1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Dori with you. 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Rich Martini back with us, an award winning filmmaker and 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: best selling author. After the close friend that died in 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: his arms and then came to visit him with members 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: of his family, he started writing about how it possible 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: it is to continue his conversation with someone who is 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: on the other side. And he's done a great job. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: He's got a number of books out. His websites are 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: all linked up at Coast tocoastdam dot com. We're going 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: to talk with Rich about the afterlife for the first 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: half of this hour, and then his latest work on 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Amelia Earhart, who again disappeared in nineteen thirty seven. Mister Martini, 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back, George. 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: What a treat to hear your voice. Happy New Year, 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: my friend. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: I always love running into you at events or wherever 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: we end up being. You're such a delightful guy. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 3: Well, and what's always funny about our encounters is they're 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: always an unusual places that are coming out of an elevator, 21 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: walking up the stone and I always do a triple 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: take when I see you because you are really one 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: of life's delights. I really enjoy hearing your voice and 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: seeing your face. George, You're just really a wonderful person. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I think of you often whenever I watch the Christmas 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: movie It's a Wonderful Life. There's a scene that makes 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: me think about you. Do you remember what that scene. 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: Was, Well, it's my uncle Martini, who's in this Who's 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: in the movie quite a few times, you know, that's 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: that's the guy who owns the bar, the Martinis. And 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: then that's the guy who George helps into a house 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: in potters Well, it wasn't potters Field then, but that's 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 3: the name of the guy. So of course Frank Capra, 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: who was an Italian and immigrant, he you know, that 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: was something that he remembered, you know, Italian immigrants living 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: in poverty and then trying to make their way into 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: the world. Great story, Frank Capra. Do you know have 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: you ever heard of how Frank Capra came across that story? 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: No? 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 3: Well, apparently, and according to his autobiography Name of the Title, 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: he says that he was reluctant to go to work 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: after he won an oscar, and so he kept telling 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: people I'm not feeling well. I don't want to go 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: to work. I'm just not up for it. And eventually 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: he started getting sick and the doctors came to see him, 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: and they didn't know what was wrong with him. And 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: then one day a guy showed up in his room. 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: He said it was a bald guy. He'd never seen 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: him before. It was a short guy. And he started 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: berating Capra and he said to him, look, I know 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: you're faking it. I know you're in bed here, but listen, 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: there's a war out there and you've got to go 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: make people laugh. And he just yelled at him until 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: he finally got out of bed. And then the guy 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: left and he went to the butler who worked at 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: this house, said who is that guy? He was like, 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: what guy? And so he called up his screenwriting partner 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: and they went off to two bunch of Palms and 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 3: they wrote this story about an angel who comes and 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: changes your life. And so that's kind of where that 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: came from. 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: And it wasn't a real hit at the movies. 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: No, no, it was a failure at the movies. And 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: it wasn't until they forgot to do the copyright where 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: people started showing it because they didn't they didn't copyrighted 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: any of the scenes, and so it was free to 67 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, run on Christmas Eve. So they started running 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: it on Christmas Eve, and that's how it became so famous. 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: And then somewhere along the line, this is the movie 70 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Professor Hat, you know, where they figured out how to 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: copyright some of the music. And so that's why you 72 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: don't see it that often anymore because now it costs 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: them money to actually show it anyway, you know. Speaking 74 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: of the afterlife, George, you know, I do this podcast 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: with Jennifer Schaeffer called Hacking the Afterlife, and today we 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: just happened to do a session. And what I do 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: when I start our podcast is I say to Jennifer, well, 78 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: who's here? Who wants to talk to us from the 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: other side. Jennifer Shaffer is like a a Fox is 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: doing a series about her, but she's like a cell 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: phone to the other side. That's what I consider her 82 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: to be. And you're not gonna believe who she said 83 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: was there. She said, George, Nori's mother is here. 84 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, my mother's not on the other side. 85 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: Yet, no, but it's your her higher self. So it's 86 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 3: the idea of because we only bring a portion of 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: our conscious energy to a lifetime. This is what the 88 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: research shows. 89 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: She's ninety six, by the way. 