WEBVTT - NEWS: X-Men Casting, Hall H Reactions, Lanterns, and More!

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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of News, we're talking X Men, We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking holl Age, We're talking Black Panther, We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Lovey, question Mark, It's Duds.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, my name is straight to you and I'm Rosey

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<v Speaker 2>Night and.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to ext Revision Podcast, where you guys beep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your favorite shows, movies, collect to pop culture. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>weeks It's news.

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<v Speaker 2>We made it another week. Well done, guys. In today's

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<v Speaker 2>previously on episode, we are catching up on the biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>Deep news off the week, including.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't able to record it on our last news

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<v Speaker 2>episode because we were got to record the day before.

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<v Speaker 3>The panel happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are talking about those new Marvel costings, Black Panther, ghostwriter,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean for the MCU? Was that enough

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<v Speaker 3>to save the MCU?

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<v Speaker 2>Plus we also gotta we gotta let you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>it might be a record breaking week for Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find out. We know a lot of you

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<v Speaker 2>have been going to see it could even break Endgames

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<v Speaker 2>record if it really overperforms. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get that far, but I do think it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to beat the last Spider Man movie, No

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<v Speaker 2>Way Home and.

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<v Speaker 3>A low production note, next week's schedule will be a

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<v Speaker 3>little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Monday we will have our instant reactions to Sunday's House

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dragon episode. Wednesday will be our deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into Spider Man brand New Day with a roundtable reaction

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<v Speaker 2>for spoilers, and then on Thursday, we will cover the

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<v Speaker 2>penultimate episode of X Men ninety seven season two.

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<v Speaker 1>News Rosies. Marvel made its triumphit return to San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>Comic Con Hall h They did Where the Where The

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<v Speaker 1>Where the Champions Live. It was their first Hall Ah

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty twenty four, so it's not like they were

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<v Speaker 1>away for a significant period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>But still eva like that was more of a little

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<v Speaker 2>Wolverine deppool moment. This is more of the classic big It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Notable in the sense that it certainly seemed when Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>and Disney launched E twenty three that that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the place where all of their significant announcements

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be launched. So it's clear that Marvel

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<v Speaker 1>is looking to launch things with the widest possible footprint,

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<v Speaker 1>and boy did they They returned to Hall H. The

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Reporter called it Marvel's most crowded comic con panel. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that that could possibly be true me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely not because the whole h. I the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of on the ground when I was talking to people

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<v Speaker 2>in the lines and whole h, they were not as

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<v Speaker 2>busy as usual. There is a conversation though, that has

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<v Speaker 2>been being pushed by the organizers of San Diego and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Petco Park that hallll H was so busy

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<v Speaker 2>this year that they might have to move it to

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<v Speaker 2>Petco where it's going to be thirty thousand people, And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you would never be able to stop a leak.

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<v Speaker 2>Every trailer would get like recorded, there's drones. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>no sense. So I think that's part of the push.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was. It was hugely popular. This was the

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<v Speaker 2>panel Marvel could not give us press. They told us

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<v Speaker 2>they had a lower allotment.

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<v Speaker 3>We know why that was now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because there was about fifty cast members in there

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<v Speaker 2>that they needed to give the usual press a lotment to. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was an interesting one. It was definitely very busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it do enough? Jason?

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<v Speaker 3>When you were reading. Did you feel like you were

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<v Speaker 3>getting those big hitting moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they did enough. Obviously, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of Hollywood pizazz involved. Apparently they handed

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<v Speaker 1>out thousands, potentially seven thousand masks and capes to the

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<v Speaker 1>attends at Hall h They started the presentation with a

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<v Speaker 1>sizzle reel that included Toby maguire, Spider Man, Patrick Sewart's

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<v Speaker 1>professor X so clear that they're setting up for big things,

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<v Speaker 1>and then this tied directly into the new footage which

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<v Speaker 1>has since leaked of. Was it a Doomsday trailer or

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<v Speaker 1>was it like a sizzle reel of stuff from Doomsday?

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<v Speaker 1>It was unclear. I think that's the question, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like an extended trailer of Doomsday stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were trying to kind of get people

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<v Speaker 2>excited for the Avengers Endgame Encore, which they're releasing September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth, which is this re release of the film,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're claiming it's going to have seven minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>new footage that ties directly into Doomsday and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to see it, and the Russo Brothers said, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>watch it or you're not gonna know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is very silly. I don't believe it, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but yes, I believe this is a reel. Was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of trying to get people like, hey, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>see well back in that era.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I got to tell you guys, go on IGN.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an article that I wrote where I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania and I had to drive out to a

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<v Speaker 2>random AMC at like nine am to watch the last

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<v Speaker 2>end game re release they did that allegedly was going

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<v Speaker 2>to have this new footage, and it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>this like dedication to stan Lee. It was more of

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<v Speaker 2>a fan thing, but I mean there was a time

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<v Speaker 2>when things like this were newsworthy. I had to write

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<v Speaker 2>that up put that on the website so we could

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<v Speaker 2>get it up straight away. Like so there will be

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<v Speaker 2>reporting on this. You will be able to find out

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<v Speaker 2>what the seven minutes are. And if you go and

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<v Speaker 2>see that, it will be the first film screen in

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<v Speaker 2>Infinity Vision, So we'll be able to get to get

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<v Speaker 2>an idea of what that is. But that was really

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<v Speaker 2>just the tease for the big news, right. Jason so Feigi.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that this return of Avengers in Game Encore to

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<v Speaker 1>the theaters is about quote reminding us all what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like to be in a theater cheering along, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a little bit. We've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>movie since.

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<v Speaker 2>Babe, it's not kevi he that was like it's been

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<v Speaker 2>like don bust ted years We've been seeing in all movies.

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<v Speaker 2>It said.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who loves this is the exhibitors, the the

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<v Speaker 1>theatre partners. Cinemak CEO Sean Gamble said, quote, we commend

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<v Speaker 1>Disney for taking an important first step in regal cine world.

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Eduardo Acunya said, It's been a long time coming,

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<v Speaker 1>and we love that Disney is taking the lead. They

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<v Speaker 1>would love this, I think. And from there we started

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<v Speaker 1>announcing some very interesting product projects, starting to create twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight ghost Rider starring Ryan Gosling, with Sean Levy directed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll say this, Sean Levy, I guess when you

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<v Speaker 1>make a billion dollar movie in Deadpool and Wolverine like nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you what do you expect?

