Speaker 1: I Am all In.
Speaker 2: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, Season five,
Speaker 1: Episodes seven, I Jump You Jump Jack and I know right,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta Kenny Ortega. If you're if you're
Speaker 1: playing cards and you're dealt the the Kenny Ortega card
Speaker 1: and then the Dan Palladino card, you've already got two aces,
Speaker 1: so you're betting heavy. You're going all in, right, you know, Kenny.
Speaker 3: Is legit, like all his episodes are.
Speaker 1: They look like they're very they're huge, They're always huge.
Speaker 1: It's and uh, I gotta say, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't You don't think the episodes can get better, and
Speaker 1: then they get better and you don't. There's how much
Speaker 1: more room is there for improvement? There seems to be
Speaker 1: very little. Each time you see an amazing episode, it's like,
Speaker 1: how does this get better? This one was better?
Speaker 2: Yes, this is like one of the greatest ones with
Speaker 2: you so annoyed from start to finish?
Speaker 1: Why Why are you annoyed?
Speaker 3: Because I'm just really annoyed and I don't want to
Speaker 3: admit it.
Speaker 1: Because you like you like logan, I didn't say that
Speaker 1: you like Logan compelling and interesting.
Speaker 3: Episode so much because I think he's cool.
Speaker 2: I love that Scott fully new and fully just called
Speaker 2: you out because Danielle and I were talking before and
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, do admit it.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no kidding, he's he's a charmer. I know,
Speaker 2: I know we need to go in order, which we will,
Speaker 2: but I just find it fascinating. I mean, there are
Speaker 2: two huge storylines like congruent in this episode, everything with
Speaker 2: Rory and Logan and then everything with you Luke and
Speaker 2: the Gilmours, Lorali, Richard, Emily, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: like try to read into it, but it's sort of
Speaker 2: a fascinating thing of privilege versus sort of regular.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Rory's the boomerang and she's bringing the
Speaker 1: family back into the one percent or the point zero
Speaker 1: zero percent with the Logan titillation potential, and Laureli is
Speaker 1: going so far away from it with Luke. Right, It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the chickens are coming home to roost,
Speaker 1: and in a different way than probably Laurel I realized,
Speaker 1: because she thought her parents were you know, you know,
Speaker 1: toxic or whatever you need? What about the Huntsburgers, what
Speaker 1: are they going to be like?
Speaker 4: Well, and that's the funny thing.
Speaker 2: For for all of Laurel's rejection, which I do think
Speaker 2: is genuine, and I think she's still rejecting it, which
Speaker 2: we'll dig into Rory is by circumstance or happenstance dipping
Speaker 2: her toe into it. And she is certainly at the
Speaker 2: end not mad at it, and would be I wouldn't be.
Speaker 1: Dean did some pretty Dean did everything he could possibly
Speaker 1: do with what he had. He mean, he built her
Speaker 1: a car, right, I mean it doesn't like Logan would
Speaker 1: buy her an suv or or whatever, right and just
Speaker 1: leave it in a bow with a mystery with a
Speaker 1: mask and meet us here and we'll pick you up
Speaker 1: and blindfold you and whatever you know, and you blindfold
Speaker 1: yourself and it's all great and it's mysterious and it.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Is that every girl's dream to meet a guy like
Speaker 1: Logan who's filled with mystery and intrigue?
Speaker 4: And it's a really great question?
Speaker 1: Or is it just a stereotype? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: want to stereo.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a really good you're asking a really good question.
Speaker 1: It's a fairy tale. There's a fairy tale.
Speaker 4: Every girl's dream, because.
Speaker 2: It's not just like some rich dude. Right there is
Speaker 2: something extremely charming about Logan. That he's polarizing, I get it.
Speaker 2: Everyone can comment, but he's very charming and he is thoughtful,
Speaker 2: Like it is thoughtful what he dropped off at the
Speaker 2: end of the episode, and it is essentially thoughtful that
Speaker 2: he knew Rory's writing this story. Whether he likes it
Speaker 2: or not is like unclear in the beginning, like like
Speaker 2: likes her, but he is helping her out. He's invited her,
Speaker 2: he's giving her the story. He's got her in the door,
Speaker 2: like he's helping her out her.
Speaker 4: He likes her too.
Speaker 2: He's the only girl that gives him a run for
Speaker 2: his money.
Speaker 1: He's and she's unlike anyone in his circle.
Speaker 3: And vice versa too, right, Like he's unlike anybody in
Speaker 3: her circle right there.
Speaker 1: But he's familiar to her through DNA, through Richard and Emily.
Speaker 1: You know, she's she's been exposed to it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Ch Rory for all her stars hollow existence is extremely privileged,
Speaker 2: like they have tons of money. She wants for nothing. Essentially,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean, because like the Gilmore's
Speaker 2: even bought her a car, Like she has a car
Speaker 2: at school, which most kids would never have. Like she
Speaker 2: can go to Yale, she can go to Chiltern, Like
Speaker 2: even though she has this other existence, she is as privileged. Essentially,
Speaker 2: she can go to Europe for two months totally, and
Speaker 2: she has all these experiences that most kids would never
Speaker 2: have because of her grandparents.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, in terms of storylines, I don't
Speaker 1: think you can can write a storyline more powerful than young,
Speaker 1: mysterious love discovering each other and itself without because I
Speaker 1: think he's he's naturally keeping a distance because he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what she is yet he just knows that he
Speaker 1: is really likes her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's and it's.
Speaker 1: Happening fast for him. You know, he's he knows she's
Speaker 1: not just another girl that he can sort of toy
Speaker 1: around with. Yet he's toying around with her, right, that's right, right,
Speaker 1: But for me, for him, he's more invested in this.
Speaker 1: He's being more careful with this. He was so happy
Speaker 1: that she jumped and they caught it on the camera,
Speaker 1: on her camera, and he's sending that to her. That's
Speaker 1: a love.
Speaker 2: Life intentionally, right, He's like, no pictures and then he
Speaker 2: gives her.
Speaker 1: She's teaching him how to love, to use his heart
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I don't know that he has
Speaker 1: had that opportunity in his circle because it's all artifice,
Speaker 1: it's all yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not coming easy for him, right, Like he has he
Speaker 2: has to actually like put some effort in.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling that Rory's going to save this
Speaker 1: guy and he wants to be saved. He wants to
Speaker 1: be saved the same way Laurel I wanted to be
Speaker 1: saved and get away from all of that. I think
Speaker 1: there's the same there's a similar pull there for him.
Speaker 1: I just feel that I have I don't know the episodes.
Speaker 1: I do remember at the beach where Logan and his
Speaker 1: father Mitcham get into a shouting match, and it's just
Speaker 1: like that's what he can.
Speaker 2: Were you aware because it's such an iconic Gilmore image
Speaker 2: of the jump, like did you when you watch that?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 1: I saw pictures of it. I didn't know what was
Speaker 1: leading up to it. I didn't know that they were,
Speaker 1: you know, attached to a trapeze type safety hard that
Speaker 1: so I was very curious about it. Of course I
Speaker 1: was really curious about it.
Speaker 2: I mean I wish and we will have we will
Speaker 2: have guests that will be able to answer this because
Speaker 2: I'm so curious about that day of shooting and like
Speaker 2: what they actually built out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I've seen anything more clever, more disturbing,
Speaker 1: and more entertaining than human clay pigeons. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just like, how do you not just blurt out laughing the.
Speaker 4: Whole thing when you and the reveal.
Speaker 2: So she's blindfolded and she's in the car and then
Speaker 2: you reveal this.
Speaker 3: White, magical town.
Speaker 4: Like glamping to its finest.
Speaker 1: Human is every guy's fantasy, whether they realize it or not.