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: Well bless her heart. I had no idea, but the 91 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: idea is and of course I looked it up after 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: the show to see and I realized it was her 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: higher self coming forward. I know this sounds weird to 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: the audience, but this is what people report. So you 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: can see someone in a dream, for example, who's still 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 3: on the planet, but you might see them off stage 97 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: and they're usually like translucent. But in this case, she 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: just came forward to say how much she loves you 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: and supports you. 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna tear me up. Chie, You're gonna tear me up. 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: I try, but listen. I had to mention it. And 102 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: the other person that came through in today's podcast was 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: the dog that I used to walk uh for Robert town, 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: the screenwriter, the guy who wrote Chinatown. I spent three 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 3: years as his assistant, and mostly I walked Hira, his dog, 106 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: and sometimes Hira shows up and I just want to say, 107 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: before Robert passed last year, he asked me what I 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: was doing. I told her about it. He didn't believe it. 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: And so we did a session and he was trying 110 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: to get people to come through, and he wasn't quite 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: buying that these people were talking to him until his 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: dog showed up, and the dog reminded him of something 113 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: that only the dog would know. The day that he 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: challenged a buffalo on Catalina Island and when Jennifer said that, 115 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Robert was in shock and realized there's only one other 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: person besides him that was there when that happened. It 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: was Hira. And so since then, Hirah has come through 118 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: an animal on the other side and told us things 119 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: about animals. And I'll just repeat what he said this evening, 120 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: and I think it's important to hear. And what he 121 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: said was animals understand how incarnation works, but humans do not. 122 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 4: And he said, we understand when our time is up 123 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: on the stage, and it's like we're aware that it's 124 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: time for us to go, but we know we're just 125 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: going off stage. 126 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: And we eventually will come back and we will find you. 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: And what he was trying to tell me was they 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: find us animal. We think that we find animals, but 129 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: the animals are the ones who influence our higher selves. 130 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: Just like what I said a few minutes seconds ago, 131 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: our higher selves to go to the pound, to go 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 3: look for the animal. And I can tell you hundreds 133 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: of people have said to me, I just knew I 134 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: saw this dog, or I saw this cat and the 135 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, the cat like jumped into my arms. I'm 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: sure you've had that experience. 137 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: Jordan, absolutely, And tell me about that experience or your 138 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: friend who died in your arms. 139 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: What happened? Welllwana Andrews, it's it's kind of it's really 140 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: uncanny because I was not a flip side guy. He 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: was not an afterlife guy. And Lawana was an actress 142 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: who had done one hundred different TV shows and movies, 143 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: and she was an easy writer. We were very close 144 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: and we did we did movies together, and we were 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: together for twenty years. And so when she passed away, 146 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: she started visiting me. And at first I thought, oh 147 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: my gosh, that must be wishful thinking. But then other 148 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: people were saying the exact same things that I was saying. 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: It seeing it's seeing her, and so at some point 150 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: I thought, I'm in denial. I just don't want to 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: believe it's true. However, if she can come and visit me, 152 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: how do I go and visit her, and she had 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: been a lifelong Buddhist, so I thought, oh, maybe Buddhism 154 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: is the answer. And I spent some time with Robert Thurman, 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: UMA's dad, who was a Buddhist monk at one point 156 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: in his life, and we traveled through Indian Tibet to 157 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: get and that opened up a whole door for me. 158 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: But it wasn't what I was experiencing, which was seeing 159 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: her literally she It wasn't like she vanished into a 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: wisp of smoke or something. She was literally on the 161 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: other side. And so from that I ran into the 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: work of Michael Newton, where Michael Newton was a hypnotherapist 163 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and he had seven thousand reports before 164 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 3: he published Journey of Souls, and in them he talked 165 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: about something that Luana had mentioned she before she passed. 166 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: She told me she had this recurring dream that she 167 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: was in a classroom in the afterlife. She called it 168 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: in another universe, where she saw people dressed in white 169 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: and they were talking about things. And then in Michael 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: Newton's book, I saw a chapter where a guy was 171 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: talking about that during his session, and I thought, oh, 172 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: I think I'll make a documentary about this guy. So 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: I called up Michael Newton's office. They said, well, he's retired, 174 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: but you can come to Chicago and film our or conference. 