1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I do remember to press record. Okay, let me confirm that. Okay, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what it's recording in your 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: live right now? Check one, two three. You sound amazing, 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: dear good, you're doing amazing speedie. Um, hey Chip, how's 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: it going. What was your trip this weekend? It was good? Um? Yeah, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: it was a welcome sort of distraction. Okay, Oh, I 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: had some bad news last week tes, like what I 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: had to say goodbye a little one of mine. Yeah, 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: so sweet little maybe is across the Rainbow Bridge. Yeah, 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: she it was her time. So so you went to 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Palm Spring to Palm Springs for a wedding, um, and 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: actually officiated it. It was my first Oh my god, 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: so official, bro call me um. And it was so weird, 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: like I signed a I signed a marriage license. That's 15 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: how official it is. Like I had have witnesses, kind 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: of crazy. Somebody let you do that. Um. I should 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: have spelled my name wrong and be like that's not me. Um, Actually, 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: be like how much am I getting paid? Right? You're like, 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: do you know how much these autographs costs? Seriously? Have 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: you guys heard? Yeah? I should have signed it with 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: a big piece. Um. Yes, so I did that over 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: the weekend, which was amazing and fun, and then I 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: went to the Grammy's on Sunday. That's always fun to me. Yeah, 24 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: it's more fun on television than I think it is 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: in the room. Really, Oh you went? Where? Did you 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: tell us what you did? So my client Jesse was 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: nominated for an award that isn't televised, and they call 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: that the premier ceremonies that starts, and so I was 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: there for four hours and then there's like an hour 30 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: in between that you have to move over to the 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: actual arena and they went everyone in their seats before 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: the show starts at five. Yeah, and but like none 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: of the very few concession stands were open, very few 34 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: bars were open, and they were closing them all at four. 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: So there's these massive lines. It's chaos, and you're like, 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: we're all famished. We've been sitting in this like dark theater, 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, listening to a hundred Hers was the like 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: fourth to last award given out, So we're there the 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: whole time, and she was on the carpet for some 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: of it, but I was in there, um, and I 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: mean I did get to see Viola Davis Getter. You goot, 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: I saw her win that. I mean, so there were 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: like some awesome moments that I got to see, but 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: still like I was a little hungover, maybe still drunk 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: when I got there, and um so made for a 46 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: really long day. And you know that you have to 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: remember for an award show, like it's being shot for television, 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: it's it matters more about how it appears on TV 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: than it does in the room. And I bought a 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: cheap seat, so it's my fault. But um I was 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: like to the side. So it's like when Stevie Wonder 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: was on stage, I couldn't even see him because he 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: was set back. Yeah, you're not the first person I'm 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: about to get canceled. It's just like it was right there, 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: literally just and I don't know why I keep using 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: him as an example because because everyone's going to make 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: that right until Harry like came out and was like 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: moving a lot, like I couldn't see him either, So 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: it's just like then I'm just like, this fucking sucks. 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: But I was also like, I mean, it's pretty cool 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: to be there, you know. I just don't know that 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: I will ever do it the way that I did 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: at this time. Again, you know. You know it's like, look, 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: I cannot like like overstate the fact that how like 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: lucky I you know, there's like millions of people that 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: died to be in that room. So I don't want 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: to sound like a little bit, but like it was. Um, 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: it was you know, like I guess too. In my mind, 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I like build we all probably have built it up 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: to be this thing. And suddenly I'm sitting there thinking 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: like I had to be, you know. So it's like 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I get to be and I'm gonna I'm gonna change 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: the framework. I got to be there. People would die 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: to go to the Grammys. It's amazing. Yeah. And the 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: thing is is, like the younger, there have definitely been 76 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: versions of me that like would not have complained. I 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: was just exhausted one who officiated a wedding, right, Yeah, 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Like I was just like tired. Um and the last 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to do something to go to after 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: parties after and I had, so all of that was 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: in my mind. I was hungry. I was tired, hungry, angry, lonely, 82 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: tired man. Yeah, but how was your weekend? My weekend 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: was much less eventful than that. Um, I didn't do 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: much to hung out with friends Friday night. I told 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: you earlier. I went to brain therapy today, which I 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: keep talking about, and I've heard I've gotten a couple 87 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: of messages from you guys that a couple of you 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: are going and it's helping as well, which is so exciting. Um. 89 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: But if you didn't hear the podcast I talked about this, 90 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing this new come it's not new, it's 91 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: new to me. Um. It's called brain that called brain therapy, 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: but it's lens therapy, it's neurofeedback, and so it's basically 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: like helping your brain get back on its narrow pathways 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: if it's gotten off, which I was affected from some 95 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: traumatic things that happened the last couple of years, but 96 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: also COVID, So if you've had COVID multiple times and 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: you're still feeling stuck in that brain fog, this has 98 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: been so helpful to me. So today I went, which 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: the days I go, I am like kind of out 100 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: of it and tired, because it's basically, like she describes 101 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: it to me as like if you go and do 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: a really really hard workout, how you're just immediately your 103 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: muscles are tired. Yeah, and so that's what it is. 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: Like I immediately felt tired after this one, but we 105 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: did it was my fourth session, and so we did 106 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: a check of like my map, and it's so vastly different, 107 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: like my brain is firing in all these new ways 108 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: or back to the ways it was before this and 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: opening up again, um coming back away like so many 110 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: things have gotten better. It's a She was like, this 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: is actually like major, major growth, and like like a 112 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: lot more than I've seen a lot of adults, because 113 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: kids brains kind of bounced back easier, but for a 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: old sometimes it can be harder. And my brain is 115 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: like responding really really well, are you feeling that? Yes, 116 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: it seems like it could also be something where it's 117 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: like screens like this is working, keep coming right and 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: you're like what no, But like literally when I sat 119 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: down today, she was like, how are you feeling? And 120 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I honestly feel the difference. Like it's 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: not to where um I feel fully back to normal, 122 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: But basically it's like I feel like I've been walking 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: around with a cloud over my head and just like 124 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: in fog, I can't think of ideas. Words have been hard. 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, I told you all that stuff, and sometimes 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: speaking even on this podcast has been tricky and so 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and like unmotivated, I can't keep focus. Um, just stuff 128 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: that I've not struggled with in the past. So it's 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: the way. It's a way that I knew I wasn't. 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Like I know, some people have probably dealt with a 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: d D or things like that their whole life. I haven't, 132 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: and so it was very noticeable to me. UM. But 133 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: mostly just the fogginess was the biggest has been the 134 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: biggest thing that I feel. And it's just like I 135 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: just feel like I want to wake up. I'm clear, 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and I you know, want to go do things again. 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: Or I'm like walking around and people are speaking to 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: me and it's so much easier. I'm not having to 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: really think about words. I actually am right now and 140 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: so it's reminding me of what I've felt like. But no, 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: like doing other interviews, things are just coming to my 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: head again and it's not perfect yet, but I can 143 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: definitely feel I just feel like the cloud is lifting. 144 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: That's dope. Yeah, I think honestly, if anyone has a 145 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: d h D UM, I have a friend Amy who's 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: been doing it too, and it really has helped her 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: like like really helped with can she tell a story 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: yet without it being a forty minute or Amy's on 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: the Bobby Bench Radio show a story. Yeah, that's our 150 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: other friend Amy. Now she should go anyway. So my 151 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: brain aim is if you would like to say expanding again, 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: and that brings us to our topic. I mean, you 153 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: guys know, wow, let me start over. You guys know 154 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: that our topic this month and our word this month 155 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: is expand And so we've had on a couple of 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: different guests. We have a lot of interesting guests coming up, 157 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: but we always try to find a way to tie 158 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: that into something that's happening in our culture, in our world, um, 159 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: pop culture or whatever it is. And so today we 160 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about expansion and we 161 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: had mentioned last week, I think this was last week, 162 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: about how it's very common in music when you're thinking 163 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: about someone very successful to be able to look at 164 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: their career and look at them as an expanding artist, 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: like they have to expand, they have to have expansion 166 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: in their career to be able to have longevity. It's 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: you have it's like evolve this case, um and the 168 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: great ones are really good at it. Yes, sometimes so 169 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: good at you don't even realize it's happening. I think 170 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: that there are examples of it being really abrupt and 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: we're it. Um. You know, people have a hard time 172 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: stomaching it too, you know. Um. But you know, there's 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: a handful of people that I could just list off 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: really quickly that are just like have been masters of it. Yeah. Yeah, 175 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: And I mean one that we mentioned earlier was Beyonce. 