Speaker 1: Because once I saw that, I said, yes, that's perfect, and.
Speaker 2: Just the whole fanciness, the fancy food, the caters, the servers,
Speaker 2: the everything, and the talking without the ease and just
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And like, you know, these kids all
Speaker 2: go to Yale, right, so not only are they like
Speaker 2: privileged and fancy, but they're smart.
Speaker 4: Like these kids all go to Yale. Logan is smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean right, she's met her match sort
Speaker 2: of sort of, all right, so let's go backwards.
Speaker 1: We shall see how this unfolds. I am so hooked,
Speaker 1: I am so intrigued to Daniel. I know you're I
Speaker 1: know you're on that horse now. You can roll your
Speaker 1: eyes all you want, but you are digging this journey.
Speaker 3: I'm getting there. And the reason what I had told
Speaker 3: Amy was he wasn't such an a hole this episode,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he was like just
Speaker 3: very mysterious and charming and like we'll get there. But
Speaker 3: left the dress under you know, the bed, like all
Speaker 3: these things that you're just like, whoa, You're cool, you know,
Speaker 3: like you're not like trying too hard, and it just
Speaker 3: came effortlessly to him.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to ask something, What is this is
Speaker 2: going to have to really be for Daniel because I
Speaker 2: think Scott will just not even be able to answer.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll turn my mic off.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, we want.
Speaker 2: You to stay in here on pure physical attraction. Dean, Guess, Logan,
Speaker 2: not their personalities nothing.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Jess one hundred percent? Like all
Speaker 4: the way. Yes, yeah, I wonder if that plays.
Speaker 3: In Winds by a long shot. But I'm also obsessed
Speaker 3: with Milo now, so I might be biased, right, right.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that plays into like which team we're on.
Speaker 2: Essentially it may be whether consciously or subconsciously, because Logan
Speaker 2: slash Matt Zoukery is just to me like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: he's so cute, his perfect hair, and he always looks
Speaker 2: the cute outfit.
Speaker 4: And he comes in that tux that I'm swooning like.
Speaker 2: So I mean and I get it like Jared Padiluki
Speaker 2: mylather are all three so handsome. So I think it's
Speaker 2: just like which handsome piece of the pie?
Speaker 1: Do you why? I don't I can be in this conversation,
Speaker 1: So what do you think? Well, I think I think
Speaker 1: about it as you know, the character and what I
Speaker 1: would want for and and this episode made me question
Speaker 1: what Luke really wants out of life, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. So it's it was at.
Speaker 4: Jo there.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you just if you just look
Speaker 1: at it long term, my opinion is the best person
Speaker 1: for Rory at this moment is the greatest potentials Logan.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why. I don't know why she
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to lead a life like that. She could
Speaker 1: still have her integrity, she could still you know, be
Speaker 1: the great journalist of the world. She wanted to put
Speaker 1: that kind of effort and time into it and travel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, it's very important to stay present
Speaker 2: in it. I think about the movies that can set
Speaker 2: you sideways.
Speaker 1: Right, But he could provide her some some very nice
Speaker 1: accommodations along the time.
Speaker 3: I actually agree with that, because no one needs to
Speaker 3: be with a man that's not secure with themselves they
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Out of the three, Logan
Speaker 3: is secure and who who he is and confident in
Speaker 3: who he is, versus the other two are still trying
Speaker 3: to find themselves and still trying to figure out what
Speaker 3: they want and and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think that's a really good point.
Speaker 3: The best odds right now are with Logan.
Speaker 2: But we will learn more because Logan has a very
Speaker 2: contentious relationship with his.
Speaker 4: Father, right, but that's not there yet.
Speaker 1: The Rory or any young woman who's you know, still
Speaker 1: in college, has already figured out their life path and
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do, and they want to
Speaker 1: get married young, and they want to start having children young,
Speaker 1: and they want.
Speaker 4: To right which she wants no part of, which she.
Speaker 1: Wants no part of apparently, right, So.
Speaker 2: Right, like she's this career woman who wants to be
Speaker 2: a journalist. So I still agree with you both though
Speaker 2: that Logan is of the three has great potential for
Speaker 2: her in my opinion, because he challenges her.
Speaker 1: It's amazing when when presented with these types of situations
Speaker 1: how people react, you know, that feel like they don't
Speaker 1: deserve it, and they sabotage it in this kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. So it's it's a very very powerful storyline.
Speaker 1: For me, it's I can't wait to see more, That's
Speaker 1: all I'll say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say too, I think that what
Speaker 2: Amy Sherman, Palladino and the writers and everybody did was
Speaker 2: so clever because you can already even you two who
Speaker 2: don't exactly know what happens, can see the potential for
Speaker 2: trouble when Laura I realizes that Rory likes somebody that is.
Speaker 4: Just not who she wants for Rory.
Speaker 2: Think about that, like, we can tell that now that
Speaker 2: this guy is Richard and Emily's dream, and Laurelai is
Speaker 2: going to be Like.
Speaker 3: With that being said, has laurel I liked any of them? No,
Speaker 3: she hasn't.
Speaker 1: She likes a Dean she came around.
Speaker 3: Now but like in the beginning, she was not about
Speaker 3: it and definitely not just he was.
Speaker 1: A cocky, arrogant, insecure kid who made a bad move.
Speaker 4: That is interesting.
Speaker 1: Now now it's my turn to talk.
Speaker 4: That was that was kind of out of care.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, it's very much a departure from
Speaker 3: who he became.
Speaker 2: Like, I.
Speaker 3: Very interesting that they like started him off that way.
Speaker 4: Did we do the synopsis?
Speaker 3: All right, I'll give it to you. Season five, episode seven,
Speaker 3: You Jump I Jumped Jack Air date November two to
Speaker 3: two thousand and four. Emily finds out about Loreli and
Speaker 3: Luke's relationship and invites him to dinner, while Richard invites
Speaker 3: Luke to golf at the club. Laurea lies mortified at
Speaker 3: the prospect of Luke interacting with her snooty parents, and
Speaker 3: Luke soon learns why. Rory participates in a bizarre off
Speaker 3: campus event to research a story on Logan's Secret Society,
Speaker 3: and Lane and Zach have a stay at home first date.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cute.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, go ahead, Amy, No, you go either.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, I think that my favorite
Speaker 1: opening of the entire series so far.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a bold statement.
Speaker 2: But I like it so just I know I always
Speaker 2: say this, but obviously it's November, so there was it
Speaker 2: was sweeps and there was a lot more money, which
Speaker 2: you can tell. This episode is way more extravagant than others.
Speaker 2: So we open with the scene Laura lies in that
Speaker 2: pink sweater which she got, the big bright pink jacket
Speaker 2: with the pink sweater with the heart on it, and
Speaker 2: Rory I notice had a little bit more curls and
Speaker 2: her hair and they're with Emily and she's like, I
Speaker 2: want to meet him.
Speaker 4: Kirk told me about him.
Speaker 1: Of course, Kirk blabbed it. She said her boyfriend Luke
Speaker 1: Danes's house. You can just hear him say it so good.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 2: The difference between the way beer can be said. Beer
Speaker 2: is like really because when when I I too think,
Speaker 2: I first thought things were going great and then it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: no they're not.
Speaker 4: And Lorelai was right. But we'll get to that, so okay.
Speaker 2: So then we go into the newsroom and Rory and
Speaker 2: Doyle are sort of having their exchange that they love,
Speaker 2: you know, feeling like they're real newspeople shout out to Doyle,
Speaker 2: by the way, who was totally in the latest episode
Speaker 2: of Maseel hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all have been like right, like don't they
Speaker 3: just yeah.