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just not. I'm weary of Sean. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that. Look, I'll put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my generous take, which is I love Rang Gosling.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think he's a star. I think he's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that together, like you know, like Sean Levy

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<v Speaker 2>has done fun stuff, right. But I think the problem

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<v Speaker 2>with Ghostwrider that we've had is, like the Nick Cage

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<v Speaker 2>ones were really silly and fun, and whether we like

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<v Speaker 2>them as camp classics, it's not necessarily a great representation

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<v Speaker 2>of the character. I fear that Sean Levy does not

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<v Speaker 2>have the tone or does not lean into the tone

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<v Speaker 2>that I would like to see, especially if you're casting

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<v Speaker 2>a Gosling who's done Drive, who's done Place between the Pines.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually quite an interesting bit of meta casting.

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<v Speaker 2>But will Sean Levy lean into that? Is it just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be comedy? Is it gonna be Johnny Blaze? Would

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<v Speaker 2>it be Danny ket I know, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it could be catch because like he's blonde, it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think they'll go classic, especially because it's Levy,

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably gonna lean very heavily into nostalgia and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I would say Ryan Gosling's like star Power, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of inspired by you know, Evil Canievil sort of vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not it's not giving me a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>love but Aaron did just point out that Sean Levy

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a producer on the back Rooms. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting more into weird shit. Maybe he's getting more

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<v Speaker 2>into weird ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's hope that ghostwriter has some sort of story.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike the back Rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>It was read by an it year old Jason, give

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<v Speaker 3>him a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Give air. By break, I mean, they put.

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<v Speaker 1>It on the big screen, and what are gonna do, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no story, very you know, wonderful. The vibes were eerie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a wonderful vibe movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very vibe, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, that wow incredible. Sean so Gossling apparently approached Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is a Ryan Gosling has been after for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. It's kind of like Keanu Reeves and Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an onga and combo. He loves this character. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is very interesting. Let's just quickly truk Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Levy movies. Okay, let's start with Big Fat Liar two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two, starring Frankie Munez and Paul Giomonni. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody remember that that's not whatever, not a great movie,

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<v Speaker 1>Just Married is a Ashton Kutcher and Britney Murphy or

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<v Speaker 1>I P Vehicle a young newly woid couple who takes uh,

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<v Speaker 1>who takes her honeymoon in Europe? Cheaper bind the Dozen.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was pretty good. This is of course a remake.

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<v Speaker 2>Make classic, but as you can see, these are very

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<v Speaker 2>like comedy family movies.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pink Panther.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's another remake starring Steve Martin. Night at the Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a pretty good movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm a Knight of the Museum fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Should just film Ben Stiller Night at the Museum two.

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<v Speaker 1>Battle of the Smithsonian. I like this one less m

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<v Speaker 1>m but the your the gang returns Ben Stiller, at Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Zoe and Wilson, Hankazaria and Hydrinks still in the

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<v Speaker 1>multi dimensional Museum. Date Night, Uh. This starred Steve Carell

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<v Speaker 1>and Tina fay On. Like the worst date ever. Also

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<v Speaker 1>Taraji p Henson. I didn't love this one. Real steel

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<v Speaker 1>fucking terrible, Oh awful?

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<v Speaker 2>Should have been great? Was This is what I mean? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say something, Yell, we've been bragging a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on Anna Nagera, the writer of the Supergar movie,

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<v Speaker 2>which was not great, and she worked at the Flash.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the problem with Hollywood. You can make a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of mid movies if you're just a random white

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<v Speaker 2>guy like you can make a lot of movies just

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<v Speaker 2>like oh my God. But if you're a woman and

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<v Speaker 2>you make a bad movie, they put in you a

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<v Speaker 2>movie jail.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a conversation about the quality of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>in our opinion, not the box office. I'm convinced these movies,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly The Night of the Museum movies made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money. I don't know, but I thought that movie sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Vaughan and Owen Wilson. I did not see that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Google.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not great that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is where I leave you. Jason Bateman, Tina Fey,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Driver, Rose Burn. This was kind of like an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt at an adult dramedy vibe. Yeah. Night at the Museum,

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<v Speaker 1>Secret of tomb I also didn't love this one, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>free guy. I thought this one was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I started the cinema. It's like, it's like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the cinema able, you know, yes, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The Adam Project.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's want him to bring was not for me Deadpool

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<v Speaker 1>and Wolverine a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I got this movie, baby, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course Star Wars Starfighter to come and now to come.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I will say the fact. I will say, if

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit hopeful, I do think. I think the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Disney is making Starfighter with Levy and Gosling and

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<v Speaker 2>that chemistry is so good and they're enjoying well they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing that, that they trust them together is interesting. But

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<v Speaker 2>also do we trust their taste fully at this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do they know what the audience want? We also

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that. But I mean, Gosling's a charm bomb

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<v Speaker 2>and they need something like that at the MCU. Now

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<v Speaker 2>they need someone they can pull out who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>charm people say me, me shit, like here's just in

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<v Speaker 2>a cute costume, Like he'll do all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a take. I don't trust a handsome director. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Sean Levy is handsome, but it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like he looks like he looks like he should be

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<v Speaker 1>like hosting The Price is Right or something. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>do one of those new fangled like uh game shows

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<v Speaker 1>where like it's a comedytion. The voice, Yeah, the voice

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<v Speaker 1>and like a password sham this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I like my director to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be a grubby little goblin come on. But the more

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<v Speaker 2>exciting because look, I'm going to be real. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think the Gosling thing is cool. But I will say

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<v Speaker 2>I do think both of the big casting reveals were

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<v Speaker 2>rumored for so long that I don't think it is

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<v Speaker 2>really the big thing we were expecting, which was X Men,

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<v Speaker 2>though I do think now that is a timing issue

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll probably see that. More on that coming. But

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<v Speaker 2>the big, big reveal that I think did deliver because

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<v Speaker 2>it is just great casting, even if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>rumored casting, was that Black Panther three news Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>Black Panther three slated for December fifteenth, twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>no title yet announced, but the new Black Panther was

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<v Speaker 1>revealed and it is David Johnson of Industry Alien, Romulus

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<v Speaker 1>and The Long Walk Fame. He will play too Shan

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<v Speaker 1>to Challa's son who is introduced at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Wakanda Forever. And I love the casting.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Some I've seen some sniping about it that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the star power shut the fuck up, shut

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck off Guyso he is so talented and good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so amazing. Chadwick is so amazing. Let's be real

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<v Speaker 2>about the stop Like Chadwick became a star. He was

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<v Speaker 2>already a star, but he was a global stop host.

