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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: and are you with you? Along with doctor Elison hass As,

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Speaker 1: we talk about his Peace Medicine. His websites are linked

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Speaker 1: up at Coast to Coast dam dot com. A couple

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Speaker 1: of his books include Staying Healthy with the Seasons and

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Speaker 1: Staying Healthy with New Medicine Integrating natural, Eastern and Western

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Speaker 1: approaches for optimal Health. You know, it's if you don't

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Speaker 1: have your health elson you don't have anything, you can't

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Speaker 1: take care of the people you care about. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love it. I so like to practice. I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of people my age have retired. I have a

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Speaker 1: great team of people. We love working together. We'd like

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Speaker 1: taking care of our community. I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: my clinic in northern California has been not closed the

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Speaker 1: day since the pandemic started. We're one of the few

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Speaker 1: places that are actually seeing new patients and help trying

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Speaker 1: to help people stay out of trouble and keep their

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Speaker 1: health together. I mean, it's all about you know. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's about partnership with patients, and it's about listening and

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Speaker 1: helping them find their paths because even at the end

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Speaker 1: of staying healthy with the seasons, I wrote, Uh, the

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Speaker 1: disease is resistance to change. It's it's blocking the messages

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Speaker 1: that we were we our body wants us to um experience,

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Speaker 1: and and when we start to really listen and make

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Speaker 1: those changes to what our inner being is telling us,

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Speaker 1: we start to heal. And you know, so to me,

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Speaker 1: it means, you know, and sometimes it's as simple as

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Speaker 1: eat different foods, or stop eating certain foods, or take

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Speaker 1: a break. You know. I you know, I have this

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Speaker 1: quote I just did. I said, I So, you know,

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Speaker 1: prescribe or dole out a lot of drugs, but I

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Speaker 1: really prescribe good lifestyle and detoxification because when people do those,

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Speaker 1: they start to feel better, They start to be able

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Speaker 1: to reverse the problems or their high blood sugar they're

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Speaker 1: high cholestero, their blood pressures, their aches and pains. I've

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Speaker 1: been doing detox programs for thirty forty years with people,

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Speaker 1: and I just most everyone who starts to clean up

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Speaker 1: their habits a bit temporarily, even just to see how

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Speaker 1: they feel, can get improved health. How did you uncover

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Speaker 1: or come up with peace medicine. Well, I've been well,

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Speaker 1: I actually lived in northern California, a town we call

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Speaker 1: Peacetown music every but you know, it's been part of

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Speaker 1: part of me since medical school. Even I just felt

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Speaker 1: like the way that we're taking care of people and

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Speaker 1: taking over people to a certain degree, and I think

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Speaker 1: western medicine has a tendency to that. I challenge that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of a rebel medical student

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Speaker 1: in ann Arbor, Michigan. You know, you when I grew

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Speaker 1: up in Detroit, and my friend Bethany just asked me, well,

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Speaker 1: what did you know? What did it take for a

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Speaker 1: guy from Detroit to come out to California and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden be writing books and talking about health

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Speaker 1: And it just was, you know, was part of the times.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, the early seventies, and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't believe. I thought war was foolhardy. It was

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Speaker 1: why can't people talk through things and resolve? And so

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Speaker 1: I actually applied as a conscientious objector when the draft

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Speaker 1: and it was really the beginning of me writing about

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Speaker 1: my philosophy and feeling and you know, it's just about

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Speaker 1: you know, medicine, and you know, I want people to heal,

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Speaker 1: and healing has to do with peace. It has a

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Speaker 1: bit to do with the this Carl Young road about

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Speaker 1: the mystical marriage and the alchemists about you know, when that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the masculine feminine parts of us and our

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Speaker 1: it's a nice thing to see when that happened. And

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Speaker 1: but people are so ingrained in their their habits, and

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Speaker 1: there's substances and the you know, their belief in whatever

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Speaker 1: I prescribe them every day to help people manage their problems.

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Speaker 1: But the better medicine is to start earlier and keep

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Speaker 1: yourself healthy and live in a healthy lifestyle you mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier to me, that's that's where we're all really belong

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Speaker 1: and that's where we should be educating our children in

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Speaker 1: to give them all the you know, injections that they're

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Speaker 1: It's it's been challenging as a doc, you know, to

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Speaker 1: is right for their bodies, and yet at the same time,

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Speaker 1: the government or the laws that are enacted, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you believe at all, we're approaching eight billion people, doctor,

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Speaker 1: eight billion people. Why can't this planet get together and

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Speaker 1: on a mental illness especially in young people. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I said? You know, the safest thing was you to

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Speaker 1: go into a thirty day program and just have someone

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Speaker 1: taper off these medicine. But you can't do that. It's

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Speaker 1: you have to work nowadays and everything else. Exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, finding finding the peace, George is

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Speaker 1: the challenge for everybody. And sometimes you have to heal

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Speaker 1: some of your childhood stuff. You have to get over

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Speaker 1: your story that you tell yourself, because those are you know,

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Speaker 1: exercise in general, because it really calms and improves your

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I didn't exercise regularly, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: the same MOODA And then I have I exercise four

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Speaker 1: that's my regiment about you and you feel better afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, So and everybody has that, and

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Speaker 1: do this series of stretches called the Eight Elementals, their

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Speaker 1: Daoist longevity exercises, where there's another series of exercises called

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Speaker 1: the Katakata that was put forth by George Leonard and

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Speaker 1: Michael Murphy in the environment you're doing, yeah, and these

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Speaker 1: are and these are things that I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: teaching in the peace medicine. It's like some practice that

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Speaker 1: our being, into our emotional selves, into our spiritual opening.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me again, we're here on earth to learn,

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Speaker 1: us to do that individually, because we all have a

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Speaker 1: of what peace medicine is about is what learning to

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Speaker 1: use illness as our ally and not an opponent that

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Speaker 1: we have to fight. So we want to bring that

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Speaker 1: awareness of listening to what is your body telling you

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Speaker 1: And to delve into that and not to say superficial,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have back paint. I'll take some Adville

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Speaker 1: a sleeping pill. We have to work through these things individually.

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Speaker 1: And if you're you know, a patient with a practitioner

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Speaker 1: that you see, you want to really be involved in that.

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Speaker 1: I only work with people as their partners. I don't

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Speaker 1: work with them as their doctor telling them what to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I have suggestions all the time.

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Speaker 1: You can go from me talking now, But definitely it's

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Speaker 1: up to them because if they don't decide to do it,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to get done it. It's their body.

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