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Speaker 2: My brother in law's girlfriend disregarded my allergies, so I

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Speaker 2: banned her from my home. I'm disregarding you from my presence,

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Speaker 2: Lady got them now. I have a pretty severe dairy allergy.

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Speaker 2: I break out and hives, struggle to breathe, and I

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Speaker 2: have to carry two EpiPens with me everywhere. Dang. If

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Speaker 2: I get any dairy in my system, I will end

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Speaker 2: up in the emergency room. Wow, that's intense. I've never

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Speaker 2: heard of a dairy allergy so extreme me either. My

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Speaker 2: in laws know this, and I've been extremely accommodating since

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Speaker 2: my fiance and I started dating five years ago. When

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Speaker 2: we moved in together two years ago, we set strict

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Speaker 2: rules for our home because of my allergy. The big

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Speaker 2: one is that no one is allowed to bring anything

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Speaker 2: in law started dating his girlfriend a year and a

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Speaker 2: half ago. They came to visit us together for the

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Speaker 2: first time a year ago. My fiance made sure my

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Speaker 2: brother in law explained my allergy to his girlfriend and

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Speaker 2: our no dairy rule. Two days into their stay, she

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Speaker 2: bought dairy products and cooked lunch for herself. When we

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Speaker 2: weren't home, I ended up in the er because of

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Speaker 2: cross contamination. She apologized and explained she hadn't understood how

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Speaker 2: serious the allergy was. We managed to put the situation

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Speaker 2: and want to keep a good relationship with my brother

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Speaker 2: in law. The two of them came for a second

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Speaker 2: visit nine months ago. We had a video call with

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Speaker 2: make sure that they understood the severity of my allergy

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Speaker 2: and how serious we are about the no dairy rule.

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Speaker 2: During their second trip, I was taking out the trash

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Speaker 2: and I found candy bar wrappers and an empty milkshake

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Speaker 2: is and how I ended up in the er. She

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Speaker 2: brought Darry into our house. I confronted her. When they

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Speaker 2: got back, she and brother in law had a huge fight.

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Speaker 2: Brother in law went through her stuff and throughout everything

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Speaker 2: she had with therea oh, she had even more stuff. Wow,

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Speaker 2: we punched out his girlfriend. Brother in law stayed for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the plan trip. Brother in law and

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Speaker 2: his girlfriend worked out the relationship after the trip, and

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Speaker 2: they're still together. Since the second trip, brother in law

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Speaker 2: has come alone. Since I don't trust his girlfriend in

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Speaker 2: her house. Well, brother in law's planning a new trip

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Speaker 2: to visit us and his girlfriend wants to come too.

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Speaker 2: At first, we just said no, we don't trust her,

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Speaker 2: But since we know this is important to brother in law,

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Speaker 2: we came up with what we believe is a good compromise,

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Speaker 2: which is as follows. She can come and stay at

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Speaker 2: our place, but we will look through her bags every

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Speaker 2: time she comes back to our place, and if she

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Speaker 2: didn't accept that, she can stay at a hotel or

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Speaker 2: stay at home. Now I'm being called an a hole

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Speaker 2: for treating her like a c and that checking her

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Speaker 2: bag is an evasion of privacy. So am I the

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Speaker 2: a hole for demanding to go through her bag? If

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Speaker 2: she's staying at my house and there is an update,

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Speaker 2: I think that the situation is like J Cole, we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have even put this out in the first place.

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't have even laid down the offer of oh, hey,

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Speaker 2: just come over and we'll check your bag, because it

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Speaker 2: like then there then she's like offended, and it's like

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Speaker 2: putting extra work on you, and it's like all this

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Speaker 2: stuff just just just don't do it in the first place. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would just ban her.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like you literally almost he's already tried to

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Speaker 3: send me to the hospital. You send me once, try

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Speaker 3: to do it again. Yeah, I'm not. This isn't like

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Speaker 3: a three strikes you're out thing. I'm gonna do two strikes. Yep,

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Speaker 3: and then you continue to bring it into my house

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Speaker 3: after telling you once I you did, you can't come

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Speaker 2: Get out. I didn't plan on writing this update. Okay,

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Speaker 2: The issue was that, while knowing our no dairy house rule,

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Speaker 2: the update, after the first five hundred or so comments

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Speaker 2: telling me I'm an idiot for considering letting this woman

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Speaker 2: I realized I was listening way too much to the

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Speaker 2: and was downplaying the seriousness of the past incidents in

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Speaker 3: Also fair because like you're mostly concerned, you don't really

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Speaker 2: she brought Darien to my home, I was exaggerating how

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Speaker 2: He ended up texting brother in law telling him our

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Speaker 2: Turns out brother in law's girlfriend had told him that

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Speaker 2: extremely apologetic. I haven't had time to talk with him

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Speaker 2: If anyone is interested, I can post a second update

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Speaker 2: after I talk to brother in law tomorrow and hopefully

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Speaker 2: we have a final conclusion to this whole thing. And

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you freaking know it, We have another update, we

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Speaker 3: You sent me to the hospital and then you prove

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Speaker 3: that you don't really care, so you're not coming back

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Speaker 3: because I'm won't go to the hospital twice.

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Speaker 2: For you big facs, big facts. Yeah, don't don't, don't

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Speaker 2: bring her back. Yeah, And hopefully brother in law sees

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Speaker 2: we could have a breakup. I hope. So brother in

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Speaker 2: like she Sucksly won't way to find out. So I've

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Speaker 2: talked to my brother in law. We had a long

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Speaker 2: update you guys. To start. Brother in law kept apologize

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Speaker 3: that went through my heart when you said that. People

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Speaker 2: How the reason he wanted to talk with me today

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Speaker 2: After the call with my fiance, he confronted his ex

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Speaker 2: X tried to convince him that I was lying and

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Speaker 2: a lot more happened, but I won't go into detail

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Speaker 2: since it isn't my story, but it's brother in law

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Speaker 2: so thoughtful. Yes, yes, I wish you would tell us

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Speaker 2: the story though, the end result is he broke up

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Speaker 2: with her, let's go. He also told us more that

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Speaker 2: even the first time they broken up. Yes, he didn't

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Speaker 2: was just manipulation to get back together with him. More

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Speaker 2: we didn't know is also that brother in law hasn't

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Speaker 2: been happy where he currently lives for the last year

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Speaker 2: or so, and one of the reasons he often comes

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Speaker 2: to move because why is she bringing the milkshake and

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Speaker 3: All this is great. Brother in law is a sweety pie.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like you can assume that. She's like, I

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Speaker 2: It is not a leap. This is what she told

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Speaker 2: You know. The sister in law is like making it

435
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Speaker 2: like a thing where.

436
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, your husband's a predator, like, and it's like,

437
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: why are we doing this?

438
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: And then the husband's being like, well, I refuse to

439
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: go in the house. It's like, now you freaking look

440
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 2: like one. What come on, guys, get it together. My

441
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: wife wasn't again pushed the issue, and it turns out

442
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: my sister in law was never comfortable with me watching

443
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: her daughter and felt betrayed by my wife because she

444
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: changed up an arrangement that worked, and she said I

445
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: was far too eager to change my work schedule to

446
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: take over Fridays, and it came off as insistent. I

447
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: told her, yes, I was insistent because I do not

448
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: want my wife to give up an opportunity because she

449
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: felt beholden to an arrangement that she made with her. Yeah,

450
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: she it was a work thing, so like he's like, hey,

451
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Speaker 2: I want to help my wife so she can do

452
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Speaker 2: all the work stuff she needs to do. Right after

453
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: that exchange, I told my sister in law I would

454
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Speaker 2: no longer take her daughter to day care. This happened

455
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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. She took off last Friday, so long story short,

456
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: she never wanted me to watch her daughter unsupervised. Found

457
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Speaker 2: it strange how eager I was to rearrange my fridays

458
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Speaker 2: to be with my niece. My wife family is thinking

459
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Speaker 2: that I am being weird and creepy. Oh so the

460
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Speaker 2: family is agreeing with the sister in law that he's

461
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Speaker 2: like being a weirdo.

462
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Speaker 3: You look at this creepy weirdo who wants to babysit

463
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Speaker 3: his own niece.

464
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Speaker 2: E gross disgusting. I hate all of my nieces. Added

465
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Speaker 2: to the list. I hate nieces.

466
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Speaker 4: No.

467
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Speaker 2: My wife had one last final conversation with her sister

468
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Speaker 2: on Friday, and apparently it got ugly, since my sister

469
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Speaker 2: in law did call to apologize, and I did appreciate that,

470
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Speaker 2: but I told her you either trust me or you don't,

471
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Speaker 2: since she does. Since she does not, I did recommend.

