1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi and 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 6: It is Friday, December nineteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 6: episode number ninety seven. Welcome to the latest edition of 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 6: The Break. We are alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 6: at the Star. We're presented by LGLG is the world's 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 6: number one O the TV brand for eleven years in counting. 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 6: See why at LG dot com on Forward, slash O, 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 6: led Evo, watch not in the day. But we got Brian, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 6: we got Amber, we got a little. 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: Talk for you guys. 21 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 6: Get you guys ready for Cowboys versus Chargers. That'll be happening. 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Field goal kickers, you know, it's crazy. 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 6: Last night, after it was it was I think it 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 6: was thirty to sixteen, thirty fourteen something like that, I 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 6: was like, this game's over and I went to bed, 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 6: and then I woke up this one. I was like, no, 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 6: please don't tell me I miss that game. 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Is you always do that? You always risk that in 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: the NFL. 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 6: And that was the cardinal sin too, like when it's 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 6: two good teams, you should never just say, oh, this 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 6: game's over, because you just never know how what's going 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 6: to happen. And sure enough I woke up this morning, 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 6: I was like, I missed it, missed. 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: A great game. But it looked like it was a 36 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: great game. 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 6: Two really good teams too, evenly match teams that looked 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 6: like the playoffs will be interesting, and you know what's interesting, 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 6: Amber and Brian. 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: As you look around the NFL, I feel. 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: Like you're getting it word in ed twice today. 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 6: Maybe not oh yeah, yeah yeah, maybe maybe I actually 43 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 6: can talk for a little bit. Sorry Bo, but no, 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 6: it feels like it feels like this year not only 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 6: is there a changing of the guard because the typical 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 6: teams that have been in the mix don't seem to 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 6: be there as much, but it also seems like there's 48 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 6: this theme of defense that is also the best teams 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 6: in the league. They're probably the best defenses in the 50 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 6: league as well, which in a league, where offense has 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 6: been everything for so long. It's a kind of refreshing 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: to see all these really really good defenses now sitting 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 6: atop the league. 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've You're seeing some young coaches too that are 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: involved as well, you know, with with Seattle and what 56 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: they have going, and I mean around the league, there's 57 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: the young coaches. It's it's it's that part of it's 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: refreshing as well. I think the thing that that's that 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: makes this so much fun watching these teams play is 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: the level of talent, the quarterback play. I know, in 61 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: last night's game, you know you got two quarterbacks and 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: a lot of people gave up on Sam Arnold. It 63 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 4: just kind of shows you, though, you're one of these 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: teams that all of a sudden you don't have a quarterback. 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: You don't have you know, you think you don't have 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: a quarterback. You draft a quarterback, you play with him 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: for a couple of years, and you just get rid 68 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: of him, and then he goes on the Baker mayfields, 69 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: the Sam Darnold's. These guys go on and play other 70 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: places and and just thrive, like what they thought about 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford too. I mean at Detroit everybody's like, yeah, 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: he's washed up, he's done and all of that, but 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: you're right, the offenses have been outstanding. 74 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: These defenses. 75 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: Defenses have come a long way because you're looking at 76 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: a situation where the league is really geared towards offense. 77 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: The rules are geared towards offense. You see a lot 78 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: more calls towards the offense when it comes to some 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: of the penalty stuff. But man, these guys that can 80 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: they can dial up the defenses, you know, can get 81 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: their guys to play at a very very high level. 82 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: You saw it firsthand last week. You know, a team 83 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: like Minnesota, their offense has been struggling all year because 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: of the young quarterback, but here they go. They've got 85 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: a they got a defense that's very well coordinated. And 86 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: you're about to play another win with the Chargers. That's 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: a very well coordinated defense with a with a young 88 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: coordinator heading it up. 89 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: This is gonna be a weird question because I'm not 90 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 5: quite sure how to properly phrase it, but you know, 91 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 5: sometimes because we're so close to the Cowboys, and I'll 92 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: speak for myself, I'm so close to the Cowboys that 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: sometimes it's hard to put yourself in other teams, like 94 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: think about their own situation where you feel like, oh, 95 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: this just happens to us and we're struggling with this 96 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 5: or that. Obviously knowing there are much worse teams out there, 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 5: but you tend to completely eliminate those every year regardless. 