WEBVTT - Rachel Reeves 

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<v Speaker 1>In the long history of the British government, only one

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<v Speaker 1>woman has served as Chancellor of the Exchequer, in effect

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of the Treasury of the British government. That

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<v Speaker 1>woman is Rachel Reeves. Had a chance at Davos recently

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down with Rachel Reeves and talk about her

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<v Speaker 1>role as Chancellor of the Exchequer and the British economy.

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<v Speaker 1>In your position, Chancellor of the Exchequer, you're the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States or the Secretary of Treasury. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but also the head of the officer management and budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not prepare the budget for the government? I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do also prepare the budget.

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<v Speaker 3>We have an independent forecaster who provides the forecast and

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<v Speaker 3>costs the policies that we put forward. But what is

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<v Speaker 3>in the budget is my choice, the policies that I

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<v Speaker 3>put forward, and we have an annual budget. I delivered

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<v Speaker 3>the last of my budgets in November last year in England.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to balance the budget or you can

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<v Speaker 1>borrow money?

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<v Speaker 3>You can borrow money, but we're reducing that. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that it is a good fiscal or economic policy

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<v Speaker 3>to just constantly borrow, especially to pay for day to

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<v Speaker 3>day spending, and for the last few years, like many

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<v Speaker 3>countries including the US, we've been running a budget deficit

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<v Speaker 3>of around five percent of GDP. We are now bringing

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<v Speaker 3>that down steadily. It will be just over four percent

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<v Speaker 3>I think this year, then falling to about three and

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<v Speaker 3>a half percent. We've got the fastest rate of fiscal

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<v Speaker 3>consolidation going on in the UK of any country in

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<v Speaker 3>the G seven. Our debt burden as a share of

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<v Speaker 3>GDP is not too far of one hundred percent. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to bring that down. I also want to bring

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<v Speaker 3>down the cost of servicing that debt because at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>one in ten pounds of everything government spends is actually

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<v Speaker 3>on debt interest and so reducing government borrowing costs, which

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<v Speaker 3>we managed to achieve last year, and reducing the debt

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<v Speaker 3>burden as a share of GDP are two important priorities

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>In the budget you've proposed You propose a tax increase?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that very popular to doing? Will you get it approved?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you control the parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>We do have a big majority in Parliament. When I

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<v Speaker 3>became chancellor, I inherited a bit of a mess, A

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a mess fiscally and in terms of economic performance.

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<v Speaker 3>And the cost of living, and the previous government had

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<v Speaker 3>made a number of spending commitments without saying where the

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<v Speaker 3>money was going to come from, and what is called

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<v Speaker 3>the reserve, which is set aside for emergencies, had been

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<v Speaker 3>spent three or four times over just three months into

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<v Speaker 3>the financial year.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to put that right.

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<v Speaker 3>That required a number of adjustments, both on spending and

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<v Speaker 3>indeed on tax. When you come in as a business

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<v Speaker 3>leader and you're taking on a business that has not

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<v Speaker 3>been working well, that is not living within its means,

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<v Speaker 3>does not have a clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Plan, you have to sort it out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had to fix that mess now on being

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<v Speaker 3>able to pursue my plans, my plans for growth and

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<v Speaker 3>to ease the cost of living challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>But that did.

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<v Speaker 3>Require quite a big repair job to put the public

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<v Speaker 3>finances on a solid footing.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, as we look.

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<v Speaker 1>In this calendar year, do you think the UK will

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<v Speaker 1>grow at two or three percent or so? What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of projections are you for GDP growth?