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<v Speaker 2>Black Panther David. I saw a great tweet where it's

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<v Speaker 2>basically like that he has the same kind eyes as Chadwick,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's fucking true, like they look like they could

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like it could be his son. David has

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<v Speaker 2>such an unbelievable range, Like if you've seen him in

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<v Speaker 2>The Long Walk, which is just this incredibly bleak kind

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<v Speaker 2>of slog of a movie, and he is the beating

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<v Speaker 2>heart at the center of it. Alien Romulus, a movie

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<v Speaker 2>that even people who didn't really like were like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the best character that we've gotten of that type. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna spoil it because you know, go watch the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually pretty fun. Also, I want to shout out

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<v Speaker 2>and me and Jason have already talked about this movie before,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is a fantastic rom com lead in the

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<v Speaker 2>delightful Ry Lane, which you can watch on Hulu.

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<v Speaker 3>He has the range. She's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally looks like he is Chadwick and La Peter's child.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible casting. He's humble as hell. You can tell

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<v Speaker 2>that Ryan loves him. Also, I was very impressed FIGI

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<v Speaker 2>has been on a humility press tour recently, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think was needed, But he has been very open about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that even before he officially started looking for people,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan basically showed turned up to him and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I found the guy. He was like, I saw him

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<v Speaker 2>in a thing, and I found the guy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am meeting him in a hotel and if he's the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy. And five he was like, Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>your choice, and that's fucking right, that's what we want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear. And I think it's going to be really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see where he lands and how they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of showcase him living in the shadow of his dad,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously, like the second movie, that will be a

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<v Speaker 2>real meta textual movie because it's also about David living

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<v Speaker 2>in the shadowick shadow of Chadwick. So yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was immensely good casting. A lot of people were

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<v Speaker 2>really rooting for Damson address, so I'd seen a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of controversy about that, But I thought this was

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<v Speaker 2>delightful and I'm very happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy too. He is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>talented young actors out there. Just super super excited to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, the Avengers Doomsday Megapanel came on.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>The official log line of the movie beloved heroes from

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<v Speaker 1>three distinct universes will be set on a deadly collision

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<v Speaker 1>course and face an existential threat unlike anything they've ever encountered.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I have been saying the pole so the

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<v Speaker 1>staging was. It was a pretty incredible visual. Pedro Pascal

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<v Speaker 1>for sevans Haileiatwell, Robert Denny Junior came out.

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<v Speaker 2>They had them so through the crowd like that, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>of them and they were like high fiving people. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a real magical moment for the people in Hoole Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it had that juice that people like.

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<v Speaker 1>Spect Then, like a Mutrushka Russian nesting doll, Marvel revealed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of showboating pizazz by popping open a

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<v Speaker 1>hidden second stage at the back of the Fallah from

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<v Speaker 1>which the Thunderbolts cast in two thousand era X Men

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<v Speaker 1>actors emerged and to your point, walk the entire length.

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<v Speaker 2>The hall, and like am Baku, they kind of mixed

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<v Speaker 2>it was basically like who you're going to see? They

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to confumb there's going to be like twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>people you know in this movie at least.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got the unique footage that has never

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<v Speaker 1>been dropped yet. This is from a different trailer, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Opens with Doom on a golden throne, Sue's storm saying

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<v Speaker 1>Victor was always the smartest guy in every room. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew he was lost, but didn't realize he was broken.

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<v Speaker 1>She says everything he loved was taken from him. We

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<v Speaker 1>see it destroyed cityscape and here read Richards, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>saying Victor, did you do this? Doom again complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>everything being stolen from him, and then we hear Thor

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<v Speaker 1>saying I swear you for her what I through with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and Doom stopping Thor's acts with like one ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we and that finger. See we saw the that's

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<v Speaker 2>been a huge talking point, the storm Breaker being stopped

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<v Speaker 2>with two fingers. We yeah, that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sent Tos are raised out of the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and begin to fight our heroes. The cast as you

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<v Speaker 1>know already is huge. We don't know much about the story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like everything they released thus far is

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<v Speaker 1>just like fight fight, Fight, Fight, Fight. Will be eager

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<v Speaker 1>to know what the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie. How are you feeling about the vibes for Doomsday?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that dipping my toe into like the

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<v Speaker 1>fan discourse, I would say it's trending hotter, but still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like in the lukewarm agree, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>so people are looking people are looking at this like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to prove it to me, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it's excited for this, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the regular kind of movie critics are

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<v Speaker 1>just like, here we go again. Yeah, it's played out.

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<v Speaker 2>I am slightly. I'm just a little bit nervous, but

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<v Speaker 2>only ironically because Spider Man is like, was really good

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<v Speaker 2>and did a lot of stuff that kind of counteracts,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, the critiques that those people usually have.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can read on my my substack. I mean no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can read on my ghost my ghost newsletter. I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a spoiler fore review that was basically like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how I thought the balance was so good and

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<v Speaker 2>part of that is these kind of almost smaller stakes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do fear that what was great about Spider Man

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<v Speaker 2>will not necessarily transition to Doomsday, and I fear that

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<v Speaker 2>it may be a little wrinkle I just think about

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<v Speaker 2>this is no spoilers, but the credits begin with these

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous shots of New York, these gorgeous b roll shots

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<v Speaker 2>of New York, and you just feel like, yes, I'm there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in New York. This is a real place where

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<v Speaker 2>real characters live and I love them. And everything I

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<v Speaker 2>see from Doomsday is, oh, that's Patrick Stewart, Oh that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I worry that the grounding will not

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<v Speaker 2>be there, but also look, do I want to see,

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, beating up Doctor Doom? Yes I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So will I be there, Yes I will. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I just fear that so far the focus is not

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<v Speaker 2>on the things that I think are most exciting about

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<v Speaker 2>the MCU. But I agree with you, this has gone

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<v Speaker 2>in the fan space from oh this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>suck to wait a minute, maybe there's something here, like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we will get a bit of that endgame juice,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe this will set something up, and if it's

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<v Speaker 2>going the route we think, I think it will end

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<v Speaker 2>up streamlining everything so that by Secret Wars we are

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation where there's one universe which will include

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<v Speaker 2>all our characters, and that I think is a necessary

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<v Speaker 2>step for where they've found themselves in the MCU alas

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<v Speaker 2>not the celebratory call version that we would hope for,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that could take us back to that

0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man place. I just I feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>iffy about it, but it was so great to see

0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>everyone get so excited. And you know, I'm loving the

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<v Speaker 2>discourse about Robert Downey Junior's Dracula accent.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very far, but.