176 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: You said, I feel like we have to talk about 177 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: the fact that at the Grammy's she was awarded. She 178 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: got an award. I can't even remember what it was for, 179 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: maybe Best Pop Song or I mean she yeah, I 180 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: think that's the one. There was one that she missed. 181 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: She was like stuck in traffic and wasn't there, and 182 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: then um, she won Best Dance Recording, but that might 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: have been that's when she got it. Yeah. So anyway, 184 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: she televised that award Best Dance Recording. I think, so 185 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: they must have known she was gonna. I don't really 186 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: think the listeners actually care about the category. Only you do, 187 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: like you're like, let me relevant to what she said. 188 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're talking about thinking the queer audience. She said, 189 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: you invented the genre. Yeah, it was something to do 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: with electronic or dance or something that like, and that 191 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: is true. I do feel that's true. Um, but that 192 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: put her into the like she won enough awards at 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: that point to make history as the most awarded artist 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: at the Grammy's ever of all time. And she is like, alright, 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: it's wild. She'sn't even done yet, and she's that she's 196 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: there already. She is an example to me of an 197 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: artist who has done it very naturally and gradually. I 198 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: feel like we've gone with her on her life journey 199 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: of evolution. Would you say that? Yeah? Yeah, And it's 200 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: funny too because I think the fact that she like 201 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: she can say that, like, I mean, there is a 202 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: laundry list of artists that are massive and you know, 203 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: aren't even together anymore or dead like Led Zeppelin. I 204 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: don't think they've ever won a Grammy and if they have, 205 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: they it's one and it was on some reissue like 206 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: long form video thing and it happened within the last 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: ten years. And like, when you think about the legacy 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: even act like that, it's been forever. And then someone 209 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: who's her age to be the most awarded its showed 210 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: like you have to constantly evolve and grow and change 211 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: because at a certain point people think that what you're 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: doing is stale and they don't look at it anymore. Yeah, 213 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I read. I don't think Bjork has ever She's like 214 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: been nominated fourteen times. York's never won an awards that. 215 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: I think he's been nominated fourteen times. That's funny for Grammys. Yeah, 216 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: he's like asked me how many of one? But um, yeah, 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's really interesting. Like a BuzzFeed 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: did an article the other day, um that showed photos 219 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: of like artists first time at the Grammys and their 220 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: most recent look. It was really interesting to see. I 221 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: mean a lot of it was like, um really kind 222 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: of had to do with the times, but it was 223 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: like seeing a little baby Beyonce there with like Destiny 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: my God back in the All those styles are back 225 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: in though. I mean, like some of the stuff look realtated. 226 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: But you had Smokey Robinson that his first one and 227 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: then the one today. I don't know that all of 228 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: them were accurate because the Madonna first one was definitely 229 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: not the first time Madonna was at the Grammys. Like 230 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: it was like she had black hair at the time, 231 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: like pin straight black hair, and one that's not right. 232 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: But anyway. Um. She's another example of some of the 233 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: involves like, well you mentioned you're saying Madonna. You're like 234 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: trying to see me up. Sorry, I'm like, oh, that 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: was a t bird segue, got it? I see what 236 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: you did there. It takes me a second. Um, well 237 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned her twice, and so I was kind of 238 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: just waiting for you to finish that rant. So I'm 239 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: gonna go back to the first one. So maybe I 240 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: didn't out. Sorry. Um, it's like reversal right now, that's 241 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: like no, literally, but it's usually me on this tangent 242 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: like monologueing and ships like wait, what did you say? 243 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: She's like I know, no, so Madonna is where we 244 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: wanted to go next, because I actually mentioned her as 245 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: the person it's like to reference for longevity in a career. 246 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: She's completely evolved over and over. She's reinvented herself. But 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: I think that what you said is so true. It's 248 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: in a way that still feels on brand for her. Um. 249 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: But she's gotten a lot of ship for how she 250 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: looked at the Grammy's and it has sparked a big controversy. Well, 251 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like controversial to other people 252 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: besides Madonna. But she's pissed because she's like, this is 253 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: about age ism and people are attacking her for all 254 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: the plastic surgery she's had, and um, she did look 255 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: drastically probably different to me. I've seen her recently, so 256 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: I knew that, like she had done it, but maybe 257 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: some people haven't. She hasn't to me, done a lot 258 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: of TV stuff and said the Grammys was like her 259 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: big debut. Yeah. I mean it's millions of people are 260 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: watching it, and because people