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Speaker 1: Oh, good, time of tapers. Time to time down times.

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Speaker 1: The start of a new week here on one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: and it's the start of a big week. It's the

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Speaker 1: start of training camp week. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Orchard Park. We start the week in Orchard Park. We

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Speaker 1: will finish the week at Saint John Fisher College in

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Speaker 1: Rochester at the Buffalo Bills Training Camp. Hi, everybody, welcome.

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Speaker 1: We're right next door to new Airfield, John Murphy's team

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Speaker 1: tasker in our one Buffalo studio and welcome to three

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Speaker 1: hours of live unscripted Bills Talk. What are you laughing

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Speaker 1: about it? It's unscripted. Oh yeah, very much. Sol plan

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Steve is back out a couple of days

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Speaker 1: last week. I am back. We're here all week Monday,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday right here in Orchard Park at our

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Speaker 1: If Bill start on the field at nine forty five

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Speaker 1: am Thursday, their first training camp practice, their twentieth training

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Speaker 1: camp at Saint John Fisher College. We go on the

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Speaker 1: air Thursday in noon. We'll have a recap at one

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Speaker 1: one on a practice, maybe pick some of the highlights

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Speaker 1: and talk about some of the plays we saw. I

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Speaker 1: got some good guests in there. Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Another year of training camp. So if your second with

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Speaker 1: the show at training camp, yeah, it's only what eight

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Speaker 1: it's a fun show to be out there right in

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Speaker 1: There's always a ton of people over Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 1: It is fun to say hi to Peacher and get

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Speaker 1: a little routine of going over there. Eight shows isn't

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Speaker 1: gonna be but we will do more shows from training Camp.

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Speaker 1: But some of those shows are going to be down

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Speaker 1: in Carolina, as you see a few of those watching

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Thirteenth and fourteenth Tuesday down in Carolina?

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Speaker 1: Also the Carolina as well. They'll be we'll be in

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Speaker 1: you're tune in that week and watch a sweat oh man, right,

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Speaker 1: we're down there. We got a couple of weeks until then,

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Speaker 1: and we got a week of show. It's coming up.

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Speaker 1: A good couple of guests. Today, we're gonna talk with

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Speaker 1: Nate Davis from USA today, coming up at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: He is he has put together his prediction. He's got

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Speaker 1: the Bills eight and eight. He's got the entire league

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He went through. He actually put some

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Speaker 1: at one o'clock today. Nate Davis to USA today. Two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We are back here today after the weekend Steve and

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Speaker 1: Bison's games. We'll see, there's time, though, there is time

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Speaker 1: in front of me. Here what we're playing Thursday, Friday, Friday, Thursday, right, Thursday, Friday, Friday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: So those essentially there'll be some training camp time, but

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Speaker 1: So I'm I don't usually wear Bill's gear right when

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Speaker 1: good choices and see would you rather be smart or talk? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question, a really good question. It is

423
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Speaker 1: a good question. It's and it's that's one of our

424
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Speaker 1: what's for lunch questions? Right, I mean, what do you

425
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Speaker 1: want to You want to be smart or you want

426
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Speaker 1: to be tough? You know, it's it's interesting as a

427
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: football player. Yeah, as as a football player, you really

428
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 1: really desire to be both those. You know, you don't

429
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Speaker 1: want to be one of those guys label a king

430
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Speaker 1: get it, you know, you know, or doesn't learn or

431
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: doesn't get better. And certainly every guy wants to be tough,

432
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 1: wants to be considered tough, particularly by his peers. So

433
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: it's a really tough question. They acknowledge it's it's not

434
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Speaker 1: about the end, it's not about which one he picks.

435
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 1: It's about how he defends it, Yeah, and what he

436
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 1: thinks and what his reason is. It's pretty interesting stuff

437
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: about how they get to the bottom of these guys.

438
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: Those meetings with the players from the Combine and I

439
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 1: think there's some from Senior Bowl h critical and it's

440
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: a lot of work went into that. Our crew, many

441
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: of our crew were in those meetings for hours and

442
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: had to babysit those meetings and had to sort through

443
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: that video once they realized who the Bills were drafting

444
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,480
Speaker 1: and get the ones that meant something to Bills fans.

445
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Speaker 1: So that's that's a big part of it. I appreciate that.

446
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Speaker 1: We also I got a kudos to Michelle Girardi. Um.

447
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Speaker 1: She did a great job. She was the producer of

448
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Speaker 1: the whole thing and Ramrod of the whole thing, and

449
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: and it's really her project that she did, and she

450
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: she's inside the building here and also downtown a PSC

451
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 1: did a great job and us as getting the kudos

452
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Speaker 1: that she deserves for the for the work that you

453
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Speaker 1: did and her whole crew. I mean, they had now

454
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Speaker 1: you you've seen it. We kind of laugh about it sometimes. Man,

455
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: it was all hands on deck at times, because when

456
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: there's something going on and you got sixty three or

457
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 1: eighty five guys around for OTAs and being miked up

458
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: and wired, and you got coaches and you got players,

459
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: you want it. There's a lot going on at once

460
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: that you really want all of it. They want to

461
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Speaker 1: record all these guys, and there's only so many acts

462
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: short activities in this offseason, so they got you know,

463
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Speaker 1: it's all hands on deck. They got shooters and mike

464
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: people and sound people. They're running around, they're wiring guys,

465
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Speaker 1: and it's funny because the players are even on. They'll

466
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Speaker 1: show you they said, hey, they'll warn each other about

467
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Speaker 1: being miked it say, which I'm got the you know,

468
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: it's like okay, so they clean it up. I guess

469
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: for the cameras. It's pretty funny. You know what else,

470
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Speaker 1: and Michelle and her crew, you know what, I think

471
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Speaker 1: the real grunt work of a piece like that, pieces

472
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Speaker 1: like that, there's four different pieces. It's the editing. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: it's going through everything you've shot and you shot footage

474
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Speaker 1: so much, so many hours of stuff, and some of

475
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: them meaningful some of it, not edit it to go

476
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Speaker 1: through it and determine what means something, what says something,

477
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: what illuminates what the Buffalo bills are all about? What

478
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Speaker 1: if fans want to hear? That really would be the

479
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: hard part, and they do a great job. There's probably

480
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Speaker 1: some stuff too, and I don't I have no idea,

481
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Speaker 1: but I imagine McDermott and Brandon Bean they were like,

482
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Speaker 1: I don't want that, don't show that. We've got that part.

483
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Speaker 1: And let's talking about verbis. I don't want those words.

484
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Speaker 1: You can't hear him saying that, Yeah, you can't put

485
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Speaker 1: that in there. You can't put this in there. You

486
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Speaker 1: can't put that in there. You got to change that

487
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: because they you know, there's certainly things when you're miked

488
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Speaker 1: up at a practice, there are certain things that are

489
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Speaker 1: in there that are competitive. Yeah, even at this early

490
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Speaker 1: stage they say, you know, don't put that in. You know,

491
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Speaker 1: they're they're giving them a little ichnay on that. Sure,

492
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: and so she's, you know, she wants to put something

493
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Speaker 1: out there that she can be proud of. Michelle she

494
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Speaker 1: got and then she's under the constraints of whatever constraints

495
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Speaker 1: there are, like listener. You can't show this meeting or

496
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: that meeting or this meeting, but you can show this, this, this,

497
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: she's under those constraints. Then she's got people in the

498
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: house that she's got it, like, well, okay, but we

499
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Speaker 1: can't go this. We're not sending you to this on

500
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: this trip or that trip. You know. So they've got

501
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: all kinds of constraints and boundaries they got to work in.

502
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: Plus they got to get players to say, yeah, I'll

503
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: where Mike. Yeah, you know a lot of parts you

504
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: know Embedded season two it is up right now on

505
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Speaker 1: the Bills YouTube channel. What did you think? What's the

506
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: best thing you got out of watching Embedded Season two

507
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: last night or today? That's our topic for the day.

508
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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

509
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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

510
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: fifty lines open now. Or you can vote in the

511
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: Twitter pollum, you know the Twitter poll is up. Or

512
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: you can send in a tweet. Let's go to the

513
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

514
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. You want to start,

515
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Speaker 1: you want to get to the tweet sheets set going

516
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get it from Jim. The biggest thing

517
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I loved and took from this year is embedded was

518
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Speaker 1: the conversation between London Fletcher and Tremaine Edmonds. There's a

519
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys interested in football but not committed. When

520
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: you're on this level, you'll find out if you're committed,

521
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: you can't fake it. That was really interesting. There was

522
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Speaker 1: a quiet conversation between London Fletch. In fact, we had

523
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Speaker 1: London on the show the day he spoke to Tremaine.

524
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: They had the club had him in, he spoke to

525
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: the team and that kind of thing. But he spent

526
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Speaker 1: some quality time as it was filmed with Tremaine Edmonds

527
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Speaker 1: and they had to really sit down a guy who

528
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Speaker 1: played sixteen years in the National Football League and a

529
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Speaker 1: guy who was only nineteen years old when he was drafted.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting conversation. Yep from Sean on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: While the inner workings of the personnel decisions are fascinating,

532
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Speaker 1: I found the team culture dynamics to be in my

533
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: favorite part. The DNA that the staff talk about is

534
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: not just lip service. I'm even more confident that this

535
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: team is on the right trajectory now more than ever.

536
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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Because I know some

537
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: of the guy the guys here on gr you know,

538
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: show up in the Bulldog and those guys and I

539
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: don't even know if Howard and Jeremy in the morning.

540
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to get the instigators feel about what

541
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: culture means in that sport. This building is invested in that, yes,

542
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: big time. They they think it's important. Outside this building,

543
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I think people are split. Some people think it's important

544
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: obviously the guy who just tweeted in Sean does. Some

545
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: people think it's just lip service, doesn't mean anything, and

546
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: all of them, I think, believe that wins are what matters.

547
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: You can talk culture, culture, culture, culture, but if you

548
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: win two and lose fourteen, you don't want that culture.

549
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Don't talk to me about culture, right, That's not going

550
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: to happen with this group. I'm not saying they're gonna

551
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Speaker 1: win fourteen and lose two because they have culture. But

552
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Speaker 1: I do think that in his third year now, it's

553
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: head coach Sean McDermott has build a culture. I remember

554
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: having this discussion on this show two years ago. How

555
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: long will it take for him to build a culture.

556
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: I think he has build it. I think it's reflected

557
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Speaker 1: in the players they bring in, the players they draft,

558
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: the free agents they bring in. And yes, everybody says

559
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: the right thing from you know, March until July and

560
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: you go to camp, and yes, there will be difficult times.

561
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: There will be losses I had, There will be tough

562
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Speaker 1: losses ahead, and that culture gets tested when you know,

563
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: the blank hits the fan right, when people get when

564
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: people are ball bounces the wrong way with bad turn.

565
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: But they have built some culture here, and I think

566
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Speaker 1: it's important. And yes, I think it's reflected in uh

567
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Speaker 1: in embedded, I really do absolutely. And I me being

568
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: a guy who played I and a part of a

569
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: team that was very close knit, and the culture meant everything.

570
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: And even you know these now these you know a

571
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Speaker 1: couple of decades later, it still means it's the most

572
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: important thing. Now to the old guys like me, I

573
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: can see the difference it makes. Not in whatever it

574
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: means in the in the win lost column will never

575
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Speaker 1: be able to tell. We'll have to take players and

576
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Speaker 1: coaches words for it later on, because it seems like

577
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Speaker 1: you're you're playing good, you got good players, you should

578
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: win games. But there are certain times, as a player,

579
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: I remember where the cultures what gets you through even

580
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Speaker 1: in the midst of a game, And there are times

581
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Speaker 1: in a game when certain things wouldn't happen without culture,

582
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: without a standard being set of guys who are prepared enough,

583
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: who are committed enough, who are all in enough to

584
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Speaker 1: make a play, or to be in the right spot,

585
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: or to hustle on a play that seemed meaningless when

586
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: it began, or to in a certain situation, play in

587
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: such a way as to to be opportunistic. Culture breeds that,

588
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: and it is I think it's really part of what

589
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: makes great teams great, and what makes good teams good,

590
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: and what makes good teams play better than they are,

591
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: makes teams play better than the sum of their parts.

592
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, culture is an enormous thing, and

593
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 1: I think that the biggest selling point for me is there.

594
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: They certainly have built it here in Buffalo, There's no

595
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: question about it. And I think also it's easy for

596
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: a guy like Sean McDermott, it's easy guy for a

597
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: guy like Brandon Being to tell these guys who are

598
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: coming in as free agents, draft picks and whoever else

599
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: they're looking at, saying, not only is our culture of

600
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: our players are buying in. But look at this building.

601
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: Our owners are bought in. You know, the owners part

602
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: of it. The owners are in it neck deep. They've

603
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: spared no expense. And when the football people in this

604
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: building need something, they've they've proven they're gonna get it.

605
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: And man o, man there there's not that many franchises

606
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: out there. You can say that, there's some, no question,

607
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: there's some. But if the football people need certain things

608
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: in other in other cities, I know fact, they're like, no,

609
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: you ain't getting that right. I'm telling you. It is

610
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: hard not to see the uptick and the direction that

611
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: this franchise, this and the whole organization is headed. And

612
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: it's and it's uh, it's a real thing. And this

613
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: and embedded really gives you a glimpse into, you know,

614
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: at least the public part of it and some of

615
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: the private part of it. The new weight room, the

616
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: new player performance center is one of the stars I've

617
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: embedded really right at Oliver's Alexander, Josh Allen and that room,

618
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Speaker 1: that building right next door to us, that's a star.

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Speaker 1: People get an inside look at that and embedded it's

620
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. Yeah, it's not. And it's not by accident. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an important part of what happens. It's not by accident, certainly,

622
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Speaker 1: you know. It is a little bit and Brandon Bean

623
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: says it and embedded it's a little bit. It's the

624
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: recruiting process. You need free agents and guys who can

625
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: make a choice to come in and say, Wow, that's

626
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: exactly the atmosphere I've been looking for. That's what I

627
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: think a pro football team should look like. You get

628
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: guys coming in from other teams. I would really be

629
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Speaker 1: interested to hear what Tyler Croft has to say about

630
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere here coming from Cincinnati to here. I would

631
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Speaker 1: if we can get him on, I'm gonna ask him

632
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: about that, and he probably won't give us a trade

633
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: answercause nobody wants a bad mouth a place that they've

634
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Speaker 1: formerly worked publicly like you do in football, you know,

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Speaker 1: that stuff. But I'd love to hear what he has

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Speaker 1: to say because I you know, they're notoriously a little bit. Yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: they're notoriously like there. They have been for decades and

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Speaker 1: there's even stories about what it was like. And Mike

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Speaker 1: a different air back then, no question. But I'd love

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Speaker 1: to see what guys like that see and field differently

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Speaker 1: it's got to be tangibly real. For Hey, Embedded season

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Speaker 1: two it is up right now. You can catch it

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Speaker 1: on the Bills YouTube channel. Let us know if you've

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Speaker 1: seen it. I don't know what's the best thing you

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Speaker 1: got out of it? What's the best thing you got

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Speaker 1: the best thing you get out of it? We're just

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Speaker 1: getting rolled in here. We got a good show planned

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Speaker 1: for you on this week. When the Bills go to

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Speaker 1: training camp about a week and a half away, the

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Speaker 1: Bills get a practice session at New Airfield. It's the

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Speaker 1: a week from this Friday, Steve and I back with more.

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Speaker 1: We're just got started here One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bill's Live Chamber. If he was Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker here until three, You're gonna talk about the entire league.

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Speaker 1: At one o'clock with Nate Davis from USA Today, You're

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Speaker 1: going to talk with Jordan Ranan of ESPN dot com

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Speaker 1: about the Giants and about some other football issues coming up.

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Speaker 1: At two, Steve and I here to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Bills and particular embeted Season two aired last night. Still

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Speaker 1: up there Buffalo Bill's YouTube channel go to. You can

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Speaker 1: just get it from our website, Buffalo Bills dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you watched it, which I assume many of you did.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Bills fan, you should. What's the best

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Speaker 1: thing you got out of watching Buffalo Bills embet it.

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Speaker 1: That's our Twitter poll. Let me let you know what's

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter pole. Maybe you can make a selection

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Speaker 1: out of this what's the best thing you got out

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Speaker 1: of watching Buffalo Bills? Embedded right now. We've had a

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Speaker 1: couple of hundred votes in so far, and most of

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Speaker 1: you say it's the behind the scenes look at the

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Speaker 1: inner workings of personnel decisions. Fifty percent say that's it,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine percent say it's team culture, fifteen percent say

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Speaker 1: a closer look at the players off the field, six

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Speaker 1: percent say something else. Culture is interesting. Stephen eavesdrop you

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Speaker 1: and Pete Andrew Peters talking about team culture during the

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Speaker 1: break in the other room over there. What's he thinking? Well,

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Speaker 1: he we both have the same idea. Certainly, nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to work in a toxic work environment where people don't

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Speaker 1: like each other, they're trying to sabotage each other. And

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Speaker 1: think of doing your job as effectively as you can

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Speaker 1: with that kind of atmosphere where people aren't pulling in

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Speaker 1: the same direction and they're trying to you know, they're

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Speaker 1: trying to get a promotion, or they're trying to advance

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Speaker 1: their career, and maybe it's at your expense or whatever

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Speaker 1: in the office, the petty office politics that go on now.

