1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer at how Stuff 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Works and I love all things tech. And this is 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: another bonus episode that I'm recording in Las Vegas, Nevada. 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: As I attend Sweet World eighteen, you can probably hear 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: from my voice that the dry desert air and the 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: long hours on the show floor are starting to take 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: its toll. Also, it's five in the morning here, but 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: that's no excuse. Let's get on with the show. So 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Sweet World eighteen is a big conference that's hosted by 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: net Sweet, which in turn is now a division of Oracle. 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: But net Sweet did not start out that way, and 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: so I want to give you the story of net Sweet. 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Also letting you know this bonus episodes a little shorter 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: than my normal episodes, largely because well, there are limitations 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: to what I can do with hotel WiFi and getting 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: these sound files out to my super producer, Tari. So 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: that's the reason for that. But let's talk all about 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: net Suite. What is this company? Was it due? Where 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: did it come from? Well, it's a company that makes 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: products for other companies products and services, so it's a 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: business to business enterprise. Most of us would likely have 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: no real experience with net suite unless we work in 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: some company that is relying on net sweets products. Otherwise 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: we don't really have contact with it. It's one of 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: those companies that works behind the scenes, and these business 28 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: to business companies often when you start digging into it 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: on the service level, they seem really complicated and sometimes 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: it seems like there's nothing there in relation to what 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: we do in our normal lives. But then when you 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: really look in you realize, wait a minute, these are 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: the companies that do work that allow the other companies 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: that I am familiar with, the ones that I do 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: interface with directly to do their work. So you can 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: think of net sweet as one of the companies that 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: creates those products that allow other companies like retail companies, 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: service companies to do what they do, and that's why 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: you have the experience you do working with those companies, 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: at least on a on a grand level before you 41 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: get really granular. So net sweets story begins with its founder, 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: Evan Goldberg. Goldberg was adopted at birth. He grew up 43 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: in Lexington, Massachusetts. As a young boy, he became interested 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: in math and uh. By fifth grade he was already 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: into programming and he really took to it so much 46 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: so that that became his main focus. He attended Phillips 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: Academy and over, and later he attended Harvard. He had 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: scholarships with both. He graduated from Harvard with a degree 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and applied mathematics. Very smart guy, and a lot of 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: people describe him as being extremely talented when it comes 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: to applied mathematics and coding. In fact, there are stories 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: about his days at net Suite, even as an executive, 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: where he was right there in the trenches with other 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: developers working on the code, and many people, many of 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the developers said, well, he codes faster than anyone else here. Uh. 56 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: And he served as chief technology officer for net Suite 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: through much of its history. So right out of college 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: he got the nod to come and work for the 59 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Oracle Corporation. And I'll talk about Oracle in a subsequent 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: podcast kind of give you the Oracle story because it's 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: also very interesting. But in general, Oracle is a computer 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: technology corporation that started back in nineteen seventy seven and 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: it's one of the largest software makers in the industry. 64 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of like right behind Microsoft. One of the 65 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: founders of Oracle, Larry Ellison, played a very important role 66 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: when that suite, becoming its largest investor. Goldberg worked for 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: UH Oracle for UM in various capacities for several years 68 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: until he decided then to strike out on his own 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and he founded a web development firm called imbed Software 70 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: and that's m b E D no no uh E. 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: At the beginning of that, Goldberg's operation was relatively small. 72 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: He didn't have a whole lot of people working for him, 73 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe like fifteen or so. But even so, he found 74 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: it challenging to operate the business successfully. And one of 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the things that frustrated him was that unlike big companies, 76 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: which had access to very complex software kits that allowed 77 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: them to do things like track customers and do pay 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: roll and all this kind of stuff, he found that 79 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: small business owners didn't really have those options there. There 80 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: weren't a whole lot of assets out there that they 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: could use, especially ones that would be affordable to a 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: small business. Most of the solutions out there were meant 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: for big, big companies, and therefore they cost a lot 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: of money. So your typical small business couldn't really afford 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: to invest in those software kits. And so he thought, well, 86 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: wait a minute, there's actually an opportunity here. You could 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: create a solution for these small to mid sized companies 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: that is more cost effective for them. So he called 89 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: up his buddy Larry Ellison in and he pitched the 90 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: idea of creating a customer relationship management or CRM product 91 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: for small businesses. Now, Ellison reportedly told Goldberg that it 92 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: might be easier to start out with a financial