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<v Speaker 2>People are not loving it, so you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm waiting. I guess I'm waiting till December. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>waiting till we get to see it, and I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to see if it gives me those feelings of like,

0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, Cat picking up that hammer in an endgame.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about a million times, but that was a

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<v Speaker 2>magical moment. Can you repeat it? Is it a double beat?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you going to be able to bring something new?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to get some of the characters we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen, Like, there's so much we don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing that post San Diego and post D twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be like a rush of information about

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<v Speaker 2>there were stay and the future.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some bit work during the the Avengers Doomsday event,

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<v Speaker 1>including Rye Leuds appearing in the crowd in his gray

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<v Speaker 1>and black dead which he is now calling your costume.

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.479
<v Speaker 1>He's now he's describing it as a gen gray colored

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<v Speaker 1>because it's denim, so you know, he's a very sassy man.

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<v Speaker 1>There was kind of a very canned like heckling from

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Rudd and some laughlines that I didn't quite land,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's okay. So all of which is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I will that the black and gray suit is yet

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<v Speaker 1>another data point that D twenty three is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be big on X Men. There's so many science pointing

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<v Speaker 1>towards X Men, including let's just say, theories about whom

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<v Speaker 1>Sadie Sinc. Could possibly be in the current Spider Man

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<v Speaker 1>Brand New Day movie. The understanding that you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of X Men in Avengers Doomsday,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's very interesting. I wonder if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see any X Force.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to get a big x Men

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<v Speaker 2>announcement at d twenty three. That is my feeling, san Diego.

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of us wanted that. I think

0:24:03.119 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>timing Lise might not have worked for them, But I

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 2>think you're right. They're teasing it with those little moments.

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>No Disney plus show news, which is not surprising. We

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about why later and yeah, I mean, Jason,

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that really our biggest hint that more X

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<v Speaker 2>Men news is coming is that crazy drop that Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>found this morning, just literally before we started recording. Thank God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well let's talk about that then, shall we? Shall

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<v Speaker 1>we jump right into it. The Deadline announces today that

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<v Speaker 1>Samorrow Weaving has landed the role of Emma Frost upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>X Men film.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy and I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this by director of The Thunderbolts asterisk Jake Schreier,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm I'm pretty excited. I think he's I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's good and I really like The Thunderbolts. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I thought of with Weaving, who has

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<v Speaker 1>been on something of a role lately ready or not

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<v Speaker 1>yet too came out last last summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was in she was in that she's the

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 2>opening kill and the beginning of Scream six. Obviously we'd

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 2>love Ready or not. She's in my friend Sewan's movie

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Enie Meanie, which was a super fun driving movie. She

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 2>has great taste in scripts, and that also makes me excited, Like, obviously,

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>don't turn down a Marvel gig for the money, but

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>this makes me think Jake's script must be pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be pretty cool. Here's the immediate thought I have.

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<v Speaker 1>If Sadie Sink is Jean Gray hypothetically, hypothetically, if that

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>is true, and we're headed towards a place where Jean

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Gray and Cyclops are going to be an item in

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the films, which I would expect would be true. Yes, right,

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And Scott Summer's Cyclops, who has yet to be cast,

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>is an age appropriate match for Sadie Sink. If Sadie

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Sink is hypothetically Jean Gray, then we've got a situation where,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and I don't hate it, where it's a little bit

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>of an age gap situation. If we go to a

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>place where Emma Scott and well, Emma and Scott are

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>having psychic psychic effect affair, sexual relations whatever. Now, if

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that happens, they would have to do it several movies

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>from now because it can't be when at the school

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and Scott is a student.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitely our favorite bookline, like we always but

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>it's so true. I think I think you're right, Jay said,

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I think she's I like that she's a little bit older.

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<v Speaker 3>She's ten years older than Sadie.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we know that that's probably not the same age

0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>as whoever Sadi's playing, but I like that read.

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I love this casting. I think Samara has the juice.

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I think this is old school phase one casting, where

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>they would just cast a fucking sick character actor who

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, oh.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't imagine tomorrow, even in a superhero movie.

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, now she's playing like one of the most badass

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking characters ever, Jason, She's got to be a villain

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>for the first movie at least, right, a little health I.

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Would bob em Yeah, I would expect. I would expect

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>the Health Fire Club and Emma to eventually well certainly

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Emma to eventually be a good guy. But I think

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>it will take two movies. I think it'll be one

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 1>of those things where the Hellfire Club are villains, pure villains,

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and Emma is the one who's like, who kind of

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>feels bad about it, who just feels a little bit.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>They also did just establish Janosha in the show, and

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 2>we know that they do like to seed stuff. So

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I think having Emma around makes sense. You know, we

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>love her. Yeah, I can't wait for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's bang costing.

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think if you are somebody who follows the trades,

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 2>if you like to follow costing news, you can expect

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks and the lead up to D

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think this is going to be the only

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>X Men costing we see.

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>That's my thinging.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Now, the discourse, as we mentioned, was a

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's interesting, right, like the mainstream press variety

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was basically like is that all the Avy Club was

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like the hall h reveals indicate that Marvel has like

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a lack of confidence. So's it's it's fascinating to see

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>how this stuff is being received right now.

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>And I also not doing this slate, I think, despite

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact that it was the right choice in my opinion,

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>but every year, you know, we get used to these

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>huge slates, so many of the movies don't get made

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>and obviously, see, they didn't want to overpromise. I think,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>especially post Maherschela as Blade and that being announced there

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and that being such a non entity, I think they

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go smaller. But I do understand why industry

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>wise that is looked upon as if it's like, oh,

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>that's pulling back, you know. But I think that for

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the fans, which is what this is really for, I

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>think it's relivered and they got excited.

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I complete, I agree, I agree, And as a fan myself,

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm excited.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to see David.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I have my worries about, certainly about Doomsday, that it

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>might be too over stuffed, that you were kind of

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>rewinding the calendar to try and jump ahead and progress. Agree,

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, to get to rebuild momentum by going backwards.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 1>But I'm tentatively excited and coming off of the momentum

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of Spider Man brand New Day, which we will talk

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about soon, maybe Marvels, maybe Marvel's onto something. Let's take

0:29:56.040 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a break and we'll be back with some trailer thought. Yeah,

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and we're back. A slew of trailers got dropped at

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Sandy Comic Con at First Up Lanterns premier in August

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth of this very summer. That's pretty soon, folks logline

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>New Recruit John Stewart, Aaron Pierre and Lantern Legend Hal

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Kyle Chandler two intergalactic cops drawn into a dark

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Earth based mystery with cosmic ties as they investigate a

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>murder in the American heartland. The trailer is very dark

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and gritty and kind of in the tone of stuff

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we've seen before. We do get a lot more green

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Lantern power stuff happening, Yes, they definitely they see most

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>or at least some of it. Finally, I just I

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta be real. I love Aaron Piaire casting. I love

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>off Friday Night Lights casting. I think the great perfect casting.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But this is very much like it's kind of like

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Supergirl in a way where it's just like I have

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>been dark and grated so much.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I was born in nineteen eighty eight, two years after

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>fucking watch Bed started, Like my whole life has been

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>dark and gritty, comic book stuff, and to have I

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>know that for some people, lindal Off, Tom King, like

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent of the world are like, fuck yeah, that's

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the best team you could imagine.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 3>And fifty percent are like, that is not the team

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I would put on this.