Speaker 2: The like secondary cast, you know, like not the like
Speaker 2: so much the the big big stars. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: she can't afford any of us anymore.
Speaker 1: We priced ourselves out of the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then we go to the diner and this
Speaker 2: is where we start to see Lane and Zach having their.
Speaker 4: Sort of you know, exchanges, which I actually liked. It
Speaker 4: was cute, it was it was good to see.
Speaker 1: It was good to see Zach come around a little bit,
Speaker 1: and that's what I thought, show show a vulnerable side
Speaker 1: and he was funny and he was awkward, and it
Speaker 1: was it was truly funny. This is you know, I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Scott. It was funny and awkward.
Speaker 2: But Daniel Space is making me think she he is
Speaker 2: just still so forced, like it's.
Speaker 1: So but it's but it's less forced than it was.
Speaker 1: At least he dropped, you know, he he he dropped
Speaker 1: the angry guy who couldn't process anything, and he had
Speaker 1: time to process it. And he came back and he
Speaker 1: actually came to her, and that was a big deal
Speaker 1: for a guy like him, and I I was happy
Speaker 1: that he faced his fears and overcame it and was proactive,
Speaker 1: hung around outside the diner said I'm ready, I want
Speaker 1: to date. I mean that took a lot. That was
Speaker 1: a big lifestep for Zach.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the comedy of the dating your roommate because
Speaker 2: it's like they're having this.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I'm ready, Okay, how about tonight? Okay, see
Speaker 4: at home?
Speaker 1: The best line of the whole thing, all right, see
Speaker 1: it home.
Speaker 3: It'st like without even discussing that.
Speaker 2: So I found the comedy in that very amusing, Like
Speaker 2: with Brian coming in and plopping in the middle of
Speaker 2: the date and they're like, we're on a date, and
Speaker 2: he's like, I think we're doing exactly the same thing
Speaker 2: we watched and did last night.
Speaker 4: Were you on a date last night?
Speaker 2: You know? And then the one thing that I cannot
Speaker 2: wait to ask Todd Low when he comes on is
Speaker 2: that got his name right right? How in the hell
Speaker 2: did he pick Brian up, throw him over his shoulder,
Speaker 2: hold him.
Speaker 1: He weighs nothing, so that Brian's as skinny as a
Speaker 1: real and he was skinnier back then he was And it's.
Speaker 4: Still one hundred something pounds.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred and twenty soaking wet. Give me a break.
Speaker 2: I do my five pound weights in my garage, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, but Todd, Todd's.
Speaker 1: A pretty he's a pretty big guy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He looks like a strong guy.
Speaker 4: Legit, legit. Okay, So we're going out of bard.
Speaker 1: Brian's nothing. He's he's like a little skinny nothing. He's
Speaker 1: very thin, and he was way free.
Speaker 4: But that's still.
Speaker 1: Thinner back then. I mean, he's rail thin.
Speaker 4: That's still him a challenge.
Speaker 2: So I did love the charming scene between you and
Speaker 2: Laura and lour lyon Luke talking about the dinner.
Speaker 4: And Luke just being so steady, like this is a
Speaker 4: part of it. Let's just get it over with. Let's
Speaker 4: just do it.
Speaker 2: Like it's fine, book it. He's so confident, Like he's
Speaker 2: so confident. It's not worried about it.
Speaker 1: Why should he be? He it's a it's what comes
Speaker 1: after that is so perplexing for me.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait to hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but let's keep going, okaying for me, we.
Speaker 2: Get quickly to the dinner, like it's immediately, So we
Speaker 2: get right to the dinner, right at the door, Luke.
Speaker 2: I think it is the first time that Luke's actually
Speaker 2: been to the Gilmore, so he sort of WHOA the house,
Speaker 2: you know, Lorli really wants to drink heavily.
Speaker 3: Like, let's don't blame her.
Speaker 2: So they go in and Emily offers the tour of
Speaker 2: the house, which I kind of love. And also it's
Speaker 2: like a little like the tour of the house thing
Speaker 2: is always a question because you want the tour, but
Speaker 2: is it so like obnoxious to offer would you like
Speaker 2: a tour of our mansion?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Whenever I go over a new house, I'm like, please
Speaker 3: show me every.
Speaker 1: I love tours. If they don't ask me, I just
Speaker 1: do it on my own.
Speaker 3: Anyway, See you got into the bathroom, walk around.
Speaker 1: We were we were we were at this kid party recently,
Speaker 1: my son's classmate at a birthday party, and there was
Speaker 1: this massive mansion and they they were so busy with
Speaker 1: so many guests. Uh, we just took our own tour.
Speaker 1: We're like wow, wow, wow. Then I think like a
Speaker 1: maid showed up and said, can we help you?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we Oh I'll find the bathroom this way,
Speaker 2: I will admit to though this is so bad, and
Speaker 2: I know everyone does it.
Speaker 4: Like when somebody has.
Speaker 2: To give you their address, you're immediately like zillody, I've
Speaker 2: said that, but.
Speaker 3: Before five seconds, what's their house?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 2: So at first I did, I actually hook line and
Speaker 2: Sinker fell for it. I thought it was going great.
Speaker 2: He's very Luke, You're was very confident. She said, you know, hello,
Speaker 2: missus Gilmore, call me Emily. And then he says Emily
Speaker 2: like nine times, like he was real strong with the Emily.
Speaker 2: And I did notice one thing that I thought was amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys noticed it. So Emily
Speaker 2: brings out the tray of drinks and Luke picks up
Speaker 2: Laurelize and hands it right to her, like, Luke has
Speaker 2: amazing manners. And I don't know if that was written
Speaker 2: in scott or if you just have those manners.
Speaker 1: I do me personally, I do, Yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: Manners because like would that be written Luke picks up.
Speaker 1: Laura too many manners? Nobody nobody has manners anymore. I can.
Speaker 1: I can trouble a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's sometimes kind of like considered, sort of
Speaker 2: like I don't know what the word is overly?
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, well mannered. I don't know. They Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, what's the opposite of what's what's the male? Karen?
Speaker 1: A Ken? Whatever?
Speaker 4: Oh it's not a brad?
Speaker 1: Is it a brad? What's the I thought it was
Speaker 1: a brad. A brad st Ben, We'll call it Brady.
Speaker 1: There's yeah, I'm now.
Speaker 4: Do you still do? Okay, so this is kind of an.
Speaker 1: Son does too. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: Do you still do when you're say, you're at a
Speaker 2: restaurant and your wife gets up to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 2: do you stand up?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No one does that one again.
Speaker 1: Actually, it's kind of it depends on the restaurant.
Speaker 4: If you're in and out made not.
Speaker 3: Like if you're at the Cheesecake factory you stand up
Speaker 3: when she stands up to go the bath or.
Speaker 2: Not probably at Cheesecake, but if you're at like Craig's
Speaker 2: or something, maybe like that was the.
Speaker 4: Old school way, like.
Speaker 2: When the lady got up to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 2: all the men would stand.
Speaker 4: I think I'm getting that right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Never, I've never seen that.
Speaker 1: Well not, of course you're not going to see it
Speaker 1: and count.
Speaker 4: Not around as much.
Speaker 2: That's what about always do you always open your That
Speaker 2: one's kind of gone away too with the click clicking.
Speaker 1: Open the door for her. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 4: I do see that from time to.
Speaker 3: My husband makes me walk on the inside of absolutely,
Speaker 3: that's they so annoyed. If I don't like he will
Speaker 3: physically moves.
Speaker 4: That's a good one anyway, I digress.
Speaker 2: But Luke is extraordinarily well mannered and seems very at
Speaker 2: ease to me.
Speaker 1: But but that isn't that doesn't come from privilege. That
Speaker 1: just comes from parenting. He's a Northeasterner, and they people
Speaker 1: have manners and manners.