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<v Speaker 3>Real GDP growth expected to be around one and a

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<v Speaker 3>half percent. Obviously nominal all that would be around three

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<v Speaker 3>and a half percent a year. I want growth to

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<v Speaker 3>be faster than that. Last year. I think we'll come

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<v Speaker 3>out as the second fastest growing economy in the G

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<v Speaker 3>seven when all the numbers are totted up. But none

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<v Speaker 3>of the economies in the G seven are growing as

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<v Speaker 3>fast as we could, as fast as I think our

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<v Speaker 3>potential is. And that's why as a government, growth is

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<v Speaker 3>our number one priority for the Prime Minister Kirstarma and myself,

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<v Speaker 3>and our industrial strategy backing sectors like AI and tech,

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<v Speaker 3>clean energy, life sciences and our defense sectors focus on

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<v Speaker 3>stability to bring down interest rates and inflation. Investment both

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<v Speaker 3>public and private in infrastructure, including ambitious plans for Oxford

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<v Speaker 3>and Bridge and also in the North of England, and

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<v Speaker 3>then deregulation, reforming our planning system to make it easier

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<v Speaker 3>to get things done in Britain. I think we'll start

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<v Speaker 3>seeing the benefits of that payoff this year now.

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<v Speaker 1>Many wealthy people who are not British by birth, who

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<v Speaker 1>have moved to England in recent years, maybe to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>their local countries taxes, have found that recently the non

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<v Speaker 1>dom taxes have increased dramatically in the UK and they

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<v Speaker 1>have left the UK. Has that been a problem having

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy people leave the UK or it's not a big problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We want Britain to be a magnet for wealth and

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<v Speaker 3>talent entrepreneurs from around the world. We did have quite

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<v Speaker 3>an anachronistic system that if your father was born abroad

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<v Speaker 3>you could claim a non domicile for tax purpose in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK. That wasn't fair. It's not a rule that

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<v Speaker 3>any other country has, so the previous government and now

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<v Speaker 3>this government have got rid of that. We also made

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<v Speaker 3>some changes around trusts and inheritance tax, although in the

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<v Speaker 3>budget just in November we relaxed some of those rules

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<v Speaker 3>so that for a flat fee you could take trusts

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<v Speaker 3>out of your inheritance tax. So we have listened to

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<v Speaker 3>feedback from wealthy individuals who perhaps want to make Britain

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<v Speaker 3>that home, or have already made at Britain their home.

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<v Speaker 3>We've also introduced a very generous scheme for people coming

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<v Speaker 3>to the UK wanting to bring foreign income and gains

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<v Speaker 3>to the UK. Previously they were taxed at normal rates

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<v Speaker 3>of income tax. We have reduced that to try and

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<v Speaker 3>encourage people to bring not just themselves and their talent,

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<v Speaker 3>but their wealth to the UK. Britain is an open

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<v Speaker 3>trading economy and we have to be to be successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Open to business, open to investment, open to trade, and

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<v Speaker 3>open to talents.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the world has seen enormous amounts of growth in

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<v Speaker 1>the technology space, particularly AI, and you've mentioned quantum is

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<v Speaker 1>also coming along. But as you look back over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, if you grow up in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK or the EU, you don't really relied to get

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<v Speaker 1>through the day on European built technologies. The technologies that

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<v Speaker 1>are often the ones that people use are built in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Why do you think that the entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK and the EU haven't yet built technologies

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<v Speaker 1>that the whole world says we need that technology, We

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<v Speaker 1>need to have Facebook or our Google product or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Is there any inherent reason you think it

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<v Speaker 1>is or just been bad luck for the last X

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<v Speaker 1>number of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think as a really good challenge, and your

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<v Speaker 3>amazing tech companies like Google and Facebook and Apple, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have one of those in the UK or

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<v Speaker 3>indeed in Europe. Were very good adopting new technologies in

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<v Speaker 3>the US and that spurs productivity growth, which is beginning

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<v Speaker 3>to pick up now in the UK. But we've also

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<v Speaker 3>got some really exciting businesses on the frontier of new

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<v Speaker 3>technologies like quantum and digital processing. So I think there

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<v Speaker 3>are some exciting opportunities and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>we want to do with Oxford Cambridge is to create

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<v Speaker 3>a big link between those two universities. There's sixty or

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<v Speaker 3>seventy miles apart, but there's no direct train link between them.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some great towns and cities on that route