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: But my question to you guys, and I know the 99 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 5: Cowboys have had successful years in recent years, they haven't 100 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 5: made it that's the first round of the playoffs. But 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: my question is, don't even know how to say it, 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 5: but is there a team out there that you would 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: compare to the Cowboys where they've had similar struggles but 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 5: have been able and I'm talking about in the last 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: five years to overcome those things and get further into 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: not to the super Bowl obviously because we know the 107 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 5: Super Bowl teams and all that, but have had much 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 5: success into the playoffs. Does that make any sense? 109 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 6: You know what's interesting is there have been some teams 111 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 6: that I thought, because of the situation that they found 112 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 6: themselves in, whether that be something happened with their quarterback, 113 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 6: a lot of turnover on their roster, I thought, oh man, 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: it's gonna take them a while to rebuild that. And 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 6: then in short order. They're right back in the mix 116 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 6: out out. The Rams are a good example of that. 117 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 6: Like we thought a few years was that maybe two 118 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: years ago there were questions, A. Yeah, there were questions 119 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 6: like did they they basically sell them? 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Did they basically sell their future for a Super Bowl run? 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 6: And and so you know there's a question of you know, 122 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 6: how can they get back, how soon can they get back? 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're right back in it and one 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: of the best teams in the NFL. 125 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: That's a great example of a team that knows free 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 4: agency pretty well, plays in that game. They've drafted third, fourth, 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 4: fifth round really well and when they've. 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: Had some because that's all they had. 129 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's like verse and others they've drafted. I'll 130 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: give you a team Amber. I think they kind of 131 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: maybe could be like that, and I might be wrong 132 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: about this. The Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos are. 133 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: A team that have had a great history. 134 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 4: You know, been around, an old AFL team that had 135 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 4: you know, they had a little bit when they started 136 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: a run, they had to run through the seventies. The 137 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: Cowboys played them in a Super Bowl in seventy seven. 138 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: They kind of went through the eighties with the Dan 139 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: Reeves administration. Yeah, they've had a great history. They've had 140 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: probably very good playoff success, and then kind of went away. 141 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: We're struggling to find a coach kind of We're like 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: looking at their roster. It wasn't really built exceptionally well, 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: went through some general managers. But they're a team that 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: has had a history of being really, really good, kind 145 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: of falling off a little bit, and then all of 146 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: a sudden getting really good again. We look what Sean 147 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: Payton's done, But they went through a spell there where 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: they went through two or three coaches and the roster 149 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: of the general just wasn't good. So very much similar 150 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: to the Cowboys. They've they've had more success I think 151 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: in playoffs here lately as opposed to the Cowboys. But 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: to me, I kind of look at the way that 153 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: the history of their team seems very similar to what 154 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: the Cowboys have been. 155 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's talk real quick. We're talking about defense. Yesterday 156 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 6: we find out the Cowboys have made an interesting change 157 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: to their defense, not necessarily to a player, but with 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 6: the coach defensive coordinator Matty Eberflus, the decision has been 159 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 6: made that as opposed to him being on the sidelines 160 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: during the game, they're going to move him. 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Into the booth. 162 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 6: Obviously, in the booth, you can see the feel better, 163 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: you can see what's happening, you. 164 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Can see all the mistakes that Matt's making. 165 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 4: Well yeah, but also I mean where we're I mean, 166 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: you know you can do it, you see it, you 167 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: absolutely and you can as we're watching the game from 168 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: us both we can always see. 169 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 6: Things that it's it's easy to be like, oh, that quarter, 170 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 6: they do that, but it's not the same view from 171 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 6: the field. But from a coaching standpoint, and this is 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: something I was I was kind of looking around yesterday 173 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 6: and seeing different perspectives and I can't remember who it was, 174 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 6: but someone, a former coach was saying, yeah, that's nice, 175 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 6: but what you give up is being able to see 176 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 6: your players, being able to see their eyes reaction, know 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 6: what you need to be doing with them, know if 178 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: you need to be encouraging them or if you need 179 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 6: to really be pressing on them right, being able to 180 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: coach them in the moment. Those are the things that 181 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: you kind of miss when you're up there in the boots. 182 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 6: You're removed from the game a little bit. The emotion 183 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 6: of the game, and you're more just tactically thinking, Okay, 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 6: here's what I need to do here, here's what I'm 185 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 6: saying here, and make a decision. 186 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: Brian, which do you think is better? 