Speaker 2: Well because your parents, your kid has manners because you're
Speaker 2: teaching him the manners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm no, but I'm talking about the show now. Yeah. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: because he's around manners. He grew up around manners exactly
Speaker 1: exactly it's expected. So it's uncouth not to display manners
Speaker 1: in that part of the world.
Speaker 2: I did love the brilliance of the beer sounding one
Speaker 2: way to me and you when we're listening the first time,
Speaker 2: and the difference same thing with Rustic, Like what do
Speaker 2: you think of this whole thing?
Speaker 3: Roastick and charming. I think she said.
Speaker 1: She's a she's a killer man. She had her laser,
Speaker 1: she had her her phaser set on stun and she
Speaker 1: kept firing laser beams at Luke and he just took it.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have any comeback. He's not They
Speaker 1: tried to portray him in that scene. As you know,
Speaker 1: he's a good guy, he's unsophisticated. He's not prepared to
Speaker 1: deal with that volley of insults, you know, these thinley
Speaker 1: veiled insults coming at him constantly.
Speaker 2: So, you know, do you think he sees the best
Speaker 2: in people so that he would just assume like who
Speaker 2: would ever behave the way she behaved around it?
Speaker 1: He's not used to it, you know, And who would
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Who would invite someone to their home for dinner to
Speaker 2: just beat s h I t t y to because.
Speaker 1: She's still delusional enough to think that she Laurela I
Speaker 1: is vulnerable to her charms and her influence, and she's
Speaker 1: still trying to influence her daughter. She's still trying to
Speaker 1: correct the mistakes she feels Laurel I made with Christopher
Speaker 1: so she doesn't do it again with this guy. She
Speaker 1: still wants to get it right right. She wants she
Speaker 1: wants Lourlai with somebody that's appropriate, and it goes against
Speaker 1: every every fiber of her being that Laurli keeps dragging
Speaker 1: in these guys that you know, you know, it's interesting inappropriate.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting is she did not really fight back
Speaker 3: on her being with Digger. It was Richard that put
Speaker 3: the kebache on that because he kind of essentially stabbed
Speaker 3: him in the back. But Emily was upset about it, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And as we see later in this episode, Richard has
Speaker 3: a different experience with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you guys about that. I
Speaker 2: actually think Emily is far worse than Richard.
Speaker 4: I agree with you. Emily is horrible.
Speaker 2: Where Richard's just trying to mold Luke into something more
Speaker 2: of his caliber.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I think.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna let him do what he wants
Speaker 3: to do, but let me make it even better for him. Everyone,
Speaker 3: like I think, And.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let Laurelay do what she wants to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if because if Luke is franchised and wealthy,
Speaker 1: and and and and we can talk stock options and
Speaker 1: do you want to how much stock are you going
Speaker 1: to buy in Luke's diner's chain this kind of thing
Speaker 1: at the club. At least Richard won't be so embarrassed
Speaker 1: and he and he can and he can have bragging,
Speaker 1: right said, I made this guy, and Richard's gonna get
Speaker 1: a piece. Obviously he's not going to do this for free.
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna get a neck mistake. And it's like,
Speaker 1: now I can play golf with him, Now he can
Speaker 1: come to the club. This is how Laurel I is.
Speaker 1: You know, these are the this is these are the
Speaker 1: menu items, no pun intended that Laurel I is offering us.
Speaker 1: You know, this is our life too. So she's either
Speaker 1: going to completely destroy it and we have to ignore
Speaker 1: her and that would be sad, right, you know, because
Speaker 1: she's too toxic, or we're going to mold one of
Speaker 1: her gentlemen friends into something that we can stomach.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still think what he's doing is gross.
Speaker 2: But what Emily is doing is she doesn't care that
Speaker 2: her daughter's happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not even she doesn't she doesn't.
Speaker 4: She doesn't care that her daughters.
Speaker 1: She knows, she knows deep down, Laurela I will never
Speaker 1: be happy with any of these people that's in her mind.
Speaker 1: In Emily's mind, she can't even entertain the idea of
Speaker 1: being happy with somebody like that. It's just a completely
Speaker 1: different mindset. So she doesn't understand her own daughter obviously.
Speaker 2: I mean, I actually started off because Luke gets a
Speaker 2: little up in lore lies grill, like you're making me
Speaker 2: look weak, like you know whatever. And then it's like
Speaker 2: obviously a full one eighty because at first I did think, oh,
Speaker 2: Emily's you know, into this and being cool, and then
Speaker 2: you realize, like right when she said, oh, you're recently divorced,
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, gosh, do.
Speaker 3: You want another beer?
Speaker 2: You know the way she could, I mean props because
Speaker 2: the acting is amazing, because she was able to turn
Speaker 2: two words that sounded fine into garbage.
Speaker 4: You're like somehow rustic, like I love what he's all.
Speaker 2: It did sound like a crap pile when she said
Speaker 2: at that time, it's like and it did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the clue, the real clue for me, for Luke,
Speaker 1: the you know, the real window into his soul to
Speaker 1: what kind of guy he is is when he offered
Speaker 1: when she said, you know, it looks so good. It's
Speaker 1: nice and frosty. That beer. I almost almost makes me
Speaker 1: want to have one myself. And he said, well, you
Speaker 1: want some of mine, So there you go, right, there
Speaker 1: you go. I mean, he's not clever with her. He
Speaker 1: seems to be relaxed, he doesn't seem to be nervous
Speaker 1: with her, but he doesn't know what to say to her.
Speaker 1: He doesn't how to interact with her, so he uses
Speaker 1: this sort of put on politeness. Well thank you, Emily.
Speaker 1: You know, this kind of thing to create a distance
Speaker 1: and is a protective shield. But when he offers her
Speaker 1: that beer, he's really showing her who he is, Like
Speaker 1: he just doesn't get what's going on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, wow, Yeah, I didn't think of that, but
Speaker 2: it's interesting that you say.
Speaker 4: That, right, he is.
Speaker 2: It didn't dawn on him until the end when they
Speaker 2: walk out.
Speaker 1: Then he's like, I mean then it just continued and
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Well, Laura, I did tell him like, she you know,
Speaker 3: that's a dish. She's offering you a beer, like, not
Speaker 3: a scotch, not a whiskey.
Speaker 1: But at dinner when they had dinner, she just she
Speaker 1: just drilled them.
Speaker 4: Then she was just hammered.
Speaker 1: And then he then he his eyes were opened up
Speaker 1: and he realized. But her him offering that beer was like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's his crude way of oh, gosh, I'll
Speaker 1: make nice with Emily or something and maybe she'll leave me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's like, wow, guy, you know that's
Speaker 1: well and.
Speaker 2: Also wow, lady, wow lady, that you invite this guy
Speaker 2: to your house to just be awful gross.
Speaker 4: That was gross.
Speaker 1: Well that's fun for Emily. That's that's fun for her.
Speaker 1: You know, she gets to take him apart and she
Speaker 1: gets to show off for Laura. I. And do you
Speaker 1: think do you think there was a part of laurel
Speaker 1: I that liked that. No, you don't think there was
Speaker 1: any part of Laurea I.
Speaker 4: I think she likes that.
Speaker 2: She was right that her mom was bleepy, and she
Speaker 2: called it out and said, my mom sucks.
Speaker 5: It sucks, right if she if she really likes Luke,
Speaker 5: maybe loves Luke, why didn't she get angry with her
Speaker 5: mother in the moment.
Speaker 2: I think she she I don't think she wanted to
Speaker 2: embarrass Luke. I think she did that because Luke said
Speaker 2: just she tried. She started to kind of call her out,
Speaker 2: and then Luke was like, no, no, no, don't do that,
Speaker 2: like you're making me look weak, and so she's like, all.