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I am. The more I see of this, I am

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>a this is not the team I would have put

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>on this. I just I don't think it's for me.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>But I will say, if they can deliver a Penguin

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>level show, right, maybe they're gonna fucking surprise us, because

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>nobody thought the Penguin was going to be that good.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Even though I loved the Batman, right, Like, nobody was like.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, this Colin Barrell Penguin spin off is going

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>to be fucking award winning so good, like you can't

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>stop watching it with like a fucking game change of

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>performance by Kristin as you know, in that role Kristin Melotti.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>So like, maybe this will surprise me, but I do

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 2>think it. To me, the trailer was just like more

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>of the same. There was some interesting controversy around this

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>trailer too, because I think it was screen rant misreported

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 2>that it would all be released on the same day,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 2>which was not the case, but that's spread around San

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Diego as the talking point, do they believe in it?

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Do they not believe in it? It now is going

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 2>to be clearly released weekly, so hopefully that means they

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>think that it's got some juice that can get those

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>talking points. What did you think of the green lantern effects?

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you think it looked good?

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were a pod very clean. I'm very

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>intrigued that Sinestro appears to be the you know, the

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>bad of this commit commit to the weird shit. I

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like that commit to the weird shit. It's also been

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>confirmed that the Manhunters will be involved as a as

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>a signal an antagonist here, which is very very fun.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I will say that, like the reports that I've read

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>at Ion nine, the direct elsewhere say that the clips

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that they played in the room were much more buzzy

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and well receissin the trailer is interesting.

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So this is a very interesting Well, this is another

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>interesting point though, because the reporting was essentially like they

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>showed everything but the first like they showed everything where

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it almost felt like you were seeing the pilot, but

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>they didn't just show the pilot. So that obviously means

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that there's something very spoilerific there. But from what they

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>from what I heard, the clips of the actual show

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>really played amazingly in the room. So yeah, that sounds

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>like a good a good omen for us and maybe

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 2>it's got like a baby Yoda style twist at the end.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, they don't they don't want to reveal.

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Now, Gunn the embattled question Mark, James Gunny Good the Believer.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>James Gunn did not appear in Hall h which you know,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know he was on. He appeared in a

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>video message take Me from the set of Man of Tomorrow,

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in which he talked about how and kind of like

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>set the stage for this show. But I am excited

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for this show. I think it looks great. Mynd worry

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like we're just kind of being a

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>dead horse with this because I want DC to succeed

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and I want it to I want this. I want

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the gun Era to be the success like I Actually

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I think comic movies will be better if

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that happens. It does feel as if this is you know,

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>when you go to dinner with somebody and they just

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 1>order like three appetizers. That's what it feels like. Yeah,

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a really good way of putting it. Actually,

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't feel like we're building towards a meal.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>But we will see, we will.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about this. We will see up next Lord of.

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>The Ring a man sexy Souron He's back.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Briggs of Power visual teaser trailer only the teaser Sexy

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Soarn is back.

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts on this, I thought, I look good.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's wanted to see sexy sourn it is.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's kind of also giving to me like

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a interview of the vampire switching

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to the Vampire list stat where. I do feel like

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>this teaser trailer is very different from the rest of

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>the seasons, which were very cozy and cute, and this

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>is like darker son evil, which season two did begin

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 2>with a really great opening that kind of reset that tone.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So I do think that also going to be hoping

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>for a few more like classic stands. Here. We also

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>got a glimpse of official first look at Gandalf. You know,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 2>if you watched the show, you'll know that was a

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 2>long burn come in so so yeah, I'm interested. I mean,

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of the show. I feel like I

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 2>love to see millions of dollars spent well on a

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>border the Rings story by an evil operation. Like to me,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna complain because it's always lovely to watch,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, no, I thought this bang. Actually I was.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Listen, evil corporations and billionaires only do two positive things

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>for us, that is pay athletes and make movies and

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>television jokes. So like, keep spending that money, What the

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>fuck do I care? Some interesting reveals from the Simon

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Peg the voice of Bowrog.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh crazy, But I like the nudy. I like the

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>nut bringing in the nuts, the lifelong nuts.

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Bringing the nerd. I really enjoyed the kind of like

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>darker feel, which is appropriate for the rise of Sarah

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>on the show premieres November eleventh. Apparently three drops. There's

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be an episode one to four drop November eleventh,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>then episodes five and six November eighteenth, and then episode

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>seventh and seven and eight November twenty fifth. Five there's

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 1>a time jump, Yes, this is a five your time

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>jump after the events of season two, at the height

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>of the War of the Elves and Sarn with the

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>forging of the One Ring as the spine of the story. Yes,

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>how do you interpret this drop, Cadence.

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I think that they are hoping for like a holiday

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>binge watch type situation, And I'm also guessing that each

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>end it, they've basically ended it wherever there is an

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>arc that can kind of have a cliffhanger that will

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>keep people watching. Because we know they have had retention

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 2>issues with this specific show and getting people to watch

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the entire season, so I think it's to do with that.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I think they're trying to find ways to hook people in.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not gonna lie. I actually think they have

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a secret weapon this year, which is Jamie Campbell Bauer,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 2>who played Veckner. He who is just unbelievably popular, right, Like,

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>people fucking love that kid.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Vecner is huge. He was DJing at San Diego Comic Con.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>He's playing Celliborn, He's playing the Why, the husband of Galadriel.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that could bring a big STAN kind

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of contingent in. I think that they're going for a

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>bit of a younger audience with that costing, So I'm

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>interested to see where it lands. But I think the

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>cadence says they need people to keep watching. So they've

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 2>basically made three small movies, you know.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the big news that, as many have pointed out,

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of this This is basically what I

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>think fans thought the show was going to store. Yeah,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>this season is going to be what everything has been

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>leading to, and it's going to be the story that

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I think people were thinking the show was going to

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 1>be when we came into it. So I think that's

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty exciting.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm stouts for it. I think it's going to

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>be fun.