472
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Speaker 2: I did recommend she finds someone that she does trust

473
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Speaker 2: so that way she can be at ease she tried

474
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Speaker 2: to give me a sob story about how we are

475
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Speaker 2: being unfair towards her. All she was trying to do

476
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: was keep her daughter safe. I told her the best

477
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: way for her to do that was to find someone

478
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Speaker 2: else who she trust to handle her to handle her fridays,

479
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: or to change her job schedule, which I mean I

480
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: think he kind of basically said like, hey, like find

481
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: someone you trust, you know, like you know, yeah, I

482
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: think that's where we're at. Yeah, yeah, and yeah. It's like,

483
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Speaker 2: all right, dude, you think I'm gonna do that.

484
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Speaker 3: I will not babysit my own niece and you can

485
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Speaker 3: hire a babysitter it was a stranger.

486
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a better solution. I was going to originally

487
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: offer as some suggestion that she brings her daughter to

488
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Speaker 2: us before she heads to work, but after that conversation,

489
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Speaker 2: I decided it was best for everyone that I took

490
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Speaker 2: a step back. I don't know what will come of

491
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Speaker 2: terms comes of this in terms of the family, since

492
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Speaker 2: most think that I'm being unreasonable, but my wife and

493
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Speaker 2: I agree that she is not comfortable. If she is

494
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Speaker 2: not comfortable with me, that it is not our duty

495
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Speaker 2: to make her comfortable. Fair enough. Thanks again. By the way,

496
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Speaker 2: you can listen to full episodes with stories exactly like

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Speaker 2: this one. If you're enjoying this right now, why are

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Speaker 2: you not going to Spotify Apple podcasts and iHeart and searching? Okay,

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Speaker 2: story time, I don't understand. Oh we have a second update.

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Speaker 2: There's actually a big, a big chunk of juice left too.

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Speaker 2: Oh how much juice? We have thirty juice left? Let's go.

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Speaker 3: I mean I know where I stand. I think everyone

503
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: knows where I stand. Yeah, we know where I think

504
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Speaker 3: we're all in.

505
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: I think yeah. Like basically insummation uh op was was

506
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: kind of you know, it's like, hey, people can have

507
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: cameras and you know, if she wants to do that,

508
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 2: then you know, let her or whatever. Don't take it

509
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: so personally. And then sister in law it's like, hey,

510
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: look like this is probably it's it's too much. You've

511
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: known him for sixteen years. I don't know if anything,

512
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: if anything, why not talk to the sister about it?

513
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: Like I don't know something like that, like if anything,

514
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't you not want to give it to sister

515
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: because you're worried that like then he's been closer to

516
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: the baby or something like that. You know, I did

517
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 2: want to point out that as many have said, yeah,

518
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: my wife is awesome. Some have asked why I'm not upset.

519
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: I am upset, but more so hurts, not just because

520
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: of what was said about me, but more so because

521
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: of the situation will forever alter relationship we have with

522
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: the family, and I know that that hurts my wife

523
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: a lot. That does suck, and that is that is unfair.

524
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: We love our niece, but I know my wife and

525
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: her have a special bond that is for godchild. So

526
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: I am more so hurt that I created a rift

527
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Speaker 2: that will probably never be mended. And we do have

528
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Speaker 2: some quick top comments OPI sauce on the aftermath of

529
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Speaker 2: the situation. I am upset, but it's being overshadowed by

530
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: the hurts. I have known such from long for sixteen

531
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Speaker 2: years and it's been a major blow to think that

532
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: she is afraid of me because I'm a guy. Compet

533
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: to Number one says, this is just so awful. I'm

534
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: sorry just to brace you. She or the extended family

535
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: might jump to the unreasonable conclusion that if you're not

536
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: willing to help out because of the cameras, then you

537
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: must have been doing something that you don't want seen

538
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: to go to this point, that's not why he doesn't

539
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: want to do this.

540
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: It's clear the reason is, yes, just because of like

541
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: the principle of the like accusation or not accusation, but

542
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: like it's like, if that's what you think of me,

543
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: I now don't feel like I don't know you.

544
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it changes the relationship forever. Yeah, then I

545
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: feel weird if you feel weird, So I don't want

546
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: to do this. Yeah. Yeah, But but to your earlier point,

547
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: it does kind of come off as like, optically can

548
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: look pretty bad. The optics are pretty bad. Be prepared

549
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: for the accusation. Explain that what changed wasn't the cameras.

550
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: It was that you learned how she sees you. You

551
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: thought she'd appreciate you in convincing and conveniencing yourself to

552
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: make her life easier, and instead she assumed horrible things

553
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: about you. You aren't interested in helping someone who doesn't

554
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: respect you, and you're not willing to risk your own safety.

555
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: If she's willing to jump to such conclusions without reasonable cause,

556
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: Opie says, they already have. That is what hurts the most.

557
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: Because this will forever altered relationship we have with their family.

558
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Speaker 2: Compet to Number two says, good for you and your wife.

559
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: She's stuck up for you and you are holding your boundaries.

560
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: This is on sister and law to fix the dynamic.

561
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: If she doesn't trust you, then you never need to

562
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: be involved with helping care for her kids. She is

563
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: an adult and can figure her crap out for herself.

564
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: And com much at. Number three says if your wife's

565
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: family thinks you're being weird and creepy, all the more

566
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: reason to avoid contact with him and then commuch and

567
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: number four says, not the ahole. She basically thinks that

568
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: you're creep but still expecting you to do her a favor.

569
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: You set up a boundary after being disrespected, and somehow

570
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: you're the weird one.

571
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 5: Nah.

572
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: If she doesn't trust you, she can find someone else

573
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: to deal with the consequences. And just to end this off,

574
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Just to close this out, ye, any quick closing thoughts on.

575
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Speaker 3: The store here, there was that line about family jumping

576
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: to conclusions and stuff.

577
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: It's like.

578
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: That feels like by clearly way overboard of what needed.

579
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: But it's like, I wonder, what else is there what

580
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: was the thing that lade her go? This guy's and

581
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't trust him, right because I'm sure there's other

582
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: men in the family that are allowed to look after

583
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: the niece.

584
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: We don't know that.

585
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, at this point, I'm almost positive because it

586
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: really feels like after everything that was said, it was

587
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: just because like, well, if you're not gonna babysit my kid,

588
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: then I am gonna have to put cameras in the

589
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: house because your husband's gonna be watching her. Yeah, And

590
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: it's like, why why are there because you never know what.

591
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Your husband might do.

592
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: And it's like, again, that's not unfair, but it's more

593
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: just like the switch up I think made the made

594
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Op just be like, well, if that's how we're rocking,

595
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: then I'm also uncomfortable because I don't want to babysit

596
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: your kid if you think I would do that.

597
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Everything just kind of fell apart there.

598
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Sure, if OP could have just and it's not always

599
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: the most reasonable thing, but if OP could have just gone,

600
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: I don't really care. Oh, you think I'm a creep,

601
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm gonna go ahead and babysit your daughter.

602
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: And now the proof that I'm not a creep will

603
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: be on camera. I guess I don't care period times.

604
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: You gotta care less. Sometimes you got it. Fortunately it's

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Speaker 2: hard to know win. That's right. Here's John you og host.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories. But he's a

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Speaker 4: My in law's took over my wedding day.

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Speaker 3: It was a disaster, a category five in law hurricane.

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Speaker 4: Before I begin, I want to note that my husband

612
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Speaker 4: and I are in therapy and actively working through everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, this is going to be rough.

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Speaker 4: All names have been changed. So my husband, Mike thirty

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Speaker 4: five male, and I thirty two female, have been together

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Speaker 4: for eight or nine years? Who's even counting anymore? How

617
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Speaker 4: do you not know how long you've been together?

618
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Speaker 3: It's eight or nine? Even what say nine?

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Speaker 4: We've got engaged in November twenty twenty. I was really

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Speaker 4: excited to start planning, hoping we could have a proper

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625
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Speaker 4: my mom suddenly passed away from sepsis. Oh, obviously I

626
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Speaker 4: wasn't in the headspace to plan a wedding. After that,

627
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: we put things on pause. In twenty twenty two, my

628
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 4: dad revealed that his persistent cough and swallowing issues weren't

629
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Speaker 4: from a hernia as he thought. It was stage four cancer.

630
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: He had six months to two years to live. Oh

631
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 4: my god, that is a tough year. After two rounds

632
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: of chemo, we were told it was in remission for

633
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: now it would likely return. Mike, trying to help starting

634
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Speaker 4: planning a started planning a small wedding. He's European and

635
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: comes from a large, complicated family. His parents are divorced.

636
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: His dad, father in law, has had two other partners,

637
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Speaker 4: with whom he has three more kids, age seventeen, nineteen,

638
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Speaker 4: and twenty one, and is now with a new girlfriend

639
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Speaker 4: who has a twenty two two year old daughter. At

640
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: the time, I was finishing a degree and planning to

641
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Speaker 4: graduate in June, so a big, expensive wedding wasn't feasible.