Speaker 1: Right, when when the follys were coming faster and more furious.
Speaker 3: She was listening to Luke, I agree with you.
Speaker 4: She did what you asked, and then when you come outside.
Speaker 1: She's like, what would you do in that situation, Danielle,
Speaker 1: what would you do? Amy? In that situation? What would
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 3: I would have done what she did exactly, and I
Speaker 3: would have done what she did too, Like I was
Speaker 3: trying really hard. She was trying really hard to you know,
Speaker 3: shield Emily, and then he told her to back off politely.
Speaker 3: Back she's being respectful, and so she's backing off.
Speaker 2: She didn't even want to go to the dinner. She
Speaker 2: was like, we should not do this, and you were
Speaker 2: the one that was like.
Speaker 3: Of course, that's kind of a cop out, Like that's
Speaker 3: annoying that she said that, because it's like it's gonna
Speaker 3: happen one day, you know, like you're dating this guy.
Speaker 3: Your parents are going to want to meet him.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe, but like they've met him, they met
Speaker 2: him many times, I know.
Speaker 4: But you're just gonna keep.
Speaker 3: This guy and you're gonna keep getting more serious and
Speaker 3: it's just gonna because she never did.
Speaker 2: She knows what's gonna happen, and it's exactly what she
Speaker 2: said would happen.
Speaker 1: Happens like a like a modern day adult version of
Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, is it could destroy
Speaker 2: Luke and Laura Lai. Potentially it didn't and it hasn't
Speaker 2: and it may not. But there are a lot of
Speaker 2: couples where if the parents treated the person like that,
Speaker 2: that the boyfriend would just be like.
Speaker 4: I'm out girl. Like, Yes, probably not in.
Speaker 2: This case because they have so much history and they've
Speaker 2: waited so many years for this. But in a new relationship,
Speaker 2: if you went to your parents' house and their psycho,
Speaker 2: the dude is out.
Speaker 1: But maybe Luke is just so cool that he was
Speaker 1: he knew what was going on. He's willing to take it,
Speaker 1: and because he loves her and.
Speaker 4: He doesn't seem upset by it.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, and he was maybe expecting that a little
Speaker 1: bit well.
Speaker 2: And if he was so upset by it, he wouldn't
Speaker 2: have gone to golf. He's taken another Now he knows
Speaker 2: he's gonna get it again, and he's like, I'll go
Speaker 2: oh yeah, My only we'll get to the golf, but
Speaker 2: we have to talk about something else. But my only
Speaker 2: flag on the plan on the golf is Luke wouldn't
Speaker 2: have worn jeans.
Speaker 4: He knows better.
Speaker 1: Well, they wouldn't have let him on the course, right.
Speaker 4: That was like he would have worn the right opone.
Speaker 1: Would have gone to the pro shop and said you
Speaker 1: can't play in jeans, you know, proper plants.
Speaker 4: With his bag. He would have his credit card obviously
Speaker 4: by the club.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the one scene we missed sort of in
Speaker 2: the midst of the dinner, it goes back and forth
Speaker 2: to Rory gets the voicemail from Dean that he can't
Speaker 2: have plans, and she gets the envelope that says, like
Speaker 2: being the vestibule blindfolded.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a fantastic contrast of options that she had
Speaker 1: to weigh? Meet her at meet Dean at a truck
Speaker 1: stop and maybe they get a six dollars surfing turf
Speaker 1: versus the mystery romance guy with the foodles of cash.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, speaking of how.
Speaker 4: Insane, insane is the right word.
Speaker 2: When Emily is saying diners serve road and poor Luke
Speaker 2: is just like, yeah, well, we don't serve roadkill like
Speaker 2: I would have been like, what planet are you on.
Speaker 1: Kill? That wouldn't we wouldn't serve that. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was ugly. It got ugly in that dining room,
Speaker 1: beautiful dining room it yeah.
Speaker 4: So okay, So then Rory's blindfolded.
Speaker 1: House, seriously, isn't it.
Speaker 4: So we get Rory blindfolded ace.
Speaker 2: You ready, he's really sticking with the ace, which I
Speaker 2: couldn't be happier about.
Speaker 4: Gorilla girls in the car. She finds out it's an
Speaker 4: overnight thing. She's just like, I don't even know what's happening.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then and then we go to the diner where
Speaker 2: Luke gets the call about the golf thing, which just
Speaker 2: oh good god, yeah he's going. The only other thing
Speaker 2: I had on the sort of fuzzy timeline is they
Speaker 2: pick her up, and I swear one of those guys says,
Speaker 2: oh boy, it's early and then suddenly it's dark, like
Speaker 2: were they on a nine hour road trip?
Speaker 4: Like I don't think so, So that was my only thing, like.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, well he did say that she would be picked
Speaker 1: up at what four in the afternoon?
Speaker 6: Four?
Speaker 2: Okay, So it wasn't early, So I don't know why
Speaker 2: I want I swear I thought one of those dudes said, oh,
Speaker 2: it's early, but what else.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of early. It's still daylight around that time, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's November, so you figure by six it's dark.
Speaker 2: So it's a two hour drive, maybe an hour and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: So then we get there and she does have a
Speaker 2: funny line like is there are you taking me to
Speaker 2: a firing school? And then it's just so cool when
Speaker 2: she's unblind, so cool.
Speaker 1: Where did they film that, like, I well, obviously it
Speaker 1: was California. I mean you could see the burn.
Speaker 4: I mean that they just found forrest. But it was
Speaker 4: so like, I said, that's the glamping we all want
Speaker 4: to go on.
Speaker 3: It was like I want to go there now.
Speaker 1: You know, like so totally yeah, that's how you do
Speaker 1: camping right there, That's that's how you do it.
Speaker 3: And all their outfits, everyone's in cream and neutrals, and
Speaker 3: it's just like so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only the young can do it like that, you imagineers, and.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have been kind of concerned about
Speaker 2: my hair. But so then we see Lorelei at the
Speaker 2: inn and she's wearing the green vest, which I have
Speaker 2: a question about.
Speaker 4: But she says to Richard, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: And he's all mad because of the secret dinner and
Speaker 2: that her blabberbouth made told told his valete.
Speaker 4: And it's just like, oh my god. And then then
Speaker 4: just have a good protocol because memory goes. I'm just
Speaker 4: following protocol. Have a good protocol.
Speaker 2: Like it's just oh god, here's my question about that scene.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if either of you're gonna be
Speaker 2: on it. So she's wearing the tight green vest. It's
Speaker 2: so cute with a button down shirt under it. No way,
Speaker 2: if you try to wear a vest over a button
Speaker 2: down first of all, you're gonna have so many like lumpies, right,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be sweltering hot.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was very cute, but I just somehow they're pinning
Speaker 2: that or doing something because it would never lay flat
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you've got you've got wardrobe assistance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because if we all try to, like if
Speaker 2: I try to put on a tight green sweater vest
Speaker 2: over this, I'm gonna beat this.
Speaker 4: And you won't be able to do this. You're just
Speaker 4: like it's a mess anyway.
Speaker 2: So okay, so then we get talk to me about
Speaker 2: what you guys think about Logan and Rory sort of
Speaker 2: at this.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, I was surprised that she was going around asking
Speaker 1: questions like a journalist. I was like, boy, this, I
Speaker 1: know this is not gonna This doesn't bode well for
Speaker 1: her future. I mean, you know they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Actually as the journalists like you know, camouflage in the.
Speaker 4: Crowd, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Why was it so clumsy?
Speaker 4: I agree, I thought she was. She's sort of a
Speaker 4: bad journalist.