based 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: solution for small businesses, so essentially accounting software, start with 94 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: that and then grow from there. And further, he made 95 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: the suggestion of making the product web accessible, meaning it 96 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: would become a software as a service offering. And I 97 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: talked about that in the cloud computing episodes. But software 98 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: as a service is this idea that you don't go 99 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: out and buy a software package to live on your computer. Instead, 100 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: you pay a subscription to allow you access to software 101 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: that lives on another computer, the provider's computer, and you 102 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: can take advantage of the software. You can use it 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: all you like, but you don't have it living on 104 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: your computer. Now, this can bring the cost of the 105 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: software down on a per month basis. Like, if you 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: look at how much the software costs up front, it 107 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: might be thousands of dollars for these enterprise solutions. But 108 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: if you can bring that down to a smaller amount 109 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: per month, while over the lifetime of your use of 110 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: the software, you're likely to spend more money than if 111 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: you were just to buy it outright. Uh, the monthly 112 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: cost is much lower than the upfront one time cost 113 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of buying the software. Plus you don't have to worry 114 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: about the software going out of date and then having 115 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: to buy an upgrade because is the software is being 116 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: operated by the provider and they're making all the updates 117 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: on the back end. You get to enjoy that without 118 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: having to do it yourself. So Ellison was really forward 119 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: thinking here. This is when software is a service really 120 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: hadn't become a thing yet. So Goldberg followed Ellison's advice 121 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and he launched a company out of San Mateo, California, 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: towards the end of nine and he called it net Ledger, 123 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: And he also took some of Ellison's money, actually a 124 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: lot of it, ultimately more than a hundred million dollars 125 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: of it. So Larry Ellison was a major stakeholder in 126 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: this private company. After making that large startup investment and 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: a couple of subsequent investments, Goldberg gathered a team and 128 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: built an accounting software solution that had a web based interface, 129 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: and it was ready to go in early nine. The 130 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: starting price for using it when it first launched was 131 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: four dollars and ninety five cents per month, So and 132 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: you figure that out, that's you know, around sixty dollars 133 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: a year. For sixty dollars a year, you can have 134 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: access to this accounting software. When the actual if you 135 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: want to go out and buy like an enterprise level 136 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: accounting software kit, it might cost hundreds of dollars. So 137 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: for some companies this would make a whole lot of sense. Now, 138 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: the early net Ledger application started to leverage Oracles database technology. 139 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: That was one of the parts of the deal that 140 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: was made early on. Another sign that the two companies 141 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: were rather tightly coupled. At that point. The company announced 142 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: it was working on additional features right out of the gate. 143 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: So even when they were launching this accounting software, they said, hey, 144 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: this is not the only thing that we're ever going 145 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: to offer. We're going to include other features, and they're 146 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: all going to be integrated together. So it's not just 147 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: that we're going to have a software kit for one 148 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: aspect of your business or another. We're gonna have an 149 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: integrated approach of solutions so they all work with each other. 150 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: This was looking at another problem that companies were having, 151 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: which is that you would typically get one type of 152 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: software to handle one part of your businesses operations like accounting, 153 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: and you might have a different software package to handle 154 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: something like payroll, and you might have a different one 155 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: to track sales, and a different one for customer relationship management. 156 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: And many of these software packages they might be from 157 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: different providers, which means they're not necessarily uh compatible with 158 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: one another, that it's not easy to share information across them, 159 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: which means you have to generate reports out of all 160 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: of them and then compare them and then figure out 161 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: what your best approaches and do a lot of data 162 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: analysis of your own. And so the promise net Ledger 163 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: was trying to make was saying, what we're gonna do 164 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: has come out with a suite of programs, a suite 165 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: of features that all are designed from the beginning to 166 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: be interoperable so that you can easily share information across 167 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: different functions of your business and make it easier for 168 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: you to be able to do what you need to do, 169 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: especially as you get bigger. And again they're kind of 170 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: marketing this too small to midsize company, saying, why should 171 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: you have to struggle when large companies have been solving 172 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: these problems for years with very expensive software packages. Let's 173 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: set this up. So the company announced it was working 174 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: on UH features like linking e store transactions directly with 175 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: accounting software, so, in other words, there'll be no need 176 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: to have two tracking systems, one for the sales that 177 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: you're making an e stores and then a separate one 178 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: for accounting where you'd have to port over the results 179 