187 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: I think personally being upstairs is the best because what 188 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: happens is it's upstairs. It's a very much. You can 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: can see the entire field. You can see their sideline, 190 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: you can see their substitution patterns. You can get an 191 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: idea of who you have on the field, who you 192 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: don't have on the field. You see guys running on 193 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: and off. The coordination has to be you have to 194 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: be very quick. But once you're able to see their 195 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: sideline and who they've got coming on, you could quickly 196 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: adjust and like you know, bass Nickel, dime dime, get 197 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: the dime out, get the goal line out, short yard 198 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: and short yards. 199 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: You know you got people. 200 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: Kind of when people in the box they're telling you 201 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: those things on the field, but being upstairs you can 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 4: actually see it with your own eyes. You could see, 203 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: Oh man, we blew that coverage. Our rotation was bad. 204 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: We were I tried to I tried to call a 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 4: Cover two look, but we stayed in Cover three and 206 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 4: our safety went down and that's a mistake. And you're like, oh, no, no, no, no, 207 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: So you're able to kind of convey that, Yeah, do 208 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 4: you miss the opportunity of walking up and saying, hey, listen, man, 209 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: we have got to find a way too, you know, 210 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: and this is sideline conversations and stuff. We've got to 211 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: find a way to be I was part of a 212 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: when they used to have the cords. 213 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: When they used to have the chords in the. 214 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: Game in Green Bay one year we had a defensive 215 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: core named Fritz Shermer had a guy get sick. Who 216 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 4: is his cord holder? They asked me, because I was 217 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: on the sideline, would you hold Fritz's cord. I learned 218 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: so much about being on the field and coaching that day. 219 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: Listen the interaction that Fritz had with the players. That's 220 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: the one thing that you kind of miss is being 221 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: now you could pick up the phone and and but 222 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: dan quinn had really good success being upstairs. Will McClay 223 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: was a huge help with him. The coaches. They were 224 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: able to identify personnel. But you're you're away from the action, 225 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: You don't you're away from two The sidelines could be 226 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: a very emotional place and you see those reactions and 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 4: you see that and it can affect how you kind 228 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: of call the game or look at the game. Being upstairs, 229 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 4: you could kind of be in your own little world. 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: You can make your notes, make your adjustments, think about 231 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: the next series. That The question I'm going to ask 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: Stephen Jones today when we have him on this afternoon 233 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: on one five three of the fan is I'm going 234 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: to ask him why now? That's what I want to know. 235 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 4: I mean, if this is something I see it as 236 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 4: a positive, but why now there's you know, there's three 237 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: there's three three games left? 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: Here? 239 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 4: Was this something that should have been was thought about earlier? 240 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: Now the answer Steven might get me, I might not. 241 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 4: Like it might be a thing where where last week 242 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: we saw a little bit of some what they had 243 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: to use a time out and Brian Schottenheimer emotionally said, 244 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: what the effort we doing out there? And so sometimes 245 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 4: maybe having somebody somewhere else might be a little thing. 246 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: That's just me speculating right there. 247 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: It's not anything I know, but maybe having that you know, 248 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: maybe hey, we we kind of messed that up. You 249 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 4: need to you need to get upstairs and figure it 250 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: out and you know, and I think that maybe is 251 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: where we're at. But I plan on asking Steven Jones 252 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: that question, why now? 253 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: Why not? You know? 254 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: And feluc even said he hadn't called. He hadn't been 255 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: in the press box for seventeen years. It's a pretty 256 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 4: long time not to be up there, and all of 257 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: a sudden decided we need to go in the press box. 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 6: Shody did say, I think it was yesterday. It maybe 259 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: may have been this morning one oh five dot three 260 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 6: the fan, but he did say, and I read the 261 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 6: comment he said he was asked a similar question. His 262 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 6: response was, you know, we feel like we got on 263 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 6: a run and played some good defense in those three 264 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 6: games that we won in a row, and then we 265 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 6: lost to Detroit. So it wasn't a situation at that 266 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 6: point where we were just going to make a wholesale 267 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 6: change after one game that we didn't play well and 268 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 6: then obviously you lose the next and that's where it 269 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: falls off. But he said he didn't think that that 270 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 6: it was a situation where they should have necessarily done 271 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 6: it earlier. It really they thought that maybe they solved 272 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 6: a lot of the problems when they got the new 273 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 6: players in they got on that run and then things 274 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 6: started to fall apart. So I get that it does 275 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 6: feel like no matter what, no matter even if they 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 6: played really well, it does feel like it's still gonna 277 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: be like did we wait too long? And that's my 278 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 6: question for you, Amber, if you as you look at this, 279 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 6: is there anything that this defense can do in the 280 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 6: last three games? Because Jerry said these games are going 281 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 6: to be a part of the conversation on you know, 282 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 6: what they're gonna do with defensive coordinator going forward? Is 283 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 6: there anything they can do if they pitch a shut 284 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 6: off these final three games? Is that enough for you 285 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 6: to feel confident that going into next year, Matt Ebraflus 286 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 6: is the right got to lead the defense. 