Speaker 3: Your notebook away and like before I go to bed,
Speaker 3: write it all down.
Speaker 4: You know, exactly, and wear what they're wearing and blend
Speaker 4: in so they tell you stuff.
Speaker 1: She flips out of you know, her little notebook and
Speaker 1: write asking direct questions like yeah, it was not not
Speaker 1: a clever way to get information out of No.
Speaker 4: And I feel like she's better than that.
Speaker 3: The no ease really like I thought about him, like,
Speaker 3: can I talk without saying ease? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Well, it would be funny, I guess I don't think so.
Speaker 1: You might.
Speaker 2: You might do it.
Speaker 4: You might do it. I can do it, get it,
Speaker 4: you might do it. I can do it has no right,
Speaker 4: no good good friend say a sentence.
Speaker 1: Without any in it. Yeah, uh, I'll pass. Thanks.
Speaker 4: It is hard. It is hard. You did hard pass.
Speaker 1: I am doing it.
Speaker 4: I am doing it.
Speaker 3: But can you carry that on for a whole like
Speaker 3: for this whole podcast, for the rest of this podcast?
Speaker 4: Can you carry I might try, I might try.
Speaker 1: Please don't it's I need showers and hotel rooms, got
Speaker 1: order rooms. Don't do it? Did good so far? Not really?
Speaker 1: Not really. It sounds like a chat. But now, what's happening?
Speaker 1: Suck you Robinson? What's happening?
Speaker 4: I am trying. You don't try.
Speaker 1: I just said I'll pass their boney said, give me
Speaker 1: a sentence. I delivered. What do you want from me?
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 1: Hard to do it. It is boring to listen to
Speaker 1: you attempted.
Speaker 4: I shall stop doing it soon.
Speaker 1: Hoorah, hoorrah, hoorah. You Scott.
Speaker 4: All should try it hot Oh now now I can't
Speaker 4: stop it. I am stuck doing it.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm somebody reaching.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's stop. It's actually starting to kind of make me.
Speaker 2: It's making me a little anxious. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I started to making I'm not gonna lie it. Actually
Speaker 2: I started to have a moment where I was like,
Speaker 2: is my brain gonna be able to stop this? Like
Speaker 2: I actually I actually started having a panic at because
Speaker 2: it made me a little and nuts.
Speaker 4: That wasn't actually fun because I was trying so hard
Speaker 4: and thinking it so hard. Oh I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't like how I feel right now, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we're going to take a commercial break now, please, yes.
Speaker 4: Please please. With all the ease that have ever existed.
Speaker 1: Have you ever wanted to pet you could call your well,
Speaker 1: welcome to dog Emporium and we're back, okay?
Speaker 4: Do im so?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: In the midst of all this, we get the dates.
Speaker 2: Its Zach and Lane very cute, you look cute. Let's
Speaker 2: let's hang out. Let's get a pizza, you know.
Speaker 4: And as we talked about then, Brian just blops right
Speaker 4: in and.
Speaker 1: He's like, all great stuff. It's nice to watch people connect.
Speaker 1: It's it's really nice thing on TV and TV shows.
Speaker 4: I love what he says, should we leave your room
Speaker 4: empty in case the date goes well?
Speaker 6: And she's like, you can go to my room, And
Speaker 6: then we go kind of right back to.
Speaker 2: The The Life and Death brigade whatever we're calling that party,
Speaker 2: and uh, that was where really Rory was not being
Speaker 2: a great journalist. Yeah, but there is so cute when
Speaker 2: he comes over. Remember when he comes over and I
Speaker 2: think she even says like, I'm not hungry, and he's
Speaker 2: like this is for me, Like everything is just he's
Speaker 2: so studley he can't be sort of taken sideways by her.
Speaker 2: And he gives her the rules, which I thought were good,
Speaker 2: and I love how he said there was like they've
Speaker 2: done some naughty things in the past, so no pictures, right, naughty.
Speaker 4: I love the word naughty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the this is the beginning of you know,
Speaker 1: they're establishing their tribe will be with them their whole lives.
Speaker 2: So then we go back to the date and we
Speaker 2: do get the kiss between Lane and Zach.
Speaker 4: So what what is everybody's vibe on them?
Speaker 1: I think it works. It's good. You know, the kiss worked.
Speaker 1: They both seem like they're truly kiss worked. I agree,
Speaker 1: digging each other it was good. The whole thing was good.
Speaker 1: I like this diechnamic between them too. Now you know,
Speaker 1: before to me it was just eh, but now it's
Speaker 1: paying off, you know, getting better. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I got some good chuckles out of it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Todd got to show another side of his skill set.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, you know, he's very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that that's kind of the main thing too,
Speaker 2: is like he's not just a one trick pony anymore.
Speaker 4: Like we're getting like some layers to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. They're good together. You know, they're good together.
Speaker 1: And he's really you know, he's playing this character. So
Speaker 1: it's a it's fun to watch. It really is fun
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 4: So then what did you think.
Speaker 2: We go back to the forest or wherever we are,
Speaker 2: and she's in her same clothes and he goes like,
Speaker 2: you need to change your clothes and she's like, I
Speaker 2: don't have any clothes, and he's like, we'll go back
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 4: How he got the.
Speaker 3: Note he's there, he said it will interfere with the
Speaker 3: integrity of the events.
Speaker 4: Right, look again, Ace.
Speaker 1: Oh, he said, he said, I always had I for
Speaker 1: such dress sizes totally.
Speaker 4: And she looked great. She looked great. Smooth, smooth, you.
Speaker 1: Know that's uh, that's Pierce Brasian territory, you know. In
Speaker 1: that movie.
Speaker 4: Remember, in addition to the human clay pigeons. Did you
Speaker 4: see them, They're like carrying around those carriage things.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well playing polo. The girls were playing polo,
Speaker 3: but the guys horses.
Speaker 1: Essentially, they were the guys were the horses.
Speaker 4: Who thinks of this? Like literally it was amazing.
Speaker 2: I did notice though, that Matt slash logan he's doing something.
Speaker 2: Oh when he was shooting the clay pigeons and then
Speaker 2: he has to pull his tux down shooting the pigeon,
Speaker 2: but it was a human pull his tucks down.
Speaker 1: This is this isn't a this isn't a group of
Speaker 1: people that like, you know, goes to Vegas on breaks
Speaker 1: and twerks, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Right, we go to Vegas in a private jet for
Speaker 4: one night, you.
Speaker 1: Know, all over the pool. Uh yeah, yeah, they're doing.
Speaker 2: Imagine being Matt Zukri though, and you are kind of
Speaker 2: like this is one of his earlier roles. I think
Speaker 2: he'd done a few things and suddenly I mean you
Speaker 2: this is a major part. Yeah, and it's a big
Speaker 2: old deal and you're coming in in this whole thing.
Speaker 4: I mean that would have.
Speaker 1: Been oh sure, yeah, I mean it opened up all
Speaker 1: the doors for him. He did all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: After Gilmour, he did that lawyer show with the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did the Good Wife, The Good Wife and
Speaker 4: then the Resident.
Speaker 1: Right. I mean it's been he hasn't stopped working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was so great in this part. Is this part
Speaker 1: was written for him. He was perfect in it. Perfect.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So then we go out to the gall and Luke's
Speaker 2: and jeans, which he wouldn't uh, would have happened.
Speaker 4: The club's got to go buy clubs.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a hot mess, wouldn't happen.
Speaker 4: I did love the conversation between you and the cat.
Speaker 4: Give me a hobby quick. He's like, I think the.
Speaker 3: Club and then Katy's like, no, don't do it, don't
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: What are you reading?
Speaker 1: Dick, Dick somebody that fell flat for me? Oh no.