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: from one to the other. The whole approach would be integrated, 180 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: which sounds pretty standard today, but again at the time, 181 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: that was pretty revolutionary for these sized companies. Meanwhile, Mark Bennioff, 182 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: who was another former Oracle executive, got a similar idea 183 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: to Goldberg right around the same time. In fact, and 184 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: about a month after net Ledger launched, he launched salesforce 185 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,479 Speaker 1: dot com, and salesforce dot com did have customer relationship 186 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: management as its primary focus. The thing that Goldberg had 187 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: suggested when he called up Ellison, and you could argue 188 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: that net sweet was the first real cloud computing company, 189 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: the first real commercial cloud commuting company out there was 190 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: pretty much net suite, but salesforce dot Com ended up 191 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: making the bigger impact. It grew faster, it got a 192 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: lot more attention. If you look online for stories about 193 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: the history of cloud computing like I did, Salesforce dot 194 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: Com pops up way more frequently than net Suite does 195 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: for those stories. Oh and uh, Ellison also invested money 196 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: in salesforce dot Com too, so spreading your bets back 197 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: to net Ledger. Gradually, Goldberg and his team began to 198 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: add in other features in addition to accounting, and again 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: they were all meant to help those smaller businesses managed 200 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: various operations through a more centralized approach, and it follows 201 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: into a category of products eventually, at least one of 202 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: the offerings called Enterprise resource Planning or e r P, 203 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: in which a system allows business operators the chance to 204 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: get kind of a holistic view of what's going on 205 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of their companies. I'll talk more about 206 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: the ARP a bit later and go into greater detail 207 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: about what that entails, but it's really big stuff. I mean, 208 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: it's stuff that's when you try to wrap your mind 209 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: around it, When you just start to consider how complex 210 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: it is, you realize that a tool that automates this 211 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: could be really, really useful if it's implemented properly. Now, 212 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Oracle would end up licensing that Ledger's product under the 213 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: name Oracle Small Business Suite for a short while, but 214 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: that experiment didn't last terribly long, and eventually they kind 215 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: of dropped that branding. In two thousand one, s Net 216 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: ran a review for Oracle Small Business Suite seven point oh, 217 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: and at that time, net Ledger wasn't just accounting, it 218 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: was also handling, sales tracking, customer inquiry, us saying, and more. 219 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: But the review concluded that the then price of nine 220 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: per month was pretty steep for the small businesses that 221 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: the company was targeting, and that unless a business needed 222 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: all the features that were offered in the suite, it 223 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: would make more sense to stick with smaller software packages 224 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: like quick books. So essentially, what sen was saying was, sure, 225 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: if you need all these features, then maybe a month 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: makes sense. But if all you're looking for is the 227 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: accounting side, then just go out and get accounting software. 228 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: Don't bother with going with a sweet approach. The review 229 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: also criticized the speed of the application, saying that desktop 230 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: based software was generally faster. Not a big surprise that 231 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: a web based UH offering was slower than a desktop one, 232 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: especially when you start considering things like internet speed and 233 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: bandwidth and things of that nature. So seen Ne gave 234 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: the product seven out of ten, so it wasn't exactly 235 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: a disastrous review, but it didn't really do net Ledger 236 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: any favors in those early days. But the team kept 237 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: working on improving features and later reviews were a little 238 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: more positive. They had a lot going against them at 239 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: that time. The cloud computing business strategy was largely unproven, 240 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: and to make matters worse, they launched right at the 241 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: very beginning of the period we call the dot com crash, 242 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: in which multiple web based startups had launched and then 243 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: fizzled away, mostly after failing to prove they could operate 244 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: as a revenue generating business, in other words, that they 245 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: could actually make up profit. There were so many startups 246 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: that people were excited about in those early days that 247 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: had not a come up with an effective business plan. 248 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: They had big ideas of what they wanted to do, 249 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: but they didn't really have a way of managing it, 250 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and certainly not growing and scaling the business in a 251 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: way that was managed that that was sustainable. And so 252 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: as a result, you had a lot of these companies 253 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: flash on the get a huge amount of investment money 254 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: poured into them, burn through that investment money in ridiculous 255 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: amounts of time, and then collapse in on themselves. So 256 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot of companies failed. Two of them that didn't 257 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: wear net Ledger and its rivals Salesforce dot Com. They 258 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: were both able to survive that era, but lots of 259 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: other companies weren't so fortunate. Now you can listen to 260 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: some of my older episodes about the dot com crash 261 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: and the companies that did not make it if you like. 262 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: There are tons of them in the Tech Stuff archives, 263 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: and they are interesting stories, filled with useful warnings about 264 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: startup behavior in general. In fact, a lot of analysts 265 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: like the point to the dot com crash and say, 266 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: do you remember when this happened? Maybe we should be 267 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: a little more cautious with these unicorns they're popping up 268 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley. Now I've got a little bit more 269 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: to say about net Suite, actually a lot more, but 270 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: first let's take a quick break to thank our sponsor. 