642
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: Mike's parents invited us over to discuss things. Father in

643
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: law asked if I was pregnant and I explained about

644
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Speaker 4: my dad. They offered to help us with the small wedding.

645
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Speaker 4: That's when things went off the rails. I mean, just

646
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Speaker 4: the fact that he was like, oh, are you pregnant?

647
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Speaker 2: Didn't bow well, yeah, not a good sign.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it started reasonably well. Mike's parents reached out to

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Speaker 4: a European restaurant in Toronto that they had used for

650
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: past family events. We picked a date. No one objected,

651
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: but Mike and I didn't even know as dad had

652
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: a new partner, much less that she'd been that she'd

653
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: be involved. As we began planning, the guest list ballooned.

654
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: I had maybe ten people. Mike's extended family list was

655
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: forty five plus. Then father in law added more, including

656
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: his new girlfriend who happened to be a friend of

657
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: his ex, the mother of his three kids. Awkward. Our

658
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: small wedding of fifty turned into over one hundred people.

659
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: I was juggling work, school, and planning. Mike was helpful ish,

660
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: mostly just followed instructions. My amazing mother in law planned

661
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: a Jack and Jill instead of a shower, and I

662
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: was genuinely touched. My family hadn't met Mike's family yet,

663
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 4: so this was special. I had five best friends as

664
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: bridesmaids and one extra as my something blue. I posted

665
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: on our wedding site asking guests not to wear blue

666
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: for this reason. Then things got messy with one bridesmaid, Chloe.

667
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: She subtly trashed every dress I liked, even facetimed her

668
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: mom from the store to show a dress I loved

669
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: and said she doesn't have a mom.

670
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: So, girl, that's your bridesmaid. I'd she'd be catching a

671
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: ride home in a cab after her tires are mysteriously slashed.

672
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm just joking.

673
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just really in front of everyone. She's no

674
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: longer your bridesmaid.

675
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Right right? No, definitely not chevy.

676
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: Thought of you for not having a mom. I made

677
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: another appointment at a different boutique without her and found

678
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: my dress surprise. She hated it. I think she just

679
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: hates you girl. Later, at a brunch dress shopping day,

680
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: Chloe arrived an hour late, got mad that we ordered food,

681
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: and threw a tantrum at the salon. I called her

682
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: later to ask what was going on. She demanded I

683
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: come to her to apologize. I uninvited her that night.

684
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: The week of the wedding, everything went wrong. The restaurant

685
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: demanded payment before the wedding, despite earlier assurances that father

686
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: in law would cover it. The night of the wedding,

687
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: our DJ forgot he was supposed to EMC. The church

688
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: had no ac despite telling us it would, and suggested

689
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: we bringing fans. Forty eight hours before the wedding, I

690
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: was with mother in law and my maid of honor

691
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: doing last minute eron's when father in law's ex Grace called.

692
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 4: She said she was an invited but wanted to attend

693
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: the ceremony only to support Mike. I said fine, but

694
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: to check with father in law and avoid drama. Then

695
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: the venue called to say we couldn't set up the

696
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: night before due to a double booking. This venue seems

697
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: like it's terrible. We had to create a new seating

698
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: chart overnight for someone else to do the setup. I

699
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: was running on fumes, having only taken two days off

700
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: of work. Twenty four hours before. I was picking up

701
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: flowers when father in law called me screaming about Grace

702
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 4: being invited. I explained, but he was furious. I texted

703
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: Grace to ask her not to come, it was too stressful.

704
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: She called me back twisting the situation. Meanwhile, I was

705
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: unloading supplies and completely broke down. I was crying on

706
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: the phone in public. The venue also added last minute fees?

707
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 4: What is this venue?

708
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: The worst venue ever?

709
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: Wedding day bridesmade late fine whatever. The makeup artist was late,

710
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: all good, cool as a cucumber, rushed to finish on time. Well,

711
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: they get this is normal, right, Mike texts, don't leave

712
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: me hanging cute, But his dad, new girlfriend, Karen, her

713
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 4: daughter Kate twenty two, and Mike's brothers decided to stop

714
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: for McDonald's on the way. They arrived at the same

715
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: time as me, nearly seeing each other. Before the aisle.

716
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: In the bridal suite, my dad and grandma visited. Then

717
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: Karen and Kate arrived, both wearing blue. Kate was in

718
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: a tight, uncomfortable blue dress and said I could hear

719
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: something blue too, like for some people. I'm sure it'd

720
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: be fine, but Opie explicitly said don't wear blue. I

721
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: had someone discreetly usher her out. She tried to insert

722
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: herself into photos with my dad. A bridesmaid had to

723
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: distract her. Meanwhile, Karen and father in law were taking

724
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: ridiculous prom style pics Hey reception, Mike and I noticed

725
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: Kate and Mike's twenty one year old brother, Martin were

726
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: visiting every table, including my friends and family. Martin was

727
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: introducing Kate as my stepsisy in law. They were way

728
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 4: too close. We saw whispering, handholding, and let's just say

729
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: it escalated. Guests asked about it. Karen was seen giving

730
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: Kate a scolding. My maid of honor had to leave

731
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 4: early due to an injury, and my other friends left

732
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 4: soon after.

733
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: He's just bad Omen. After bad Omen.

734
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: I feel like you're not meant to get married, or at.

735
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Least not married today. Yeah day.

736
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: I was cleaning their table when Kate screamed across the room.

737
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 4: Mart's telling everyone about my spicy related experiences.

738
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Oho.

739
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: I snapped. I told them I had photos. Guess we're

740
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: talking and they needed a stop.

741
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: I was done.

742
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: Later, I was in the bathroom removing my section bra

743
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: with the help of my teen sister in law. Guests

744
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 4: were gossiping in the bathroom when I came out. Most

745
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 4: had left, only to find my father in law stripping

746
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: in the middle of the venue. Aaron was cheering him

747
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: on while he lap danced. His best friend okay. I

748
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: was mortified. I just wanted to leave. Mike was already

749
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: cleaning up. I asked him to call an uber and

750
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: Karen said, oh, you'll come with eth. She was sober driving.

751
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: So all that chaos sanctioned yankes the day.

752
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: After, see this is why you have the secret wedding folks.

753
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: Martin and Kate texted early asking what proof I had

754
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: proof of what I sent a photo. Martin said it

755
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: was messed up that my friends were taking pics of

756
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: them and having fun. That afternoon, we went to my

757
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: dad's for a post wedding lunch. He wasn't eating after

758
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: a cough. There was blood on his napkin. No, you

759
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: can't catch a break. The kidser was back. They weren't

760
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: giving a timeline, just hopeful. Months later, in September, I

761
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: visited my dad and he and his girlfriend told me

762
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: the truth. They told me I had three to six

763
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: months as in the data saying this he's known as

764
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: July mid December, he was hospitalized. I became his full

765
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: time caregiver with his girlfriend. We barely slept, barely eight

766
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: just try to make him comfortable. On January thirteenth, twenty

767
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: twenty five, at eight thirty am, my dad passed away.

768
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 4: When our wedding photos arrived, I was devastated all over again.

769
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 4: Out of thirteen hundred photos, over three hundred featured Kate

770
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: or Karen prominently, Some were only of them. Most of

771
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: the rest were Mike's family dancing, barely any of my

772
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: own friends or special moments. I am so angry that

773
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 4: my only wedding was hijacked. Even if I divorce and remarry,

774
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: it'll never be the same. My dad won't be there.

775
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh.

776
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: Mike privately acknowledges the damage, but he never confronted his

777
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 4: dad or siblings. I'm just desperate for someone to understand

778
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: my wedding wasn't just chaotic. It was taken away from me.

779
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: And I'll never get that dad that day back. By

780
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: the way, you can get us back if you listen

781
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: to more full episodes of stories just like this. Just

782
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 4: go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search a

783
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: poky story time.

784
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: And to be fair, they're not just like this, because

785
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: this is maybe the rawest roughest hand I've ever seen

786
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: dealt to a single person in Austry.

787
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: I think you've been like cursed read this is that

788
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: was so bad, like not only like you have you

789
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: add you know, a loss of a family member, your dad,

790
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: but also just like chaotically bad wedding, just insanely bad wedding,

791
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 4: and your rasband still isn't doing anything.

792
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: Clearly after we've you know, at the beginning of the story,

793
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: we heard, Hey, we're getting therapy, we're still together, We're

794
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: getting through this, We're going to be stronger.

795
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: It's like I would advocate that strongly.

796
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: You have a lot of you know, Ah, it's that's

797
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: why partnerships are so great, right as we lean on

798
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: each other. Sometimes your partner's at twenty percent and you're

799
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: at eighty. Sometimes it's but like when there's those disparities,

800
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: it's like they're not just why we do it, right,

801
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: at least for a lot of people, that's why we

802
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, So to get through this together is

803
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: my advice. I agree, and do it with therapy.