aren't on TikTok wright Instagram, 261 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: they're not seeing it. I mean, look, she's been she's 262 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: been doing cosmetic stuff for years. Um, so it wasn't 263 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: a surprise to me. I mean, I think it's really 264 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: important to remember this woman is sixty four years old 265 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: and still incredibly relevant in the pop space. There aren't 266 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: many people that can say that. I mean, she's just 267 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: announced her fourtie anniversary tour. It's like Paris sold out 268 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: in three minutes, you know, to shows. What's comical to me, 269 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I said this to you earlier, but so she posted 270 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: she posted on Twitter, I'm gonna read her actual tweet. Um, 271 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: she said, the world is threatened. Oh why did it 272 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: just pop away? The world is threatened a boy, my 273 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: power and my stament, stamina, my intelligence, and my will 274 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: to survive, but they will never break me. This is 275 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: all a test. And she posted this like picture of 276 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: her looking kind of like a little I was gonna 277 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: say aggresive but like a warrior. Um. But it's in 278 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: response to people's feedback about how shitty she looked or like, wow, 279 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: she looks terrible, And then people are commenting to that. 280 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, people on Twitter, Twitter is 281 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: it really is? Twitter should be canceled, um. But they're like, 282 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: why are you trying to still be irrelevant? You're just 283 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: mad at you're not You're not relevant anymore that no 284 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: one cares, blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, 285 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: you're proving that you care first of all by responding 286 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: and making this following her. But also, Madonna can't ever 287 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: be irrelevant in my opinion, She's sucking Madonna. It's like 288 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson can't be irrelevant, like exactly. Even people like 289 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian are now in history as a like they 290 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: will always be there, so like they're not going to 291 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: be irrelevant because they were relevant to changes in our 292 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: culture and our society in our world at certain times, 293 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: so they're just relevant period. I think people are trying 294 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to say, like now it's time to like go away, 295 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: but like why, well, you know, I think I think 296 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: something that drives it is people like it's what's interesting 297 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: is it? Like clearly people got under her skin a 298 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that is a lot of 299 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: people's emma on Twitter. It's just to get some sort 300 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: of response from a celebrity, Like that's all they're trying 301 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: to do, and so they've seen that she's responded. But 302 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: I think she responded in a pretty fierce way. I mean, 303 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that it didn't bother her at 304 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: all because she did respond. But I also think too, 305 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: it's like Madonna has always been that person that has 306 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: had to trailblaze, and without making the response that she did, 307 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have been trailblazing because she's basically saying fuck you. Well, 308 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that's not gonna let you. I've I'm used 309 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to this, keep it coming because as long as my 310 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: name is coming out of your mouth. I mean, she 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: did put out a tweet that's like, this is nothing new. 312 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: The media has always criticized me, um, and I've always 313 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, I've always just kept doing me. But I 314 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: think it's sad that because you're you just said something 315 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: about um, it obviously got under her skin. This goes 316 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: back to the point that I make all the time, 317 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this so many times on this podcast, 318 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: but like when we try to put celebrities in a 319 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: category of not being human, it is so fucking frustrating 320 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: to me. It's like, of course it bothers her. And 321 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: as a woman who is getting older, like I'm starting 322 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: to notice these things in myself that like I think, 323 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, I've always cared about the way I look, 324 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: but there is something that feels very different about this decade, 325 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: Like going into forties decade is very empowering in a 326 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And then it's also like this grieving 327 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: process at the same time of like I really can't 328 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: do certain things that I used to do. I won't 329 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: no matter how much I work out, I won't look 330 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: like I did it thirty. Like my body doesn't bounce 331 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: back the same way. I still feel like I look great, 332 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: but it's just like these weird things that you're used 333 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: to that you just have to start like this slow, 334 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: letting go process. And I imagine that that just gets 335 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: harder in some ways. I mean, how many times have 336 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: you heard someone say like, you are so pretty for 337 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: a fact girl or ready for an older woman, or 338 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: it's like why can't it why does it have to 339 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: have like be qualified in that way, because it's pointing 340 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: out like it's making it sound like it's rare or 341 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. People say to me all the time, 342 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: you look so good for forty and I'm like, but 343 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: is that a compliment? Right? I can't Why can't I 344 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: just look good? Right? Well, I mean because I get 345 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: all the time like people can't. Like