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Speaker 1: And here's another aspect in why culture changes in football

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Speaker 1: and in sports generally speaking, that's different than normal everyday life.

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Speaker 1: Think about a toxic work environment and you think, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: everybody has that once in a while, or it happens

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Speaker 1: in businesses and they seem to do okay. Now, add

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Speaker 1: this to it. There's a physical component where you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go out there and you're going to risk your health,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go through some physical pain, you're gonna sacrifice

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Speaker 1: your health, your whatever, it's gonna hurt, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for that environment, for the people in that

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Speaker 1: environment who are trying to sabotage you, or trying to

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Speaker 1: stab in the back or don't like you, or have

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Speaker 1: you know, betrayed your trust or whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call or whatever thing happens, and you're gonna go out

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Speaker 1: there and put yourself in physical risk and compete physically

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Speaker 1: with big, strong athletes and compete for that. Yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: me how effective you think you're gonna be doing that

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Speaker 1: and how difficult that is and how easy would be

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Speaker 1: to check out? And once you have, for instance, even

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Speaker 1: if it's not everybody, or if it's just a handful

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Speaker 1: of key people on the team that have checked out,

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Speaker 1: you're done. You are absolutely done. Culture makes a big

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Speaker 1: difference because you have to have particularly in football, and

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Speaker 1: I'm in Andrew Peters out here was just telling hockey's

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Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, he's got to drop the

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Speaker 1: gloves for a guy who badmouthed him to the coach

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, there's just no way. And for me,

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Speaker 1: it was easy for me to run down the football

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Speaker 1: field and jump into the into the maw of a

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Speaker 1: wedge for a guy like Bruce and Jim and Thermon

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Speaker 1: Andre because I knew they were working hard and they

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Speaker 1: appreciate and they were with it. They were with me.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were on it with me, they were

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Speaker 1: watching me, they were you know, reaping the benefits and

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Speaker 1: also appreciating it. It's a different atmosphere. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to do that for a guy who blames me

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Speaker 1: every time the past isn't completed, or he looks at

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Speaker 1: me says, yeah, I want you to run that route,

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Speaker 1: a step this way, or put that way. That culture

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Speaker 1: and the attitude of the workplace, particularly when you're in

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Speaker 1: physical dress for most of it, is everything. Yeah, it's everything.

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Speaker 1: There was one brief moment in embedded I noticed I

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Speaker 1: think they were in a part where they were kind

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Speaker 1: of profiling Lorenzo Alexander. He was talking to one of

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Speaker 1: the rookies, teaching him something, which is part of the

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Speaker 1: culture too, and at one point he said, hey, we

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Speaker 1: don't don't don't touch the quarterback. We don't hit the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: just kind of in the side, just kind of a

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Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't even it wasn't an electure. It

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Speaker 1: don't even touch him. I thought, that's culture, that's this

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Speaker 1: is how we work here, this is this is what

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Speaker 1: we do. And I thought that was important. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's true, and it's a little thing. And because young

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Speaker 1: guys come out and they want to they're they're trying

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Speaker 1: to make a point like they could have there. So

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Speaker 1: they reach out and as they run by, they'll tap

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Speaker 1: the quarterback or they'll put you know, they just touch

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Speaker 1: him or maybe give him a little palm on the

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Speaker 1: back of the shoulder pads or whatever is. They're coming

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Speaker 1: in and just don't even touch him. Don't even touch

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Speaker 1: him a little thing. It's true, man, the small thing.

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Speaker 1: Tweak that elbow. It's like, oh, don't do it. A

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Speaker 1: few calls on this topic. The best thing you got

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Speaker 1: out of The Bills Embedded season two? Was it culture?

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Speaker 1: Was it behind the scenes look at personnel decisions? Was

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Speaker 1: it further introduction? Knew who some of these players are.

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Speaker 1: Let us hear from you, Rich and Hamburg gets it

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Speaker 1: started on the phone lines. Hello, Rich, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: You're on the air with this, Hey Fallas love you guys,

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Speaker 1: love the Bills. Thanks Richel. I had a question. I'm

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Speaker 1: maybe an observation. I know back where I'm from, what

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Speaker 1: drives the engine is pride and culture. I think really

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Speaker 1: builds the pride in that team, the ownership in that team,

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Speaker 1: and they have input in this team. I think they

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Speaker 1: really believe they're a unity that's very hard to beat.

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Speaker 1: So culture, it's the only thing I don't like about

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Speaker 1: the name given to it. Right, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: different name, But that's all the things I think it

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Speaker 1: stands for, and that's all the things that build that team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's good. You can call it what you want, rich

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Speaker 1: and you're right there. There are different names for in

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Speaker 1: different ways to look at it, in different aspects of it,

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Speaker 1: but it's all comes down to the same thing. You've

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Speaker 1: got to have. We've all seen there's a million moving

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Speaker 1: parts and an NFL football team, and particularly in a game,

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Speaker 1: you know there's a half million on one sideline and

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Speaker 1: a half million on the other and they're all out

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Speaker 1: there together. You've got to have all of them hitting

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Speaker 1: on all cylinders. You've got to have all of these

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Speaker 1: moving parts working in concert with one another to make

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Speaker 1: it work. And and that's what a really good football

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Speaker 1: team is able to do, where it's not about me,

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Speaker 1: it's about us, it's about you guys. I want to

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Speaker 1: help you guys be successful. And that goes from the

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Speaker 1: greatest player on the team all the way down to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster, you know where I lived.

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Speaker 1: When you're all trying to make all of each other successful,

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Speaker 1: when those bad things happen, When you know, when the

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Speaker 1: ball bounces the wrong way, when you get a bad call,

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Speaker 1: or when another guy makes a great play against you,

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Speaker 1: you overcome it. You don't, you don't waiver in your

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Speaker 1: belief that you can all get it done together. And

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Speaker 1: that's and in football, we've all seen it. It happens constantly.

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Speaker 1: Bad things happen all the time because there's a you know,

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Speaker 1: just as many guys on the other side trying to

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Speaker 1: make sure they do go wrong for you, and guy

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Speaker 1: have culture of their own. Yeah, I mean, you're not

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Speaker 1: working in a vacuum and all of that stuff. You've

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Speaker 1: got to have all your guys playing as good as

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Speaker 1: they can play all the time, and or at least

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Speaker 1: that's the the you know, that's the goal. If you

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Speaker 1: can get all your guys playing as good as they

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Speaker 1: can possibly play all the time, you're gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: to beat. But to do that, they got to be

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Speaker 1: fully fully invested, particularly in professional sports where there's a

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Speaker 1: physical component, where you know physical pain is going to

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Speaker 1: be part of the recipe, and you've got to be

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Speaker 1: willing to go through it for the guys around you,

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Speaker 1: and that takes some affection and some respect. What'd you

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Speaker 1: get out of watching embedded season two? Let us know?

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Speaker 1: Phone lines open eight o three fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty where we

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Speaker 1: read more from the tweet sheets when we return as well,

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Speaker 1: Come on back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Nate David's going to join

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Speaker 1: us after the top of the hour. Coming up. He

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Speaker 1: says the Bills will finish eight and eight and finish

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Speaker 1: second in the AFC. He says Patriots will win. We'll

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Speaker 1: go right down his preseason predictions. He's got a little

839
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Speaker 1: methodology to it too. It's not just throwing darts. Nate Davis,

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Speaker 1: USA Today Sports NFL writer editor joins us after the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, got a little top of going

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Speaker 1: on here. The best thing you got out of watching

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Speaker 1: the Bills and bad At season two you can find

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Speaker 1: it on the Buffalo Bill's YouTube channel. Steve watch it all.

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Speaker 1: I watched three of the four episodes. Tell us what

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Speaker 1: you liked, Give us a call eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: to three one eight eight eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty Jake on the line from Buffalo, Jake, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: you're on the air with this, Hey, guys, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on. Sure, listen to you guys all the time.

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Speaker 1: A huge fan. So, you know, before I say something

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Speaker 1: about I'm better, I want to make a comment because

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Speaker 1: I thought you guys brought up an interesting point about culture. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'm someone who works in profession, and

855
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Speaker 1: I think, like most professions, I think those that are

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Speaker 1: most successful, those organizations or companies or what have you,

857
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Speaker 1: that they can always speak to a culture or something

858
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Speaker 1: that was built from the within side that you operating

859
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Speaker 1: function a certain way on the same mission and vision,

860
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Speaker 1: and those organizations tend to be most successful in whatever

861
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Speaker 1: you do. So I do think climbing cults, although some

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Speaker 1: people make to think it's a little overrated, I think

863
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Speaker 1: it's probably one of the most important pieces of success

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Speaker 1: in anything that you do. So I'm a big component

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Speaker 1: of culture and building culture, I guess in terms of

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Speaker 1: embeddable one of the things I thought was really interesting

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Speaker 1: was how they reacted about Sills, the Sills kid, Because

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Speaker 1: every time we talked about and I listened to the

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Speaker 1: show a lot, like all the shows, and every time

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Speaker 1: everything I read and you look at Sills and he's

871
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Speaker 1: like got an outside shot of making the team. But

872
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Speaker 1: yet the way they were reacting from behind the scenes,

873
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Speaker 1: this gives me a different fiel. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys felt the same way, but I mean a

875
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Speaker 1: little bit differently. Yeah, I did, Jake, I agree with

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Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. I got a sense of how

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Speaker 1: valued David Sills is to this personnel department. Now he

878
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Speaker 1: doesn't have a roster spot lockdown by any means, but

879
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Speaker 1: clearly they wanted them and they pursued him hard. See

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Speaker 1: if you can see that and Embedded and they think

881
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Speaker 1: a lot of them too. And you know what never

882
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Speaker 1: never occurred to me, and I heard it and Embedded

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Speaker 1: when they talked about, you know, trying to convince David

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Speaker 1: Sills to come here in West Virginia. Obviously we recruited

885
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Speaker 1: by several other NFL teams, and they said, hey, point

886
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Speaker 1: out to them that we didn't draft a receiver, and

887
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Speaker 1: they're right. I mean, all of a sudden, David Sills

888
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Speaker 1: is the primary rookie wide receiver on the roster right Yeah,

889
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great point to be made now. Certainly,

890
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Speaker 1: the Bills signed a couple of free agents who are

891
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Speaker 1: not going anywhere, and they've got a couple of guys

892
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Speaker 1: who have been working hard here for a couple of years,

893
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Speaker 1: Zay Jones being one of them, and then the addition

894
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Speaker 1: of Robert Foster, who they've put in some time now

895
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Speaker 1: and then, and they know them very well. Um Sills

896
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Speaker 1: is gonna have to give them a skill set they like,

897
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Speaker 1: but there's no question he's got to feel encouraged by

898
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Speaker 1: the enthusiasm they wanted him to get signed. Behind the scenes,

899
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Speaker 1: I listen, we got that guy. We had him on

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Speaker 1: our draft board. We didn't draft him. Everybody had, Yeah,

901
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: everybody they want. They had full court president Josh Allen

902
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Speaker 1: Matt Barklay calling the guy, I mean, trying to get

903
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Speaker 1: him to sign. And he knows that this is a

904
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Speaker 1: great spot for you know, if you're it's hard to

905
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Speaker 1: make an NFL team, no question about it. But this

906
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Speaker 1: has got to be a place where there's a lot

907
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Speaker 1: of people see opportunities. Certainly, John Brown and Cole Beasley

908
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: saw it as an opportunity, and I with a kid

909
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Speaker 1: that they've got thrown the football like Josh Allen, and

910
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: the vibe that you've got to feel when you're in

911
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: this building. Yeah, it's easy to see why this is

912
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Speaker 1: a really attractive landing spot for a kid like Seals,

913
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Speaker 1: who brings a different skill set than those speed guys

914
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Speaker 1: like the John Brown and Isaiah McKenzie and Robert Foster,

915
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Speaker 1: even Zay Jones to a certain extent, He's a different

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Speaker 1: kind of receiver than them, and that's got to give

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Speaker 1: him a chance to a feeling that he can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I've got a shot to make this roster. One more

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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet before we go to break seth tweets.

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Speaker 1: This and those Ed Oliver interviewed clips were really cool

921
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Speaker 1: to see. Got a glimpse of his confidence and his

922
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Speaker 1: ability to come in and dominate regardless of who drafted him.

923
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Seem like you knew Buffalo would be the best situation

924
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Speaker 1: to come into. Can't wait for the season, Let's go.

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00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: He's right. Ed Oliver said stuff like all you're gonna

926
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Speaker 1: see are double teams on me. Right in the interviews

927
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Speaker 1: he did at the COMBA, everybody double teams me. He

928
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Speaker 1: said stuff like, well, funny the funny quote about how

929
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Speaker 1: do you feel about cold weather? And you got you

930
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Speaker 1: guys got jackets right, I got jackets right. But he

931
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Speaker 1: just had a lot of good, positive things to say.

932
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Speaker 1: You can almost by the looks on the faces of

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Speaker 1: McDermott and Being and others, you can almost see them

934
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Speaker 1: being won over by a Oliver's confidence and demeanor in

935
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Speaker 1: these interviews. I think, Yeah, there's no question he's got

936
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Speaker 1: a great sense of himself. He has. He was totally

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Speaker 1: seemed at ease. And let's face it, he's in the

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Speaker 1: room with like nine or ten people that are sitting

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Speaker 1: there staring at him, ask firing questions off at him,

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Speaker 1: and they're tough questions like the one we spoke about

941
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Speaker 1: it would you rather be tough or smart? You know,

942
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Speaker 1: stuff like that, knowing that every answer you give is

943
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Speaker 1: an evaluation about you, and it got for us, particularly

944
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Speaker 1: for a guy like Ed Oliver. This is you know,

945
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure is representation told him this. It's actual,

946
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Speaker 1: it's actual dollars in these evaluations. The better your evaluations,

947
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: the more money you're the higher you're gonna get picked,

948
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: and the more money you're gonna make. It's just that simple.

949
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Speaker 1: And the more people you can impress in this interview.

950
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: You can't impress upon these young guys enough how important

951
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: these interviews are. You know, I had a funny thought

952
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: while I was watching at Oliver interview and some of

953
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Speaker 1: the other saying this is great. I'd really like to

954
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Speaker 1: see the guys who bombed you know what I mean.

955
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Speaker 1: We'll never see it, but the guys who just totally

956
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Speaker 1: weren't prepared for the interview, just to see how bad

957
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Speaker 1: you could be, because I'm sure some guys don't think

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Speaker 1: it's important or just aren't articulate enough. Yeah, and it's

959
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Speaker 1: a skill. I mean, being articulate is a skill that

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Speaker 1: you learn, and there's no question about it, having media

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Speaker 1: media skills to be able to handle an interview, it's

962
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Speaker 1: a skill you learn, uless, some of these guys aren't

963
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Speaker 1: cultivating it, and I don't think it's important or haven't

964
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Speaker 1: been able asked to do it. And it's interesting too,

965
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Speaker 1: particularly in this new and the younger and younger these

966
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Speaker 1: guys get and the further way you and I are

967
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: from it. They've grown up with a phone in their

968
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: hand and conversation is a little bit of a lost

969
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: art and some but some of these guys have the

970
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: ability to do it, and it sets them aside, it

971
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: sets them apart, and it makes them unique. And so

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Speaker 1: it's fun. It really is fun to get in on

973
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: these things and watch how those those because we all

974
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Speaker 1: hear about it. I mean, that's the topic of conversation. Well,

975
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk to these guys night. They're gonna spend

976
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: all night talking to players, and one after the other,

977
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: and we get a list of who they spoke to.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really fun to get a chance to

979
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Speaker 1: see it. And Betted Season two went up last night.

980
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: It's available on the Buffalo Bill's YouTube channel. What'd you think?

981
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: What did you like? What's the best thing you got

982
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: out of it? We'll continue that discussion when we come

983
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: back for hour and number two. We're gonna talk also

984
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: with Nate Davis, who covers the NFL for USA Today.

985
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: He's going right through the thirty two team NFL and

986
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: that's a prediction for every team's one loss record, some surprises.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's coming up hour number two. Come on back.

