WEBVTT - How Will Tight End Depth Look vs. the Bears? | Bucs Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Good morning everybody. At its time, four Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>Insideer Live presented by Miller like Casey Phillips here with

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Smith and Man. This is kind of an unusual one.

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<v Speaker 1>We get to talk just the day before a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally there's a lot more that's gonna happen between now

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. But I guess that kind of can

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<v Speaker 1>mean that we know more than we normally do on

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<v Speaker 1>a Wednesday leading up to the game. Uh So, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot we're gonna talk about, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we always want to hear from you and what you

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<v Speaker 1>want us to be talking about, So put your questions

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the live video on Facebook for us to get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to answer those. I figured we'd start with

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<v Speaker 1>the positive news. There was another award. We stacked up

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of defensive ones last week. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is on the offensive side. Yeah, Tom Brady. Unsurprisingly, after

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<v Speaker 1>throwing five touchdown passes and three six and nine yards

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<v Speaker 1>and leading a seventeen point comeback and all that, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. After we had

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<v Speaker 1>all those defensive player awards last week. He has thirty

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<v Speaker 1>of those. Now, okay, not NFC has one NFC one,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has thirty one Offensive Player of the Week awards,

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<v Speaker 1>which is incredible. It's the most by anybody. Again, not surprisingly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like one and a half a season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you get excited when you get one, and this guy

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<v Speaker 1>has been stacking him them up multiple times per season

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. That's Yeah, that's a pretty incredible award.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And speaking of that, I know that he won

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<v Speaker 1>that award missing some key people on Sunday, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that has continued to be a storyline this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like earlier in the season, the injury bug had

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<v Speaker 1>hit a bunch of teams that you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>played the Broncos, we talked about that they were down

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<v Speaker 1>so many people, and the Bucks had really been able

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid that at least in the first few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it seems like kind of finally caught up

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<v Speaker 1>with them in at a very inopportune time when it's

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<v Speaker 1>a short week. Um, so, what what do we know

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<v Speaker 1>at this point about some of the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>in are out and what this could mean, especially for

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<v Speaker 1>this offense. Yeah, you know, you said, we're closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the game, so we know more, and we do. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that all the guys didn't practice the last two days.

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<v Speaker 1>They were really walk throughs, but still they didn't walk through.

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<v Speaker 1>So UM, that's certainly not very encouraging. Um, we won't

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<v Speaker 1>know until later today exactly who is out, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty scary picture. Uh. Your top four whiteouts

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<v Speaker 1>all have not practiced. That's Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Um, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Watson and Scottie Miller. And at the moment, what

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<v Speaker 1>you have on the roster is ready to go is

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden mckins and Cyril Grayson who was just promoted. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. There's two guys on the practice squad, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Pearson and uh a new one. His last name is Whitney.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that I've been blanking on at the moment. But

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<v Speaker 1>obviously those guys don't have any experience whatsoever. They could

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<v Speaker 1>be active or elevated for the game. That's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out later today. Um. You know, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I look at it. Uh. Three got three different people, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Arians and Todd Bowls and then Lavante David all

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<v Speaker 1>said one thing that was interesting this week after the comeback,

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<v Speaker 1>when they all said they wouldn't have won that game

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and Lavante said, the Bucks teams have pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much his entire career, wouldn't have won that game. And

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<v Speaker 1>they found a way to win that game, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have confidence, and you know, they figured it out and

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<v Speaker 1>they believed. I think they're gonna have to do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing this week if you want to get that

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<v Speaker 1>win and get to four and one against the good

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago team in Chicago. I still think there's a way

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<v Speaker 1>they can find a way to win. Even if all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys are out and Leonard four Nett and Lashawn

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<v Speaker 1>McCoy are out. Uh, it's just gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 1>power your way through this one and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>a long break before the next game and hopefully you

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<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of those guys back. So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be easy. But like you said, we

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<v Speaker 1>nobody was, you know, nobody was crying for us when

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<v Speaker 1>we played Denver and they had a bunch of injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and we played the Chargers and they had a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of injuries. I think this season is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a war of attrition and it's just our turn to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get through one. That's true, and um we