I'm like, I'm 346 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: forty seven and they're like one, And I feel like 347 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: that's different than being like, you look good for thirties 348 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: forty seven. There's something a little different. But like I 349 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: had no idea you were that age. Yeah, But like 350 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the point Madonna is making too. 351 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, in some a different realm, but we want 352 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: to talk about ages in a little bit our our culture, 353 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: like specifically America does have this big stigma around getting 354 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: older and like what older should look like, what it 355 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: shouldn't look like, Like Norma Comali said to me, Um, 356 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: when I said, I said something to her about like 357 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: your seventy four or something like, she she does look amazing, 358 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: And in my head I did the thing where I 359 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: was like four seventy four, but like she really actually 360 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: looks fucking amazing period. But she goes, people always say 361 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: to me, you don't look like you're seventy four, and 362 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: she goes, yes, I do. This is what seventy four 363 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: can look like. Like. We have to reframe that statement, 364 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: because I do think people mean it as a compliment, 365 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: but in this other way it ends up being a 366 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: jab because it reminds you, like, but like you don't 367 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: look good for thirty or something like, or thirty old 368 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: looks way better than you, Like you look good for forty, 369 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: but that girl looks better because she's younger. And it 370 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: doesn't let us just be our age and feel beautiful 371 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: like in any capacity. Right, Yeah, no, that makes it 372 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, And it's a lot of 373 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: just programming, you know, right, And I do as much 374 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: as like I hate to be like women versus men 375 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: on this one. It's way harder on women of it, 376 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: Like everything is well, thank you when you say that, 377 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: because you're a gay man though when you see it, 378 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: I know, um yeah, But like the looks thing and 379 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: the getting older, like and first of all, why is 380 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: it fucking fair that men look good when they get me? What? 381 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if Brad Pitt looks pretty damn good, 382 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: there's I mean, so so does Meryl Streep Right, you 383 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Age differently well, and we have 384 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: been conditioned to think that older aged men because sexosticated 385 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: in Silver Fox, right, Like if you're a woman and 386 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten the facelift and your tips done and 387 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: all the things, and to like and dress like a 388 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: cougar and I do. It's like, hell, Maren looks fucking 389 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so weird. You mentioned her. I've 390 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: been watching this Masterclass. I've been really obsessed with Masterclass. 391 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: Does anyone do this? And I just love her? So 392 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I started watching hers on acting because I find her 393 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: so fashion, She's beautiful hot. I had no idea, like, 394 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: I just never like because I'm staring at her in 395 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: this um like tutorial. Basically she's basically just her monologuing 396 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the whole time. She's so wise and like calm, and 397 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: she is hot because she's very competent in her own 398 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: that is what's beautiful. Like I feel like European cultures 399 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: really kind of embrace that more and I'm hoping we 400 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: get there. It's sad a little bit to me because 401 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I do think Madonna is bothered and the story I 402 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: make up around all the work she's had done is 403 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: trying to stay youthful and so and like that's something 404 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: that it is hard to let go of what you 405 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: used to look like, Yeah, I'm no, I'm I'm looking 406 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: tell you just snap me. I know I'm looking at there. No, 407 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: there's a I've got the Madonna's Instagram thing pulled up 408 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: and it's like looping and I'm just kind of looking 409 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: at her. And you know, what's what's interesting is like, 410 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: I mean we touched on this before a little bit, 411 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: like you know, Madonna, Um, you know, it's no, it's 412 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: no surprise to me that like she is going, Like 413 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: I think the worst part of it all. The thing 414 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: that like doesn't sit well with me is I'm used 415 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: to Madonna setting trends and this to me feels like 416 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: it's Madonna trying to fit in. I don't like because 417 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: to me, Madonna not having plastic surgery and being like 418 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm fucking hot and beautiful is the Madonna that I want. Well, 419 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: she's like all Cabbala doing yoga, like like she really 420 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: beautifully in that moment, and now this is that. But 421 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: at the same time, if this is what makes her 422 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: feel hot, she shouldn't do it. Yeah, I'll see that 423 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: point though. That's a really good point that you make, 424 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of her stuff is like accept me 425 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: for who I am, and like this almost puts her 426 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: more in a category of being like everyone else. Yeah. 427 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't think she's intending that. I think she's probably 428 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: just insecure. Right. Well, I you know, there was um. 429 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: I first saw it on Fox News, But I'm gonna 430 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: correct myself and not quote Fox News because actually an 431 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: op ed an opinion of the New York Times. So 432 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: there was an opinion piece in The New York Times 433 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: written by a woman named an author, a novelist named 434 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Um Jennifer Winner, and she points out the um. She 435 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: said that, UM, sorry, I wasn't prepared. Um. She compares 436 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: it to Michael Jackson, and she says, it's possible that 437 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Anna has been so blinkered by her fame and wealth 438 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: that she's lost the ability to see herself objectively, like 439 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson pursuing an everything he knows or Jocelyn Wildenstein 440 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: doing whatever it was that she was doing. And if 441 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: you don't know who Joscelyn Wildenstein was, she was trying 442 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: to look like a cat and kept getting a ton 443 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: of plastic surgery. She's just a really rich woman in 444 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: New York City. And then she continues, she says, yes, 445 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: but whatever her intentions, the stupid superstars got us talking 446 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: about how looks are subjective and how ageism is pervasive. 447 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: In the end, whether she meant to make a statement 448 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: or just look younger, better, refreshed, almost doesn't matter. If 449 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: beauty is a construct, Madonna is the one who's put 450 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: the scaffolding on display. I mean, so there in lies 451 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: the Madonna part of it. But I do have like 452 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she looks bad. It just 453 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: makes me sad that she doesn't feel like she can 454 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: age beautifully. So um and she doesn't she looks different. 455 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think the meanness of Twitter 456 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: like people want to be funny, like I read or 457 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: really mean when I laughed out loud and and I 458 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: didn't agree with it. I just thought it was really 459 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: cleverly written. Um. And I think a lot of people 460 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter go for that, like they are looking for 461 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: the share, they're looking for the like they're looking and 462 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: they're not like, I mean, it is mean, but I 463 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessarily the intention. Um, they just 464 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: forget that, like there's a real person on the other 465 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: side that's receiving this energy. Um. But um, you know, 466 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: I think that the nicer way to be, the nicer 467 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: way to have like pointed out that she looks different, 468 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: is to say that, like, wow, she looks different, Like 469 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: your face is awful, right. I mean I think it 470 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: is hard because you know, we all have it's it's 471 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: shocking when you see her because she used to be 472 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: this very thin velt. Um. Yeah, Like I just think 473 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: of Yogi when I think of her. And now she's 474 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: gotten it looks like to me, the butt implant thing, 475 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: she's gotten boobs. Um, she's gotten that boogle fat whatever 476 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: that thing is on your jaw that people are getting. 477 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't I have not seen one person that I 478 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: think that looks good on too. I don't really get it, 479 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: but but it's hard because like she looks like a 480 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: completely different person, and like it does magnify all these 481 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: crazy surgeries that are happening right now. The weird thing 482 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: is is actually keep reading that they're going out of trend, 483 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: so it's so wild. We like you can, I mean, 484 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: you can reverse a lot of them, but not all 485 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: of them. But what happens when it's not trendy anymore 486 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: to look like the Kardashians, you know, like it really 487 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: does go to show we really all are unique, and 488 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: really the best and most beautiful way to be is 489 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: to really lean into who you are. But it's hard, man. 490 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I've thought about getting my boobs one eight 491 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: hundred million times because I have tiny, little boobs. But 492 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: every time I get back to and I'm like, that 493 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: would be the most not kelly thing to do ever. 494 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: I would die if you walked in here with big 495 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: old What if I walks in with big boobs in 496 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: a big butt? You would be like what I would 497 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: look so, but if it made you feel good, I 498 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: would compliment, Thank you, I appreciate that, And that means 499 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: you're good. But it's like, at the end of the day, 500 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: probably probably the way that I'll end up feeling the 501 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: most beautiful is to accept all of me. You know, 502 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: I think that is true, and that's an energy that 503 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: you radiate in the days where I'm doing that. I mean, 504 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: it's wild. You can tell people gravitate towards that, not 505 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: like you're not even doing intentionally, but it's just like 506 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: when you accept yourself, that is where true beauty comes from. 507 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: But it's hard, and especially when you're out in the 508 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: public eye, it's so hard when all these eyes are 509 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: on you. This is perfect point people are annihilating her. 510 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Could you imagine like reading how ugly you are over 511 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over, and you're 512 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: just sitting there looking like that, And the irony is 513 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: that she was there. She chose she was supposed to 514 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: do the Our Album of the Year Award, but then 515 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: chose to do this particular announced like introduced Kim Petris 516 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and Sam Smith because she thought it was really important 517 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: to highlight Kim Petris, who was a trans artist who 518 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: was performing on the Grammys and then ultimately was the 519 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: first trans woman to ever win a Grammy and um 520 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: so she thought that she was empowering someone who had 521 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: evolved to be themselves, who had expanded to be themselves, 522 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: and then she gets annihilated. And her speech before was 523 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: I loved it. It was all about pushing boundaries and 524 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: leaning into like being different and you are being the 525 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: trail blazer and says she was like encouraging anyone who 526 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: feels alone and isolated in their journey to keep going. 