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<v Speaker 3>between those two cities. We want to bring them together

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<v Speaker 3>and create our version, a British version of Silicon Valley

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK, where we can really capture the creativity

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<v Speaker 3>and the imagination of British founders and help them grow

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<v Speaker 3>their businesses here. One of the challenges they've had in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK so loads of startups, but as they scale

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<v Speaker 3>up the drift towards America. There are forms we're making,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly pension reforms, to unlock long term patient capital, to

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<v Speaker 3>back venture capital, to back private equity in the UK

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<v Speaker 3>that is really exciting. We'll keep more of those businesses here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're putting a load of tax incentives as well in

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<v Speaker 3>the budget to back founders and entrepreneurs, and we're increasing

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<v Speaker 3>the tax incentives to stay listed in the UK. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing some exciting things and I do think that

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<v Speaker 3>that will reap dividends too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the United States, there's been a well publicized

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<v Speaker 1>feud between the President of the United States and the

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<v Speaker 1>chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, and in a fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the President is saying, I should have more influence

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<v Speaker 1>on what interest rates are. Would it ever occur to

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<v Speaker 1>the Chancellor of the ex checker to tell the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bank of England lower interest rates or you

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<v Speaker 1>just don't do that in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>No. Since nineteen ninety seven, actually the previous Labor Chancellor,

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<v Speaker 3>Gordon Brown, granted operational independence to the Bank of England.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Parliament that sets the inflation target that's two percent

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<v Speaker 3>for the UK, and then the bank have the tools

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<v Speaker 3>of interest rates to meet that target. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked at the Bank of England. I have huge

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<v Speaker 3>respect for that institution and believe that the way that

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<v Speaker 3>we have good policy making is to take the politics

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<v Speaker 3>out of interest rate decisions. And I think that serves

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<v Speaker 3>the UK economy well. We set fiscal policy as a

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<v Speaker 3>government and then the Bank of England set monetary policy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that operational independence for central banks is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things that preserves stability and gives confidence

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<v Speaker 3>to people to invest.

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<v Speaker 1>Now ten former Chancellors of the Exchequer became Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>including Winston Churchill among others. So if you ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>about the possibility that you might follow in their path

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<v Speaker 1>and be the first woman to be Chancellor of the

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<v Speaker 1>Exchecker and then Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that politicians often say I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>do that job, but I really don't want to do

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<v Speaker 3>that job. The job that I've always wanted to do

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<v Speaker 3>in politics is to be Chancellor of the Exchequer. Before

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<v Speaker 3>I became an MP, I worked in banking and financial services.

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<v Speaker 3>Has started my career as an economist at the Bank

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<v Speaker 3>of England and for me, being Chancellor is my absolute

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<v Speaker 3>dream job and it's the only job I want in politics.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a bit about your background. Where did you

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<v Speaker 1>grow up?

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in Lewisham in southeast London. My mum

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<v Speaker 3>and dad were primary school teachers. I went to my

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<v Speaker 3>local state school and it was when I was at

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<v Speaker 3>school that I got involved in politics, and the reason

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<v Speaker 3>being when I was at secondary school, our sixth form

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<v Speaker 3>you know where we did, you know our final exams

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<v Speaker 3>was a couple of prefabricated huts in the playground, which

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<v Speaker 3>was basically freezing cold in the winter or baking hot

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<v Speaker 3>in the summer. Our school library was turned into a

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<v Speaker 3>classroom because there were more students than there was space,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were never enough textbooks to go around. And

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<v Speaker 3>I felt very strongly that the governments that we had

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<v Speaker 3>then in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties in the UK,

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<v Speaker 3>conservative governments didn't care very much about schools like mine,

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<v Speaker 3>the community in which I grew up, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to do something about it. And at the time, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the leader of the Labor Party. The opposition party at

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<v Speaker 3>the time was Tony Blair, and I heard him say

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<v Speaker 3>that his three priorities were education, education, education, and that