287 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, but no, I mean, it's just a 288 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: little too late for that in my personal opinion, because 289 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: you have to look at who you're playing against as well. Yes, 290 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: you have a tough matchup this weekend against the Chargers, 291 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 5: but after that you have Washington and then the New 292 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: York Giants. You're not gonna impress me by playing a 293 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 5: really good game against those two offense right there. And 294 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 5: to your original question, Derek and I've been on both 295 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: I've experienced a game on the sideline and at the 296 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 5: press box too. On the sideline, we all know the 297 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 5: game happens so much faster, faster, so much faster is insane, 298 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: and it's so hard to see what exactly is going on. 299 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 5: And I mean credits to all those coaches who do 300 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: that and have that ability, but it's very difficult. And 301 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 5: this is why I think this change will actually be 302 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 5: beneficial to Eberflus and his future because even if it's 303 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 5: not here with the Cowboys, let's say he still has 304 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: to look for a job, you know, and finish the 305 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: season strong. Iberflus And I'm saying this from my own 306 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 5: point of view. I have a soft spot for him, 307 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: because I think he's a very nice guy and I 308 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: have so much respect for him, But based on all 309 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,119 Speaker 5: the things I've always seen pre game on the sideline, 310 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 5: he doesn't seem to have the type of personality that 311 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: connects with the players. And he tries, he tries, but 312 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 5: in my eyes, there's some type of disconnect just because 313 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: it's it's not the right personality. It doesn't seem to 314 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,239 Speaker 5: be the right fit to have that type of communication 315 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: or relationship with those players and there's nothing wrong with that. 316 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 5: It just happens, you know. It's not that he's being 317 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 5: a jerk or not trying. He's trying, but it's just 318 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: sometimes doesn't work. And I think that's why when you 319 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 5: mentioned the communication with the players and being there, because 320 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 5: there's that lack of relationship there. I think he's just 321 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 5: gonna find more, much more success just being up there 322 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: bird's eye view and just seeing the game differently and 323 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: taking that part of the game out and just focusing 324 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: really on the changes, and maybe we are able to 325 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: see some positive adjustments from him watching the game up there. 326 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Derek, a couple a couple of things though on that, 327 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: And to me, I'm to the point where right now 328 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: I think Ambro's right. It doesn't affect me because if 329 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: the fact that Philadelphia wins on Saturday and the divisions 330 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: wrapped up and you're completely out of the playoffs that way, 331 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: I'm playing these last two games in a different light. 332 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm now thinking more about twenty twenty six, 333 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: so you know, and with also with Bland and already 334 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: being out and stuff like that, looking at new guys, 335 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: it's kind of that's kind of what we're at right now, 336 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to take the last two weeks and evaluate 337 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: more of the players than I am the coaches, you know, 338 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: and see how that goes. I think, to be honest 339 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: with you, I think the die has been cast here. 340 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: I think the die has been cast. That's just my 341 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: personal appearent opinion and anything from anybody at the Cowboys 342 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: have told me a thing. I just kind of feel like 343 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: though that this right now is probably going to be 344 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: a change. 345 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 3: We saw it happen. 346 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: With with when When you look at Mike Nolan, they 347 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: played a game on the third of January, the fifth 348 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: of January, the eighth of January, he was relieved of 349 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: his job. By the eleventh of January, they had another 350 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator in Dan Quinn. I don't know if they'll 351 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: go that fast, but I think the first and the 352 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: second might happen that way. 353 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: That's just my opinion on this. 354 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. We'll come back. 355 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 6: It's yeednytime, It's Friday, Hamer Scott some good questions chorus. 356 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 6: We'll do that here in the second segment. We'll be 357 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 6: back Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 358 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: If you can't be at the stadium. 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Back to the break. 