527 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, it was actually a beautiful speech. It sucks 528 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: that all of that has gotten lost. On what Madonna's 529 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: plastic surgery looks like, well, I referenced earlier, like there 530 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: are people that have evolved that like you kind of 531 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: just like feel it like Madonna and be On say 532 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and like they've done it are very artfully. It was 533 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: kind of a reference to Sam Smith because he's also 534 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of being annihilated because because of his weight and 535 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: his most recent music video and then his performance are 536 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: calling it satanic, and like, you know, I think that 537 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: like the world fell in love with this version of 538 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Sam Smith and now they're like change, we don't want 539 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: this version of Sam Smith. That's so interesting. I interpreted 540 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: that to be like they the way that maybe correct 541 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, but gay people or trans people 542 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: feel is that they are demonized in this world, and 543 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: so they're like that was how I interpreted the performance 544 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: was just like the religious right or like this is 545 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Satan on television, like this is this is And the 546 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: funny thing is, I've seen some memes that are like, 547 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: you keep telling us that we're going to hell and 548 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: then we show you in hell and then you don't 549 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: like it. Right, we can't win, We cannot win. But 550 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: his music video is like, I mean, it's risk ay, 551 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: and you know he is now a full figured um, 552 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: he's non binary. So they I should be saying they 553 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm terrible at it, and admittedly so, but it's not 554 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: out of disrespect. I'm just bad at it. They are 555 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: non gender conforming and their clothes are risky, their nipples 556 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: are out, and I think it's really hard for people 557 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: to see them like as sexy when they're trying to 558 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: project themselves as that. And I think it goes back 559 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: to the Madonna thing. Don't worry about what other fucking 560 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: people think like you do you and as long as 561 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: you feel like you're growing and expanding, like that's what's important. 562 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Because most of the time when someone's clapping at you 563 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: in the negative way, it's because there's there's something about 564 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: you that they're jealous of, there's something about themselves that 565 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: they right. Oh always, would you ever spend time to 566 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: go nasty tweet at somebody? I could not imagine wasting 567 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: any sort of I mean, little brains, brain function. I'm 568 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: just kidding, but I just can't imagine that. And so 569 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: like that does say more about anybody that does that. Sorry, 570 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: but that says more to me, to me about you 571 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: than what you're saying to anyone else. Um, but yeah, 572 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: I do. I think it's like, I love the point 573 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: you just made about Sam Smith because it points out 574 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: that people want to keep us all as some version 575 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: of ourselves because it's what's comfortable. And like, I think 576 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: we all go through this, you know, like even there 577 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: the times where I wasn't drinking, that's like a good example. 578 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: That was what I needed to do for me, And 579 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: I think it was hard for all of us though, 580 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: because there y'all know a version of me. I knew 581 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: a version of me. We all have roles in a group, 582 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: and I think I can speak to how great of 583 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: friends I actually do have because we're still friends even 584 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: through changes like that. But it's uncomfortable, and I think 585 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: it it changes like it takes a minute. Well, I 586 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: also think too it when you watch a friend of 587 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: yours evolved actively evolving, it opens up questions that you're 588 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: not ready to ask yourself sometime, you know, like well 589 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: should I not be drinking? And the truth is is 590 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: like it's important to worry about yourself because if you 591 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: can say I'm comfortable with how much I drink, then 592 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: Kelly not drinking has nothing to do with how much 593 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: I drink or don't drink. You know. It's it's about 594 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: like I have to recognize that Kelly loves this version 595 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: of me and that's all that matters. And I love 596 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: the version of Kelly that she loves the most all 597 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: of the things. So I mean it's I think what 598 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: this whole conversation boils down to is is like fucking 599 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: back off of other people. Look in the mirror, if 600 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: if if you're too worried about someone else's change, then 601 