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<v Speaker 3>really resonated with me because I believe that talent is

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<v Speaker 3>equally distributed, but opportunity isn't. But education can give everybody

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunities that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Deserve to fulfill their potential.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's why I got involved in politics and

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<v Speaker 3>why I got involved in the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>And you go to college.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the third person at my school to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Oxford University. It wasn't a traditional route for people

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<v Speaker 3>from my school to go to university at all. Let

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<v Speaker 3>alone to a university like Oxford. But I remember two

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<v Speaker 3>years before I applied to go to Oxford, my head

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<v Speaker 3>teacher at school giving an assembly and said, today two

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<v Speaker 3>girls from our school are in Oxford doing an interview

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the universe there and we should all

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<v Speaker 3>keep our fingers crossed for them all day because it

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<v Speaker 3>would be an amazing achievement for our school. And I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never thought about something like that, but I'm one

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<v Speaker 3>of the top performing girls in my year. Perhaps in

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years time that might be something I

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<v Speaker 3>could do. And it just so deceived in my mind

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<v Speaker 3>that that was a possibility for someone like me and

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<v Speaker 3>for a girl from the school I was at. And

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<v Speaker 3>so two years later I did put in my application

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<v Speaker 3>and I got a place to read philosophy, politics and

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<v Speaker 3>economics at Oxford University, and later I went on to

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<v Speaker 3>do a master's degree in economics at the London School

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<v Speaker 3>of Economics. So I've been very blessed to have a

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<v Speaker 3>very good education from some of the best universities and

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<v Speaker 3>colleges in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>After you got that education, did you sort of take

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<v Speaker 1>a job at the Bank of England? Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, my macroeconomics tutor at Oxford. He said that

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<v Speaker 3>the Bank of England was a finishing school for economists

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, yeah, that sounds like what I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to do. And so I had an offer from

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<v Speaker 3>an investment bank, and I had an offer from the

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<v Speaker 3>Bank of England, and I chose the Bank of England

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<v Speaker 3>because I wanted to be a proper economist and also

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<v Speaker 3>I've always strongly believed in public service, and so we're

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<v Speaker 3>working for the Bank of England. Was a great job

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<v Speaker 3>for me as my first job after university.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long were you there?

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<v Speaker 3>I was there for just under six years. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>actually whilst I was there as well, I had a

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<v Speaker 3>brief succonment to Washington, where I worked at the British

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<v Speaker 3>Embassy as the second Economic Secretary, and that was in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two, two thousand and three, so again

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<v Speaker 3>a time of huge volatility in the world, not long

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<v Speaker 3>after nine to eleven when the UK and US went

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<v Speaker 3>to war in Iraq, and so it was a fascinating

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<v Speaker 3>time to be in Washington and I was reporting back

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<v Speaker 3>to the UK Treasury and to the Bank and liaising

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<v Speaker 3>with the US economic team.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so after you finished that tour of duty, you

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately decided to run for parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I went and worked in the private sector for

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<v Speaker 3>a bit. I worked for Halifax Bank of Scotland, which

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<v Speaker 3>is now part of Lloyd's Banking Group. I worked in

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<v Speaker 3>retail banking, which is what took me to Leeds where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm now a Member of Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you win the first time you ran?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it was the third time actually that I ran.

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<v Speaker 3>I ran in what is traditionally a safe Conservative seat

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<v Speaker 3>in the south of England, in Bromley, which is close

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<v Speaker 3>to where I grew up. But then I got this

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<v Speaker 3>job up in Yorkshire, moved up there, a safer seat

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<v Speaker 3>became available and I stood there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we after you ran the first time he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win, and the second time he didn't win, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say maybe politics is not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I stood it was sort of like

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a for me. It was the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I had done anything publicly political.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd always been along to my local branch meetings of

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<v Speaker 3>my party, gone along to Labor Party conference, but I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never had a sort of public platform for my politics.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, well, I'll give it a go. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what it's like and see if it's something that