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Up next. Blade Runner twenty ninety nine official trailer.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't have looked this good, Like I shouldn't think it

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>was going to be good.

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Should not have looked this good. This is a eight

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>episode limited series which will career in November twenty fifth

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon. Crime video log line. Fifty years after the

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>events of Blade Runner twenty forty nine, Los Angeles has

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>been reborn, just not by humanity. Cora, a fugitive in

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>a final bid to stop running, takes on one last identity,

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a blade Runner. Forced to partner with Olwen, a replicant.

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Days from dying, she hunts down a runaway hiding a

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>truth that could collapse their fragile city. This is one

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>of the most unwillly log lines I've ever read.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I've ever read insane very detailed. It's very detailed. It

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>also makes me laugh because what they're basically doing is

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>they're doing pre show exposition.

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 3>In the log line.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Also, I'm sorry, I just need to put this here, guys.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is obviously gonna the baby that they

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 2>find is obviously gonna be a half replicant half human baby. Like,

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.919
<v Speaker 2>come the fuck on, Like this is the biggest tease ever.

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Basically pitched at San Diego as a

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 2>paranormal detective show between a dying replicant and like a

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.000
<v Speaker 2>human who is And it's Michelle Yo and Hunter Shafer,

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's also.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>That's immediately yeah, immediately enough to get me to tutor it.

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I watched it and I was like, oh wait, this

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 3>is like Amazon trying to come for Apple.

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 2>This is Amazon saying, okay, Apple, you're the one who's

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 2>been doing the high concept sci fi. We can do that.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Like this is a lost leader for us too, we

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 3>can spend money.

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 2>So I was blown away. I did not have any

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of even conception of this show. I remember they

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 2>announced it, but the wraps were all over San Diego,

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the trains were driving through, and when I watched it,

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I was honestly like, this is probably the coolest, most

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 2>unexpected trailer I saw, and yeah, it's also going to

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 2>be a new kind of realm in my understanding of

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 2>what we've seen, where replicants are more accepted and humans

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>are more unaccepted. I don't know, I'm very excited to

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>see where it goes. Great time to check out the

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Blade Runner projects that they've done aside from this, the

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 2>comics and stuff. Just a really cool world and yeah,

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm stoked for that one.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Apple TV, plus, I'm going to add something right,

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>please do it audible. The long, long, long awaited adaptation

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of Neuromancer.

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 2>The Oh My God Jesus.

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Sci fi series debuted at Santi or Koma Con and

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I think this was the hit trailer of a great

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:25.720
<v Speaker 1>comicon it Oh my God. First of all, starring Callum Turner,

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>wife of Dua Lipa. He's the male wife of being

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a wife. He's doing a fantastic and supportive job being

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>her wife. And here he is as the main character

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>in Neuromancer, who is like a damage top tier super

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>hacker operating out of futuristic Japan. For anybody who's who's

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>read that book, it's I mean, don't read it now

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to be spoiled, but fantastic.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 2>It's hot to even put into what's like. This is

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>very It's one of the most important books ever written.

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>If you are a sci fi fan, it's one of

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the most This and the Difference Engine a kind of

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>your two most establishing kind of different genre spaces. This

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>is your cyberpunk genre space. Difference Engine is steampunk genre space.

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>But those were the books I read as a kid

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>that changed my kind of view of what's on my country.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>First of all, just a quick thing about Neuromancer by

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>William Gibson. The book came out in nineteen eighty four

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and basically invented a lot of the terminology that we

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>currently exactly is about the Internet, about hacking. I mean,

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>it's an incredible, incredible book. It was thought to be

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.320
<v Speaker 1>unadaptable at the time, which means nothing now and of

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>course for an environment, but the trailer debuted at Santy

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 1>or Comic Con, and it is fucking John dropping.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable great. It's like if you were a kid

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 2>and you dreamed of what a movie of Neuromance would

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>look like, you would hope it looked like this. I'm

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 2>not apart from Callum Turner being you know, Dua Lipa's husband.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I do not necessarily presume he has the juice, but

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>this made me he has the juice. This I think

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you need to be This is a great He's essentially

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>a hacker who acts with his mind, which I think

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is going to be really interesting. Also, I want to

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about the creative team. So it's it's Graham Roland,

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 2>who is who's like an indigenous creator who created a

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Dark Winds which is fucking amazing. Like we've already talked about.

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>To watch Dark Winds. It's like this incredible indigenous res

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>set kind of supernatural detective show. And it's by JD

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 2>and JD Dillard, who I believe is one of our

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 2>most underrated kind of directors. He wrote this incredible he Drew.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 2>He made this incredible movie in twenty nineteen called Sweetheart,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>which was like a fucking cosmic horror movie, and if

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>it had not come out just prior to COVID, it

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>would have just completely blown up. I was begging for

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>it to get a real release during COVID at their

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 2>drive ins. He is so fantastic.

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 3>He made this movie called Slight that I think was

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 3>really popular.

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I am just a big fan, and I think he

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.320
<v Speaker 2>hasn't had his chance to really shine outside of just

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>doing some random episodes like he did an episode of

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the Twilight Zone, he did an episode of The Outsider,

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 2>he was allegedly doing like a Star Wars movie that

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 2>never got made. So the fact that this actually got

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>made and it took them so long to make it, Yeah,

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think from how many comic book creators I

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 2>saw resharing this, especially British comic book creators, I would

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.879
<v Speaker 2>assume that when the writing room comes out, we're gonna

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>see some recognizable names because I saw people like Jamie McKelvey,

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Kieran Gillen resharing this just being like, this is it,

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 2>this is it, this is it.

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>That's a great detail. And I will also say, like

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about it, Apple is killing it with

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>science fiction, killing crazy and this is, you know, along

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>with Foundation, truly one of the iconic series books stories

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in sci fi and modern sci fi. I fucking cannot

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>wait for this. The cast is incredible, including Mark Strong,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Peter Sausgard, d Dandihan Clement's posy Like it's just I'm

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 1>so excited. This is going to be a ten episode

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>series creative for television, as you mentioned by Graham Rowland. Uh,

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and Folks comes out January twenty second.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready.

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I cannot fucking wait for this one.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna blow the roof off next year's

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 2>back conversations if it looks this good, like and yeah,

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you're right, I mean for sci fi people, this is.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 3>A momentous adaptation.

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And I kind of think if I was Apple, I

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 2>would have basically tried to adapt this off the you know,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>obviously adapting another adaptable book by an incredible sci firi

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 2>that no one ever thought could be made, you know.

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think I would have gone to them and

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 2>immediately pitched them and like, hey, look we can do this.