804
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: And also hopefully he learns how to like stand up

805
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: for you and against his family.

806
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, we can't just you don't want to just

807
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: keep hitting your head against the wall.

808
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: Like when things like this happen, changes have to happen.

809
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what allows us to stay together and

810
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: grow and become stronger.

811
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: I forgot to tell you, guys. When my father in

812
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: law and Karen dropped us off at our building. My

813
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: father in law had taken off his pants and got

814
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: out of his car to say goodbye and joked, you

815
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: have our last name. Now, don't do anything of the

816
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: airs thing to diminish it. I was, honestly so tired.

817
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 4: I didn't even respond, just pushed past him and went upstairs.

818
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: And comments common one says, please don't have any kids

819
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: anytime soon. If your husband dropped the ball this badly

820
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 4: with your wedding, you better make sure he is up

821
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 4: to the important job of putting his family you first.

822
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: At this point he has some serious trust to earn

823
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: from you. Definitely go low contact with his family or

824
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: there will always be chaos in your life. Good luck,

825
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: and Opie says, yeah, absolutely doing more therapy before kids.

826
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: Comment two says, I'm so sorry all of that happened

827
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 4: to you. It's comparable to a series of unfortunate events, truly,

828
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: but hopefully the law of averages will mean that your

829
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: future holds amazing good fortune soon. I hope you get

830
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: through processing this and that your husband is able to

831
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: support you properly through this. Maybe later on in therapy

832
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: you and Mike can figure out how to express yourself

833
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: towards father in law on people. Opie says he was

834
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: a professional but also family. I don't think he meant

835
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: to get sidetracked, but ultimately did. And I got a

836
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: ton of photos of them and their side of the family,

837
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 4: not very many of mine. Also, I understand their numbers

838
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: eclipse mine fifteen out of one hundred, so there would

839
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: be less photos. But I didn't get any of my

840
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: great aunt and her husband and a few other family members.

841
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: What is the photographer doing?

842
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: Photographer so dropped the ball there?

843
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: Terrible I bad yell review for him, too, bad yell

844
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: review for there's all things involved in this story. Yeah,

845
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: everyone gets a bad yell review. It's like Oprah, but

846
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 4: with yell review. Yes, you get a bad bad yell review.

847
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: You know, to be fair, Like.

848
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: The in laws in this story sound like they were

849
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: terrible guests to have at this wedding.

850
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, however, they.

851
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: Sound like they would be really fun at a barbecue

852
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: of some kind. Yeah, like you know what I mean,

853
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 3: most stakes barbecue, right, like a place where they sound

854
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: like the kind of people where they show up to

855
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: an event and then they're just like start behaving how

856
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: they would behave if it was their event. Yeah, And

857
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: then don't understand if people are like, hey, can you

858
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: like chill or tone it down?

859
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: Can you take it down? A couple.

860
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it is actually it's my wedding. I'm trying

861
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: to be chill, trying to have this day be a

862
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: little calmer.

863
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of somber.

864
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're at like other people's events that

865
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: you can't behave the way that you might around your

866
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 4: close friends or your family.

867
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: My sister lied about our brother and I accidentally revealed it.

868
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: Uh oh, hopefully that wasn't an important secret.

869
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: Now it's in the open.

870
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: Oh boy, usually a lurker, but something happened tonight that

871
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: has me incredibly confused. Apologies in advance for the length backstory.

872
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm the eldest of four sisters. We are stare stepped

873
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: two years apart. I'm Meg thirty eight, Joe thirty six,

874
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: Beth thirty four, Amy Little Women thirty two, He's New Women.

875
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from user alerk and Throwaway

876
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 3: eighty five, and if you want to submit your own stories.

877
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: Go to your slash okay storytime subburdy. So, our parents

878
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: used to joke about how they kept trying for a

879
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: boy but finally gave up after girl number four. I'm

880
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: gonna lie it hurt our feelings a little, especially Amy,

881
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: but they stopped that and assured us that they wouldn't

882
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: change anything. Every one of us has at least one daughter.

883
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: I am the only sister that has a son at seventeen.

884
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: He's the eldest grandchild, and I'm fairly certain he is

885
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: my dad's favorite person in the world. They are best friends.

886
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: It's adorable. Okay, now that you have the backstory slash

887
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: family history, let's talk about Tonight. My son, who is

888
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: very intelligent and absolutely crushed high school, recently received his

889
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: acceptance letter to a prestigious university full ride.

890
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: We are incredibly proud.

891
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: My folks wanted to throw him a little congratulatory party

892
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: and Tonight worked for all of our schedules, which is

893
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: no small feet with four different families and eleven kids

894
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: between them, So we all headed to the folks house.

895
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: For pizza and cake.

896
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: At one point, Amy brought up that it is sibling

897
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Appreciation Day and Mom said she wanted all of her

898
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: girls to say what we appreciated about our sisters, and

899
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: we go youngest to oldest, with most of the compliments

900
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: going to me, as I was kind of a second

901
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: mom to them. I told each of my sisters how

902
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: much I love them a mone other things, and then

903
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: finished my speech off saying something like, and I really

904
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: appreciate that we didn't have any gross boys stinking up

905
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: our house.

906
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 2: Everybody except Beth and her husband laugh.

907
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: Beth's eyes got really big, and her husband, Chase, looked

908
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: at me like I was something he scraped off the

909
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: bottom of his shoe. Suddenly he says, that's pretty fed up.

910
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: I said something like, I don't know, Chase, I've.

911
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Smelled you after your workouts. It's pretty bad.

912
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: And he got even more bad and said, how could

913
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: you talk about Tyler like that? And Beth starts losing

914
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: her mind. Guys, she's grabbing him by the arm and

915
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: begging him to hush, saying they need to go home now,

916
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: et cetera. So naturally I'm like, who's Tyler? Well, friends, apparently,

917
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 3: Tyler is Beth's twin that passed away during childbirth, and

918
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 3: it made our folks in me so depressed that nobody

919
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: is allowed to speak of him or reference him.

920
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: Ever, What just happened? What just happened?

921
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: Oh, I think that Beth Lie. I think Beth made

922
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: up a secret brother oh and told her Chase. God,

923
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: I think she told Chase that they had a secret

924
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: brother that passed away or that, Yeah, both of those things,

925
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: and that no one like never mentioned it to my

926
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: family because they're just so torn up about it. But

927
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: it was a lie.

928
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

929
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: Chase was so right though, to be like, yeah, that's

930
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: what Chase was told in a moment, to be.

931
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Okay, that's actually really messed up. Yeah, why

932
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: would you say that?

933
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: That makes a little bit more sense, That makes a

934
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: little more sense. God, He's like, oh my god, you

935
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: guys had a like a brother, Why would you say

936
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: that passed away?

937
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: And they're like what, They're like, who's Tyler?

938
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: So Beth had forbade him from ever mentioning him to

939
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: any family member. After Chase told us this, nobody said

940
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: a word. It was so dang tense. Finally, I just

941
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 3: kind of bluntly said, I'm not sure why, but Beth

942
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: lied to you about this. I think you guys should

943
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: talk about it, but I don't want to hear anything

944
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: else about this tonight, as we're here to celebrate my son.

945
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: After that, Beth burst into tears and ran into her

946
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: old bedroom, with Chase, Mom and Joe following. Her. Party

947
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: never fully recovered and they took off pretty shortly after that.

948
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: I stayed behind to help clean and so my dad

949
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: and son could hang some more. While I'm doing the dishes.

950
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: My mom scolded me pretty harshly about calling Beth a liar.

951
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 3: If the shoe fits mother. My dad said I wasn't wrong,

952
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: but I had embarrassed Beth. What the heck was I

953
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: supposed to do? I was getting chastised over a lie.

954
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Beth also texted me that I fed her

955
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: over and a text from Chase's phone told me I

956
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: was the actual liar and everyone knows that.

957
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: Now Chase is texting her.

958
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: Well, Chase is being like, you're the liar. Everyone knows

959
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: you're the liar. But it could have been her sister

960
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: just texting from Chase's.

961
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: Phone, who knows Amy is on my side, but she

962
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: and Beth always butted heads. Joe claims she's neutral, but

963
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: she also told me I didn't have to call her

964
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: out like that.

965
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: What was I supposed to do? Just take the lashing?

966
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: And why is everyone acting like me calling out what

967
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 3: I consider to be a pretty heavy lie is worse

968
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: than the lie itself. How do we resolve the situation?

969
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: I love my sister so dang much. They are my

970
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: best friends, but this is so weird and so wrong

971
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: to me. We have some relevant comments.

972
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: I just don't understand why everyone's blaming you for being like, uh,

973
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: that's not true.

974
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, you were putting in a situation. You're like

975
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: where Chase was.

976
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Like, why are you cracking jokes about your like you're

977
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: passed away brother.