988
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: One Bill's five from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio,

989
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio network. Sports top Dates update from One

990
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Bill's drive three days away the first practice of the

991
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Speaker 1: Bills twenty nineteen training cap. They'll beyond the field at

992
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Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College ninety five Thursday morning. No ticket

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00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: required for fans Bill's rookies filtering into the complex hereot

994
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Archard Park today tomorrow. The entire squad due to report

995
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Speaker 1: to Fisher for camp on Wednesday morning. They've got some

996
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: testing in the afternoon and meetings the rest of that day.

997
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: The twentieth Fields training camp at Saint John Fisher College

998
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: begins Thursday. Atlanta Falcons aid wide receiver Julio Jones and camp.

999
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: He kept his word despite not having the long term

1000
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: contract extension. He showed up to training camp maybe a

1001
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: little for a while before the contract. Despite recent deals

1002
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: for some other Atlanta Falcons last offseason, Jones sat out

1003
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: before getting his contract adjusted. This time, he says he

1004
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: trusts the owner. He's got two years left on his contract,

1005
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: worth nine and eleven million dollars in each of the

1006
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: next two years. The Dolphins have waved defensive tackled Kendrick Norton,

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Speaker 1: who had his left arm amputated following a car crash

1008
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Speaker 1: near Miami earlier this month, by putting him on reserved

1009
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: non football injury. The team is able to pay him

1010
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: his full salary. His car his truck brother caught the

1011
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: crest into a concrete barrier early on July fourth. The

1012
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Speaker 1: underwent at least six surgeries before he was released from

1013
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Speaker 1: the hospital. Last week, Super Bowl MVP Julian Edeman was

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Speaker 1: spotted at his youth camp over the weekend with a

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Speaker 1: small brace on his left thumb. He is expected to

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Speaker 1: be sidelined for about three weeks with an injury to

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Speaker 1: his finger. Uncertain whether Edelman suffered the break or a

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Speaker 1: spraying of the thumb while catching the pass, but New

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: England now down another offensive weapon as they get set

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Speaker 1: for camp and Shane Lowry made the weight between Open

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Speaker 1: championships in Northern Ireland, well Worth the Way. The Irish native,

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Speaker 1: thirty two year old Shane Lowry used his soft touch

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Speaker 1: around the greens and dured the worst weather of the

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Speaker 1: week and Sunday pressure of a sellout crowd cheering him on.

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Speaker 1: He won the British Open by six shots at royal

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Speaker 1: Port Rush. He closed with a one of our part

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Speaker 1: seventy two Tommy Fleetwood. Fleetwood end to settle for a

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Speaker 1: second and runner up finished in a major. That's the

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Speaker 1: update from one Bills Drive. It's funny you watched the

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Speaker 1: first couple of rounds of the Open extensively your way

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Speaker 1: out West. I watched rounds three and four extensively. It

1032
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Speaker 1: was a great, great tournament and Shane Lowry's immediately he

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Speaker 1: captivated me. Just this smile, his approach, the fans cheering

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Speaker 1: him on. That was really cool. I say that. I

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Speaker 1: thought that coverage did a really nice job of relating

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Speaker 1: how important that tournament was to the country, to having

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Speaker 1: people and Tessie an irishman win it was absolutely spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I you know, even you know, even if you're not Irish,

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Speaker 1: you got to appreciate what that meant to all the

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Speaker 1: people over there. And to see him and to win

1042
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Speaker 1: his first one in that fashion on that track, good

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Speaker 1: for him. You know, it was great. Yesterday's fourth and

1044
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Speaker 1: final round. You know, there was nothing spectacular about it.

1045
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Speaker 1: The weather was awful for a long time and at

1046
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: some point, and you watch more golf than I do, probably,

1047
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: but you almost have to salute the guys who just

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Speaker 1: got it out. Just the gritty I'm gonna make par

1049
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Speaker 1: part power. Maybe a birdie here, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be gritty sometimes in win

1051
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Speaker 1: a tournament. That's what Lowry did yesterday. Yeah, he really

1052
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Speaker 1: with fourth, started with a four shot lead, got it

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Speaker 1: to six two different times. He got back down to

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Speaker 1: four ones. Um. Yeah, And for those guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to think the first group's off. You know,

1056
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: they're whatever ten shots off the lead or eight shots

1057
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: off the lead, and it's like they got no chance

1058
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: of doing it in those conditions, would at least you

1059
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: would think. And you got to go out there and

1060
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: grind it around knowing that nobody out there is pulling

1061
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: for anybody else other than the Irish. I mean, you

1062
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: got no friends in the gallery, right, So to go

1063
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: out there and slept around, you know, in the in

1064
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: the soaking rain for four and a half five hours, Yeah,

1065
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: that was a lot of It was no fun. One

1066
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: more golfing and then we got a guess waiting that hole.

1067
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: I no more majors this year, right because they moved

1068
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: to PGA. I kind of I don't know if I

1069
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: like this. I kind of like it. I'm not even

1070
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: in August a little early though, Yeah, I wish they

1071
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: would move it back. I wish they'd move the Masters

1072
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: and everything back a month and make it last longer

1073
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: into the because it does get started early. April's here

1074
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. April's a little early because you know, you

1075
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: go out and you watch these guys play, you want

1076
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: to go out and play. You can't always do that, April.

1077
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: You really couldn't do it this year, right, So I

1078
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: stuck some football with their next year. I see as

1079
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: USA Today Sports NFL writer editors covered the league since

1080
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and he's written his projections for

1081
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: each of the thirty two NFL teams their records for

1082
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. Happy to have Nate Davis on

1083
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: the lame with us. Hello, Nate, John Murphy and Steve

1084
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Task are up here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us.

1085
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Hey guys, going to be back with you. Hey, you

1086
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: mentioned that it's fun to make predictions, but thankless, tell

1087
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: me both sides of that. Why is that? Yeah? I

1088
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: mean I've been doing the thrill for years where I

1089
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: go through and pick off two hundred and fifty six

1090
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: games and then just kind of see where each team's

1091
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: record balls and go ahead do the playoffs after that.

1092
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: So it's kind of fun. It kind of gives me

1093
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: a sense of where I think each team is, kind

1094
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: of gets you to study going into into training camps after,

1095
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the off season. But you know,

1096
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: once you put it out there, you know, you never

1097
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: hear from the fans of the teams you like, and

1098
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: of course the teams that you don't necessarily like in

1099
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: terms of project them. Everyone everyone's angry with you and

1100
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: thanks so that you're personally targeting them, so you know,

1101
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: Twitter being ordered this, but just try to take it

1102
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, and it's right now and and and

1103
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: it's fun too because sometimes once in a while, as

1104
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, once a while you get it right. I mean,

1105
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: you predicted the Seattle Seahawks over the Broncos in a

1106
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: super in Super Bowl, and then of course you have

1107
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: spectacular misses as well where you think teams are gonna

1108
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: get last in the division to end up making the playoffs.

1109
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: But it's kind of fun because I think what most

1110
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: people want to do is follow your logic and your reasoning.

1111
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Give us a little bit about your methodology to get

1112
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: to the to the guesses you've made this year. Yeah, well,

1113
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: like I said, this game by try, I try to

1114
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: kind of go, you know, game by game, week by

1115
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: week and not necessarily look at any particular team uh

1116
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, and you kind of get a better

1117
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: feel for who you think Scott uh. You know, once

1118
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: you kind of look at how it shakes out, you

1119
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for who maybe has an

1120
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: easier schedule than you thought, or who's got you know,

1121
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: that that bad bye week or that that rough stretch

1122
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: of games that could think of them, or you know,

1123
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: for for instance, you know, tick tick to Washington residents

1124
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: for example. You know, young teams first round quarterback to

1125
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: may or may not start right away, but they open

1126
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: with three playoff teams bear vehicles and Cowboys, I believe,

1127
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: who all have bad defenses. And you kind of think

1128
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: to yourself, that's that's totally not the way you want

1129
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: to rookie quarterback to start his career if he's playing.

1130
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: It's certainly not the way you want to throw case

1131
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: teneam out there if he's the guy starting. And they

1132
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: got Patriot, the Patriots in week five, and all of

1133
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: a sudden you're looking at a one and four row

1134
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: and five start, and that's that's how that's how three

1135
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: and thirteen seasons are built, you know, So that's kind

1136
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: of the way you go through it. You do as

1137
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: deep analysis as you can get before any ACL's tear

1138
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: or coaches get fired or guys get suspended, and of

1139
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: course you know it'll all change probably two or three

1140
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: days from now, if not two weeks from now. But

1141
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: it's fun drill, and that's kind of how I go

1142
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: through it. Yeah, And that's kind of the point I

1143
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: was gonna make u, Nate, not to disparage what you do,

1144
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: but I always I've learned over the years that things

1145
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: change every week in the NFL. You know, you can't

1146
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 1: count on this team being this way in November, let alone,

1147
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: you know October or December, right, you just don't know

1148
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: how the thing's gonna line up that deep end of

1149
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: the year. That's the best guest with the best information

1150
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: we have with with the rosters probably as close to

1151
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: it as we think they're going to be heading into

1152
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: training camps. And like you said, John, it's all it's

1153
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: all going to change a week week to week. But

1154
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: this is the best I guess we have, and it

1155
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: gives everyone a chance to tell me what an idiot.

1156
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: Am always fun Well, Nate, we may as well start

1157
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: AFC East and over the last fifteen or twenty years

1158
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: there's really only been one team at the top of

1159
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: it's the New England Patriots. That AFC East probably notoriously,

1160
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: has been the easiest division to guess over the last

1161
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: decade and a half, much of the chagrin of everybody

1162
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: else other than the New England Patriots. Give us a

1163
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: little rundown of the AFC East with the Patriots, Bills,

1164
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Jets. Yeah, well, you're right. See, you know

1165
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: it's funny. The last year I think I had the Patriots.

1166
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: I did. Actually I had the Patriots at eleven and

1167
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: five last year, winning the division, and I got blow

1168
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: back from Patriots fans saying, you know, you you moron.

1169
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: They never went a few of the twelve games, but

1170
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: you know I got that one right. No, they went

1171
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: eleven and five last year, and we've kind of seen

1172
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: in recent years where the Patriots almost treat September like preseason,

1173
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: and it's it's not unusual we'll see them go to

1174
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: and two in that first month. But to answer your question, yeah,

1175
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: this year, I've got the Patriots. You know, winning again.

1176
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna not gonna bet against them as long

1177
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: as Tim Brady and Bill Belichick are there. But you know,

1178
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: I've got the Jets and the Bills pretty much neck

1179
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: and next to that second spot. I got a buffalogo

1180
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: in eight and eight, which probably I hope makes Bills

1181
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: fans happier than where I've had them in more recent years.

1182
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: And I've got the Jets new Jets going seven to nine,

1183
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins bringing up, bringing up way in

1184
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: the rayar of three and thirteen. I think they'll probably

1185
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: be one of the weaker teams in the league this

1186
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: year and maybe batalance that number one draft pick, you know,

1187
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: net next spring. But that's that's all. I had the

1188
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: afe question out, Nate, what distinctions did you make between

1189
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: the Bills eight and eight and the Jets seven to nine? What,

1190
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: if anything were the distinctions? Well, you know, I feel

1191
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: like the Bills are doing a good job on the

1192
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: continuity front. I like what the what they're building there.

1193
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: You guys may may not know. I was in college

1194
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: with the U Sean McDermott, and I kind of know

1195
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: what he's about, and I've interviewed him over the years

1196
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's changed much. And I think

1197
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: he's a you know, the tough, tough, minded, resolute, smart guy.

1198
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: Tree stas like they want to be treated and I

1199
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: think I think players buy into that. And I think

1200
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: that they're they're slowly building something steadily. They're on under

1201
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: heat and Brandon Bean and I think it should be

1202
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: exciting for Bills fans, and I think people nationally, you know,

1203
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: myself included, tend to underrate them a little bit. You know,

1204
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: number two ranked defense last year he add added Oliver

1205
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: to that. Um, you know, I think that's that's pretty

1206
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: exciting stuff. We'll see if they can m how Josh

1207
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: Allen does offensively and if any of these you know,

1208
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: oh co caseet of weapons, if somebody steps up for him.

1209
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: But um, I think the Builds are one of those teams.

1210
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: It's probably going to knock down the teams that they

1211
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: ought to be. They're gonna upset one or two that

1212
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe we think that they won't be. And I think

1213
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: I think they're probably kind of back in that position

1214
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: where they worked two years ago, where I think they

1215
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: should be riding the cusps. One of those wildcard spots

1216
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit about the Jets. The Jets,

1217
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, added Levy on Bell, they added Bobby Wagner,

1218
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: they added a lot of key pieces. But do you

1219
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: think since they did switch head coaches and made that

1220
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: change right at the top, that that's going to hold

1221
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: them back a little bit from where they want to be. No,

1222
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: that's harder to tell for me, Steve. I mean, when

1223
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: you add in so many new parts, I mean, I

1224
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: think we've all seen typically when you add a bunch

1225
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: of free agents, you change coaching staffs. You know that

1226
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: that generally means you're probably a year away. Even if

1227
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: it causes a lot of excitement, it generally leads to

1228
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: some level of disappointment. I mean, you think about Jets

1229
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: in the past, the Equals Dream Team in twenty eleven,

1230
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: or any number of the changes of Redskins have made

1231
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: over the years. It continue, he doesn't is an important

1232
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: thing in the NFL, and that's no thing that Buffalo had.

1233
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: The Jets. You know what we're gonna see. I mean,

1234
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: I like the Adam Gaze Sam Darnold marriage. Obviously Leavmbell

1235
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: should be an exciting edition. But I mean, you guys

1236
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: know a car that's in a garage for a year,

1237
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: may have that tread and tires, but doesn't necessarily run

1238
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: as well if it hasn't been out there on the road.

1239
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, to me, maybe the most exciting aspects

1240
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: of the Jets fans should be Greg Williams on defense.

1241
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he always has an aggressive defense that generates

1242
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of turnovers, and that can be the biggest

1243
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: friend to an offense. It's kind of got, you know, obviously,

1244
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: new new play caller, new players, um. But to me,

1245
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: the Jets are they're they're a wild card. They got

1246
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: him the seven and nine, but you can see them

1247
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: as one of those teams that maybe maybe wins four

1248
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: games and maybe they win nine or ten, but they're

1249
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: they're harder to pack the line. When Nate Davis USA today,

1250
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: NFL writer talking about his team by team prediction, and

1251
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: you've got the Dolphins at the bottom of the division

1252
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: just three wins, thirteen losses. I never thought of this.

1253
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: I quite frankly never looked at the way their schedule

1254
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: plays out. But it's very difficult at the top. You

1255
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins season might be over early, huh, Well,

1256
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean they come out of the gate against the Ravens, Patriots,

1257
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: cout wasn't Chargers. You know, all playoff teams from last year,

1258
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: and you've got you've got a new quarterback, whether it's Ryan,

1259
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: it's Patrick or Josh Rosen Colins Shots. So again, you

1260
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: know you're out looking at a whole lot of continuity there,

1261
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: Brandon coaching staff, Bryan Flores being being a rookie head coach.

1262
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: That's and for a team last thing I think we

1263
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: could probably all agree doesn't have have the talent foundation

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: that the other three teams UM in the division are

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00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: working on. So I think the Dolphins are probably going

1266
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: to be lucky to go one in five into indivisional

1267
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: play and we'll see after that. But yeah, I don't

1268
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: like the way things line up for them. Yeah. One

1269
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: of the things that is interesting is, you know, you

1270
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: followed this all the way through to the Super Bowl

1271
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: and the team that you know, Murph and I have

1272
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: been talking about him as being a really talented and

1273
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: upcoming team with a great quarterback out west is UM

1274
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: the the LA Chargers. UM. Certainly the Chiefs made a

1275
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: huge splash last year. I don't think there's any question

1276
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I've got to take a little bit of

1277
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: a step backwards with Kareem Hunt not on their roster anymore.

1278
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: But you've got the Chargers not only winning that division

1279
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: but taking the Super Bowl and taking the whole thing.

1280
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: How likely? I mean, obviously we're a long way from that.

1281
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: But tell us how you got to that conclusion. Well,

1282
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, I had the Chargers, you know, winning it

1283
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: all or actually winning the AFC last year. It didn't

1284
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: quite get there, but I mean that was before they

1285
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: are actually that they lost to Henry by that point,

1286
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: but that was before Joey Bosa got hurt, Denzil ferryman

1287
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: n outstanding winebacker got hurt. Etc. I just think they've

1288
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: got a wonderful talent based there, great depth throughout the roster.

1289
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I think Anthony Lynn is another coach

1290
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: where where players really want to fight for him, and uh,

1291
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, talk about two experienced, capable coordinators and Gus

1292
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Bradley and defense can Wizon Hunt on offense. I just

1293
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: think they've got everything that they need to win it all.

