1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome stuff. I 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: never told you a protection of iHeart Radio. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: And welcome to another feminist around the world. And y'all, 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: it is still Black History Month here in the US, 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: no matter if the Google calendar has decided to bend 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: the need to the new administration and its foolishness, it 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: is still Black History Month and we acknowledge it because 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: it is. And with that, let's talk about some amazing 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: people in the STEM field and how they are working 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: to bring more marginalized people into the industry. Specifically, let's 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: talk about Cynthia Chapel and her organization Black Girls Do STEM. 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: And if you have well, I guess this is only 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: the second episode in February of twenty twenty five, but 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: that step right there. Yeah, we're focusing a lot on 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: people in the US who are contributing to making history 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: within the black community, and we think it's really important 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: during a time where they are trying to eradicate that, 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: so stick with us. Chapel has talked about her love 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: of learning in an interview with Innovation City, which is 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: like a YouTube and podcast I believe, so you should 21 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: go take a listen. She talks about her passion and 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: wanting to know more and always asking questions about how 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: things worked, and how that was so important that to 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: her that she wanted for children like her it's like 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: similar situations, specifically young girls, to be able to do 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: that as well. She had understood how often society hindered 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: young girls, especially black girls, from doing so. So this 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: is something that's really pushed her in her work and 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: her passion, and because of that passion, she created Black 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: Girls Do Stem bg DS so that those initials are 31 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: used throughout a lot of interviews, and then that's also 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: her site bgds dot com. I believe so with a 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: back ground and chemistry and experience in the field, she 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: understands the difficulty in the field for young black girls. 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: In an interview with Voyage stl or Voyage Saint Louis, 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: she talks about her childhood and education. So here's a quote. 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: I grew up on the South Side of Chicago as 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: one of eight children. Chocolate is my favorite thing to 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: eat all the time, for no reason at all. I 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: attended Indiana University Purdue University, Indianapolis for my undergraduate degrees 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: in forensic and Investigative science and chemistry. I subsequently returned 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: to school and received a master's of Science and chemistry 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. I worked for a state crime lab 44 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: and also very different industries, and my most recent employer 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: in the manufacturing industry and electrical codings market as senior 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: research and development chemist. So she's done a lot in 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: this field. And in that same interview for Voyage, she 48 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: goes on to talk about her experiences in STEM. The 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: challenges I have faced have been around access to the 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: STEM program as a young black girl growing up on 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: the South Side of Chicago, or undergraduate student working several 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: jobs while going to school, juggling class and work, or 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: the graduate student tutoring to make ends meet all the 54 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: way to the professional who continuously felt isolated and singles 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: out in a space void of other minorities and often 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: other women. And in another interview she did with Saint 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Louis American, she talks about having mentors herself that helped 58 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: her pursue her passions. She says, as a high school student, 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: I had a mentor who was an aeronautical engineer who 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: worked for NASA. She was young, gifted, and black, and 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: I was so impressed with her. I knew I would 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: be a scientist. I was always interested in biology, but 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: also loved math. So I decided on chemistry because it 64 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: was less reading, more math, and still very useful in 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: creating and improving the world. Filly, you two would have 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: been friends. Annie with the math. Yeah, you had someone 67 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: like her in your life. Y'all could have encouraged each 68 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: other to love math and grow on in it. 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: It would have been nice. 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: This is why this is important and with having such 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: a great mentor. She talks about how her organization came about. 72 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: So here's some information from an article for Nicky Central 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: westendguide dot com. While working full time, Chapel became involved 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: in community outreach programs that increased ginger equity in STEM. 75 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: As a researcher, she discovered that black girls in the 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: Saint Louis public school systems were not participating in math 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: and science programs. To target that audience, in twenty fifteen, 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: she started an online social awareness campaign highlighting the contribution 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: of black women in STEM. In twenty eighteen, Chapel reached 80 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: out to the community centers to gauge interest in hosting 81 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: pop up STEM workshops for six to eighth grade black girls. 