Speaker 4: When Richard said I'll bring Dick up on the internet, I.
Speaker 3: Will say I did really want Luke to just like
Speaker 3: be a pro, like just annihilate the golf course like
Speaker 3: I wanted that. Yeah, that would be good, right, like
Speaker 3: just show everybody there in his jeans and rented golf
Speaker 3: clubs like that would have made me so happy.
Speaker 4: That would have been that.
Speaker 1: That would have and I forgot what had happened, and
Speaker 1: I was really hoping for that to just like nail
Speaker 1: a three hundred yard drive right down the middle.
Speaker 4: And actually would have been kind of good. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: think that would have been better. And I mean the
Speaker 4: whole shaving thing.
Speaker 2: And then there was a funny callback where I can't
Speaker 2: remember Laura asked somebody, what are men shaving?
Speaker 4: And but I don't know, Richard a horse's at.
Speaker 1: Let's let's know he wasn't. Let's talk about this. Can
Speaker 1: we just dissect this a little bit? Please? Why would
Speaker 1: a man okay, you, you helped me with this. Why
Speaker 1: would a man in his forties as Luke was back then,
Speaker 1: as I was back then, look askance at an opportunity
Speaker 1: that huge, because that's a dream scenario. That's, like, Luke,
Speaker 1: a working class guy somehow managed to get to that
Speaker 1: place with that guy on that golf course, and this
Speaker 1: guy offering his entire arsenal of friends to set him
Speaker 1: up in a franchise with with an IPO with stock
Speaker 1: selling stock. It's a dream scenario.
Speaker 2: Like who he's coming off the dinner with Emily, so
Speaker 2: he sort of knows what they're all about.
Speaker 4: And to Luke, doesn't want a franchise.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: Why because he's happy and he's got a ton of money,
Speaker 2: which we cannot argue.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ton of money. He does not
Speaker 1: have a ton of money.
Speaker 4: He suddenly has.
Speaker 2: He's got hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank
Speaker 2: because he whipped out thirty thousand dollars cash for Loralai
Speaker 2: with no problem of He's definitely got a quarter of
Speaker 2: a million dollars.
Speaker 4: In the bank, definitely, And he likes his life. He
Speaker 4: doesn't want nine diners.
Speaker 1: So he's not a tighte egg.
Speaker 4: Luke could have been anything.
Speaker 1: No, he couldn't have I agree. His education was very limited,
Speaker 1: so he couldn't have been anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's plenty of people whose educations are super
Speaker 4: limited that are.
Speaker 1: He can't whip off the name of a book on
Speaker 1: a golf course.
Speaker 4: But that doesn't make you successful like Luke. There's no
Speaker 4: art even hurt correct, But Luke is successful. He rushed that,
Speaker 4: but obviously successful. He has more money than he.
Speaker 1: He's a guy. He's a guy who doesn't want more.
Speaker 2: Well, he wanted he bought the building next door when
Speaker 2: that opportunity presented itself. But I don't think he wants
Speaker 2: to run around like he owns, you know, forty two
Speaker 2: diners and has to travel all the time.
Speaker 4: He doesn't want that. He doesn't want that. He likes
Speaker 4: his life and look, like I said, he is an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: He's bought, you know, he owns that candy shoppy or
Speaker 2: the ice cream shoppy.
Speaker 4: Like he has money. He's successful and he's smart with
Speaker 4: the money. He doesn't want to know.
Speaker 1: I grant you that. I grant you that, But how
Speaker 1: many times in your life is a guy like that
Speaker 1: going to have that kind of an opportunity?
Speaker 4: True?
Speaker 2: But I think the words of whatever movie say anything,
Speaker 2: it's a conscious choice, Lloyd. Like literally, Luke is making
Speaker 2: the choice. He could have done other things. I think
Speaker 2: he consciously chose. I want this diner.
Speaker 4: I want it to be successful.
Speaker 2: I want to have money, which he does, but he
Speaker 2: doesn't want He's satisfied.
Speaker 4: He wants that diner and the love of a girl.
Speaker 1: He's young, He's worked too hard. He needs to you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's he's got to think of
Speaker 1: his future, don't you think? Or he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: work so.
Speaker 4: Hard money that you don't see Luke I.
Speaker 1: Do see Luke, I see it, but that particular scene
Speaker 1: was problematic for me, and for me I think it
Speaker 1: tracks because I want but that's an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: on Easy Street. Yeah. So he's working like a like
Speaker 1: a dog every day in that diner, right, and he's
Speaker 1: making I mean, he's getting by. He's making a little money,
Speaker 1: that's fine, he's putting it away. He's being very crugal.
Speaker 1: He's not making a lot of money.
Speaker 4: Diners don't make, but he's definitely got a solid nested use.
Speaker 1: For your restaurants and the grocery chains are the margins
Speaker 1: are one percent, two percent, It's really true.
Speaker 4: I think I think Luke's doing fine. I think here's
Speaker 4: my mention for you.
Speaker 1: But but what about any kind of long term plans
Speaker 1: he has with Laurel I and maybe he wants to
Speaker 1: have kids or you know whatever.
Speaker 3: He's got money, Correct me if I'm wrong. He didn't
Speaker 3: say no, so it's not that like right, like, he's
Speaker 3: not saying no, I don't want to do that. He's
Speaker 3: actually entertaining it with yes.
Speaker 2: But also why does he have to say yes? Why
Speaker 2: are we not just proud of Luke exactly how he
Speaker 2: is I am. I think that dude's great just how
Speaker 2: he is. He's successful, he's kind. I think Luke is
Speaker 2: happy as he is, and I respect that. I respect
Speaker 2: that he's like doesn't need that.
Speaker 3: I think he's happy too, Like I think he has
Speaker 3: a successful business and and loves what he does. But
Speaker 3: I do think like he he wouldn't be mad at
Speaker 3: taking the extra like I don't think like. I don't think.
Speaker 1: He's like, look sixty five, seventy years old, he's going
Speaker 1: to look back and say, damn, I wish I'd have
Speaker 1: done that, because at that point it's it might be
Speaker 1: tough sledding for him, you know, I don't think he can.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Look, I think when business opportunities present themselves, like buying
Speaker 2: the building next door, he does it. And he's perfectly
Speaker 2: like solid solvent whatever the word is.
Speaker 1: We got to do a deep dive. We ought to
Speaker 1: do a deep dive on his net worth, and I
Speaker 1: bet you I'll do it. Okay, I can do it
Speaker 1: right now, because you'd have to value a building in.
Speaker 4: The place that he starts two buildings in Washington.
Speaker 1: Washington Depot, Connecticut in two thousand and four or five,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, what would be the cost.
Speaker 4: Of that building quarter of a million.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm saying each of those buildings probably was a quarter
Speaker 4: of a million then.
Speaker 1: Was now commercial real estate is blowing up in twenty.
Speaker 4: Twenty three, or now he's worth three million dollars Luke today.
Speaker 1: He's not worth three million?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he is, Yes he is, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He owns the diner, which is successful. He also owns
Speaker 2: the dirt, He owns the building, and he got it
Speaker 2: given to him so he didn't have to He's not
Speaker 2: upside down in the diner.
Speaker 4: Right, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's not paying rent.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 1: They give you very toxic assets in this day and age,
Speaker 1: because that's why all these regional bass are blowing up,
Speaker 1: because they have all the commercial real estate holdings.
Speaker 4: What he owns a piece of the inn, so they
Speaker 4: own the inn now, so it's been twenty years. The
Speaker 4: inn is I'm assuming quite successful too. They definitely have
Speaker 4: a net worth of three million dollars one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I don't obviously lower lines no matter because she's
Speaker 2: getting all the money from the gill Wars.