1294
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I joke joke about this when I

1295
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: write it sometimes, but the Chargers basically play sixteen road

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: games a year. I mean, enemy teams fans when they

1297
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: come to their stadium were always in full throat there. Um. So,

1298
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean this team has battle tested. You know, they

1299
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: got to the divisional round last year. I think I think,

1300
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: like you missed the Chiefs. I mean, it's gonna be

1301
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: real hard, in my opinion for Patrick Mahomes to replicate

1302
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: five thousand yards and fifty touchdowns. I don't think we've

1303
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: ever seen that. Um And I think, but I think

1304
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: people forget the Chargers won as mini games as Kansas

1305
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: City did last year, both both twelve and four, both

1306
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: best in AFC. But but the Sea Scots tiebreakers, So

1307
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: I think full season I enjoyed both the full season

1308
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: out of Hunter Henry at Thomas Davis to that defense.

1309
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: I really like what they bring to the mix. This

1310
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: is their home field, the stub Hub Center. Is that

1311
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: really a detriment? Do you think you're their success? I

1312
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 1: don't think it's a detriment. I think it actually helps

1313
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: this team, uh get up for a game every week

1314
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: and that they're I think that playing in that kind

1315
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: of environment where they don't necessarily have a home field advantage,

1316
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: could help them wait in the season, especially say they

1317
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: have to go on the road for a playoff game.

1318
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: I don't think playing a tough road game, he's gonna

1319
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be a detriment to these guys.

1320
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: It's not gonna bother them. You think back to to

1321
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: Lay last season when they won that game in Kansas

1322
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: City with with that gutsy two point conversion late in

1323
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: the game. I want to say, the last couple of minutes,

1324
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: I think they won twenty nine twenty eight with the

1325
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: big comeback. So I think I think they've got mentally, physically,

1326
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: talent wise, Um, it's not much missing here, and I think,

1327
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, Philip Rivers obviously not much of a window

1328
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: to cats, Eli Manning or Ben Roethlisberger. With that that

1329
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: title from those two thousand and four quarterbacks, I think

1330
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: this could be the best shot. Yeah, let's talk about

1331
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: something that really kind of resonates with Bills fans on

1332
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: their schedule, the AFC. If you're one of the few

1333
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: guys who really aren't on the Cleveland Browns bandwagon, you

1334
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: don't have them winning that division. Even with what's going

1335
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: on in Pittsburgh and the transition they are in Baltimore.

1336
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: Who do you think is gonna come out on top?

1337
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Of the in AFC north Well Colose. I had the

1338
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: Browns the winning ten games. I had the Steelers winning eleven,

1339
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: and then my projection I had to go deep into

1340
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: the tiebreakers. But but the Browns lose out on my

1341
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: tidebreakers of the Jaguars for the AFC second wild Cards,

1342
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: So you know, they're right there. I got to cover

1343
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: the Browns a little bit last year. I saw that

1344
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: first game where the Budweiser coolers opened and they finally

1345
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: that Wayne streak. I mean, they're a very impressive team

1346
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: to me. I mean they're their talent is as good

1347
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: as anybody's in the AFC, particularly with the young players,

1348
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: either Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubbs, Miles Garrett. You know, you

1349
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: can go on and on with them. But they've put

1350
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: it all together. You know. They they've got a rookie

1351
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: head coach. You know, Freddy Kitchens is going to do

1352
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: a lot more than whole plays this year. He's gonna

1353
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: have to manage these expectations. He's gonna have to manage

1354
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Um and I just think that that's

1355
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: a lot to ask of a young team. We just

1356
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to react in crunch time

1357
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: they've got, you know, Odell Beckham has a propensity to

1358
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: get distracted sometimes. And then now now it's a new

1359
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: team and we'll see how it goes. I mean, they

1360
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: could certainly win a division. I just you just kind

1361
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: of wonder how how a team this young, with so

1362
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: many expectations that hasn't made the playoffs in two thousand

1363
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: and two, Uh, can it all go right in one season?

1364
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Given we've seen a you know, almost two decades of

1365
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: something always goes wrong in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. I just

1366
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: think maybe they're in a you know, maybe maybe addition

1367
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: by subtraction kind of kind of a position. You know,

1368
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: they didn't have let Young Bell last year, so you

1369
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: effectively lose Antonio Brown, but he had a great piece

1370
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: to your defense with with the rocket line backup for Michigan.

1371
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: His names gives me at the moment. But um, I

1372
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna be better defensively. I think they'll

1373
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: be less predictable offensively, not not beating Antonio Brown. There

1374
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: are twelve times a game, and I think that these

1375
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: guys prize is a little bit hurt after missing the playoffs.

1376
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: You know what last year, I don't I don't. I

1377
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna sneak up on people this year. The

1378
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are transitioning too. It seems as though, at

1379
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: least on the surface, a really run first oriented offense.

1380
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Is that going to work? I mean, we're gonna see

1381
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't work in the playoffs. I think

1382
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: I think, as the Charger showed in the playoffs, I

1383
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: think teams are gonna dare Lamar Jackson try to beat

1384
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: them through the air. Um. I mean, I think they'll

1385
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: be dangerous. I don't think you watched quarterback winning nearly

1386
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: as much as he did last year. And I want

1387
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: to say he said, I want to say he said

1388
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: a record for most of the rushing attempts by a

1389
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in any season. Um, But you know he's He's

1390
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: inconsistent as a passer still. So I think that that's

1391
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: where teams they're gonna try to They're gonna try to

1392
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: put games on Lamar Jackson's arm. And I think the

1393
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: bigger concern that people lose sight of is, you know,

1394
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: the Ravens had the number one defense in the league

1395
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: last year. Yes, yes, they had ad Earl Thomason next,

1396
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: but they lost a lot of guys Asa, Darius Smith,

1397
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: Terrell Sug, Derek Weddell, C. J. Mosley. I don't think

1398
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: that defense is going to be nearly as good this year,

1399
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: even with Earl Thomas um. And you know, if your

1400
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: offense is stuck in a lot of three no situations,

1401
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: which it might be if if the Lamar Jack it

1402
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: continues to be a fifty five percent kind of thrower,

1403
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: that could wear it down, and I think I think

1404
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna take a step back. Nate Davis's USA Today's

1405
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: NFL writer editor. He has gone through the entire league

1406
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: and forecast one loss records for each team you mentioned.

1407
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: I agree with this one hundred percent. I find the

1408
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: AFC South to be a bit of a cipher, Nate,

1409
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: And you say it might not You say it might

1410
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: not be the best, the best division in the NFL,

1411
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: but certainly is the most competitive top to bottom. I

1412
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: would think, huh yeah. I think the AFC South Nancy

1413
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: South both are really interesting divisions. And I think you

1414
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: can make cases for pretty much any of those teams

1415
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: to win that division to get a wildcard spot or

1416
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: to go you know, six and ten or whatever. I mean.

1417
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: I've got the Houston Texans this year going from first

1418
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: to worst if you will. I mean, they had a

1419
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: lot of things to go right for them last year.

1420
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens this year. I think I had

1421
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: them at six and ten. But um, you know, I

1422
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville to bounce back from a down year with

1423
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. I think the Tennessee Titans I kind of

1424
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: like the Bills. I think they're another one of those

1425
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: teams that people just never talk about, but there are

1426
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: lots suffer to beat between the lines. I think that

1427
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: they're often and given credit for. I'm not sure they're

1428
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: ready to get to the playoffs or you know, win

1429
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl or anything, but I think they're going

1430
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: to be right there with that kind of eight and eight,

1431
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: nine to seven times a year where they're on the

1432
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: door knocking there at the end of December. So so, yeah,

1433
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: there are no freebees in the ASC South am opin. Yeah,

1434
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars with Nick Foles. Some of us up here

1435
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: from outside looking in, it looks like their windows kind

1436
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: of closing defensively, But does Nick Foles keep that window up?

1437
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: We saw him two years ago almost get to the

1438
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl riding one of the great defenses in recent history.

1439
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: Is their windows shut or can Nick Foles keep it open? Well,

1440
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: I think he's got to be, you know, a better

1441
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: option than Blake Bortles was, And I think it helps

1442
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: being reunited with John D. Philippo as their offensive coordinator.

1443
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: He was an assistant quarterbacks coach at the Eagles when

1444
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl with Nick Foles two years ago. Um,

1445
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean, to to me, they should be better. I mean,

1446
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: he's another guy that doesn't have a ton of great weapons.

1447
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to see in them point bounce

1448
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: back with with a better year. But I don't think

1449
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: you gotta be I think Nick Poles Bowls is putting

1450
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: twenty points on the board for you each week, assuming

1451
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: that defense plays up to his capabilities, that that ought

1452
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: to make them, you know, a very competitive team. I mean,

1453
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's gonna hurt you with turnovers

1454
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: the way the play portals inevitably did at the worst time. So, um,

1455
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not putting Jack Mullis Super Bowl. I've

1456
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: got that's in the tenant six getting back to the

1457
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: playoffs to be a wildcard. Um, to me, that feels

1458
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: about right for them. I don't know if I've got

1459
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: much further than that, but I think, again, that's not

1460
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: a team I didn't want to see at any point

1461
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: in my schedule, given the talent they've gotten on that

1462
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: defensive side. And if we can quickly get through the

1463
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: NFC and start out west, where you think the Niners

1464
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: will benefit greatly from Jimmy Garoppolo's return. Huh. I think

1465
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: that was probably the pick. I'm going to get the

1466
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: most three four Niners going ten and six paring a division.

1467
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: But you think back a year ago, I think everybody

1468
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: would have said the same thing. I think people's kind

1469
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: of fort and about them. Uh. And this team has

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Speaker 1: had a ton of injuries the last two years, but

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Speaker 1: they have always played tough. They've always played tough. For

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Now he's got a quarterback back, he's got

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Speaker 1: some weapons there. I say, look out for the guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I you've got the Rams dropping back nine and seven.

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Speaker 1: What would be the most um telling reason for why

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Speaker 1: the Rams go from being a Super Bowl contender to

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Speaker 1: a guy a team that's nine and seven. I mean,

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Speaker 1: real quick, you know we're gonna we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: about Todd Gurley's knee in short order once the season starts.

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Speaker 1: But they lost some guys on the offensive line. That

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Speaker 1: always hurts, particularly, you know when when you've got such

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Speaker 1: to the timing kind of offense, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make overplay the Super Bowl hangover,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, this is a team that's one of

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Speaker 1: those division two years in a row. Hard just to

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Speaker 1: same that kind of success, and then you know, losing

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl and having a deep run of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: it can be hard to get back from math the

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Speaker 1: next year. So I think these guys are kind of

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Speaker 1: timed up for a bit of a regression. And the

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Speaker 1: last thing I have for you, it's interesting you when

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Speaker 1: you look at your projected one lost records, there are

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Speaker 1: no thirteen win teams and what only one team with

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Speaker 1: twelve wins. It's well, I guess two teams with twelve wins, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's pretty even league, right. Nobody's going to run

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Speaker 1: away with any of these divisions, apparently, is that what

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Speaker 1: you see? I think? So, I mean, I you know,

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Speaker 1: there's so many divisions with contenders. You know, we didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFC North, but you could see the

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Speaker 1: Packers of Ke. He's embarrass all being right there, m

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Eagles in the East. I just think

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see any super team this year.

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01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, inevitably, somebody will emerge with thirteen or fourteen wins,

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Speaker 1: you know, when when one of those teams gets weakened

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Speaker 1: by key injuries and that sort of thing. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the NFL pride itself on Parodi's designed to be that way.

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Speaker 1: If the NFL had its way, you know, every team

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Speaker 1: would be eight and eight every season. Um so, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be close, and certainly, um

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Speaker 1: would I would be the least surprised person if my

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Speaker 1: projections proved us somewhat inaccurate all two seven games are

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Speaker 1: played out. Yeah, welcome to that club, right, It's a

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Speaker 1: good attitude to take. Nate, Thanks for this good work

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Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on to talk with us about

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Speaker 1: a We appreciate it all right, I appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Nate Davis, USA Today's Sports NFL writer editor to

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Speaker 1: cover the league since two thousand and five. He's got

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Speaker 1: a good perspective and you know, I'm famous for saying

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Speaker 1: it's a week to week league, but he gets a

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and he took it about himself. He mentions,

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Speaker 1: right off the top, two and fifty six games. I've

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Speaker 1: projected them all. I've predicted who's gonna win. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you're just rolling the dice. After a while, you don't know,

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01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, week to week, I mean, who's who's in,

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Speaker 1: who's out, key players in, key players out, who's playing well,

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Speaker 1: who emerges as rookie stars who make a difference for

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Speaker 1: their team. There's no way of knowing that stuff, and

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: which great player like JJ Watt may not finish this

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01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: season he hasn't for a while, Joey Boza didn't. He

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Speaker 1: even noted that maybe the Chargers get a full year

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Speaker 1: out of Joey Bosa. If that happens, they're a different

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Speaker 1: football team. All the unpredictable things we've seen, and you're right, Murph,

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: you're not. It's impossible to predict these games week to week,

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Speaker 1: let alone six months in advance of the first ball

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01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: being kicked into the air. You know there six weeks

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Speaker 1: in advance of it. So but it's fun to talk

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: about we always do. The hard part is going back

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01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: and research and find out who is right and who

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: is wrong, and we find out nobody was. Most of

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01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: us preferred not to do that exactly right, There was

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01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: there wrong. Hey, we're talking about the Bills and the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills embedded series today and hope you saw it.

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Speaker 1: What's the best thing you got out of watching Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills in Betted Season two? Twitter poll is up and

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Speaker 1: running about a thousand responses already. Almost half of you

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Speaker 1: the inner workings of personnel decisions. Forty six percent said that,

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Speaker 1: thirty one percent say you got an inside look at

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Speaker 1: team culture, eighteen percent say closer look at players off

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Speaker 1: the field, five percent have something else in mind. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it, Buffalo Bills in Betted. What did you

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Speaker 1: could read it on the tweet sheet. Come on back

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Speaker 1: coming to here from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. It's One Bill's Live. It's coming in from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. I'm John Murphy, Steve Taskers back. We're

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Speaker 1: here all week and then Thursday will be live from

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Speaker 1: Bill's training camp. Looking forward to that. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: that I think I almost have talked you into embracing

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: training camp, the training camp experience. Right a couple of

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01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: months ago, you're like, oh, embracing, embracing maybe a strong word,

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: but certainly softening. It's like I tell people, it's like

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Speaker 1: having a different job for a couple of weeks. One

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01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: good experience doesn't wipe out this, you know, Scar tissue.

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Speaker 1: What as a player? What would you do now here?

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Speaker 1: We are Monday, Bill's going to camp. Actually they have

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Speaker 1: to report Wednesday, So these are Monday and Tuesday, the

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Speaker 1: last two days for these current players before they have

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: to report the camp and go to work until you know,

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: December thirtieth, what's the last game or whatever? Playoffs? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What would you tried to do those last few days?

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: December twenty ninth? Last game? What what was on your

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01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: bucket list end of the summer. I gotta do this

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: before I go to camp. Anything? No, I'd spend the

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Speaker 1: last three or four days just worried about the schedule

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: when I had to get there, you know what time

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01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: of day I was got getting there. And I told

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Speaker 1: you this too. And later in my career, last two

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: or three four years, the wife and kid, we'd go

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: a day early to training camp and we'd check into

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Speaker 1: the dorm at Fornonia State. We check in all the

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Speaker 1: kids and the midst of they well, they ranged from

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Speaker 1: they were ten years and the fifth one wasn't born

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Speaker 1: until after I was done, so it was four of them.

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Speaker 1: They ranged from you know, eight down to two the oldest,

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Speaker 1: and so they would we'd all go in slumber party

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Speaker 1: in the room that I was living in. It get

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Speaker 1: your own rooms, everybody did. Everybody had their own room,

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Speaker 1: so you'd go in there. We'd have a slumber party

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Speaker 1: the night before I had to report, and then they'd

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Speaker 1: take off the next morning. I'd start training camp. Good time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they kids loved it and stuff. And then

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, my son Deek was eight

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Speaker 1: or nine years old and the equipment guys let him

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Speaker 1: be a ball boy for training camp. So he'd live

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Speaker 1: in my room with me and I'd turn him loose.

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01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: He'd go hang out with the equipment guys all day

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: do stuff. They'd have a little jobs for him, and

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: he got a little better at it as he the

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: longer he did it, and then we'd hook up and

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: we had a little routine between practice and post practice

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it was good. Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. But that was later in

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Speaker 1: the career, you know. And then I started out the

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Speaker 1: career in San Angelo, Texas with the Houston Oilers. That

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Speaker 1: just sounds hot. Oh, it's gonna be like spart It

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Speaker 1: was like Spartan bird yea, yeah, yeah, you're in the

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Speaker 1: desert right. Two days it was, they were two days.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was back in the day when they

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Speaker 1: didn't you know, we were cattle physically getting ready for camp.

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Speaker 1: Would you the last two days or so before camp,

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: would you deliberately crank up the workouts or it's the opposite. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did start to taper down and started to get ready.