271 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: In July two thousand two, Zack Nelson joined the net 272 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Ledger team as the CEO of the company. Nelson had 273 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: also worked with Oracle in the past, so continuing the 274 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Oracle association with net sweet but he had worked at 275 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: other places too, including McAfee, Sun Microsystems, and Motorola. Interestingly, 276 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: Nelson's degrees aren't in business. He attended Stanford and earned 277 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: degrees in biological sciences and anthropology, and then became a 278 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: CEO of a cloud based tech company. Wow, I'm just 279 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: saying I've got an English let degree if you want 280 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: to make me CEO of a multibillion dollar company, although 281 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I doubt I could do nearly as good a job 282 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: as Zach Nelson did. In September two thousand three, net 283 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: Ledger officially would change its name to net Suite and 284 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: would become the company that we now know, although now, 285 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: of course it's a division within Oracle. The company had 286 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: been offering a product called net Suite already. Uh that 287 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: was essentially the same sort of offering that was the 288 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Oracle small busy in a suite, and this indicated that 289 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: they were really going with software as a service beyond 290 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: just accounting. That they didn't want to have net Ledger 291 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: indicate that they only were interested in accounting, that they 292 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: were doing other things. So at this point the company 293 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: services could also handle marketing department needs in addition to 294 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: the other ones that already talked about, and gradually net 295 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Suite was adding in all the standard processes and departments 296 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: you would find in mid sized businesses. Now that sweets 297 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: value proposition was that it could offer up all the 298 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: services that a company might need, eliminating the necessity of 299 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: investing in those different products for various functions. So again 300 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: they were saying, here's a holistic, integrated approach that you 301 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: can use that will make everything much more streamline. That 302 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: was what they were trying to sell to customers, and 303 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: that you could easily share stuff across departments. You could 304 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: increase the interdepartmental communication within your business so that you 305 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: have someone in one department saying, well where are the 306 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: numbers of UH sales, so that we can plan our 307 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: our our strategies, like if it's marketing and sales. All 308 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: of this would be integrated so that if you were 309 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: using the net suite tools, you could call up the 310 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: reports you needed and make your decisions there. You didn't 311 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: have to worry about waiting on somebody else to send 312 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: you the information you needed. At least that was the 313 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: again sales pitch. As the suite of features grew, so 314 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: did the fee to access them, which led some other 315 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: analysts to echo what c net had said in two 316 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: thousand one, and namely that the company was pricing themselves 317 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: out of their target customer base of those small to 318 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: mid sized companies. By the mid two thousand's, cloud computing 319 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: was starting to come into its own in the business world. 320 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: Net Suite continued to grow, though not as quickly as 321 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: its rivals salesforce dot com. The company eventually began to 322 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: add more services and features. Uh, they fall into some 323 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: really big categories. So I'm gonna talk about those categories now, 324 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna give a little more detail about some 325 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: stuff I've already mentioned. So first, let's start with customer 326 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: relationship management, because that was the one Evan Goldberg had 327 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: in mind originally when he pitched his idea to Larry 328 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: Ellison back in It was the idea that Salesforce dot 329 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: Com went with in and we frequently initialize this category 330 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: to c r M. It's all about how a company 331 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: interacts with its customers, so the name is pretty self 332 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: explanatory Customer relationship management. So those customers might be other businesses, 333 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: or you know, they might be real life human being 334 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: type people like me and you or you and me, 335 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: or you and I or or all of us Google 336 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: che we are the Walrus CRM is about learning what 337 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: your customers like and don't like about your products and services. 338 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: It's about improving customer satisfaction and therefore customer retention, and 339 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: ultimately it's about driving more sales to customers. Not keep 340 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: in mind we are talking about businesses here, so at 341 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, the purpose of a business 342 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: is to make money doing whatever it is that the 343 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: business does. So while customer satisfaction is very important, it's 344 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: typically done with the view of how can I sell 345 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: more to this person? Just so that you don't get 346 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: too any warm, fuzzy feelings about customer service. Uh, but 347 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: it is important and obviously companies that have great customer 348 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: service are more likely to retain a customer and to 349 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: encourage that customer to purchase more and more than a 350 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: company that has really crappy customer service. I'm sure you've 351 