Speaker 4: But on their own they're worth three million dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that could that could stop any day. I mean,
Speaker 1: that could end at any moment.
Speaker 4: The money from the Gilmoores, Well, I just think, if.
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity, you know, if you're a man
Speaker 1: in your mid forties and you're working like a dog,
Speaker 1: and you've got this kind of a golden opportunity, why
Speaker 1: not jump at it. He doesn't want it, I know that,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to see him want it. I'd like
Speaker 1: to see him do it. That would be an interesting storyline.
Speaker 1: Tell me it wouldn't say for sure, for sure, but
Speaker 1: why do you You could fail along the way, but
Speaker 1: it would be fun to try.
Speaker 4: I like him how he is to take it.
Speaker 3: I want him to take the meetings and like entertain
Speaker 3: it and like talk about it and like do all
Speaker 3: the things and then and then decide, you know what,
Speaker 3: I love what I got.
Speaker 4: I don't need more, Laura.
Speaker 1: I want him to right and causes conflict between Laurelai
Speaker 1: and himself and it's like, well, you're not the guy
Speaker 1: I met, and what's going what happened to you? And
Speaker 1: you know, he comes back with us. He takes a
Speaker 1: trip to Wall Street. They wanted to you know, some
Speaker 1: of the bankers want to talk to him suit. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: look he's not bad looking. We'll put his face right
Speaker 1: on the menu. Look, thanks a lot. Now, if you
Speaker 1: could go wait in the hallway, we'd like to talk
Speaker 1: some numbers here. You know this, Let's go back too.
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if I'm just hot
Speaker 2: or if I'm having a hot flash, but.
Speaker 4: I'm hot all the time. I have myself right now.
Speaker 2: So any shout out to anyone amongst yourselves, Shout out
Speaker 2: to the fifty year old ladies out there who were
Speaker 2: hot all the time.
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's go back.
Speaker 1: To thest any hunter and here I could use a
Speaker 1: big fan.
Speaker 4: But go back to the.
Speaker 2: Jump, because what did you guys think when you see
Speaker 2: that whole thing?
Speaker 1: It scared the water out of me. Man, I don't
Speaker 1: like heights. It made me feel a little loozy.
Speaker 3: And the climbing up the seventies any kind of man
Speaker 3: emergency landing?
Speaker 1: You know, she was hooked into a harness from the
Speaker 1: front of her. We couldn't sure, Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: It is when they jumped off, which I was okay with,
Speaker 3: but it was the going up.
Speaker 4: God, we gotta get Kenny on, Danielle. Can we email him?
Speaker 4: He wants to do it. Let's try it him again.
Speaker 4: I'm just go.
Speaker 1: That was the most hair raising, gnarly moment of the
Speaker 1: series so far, is all the jumping off of that thing,
Speaker 1: because they actually did it.
Speaker 4: Totally, they did it. Maybe they had stunt doubles, but
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Alexis Boodell and Matt did it.
Speaker 3: Holding wasn't seven stories.
Speaker 4: High though, like No, No. Three, they're holding hands too.
Speaker 4: Did you see that?
Speaker 1: Only would have taken it would have taken them a
Speaker 1: half hour to die instead of instantly, right, And.
Speaker 2: Then she says this is a once in a lifetime
Speaker 2: and he says, only if you want it to be,
Speaker 2: meaning we have a future.
Speaker 1: Right right? He's good man, you know, yeah, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that's his modus modus OPERENDI. I'm all scared, and
Speaker 1: then you know, move in for the killing.
Speaker 3: It's very symbolic guys like Rory is jumping. She's jump
Speaker 3: to this high.
Speaker 1: Class Daniel right right into his spider's web. Maybe who knows.
Speaker 4: Okay, So we have two scenes left.
Speaker 2: One one is the confrontation with Richard and Emily and
Speaker 2: like she's all mad and he's like I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to make bring this guy up to our level, like
Speaker 2: it's a whole hot mess. And then the there's a
Speaker 2: quick conversation between Lorli and Rory, and then Rory gets
Speaker 2: the knock at the door, and that, to me was.
Speaker 4: Such a cool ending, so quickly, let's talk about Emily
Speaker 4: and Richard. That's how I feel about it.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's they needed to have that scene because
Speaker 1: at least Richard has a strategy instead of trying to
Speaker 1: Emily trying to blow him out of the water, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, at least Richard has a modicum of of
Speaker 1: hees and a monoicum of respect for his daughter.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes they're both awful, but she's horrific. She
Speaker 4: is so nasty, and I don't like I.
Speaker 1: Think Emily just doesn't. Like I explained before, I just think.
Speaker 7: She's she's she's an historical revisionist and she wants to
Speaker 7: do over and she's she's constantly trying to intervene in
Speaker 7: these situations where she thinks she can affect some kind
Speaker 7: of positive.
Speaker 1: Change, like she should have done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She's she's she's that, she's that woman that just didn't
Speaker 1: couldn't get her daughter to behave the way she wanted her.
Speaker 1: Now she's gonna she's gonna keep trying till the day
Speaker 1: she dies. So it's kind of sad.
Speaker 4: Actually, yes, it is sad. I agree with you, Scott,
Speaker 4: and she is.
Speaker 1: And it is an odd way to display love. It's
Speaker 1: it's one of her ways of showing love is to
Speaker 1: be that monstrous. It's a it's a very twisted form
Speaker 1: of showing protective love for your child, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's just how she does it. Baby, I don't know
Speaker 1: what do I know anyway?
Speaker 2: So then what did you think at the end when
Speaker 2: we get to the door knock and the champagne is there,
Speaker 2: and the camera and the gorilla.
Speaker 1: Perfect just utter perfection. You see those little photos and
Speaker 1: you're like, man, this guy's unbelievable. This show is unbelievably great.
Speaker 1: It was just an it was a cherry on the
Speaker 1: top of the cake. It was.
Speaker 2: It takes all your strength to not watch the next one,
Speaker 2: every bit of strength you have.
Speaker 1: Hold me down. No, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna be patient,
Speaker 1: I'll be disciplined.
Speaker 4: I was too, but I wanted to stop. This is
Speaker 4: a real favorite for me this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it could be the favorite for me too.
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's full. Oh man, I mean, what are you grading it?
Speaker 1: And what's your measuring stick?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I get my.
Speaker 3: Measured digital cameras.
Speaker 4: Oh I was going to do.
Speaker 3: I mean doing nine point five?
Speaker 1: Why why deduct five? Because you just don't you just
Speaker 1: because the logan element, it's an automatic deduction for you,
Speaker 1: because you're biased, You've got some biased against the wealthy.
Speaker 3: The logan element in this actually was amazing, So like,
Speaker 3: I gotta give it to him, the lane and the
Speaker 3: lane ins acting. I'm not sold. It's getting better.
Speaker 4: I will say that.
Speaker 3: It's just every time I see them on I'm like, really,
Speaker 3: you were doing this right now?
Speaker 2: That's it. I'most ten ten strapless dresses with a blue
Speaker 2: a royal blue backwards scarf.
Speaker 1: What about you, Scott, I'm going to give it a yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: I mean it was so overwhelming great. I think it
Speaker 1: was actually an eleven or a twelve. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to have to deduct a couple of points. Yeah for
Speaker 1: the Luke author Dick thing. Whatever. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna I'll just have to We'll have to just settle
Speaker 1: on a ten ten out of ten, and I'm giving
Speaker 1: it ten human clay pigeons. Oh, because that's the greatest.
Speaker 1: That's the greatest thing I've ever seen on TV.
Speaker 4: What's next week?
Speaker 2: Next?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Why don't we have next week?
Speaker 3: We have five, Episode eight, The parties over.
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