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: He'd stretch a little bit and stay limber. So the

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Speaker 1: Wins training camp story, he didn't snap a muscle or something.

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Speaker 1: Because adrenaline is is quite the elixir, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you get out there and all of a sudden, you're

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: doing it for You're not doing it by yourself in

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01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: an empty stadium or in a weight room by yourself

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: or whatever. Now you got guys competing, and all of

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01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: a sudden, the adrenaline snaps on, and yeah, it's it

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: could be almost dangerous at times. You know, you gotta

1628
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Speaker 1: be really ready for that. Hey, we're talking about Buffalo

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Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Bills dot com to see it. Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Embedded Season two. What's the best thing you got

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Speaker 1: out of it? If you watched it? Was it a

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Speaker 1: look at players and what they're like off the field?

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Speaker 1: Was it a look at the inside workings of the

1636
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Speaker 1: personnel department? A peek at the Bills culture? Is there

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Speaker 1: something else? Give us a call. We got phone lines

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the tweet sheet right now. Brought to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills on the tweet sheet from Tim, it was

1644
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Speaker 1: it's nice to see not only how the players act

1645
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Speaker 1: off the field, but how they interact with each other.

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Speaker 1: The dinner in California revealed Josh Allen's personality and how

1647
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: we interacts with teammates to the average fan. Nice to

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Speaker 1: see this aspect that we usually aren't privy too. That

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Speaker 1: was a good scene too, Josh Allen and dinner with

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Speaker 1: whom Matt Barkley and Micah Hyde and Stephen Houske, Stephen

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Speaker 1: Houske and their wives. It was that was kind of

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Speaker 1: a cool scene. Yeah, and it was long. You kind

1653
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: of felt like, oh, I just had dinner with those four, right,

1654
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: they were hanging out and h that was on They

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Speaker 1: didn't on mcdermot's birthday. Yeah, oddly enough, they tried to

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Speaker 1: FaceTime and he wouldn't answer the FaceTime, but he did

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Speaker 1: answer the text, which was kind of funny, which I

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Speaker 1: guess they were all exactly like the rest of us, right,

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Speaker 1: I ain't FaceTime, He's my boss. That from Tiffany. What

1660
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Speaker 1: hit me the most was what Kyle said to the

1661
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Speaker 1: rookie class. The dynamic between the team and the community

1662
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: is like no other in the NFL Winner Lose. We

1663
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: will always love and support our team and players passed

1664
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: in prison. Kyle helped build the culture and foundation moving forward.

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Speaker 1: That was episode four. I did not see episode four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was really good. Well as he is. Kyle's a

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Speaker 1: really inspirational guy on those little pregame talks and also

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: in a in a setting like they were in a

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: meeting where he's trying to get guys to get their

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01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: mind around what it means. And that it was really

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: well done and he's really Kyle's always had a gift

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: for that, and it was fun to hear it one

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: more time. Yeah, all right, Steve. Twenty minutes to two,

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Speaker 1: lunch time. There we go, what's for lunch? Murph? And

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Speaker 1: this is some questions and you can pick one or

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: the other. There some things are gonna both of them

1677
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: are gonna be good, and some of them both of

1678
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: them are gonna be bad. But you gotta eat lunch sometime.

1679
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: So here it comes, Baby's most away from Heaven. What's

1680
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: the most likely thing to happen? Drew Locke starts a

1681
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: game for Denver Broncos or the Broncos make the playoffs

1682
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: In two nineteen Drew. I don't think the Broncos are

1683
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: going anywhere this year, but no faith in Joe Flack. Ah,

1684
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 1: I have faith. I think he's okay, but at some

1685
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: point he'll either get hurt or they'll want to take

1686
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: a look at Drew Locke. That's more likely to happen,

1687
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: I think, what about you. I think it's also more

1688
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 1: likely that Locke starts a game. Listen, there to defense.

1689
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: Their defense is very good. I think they've got some,

1690
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: um some players. I don't think they're gonna be a

1691
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: bad football team by any stretch of the imagination. But

1692
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: I think listen, they're in the same division as the

1693
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Chargers. They've got a tough road to hoe. Um,

1694
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: So I think they're not probably not gonna make the

1695
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: playoffs even if they are a good football team. UM.

1696
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: I think Joe Flacco. I think Joe Flacco is gonna

1697
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: be as durable as he's ever been. I don't think

1698
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those guys that doesn't finish

1699
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: the season. He doesn't take hits. He slings the ball

1700
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: extremely well. I think he's gonna give him more than

1701
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: they bargain for at quarterback in their passing game. I

1702
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be better than they were a year

1703
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: ago offensively, but that doesn't mean they're gonna win that division,

1704
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs and Nate Davis projection. And I

1705
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: know this too, John Elway is not afraid to pull

1706
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: the ripcord on a quarterback him more so than any

1707
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: other GM in the league. So yeah, I'm with you.

1708
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: I think Drew Locke starts Okay, menu menu item number two?

1709
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: And what's for lunch? Okay, Murph? What are you like more?

1710
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: Who's more like Brett Farve? Over the weekend, Brett far

1711
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: tweeted out that Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield remind Brett

1712
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Farve of himself how he played? All right? So which

1713
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: one's which one's self promotion guy who threw fifty touchdown

1714
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: passes and the best rookie in the league. They those

1715
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: guys remind me of me? Right? Come on? So which

1716
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: one is more like Brett Farr, Baker Mayfield or Pat Mahomes? Yeah?

1717
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, I've always respected Brett Farve, but

1718
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the armed talent that

1719
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes appears to have. I don't know. Statement so

1720
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: I would go with Baker Mayfield. I think there's more

1721
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: of a I don't know, sort of a I don't

1722
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: know how to phrase it, just more of a wild

1723
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: man dynamic around Baker Mayfield, like if this doesn't work,

1724
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. And that's the way Brett farvoos,

1725
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: you know, it never felt like he was on script

1726
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: all the time, but he found a way to win.

1727
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: And I think Baker Mayfield has some of that. I

1728
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: think Mahomes is more of a He's an arm he's

1729
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: a great arm, but I don't know that he's the

1730
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: kind of battler that Baker Mayfield seems to be. In

1731
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: Brett Favwoods. Yeah, I'll tell you this. If you're gonna

1732
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: connect Brett Farve to either one of these two guys,

1733
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is the call because his personality is one

1734
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: that players rally around. Baker seems to be a guy

1735
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: that guys like. He doesn't always say the politically correct thing,

1736
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: but he does do it. And another thing. On the

1737
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: football field, Baker Mayfield turns it over almost to the

1738
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: identical rate that Brett Farve did. Mahomes doesn't. He had

1739
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: like what three interceptions with fifty touchdowns. I mean, the

1740
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: guy never turns it over. Brett Farve is the NFL

1741
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: historical leader in turn it over, threw more interceptions than

1742
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: anybody in the history of the National Football League. So yeah,

1743
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more like Baker Mayfield was as

1744
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: a rookie he turned it over a little too much.

1745
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't as a second year player who won the MVP.

1746
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: So I'm with that. I'm Baker Mayfield is more like

1747
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: Brett Farr than Patrick Mahomes is. Okay, emmanu Item number three,

1748
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: we'll go to. I want to go to the next one.

1749
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: The defensive player, the most indispensable defensive player, the most

1750
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: indispensable defensive players that Khalil Mack or jj jj Watt,

1751
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: three time defensive MVP of the league, has tried trouble

1752
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: staying healthy. But Khalil Mack, who got parachuted into an

1753
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: already good defense, that's a tough one. I mean, the

1754
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 1: Texans have played so often it seems without JJ Watt

1755
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: that it's really tough to call him indispensable. They've been

1756
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: okay even without him over the last couple of years

1757
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: when he's been out and he's been out a lot,

1758
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: so I would name I would put Khalil Mack in there.

1759
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: Indispensable pretty much. He is, I think, you know, the

1760
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: most dynamic player at his position. He Um. I mean

1761
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 1: the way he started the season, he looked like he

1762
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: was going to tear up the league. That didn't quite happen,

1763
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: but he did help the Bears to a playoff berth

1764
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: last year. I would say Khalil Mack would be the

1765
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: most indispensable defensive player in the league. Yeah, I'll go

1766
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, it's interesting because Khalil Mack's on a

1767
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: really good defense. JJ Watt is on a defense with

1768
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney, and Clowney is probably one of the most

1769
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: sought after guys who had on the horizon could possibly

1770
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: be a free agent. Jadeveon Clowney is supremely gifted. Leo

1771
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: Mack is a game wrecker, an absolute game wrecker. Um.

1772
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: This is JJ Watt of twenty nineteen, though not JJ

1773
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: Watt of twenty fourteen or fifteen, where he was the

1774
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: defensive MVP. So at this point in history, I think

1775
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: he got to say Khalil Mack because he's he is

1776
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: in his wheelhouse. He is prime he's healthy, he has

1777
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: always stayed healthy, and JJ I think he got to

1778
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: look at him saying, man, I don't know if the

1779
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: guy's even gonna beat show up every week. So I

1780
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: think that's the only thing you've got. Um on JJ

1781
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 1: Watt over Khalil Mack over JJ Watt, and I think

1782
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: that would take Khalil Mack two? Okay, final one final?

1783
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: What's for lunch? What's the most impressive iron Man as

1784
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback in today's NFL? Is it Philip Rivers or

1785
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: is it Matt Ryan? Um Rivers? Rivers is older Matt.

1786
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan won the MVP once and took his team

1787
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Philip Rivers has never done either

1788
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: of us. But iron Man, right, I got you. They

1789
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: played all one under forty four games this decade. Um,

1790
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: I would say Rivers just because I like him better

1791
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan. I think he's no I do. I

1792
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: think he's much more of a competitive It's it's a lunchman.

1793
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: You gotta pick what you Yeah, I pick what I like.

1794
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: I like Philip Rivers. He's competitive, he uh is durable

1795
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: obviously with this Ironman street going. Um, I just like

1796
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: I like the cut of his jib I don't know

1797
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: what that means with the cut of his jib I

1798
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta agree with you. I mean, we have

1799
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: the same taste of quarterbacks. Here's the thing. Here's the

1800
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 1: thing about Philip Rivers. And I covered Philip Rivers for

1801
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of years with CBS, so I have interacted

1802
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: with him. I've only covered Matt Ryan once or twice.

1803
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is I like big personality quarterbacks because you

1804
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: got you gotta love him or thumbs up or thumbs down.

1805
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times you gotta live with

1806
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: the guy, or you gott to tolerate the guy. Uh,

1807
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I think you can live with Matt Ryan,

1808
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: no question about it, because he is not a guy

1809
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: who makes waves. He's a little bit of a flat line. Yeah.

1810
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is a fiery competitor. Uh. My friend and

1811
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, Frank Wright, coached

1812
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: him for a year or two out in San Diego

1813
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 1: and had nothing but glowing things to say about the

1814
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of competitor he was, the way he handled the huddle,

1815
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: the way he handled the offense, the things that he

1816
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 1: was gifted at doing that a lot of guys are not.

1817
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that Philip Rivers stands tall

1818
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: for a franchise who has been to one super Bowl

1819
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: in its history and he and it was before his time.

1820
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: I think Philip Rivers gets the nod for me. I

1821
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: love the way he plays, I love the his fiery competitiveness.

1822
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: I love his arm. And for a guy who was

1823
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: questioned because of his delivery coming out, wow, he talked

1824
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: about a guy silencing his critics. Why don't you, Why

1825
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: don't we do the music question? You want to do

1826
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 1: it all? Right? Final thing? Dessert, lunch, dessert. I usually

1827
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: don't eat dessert at lunch. Over here we go music

1828
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 1: or no music at training camp? And this is your

1829
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: opinion because of Denver's coach, Vic Fangio said no music

1830
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: for their training camp. Right. She talked about an old

1831
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 1: guy I know and you and others who don't dive deep.

1832
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: We'll use that against him when they lose a game. Well,

1833
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: he didn't. He's so old he didn't even let him

1834
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: have music at training camp. However, let me say this,

1835
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: and this is a total personal practical thing. When there's

1836
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: music at training camp or at practice, and if you're

1837
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: out there on the sidelines, trying to pay attention. You

1838
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: have to be aware of where the speakers are. You

1839
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: don't want to be standing in front of a speaker.

1840
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: For that reason, I say no music, and it's a

1841
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 1: total personal thing. I don't want to have to move

1842
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: and maybe not get the look that I want because

1843
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: I'll stand in front of some ridiculous loud music and

1844
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: some of it is ridiculous. I'm voting no music, and

1845
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: I guess I'll be classified as an old guy too,

1846
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: And I don't care. I'm trying to do a job

1847
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: out there. I'm trying to watch clostly. I don't need

1848
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: your music. I get it, and everybody does it. The

1849
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: bills will do it right. I love DJ Milk and

1850
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: his crew. Yeah, but no, I would vote no for

1851
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: my own purposes. We're talking the music the way it's

1852
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: done in the NFL. It is loud. I mean loud.

1853
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: You can't even talk right. So you know, you got

1854
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: to move around the sideline you can be heard or

1855
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: hear or watch comfortably. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta watch

1856
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: where you stand and and I get all that. However, However, however,

1857
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to music I don't like

1858
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: even if it's loud. But if it's music, I like.

1859
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: If it's music, if it's like you know that seventies

1860
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 1: classic rock, you know, like we listen to in the

1861
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: car all the way to India year ago. Yeah that stuff, yeah,

1862
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: rough drive listen, I sing good, yeah, admitted. So if

1863
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: it's that, if it's that, yeah, if it's that, I

1864
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: don't mind it. But still the volume is has got

1865
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: to be And I do sound like an ottle guy.

1866
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: But why do they do it? I'll tell you why.

1867
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: There's a there's a reason for it keeps. It's it's

1868
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: a constant distraction that players have to battle. And it's easy,

1869
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: particularly when you know your song comes on. You see

1870
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 1: you'll see Trey White bust out when his song comes on, right,

1871
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: he stops everything and he has to move right. That's

1872
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 1: not But also just like you and I have trouble talking,

1873
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: and the players have to communicate better as well, and

1874
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: it's a it's a learning tool. And it was just

1875
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: the opposite when I played, because it was always going

1876
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: on the road was always a factor. You have to

1877
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: and I were over over the line here for the break.

1878
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: But anyway, it was always a factor. You had to

1879
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: deal with the crowd at the other place. Being out

1880
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: there in the midst of that music on a lowed

1881
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: day is exhausting because it forces you to concentrate. You

1882
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: really have to. You have to look, you have to

1883
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: read lips sometimes you have to do all of that,

1884
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,560
Speaker 1: and it's just an added level of different degree of

1885
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: difficult and the prepares players to play well on the road.

1886
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 1: Your coach used to say, I don't want those distractions

1887
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: of practice. We were forced to be the opposite. Everybody

1888
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: had to be quiet you you weren't allowed to speak.

1889
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: You had to do it nonverbally. We had signals and

1890
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: all of this other stuff that we had to get

1891
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: around it. And it was a dead silent practice on

1892
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: days when we were doing that exercise, and that was

1893
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: our way around it. To a certain extent. It worked.

1894
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: Your coach was another old guy, the oldest of old guys.

1895
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Old even then he was old. He's still guy back then,

1896
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: coming back with more. That's what's for lunch. We're coming back.

1897
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: One Bill slide from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1898
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,679
Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Bill Slide. I'm John Murphy. This Steve

1899
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Tasker we're here until three. Today we're gonna talk with

1900
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Ranan of ESPN. He covers the Giants. He's got

1901
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: some other issues we'll discuss with him coming up after

1902
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Next next part of the show,

1903
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about Embedded. What did you get from watching

1904
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: season two of Embedded? Give us a call on that

1905
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 1: or way in via Twitter is Steve. Did you see this?

1906
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: It's been going on for a couple of months now,

1907
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: the byplay between Bill's quarterback Josh Allen and Chiefs quarterback

1908
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It started months ago, back in February. Josh

1909
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,799
Speaker 1: Allen challenge Mahomes. Mahomes accepted the challenge, they'll do it someday.

1910
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: And then there was like a cursive writing thing going

1911
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: on recently, and Mahomes actually wrote this down. I can

1912
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: beat Josh Allen in a throwing contest. I throw the ball.

1913
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: I would throw the ball farther further than Josh Allen. Right,

1914
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: this has to happen, right, going back and forth two

1915
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: of the best young quarterbacks in the game. Right, it's

1916
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: got to happen. How could we what do you think

1917
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: like a charity thing where they when would they get together,

1918
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: just we promote a pay per view. You want to

1919
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: do an offseason you don't want to do in the movie. Yeah,

1920
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: it's almost too trips, too close to training camp now too.

1921
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: You got to do this in like March, you know,

1922
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 1: or April when you know nobody's nothing else is going on.

1923
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes said eighty seven yards. He said it would take.