175 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: And I did that. But I met Michael and he said, 176 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: I'll give you my last interview he did, which is 177 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: the movie Flip Side and the book Flip Side, and 178 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: he talks about his lifelong work doing this, which I 179 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: thought was fascinating, but of course I didn't quite understand 180 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: it until he suggested that I do a session. So 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: I did one of these four hour hypnotherapy sessions where 182 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: everything that has been described to me happened to me, 183 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: and it included seeing Luana, visiting her classroom, seeing and 184 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: it was startling because when I walked into her classroom 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: in my mind's eye in another universe, she looked at 186 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: me like, what are you doing here? Like I don't 187 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: know why you're here. And so to make it more interesting, 188 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: a couple of years later, I met Scott de Tamble, 189 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: who's a hypnotherapist out here, and he was like, hey, 190 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: let's do another session. Why don't you and I do. 191 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: I thought, great, let's see if all that stuff was 192 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: made up or pretend. So he started counting me down 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 3: again two years later. But what happened was, as I 194 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 3: went into the flip side, I was twenty seconds later. 195 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: I was with Lawana in her classroom on the other side, 196 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: and she was apologizing to a teacher profoundly, like saying, 197 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry my friend dirrupted his class. But the 198 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: teacher was unusual, and I've written the book close to 199 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: counts of the flip Side kind where I included his story. 200 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: But he was like green. He was clearly not a human. 201 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: He was about ten feet tall. And I now I'm 202 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: waking up twenty seconds later, but two years later in 203 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: real time. But I'm in his classroom and he's looking 204 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: at me. He's like, well, what's your question, buddy, And 205 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: so I said, is it accurate what I said when 206 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: I was talking about your classroom being the healing light 207 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: of the universe? And he said, yes, you were accurate. 208 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: So since then, George, I've been doing guided meditations with 209 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: people where I spend ninety minutes to two hours with them, 210 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: usually answer where we just have a conversation. I ask 211 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: them to imagine themselves in a boat on a river 212 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: a Beatles song, and from there I found I can 213 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: ask questions to their guides, their teachers. Sometimes relatives show 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: up and talk to us. It's always fascinating and it's 215 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: the weird amazing part of it, George, is that I 216 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: try to do things that aren't in the research. So 217 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: I'll ask this person, can we visit your kashak library? 218 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: Which is an unusual idea to go visit a library 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: and then pull out a book of their lives. I 220 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: don't know what the book is going to say, and 221 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: they don't, but the librarian hands them a book and 222 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: opens it up to something they want them to see. 223 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: Or I'll visit these classrooms and when I get to 224 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: a classroom, I'll say, is there a professor here? Can 225 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: we talk to the professor? And then I asked the 226 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: professor what's the class called? What's it called in the curriculum? 227 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: And then this is where it gets unusual. I asked 228 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: the t we can talk to some of the students. 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: And this person who's seeing them they're doing the Guide 230 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: of Meditation, has no idea that there's classrooms in the afterlife, 231 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: but they're seeing students, sometimes a boy, sometimes a girl, 232 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: and sometimes the students will say, well, I'm currently incarnated 233 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: on the planet. But I live in this country, but 234 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm taking this class. Or they'll say, yeah, I passed 235 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: away some years ago, but I love this class. I 236 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 3: love being here, so I'm really breaking new ground here. George. 237 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Good for you. We're with Rich Martini. We're talking about 238 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: the afterlife, and then after the break we're going to 239 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: talk about the search for Amelia Earhart. He's got some 240 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: new information for you, the pilot who disappeared in nineteen 241 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: thirty seven. Hard to believe how long ago that was, Rich. 242 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: I know, but you know what on flip side terms, 243 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: that's really like twenty thirty minutes ago. 244 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, that's absolutely true. And we'll take calls next hour 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: on Coast to Coast with its Rich Martinez. Rich in 246 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: your opinion, what is the afterlife? 247 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: Well it's a great question, George, because you know, when 248 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: you're trying to define things, whether it's consciousness or life, 249 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: if you look up the word death in the dictionary, 250 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: it'll say not alive. And if you look up the 251 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: word life, it'll say not dead. So the definitions themselves 252 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: are kind of amorphous when you really examine what life 253 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: is and what life isn't. However, the way I try 254 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: to put it is. The research shows that we exist, 255 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: are alive, We exist energetically prior to any incarnation, almost 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: like the movie Soul that Pixar diad. They're like these 257 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: little you know, characters that run around and they're all 258 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: We exist prior to actually making a plan to learn stuff. 