978
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 4: And you're like, we don't have a brother.

979
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: That's not You're happy that there's no stinky boys here,

980
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: like the boy that was supposed to be in your family,

981
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: and everyone's just like what are we talking?

982
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: I literally, I don't understand what you were supposed to say.

983
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what you should have said, which is like, hey,

984
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: like that guy doesn't exist and never did.

985
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: I don't understand why everyone, I'll say it, I don't

986
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: get it.

987
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, what if they're all just like you didn't know

988
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: about Tyler? Yeah, imagine it's like well you didn't know.

989
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: They all just start jy jump. They hop on that

990
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: like yes, comment one. I can't imagine any other response.

991
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: I really can't. Were you seriously expected to lie along

992
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: with her? I think that is shocking, Opie says. I

993
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: have no idea what she was expecting. I have lied

994
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: for her before, but saying she's at my house while

995
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: she's really getting boudoir photos done for him is not

996
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: the same as lying about a whole person that never existed.

997
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: It is beyond bizarre.

998
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 3: Comment to I'm kind of impressed that after all of that,

999
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: she managed to convince her husband that you were the liar.

1000
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: Of course, if he still believes her, he is dumb

1001
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: as a brick. I think there is proof enough on

1002
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: her birth certificate, as it will state she was a

1003
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: single birth, Opie says. I will say Chase is not

1004
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 3: a dummy, and he's typically not malicious, And although nobody

1005
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 3: really backed me up about this being a lie, at

1006
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: least not in front of me, I think it's pretty

1007
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 3: obvious that I was telling the truth, as everyone else

1008
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: was obviously confused and completely silent in the moment. I

1009
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: have not responded to the text, as I'm not looking

1010
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: to burn bridges. I've made many mistakes, and my sisters

1011
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: have graciously forgiven me. I'm just flummixed and a little hurt.

1012
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: Comment three says this is very weird. I'm confused at

1013
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: why your parents aren't embarrassed by your sister's behavior, especially

1014
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: trying to keep up the lie afterwards and saying you're lying.

1015
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: Is she mentally okay? Does she have a history of lying?

1016
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: Opie says we all lied as kids, but I assume

1017
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: she grew out of it as an adult. We also

1018
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: all exhibited some attention seeking behavior, but again age appropriate,

1019
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: especially for a family with four kids and two parents

1020
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: who worked full time. I like that comment, just being like, oh,

1021
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: Pele was like, well we did lie as kids, we

1022
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 3: grew out of it. It's like, well, every kid lies lies,

1023
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: every kid wants attention. My parents are hippies and have

1024
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: a very much live and let live kind of vibe,

1025
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: but this feels icky. There be no good to me,

1026
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: so I'm a little surprised that they're not more upset

1027
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: about it. Then again, they never punished us in front

1028
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: of each other, so they could be dealing with it

1029
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: or planning to deal with the situation behind the scenes.

1030
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: Either way, Beth is way too old to be making

1031
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 3: up these kinds of stories about siblings that never existed.

1032
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: Comment for said, your sister dug herself into a wee

1033
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 3: hole and is now mad that she has to dig

1034
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: her way out of it, and is placing that anger

1035
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: on you for accidentally handing her the shovel. If she

1036
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: wants to blame anyone for being caught in a lie,

1037
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: she can look in the mirror. How do you fix it?

1038
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: Your sister has to pull her head out of her

1039
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: butt and apologize for putting you all in that position,

1040
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 3: and then you can think about apologizing for being blunt

1041
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: about it. But to be honest, I don't feel you

1042
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: did anything wrong exactly here. You had no idea what

1043
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: was going on and why you're being accused of being

1044
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: a bad person, and literally just wanted the focus back

1045
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 3: on your son's achievements.

1046
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, the beginning of that conversation was Ope being attacked.

1047
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty fair for Opie to address that

1048
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: bluntly and being like, why am I being attacked for

1049
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 4: being a bad person when my sister's flyire you?

1050
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, what was I supposed to do?

1051
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: Just be like, actually, yeah, I did just make maybe

1052
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: the worst joke I could ever make about my deceased brother.

1053
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy, that's oops. I'm disgusting, Barry.

1054
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: It's not like you accidentally spilled a secret you were

1055
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 3: supposed to keep. Her sister created this entire mess, and

1056
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: she'd probably explain to you guys why she did it

1057
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: in the first place. Ohp says, I appreciate your input

1058
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: and kind words. I don't like drama, so I find

1059
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: it best to just kind of stop it in its tracks.

1060
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 3: And my son we recently got an autism diagnosis, which

1061
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: was formally referred to as s Burger's and it's messed

1062
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: with his head a little. He's always been so bad

1063
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: socially and really struggled making friends. As a result, his

1064
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: cousins got the bulk of the attention. He was really

1065
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: proud of himself, and I wanted him to remember this

1066
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: little get together because it was all about him for once.

1067
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Come in five, Your sister is a freak weirdo. D

1068
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: straight to the point.

1069
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: He remember one. Your sister's a freak weirdo.

1070
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, is it inaccurate? I don't know.

1071
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: Making up a passed away twin for what sympathy attention.

1072
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: She effed up and everyone knows it. Why anyone would

1073
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: want to cover up her lie is beyond me.

1074
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: She made her bed.

1075
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: Let her deal with the repercussions of this outrageous lie.

1076
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: Question though, did or have your parents tried to set

1077
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: the records that's right with her idiot hubby or are

1078
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: they staying silent about this alleged twin baby that never existed?

1079
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: Opie says, when I told Chase she was lying, nobody

1080
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: backed me up. But I believe it was kind of

1081
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: obvious because nobody refuted my claims that, coupled with Beth

1082
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: frantically trying to get her husband to leave, Chase is smart.

1083
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: He can put two and two together. I mentioned in

1084
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: another comment that our parents never punished us or really

1085
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: got onto us in front of each other, so I

1086
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: would like to think they're handling things on that end

1087
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: behind the scenes and trying to appeal to my dislike

1088
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: of drama and empathy to get me to forgive her.

1089
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: I don't find the lie unforgivable. I think it's bizarre

1090
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: and I don't appreciate it, but I don't think our

1091
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: relationship is over I love her. I took her on

1092
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: her first date, took her and a boy to get

1093
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: ice cream and they held hands.

1094
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: We lied to our parents about that one.

1095
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: That was cute.

1096
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like nice. Yeah.

1097
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: I don't think this is a moment that like permanently

1098
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: alters your dynamic as like sisters or anything.

1099
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 4: Literally, what this feels like is your sister told a

1100
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: really weird lie. You were like, that's a lie, and

1101
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: then she's like, dude, why.

1102
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: Didn't you back me up a lie?

1103
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: Because I'm not gonna be the guy who slammed dunks

1104
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: on Tyler.

1105
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just put it that way.

1106
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: I helped take care of her when she was postpartum

1107
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: because Chase had to work.

1108
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: She's got my heart, you know.

1109
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: Comment six says, just to be clear, you do recognize

1110
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 3: this level of lie as a mental health disorder. Correct.

1111
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: While I am not a therapist, this very much sounds

1112
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: like some strain of Munchausens. Again, not a therapist, just

1113
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: therapy adjacent in training and work, so I have some familiarity.

1114
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: So get her some professional help. This is not just

1115
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: a cry for help.

1116
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: This is a sign of a broken brain that requires

1117
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: professional help and maybe even medical interventions.

1118
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: I feel like we're jumping to conclusions before we have

1119
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: the full story.

1120
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: Probably Opie says, I work in healthcare, albeit not directly

1121
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: in the mental health field, but I am a little

1122
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: familiar with various disorders.

1123
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: I do actually think she's a hypochondriac.

1124
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: One of my nieces is always coming down with something

1125
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: they are not or my sister definitely has Crohn's disease.

1126
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: She does not.

1127
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: She won't drink milk if it's within three days of

1128
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: the best by date, refuses bread pudding because you use

1129
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: old bread to make them, won't eat brownies Ie baked

1130
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: from scratch the day before because they're old. So I

1131
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: know she's got some issues, but hey, we all have issues.

1132
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm pretty emotionally closed off except to my spouse and children.

1133
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: Some people think that makes me a bee. I try

1134
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: not to be too judgmental because I'm definitely not perfect,

1135
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: but I'm judging the f out of this.

1136
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: We have an update.

1137
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, what do we care most about in this story,

1138
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: the apology or the acknowledgment from the family that it's like, Hey,

1139
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't wrong to call her out in that moment.

1140
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: No, I literally just want to know why she like.

1141
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to know where this came from.

1142
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: I just want to know why.

1143
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: Let's get into the update.

1144
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I think we have some answers regarding the events

1145
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 3: that occurred last night. I do want to tell everyone

1146
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: who took the time to give advice or kind words,

1147
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: thank you. I honestly couldn't read everything. I was and

1148
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: am exhausted, but I did get an idea of how

1149
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: I wanted to approach everything thanks to the advice given.