1924
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Before he said it would take eighty five yards to

1925
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: beat him. Now he says eighty seven yards. I think

1926
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Jock could throw the ball in the year eighty seven yards,

1927
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: don't you. I have no idea. Oh, I think he could.

1928
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: You've seen his arm, come on, Yeah, that's big. Yeah

1929
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: he can. He can sling it. And there's some guys

1930
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: out the Madden game designers. We didn't we should we

1931
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: had Last week the game designer they gave Josh Allen

1932
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: a ninety nine throwing power rating. Mahomes got a ninety six.

1933
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Pretty close, but the man's big. Think, Josh, you got

1934
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: a more powerful powerful arm. Yeah that's cool, it is.

1935
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to think about. But you know who, right,

1936
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: So they both throw at eighty seven yards and then

1937
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: we have a throw off. Yeah, and then there's nobody

1938
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 1: nobody to catch it, you know, and whatever, who cares,

1939
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: I mean, who really cares? Well, Let's have it next

1940
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: offseason when we do care, when we have nothing else,

1941
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 1: when we need some all right, to break care. When

1942
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna talk about pass rushers. We're

1943
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: gonna talk about what offensive lineman do to handle pass rushers.

1944
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about the New York Jet Giants

1945
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: with Jordan Rnan, who covers that team for ESPN dot Com.

1946
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Come on back. An hour ago One Bill Side presented

1947
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's

1948
01:30:53,000 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 1: Radio radio network. Stories update update from One Bill's Drive.

1949
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Three days away from the first practice of the Bills

1950
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen training camp. They'll be on the field at

1951
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher College nine forty five Thursday morning. No

1952
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: ticket required for that. One Bill's rookies filtering into the

1953
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: complex here in Archer Park today and tomorrow. The entire

1954
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: squad due to report to Fisher for camp on Wednesday morning.

1955
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: They've got some testing there on Wednesday afternoons and meetings

1956
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: arrest of the day. It is the twentieth training camp

1957
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: for the Bills at Saint John Fisher and Rochester and

1958
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: report out from Adam Schefter of ESPN. A couple of

1959
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: linebackers free agents visiting the Bills today Josh Bines and

1960
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Stefan Anthony visiting Bills today. According to Adam Schefter, around

1961
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: the league, Seahawks standout defensive lineman Jarren Reid is going

1962
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: to be suspended six games for a violation of the

1963
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: NFL's Personal Conduct Policy, an incident that happened early in

1964
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He was not charged or arrested. His appeal

1965
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: was denied last weekend. Big impact for the Seahawks to

1966
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: be without him for the first six games of the year.

1967
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons had wide receiver Julio Jones in camp. He

1968
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: kept his word despite not having a long term contract extension,

1969
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: He did show up to training camp as he said

1970
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: he would. Jones has two years left on his current contract,

1971
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 1: looking for a new one. The Dolphins have waived defensive

1972
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: tackle Kendrick Norton. He had his left arm amputated after

1973
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: a car crash near Miami earlier this month. He went

1974
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: on the reserve non football injury list, so the Dolphins

1975
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: are able to pay him his full salary this year.

1976
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: He's undergone at least sixth surgery since the accident, and

1977
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: he was released from the hospital last week. The hope

1978
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: is he'll be able to get a prosthetic arm as

1979
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: he transitions to life after football. Patriots without Super Bowl

1980
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: MVP Julian Edelman spotted at a youth camp over the

1981
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: weekend with a brace on his left thumb. Expected to

1982
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: be about three weeks out for Julian Edelman with an

1983
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: injury to his finger, not known of it's a break

1984
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: or a sprain of his thumb. Odell Beckham Junior revealed

1985
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 1: in a new GQ cover story that he felt disrespected

1986
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: by the Giants when they traded him to Cleveland earlier

1987
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: this offseason. That's the update from One Bills Drive, John

1988
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Murphy Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo studio. Getting set

1989
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: for training camp twenty of Bills training camp at Saint

1990
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: John Fisher College that starts on Thursday. Team's going to

1991
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: training camp, some of them already, those who play early

1992
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: games or have new coaches. The New York Giants go

1993
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to training camp this week today. No rookies report today

1994
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: to the Giants training camp and joining us right now

1995
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: on the line as a man who covers the Giants ESPN, ESPN,

1996
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter, the host of The Big Blue podcast

1997
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Sports Center, and ESPN radio contributor, Jordan Ranan on the

1998
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: line with us. Hello, Jordan, what's the deal? Tomorrow the

1999
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: day for the Giants, veterans and everybody to be in camp. Yeah,

2000
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean today's the rookie You're veterans come on Wednesday

2001
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: and waiting to see if Daniel Jones signs his contract

2002
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: before the start of camp. Represented by CIA, So they've

2003
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: been known to play a little bit hardball as as

2004
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 1: much as you can in these with the contracts the

2005
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: way they are, with all the controversary last year. Yeah,

2006
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: with all the controversy about that traffic, that would just

2007
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: be that'll be over the top, right if you miss

2008
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: some practice time because of a contracting. Yeah, but I wouldn't.

2009
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be overly part of the time, you know

2010
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. Look, they don't on miss two days

2011
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: less than anybody will be back at it in just

2012
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: two days. You know. If this isn't this is at

2013
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 1: the end of the world these first year how do

2014
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: you think this is gonna play out this season? At

2015
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback spot? In New York. Yeah, it's gonna play

2016
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: out that its Eli Manning job unless they really tank

2017
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: and they start losing, and when they're their playoffs are

2018
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: basically gone and out of the picture, that's when you're

2019
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna start to say, Okay, they're really gonna seriously considering

2020
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: the Johnson But if if they had their preference and

2021
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: the way that they envision it is, they're going to

2022
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 1: have some success this year. Eli's gonna have some success

2023
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 1: this year. You can believe that if you want and

2024
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: uh you know well that that if it goes in

2025
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: that direction, then Daniel Jones, they'll they'll play the in

2026
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: the City model. Will Patrick Mahomes keep him on the bench,

2027
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: let him learn for a year, and put him in

2028
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 1: next year. But the second that it really starts to

2029
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: go bad and maybe not officially mathematically eliminated playoffs wise,

2030
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 1: but you know, the playoffs are pretty much out of

2031
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: reachs and I think that's when those they'd be willinks

2032
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: to turn it over and it'd be really hard for

2033
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: him to to sort of push Eui Manning out at

2034
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: this point. What's what's gonna what's gonna look different about

2035
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: the Giants offense this year? From last year. Is Odell

2036
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: Beckham gonna make an enormous difference? And how do they

2037
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: get better without that guy? Yeah, they're going to be.

2038
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: This is now officially sae Quon Barkley's team, right, it's offense,

2039
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: and they beat up their offensive line again. This offseason

2040
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: is going to be as much a run based offense

2041
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: as you can see in today's NFL. Right, the rules

2042
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: are still planted towards passing the football. So even if

2043
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: you're a run heavy team, you're almost fifty percent right,

2044
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: you maybe maybe even you know, fifty five percent past still,

2045
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: but the Giants are gonna run everything through that run game,

2046
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: gonna lean on that offensive line. They're not going to

2047
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: ask their quarterback to carry them and do and lead

2048
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: them to victories. They're gonna ask Saquon Barkley to carry

2049
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 1: the load. And you know, three hundred touches is not

2050
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: even that ridiculous. This year, he's gonna carry a big load.

2051
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 1: He's their guys. So that that's where this Offerhama obviously

2052
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: the Golden Tate to help try and offset the loss

2053
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: of Odell Beckham. He's not Odell Beckham Junior, especially at

2054
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: this point of his career. But you know, if they do,

2055
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: they're still not sitting there saying, oh, man, Lodell's gone.

2056
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 1: They have there's a lack of weapons here. I mean,

2057
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: they still have Steaquon Barkley, Sterling Shepherd, Golden Tate, Evan Ingram.

2058
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 1: There's some there's some people who can make some plays.

2059
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of whether quarterback and have a

2060
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 1: better year and help them, you know, become a better

2061
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: offense than happened the last couple of years when they struggled. Well,

2062
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm with Jordan Ronan. He is ESPN's NFL Nation reporter

2063
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: on the Giants of Bills face the Giants in Week

2064
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: two down there at MetLife Stadium. I want to get

2065
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: you back to ELI for a second. If m a Jordan,

2066
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: how much is he operating on goodwill from his Super

2067
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Bowl performances or is he still the most talented guy

2068
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: they can line up and play quarterback at least going

2069
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: into this camp and at the start of the season. Yeah,

2070
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I Mean they have a rookie

2071
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: us to probably needed some time anyway, So yeah, I'd

2072
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: say right now he probably is the best they have.

2073
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 1: It's not like they have that much more sitting there.

2074
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 1: He has as still has some His arm is still adequate.

2075
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not out there to the lasers round

2076
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 1: the field. It's just that his downside is that when

2077
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: there's pressure, it's hard for him to make plays. At

2078
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: this point of his career, he's never been the most

2079
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, never never been the most accurate quarterback, and

2080
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: so the mobility has become even less. It's been a struggle,

2081
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: especially with a bad offensive line right, and that's a

2082
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: bad mix. That's a really a toxic mix. A bad

2083
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: offensive line where the quarterback can't move a lick right,

2084
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where they've been. So they believe

2085
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: and we'll see if they're right that if they beef

2086
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: up the offensive line, concentrate a little more on the

2087
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: running game, they can that Eli Manning can be successful.

2088
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: He was late in last season. Now can he do

2089
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: it over sixty season. We'll have to wait and see.

2090
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: I guess and let me get you back. Also to

2091
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: a Odell Beckham question, and only because it came out

2092
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: this weekend the GQ cover story, when I talked about

2093
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: feeling disrespected by the Giants thought about retiring. What do

2094
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: you make all that did that ever come out publicly

2095
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,879
Speaker 1: at all anything like that last year. Well, the retiring

2096
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: thing I wouldn't take too seriously. That's just I mean,

2097
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Odell is a very emotional guy. He's a very up

2098
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 1: and down guy. I think that was sort of like

2099
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: a flippant comment he passed to his mom when he

2100
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: was in one of the down cycles and everybody was

2101
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: smashing him or whatever it was at the time. He

2102
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: said it was like two or three years ago. As

2103
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: far as the disrespected thing, my thing on that is,

2104
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: he said he felt disrespected by them trading him in

2105
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: that the Giants weren't upfront with him about it, right.

2106
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: They kept saying, oh, we're not trying to trade him.

2107
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: We didn't. David Edeman was out there saying we didn't

2108
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: sign him to trade him, and everybody knew they were

2109
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: looking to trade him, and they were hear an upfront

2110
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: with him. So he said he felt disrespected. Its like that,

2111
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: and then even when it went down, he said the coach,

2112
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: which is obviously Patt Shermer, called him up and or

2113
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 1: texted him and said, hey, I just heard the news,

2114
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: and Aldell was like, you just heard the news. You

2115
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 1: made the news. You wanted me gone, which is true.

2116
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: So yes, he felt disrespected in that part, didn't that

2117
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: That's the sort of how he thrives. Uh. You know,

2118
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. He always sits there and

2119
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: tells you how he's he's always been an undool and

2120
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I was just a left I've been an underdog my

2121
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: whole life, right, And I'm thinking myself, this guy's been

2122
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 1: an underdog. They wanted him to go play professional soccer

2123
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: when he was like ten years old. He went to LSU. Okay,

2124
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 1: he was a number twelve overall kick in the draft

2125
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: and he was offensive rookie to hear. When was this

2126
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: guy in a real underdog? You know? But you know

2127
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: this is Steve. You know that this is the out

2128
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: some players operate. They always need to create that for themselves.

2129
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: They need to have that. You know, these people are

2130
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: overlooking me mentality, and he's one of those guys that

2131
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: you can see it in some of the things he said.

2132
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: The one thing that bothered me about that thing, and

2133
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, he's really off base. He's a

2134
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: little you know, curled up in himself there and thinking

2135
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 1: it's all you know? All about him is that you know,

2136
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 1: the Giants. They were on national games because they him,

2137
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: because people wanted to see the show. You know, that's

2138
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of a self absorbed comment. In my opinion.

2139
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: The Giants are a big historic branchise that is in

2140
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:53,600
Speaker 1: the biggest media market, So they're gonna be on timetime

2141
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 1: games whether they're a good team or a bad team

2142
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: because they have a big television market. TA can help

2143
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: these TV stations get big grading. Uh, yes, Doodell Beckham help, sure,

2144
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: but that's not the reason that they're on these primetime

2145
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: games in the New York media markets. Uh. That that

2146
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: just showed you a little bit that maybe he has

2147
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: a distorted view of reality and of him, of him

2148
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: an inflated view of himself. Well, speaking of distorted views

2149
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: of reality, the Giants fans were livid about the offseason.

2150
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: The Giants had about how the draft went all that,

2151
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,760
Speaker 1: but how much of a difference on or plus how

2152
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: was it received when they signed um the receiver Golden

2153
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: Tate obviously a guy with a lot of miles and

2154
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: you're trading Odell Beckham junior for Golden Tate at this

2155
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 1: point of his career, completely different type of receiver, a

2156
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 1: guy that's been productive. But you know what, how's this

2157
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna how's that? How is Golden Tate gonna fit in

2158
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: to make this Giant team click offensively when they're gonna

2159
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: run first? Anyway? Uh and talk about this, and I'd

2160
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 1: love all I like to hear about some specifics of

2161
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line they're trying to bolster it. This all

2162
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: seems to come down to the Giants offense rather than

2163
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Well, let's just say

2164
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 1: this about the Giant It is all about the offense

2165
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: because they're almost sixty five percent of their money is

2166
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: invested in the offense phil this season. So if you're

2167
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 1: sixty five percent on offense, they're about thirty thirty something

2168
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: percent on defense, and then you got to add some

2169
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 1: special teams, right, so they're almost double amount invested in

2170
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,639
Speaker 1: the offense. So if their offense doesn't carry the team,

2171
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: and it needs to because their defense is really young

2172
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: and really lacks playmakers, then you know where you where

2173
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: do you turn? Like that? That's where they they don't

2174
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: do well this season. The blame is on the office.

2175
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it has to go, that

2176
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: they need to carry the team. Golden Hate was it

2177
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: was one of them that people kind of scratch their heads. Right, Really,

2178
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: we're replacing Odell Beckham Junior and resigning a thirty thirty

2179
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: I think thirty thirty one year olds old something something

2180
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: like that, and it's really a guy who's very similar

2181
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: to Stirling Shepherd in fact, and the fact that they're

2182
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,759
Speaker 1: both slot receivers. And as it turns out, the Giants

2183
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: ran a really high percentage last year. I think they're

2184
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: the tenth book two tight end sets. So the reality

2185
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: is both of them are going to be playing outside

2186
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,839
Speaker 1: a lot anyway, even though they're both their optimal position

2187
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: is in the slot. So it was a little bit

2188
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: of a head scratcher. Now, Golden Tate what the Giants

2189
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: like about him. He's a tough guy, a physical player,

2190
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: and that'll help in the run game. Sterling Shepherd two eve,

2191
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: you know, they're the smaller receivers. They liked the way

2192
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: both of them block. They like the way both of

2193
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,120
Speaker 1: them play their whole all around game. Can play inside, outside,

2194
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 1: block in the slot, you know. So that's what they

2195
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:46,040
Speaker 1: like about the interchangeable figures in their offense and the

2196
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. Here's the reality. The right side of their

2197
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: line was terrible last year, right, okay, and it's been

2198
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: bad for a couple of years now. Patrick Omame was

2199
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: a disaster signing laughs off season that they had to

2200
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 1: cut him before the middle of the season even came along.

2201
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: So that was their starting right guard. Now they trade

2202
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 1: for Kevin Zeitler. Okay, there's the top level guard right

2203
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: and now, so the right side of line now has

2204
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler. And then they signed Mike Grimmers. So even

2205
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 1: if Mike Grammers, who moved inside the guards the last

2206
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: couple years in Minnesota, they're hoping when he played outside,

2207
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: he was an average tackle. An average tackle is also

2208
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: a serious upgrade from what they've been playing with the

2209
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Last year they started with Eric

2210
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Flowers as a starting right tackle. That only last the

2211
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: three games, not even I think, unless the two. So

2212
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: they're on the right side of the line, they should

2213
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: be greatly improved. The left side of the line. They

2214
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,919
Speaker 1: could sign Nate Soldier last offseason and drafted Will Hernanzez

2215
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 1: in the second round and he was a quality player,

2216
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: so they're hoping that side has said to day, there's

2217
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: hope that that offensive line can be better, and this

2218
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: offense can really function around Sequon Barkley and then they'll

2219
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: hit the play action with Eli Manning and to some

2220
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: of those receivers that we named before, and the offense

2221
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: can we said carry this team. Now, We'll have to

2222
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: wait and see if that's true. I'm not sure if

2223
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 1: they quite have enough firepower to carry the entire team,

2224
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: but it's at least enough to be an increasing group

2225
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: on offense. We're on the line with Jordan Ranani covers

2226
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: the Giants for ESPN and he is also a contributor

2227
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: to ESPN Sports Center and ESPN dot Com. And speaking

2228
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 1: on offensive line, Jordan, you got a chance to spend

2229
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: some time last week in Dallas, Texas at the Old

2230
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 1: Line Masterminds Group. Second year. I believe they've done this.