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: it's time to look at yourself and figure out what 602 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: you need to change about yourself. Yeah, I think I 603 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: can say for me, the times where I have not 604 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: wanted to let go of old versions of people in 605 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: my life. It was because it was from a good 606 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: place of like I was having so much fun or 607 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: loved them so much, and like the fear of change 608 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: came because it was like, wait, but if they don't 609 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: act like this anymore, if they um stop drinking or 610 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: they do whatever, ye or our relationship will change or 611 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: times will change. And the truth is is they probably will. 612 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: They're going to anywhere. But it would be unhealthy for 613 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: us exactly to stay exactly the same as we are 614 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: that we were at twenty five. Like if I'm at 615 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: forty and I'm acting like I was at five, that's 616 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: a bigger problem. And if I'm act actively like evolving 617 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: and changing and growing and hopefully my friendships go with me, 618 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: and you always know, I think your true friendships because 619 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: then just like I think this is marriage as in relationships, 620 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: like you can do that with the people not easily 621 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: all the time, but you get there eventually. And that 622 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: was my experience was like, and that's the situation that's 623 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: probably the most recent for me, but that's that was 624 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the experience of everyone kind of would have moments, even 625 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: including me. We would all have these like buck back 626 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: moments are like snarky comments or like uncomfortable moment awkwardness. 627 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Nobody knew how to deal with certain things. But then 628 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: it was like, all right, we all settled in. It's fine. 629 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: It's just like and I love you, and you know 630 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: I love you, and here we are and I'm happy 631 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: for you and that's it, and that's a real relationship. 632 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: I had a friend that had a traumatic brain injury, 633 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: and he used to always say, like, I just want 634 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: my life to be like it was that day before 635 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: the accident, and we'd said to him, Billy, none of 636 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: our lives are the same. No, none of ours lives 637 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: are like that. Like granted, yours was sort of forced 638 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: the change was forced up on you. Um, so you know, 639 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: it's just that I wanted to put that example, like 640 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: sometimes change is forced upon us that we have to 641 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: accept too and figure out the way that that we're 642 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: going to move forward. But I think it's important to 643 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: recognize that we're all growing and evolving and changing every day. 644 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: All the time people get in relationships and ship changes, 645 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: Like it's just like there's all sorts of things. But yeah, 646 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: so I don't know about what Madonna has done to 647 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: her body or what she hasn't done or whatever. But 648 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: as like you said, as long as she feels good 649 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: about herself, I think that's what's important. And um expansion 650 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: is an interesting one because I think it's constantly like, 651 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 1: if you're not expanding, what are you doing? Right? Right? Literally? Yea? 652 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: So well, good on you, Madonna, I guess. I mean, 653 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to feel about it. In 654 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: some ways, it makes me really sad if I'm being honest, 655 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: and then in other ways I'm like, but I want 656 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: to support her too, so and I think her argument 657 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: about ages um really does hit home for me because 658 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's an interesting thing to realize 659 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: or to feel like you're becoming a relevant just when 660 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: I actually feel like I'm just hitting my stride in 661 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: my life in a lot of ways, and then in 662 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of ways almost becoming irrelevant. It's really bizarre 663 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: because of the way you look, and it's like, but like, 664 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: on the inside, I'm wiser than I've ever been, you know, 665 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: better than I've ever been. And I think it's like 666 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: you'll find other ways to feel validated to, you know, 667 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: and I hope beautiful and beautiful. I just don't want 668 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: to I don't want to do that to myself or 669 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: any other women around me, so or people anyone. All Right, 670 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: you guys, that was a little all over the place, 671 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: but it was like my brain therapy got and I 672 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: don't need to record when we do that. It was 673 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of the only option this week. But what were 674 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: you going to say? I was just no, I was 675 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna say. It was fine. I feel like we made 676 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: a good point. I hope. So you guys let us know, 677 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: you know whatever. I guess email us at the edge 678 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: at well, I was just about to say, unless it's 679 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: me and then keep it to yourself. Um, you can 680 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: always email us at the Edge at velvet edge dot com. 681 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: You can hit me up on Instagram at Velvet's Edge. 682 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: Chip at chip door should hp P D O R 683 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: S H. And as you're going into the weekends and 684 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: you're living on the edge, I'm going to try to 685 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: get some sleep. But I hope you guys always remembered 686 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: to casual. Bye.