1150
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: My post says it was removed, blah blah blah. It

1151
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: is not fake. I wish it was.

1152
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: I really wish my mind worked in a way where

1153
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: I could make things up like this, but my imagination

1154
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 3: is lacking. To your parents named you after little women.

1155
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: This is probably partially to blame for the fake comments.

1156
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: These are just placeholder names I used, as there are

1157
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: four sisters in that novel. I'm just there's seven points here.

1158
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read them all. Beth is continuing to lie,

1159
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 3: and Chase is believing it, and your mom and Joe

1160
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 3: threw you under the bus too.

1161
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: About Chase, I think he knew I was being truthful.

1162
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: Also, I said the text came from his phone I

1163
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: was thinking, Actually Beth sent it as that's not Chase's

1164
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 3: vibe about Mom and Joe. They didn't throw me under

1165
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: the bus. But I'll get more into that soon. Or

1166
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: is it possible my mom had twins and I just

1167
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: forgot or didn't know about. No, absolutely not. I was

1168
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 3: at all of my sister's birds. I don't remember Joe's,

1169
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 3: but I do remember Beth and Amy's, and there were

1170
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 3: no multiples, no funerals, no depression.

1171
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: Number Five.

1172
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 3: The birth certificate will prove it, I'm sure it would,

1173
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 3: but I'm not about to try to strong arm myself

1174
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: into showing her husband her birth certificate.

1175
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: Six.

1176
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: Your sister's mentally ill. Also the golden child, and you're

1177
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: the scapegoat. I'm not about to say my sister is sick,

1178
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: but I do think she has some issues, as we

1179
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 3: all do. There's no golden child and the scapegoat in

1180
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: this family. My parents were and are really good about

1181
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: treating all of us fairly and equally.

1182
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: Seven.

1183
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: You could have or should have been more tactful and

1184
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: pulled her aside and not called her a liar in

1185
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: front of everybody. Had I known that Tyler was my

1186
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: fictitious passed away brother. I never would have asked who

1187
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: he was. Chase and I tease each other a lot,

1188
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 3: and I honestly thought he was about to come out

1189
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: with some kind of funny joke a la des nuts.

1190
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: Regarding my lack of tact, I don't know.

1191
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty lacking in tact to make up

1192
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: a whole passed away sibling and really facts or facts.

1193
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: She lied, and that's that. The night was about my son.

1194
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: So I squashed the issue and chose to move forward,

1195
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: hoping to end the conversation with as little drama as possible.

1196
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: Now here's the update. After a night of barely sleeping

1197
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 3: and my blood pressure dangerously high, I called my mom

1198
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 3: this morning, fully ready to let out an emotionally charged

1199
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: tirade about how I feel they unfairly threw me under

1200
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: the bus and took Beth's side when she objectively did

1201
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: the worst thing. My mom answered the phone, apologizing and

1202
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: asked me to just listen.

1203
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 5: Ooo oooh, explanation, explanation, immediately, explanation, right now, let's go.

1204
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: When she and Joe followed Beth and Chase into Beth's room,

1205
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: Mom did tell Chase that Tyler was not real and

1206
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 5: that this is an issue between her and Chase and

1207
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 5: they should probably leave because she didn't want the evening ruined.

1208
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 5: She did get on to me, but it was mostly

1209
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 5: out of sympathy and empathy for Beth, and she recognized

1210
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: it wasn't okay.

1211
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: She apologized for that.

1212
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 3: We spoke with Chase this morning, and Beth, who is

1213
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: the one who sent me the text from Chase's phone,

1214
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: finally came clean early this morning after hours of denying

1215
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: the lie. Something I didn't mention as I didn't feel

1216
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: it was pertinent to the story is that Beth's eldest daughter, Madison,

1217
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 3: isn't Chase's biological daughter. He's been around since Madison was two.

1218
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 3: Also kind of pertinent is that Chase is first responder.

1219
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: He loves to be a hero, and he's very good

1220
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: at that role. He met Beth doing victim's advocacy, and

1221
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: as such, I believe they both view him as saving Beth.

1222
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: This has long been speculated, but it's not exactly our

1223
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: place to say anything. And we all love Chase. He

1224
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: is an amazing person. Also, Beth is no dummy. She

1225
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: picked up on Chase's hero complex immediately. It appears that

1226
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: In an effort to make herself more sympathetic, vulnerable, or broken,

1227
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 3: she lied about having a twin brother that passed away at.

1228
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: Birth, which is basically what we said.

1229
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: Essentially, Yeah, it's just like still to give me more attention,

1230
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: but never speak of.

1231
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 4: This, don't ever bring it up ogame.

1232
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: Never speak of this to my family.

1233
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: It's like a beetlejuice situation. You can't say his name.

1234
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: Can you imagine if this had never happened, and Tyler,

1235
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: like Chase at one point like brings up to like

1236
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: I don't know, like like their mom just randomly like yes.

1237
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know, I was just bringing.

1238
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 4: Up Tyler in some way Tyler, And then the mom goes,

1239
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 4: who your son?

1240
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: And he goes, oh, no, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have

1241
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: said anything. He wouldn't he would have been like, I'm.

1242
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 4: Sorry, I shouldn't I should have brought it up.

1243
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: And then the mom forever is just gonna be like

1244
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: what was he talking about? And Chase is going to

1245
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: be like, I can't believe I messed up so hard

1246
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: I brought him up. She's so emotionally distraught she can't

1247
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: even remember. I guess being in a bad relationship and

1248
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: having a small child just wasn't enough. She did not

1249
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: have to do that. They've been together ten years now

1250
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: and not once did she come clean to me. That

1251
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: proves a clear pattern of deceit and manipulation. However, I'm

1252
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: not going to speculate on her mental health problems or

1253
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: reasonings for not coming clean. That is for her and

1254
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: her husband to deal with. Neither one of them have

1255
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: called or texted me to apologize, and I'm honestly unsure

1256
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: if they will. Beth is more of a rug sweeping type,

1257
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: while I'm a confront issues head on type. I will

1258
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: not be cutting off my sister for this. I love

1259
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: her and at the end of the day, I just

1260
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: want her to be happy and healthy. I do hope

1261
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: that this whole issue will cause her to rethink some

1262
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: of her life choices and maybe she can get some therapy.

1263
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 3: I think we could all use therapy, to be honest.

1264
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: And by by the way, you can all listen to

1265
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: full episodes with stories just like this on Spotify or

1266
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio or Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.

1267
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: Just search Okay story time and the world is in

1268
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: the palm of your hand. Our proverbial world is in

1269
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: your hand. There is a little bit more story.

1270
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: So we learned that it was just for attention, literally

1271
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: what we said.

1272
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: So now, which is weird?

1273
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 3: I think the most interesting question is not if you

1274
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: were op, but if you were Chase.

1275
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: What do you do? What do you do? In Chase's

1276
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: position here?

1277
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: The thing is like, I don't think this is a

1278
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 4: big enough thing to necessarily divorce over if it's the

1279
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: only thing she's slied about to this excent, But I

1280
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: would be like, that was weird. It was weird of

1281
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 4: you to do.

1282
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So that is where we're at right now. My

1283
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: mom did not offer any information about how Beth and

1284
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 3: Chase are doing, and I did not ask.

1285
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: It's not my business.

1286
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: I have not heard anything from Joe, but Amy and

1287
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: I have been exting all morning, and she is being

1288
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: my best good friend right now and providing a lot

1289
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: of support. Hopefully we can all move forward and grow

1290
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: together in the future. Thanks again for the support you've

1291
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: sent my way. We have some more comments here. Number one,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad your mother apologized, but your sister really owes

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Speaker 3: you and the entire family in apology. This was a

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: really selfish and weird thing to do. She also owes

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Speaker 3: Chase and his family in apology. I hope she gets

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Speaker 3: some help from this good luck. Comment to your sister

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01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 3: could probably benefit from therapy. I will never understand why

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Speaker 3: people think it's a good idea to lie about something

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Speaker 3: so easily disproven. Don't lie about anything, and you won't

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Speaker 3: have situations blow up like this. I hope she comes

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Speaker 3: to her senses and apologizes to you.

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Speaker 2: Comment three.

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Speaker 3: I think your family needs to do a sit down

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01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: with your sister because this isn't normal behavior at all.

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 3: She lied for ten years about a past away brother.

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: Y'all need to call this behavior out since she's way

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Speaker 3: too old to be acting like this and doing nothing

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01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: is showing her that you guys will accept similar or

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Speaker 3: the same type of behavior in the future. Comment her

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Speaker 3: for says, well, this is why she continues to do

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Speaker 3: this nonsense at her big butt age. No one holds

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Speaker 3: her accountable. You can't move forward and grow together if

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Speaker 3: people don't take accountability. Your entire family enables her in

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Speaker 3: the worst way, which again is a big freaking jump

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Speaker 3: to make off of one situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I think absolutely it is disturbing to have it.