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.919
<v Speaker 3>We can fucking make neromansa and the I mean.

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned it, but the shots of future Japan, it

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like looks like a Kira or something but live. It's

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>just so tremendously exciting the quality of the trailer. If

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>if this signifies like how good the show is going

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 1>to be, Oh my gosh, I'm ready and not fucking wait.

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Read age I said.

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. H Finally, more footage from the upcoming Insomniac Games.

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Marvel's Wolverine. Oh yeah, that's very exclusive, and folks, uh,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's bloody as you would expect. Yes, the premises, Logan

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>comes out of retirement after three years to rejoin Team

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>X when Bollivar Trusts starts kidnapping mutants, forcing him to

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>unite mutants globally against an extinction event. Rescue targets will

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>include Leech, Oh, poor little Artie, Oh my god, and

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I know and nature Girl. Logan's history with the Hand

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>will be a major thread. And if you've seen any

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 1>of the footage that has been released lately and you're worried,

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like am I going to be able to like decapitate Ninja, Yes.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry. It's actually got a blood ability that you

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 2>can like move how bloody it is and how unbloody

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>because it's so excessive at some points. This is really cool.

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 2>The coolest thing that I found out from San Diego

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 2>was this is a Logan who's been raised by mister Sinistha,

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess in this kind of space, which I think

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 2>is really cool. It is also cininically in the same

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 2>world as the Spider Man games in Insomniac.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 3>So this is a schedule of us which I think

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 3>is really interesting.

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait. I'm going to play the shout this game,

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 2>like I can't even lie. I'm probably gonna finally to

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 2>buy a PS five for this one. Like, come on, yeah, Jason,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>bad news. We were having so much fun.

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 1>We were having a wonderful amount of fun. Wonder Man

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>has been canceled at Disney Plus. Now here's what's On

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>the one hand, you're like, Okay, that kind of makes

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 1>sense considering the drop kams. But here's what doesn't make

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 1>sense about it. The show was renewed in March literally, So.

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>This is my current theory. This is my current theory.

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I think from the report and that we're seeing Writers

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Room never opened season two pick up less than like

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking five months ago, right as were released immediately basically

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to other projects. I don't think they ever intended to

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 2>actually pick it up for season two. I think that

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 2>they did that because there was such a huge ground

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 2>swell of critic on public support that they were like,

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>fuck we.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Look, they wanted nominations, they wanted the Emmys.

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I think you lose the.

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Emmy nominations if you don't pick it.

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Say it's a people doing show. Agree, yes, And I also,

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 2>and I also believe I might be wrong about this,

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 2>but I think I'm right.

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 1>The good thing about renewing it and then canceling it,

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 1>even though it is a rug pull for us the Fans,

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is an excellent show that deserves to be seen and

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>deserves the second season. I think the good news about

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the renewal and then cancelation is the renewal should trigger

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the writer's room getting paid.

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, good. We love that fingers crossed.

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I think at least a little bit of money.

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I think theoretically people would have gotten paid off that renewal.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I also say, ya Yaya did a great post where

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of like, hey man, this happened, but

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll see you at the fucking Emmys.

0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 3>So I kind of love that he's still going to

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 3>get his little shine.

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>We know that there was a lot of conversation that

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Figi had with him about how this was such an

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.759
<v Speaker 2>important role and he wouldn't make him take on the

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 2>role if it wasn't a big deal. So hopefully that

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 2>means we will get more Simon. I mean, it's hilarious

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 2>that Ben Kingsley also got a nom for this and

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>they canceled the show. Yeah, I mean it's a bummer

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 2>to me. But I don't really know whether they're going

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to keep making TV shows like this honestly as they

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 2>go forward. So I think that this could also be

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 2>more of a sign about their plans for Disney Plus

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<v Speaker 2>than specifically about wonder Man.

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<v Speaker 3>But this was received very badly, and I think fairly.

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<v Speaker 1>The cancelation was received exactly the show was received. One

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<v Speaker 1>of Oh, the.

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Show was like ninety one percent critics score and run

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Tomatoes beloved huge. I mean, I got the guys on

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Escape Patch into it, and they do not really fuck

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<v Speaker 2>with Marvel in the same way, and they were all

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 2>devastated when it was canceled yesterday. I think unfortunately this

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>read whether it's intentional or not, like look at the

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 2>ship that gets canceled at Marvel Man, like they put

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 2>this shod stuff that doesn't get picked up, that doesn't

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 2>get made. Obviously, we had this issue with Blade no

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes of Waconda season two, the Dora Malage series that

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.280
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to start the Blade. Obviously our biggest issue

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<v Speaker 2>the Marvel's not seeming to appear anywhere in Doomsday, whether

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.880
<v Speaker 2>or not it is intentional it looks like Marvel is

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 2>reacting to the current politics, and I don't think that's

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 2>going to make people feel included or happy. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see if that plays out in Doomsday. I'm hoping it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a different story on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>The other part of this is sadly, I mean, despite

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the critical claim Wonderman did not develop an audience.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know that. We don't Disney really court.

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus, of course, like all the streamers, does not

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<v Speaker 1>release actual data, but the data that is available through

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<v Speaker 1>Nielsen and elsewhere, which measures basically accrude minutes watch watched

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:09.240
<v Speaker 1>minutes through their own third party system that measures people

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.279
<v Speaker 1>watching on streaming platforms and then registering with Nielsen, just

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<v Speaker 1>like in the old days with TV had Wonderman at

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 1>six hundred and eighteen million minutes in week one. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in the Binge model. Now. The thing about the

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Binge model is it does inflate. One week drops Echo,

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:30.640
<v Speaker 1>which is widely thought to be the weakest or among

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the weakest, of the Disney Plus TV Marvel offerings, was

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<v Speaker 1>at seven hundred and thirty one million, and you know,

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>barely more than wonder Man. Wonderman did make like one

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 1>appearance in the top ten appearance on meals, and then

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it dropped off so sadly also people were not watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems it's Yeah, it's a tough It's the constant

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 2>tough conversation with streaming where it's like, what is success,

0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 2>what do they deem as success? What will they use

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.240
<v Speaker 2>as an excuse? I think we will get more news

0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 2>on this soon. It seemed like Yaya already at least

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 2>had a bit of a heads up, but I thought

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 2>the post was a good kind of reclamation of his

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 2>time and his kind of like agency on it. It

0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>will be interesting to see where it goes. I hope

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 2>we see him turn up again. I think at least

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>we got almost perfect season of Supero TV. You know

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that team division like.

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I love those, they're remains your.