2231
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: Tell us what that is, what goes on down there.

2232
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: It sounds like you got a lot out of it.

2233
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm watching those offensive line gurus kind of talk about

2234
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, pretty amazing. I mean, you could sit

2235
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: there and you're listening and I'm talking about you know,

2236
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: pro ball and all pro tackles and guards like those

2237
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: forty linemans to forty plus linemans sitting in the room

2238
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: and they're going over film of guys like Don Miller

2239
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,879
Speaker 1: and Khalil Maggot's pretty much all the top tass rushers

2240
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: in the league. At the Marcus Lawrence is and they're

2241
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: talking about, Okay, these are the moves they like to use.

2242
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 1: This is how they like to beat defenders. This is

2243
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 1: how you know I would approach stopping him home when

2244
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: I went against be talking about like Ron Armstead, the

2245
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Saints left tackle, Mitch Schwartz, the right tackle in Kansas City,

2246
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: um Lane Johnson, who is who him? He runs the

2247
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 1: camp or summit, whatever you want to call it, along

2248
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: with this offensive line trainer Duke many Weather, but very

2249
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 1: well respected trainer scouts for offensive liners. So to hear

2250
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: them talk about the game within the game was pretty

2251
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 1: fascinating and how offensive lineman really go about. I mean,

2252
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of technique and skill that goes into

2253
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: trying to stop these guys. And they brought up a

2254
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: good point. You know, like in baseball, you guys need

2255
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 1: to be successful thirty percent of the time. Right you're

2256
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:52,600
Speaker 1: about three hundreds, you're great offensive linemen. I mean you

2257
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 1: need to be successful at a ninety plus clip right

2258
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,599
Speaker 1: unpass against pass rushers in order to be a top

2259
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: lineman because at one time, the two times you mess

2260
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: up and your quarterback gets hit from behind and it's

2261
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: a strip sack bumble, you're all over TV. Had a

2262
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: terrible game, you played terrible. So there's a lot of

2263
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: skill that goes into offensive line play. And I really

2264
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 1: got a first man look at that. It was, you know,

2265
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: it seems like it's almost the mirror image of something

2266
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: von Miller has been doing for a couple of years

2267
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: for pass rush guys, and it's it's it's a little

2268
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: bit different, Jordan. It strikes me. I mean, coaches have

2269
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: been having you know, offseason clinics for years, but now

2270
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: players get together and share their secrets. I don't know,

2271
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: I've never really heard of that up until the last

2272
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: couple of years. It seems like some of them might

2273
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: be considered proprietary information for one of these players with

2274
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 1: their team. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of the question that

2275
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: they've all been facing. It's like, are you walking the

2276
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: line there? Like, look, we talk after games, right, guys talk.

2277
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: They're friendly and random league. They go and they train

2278
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: with other guys anyway around the league. They're in like

2279
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: these training facilities and they're talking the guys training, So

2280
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: why don't they actually get together as a figure group

2281
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 1: of just you know, top offensive linemen around the league

2282
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: and do it that way? Like, so it's happening anyway,

2283
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: so why pretend like it's not happening. Now? There were

2284
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: some things that like I believe Mitt Schwartz, who's the

2285
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: right tackle for the Chiefs? That is that you know,

2286
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: they're not giving away every you know, they're a whole

2287
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: entire toolbox and they're not giving away everything. They're willing

2288
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: to share something, but maybe they're holding back just a

2289
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 1: little bit. But you're right. It was sort of like

2290
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: the answer to the von Miller camp out there where

2291
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: he was getting all the league top pass rushers together. So, hey,

2292
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 1: offensive line play people complain, right, the offensive line play

2293
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 1: around the league spinx, So this is one way that

2294
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: you can help their help trying to get it to improve. Yeah,

2295
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: so they've got pass rushers getting together for a pass

2296
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,760
Speaker 1: rush seminar, they've got offensive linemen getting together for pass protection.

2297
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Seminar about it? What's the next position group are they

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Speaker 1: gonna When are they gonna get corners together and start

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01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: talking about which receivers and also receivers to get together

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01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: about which corners. I mean, is when's this going to stop?

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01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 1: And what does this signal about the NFL that they're

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Speaker 1: getting to this point where they're starting to, you know,

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01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: institutionalize positional matchups. I mean, what's is it going to

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01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:13,560
Speaker 1: be corners and receivers next? It is more of a

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 1: fraternity by the position and around the league than I

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01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: think it used to be back in the day in

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01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: the regards to you know, you used to be with

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01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: your teammates and that was this man. Now it's it's

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01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: more like the guys jump around probably a little bit more.

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01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: They're on different teams more, and it's sort of like

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01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: the NBA where it's going in that direction now, Probably

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01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: not to that degree because in the NFL they have,

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01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, kind the contract and stuff a while, guys

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01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 1: together a little more. But yeah, next up is probably

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01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: the DIVA camp, you know, the wide receivers a get together.

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01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 1: They'll sit there on lounge stares and talk about how

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01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: they how they stuntan and how they create trouble in

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01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: the locker room. Right, I mean, come on, Joan, I

2319
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting you kind of listed some of

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01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 1: the conclusions that these offensive layman had. They voted Aaron

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01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Donald as the best pass rusher, the ram interior defensive linement.

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01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: But the player they hate the faces von Miller. How

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: can they not be the guy? I mean they were.

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01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: It was really you could go it depends on who

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01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: you're talking to write it. It's like a flip flip.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to face any of those guys. And

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01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 1: that's another thing that they've said about this thing. Right,

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01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: we could sit here and talk all we want about

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01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 1: how here's how you stop von Miller, Here's how you

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01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: stop Aaron Donald. He gonna say you stop Kalio Mac.

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01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: You cannot stop those guys. Yeah, they're only trying to

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01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:31,640
Speaker 1: limit them anyway. Those guys are so good and so

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01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: technical and so smart with their game that they know

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01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: how to adjust and react, and they couldn't do their

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01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: damage no matter who they face. Though you're trying to

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01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: picking your poison there between Aaron donn it was really

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01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 1: the three guys that stand out above everyone in the league,

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01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Von Miller, and Khalil Mack. I mean, that

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01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,679
Speaker 1: was the conclusion that came away with. Those three guys

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01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: are respected to the ends of degree. Yeah, and you

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01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: know reason and sorry to interrupt, Jordan, when I was

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01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna say, is you know next just gonna be guys

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01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 1: like jj Wa, Jadavian Clown and all the other pass

2344
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 1: rushers then would be mad that they were excluded from

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01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:09,759
Speaker 1: the elite list. Yes, seriously, Yeah, jj Wat definitely belongs

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01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: in there too. I think you know, uh he it

2347
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: was his injuries. I think maybe to make them forget

2348
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,679
Speaker 1: about him a little bit until they faced him again.

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01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: I love the fact that Aaron Donald was the choice's

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01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: best pass rusher because he's an inside guy. I think

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01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 1: it's indicative of maybe the way the game's going a

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01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Jordan, what do you think? Yeah, it is.

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01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean the pressure on the interior is such a

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01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,240
Speaker 1: big dig Now, that's when we were talking about the

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01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: Giants before, Like, that's why they were so intent on

2356
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: improving that right guard spot because it was such a

2357
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: disaster last year. It completely shut down their offense for

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01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 1: a while. And you're seeing a guys I mean, the

2359
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,440
Speaker 1: guy had nineteen and a half sacks from the interior.

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01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: I mean that is ten fifteen years ago. That was

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01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: unheard of them, and that's kind of the way the

2362
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: game is going. I mean they're just getting such quick pressure.

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: These guys are such free gaps that three hundred three

2364
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: hundred plus rounds that uh, you know that the pressure

2365
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: from the interior just absolutely crushes offenses and players are

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01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: dead right away. If there's that in that instant pressure

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01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: up the middle. Right, and we're thinking a lot of that, Jordan,

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01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: One last question for you, a Giants question again. We

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01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: two Buffalo at the Giants MetLife Stadium. The Giants open

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01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: I believe at Dallas. Right, you'll go to Dallas, Dallas, Yeah,

2371
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: annual opener in Dallas for the Giants. Give us your

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01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: prediction for September fifteenth. What do you think it could

2373
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 1: go either way? Right? Yeah, I think I think it'll

2374
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: be a tight game. I mean, let's see where they

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01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: are injury wise. The Giants are a team where their

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01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:45,320
Speaker 1: defense early in the year might be a little troublesome

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01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: because they are really young at a lot of spots.

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01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna have about at at all times

2379
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 1: five probably guys that are either in their first either

2380
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: rookies or in their second year in the NFL on

2381
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: the field, so early in the season, Giants might be

2382
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: right for that. Phil's offense to get the better of

2383
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: the Week two. We'll see. Jordan, thanks for this good stuff.

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: I really like the report from the Old Line Mastermind camp.

2385
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. You got it well, have you? Guys?

2386
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:16,679
Speaker 1: Gotta tell me where's the where's the Josh Allen train?

2387
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: So Josh Allen train? Is everybody on board? I think

2388
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: so much more so than a year ago. For sure.

2389
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: I think he did too much. He played some hero

2390
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: ball last year, no question about it. But he had

2391
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: the cape on, There's no question about it. So we'll

2392
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: see if he can use what's around him. He'll he'll

2393
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 1: have a few more weapons and a better offensive line

2394
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: this year. We'll see if he can sit back and

2395
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 1: complete a few more passes that rather than tucking in

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01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 1: and running a little more often. Yeah. Well, week should

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01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: be a good opportunity for him. He said circle that

2398
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: I have a chance to do something big this week.

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01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I hope you're right to go. Jordan, Thanks for this.

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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: We'll talk again. Thank you very much, guys, anytime I

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01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: have a one. Jordan Ranan is the Giants, ESPN NFL

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01:53:57,720 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: Nation reporter, host of the Breaking Big Blue Piecast, contributor

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01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: to Sports Center and ESPN Radio and wrote a pair

2404
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 1: of nice couple of articles here the NFL's best pass

2405
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: rusher and how do you stop people like von Miller?

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01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 1: All the result of that. I don't know what it was.

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01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: I guess a seminar. Yeah, you know down in Dallas.

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 1: Would you ever do anything like that? You and other

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01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 1: special teamers get together during your career and say, apart

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01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: from your team, all three of us, right, small convention,

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01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,360
Speaker 1: we can do it. If the best one was on

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01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 1: Mike Mark Pike was on my team, I didn't you

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01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 1: know to do it? In at on the bus right

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01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: talk about it? He also had and Jordan ran On

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01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: also had the best pass rush. He asked some guys

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01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 1: around the league, the offensive lineman while he was at

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01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 1: this seminar. He had a little poll take and he says,

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01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: who's the best pass rusher, who's the best trash talker,

2419
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: who's the nastiest um? All the old linemen had their

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01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: opinions on each of those categories. Fun stuff to read

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 1: from Jordan ran on ESPN dot com. We're getting set

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: for training camp on Thursday, and two weeks from Thursday,

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01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 1: it's the Bill's preseason open or Thursday, August eighty seven,

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01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: o'clock against Indy. That is the Kids Day Game, Buffalo's

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01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: first preseason matchup, presented by Connors and Ferris. The bills

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01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: eighteenth Kids Day Game. Special ticket pricing starting at just

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Speaker 1: seventeen dollars to tails on the website Buffalo Bills dot com.

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01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 1: Seven o'clock kickoff against the Colts. They'll have all kinds

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01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 1: of games and stuff for the kids, special ticket pricing,

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01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 1: food trucks, activities before the game. Kids Day in the

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01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 1: preseason opener Thursday, August eighty, seven o'clock against India. Steve

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01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: and I coming back for more, including two or false

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01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: when we come back. One Bill's Live presented by Kalida

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01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Rating.

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01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. One Bill's Live from One

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01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tasker. We're here again tomorrow.

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01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 1: We're a training camp on Thursday. Looking forward to that. Hey,

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01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: our Twitter poll continues. Let's get you caught up on that.

2439
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 1: Season two of Embedded launched last night on the Bills.

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? Here? You no? Yeah?

2441
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: YouTube channel and it's available. There's still season two of Embedded.

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01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 1: What did you get out of it if you watched it,

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01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: give us a call eight O three oh five fifty

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01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 1: What did you get out of Buffalo Bills embedded season two?

2446
01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: Forty five percent of you say you got a better

2447
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,879
Speaker 1: look at the inner workings of the Bills personnel decisions,

2448
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 1: thirty one percent of you say you got a better

2449
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 1: look at team culture, eighteen percent say you got a

2450
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 1: closer look at players and how they handled things off

2451
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 1: the field, and six percent say something else. Give us

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01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 1: a call eight O three five fifty toll free one

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01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Send us

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Speaker 1: in a tweet. We might read it on the tweet sheet.

2455
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: Let's do one now. Tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: What do you got on the tweet sheet there, Stevie, Yeah,

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01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that you don't get

2459
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 1: from just kind of hanging around and not watching them.

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01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: From Paul, he says, I noticed how freakishly big and

2461
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: athletic Tremaine Edmonds is stands above everyone and athletics some

2462
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: jumps off the screen reminds me of Mario Williams size

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01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 1: and presence. That's a good point. He's not as heavy

2464
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: as Mario was, but he is big and rangy like that,

2465
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 1: and he does when you when you go out and

2466
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: watch him walk through and you watch him on film

2467
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: and you see tremade Edmonds lining up over the center

2468
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 1: inside and you see Matt Milano standing for Milano's like

2469
01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 1: six one to six two. Milano looks like a little yeah. Yeah.

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01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Edmonds is just so big and his wingspand is so huge.

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01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 1: He covers a lot of ground and it's pretty amazing

2472
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: to see and it's something that you know, it just

2473
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 1: makes you feel good. You got one of those guys

2474
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: that you know he steps off the buses like oh

2475
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: my god, forgod, you know, yeah, like that's not going away,

2476
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Like who isn't that? He was asked, well, he had again,

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01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 1: it's a great part of Embedded. They had him miked

2478
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 1: up talking in the lunch room upstairs with the London

2479
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Fletcher and Fletcher asked him what's the next step when

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: you want to take and he said, I want to

2481
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: be a leader. Right. That was a great answer. I

2482
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: was thinking he's gonna say I want to do this better.

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01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 1: I want to do this better. No, he said, I

2484
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 1: want to develop into a leader. I thought there was

2485
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 1: a great answer. The tweet sheet from Connor, what did

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01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: you get out of watching Season two of Bills embedded?

2487
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: Connor says Kyle's speech to the rookies about what it

2488
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 1: means to play for the Buffalo Bills and the city

2489
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. Quote other cities going to games or a

2490
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: luxury or a hobby. Here, it's required a way of life.

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01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 1: That guy is the best off the cuff public speaker

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 1: we ever heard the true He's got a gift for

2493
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 1: feels right. He's right too. The speech he gave to

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01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: the young guys he came in and and about how

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01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: it is in other cities, how we perceive it at

2496
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,800
Speaker 1: least in other cities, and how it is here in Buffalo.

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01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,640
Speaker 1: I've said it for years and guys echo it. It's

2498
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: different here in Buffalo, and it's different for a lot

2499
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 1: of reasons that this city and you and I take

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01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 1: great pride in why it's different, how it's different, and

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 1: utters it matters. That's why I love it. And it's

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01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: and it's not just and it's it's not being a

2503
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: fan as much as it is part of your heritage,

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01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: it's something that runs deeper than just the team that

2505
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 1: you follow, and I'm and it's it's maybe an added

2506
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: degree of benefit to the organization. It's also an added

2507
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: degree of difficulty for the organization. There are certain things

2508
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 1: this organization has to consider that other teams don't, I think,

2509
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 1: And they're doing a great job of it now and

2510
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 1: they think they seem to be hitting on all cylinders

2511
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 1: in that part. Let's go, I got one more time

2512
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: or one more Derek says. My vote is a close

2513
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:29,120
Speaker 1: up look at team culture. To see everyone from the

2514
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 1: players to all the bills personnel buy in and walk

2515
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: the respect the process line that is set forth. It

2516
01:59:36,040 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: was really encouraging to see this team is committed to

2517
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 1: each other and this community. Now let's win. And that's

2518
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 1: perfect right. It's true. You and I sit here and

2519
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 1: talk about it every day. Murph. We set it right

2520
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: from the end of last season about how optimistic a

2521
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,880
Speaker 1: six and ten team can possibly be. This team is

2522
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 1: it ten team? Right? And they're ticking off all the boxes.