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Speaker 2: Go for ten years is disturbing.

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Speaker 4: Well, but my wonder is is this something that she

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01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 4: offhandedly said at the beginning and then he never forgot

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Speaker 4: about and brought up exactly like why was this something

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Speaker 4: that he kept bringing up?

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Speaker 2: And she acted has money on that.

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Speaker 3: It was just like the this will make the hot

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Speaker 3: guy have sympathy for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is still like not okay obviously, but I

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Speaker 4: think did I think there's a big differend he has a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of sympathy for that ten years later something. How

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Speaker 2: dare you say that in front of her stop in

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Speaker 2: front of my wife?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, I think there is a big difference though, between

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Speaker 4: like an act of lie that she's been keeping up

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Speaker 4: with or just something thing that she mentioned and she remembered.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam' your ogi host here, bring it back

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Speaker 1: to the stories. But here's three minutes bads from our sponsored.

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Speaker 4: My sister's beliefs are starting to ruin our relationship. I

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Speaker 4: want to cut her off.

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Speaker 2: I believe you stink.

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Speaker 4: I forty eight female, have five siblings. I am the oldest,

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Speaker 4: and for a significant portion of my life I was

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Speaker 4: the only child since my parents had me as teenagers

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 4: married for less than two years, then divorced when my

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01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 4: mother turned eighteen and dad was twenty one. I lived

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Speaker 4: with my mom after that and saw Dad on occasion.

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Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from select goat five five

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01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: to seven two and if you want to spit your

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 4: own stories, go to our slash shokey storytime supperate it.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted siblings very much growing up. My half

1349
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: brother was born when I was nine, and he is

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Speaker 4: definitely my favorite, even though he has severe autism and

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 4: only speaks in one word sentences. Okay, we have the

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01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: same mom, but different dads. Being a sibling to someone

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 4: with a mental disability hardwires you into certain kind of person,

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01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 4: one who forgives things very easily and who's stays under

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01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: the radar. That's the kind of person I am. Just FYI.

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Speaker 4: My three step siblings I no longer talked to, even

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Speaker 4: though one of them I do want to be in

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Speaker 4: contact with. Another story for another day. The meat of

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Speaker 4: the story is this. My youngest sister is almost fourteen

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Speaker 4: years younger than me, and we share a dad. She

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Speaker 4: was technically my second sibling. Even though I was a

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Speaker 4: bit jealous to see my dad be a better dad

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Speaker 4: to her than he ever was to me. I'd had

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Speaker 4: him all to myself until she was born. I was

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01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 4: still very happy to have her in my life, and

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01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 4: I put in a lot of effort to be around

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Speaker 4: her while she was growing up. Eventually I realized we

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01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 4: grew up with two different versions of our dad. I

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01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: got fun dad and she got strict Dad. So the

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01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: jealousy only lasted a few years. Our dad passed away

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight. She was eighteen and I

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01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 4: was thirty two, and she moved in with me and

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 4: my family for a couple of months before she decided

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 4: she didn't like my rules and moved out. In twenty eleven.

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: She told me she felt she was better off without

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01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 4: me and no longer wanted me in her life.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I try to find out why, but she wouldn't tell me.

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: For two months. I texted and emailed asking her to

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: at least give me a reason, and when she wouldn't,

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01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: I gave up and said I loved her and was

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01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: there for if she needed me. She contacted me the

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01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: very next day and forgave me, but still never told

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Speaker 4: me why. After that, I felt like I was walking

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01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: on eggshells.

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Speaker 2: No way I refuse. I'm not accepting that.

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Speaker 4: No, you need to tell me a reason. In twenty sixteen,

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 4: we went on a road trip and got into a

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Speaker 4: major fight, one that broke something inside me. I ended

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Speaker 4: the trip early and brought us home. We were in

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Speaker 4: my car and for thirteen hours she yelled and screamed

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Speaker 4: at me, with breaks in between.

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01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: Why I hope you were using the brakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry. But also she's like screaming at you,

1395
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 4: and then she'sai like, Okay, hold on, I have to

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Speaker 4: I have to go on my phone for a couple

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Speaker 4: of minutes. Yeah, She's like, oh my god. Wait, hold on,

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Speaker 4: it's my jam hold on, it's my jam My jam

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Speaker 4: yet shackait Wait, okay, back to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: I seriously considered leaving her at a bus stop, but

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01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: when she would stop, I thought she was done and

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: would continue on. Within an hour, she would start all

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 4: over again. This was October, and after I dropped her off,

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 4: I felt like I was never going to talk to

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: her again, like I was done with her. I had

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01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 4: never been that mad in my entire life. I started

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 4: seeing a therapist around that time for job counseling, and

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01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 4: my therapist told me that my youngest sibling might be bipolar.

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Speaker 4: Keep that in mind. Being told that about a family member,

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 4: it makes you reframe your thinking of it, like should

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: I forgive her? No, you just go with that information

1413
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 4: and you say, hey, you should probably get some help.

1414
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean that you have to accept all the treatment

1415
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: that you're getting.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't forgive her until she comes to you in

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: a manner where it seems like she is seeking forgiveness.

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Speaker 4: And also in a manner that she's getting like you know,

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01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: she's also getting help too, right now, like nothing is happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: At Thanksgiving of that year, that was when my relationship

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Speaker 4: with the stepsister I loved ended. Her mom married and

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 4: divorced her dad, and I instigated it. I sent her

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Speaker 4: a text another long story, so I'll just leave it

1425
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Speaker 4: at that what My stepsister didn't respond. But the day

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Speaker 4: after that, my youngest sister sent me a slew of

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Speaker 4: nasty text messages saying she was cutting me off. Before

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 4: I cut her off because obviously family didn't mean anything

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 4: to me, I led her and went no contact. I

1430
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: wanted to leave it that way, I really did. When

1431
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: January twenty seventeen came around, but her mom passed away.

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be the type of wiener sibling

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Speaker 4: that didn't even show for a funeral because I felt

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01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 4: we would probably make up one day. But I was

1435
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 4: waiting until I was no longer angry. I went to

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Speaker 4: the funeral. We agreed to talk and try to patch

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: things up, but she told me I would have to

1438
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 4: change things about myself. Two days later, after she ripped

1439
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 4: me apart for an hour, I got up and walked

1440
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: away from her, determined to stick to my no contact decision.

1441
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 4: Oh and this is where the kid part comes in.

1442
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: She was pregnant at the time with her first child.

1443
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: I let her rip me apart because she was pregnant

1444
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Speaker 4: and had high blood pressure, and we passed away the

1445
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 4: heart attacks in my family. That was how our dad

1446
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: had passed. I didn't even defend myself against the horrible

1447
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 4: things she said to me that day because I wanted

1448
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 4: her to have a stress free pregnancy, and I was

1449
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 4: worried that if I spoke she would lose the baby.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe also her like going off on you probably

1451
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: not great for her blood pressure. I think generally you

1452
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: could just be like, hey.

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: We should all just calm down.

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01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, which, as we all know is the best thing

1455
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: to say to someone who's worked up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true, probably a better way to say. I

1457
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 4: say that because my first child was born six weeks

1458
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Speaker 4: early when my old blood pressure spiked from a stressful

1459
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 4: situation my ex stepmother put me through again. Long story

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Speaker 4: another day. From January to October of that year, my

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: sister got married. I wasn't invited. I switched jobs and

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 4: moved out of state with my family. She had her baby,

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Speaker 4: and then she finally called me in October to apologize

1464
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: and ask if we could make up. A full year

1465
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 4: after the road trip and the longest we had ever

1466
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 4: not talked, I had calmed down by then. I am

1467
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: someone who prefers to forgive easily. My fellow people pleasers

1468
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 4: would understand that, and we made up. Oh how I

1469
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 4: wish I had never answered that call. That Christmas, my

1470
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 4: youngest sister was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder when she

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Speaker 4: was forcibly entered into a hotel little psych word. She

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Speaker 4: had gone there for something medical. She had been sick

1473
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 4: to Preston, got some kind of cold, and the staff

1474
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: at the hospital forcibly committed her. This is what her

1475
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 4: husband told me.

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 2: Whoa, Wow, what was she doing? Yeah? What was she doing? Aggressive?

1477
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: She must sing?

1478
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 3: Who knows.

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Speaker 4: They kept her for two weeks because she was self

1480
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: harming and they worried she might hurt my niece. They

1481
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: prescribed her meds, counseled her, and she was forced to

1482
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: stick with both for months afterwards. Quick insert here. My

1483
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: sister is a terrible mother. When I was raising my

1484
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 4: own two kids, she would try to give me advice

1485
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: about how to raise them, but I would stop her

1486
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: because she didn't have kids at that time. She would

1487
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: tell me, You're not supposed to raise kids like that.