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: She got the word out and was thrilled when girls 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: started showing up. The idea quickly took on a life 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: of its own, and by the end of that year 85 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: she had seven community centers eager to participate. I was 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: literally bringing supplies out of the trunk of my car, 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: trying to make a great experience for the girls, she says. 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: So I love this. I love when programs come out 89 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: of just love and passion. Yeah, it's so beautiful. And 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: with the help of some partners, in twenty nineteen, she 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: was able to do the first Girls Do STEM Spring 92 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: Break pilot camp with eighty girls participating, and I believe 93 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: since then like hundreds of girls have participated. Here's some 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: more information from their site, bgdstem dot com. Our goal 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: is to create a cradle sue career pathway to strengthen 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: and diversify the pipeline of skilled workers entering today's dynamic 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: labor market. Black Girls Do STEM specifically targets Black girls 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: who've been traditionally underrepresented in STEM fields. We work to 99 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: advance twenty first century skills necessary to complete rigorous academic 100 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: programs and obtain family wage employment by creating a culturally 101 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: affirming learning space. We give room for cognitive and mental resilience. 102 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: Our programs provide a seven year continuous pathway for black girls, 103 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: beginning in sixth grade to the twelfth. We also support 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: them into university and workforce entry. We love mentoring, Barga 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: love it, I love them, and some more. From the 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: site from Chapel herself. My purpose of creating Black Girls 107 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: Do Stem is to change the face of STEM industry. 108 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: As both black and a woman, I have felt culturally 109 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: isolated in STEM workplaces. I can say I often walk 110 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: into spaces as either the only black woman or only minority. 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: I see very few people who look like me leading 112 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: within STEM industry. I am left to ask myself why. Then, 113 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: as I reflected on my college years and upbringing, I 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: am faced with the harsh reality that the lack of 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: exposure and encouragement may be the reasoning for my often 116 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: solo appearance in STEM industry. By launching Black Girls Do Stem, 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: I strive to provide a middle school age black girls 118 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: opportunity to learn, create, and build confidence in their abilities 119 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: to become STEM professionals. In doing this, we will be 120 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: closing the gap between black women's scientists and engineers and 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: the rest of the STEM world, opening black girl's eyes 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: to the possibilities in them while they are still curious 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: and excited to learn new things, giving black girls the 124 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: opportunity to be on the forefront of the next scientific discovery. 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: I believe black girls can, black girls will do STEM. 126 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah, so much. 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: I love that. And the program offers so much more 128 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: from programs for middle school, high schoolers and college students, 129 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: and again from their size. This is their three main goals. 130 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Improving self confidence, they say, we have found black girls 131 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: who undergo our program show significant improvements in social and 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: personal growth, including overall self confidence, as well as confidence 133 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: in their ability to learn new STEM techniques, reasoning and 134 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: critical thinking skills. Increasing engagement. Black girls who undergo our 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: program have an increased overall engagement with STEM, reporting greater 136 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 2: access to STEM career understanding and learning. And then their third, 137 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: sparking STEM career interest. Black girls who undergo our program 138 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: report an overall increase in STEM interest with significant opportunities 139 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: for career exploration, leading to an improvement in overall occupational awareness. 140 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: So obviously, there's so much more to who she is, 141 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: and there are programs that they have created, but We 142 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: just wanted to highlight something that is so amazing and 143 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: that's something that we want to see more and more 144 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: of and why programs like these are so important. 145 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, you know you know I love it. I 146 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: love it well listeners. As always, If you have any 147 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: suggestions or any thoughts, you can contact us in many 148 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: ways that you can email us at Hello at stuff 149 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Oneenever Told You dot com. You can find us on 150 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: blue Sky at mom Stuff podcast, or on Instagram and 151 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: TikTok at stuff when Never Told You. We're also on YouTube. 152 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: We have a tea public store, and we have a 153 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: book you can get wherever you get your books. Thanks 154 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: as always too our super producer Christina, executive producer Maya, 155 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: and architector Joey. 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Thank you and thanks to you for listening. 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: Stuff Never Told You is protection by Heart Radio. For 158 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: more podcast from my heart Radio, you can check out 159 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: the heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen 160 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: to your favorite US Yeah