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: all had good and bad experiences with customer service with 352 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: various companies, and I'm sure in many cases that has 353 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: led to changes in your behavior, whether it meant stepping 354 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: away from a company because you didn't like the way 355 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: you were treated, or sticking with a company becoming a 356 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: loyal customer because the way that they did treat you. 357 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: That sweets product has lots of features to track customer 358 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: behaviors to give analyst the chance to figure out what's 359 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: going on nearly in real time. So ideally this would 360 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: give a company the chance to address any problems quickly 361 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: or capitalize on working strategies to maximize their impact. Now, 362 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: this is more complicated than it sounds because there's so 363 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: many potential points of contact between a company and its customers. 364 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: So they're the obvious points, like a company's website. So 365 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: if there are feedback forms on the website, that's a 366 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: clear case where you're getting communications from your customers. But 367 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: there could also be phone lines, which means you have 368 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: representatives and you have to incorporate their reports into your information. 369 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: There could be an email contact, there could be social 370 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: media accounts, so it all starts to add up with 371 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: a really good CRM solution. Ideally, you would be able 372 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to get a pretty big, high level view of what 373 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: the overall customer perception is of your company's business, like 374 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: what does the average person think about what you do? 375 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: And if it's great, then you know you're doing well 376 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: and that you should really concentrate on those strategies. And 377 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: if it's not, so, you know that you have an 378 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: image problem and you need to fix it. And that 379 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: image problem might be on the surface or it might 380 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: be indicative of a very serious brutial problem at the 381 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: core of your business. Either way, this is one of 382 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: those methods where you can actually get that indication and 383 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: then respond to it so you can blame your strategies 384 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: accordingly based upon what your customers think about you. Then 385 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: there's the e commerce side of net suite. These are 386 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: tools that are meant to help integrate online sales with 387 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: traditional point of sale tools to help a business keep 388 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: an accurate tally of all sales across all platforms. So 389 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: let's say that you own a business that sells I 390 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: don't know, fidget spinners that that trend is almost over, 391 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: so let's go ahead and talk about that. You've got 392 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: in on the tail end of the fidget spinner craze, 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: but you're you're really hoping that it comes back, kind 394 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: of like Yo Yo's do every few years. So you 395 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: have a big storefront in um Times Square, New York, 396 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: and you also have your online store, and you want 397 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: to be able to see how sales are doing both 398 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: at the physical retail spot and online. So if you 399 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: have a software kit that can integrate all that information, 400 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: you can actually see the total sales both online and 401 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: in your physical storefront. You could break it out by 402 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: looking at online only storefront only. You could possibly even 403 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: break it out further like online only by region. So 404 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: depending upon the software that you're using for e commerce, 405 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: you could be able to get really granular and you 406 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: might see, oh, well, there's this one particular place that's 407 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: doing really really well, and there's this other place where 408 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: sales are are dragging behind. I should look into seeing 409 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: why that is. And there could be lots of different 410 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: reasons for that, right. It could just be that there's 411 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: no market for fidget spinners in that other region, or 412 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: it could be that you don't have enough sales people 413 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: in that region, and that's why your sales figures are low. 414 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: It could be that there was some sort of back 415 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: end error where maybe there was a manufacturing problem or 416 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: a shipping problem. So there's lots of different things that 417 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: could indicate why those sales are low. This is also 418 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: another reason why that integrated approach is one of the 419 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: big selling points that net suite hits over and over 420 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: again when they're marketing to customers. They say, you know, 421 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: any piece of information is valuable, but it's way more 422 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: valuable when you pair it with all the other information 423 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: and when you can actually see what is the cause 424 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: of that, because if you only have these individually, if 425 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: you have these, you know, separated out and there's no context, 426 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily be sure why the information has turned 427 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: out the way it is. So that's one of their 428 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: big selling points that they have for their customers. There's 429 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: also human capital management or HCM. I personally find the 430 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: phrase human capital to be really icky. I don't think 431 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like thinking of people in terms 432 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: of being assets to a company because it seems dehumanizing 433 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: to me. But hey, that's me being all hippie dippy. 