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01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 3: The Internet says, girl, dude, the Internet says all kinds

1489
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,440
Speaker 3: of girl cock grade stuff.

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Speaker 4: And I would shut her down with you don't get

1491
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 4: to tell me how to raise my kids. I changed

1492
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: your diapers. This caused a lot of tension between us.

1493
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 4: Back to the story. When she had her kids, she

1494
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 4: raised them according to how the Internet told her to

1495
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: raise them, and she made it clear that my advice

1496
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,919
Speaker 4: was not welcome. I was fine with that, but secretly

1497
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: I gluted because she turned her first child into a

1498
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: little monster. She believes you never say no to a

1499
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: kid and that you should coddle them when they cry.

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: I truly disliked my niece for the first four years

1501
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 4: of her life until my sister got pregnant again and

1502
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 4: stop the mets. When my nephew was born, my sister

1503
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: finally started saying no to my niece, and I actually

1504
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: like her.

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 4: She's become more like me, whieter, calmer, happy to have

1507
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 4: a little brother. She's become your typical older sibling. Her

1508
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: little brother is a little crap though, little devil. But

1509
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 4: the point is my sister wants to have more kids.

1510
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 4: She's decided she wants four, so she's never returned to

1511
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 4: her meds because she's either breastfeeding, which she does for

1512
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 4: two years after every child, or she's trying to get pregnant.

1513
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 4: She had my nephew back in twenty twenty one and

1514
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 4: she's been trying to get pregnant ever since. Where is

1515
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 4: the husband and all that. He's just kind of like, Okay,

1516
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 4: I know you need like medication, but let's just have kids.

1517
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just floating around. He's just upping the sky.

1518
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 4: Clearly. She's miscarried twice since then, and now she's forty

1519
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 4: three weeks pregnant. You read that right, forty three. She's

1520
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 4: three weeks overdue. Wow, and they're expecting the baby to

1521
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: be at least ten pounds.

1522
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 2: Oh, how much I was dan? At least? The doctors

1523
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: still aren't sure how much I weighed? What that doesn't

1524
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: make sense? Wow?

1525
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 4: Are they not sure?

1526
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: They?

1527
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: Literally? Why they're unsure? Were you? Of course they're sure

1528
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: how much I weighed? You guys? Why are we taking

1529
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 2: this so serious?

1530
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: What did you mean by that?

1531
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: No?

1532
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: What did you mean by that? I don't know.

1533
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: I guess whatever it was, I achieved it because I

1534
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: had delivered it in.

1535
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: A way where you went no way.

1536
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 4: Here's where my issues with her come in. When she

1537
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 4: commits to something, she commits, and right now she has

1538
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 4: committed to becoming the scary kind of Catholic. I have

1539
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 4: nothing against Catholics, but she's got a giant picture of

1540
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 4: Jesus right next to her living room TV and has

1541
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: painted some ridiculous made a phrase about Grace on another

1542
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 4: living room wall that makes no sense to me. It's

1543
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 4: definitely not from the Bible. Her home is like a filthy,

1544
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 4: dirty looney bin because she doesn't really clean, and she's

1545
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 4: become a bit of a When I visit, we don't

1546
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: leave her gross house and she has given up her

1547
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 4: four year Ivy League degree to be a stay at

1548
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 4: home mom because.

1549
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, I really don't well. I mean sometimes

1550
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: you know that happens. Yeah, that kind of happened to

1551
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 3: my mom. Like my mom had like a.

1552
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 2: She was a entrepreneur, she like businesses and stuff. Then

1553
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: she had me. She was like, I am not I

1554
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: don't think that ending anymore time doing that.

1555
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 4: I don't think that's that crazy of a thing to do.

1556
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes people have a kid and they're like, oh,

1557
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 3: this is my thing. Now I'm dropping everything for this

1558
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 3: creature that I.

1559
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: Get to her, there's a creature now. The last visit

1560
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 4: that I had with her two years ago, she told

1561
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 4: me not to say the word attracted to the same

1562
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: gender in front of her children because she didn't want

1563
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: to teach them about that.

1564
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: And her church says, okay for reference at word was gay.

1565
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, for reference, she sucks. I cut her off and

1566
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 4: told her to shut the f up. My oldest is trans,

1567
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: not binary, and you could say they're attracted at the

1568
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 4: same gener since they were as signed femal birth and

1569
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: now go by day and my oldest likes girls before

1570
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 4: you ask. We're fine with it. We accepted it from

1571
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 4: day one. Well, a part of me is still holding

1572
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 4: onto the dream of being the best big sister ever

1573
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 4: and having super close relationships with my siblings. Secretly, I

1574
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 4: hate people who are close to their siblings. They get

1575
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 4: so jealous when my coburgers tell me how close they

1576
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 4: are to their siblings, that they have weekly meals together

1577
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 4: or go on trips together.

1578
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: By oh, he's gonna hate you and sham we live together, actually,

1579
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 2: me and my sister.

1580
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we both live with our siblings.

1581
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, pretty cool.

1582
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 4: I want that so bad, but it seems it's not

1583
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: in my stars. Still, I want to cut my sister

1584
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 4: off because she's way too intense for me. Now. Every

1585
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: phone conversation becomes an argument she has to win, even

1586
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 4: though we aren't arguing. Every phone call lasts at least

1587
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 4: an hour, and she always turns it into a praise

1588
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 4: Jesus session, Praise Jesus. I consider myself a Christian, but

1589
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 4: her ideas about Christianity are so absurd, Like she literally

1590
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 4: said one time that the Catholic Church has never persecuted

1591
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 4: anyone ever, and she said the history of becks are

1592
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 4: just lying. She's straight up to Lulu. I don't know

1593
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 4: if she would get better if she went back on

1594
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: med I wasn't really around when she was on them,

1595
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 4: but I feel like the more kids she has, the

1596
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: crazier she seems to get. I want out. I'm super

1597
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 4: low contact now, but I still want out. However, I

1598
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 4: can't seem to get rid of this guilt about it

1599
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 4: because she has no one left, no parents, no grandparents.

1600
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 4: She doesn't live near any of our relatives, and she's

1601
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: not close to any of them even if she did.

1602
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: Her in laws don't really like her, and I wouldn't

1603
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 4: be surprised if her husband divorced her one day. I

1604
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 4: think he's a saint for still being with her. I

1605
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: want to cut her off, but I know she's getting

1606
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: self harming tendencies, and I do worry about my niece now.

1607
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm just going to lead into that,

1608
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 4: you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

1609
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search

1610
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 4: her poke storytime. But there is a little bit left

1611
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 4: to the story. Indeed, if you cannot deal with her

1612
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 4: behavior anymore, and what's best for you is you know,

1613
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 4: limiting contact, then you gotta do with best for you.

1614
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean you have to like go completely

1615
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 4: no contact if you still want to keep an eye

1616
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: on her knees.

1617
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hard situation be in. You know, like

1618
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: a cute mental illness is involved some way.

1619
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: It's like never an excuse for behavior, it informs behavior.

1620
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 3: It's like you have to make the call yourself on

1621
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 3: if you know it is something that you can handle

1622
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 3: in your own life. You can't be prioritizing somebody else's

1623
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 3: emotional state.

1624
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 4: And also your own not getting medicated. Who knows they

1625
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 4: should be medicated and is not being medicated?

1626
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,440
Speaker 2: You know, you're not teenagers.

1627
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 3: Your sister has to make her own decisions about that stuff.

1628
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: No one can do it for her.

1629
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 3: I mean unless she, I guess, goes to the hospital

1630
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: and probably like yeah, a tax, a nurse or something

1631
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 3: like whatever happened that got her put in a involuntary hold.

1632
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 3: But you're gonna have to find a way to make

1633
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 3: peace with the fact that you can't make her do

1634
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 3: anything exactly.

1635
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 4: Our aunt, who's the nicest, sweetest aunt in the world

1636
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 4: in my opinion, and the one person I most try

1637
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,959
Speaker 4: to emulate thanks. I should just forgive her and continue

1638
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 4: being there for her. That I can't.

1639
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 2: I want to let her go.

1640
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 4: But what's the magic phrase? I know I'm not really

1641
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 4: an a hole because I'm still hanging around, but I

1642
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: want to be the a hole. Unfortunately, I'm hardwired to

1643
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 4: be the people pleaser. Someone give me the magic phrase

1644
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 4: that will release the guilt. Please help me become an

1645
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 4: a hole.

1646
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to make an a hole.

1647
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 4: No, I refuse.

1648
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: I want to do that

1649
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: Can't change the fact that that you know, she has

1650
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 4: porderline personality disorder, and so it's just managing how much

1651
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 4: you're able, like how much contact you're able to have

1652
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 4: with her for your you know, while also still maintaining

1653
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 4: your own mental well right, But that is the end

1654
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: of that story.