259 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: And people report that before we actually are born incarnated, 260 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: we plan the journey with our teachers and guides. What 261 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: are you here to learn? Who are you to here 262 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: to help? Who are you here to heal? And then 263 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: they claim that we only bring about twenty to forty percent. 264 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: The same thing talking about your mom actually being partially 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: on the flip side, we only bring about forty percent 266 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: of the conscious energy. But why are we aware of this? 267 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 3: It's because according to doctor Grayson you've had him on 268 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: page one twenty five of his book, after he says, 269 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: they're filters on the brain that block awareness, block information 270 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 3: not conducive to survival, which includes seeing other dimensions, seeing 271 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: other universes, seeing people that used to be here. We 272 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: don't see them because we have these filters. However, we 273 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: can bypass the filters by using hypnotherapy or mediumship or 274 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: what I do guided meditation. You're sort of sidestepping this 275 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: thing that's blocking you from that information. And of course, 276 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: after the session's over, you come back to normalcy and 277 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: your brain goes back to the way it was and says, oh, 278 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: I may all that up, but yeah, the point is 279 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: we exist, We're alive. Life exists off stage, and then 280 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: it exists on stage, but we're dumb down because of 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: these filters. And then once the play is over that 282 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: we've agreed to participate in, then we drop the props 283 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: and luggage and go home, go back to where we 284 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: plan the journey to begin with, and if we're lucky, 285 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: we get to come back. 286 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: It is truly remarkable how it works and how it functions, 287 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: isn't it. 288 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: I you know, I think it's remarkable that you and 289 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: I have known each other for fourteen years. And I 290 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: would say, look, fourteen years ago, I was just you know, 291 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: putting my toe in the water. And here I've been 292 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: fourteen years interviewing people, filming people, doing hypnotherapy sessions, doing 293 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: these guided meditations, and every time I learned something new, 294 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: and so I would just say, the the breadth of 295 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: this information, I'm just talking about a tip of an iceberg. 296 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: There's so much to learn, and there's so many more 297 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: things to examine, But the key sentence that I hear 298 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: most often is everything is going to be okay. And 299 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: I hear it from people off stage who are saying, 300 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: you know, I'll ask if you have one thing you 301 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: want me to tell your son, your daughter, your loved one, 302 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: and they'll say, tell them everything is going to be okay. 303 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: Once you cross over to the flip side, you see 304 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: that this everything is okay and we don't have to 305 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: stress and worry. So that might help some people that 306 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: are stressed and worried right now listening to my voice. 307 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: But you know, if you're a scientific person, you want 308 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: to say, well, what's happening, what's consciousness? How does that work? 309 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: And I encourage everybody to examine and test and challenge 310 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: things because you know, I'm saying that if you do 311 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: a four to six hour hypnotherapy session with a Newton 312 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: Institute trained hypnotherapist, you're going to see stuff. And if 313 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: you don't believe you will, then try it. How hard 314 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: can that be? 315 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: And the flip side is not necessarily religious, is it? 316 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: You know? And it's funny you'd say that it's actually 317 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: the contrary. I In all this research, I have never 318 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: run across anyone on the flip side who said there 319 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: was any religion on earth that reflected the journey, except 320 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: perhaps Native American concepts of consciousness being in everything. They 321 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: call it wakan tun kan, that's the Sioux version of it. 322 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: But that idea that rocks and trees and plants and 323 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: animals are all sentient and that we sort of need 324 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: to treat everything on the earth with respect because we're 325 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: here to participate in that journey. I know that, you know, 326 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: sounds a little esoteric, but that's the only system that 327 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: I found that is completely accurate, other than I would 328 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: say Buddhism is a philosophy that allows you to examine 329 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: the nature of reality in a very interesting way. However, 330 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: when they talk about the afterlife, it just doesn't hold 331 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: up in terms of the data and research, that's all. 332 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: And I don't want to argue with people about their beliefs. 333 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: Their beliefs, of course, and you know, people have opinions 334 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: and theories. But my thing is just focus on the data. 335 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: What does the data tell us, and if the data 336 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: is consistent and reproducible, then we can talk about it 337 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: from that aspect of well, if it's true that I 338 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: chose to be here, then what did I do that for? 339 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: And I know why you're here, George, because you're healing 340 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: people with your voice. 341 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 342 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot 343 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: com for more