434 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: The important thing about these features is that they centralize 435 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: human resource operations and payroll, so as companies grow, it 436 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: becomes more difficult to track all of that stuff. And 437 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: the promised net Suite makes to its customers is that 438 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: their product will keep things simple even as the company 439 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: gets more complicated, and the software generates reports on demand 440 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: and gives managers a chance to look for outliers that 441 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: might be the result of a mistake, or they might 442 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: indicate an under or overperforming employee and thus allow you 443 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: to address that further. Um then there's professional services automation 444 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: or p s A that's all about project management and 445 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: resource allocation. There are a lot of businesses out there 446 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: that operate on the principle of billable hours. I used 447 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: to work in consulting, and in those days, you were 448 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: supposed to build all of your hours to whichever projects 449 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: you were working on. So if you were working on 450 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: project day for four hours in the day, he would 451 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: write that down, and then maybe you spent two hours 452 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: on project B, so you would write that down. You're 453 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: supposed to keep track of all of that information because 454 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: all of that would be build to the client, or 455 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it's all internal billing where it it doesn't ever 456 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: go necessarily to an outward client, but it's a way 457 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: for a company to keep track of what employees are doing, 458 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: what projects are working on, which projects are taking up 459 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: the most in assets. Again, there's that word to refer 460 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: to human beings as assets um and it's a way 461 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: of just tracking what's going on. So uh, that was 462 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: part of what p s A covers. And finally there's 463 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: the enterprise resource planning or e r P section. I 464 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: talked about this just briefly earlier. These are all the 465 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: back end operations of business needs to handle, like inventory, shipping, billing, 466 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: and more. And obviously that that applies mainly to businesses 467 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: that are dealing with actual physical products, but services based 468 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: businesses they also have to work with inner enterprise resource planning. 469 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: So as business businesses grow, this gets way more complicated. 470 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: You could be dealing with multiple warehouses, manufacturing plants, retail locations, 471 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: so you have to figure out how to manage all 472 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: those moving pieces to make the stuff you make and 473 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: get it to the people who want it. And it 474 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: can also include functions like quality control. So if it 475 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: turns out your brand new fidget spinner has a tendency 476 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: to burst into flames. When you spin it counterclockwise, you'll 477 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: know and then you can address it before it becomes 478 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: a huge problem. You can put a hold on them 479 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: and find out what the underlying issue is and fix it. 480 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Features might include things like sending reports to various managers 481 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: to clear out bottlenecks or put a hold on shipments 482 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: while you work to resolve problems and think it's even 483 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: more complicated when you start operating in other countries. And 484 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: one of the other things the company has worked to 485 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: keep up with is the changing nature of business. Now, 486 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned going international just a second ago, but a 487 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: few years ago that was something only really big companies 488 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: could do. Is when you reached a certain level of growth, 489 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: then you could start looking into expanding operations into other countries. 490 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: But with the Internet, it's way easier to extend to 491 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: presence into new markets in different countries. At least it's 492 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: easier in that the Internet gives people a potential point 493 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: of contact. Actually doing business in other countries gets a 494 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: lot more complicated because of multiple factors that you have 495 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: to consider. So again, let's talk about you and your 496 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: fidget spinners. Like your fidget spinners are doing really well 497 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: for some reason, the trend has come back into vogue, 498 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: and you start having to ask yourself a lot of questions, like, 499 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: you wanna explore the possibility of of opening up operations 500 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: in other countries. So does it make sense to continue 501 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: making your fidget spinners in your main manufacturing facility. So 502 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: in our hypothetical example, let's say that you've got your 503 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: manufacturing facility and um, Hey Hira, Georgia, Ray Stevens call 504 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: out fidget spinner capital of the hypothetical situation, Hey Hira, Georgia. 505 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: If you do keep your manufacturing centralized in Hey Hira, Georgia, 506 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: it means that you'll be shipping all those fidget spinners 507 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: overseas to your international markets. Now, that obviously is going 508 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: to increase the cost per spinner that you are incurring 509 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: and that will eat into your profits. Or does it 510 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: make more sense for you to either build or partner 511 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: with a manufacturing facility in the country or countries you 512 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: want to do business with. And if so, that requires 513 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: more management, but it might cut down on other costs, 514 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: including shipping costs, because if you're closer to your destination, 515 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to ship things as far, so there 516 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: are lots of other matters to consider, like foreign currencies, 517 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: what's the exchange rate? How are you how is that 518 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: going to affect your business? Also, taxes, different countries and 519 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: even different regions within some countries have different tax laws, 520 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: so you have to know all of these in order 521 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: to price your fidget spinners properly and make sure you're 522 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: still making a profit. And then there are localization issues 523 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: to consider. So let's say the country you've got your 524 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: sights on is um Germany. They seem like they'd be 525 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: really big into fidget spinners. That's a fun loving country. 