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<v Speaker 1>Previous point though Daredevil Born Against season one never charted

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.920
<v Speaker 1>under the Nielsen exactly Nielsen measurement and did get renewed,

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't, you know, we don't sure what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on up next?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, in our insane news that we will surely

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 2>be out of day on by the time you listen

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:51.320
<v Speaker 2>to this tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I predicted one seventy five to two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty as the opening. You did one for Spider Brand New.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, you did one A eight to two ten, and

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I did two ten and we were really, we were

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<v Speaker 2>very very.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sony is projecting one hundred and ninety five million domestic.

0:54:15.200 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 1>The movie's already made one hundred million internationally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And can I just say that domestically yesterday in

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>previews it made seventy four million dollars in one day.

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 2>So Sony's like doing a safe projection where they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>like it's going to be one hundred and ninety five

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 2>mil domestic, But are the studios and indie trackers are

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 2>basically saying they think it's going to open closer to

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<v Speaker 2>two fifty to three hundred million domes.

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Thirty to two fifty box office process too, eight to

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>three hundred, which is the high side. And then when

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you throw global in there, you're looking at almost half

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>a billion to you know, four twenty five to four

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty five million globally.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw huge, huge, huge movie.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point, seventy two million is the highest grossing

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 1>previews score box office number ever. This is fucking monster movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you, I didn't think it could out

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 2>do No Way Home because everyone had been waiting for

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 2>The Spider Man Together, right or the Spider Man's depending

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 2>on what you believe. But I will say if this

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:31.719
<v Speaker 2>movie truly opens as big, I saw Jason people predicting

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that if it opens domestically as big as they expect,

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.399
<v Speaker 2>like up to three hundred, and if the international keeps going,

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 2>there is a chance that the opening weekend globally could

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>be as big as eight hundred or nine hundred million.

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:50.240
<v Speaker 2>If they open this to almost a billion opening weekend,

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:52.640
<v Speaker 2>we haven't seen that since Endgame.

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 3>We haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>Numbers like this is the craziest shit. So if if

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 2>it opens bigger than three point fifty seven domestically, it

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>will be Endgame domestically, And if it opens bigger than

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.239
<v Speaker 2>to sixty, it will be No Way Home, which will

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 2>be make it the second biggest opening domestically of all time.

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it will be No Way Home at this point.

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 2>The word of mouth is incredible. I'm I'm currently recording

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:20.280
<v Speaker 2>this in Florida, and I was at City Walk yesterday

0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and they No Joke had twenty screenings of this. They

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 2>had the XD, the four XD, the three D, Like

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 2>every single hour there was a different way to watch

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Spider Man, and when I was looking, they were all

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking packed. So this is a little bit of a

0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 2>juice builder for Marvel.

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.160
<v Speaker 3>But also, Jason, does this raise an issue?

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Does this start to make it look like Marvel can't

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>make a billion dollars without Sony? Honestly, if this happened

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 2>without Spider Man, which means in this case, you know,

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.760
<v Speaker 2>without Sony, I mean you have to wonder.

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens with Doomsday this I mean Avengers

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>endgame preview box office number was with sixty million, so

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Brand New Day is already sky that with seventy c

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's crazy, very interesting indicators there. I think, Listen,

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man has been He's the guy. We know that,

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>we know that he's the iconic character in Marvel and

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>has been for eighty years, seventy years or whatever it is.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's really about the character, less about Sony.

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think you're right, it does indicate that this

0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>marriage between Marvel and Sony is going to continue for

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 1>a while, because I don't think I think there's just

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>too much incentive for them to keep going. Sony does

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>not have the other characters that make the world feel

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 1>lived in for Peter Records, and it's fascinating. Now here's

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>some other stuff that's fascinating. Brand New Day is playing

0:57:57.320 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>on zero, yes, zero, Imax. I'm so glad you brought

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>this up, Jason, because my zero this means any vision

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>could fucking work for these bloody fuck I don't want.

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>It to work. I think it's stupid. But this movie

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 2>is currently not playing in Imax screens. This is the

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 2>soft launching. You can make a billion dollar movie without

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 2>having Imax, which is the ultimate expensive premium format upgrade ticket.

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>So the Odyssey is still booming. It's gonna end up

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>making a bill globally for sure. It's because of that

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 2>three week Imax exclusive. So I'm so glad you brought

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that up because I think that those Disney execs who

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 2>came up with Infinity Vision are rubbing their hands together

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:44.840
<v Speaker 2>right now. Also, Jason, could this be the first time

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 2>that a director has had the biggest opening of their

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 2>lives and also a cancelation in the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, it can't be said enough. The movie

0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that just set the all time previews record and is

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>all the way towards perhaps a billion dollars in box

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>office and you know, half a billion dollars globally over

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>an opening weekend. Is doing it without any Imax screens.

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>To your point, I mean, Marvel vision could work vision

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the fuck vision. It could possibly work. It

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 1>could work crazy.

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.959
<v Speaker 2>This is a crazy week for Marvel news and other news,

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 2>but I mean we're a week for Marvel fans. This

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 2>is it's kind of popping off, honestly, like and I

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 2>think it's only going to get bigger leading into D

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:41.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>The big question now is can James got in his.

0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 2>Clay Face movie, which and Joel talked about. It looks cute,

0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:52.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a horror movie, we get it. Can can he

0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>come back and do some crazy billion dollar like obsession

0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 2>style take for that movie because other oh wise, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how much juice the Gun has left within it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of too late now. The train tracks

1:00:07.400 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 1>have been laid, and the train tracks should have been

1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.400
<v Speaker 1>leading towards Justice League and they're not. And some of

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this I think was outside of his control because he

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<v Speaker 1>never had Batman in house or didn't have a plan

1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 1>to integrate Matt Reeves's version of the character into the universe,

1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.920
<v Speaker 1>or it just didn't have a plan to launch Batman

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<v Speaker 1>in any significant way beyond Brave and the Bold, which

1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 1>we've heard nothing about since its first announcement. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was a everything that everything that DC

1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 1>put out has been good. I enjoyed the trailer for Lanterns.

1:00:43.760 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I think the clay Face trailer is good. But to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, it's kind of it's a variety of salads

1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 1>when their direct competitor is bringing out like steak and

1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Koko van and sushi, et cetera. So I'm concerned for James.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Yeah, wells, you know, listen, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Crazy's gonna be Matt Reeves's universe in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>May I would love to say of the next week's

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of X Ray Vision, we've got House of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dry and we've got Spider Man, Brand New Day, Roundtable,

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<v Speaker 1>X Men ninety seven, all that and more. Thanks for

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