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to do in the longer term. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was very I was young when I first died

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<v Speaker 3>for parliament. I think I was about twenty six. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the following year, sadly the MPI stood against he

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<v Speaker 3>died suddenly and so there was a by election, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I stood again for my party. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ten that I first got elected to parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was two hundred and fifty years ago that

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<v Speaker 1>my country issued a declaration of independence and said to

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<v Speaker 1>your country, we're breaking away. Do you think if the

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<v Speaker 1>British government had said, look forget the taxes were imposing,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be friends, the UK would still be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, or the US would be still part

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<v Speaker 1>of the UK. And would that make the world a

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<v Speaker 1>better place? Or you're happy with what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to go back to two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty he is and try and rewrite that period of history.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am really proud that the strong ties, the

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<v Speaker 3>cultural ties, the family ties, the business ties, the military

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<v Speaker 3>and intelligence ties between our country. There's no greater partnership

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<v Speaker 3>in the world than that between the UK UK and

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<v Speaker 3>the US, and that's been true under different prime ministers,

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<v Speaker 3>different presidents. We've got a very strong relationship between my

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister Kirstama and your President Donald Trump. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that serves both of our countries well. Doesn't mean always

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<v Speaker 3>going to agree on everything, and that's the thing about

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<v Speaker 3>the closest of friends. You don't always have to agree

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<v Speaker 3>on everything. You can exchange views and that is a

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<v Speaker 3>healthy thing to do, but recognizing that you know what

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<v Speaker 3>binds us together is so much stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the United States, we often have a thing

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<v Speaker 1>called c Span, and on C SPAN we often show

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister's I guess the debates are.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister's questions questions Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've always wondered does a prime minister really know

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<v Speaker 1>the answers to those questions?

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<v Speaker 3>So Prime Minister's Questions is a big weekly event in

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<v Speaker 3>our Parliament and every week, for half an hour thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes, the Prime Minister takes six questions from the

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<v Speaker 3>leader of the opposition, two questions from the third party,

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<v Speaker 3>the Liberal Democrats, and then questions from assortment of backbench

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<v Speaker 3>MPs on both sides, and some of the questions. The

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister will have an idea what the MP is

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<v Speaker 3>going to ask because it's one of his own MPs

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<v Speaker 3>the leader of the opposition, and the opposition MP's no idea,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the Prime Minister has to be really well prepared.

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<v Speaker 3>You can sort of have a guess of what the

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<v Speaker 3>leader of the Opposition is going to go on. We

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<v Speaker 3>have got a pretty adversarial political set up in the

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<v Speaker 3>UK in the House of Commons, you've got the Green

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<v Speaker 3>benches on both sides, you've got big table in the middle,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are two sword lengths apart from the opposition.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have swords with us in Parliament. But the

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<v Speaker 3>idea is, you know, you spar with words, not with

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<v Speaker 3>not with physical weapons. And it does get quite heated

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<v Speaker 3>the exchanges.

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<v Speaker 1>In the US we have an aging population and without

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<v Speaker 1>immigration very much now our population is aging much more

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<v Speaker 1>than it has in the past. Does the UK have

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<v Speaker 1>an aging population issue as well or not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we do. I don't think it is stark as

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<v Speaker 3>in some other countries. I think that though immigration policy

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<v Speaker 3>it is a challenge for all Western countries to get

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<v Speaker 3>that balance right. And in Britain we are building an

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<v Speaker 3>immigration system and a visa system that is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be all about and is all about attracting the best

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<v Speaker 3>talent into the UK because not just a numbers game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the quality of the workforce that you're bringing into

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<v Speaker 3>the UK. And we believe if you're attracting the top packer,

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<v Speaker 3>demics and researchers, the top entrepreneurs, the people who went

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<v Speaker 3>to the best universities in the world, you're not displacing jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're doing is creating more wealth and opportunity. And

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, we're doing a number of visa waivers

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<v Speaker 3>for fee waivers for the top talent in the world

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<v Speaker 3>to come to the UK and we want to send

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<v Speaker 3>out the message loud and clear that Britain wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be a magnet for the best talent in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Respect to the economy, here is it your view that

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<v Speaker 1>the UK economy is going to grow somewhat like the

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<v Speaker 1>EU economy. You're not going to outgrow we are.