526 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: So to make things go more smoothly, it would be 527 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: good to have your business localized so that German customers 528 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: can operate easily with your storefront, which means having a 529 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: German language website, and it means having some Germans speaking 530 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: people to communicate uh, so that you're when people talk 531 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: to your company, you can talk back with them, so 532 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: you want to have some sort of localized support there. 533 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: It may also mean developing tailored customer relationship strategies for 534 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: German customers because you may find out that people in 535 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: different parts of the world behave differently that you can't 536 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: just use the exact same customer relationship approach across the world. 537 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: It might work in one part and not in another. Now, 538 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: take this imaginary scenario and then expand it to an 539 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: operation that's trying to go worldwide. So how do you 540 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: make sure you're serving everyone? Well, that's why companies like 541 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: net sweet try to come up with strategies that that 542 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: incorporate these ideas and are supposed to help you be 543 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: able to implement them. Uh. And of course net suite 544 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: is not the only one that does this, but I mean, 545 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: this is the story of net sweet, which is why 546 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about it. But it does show you how 547 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: complicated things can get very quickly as businesses grow, particularly 548 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: in the Internet age, where we have an unprecedented access 549 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: to the whole world, so things happen really fast now. 550 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: And that again is why companies like net suite can 551 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: offer up services that can look really attractive if you're 552 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: a business owner who doesn't have experience in these realms. 553 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: I've got a little bit more to say about that Suite, 554 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: but first let's take another quick break to thank our sponsor. 555 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, that's Sweet held its initial public offering, 556 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: meaning it transformed from a private company to a publicly 557 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: traded one, and when preparing to set the opening price 558 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: for shares, net Suite actually doubled its initial estimate of 559 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: thirteen dollars. The new price of twenty six dollars per 560 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: share would put the value of the company and more 561 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: than one and a half billion dollars a Princely some 562 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: net Suite did not do this increase randomly. The company 563 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: actually held what is known as a Dutch auction for 564 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the I p O. And actually there are two different 565 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: types of Dutch auctions, and they contradict each other, So 566 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I'll explain what the other one is at the end 567 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: of this. But when we talk about I p O s, 568 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: the Dutch auction is a process that a company essentially 569 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: puts out a question to investors, which is how much 570 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: stock are you willing to buy? And at what price 571 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: are you willing to buy it. Then the company takes 572 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: all that response and they look at it and they 573 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: figure out what the best opening price of its I 574 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: p O stock is based off those results. And this 575 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: is in an attempt to get the most money on 576 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: that opening So if say, oh, well, here's the highest 577 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: amount that someone said they were willing to pay for 578 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: our stock. So that's that's our upper limit. Here's the 579 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: lowest one. That sets our low limit. Where do most 580 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: of them fall in? All right, So it turns out 581 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: that people are value are stock more than thirteen dollars 582 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: per share, so let's go ahead and increase it. And 583 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: that's how they got to the figure of twenty six 584 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: dollars per share UH and its first day of trading, 585 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: the shares ended up trading at twenty seven dollars and 586 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: cents at the end of the day. That bummed out 587 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: some shareholders who are really hoping for a first day 588 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: surge and value. That frequently happens with I p o s. 589 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: But then you could argue that that happens with I 590 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: p o s that undervalued their stock going into trading, 591 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: and in this case, you could argue that net Sweet 592 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: pretty much nailed the value of its stock. But for 593 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: investors that doesn't necessarily come back as a happy news 594 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: because you may want to have that feeling of a 595 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: day one pay day where you buy a thousand shares 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: of stock at thirteen dollars and it closes at twenty 597 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: six and you've just doubled your money. Uh, that didn't happen. Oh, 598 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: and I mentioned that Dutch auctions have two meanings, So 599 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: here's the other one. The other is an auction where 600 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: you start off with a high price and you gradually 601 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: bring the price down for an item until someone bids 602 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: on the item at the that current price. So you 603 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: might say, let's auction this painting, starting off at two dollars, 604 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: and then you might go down by five per a 605 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: bid and as soon as someone bids on it, once 606 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: it starts hitting a certain price um, then the auction 607 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: for that item is over and that person buys it. 608 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: So instead of starting from a low point and bidding higher, 609 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you started a high point and wait until some bidder 610 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: decides that that's the price they're willing to pay for 611 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: whatever the item is. And typically you keep going down 612 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: until you hit the reserve price of the auction item, 613 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: and at that point you stop because you wouldn't want 614 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: to sell for less than what the is actually worth 615 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: or has been set as a reserve price anyway. Worth 616 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: is a difficult concept when it comes to auctions. So 617 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: one thing else I wanted to talk about is that 618 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: net sweet has acquired a few companies since it launched. 