2523
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 1: In the offseason, they signed, they signed under the radar,

2524
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: really crafty free agents, guys that you can get behind

2525
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: the Mitch Moore signing, the Cole Beasley signing, all of

2526
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: those guys. John the draft fell to him. Ed Oliver,

2527
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 1: a guy that eighteen months ago was going to be

2528
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: in the top three of the draft. Now he fell

2529
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 1: to where the Bills were that at number what is it?

2530
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,080
Speaker 1: What was number nine or wherever? They traded up a

2531
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:23,680
Speaker 1: couple of nine. They didn't trade up. They got him

2532
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 1: whatever they were at, they got ed Oliver. Then they

2533
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: got Cody Forward. They traded up a couple of spots

2534
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: late in the second round to get Cody Ford. It

2535
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: was the first round who was a first round talent.

2536
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: So they've ticked off all of these boxes. They got

2537
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 1: their guy and Josh Allen and he, like I said

2538
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 1: in our last guest of Jordan and On, I said, yeah,

2539
02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 1: he played some hero ball. But I'll tell you what,

2540
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 1: it's nice to have a guy who's playing hero ball.

2541
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: He's got a cape to wear. I mean, this guy

2542
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. He led the team in rushing. You couldn't

2543
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 1: take your eyes off this young quarterback. So they got

2544
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,720
Speaker 1: all of this stuff lined up. They spent the money

2545
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: in free agency, they had it, and they got there Okay,

2546
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 1: can we win some games? Right right? I gotta win

2547
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's gonna happen. But man,

2548
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: oh man, the process and then the plan and how

2549
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 1: it happened. Man, it all seems to have gone right

2550
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 1: on schedule. Yeah, but now the pressure's on. Now you

2551
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: gotta win, right now, we gotta winn, and it's you

2552
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 1: know what, I don't mind that. Let's let's go. Hey. Um.

2553
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier, Adam Schefter reported a couple of linebackers

2554
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:29,160
Speaker 1: visiting the Bills today just a few days for a

2555
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 1: training camp, Josh Spines and step Stefan Anthony. Stefan Anthony

2556
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 1: is a former first round pick of the New Orleans

2557
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: Saints back in twenty fifteen. Stefan Anthony played his college

2558
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: football at Clemson, thirty first overall twenty fifteen, signed a

2559
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: four year deal there. Played in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

2560
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen, moved possession. He moved over to strong

2561
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 1: side linebacker. On September nineteen, twenty seventeen, traded to the

2562
02:01:56,200 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins for a fifth round pick, and on May of

2563
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: last year twenty eighteen or no May of this year,

2564
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins declined the fifth year option on his contract.

2565
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 1: So again it's twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen with

2566
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 1: the Saints, in twenty seventeen and eighteen with the Dolphins.

2567
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 1: Did you see he played games with the Dolphins last year? Yeah,

2568
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: he played. I think he's had seventeen sixteen games last

2569
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 1: year for the Dolphins, for the Dolphins twenty eighteen. Probably,

2570
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: it seems like it probably a special teams guys six three,

2571
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pounds, he's only twenty six comes

2572
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 1: out of Clemson, so he's you know, the fact that

2573
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 1: the matter is, if he's drafted that high, he ticks

2574
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: off a lot of athletic boxes. He will be twenty

2575
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 1: seven years old next week. The other linebacker is a

2576
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:39,880
Speaker 1: veteran too, Josh Bynes veteran linebacker in for a visit.

2577
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefter, Josh Bines played undrafted free agent.

2578
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 1: He'll be thirty years old in August. Played with the

2579
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 1: Ravens for a couple of years, played with the Lions,

2580
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: and played with the Arizona Cardinals the last two years.

2581
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Came in as an undrafted free agent and played a

2582
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 1: little bit with those three teams. Baltimore, Detroit, and Arizona. Yeah,

2583
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 1: veterans coming in this time of year. What do you

2584
02:02:57,680 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 1: make of that? I think that's the way it is.

2585
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 1: I talked to a couple of head coaches and I ask,

2586
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, they bring all these guys in and that's

2587
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 1: becomes something that's that all teams do it. When I played,

2588
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't done as much. At least I wasn't aware

2589
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,280
Speaker 1: of it as much as it is now. Where you

2590
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 1: have new guys coming in week to week, they do

2591
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: that quite a lot in the NFL, and the and

2592
02:03:15,240 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: the reasoning is this, Listen to the guys at the

2593
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: bottom of the roster are going to play special teams

2594
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 1: most of the time. And if you can get better

2595
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 1: there athletically, get faster, bigger, stronger guys who have better

2596
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: measurables or more production, or guys who are more into

2597
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 1: playing special teams, who get or who fit your culture better,

2598
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 1: or fit a hole that you have in your roster

2599
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 1: or perceived weakness in your roster and add depth. You've

2600
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: got to do that to try and get better constantly

2601
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 1: at the bottom of your roster. That's why you'll have

2602
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: guys being churned over. You know, they'll release a backup

2603
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 1: tight end and bring in a backup linebacker mainly because

2604
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: of their contributions on special teams and or athletically they're

2605
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: superior to one to the other, and also that there's

2606
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: a perceived problem at that position rather than the other.

2607
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: So they'll keep churning guys through the bottom of the roster,

2608
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 1: even at this late date in the offseason, to try

2609
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 1: and get guys that will come in. And you get

2610
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: this guy like a like a Josh Bines, who's you know,

2611
02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: he spent three years with the Baltimore Ravens and they

2612
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: had a culture there and down eleven to twelve and

2613
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:23,320
Speaker 1: thirteen where they had some real leadership on that side

2614
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: of the football. He spent three years in Baltimore, then

2615
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 1: spent three years with the Lions. Three years. That's like

2616
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 1: an average career for the NFL. Three and a half

2617
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 1: years is the average career. So this guy spent you know,

2618
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 1: what some guys call a career with two different teams.

2619
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 1: And then with the Arizona Cardinals he spent two years.

2620
02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: That means he was there and gave them something over

2621
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 1: the course of those years. To me, that's a long

2622
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 1: stretch in the NFL, those are teams that, you know what,

2623
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: they liked that guy, at least mentally. They liked his character,

2624
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 1: they liked where he sat in the locker room. That's

2625
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 1: what it says to me from this distance, not knowing

2626
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 1: the guy. Three years a long time on an NFL roster.

2627
02:05:01,560 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: The bottom of the roster churn is interesting, and it's

2628
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of a recent development in the NFL. EUROLD coach

2629
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 1: Marv Levy used to say all the time, no, we

2630
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: believe you go to camp with your team, and he was,

2631
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 1: I think reluctant to churn the bottom of the roster

2632
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 1: more and more the last couple of regimes in charge here,

2633
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 1: especially this one, Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, they'll churn

2634
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster now three days before training camp.

2635
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,000
Speaker 1: In training camp. They'll do it in the regular season.

2636
02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 1: They use the practice squad a lot once the regular

2637
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 1: season begins. But it's different now and I don't know

2638
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 1: what it says. It says that the players are more fungible, right,

2639
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: you can move around, you can see what you got,

2640
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 1: and I think they'll they'll do it at the end

2641
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: of training camp. I think you can bet there's going

2642
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:44,320
Speaker 1: to be a handful of roster spots that are up

2643
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 1: for grabs where teams cut different guys and let get

2644
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: different guys go, and the Bills are on the fence,

2645
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: maybe with two or three of their own guys. And

2646
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's that old the grass is Greener scenario saying,

2647
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I got what, I know what I

2648
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 1: got here. But this guy looks a little bigger, faster,

2649
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 1: and you know we saw him on film and like this,

2650
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:05,880
Speaker 1: so you know what, let's make the change. Um, they're

2651
02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 1: willing to make the change because the guy that they've

2652
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 1: got on their roster hasn't wowed him enough, or hasn't

2653
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: shown enough in meetings or in the weight room or

2654
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:16,320
Speaker 1: in the field practice field. So yeah, it happens all

2655
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 1: the time now, and I think it's just one more

2656
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 1: way that the league evolves behind the scenes that we're

2657
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times are very unaware of.

2658
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: But in this one, guys like you and me were

2659
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, we just got our hard copies of the media. Guys,

2660
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 1: it's obsolutely it's absolutely Bush is on the roster right

2661
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 1: and heat over the weekend he retired. Now what are

2662
02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: you gonna do? What more question? For you about this,

2663
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 1: and again these are just visits. Adam Schefter reports it

2664
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 1: so pretty reliable. Shorts source linebacker who's Josh Spines and

2665
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:45,160
Speaker 1: Stefan Anthony who was a first rounder a couple of

2666
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 1: years ago. If you're on this Buffalo roster and you're

2667
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:49,760
Speaker 1: a linebacker and you're three days away from camp and

2668
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 1: you've been gearing up for it, if you're you know who, um, well,

2669
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:55,840
Speaker 1: the rookies aren't going anywhere. But if you're I mean,

2670
02:06:55,880 --> 02:06:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean the draft picks with Tyrold Dotson or Eli

2671
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 1: Harold or I don't know, Julian Stanford. What does that

2672
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 1: do to your head? Corey Thompson knowing that they're bringing

2673
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: in guys three days before camp begins, bringing in guys

2674
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 1: to put them through test and see if they should

2675
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 1: bring them to camp. It's got a register, right and

2676
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 1: they know players know. Yeah. You look around the room.

2677
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're always constantly self evaluating and comparing how

2678
02:07:20,640 --> 02:07:23,760
Speaker 1: your practices are going with everybody else you If you're

2679
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: if you're smart enough, you've got an idea of Okay,

2680
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 1: what do I bring to the table, what I don't

2681
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 1: bring to the table, what I can get better at

2682
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 1: and real quick and what I should work on and

2683
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: what I want to show the coaches that I'm working

2684
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: on trying to get better. And then they're bringing in

2685
02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: guys who are former first round draft picks. It's like,

2686
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'm going somewhere else to you. Yeah,

2687
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 1: it's it says something, um but I think also too.

2688
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 1: And let's face it, if the league's evolving, players are

2689
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:53,520
Speaker 1: aware of it, probably more so than anybody else. And

2690
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys at the roster, like you're

2691
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 1: talking about these guys the names that you just mentioned,

2692
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: that's how they got here. You know, they've already been

2693
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 1: through that. They've seen guys like that. They were one

2694
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 1: of them. They were one of them last year this time,

2695
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 1: or maybe earlier this offseason, they were one of those

2696
02:08:09,080 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: guys who were you know, they maybe had a cup

2697
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:14,280
Speaker 1: of coffee with another team this last offseason, and now

2698
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:17,280
Speaker 1: they ended up in Buffalo. So it's part of the

2699
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,480
Speaker 1: part of the atmosphere. I think that guys are kind

2700
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 1: of get used to pretty quickly, but nevertheless, it never changes.

2701
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 1: The self evaluation goes on constantly. All right, a break,

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Speaker 1: loss records. After doing this research on a game back

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Speaker 1: game basis, he gives the Bills an eight and eight

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Speaker 1: and he tells us why they're they're slowly building something

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Speaker 1: steadily there under Ian Brandon Bean and I think it

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Speaker 1: should be sorry for Bills fans. And I think people nationally,

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Speaker 1: you know, myself included, tend to underrate them a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, number two ranked defense last year he had

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Speaker 1: had Oliver to that. Um, you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's pretty exciting stuff. And we'll see if they can.

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Speaker 1: Um how Josh Allen does offensively and defining these you know, oh,

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Speaker 1: cocase that a weapon if somebody steps up for him.

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Speaker 1: But um, I think the Bills are one of those

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Speaker 1: teams is probably going to knock down the teams that

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Speaker 1: they ought to be. They're gonna upset one or two

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Speaker 1: that maybe we think that they won't be. And I

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Speaker 1: think I think they're probably kind of back in that

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Speaker 1: position where they worked two years ago, where I think

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Speaker 1: they should be riding the cusp of both one of

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Speaker 1: those wildcard spots. Here. There you go, Nate gave us

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Speaker 1: from USA today. We also just a little while ago

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Speaker 1: talk with Jordan Ranan, covers the New York Football Giants

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Speaker 1: for ESPN dot Com. We asked him what are they

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Speaker 1: expecting to get from line manning this year the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. Here's what he said. This arm is still adequate.

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Speaker 1: I mean the time out there to the Lasers Rockfield.

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Speaker 1: It's just that his downside is that when there's pressure,

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Speaker 1: it's hard for him to make plays. At this point

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Speaker 1: of his career, he's never been the most mobile quarterback,

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Speaker 1: never has never been the most accurate quarterback, and so

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Speaker 1: the mobility has become even less. It's been a struggle,

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Speaker 1: especially with a bad offensive line right, and that's a

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Speaker 1: bad mix that's a really apoptive man. A bad offensive

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Speaker 1: line where the quarterback can't move a lick right, and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of where they've been. So they believe. I

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Speaker 1: see if they're right that if they beef up the

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Speaker 1: offensive line concentrated a little more on the running game,

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Speaker 1: they can that Eli Manning can be successful. He was

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Speaker 1: late in last season. Now can he do it over

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Speaker 1: sixty game season? We'll not too wait and see. I

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Speaker 1: guess it'll be here before you know. A week two

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Speaker 1: of the Bills at the MetLife Stadium against the Giants

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Speaker 1: Thursday will be here before you know. It builds a

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Speaker 1: training camp, and you know what's already here, Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: in embedded season two. We talked about it a lot

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Speaker 1: today our Twitter poll what was the best thing you

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Speaker 1: got out of Buffalo Bills Embedded Season two? And the

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Speaker 1: results of our Twitter poll with more than thirteen hundred

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Speaker 1: votes in forty five percent of we almost have said

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Speaker 1: the best thing you got was an inside look at

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Speaker 1: personnel decisions, all right. Thirty one percent of you said

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Speaker 1: the best thing you got was a look at team culture.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen percent said the best thing you got out of

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Speaker 1: it was players interacting off the field, five percent have

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Speaker 1: something else in mind. I went with personnel decisions, but

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to like and it's still up there.

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Speaker 1: You can go to the Buffalo Bills dot com or

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Speaker 1: go to Buffalo Bills YouTube channel. Right. Yeah, I liked

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Speaker 1: all those and you can say, d I liked all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff, and there's no question about it. I

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Speaker 1: like exactly what the respondent said. The most thing I

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Speaker 1: was be I did like c as well. Get a

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Speaker 1: look at the team culture and the reason they picked

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Speaker 1: some of the player personnel decisions and how affected the

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Speaker 1: culture and why they did it, And of course a

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Speaker 1: closer look at the players off the fields always fun

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Speaker 1: to do as well. So yeah, it was all three

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Speaker 1: of those, and I liked them in the order. That's

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Speaker 1: what I respondence did. I say it was a good pole.

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Speaker 1: We talked a lot about hate to say that, I

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Speaker 1: hate to admit it. We talked a lot about team culture,

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Speaker 1: which many people dismiss um and yeah, if they're now winning,

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Speaker 1: you don't want that team culture. I think that's perfectly okay. Right.

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Speaker 1: If if this team does not succeed, team culture doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter. Yeah, I'll tell you that. And here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Look at last year at the Indianapolis Cultures, a playoff

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Speaker 1: team they started OZ in five, and their head coach,

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich said, listen, we're not We're here to get

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Speaker 1: better everywhere. Results are going to take care of themselves

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Speaker 1: when we do the things we need to do every

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Speaker 1: day and getting ready for it. We're not results oriented.

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Speaker 1: We're a process oriented. That's the kind of the thing

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Speaker 1: he said. We're gonna do what we do and do

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Speaker 1: it the way it should be done and trust that

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Speaker 1: the results will show up. And of course as the

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Speaker 1: season progressed, they did and they got into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the way you build this why

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Speaker 1: you build this culture so you can get through those

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Speaker 1: dark times. Got another show coming up tomorrow, Steve and

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Speaker 1: I back tomorrow with another show here for What Your Park.

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Speaker 1: Thursday we'll be a training camp. Tomorrow show we'll deal

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Speaker 1: with Marshawn Lynch a little bit. And also tomorrow we're

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Speaker 1: going to introduce you to a new member of our team,

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Speaker 1: the Bills Content Team. We'll save that for tomorrow, all right,

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Speaker 1: Keep in touch with Buffalo Bills dot com news on

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Speaker 1: any signings. As you know, Stefan Anthony, former first round pick,

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Speaker 1: and another linebacker, Josh Bines, reportedly are in town. Kind

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Speaker 1: of working out, kind of visiting with the Bills today.

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Speaker 1: If there's news on that, you can catch it on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. Steve, good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Good show. We're kind of shifting gears now. We're about

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Speaker 1: ready to shift gears and put the foot on the

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Speaker 1: floor and start the season. Let's go get to Rochester

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Speaker 1: as fast as we can, as long as the New

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Speaker 1: robol Our producer Jay Harris. We will see you tomorrow

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