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<v Speaker 3>We are outmat Last year we outgrew Italy, France and

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<v Speaker 3>Germany and I think that will continue to be the

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<v Speaker 3>same this year. You know, we are an open trading

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<v Speaker 3>economy with trade deals with emerging markets around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>the best trade deal with the US.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got great.

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<v Speaker 3>Innovation going on through our universeities and with our entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 3>and founders. In the UK we are as services based economy,

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<v Speaker 3>but also with amazing advanced manufacturing as well, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think we are set up for success in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>For foreign investors, people who live in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>or on the continent in Europe or China or Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should they invest their money in the UK? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the growth rates good enough to attract capital? Are the

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<v Speaker 1>regulations fair enough and easy enough? Why should somebody invest

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the UK stock market was one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>performing stock markets in the world last year. The foot

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<v Speaker 3>Sea one hundred went up by just over twenty one percent,

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<v Speaker 3>so pretty good returns on your investment. We have got

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK four of the top universities in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>with some amazing businesses spinning out of those universities in

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<v Speaker 3>life sciences, in quantum in AI, increasingly in the defense

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<v Speaker 3>sector and dual use technologies. Tons of exciting stuff happening

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<v Speaker 3>in the UK. We've got some amazing unicorn businesses that

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<v Speaker 3>have started and are now scaling up in the UK,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're making it easier for businesses to list and

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<v Speaker 3>to raise finance in Britain. So this is an exciting time.

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<v Speaker 3>You think about all of the growth sectors in the

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<v Speaker 3>economy today and those are all areas where Britain has

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<v Speaker 3>real advantages, real strengths. And so that's why I think

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<v Speaker 3>that this is going to be Britain's year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really confident.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you do in your spare time? I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you can't be Chancellor of the Exchequer twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day, seven days a week. Are you an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>you collect anything? Do you have any hobbies? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do on the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've got two children who are aged twelve and ten,

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<v Speaker 3>so they keep me pretty busy when I'm not working

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<v Speaker 3>and I love spending time with them. I had a

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful time over Christmas the New Year where I got

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<v Speaker 3>to indulge in a bit more cooking, which I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a time for very much with the usual cut

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<v Speaker 3>and thrust of work and politics. Also a keen runner

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<v Speaker 3>and try and go running several times a week, and

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<v Speaker 3>very lucky, very blessed in London to live near the

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful royal parks in London and so make use of

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<v Speaker 3>running through those.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're running in the park, who people come up

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<v Speaker 1>to you and say lower taxes or anything like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Has that ever happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I try and go running quite early in the morning

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<v Speaker 3>to avoid that sort of thing and keep my head down.

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<v Speaker 1>And your children call you chancellor or they just call

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<v Speaker 1>you mom.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, mom is about the politest thing they'll call me.

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<v Speaker 3>They're wonderful children, and they absolutely keep me grounded. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got very strong views and very strong principles already themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm incredibly proud of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Final question is I've often thought the best titles in

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<v Speaker 1>the world for a job you can have are Supreme Allet, Commander,

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<v Speaker 1>President of the World Bank, Chief Justice of the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chancellor of the Exchequer. So do your friends call

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<v Speaker 1>you Rachel? They call you chancellor, miss xchecker. What do

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<v Speaker 1>your friends call you now that you're Chancellor of the exchecker?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just still Rachel to them. But the other day

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<v Speaker 3>I bumped into the head of six, our security service,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was with my twelve year old and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this woman is the head of six our

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<v Speaker 3>security service.

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<v Speaker 2>And my daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, that is a much cooler job than my mom's,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was certainly put in my place.

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