619 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: UH since it's IPO in two thousand seven. In two 620 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, they bought a company called open Air 621 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: that specialized in web based expense reports and timesheets. In 622 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, net Suite acquired quick Arrow, which created 623 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: professional services automation products. And other acquisitions include e company 624 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: Retail Anywhere UH in two thousands thirteen and email service 625 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: provider Bronte Software in two thousand fifteen, and there were 626 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot of others as well. But now net Suite 627 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: itself is an acquisition or it has been acquired. Back 628 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: in two thousand sixteen, Oracle announced its intention to purchase 629 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: net Suite for a cool nine point three billion dollars. Technically, 630 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: this involved talking with investors and making an agreement to 631 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: buy back fifty percent of the stocks that were out 632 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: in circulation, so that Ellison larray Elson would essentially get 633 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: more control over it because he and his family had 634 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: nearly fifty percent of the company. Not quite around and UH, 635 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: the the deal meant that the UH selling price for 636 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: that other stock that other people were holding was actually 637 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: higher than what the trading price was. This is how 638 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: they were able to buy out the some of the 639 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: other investors and so it was a deal that was 640 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: valued at about nine point three billion dollars. Now, Oracle 641 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: also deals in cloud based solutions for customers, and like 642 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I've mentioned, it's had a pretty tight relationship with net 643 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Suite throughout its history. Some analysts pointed out that the 644 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: acquisition solved a problem that Oracle was running into. Net 645 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: Sweet had more of a presence with midsized companies, a 646 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: market that Oracle wanted to really get into, and Oracle 647 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: and net Suite had been competing a bit in that market, 648 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: which was weird because Oracle also had the close relationship 649 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: with net Suite, and according to net Suite executives, the 650 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: former company continues to operate as it did before. It's 651 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: just now a department in the larger Oracle corporation and 652 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: can take advantage of Oracles technologies and database and huge 653 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: amounts of information. The acquisition was approved and completed in 654 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: late twenties sixteen, so net Suite now operates as part 655 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: of Oracle and has integrated several of its approaches with 656 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: Oracle products. And At Sweet World eighteen where I am now, 657 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: executives talked about new features being added in the one 658 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: I thought was the most interesting was artificial intelligence meant 659 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: to help alert managers to extraordinary cases, things that could 660 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: indicate either someone has committed an error that needs to 661 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: be addressed or potential strategic moves that could save a 662 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: company money. So, for example, you could set up a 663 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: project that involves manufacturing your fidget spinners in Hamburg, Germany 664 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: and shipping them to Berlin. But then you see that 665 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: the net swite product is telling you that this plan 666 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: has a low probability of being profitable, and getting that 667 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: information before you actually commit your sources could help you 668 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: save tons of money and make you more nimble in 669 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: the process to actually figure out a working strategy that 670 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: will make you money, as assuming that the product works 671 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: as advertised. Of course, I can't speak to that last 672 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: bit because I've never used net suite. Now, I can 673 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: say that they throw a really wild event. The presentations 674 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: had a DJ mixing up music tracks live before the 675 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: events even started. There were enormous screens with projections of 676 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: presentations and live video of presenters. There were lights and 677 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: smoke effects and acrobats. It's all pretty over the top 678 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: for an event that was designed to market new features 679 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: to net sweet customers. Um, I'm not really sure how 680 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: I feel about these trade shows guys, because it's so weird. 681 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not the target audience. I'm not a 682 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: net sweet customer, So I'm looking at this from a 683 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: very objective point of view, and it is it's a 684 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: weird spectacle. It's it's not necessarily bad, it's just weird. Uh. 685 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: There was a lot of humor in the presentations, which 686 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: I appreciated, including a video about how Evan Goldberg talking, uh, 687 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, speaking with people over at Oracle and saying, Hey, 688 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: I've got this great idea. We're going to announce all 689 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: of our our new ideas with a viral video, and 690 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: then the guy at Oracles like, no, please don't do that, 691 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: and having over it's like, you're right, we should do it. 692 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: And then it goes out and does this crazy mash 693 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: up viral video approach, which was extremely dorky, and I 694 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: appreciated that because I'm also extremely dorky. So it was 695 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: an interesting experience attending this conference um and learning more 696 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: about net Suite, a company I had heard about multiple 697 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: times but never really looked into. 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