411 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: At and t connecting changes everything. 412 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 413 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: It is the second segment of the break Live from 414 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 6: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, it is YETI 415 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: time with AG and what you got for us. 416 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: This segment is presented by YETI officially licensed YETI Cowboy 417 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: Year is now available as Stadium pro shops, Concession and 418 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 5: on Yetti dot Com. All right, okay, so today let's 419 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: see if this works out or not. But this is 420 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 5: all Christmas theme and I'm posting I'm bringing some Christmas movies. 421 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: Christmas characters. I'm gonna give a quick description of the 422 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: theme of that character or movie, and then I want it. 423 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: I want you guys to relate it to somebody or 424 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: a situation, whatever it makes whatever that description or character 425 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 5: reminds you of about the team and the Cowboys or whatever. 426 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 427 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: So it's a Christmas movie? Yell? 428 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: For example, I'm gonna give the first one. 429 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: Okay, and I I haven't seen many of these, but 430 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: I'll give it a go. 431 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: But I'll give you descriptions. Okay, okay, So that for 432 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 5: the first one, Buddy Elf, he's overly positive, believes no 433 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: one can stop him, and he always brings chaotic energy 434 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: wherever he goes. If he had to think of somebody 435 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 5: or a situation that gives you that vibe, Who is it? 436 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: Oh, we don't have the same one, Go ahead, I'll 437 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: let you go first. Is it George Pickens? That same 438 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: kind of that energy. 439 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: There's chaos, but there's always something kind of always positive. 440 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: But you know, he's he's kind of been a situation 441 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: where it's still some chaos around him. He's always bringing 442 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: like people are always kind of critical of him in 443 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: a way. But I think since the cowboys have been, 444 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: he's been. He's been a super positive guy, even after 445 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: some of the games where it hasn't been. 446 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: So I know, I didn't take your guy, then who 447 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: is it, Derek? 448 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: My guy's Cavante Turpin. 449 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 6: I'm just like with the stuff, like with the whole 450 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: you know, fair catch not fair catch. It just seems 451 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: like this year has been moments, moments where it's like 452 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 6: he can break one any play, but it's like these 453 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 6: just weird moments, like what is going on? And he 454 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 6: does have supreme confidence, and it's really interesting. I love 455 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 6: it because you know, I'm not a guy that's particularly tall, 456 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: so I love it when guys that are particularly tall 457 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 6: supreme confidence, like I don't care how big you are, 458 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 6: get after it, let's go. And I think Avante has that. 459 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 6: He has that a lot. So yeah, I would say 460 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: Cavant took there. All right, that's the right answer, by 461 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 6: the way, thank you, So I went. 462 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: I went. 463 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 5: There's no right or wrong one. Feel free to throw 464 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 5: in yours if you. If something comes to. 465 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: My Turpin is definitely buddy elf, like just watch I 466 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 6: haven't seen the movie, so I'm guessing that's. 467 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: A good Oh my god, Yeah, crazy that's. 468 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: But she's the way you described the character is like 469 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: super positive but chaos. 470 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: He's one of the funniest art actors ever. 471 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so soon as you said movies, I almost send 472 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: Josh in there. Well, I'm sure Josh over there. 473 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: He's got a million, a million different nancewers. 474 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 5: Reach these all right. Next one, Home Alone with Kevin. 475 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 5: He always he always succeeded when he's left on his 476 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 5: own and forced to improvise. 477 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 12: Hmm. 478 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: Is there anybody that reminds you of Home Alone? Kevin? 479 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: Is that Dak in the pocket when he's kind of 480 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: when he has like everything's kind of breaking down around him. 481 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: Not likely, I know, but no, but but but things 482 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 4: are like going kind of he's get you leave him, 483 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: leave him alone, you let him kind of you snap 484 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: him the ball. He kind of moves around, but like 485 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: it looks like it's something bad's about to happen. Then 486 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: he finds a way to kind of make a play 487 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 4: that's kind of very Dak. 488 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 6: Like that's the perfect one, Brian, because when you think 489 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 6: about it, like you watch that movie and there's just 490 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: stuff coming every few minutes. There's a new challenge, and 491 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 6: he figures out the perfect way to defeat it, and 492 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 6: it's like, that's really I'll say that's Dak against Green 493 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 6: Bay against Micah. Yeah, because Michah just kept coming, he 494 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 6: was coming, and Dak would be like not today, Nope, 495 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 6: not today, and so yeah I would I would say 496 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 6: dok too. 497 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 5: That's the chat agrees with you guys. 498 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: Everyone's mentioning who they mentioned it for the first one? 499 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: Who did the chat say for the first. 