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<v Speaker 1>had a few people asked a question along these lines,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jamir had asked, um, should we look at free

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<v Speaker 1>agents for another weapon with all of the injuries, and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to also hear your thoughts on how the new

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<v Speaker 1>protocols and everything with COVID this year does affect that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Yeah, we were talking about this after

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<v Speaker 1>the game on Sunday, Um, when we started to see

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<v Speaker 1>this injury picture unfold, and there really is no way

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a Thursday game. There really was no option.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could sign somebody sure for future, for

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<v Speaker 1>the future, but there was no way to get somebody

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<v Speaker 1>ready in the building and ready by Thursday because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a seventy two hour period with the COVID testing protocol,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had to start on Monday. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they could get him in the building by Wednesday, but

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<v Speaker 1>by that point you're pretty much done with your preparations.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't really work them into the game plan at all.

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<v Speaker 1>So that really wasn't an option for this week, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what you said at the top. Because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>short week, it was it was particularly difficult. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>we just have to power through it. Now. If any

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<v Speaker 1>of these injuries proved to be more long term than Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're gonna have to start looking outside the building. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a few questions in a row about Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>Worth's um. You know, east I had asked just how

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<v Speaker 1>impressed we are with him. Richard had asked, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's gonna take to get him some offensive

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie of the Year consideration. That's tough for an offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're always gonna have quarterbacks out there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you justin Herbert is going to get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more attention than an offensive tackle, particularly because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when an offensive tackle is doing great, you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>saying his name very much. It's the opposite of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these other positions. So, um, he could be

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<v Speaker 1>the best rookie offensive rookie in the field this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it would be very difficult for him

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<v Speaker 1>to win that award. You never know, I suppose, but

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<v Speaker 1>he is playing really phenomenally well. He's playing like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran. He's handled some incredible pass rushers. He did

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<v Speaker 1>really well against Joey Bosa this past week. Bosa even

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<v Speaker 1>said that Bosa said after the game that this kid

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be really good. You start to see some

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<v Speaker 1>of these um analytics sites, you know, your your Football

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<v Speaker 1>Outsiders and and Pro Football Focus and things like that

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to give him a lot of love. And

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<v Speaker 1>not just in terms of rookies, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just all offensive lineman. He's playing very very well. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's also the case for a couple of other guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Alan mar Pett and Ryan Jenson. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line had his best game last Sunday, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like it's a fluke. It looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's sustainable. And we've been looking for this old

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<v Speaker 1>line to really come together for a while, put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of resources in it. I mean, think about all

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<v Speaker 1>the first round pick, two second round picks, a big

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<v Speaker 1>free agency acquisition in the third round pick in the

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<v Speaker 1>last four or five years to build this line, and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's really starting to come together. Okay. And Jermaine

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<v Speaker 1>had asked about our tight ends that he said, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think if one of them emerges as a star,

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<v Speaker 1>could you potentially see us getting rid of O J

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<v Speaker 1>or cam one of who No. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>what he's saying is because we have had so many.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we we do have a lot of tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends there. And then now with o J being out,

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<v Speaker 1>if some of these other guys step up in a

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<v Speaker 1>big way, do you think that that is a position

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<v Speaker 1>where maybe you trade somebody. I know that was a

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<v Speaker 1>talk before the season potentially, but now with o J

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<v Speaker 1>being out, just how that affects the tight end group overall? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a lot of tight ends anymore. We

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<v Speaker 1>have three of them. You have, I mean el Claire's

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<v Speaker 1>on I R so I guess he could come back

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have four. Uh uh. Oh. Claire is

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<v Speaker 1>not really the same type of tight end as O J.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Tanner Hudson. I mean, okay, if Tanner Hudson emerges

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<v Speaker 1>as a star, would we get rid of O J. Howard?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean possibly, But that's really asking quite a bit. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Gronkowski, we already know what he is. Really everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was was pretty was raving about what o J had

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<v Speaker 1>done and how much progress he had made, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was really working out nicely. He was really more of

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<v Speaker 1>the the receiving threat than Gronk was in the first

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<v Speaker 1>four games, and Cam Braid, you know, we know what

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<v Speaker 1>he is and we all love Cam and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>great player, but as one of the coaches said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the same tight end that O. G. Howard is.

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<v Speaker 1>So O. J. Howard is your best bet to really

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<v Speaker 1>get those downfield plays work. The seems beat people because

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<v Speaker 1>he's more athletic. He's he's really athletic for the size

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<v Speaker 1>that he is and fast, and you don't get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys That's why he's a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't find a lot of guys like that. So,

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<v Speaker 1>considering how well it was working out, I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be motivated to keep O. J. Howard around,

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<v Speaker 1>uh moving forward. And we don't know how long Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Gronkowski wants to play yet either, So I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the tight end depth isn't really quite

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<v Speaker 1>as incredible as that question seems. Deposit Okay Daniel had asked,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think this is going to be primarily a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive game on Thursday? Absolutely, That's the way I've been

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<v Speaker 1>writing about it all week. The Bears have a very

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<v Speaker 1>good defense, really good pass rushers, and the Cheam Hicks

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<v Speaker 1>and Khalil Mack and Robert Quinn, their inside linebackers Roquan

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Danny Travithon are really good. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough front seven. They've played very well defensively. The Buccaneers

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<v Speaker 1>have also played very well defensively. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>both teams are in the top ten, but by some

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<v Speaker 1>other metrics. Uh, some other metrics consider the Buccaneer's defense

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top one or two in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so yeah, considering how we are so banged up

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<v Speaker 1>on offense and have to probably Jerry Rigg a game

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<v Speaker 1>plan and the Bears have had their change at quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and are still trying to really get their offense in

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<v Speaker 1>a groove, whichever defense makes the bigger plays is probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win this game. And yeah, Shannisia asked, were you

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that Vaughan's number got called in the situation it

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<v Speaker 1>did for his touchdown in that game? Um? Not, not

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<v Speaker 1>as surprised as I would normally be, given that we

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<v Speaker 1>were down to two running backs at the time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was either Ronald Jones or him, and um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were. We were clearly in a I think

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of a shotgun. I think we were

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<v Speaker 1>clearly in a passing situation. It wasn't third down, it

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<v Speaker 1>was second down, but it was second and goal from

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<v Speaker 1>the nine, I think, and I feel like we were

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<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna throw and Keyshon had already shown that he

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<v Speaker 1>could that he could you know, serve as like a

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<v Speaker 1>third down type back. And you saw how well he

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<v Speaker 1>made that catch. I mean, that was not an easy catch.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rojo in that game had had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>balls he couldn't hang on too. So it's not it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't terribly surprising in the moment that he was in

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<v Speaker 1>there on it for that type of situation. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me that at the start of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely said yes. And we had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people asking about Tyler Johnson, what we've seen from him,

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<v Speaker 1>how big roll he's prepared to play. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen him at least get in for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of games now, but hasn't had his number called too much.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like this could be the game

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<v Speaker 1>that he really, you know, kind of shows improves you

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<v Speaker 1>know why they drafted him, Well, hopefully it will be

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<v Speaker 1>because that we may not have another option. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>may be your number one guy going into that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I mean the Bucks felt like they got

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<v Speaker 1>to steal when they got him in the fifth round,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was just so much wide receiver depth in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft that allowed that to happen. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone higher in some other drafts. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a talented guy and he you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just really really set back by his injury and

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<v Speaker 1>training camp and there was no no role for him

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense when the season started. So and then

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<v Speaker 1>once you get started with the season, your primary concern

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<v Speaker 1>is getting ready for the next game, not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is getting this rookie ready who's not part of the

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<v Speaker 1>game plan. So it was probably hard for him to advance,

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<v Speaker 1>but coach Arian says he has advanced and he's ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it. It's not too big for him now. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a talented guy and hopefully, uh this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll make the most of a shot here, just like

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<v Speaker 1>Keishan did in the last game. Okay, well that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it for us. On this edition of Buccaneers Insider

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<v Speaker 1>Live presented by Miller Lte. Thanks to all of you

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<v Speaker 1>guys for tuning in, Thanks for those amazing questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back here next Wednesday, hopefully talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>great game that we got to see in Chicago. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you then