500 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 5: One I saw someone mentioned that was pretty mixed. CD 501 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 5: for terb Sam, So it's most kind of all over 502 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 5: the place. 503 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: First Sam was interesting, all right. 504 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: A Christmas story Ralphie. He wants one thing all season 505 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 5: long and everyone keeps telling him it won't happen. 506 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: It's Jerry Jones. 507 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Trayon Dicks. 508 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be anything. 509 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: It could be it's Jerry Jerry, It's Schary. 510 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: He wont every year it's this. He talks in talks 511 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 3: and he talks and talks at the and then now 512 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: we're down to the end and people. 513 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Just want that one Christmas wish today? 514 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: Do you take responsibility for this season? And he went 515 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: into his yes, I do I make responsibility for it. 516 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 4: Every year he's he opens, he opens the press conference 517 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: and ox start and everybody's like listening, and by the 518 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: end everybody's going, poor Jerry. You know, he's once again 519 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: has to be reminded that they're not going to be 520 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: in the playoffs and stuff like that. So I would 521 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: say that would be him, that. 522 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: Mine's Jaden Blue. 523 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 6: Oh that's not a bad one, yeah, because you know 524 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 6: he wants all the nice things, the cleats and stuff 525 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 6: like that. 526 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Then he shoots his eye out. 527 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 5: It's almost up there. Okay, wh would you say it 528 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 5: was yours? 529 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: What I say was mine? 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: Ohon, he just wants the field I want to play. 531 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 6: Like and then gets a concussion at the house. 532 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: It's a it's a rough year. 533 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 5: From a man, all right. The Grinch he shows up 534 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 5: and ruins Christmas for everybody. 535 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 536 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: This is kind of mean. I hate it and saying it. 537 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: But Matt, I don't think you're wrong. 538 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 6: I mean, like that's been Look look let's and I 539 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: say it in jest's if we have fun. 540 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 12: Yeah. 541 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: Well, also the French turns out to be a good character. 542 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: Yeah he's got a good heart. He means well, but like, 543 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: yeah it worked out, it hasn't worked out, Yeah, it 544 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: had it's been. 545 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: Rough and and especially when you think about it from 546 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 6: the standpoint of how good the offense is. And I'm 547 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 6: telling somebody that yesterday, I was like, that's the part 548 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: that really sure makes me feel some kind of way 549 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 6: about this season. And I'm like, this offense is really really, 550 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 6: really good, and and just the defense just couldn't get 551 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 6: to a point where it was complimentary, where it can 552 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 6: give up some big plays but just be complimentary. It 553 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 6: couldn't get to that point. That's the part that's just 554 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: so I. 555 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 4: Would say how about this one amber this would be 556 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 4: a little different. 557 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: I'd say how. 558 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: About the NFC North, And I'd say it in this 559 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: way three and one Yep, against the NFC North, that 560 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: would be but stole your Christmas. 561 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: Even the worst of their one beat you at your place. 562 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that division, I think coming into the year, a 563 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 6: lot of people thought that was gonna be the best 564 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 6: division in football. 565 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Oh No, and outside the outside the a f C 566 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: West West, I think it probably is. 567 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, your your. 568 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 4: Christmas got stolen When you couldn't win a game against 569 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: the NFC North, that was a problem. 570 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: I say, I meant NFC West, NFC West, the West 571 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: you're right. 572 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: Not the f C West. 573 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 5: N f C West, all right, Frozen Elsa. Elsa's power 574 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 5: is unstoppable when she's confident, but dangerous when she loses control. 575 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: Maybe that's George Pickens. 576 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 6: No, uh uh, actually really George. 577 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it George Pickins. 578 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, or CD. 579 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 3: It could be I'll tell you, it could be Jake. 580 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: It could be Jake Ferguson, Ferston catches it makes great 581 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: plays and then he's he's whirling around, spinning around, and 582 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: then the balls on the ground kind of guy. So 583 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: it's like that's kind of something that loses control. You're like, 584 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: oh my gosh. But and actually I think it's CD. 585 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 4: I think this is CD. 586 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 12: Yeah. 587 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: I think I would go with Pickings on that one. 588 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I think he he has a. 589 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: Ways time yeh yeah. 590 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 3: But you know what's interesting might be turping for me. 591 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 6: I would say, like Dak wouldn't be bad for this neither, 592 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 6: just because we see when Dak he doesn't get mad often. 593 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 6: But you could tell, like what if you saw a 594 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 6: sound of the sideline. I think it was the Eagles game, 595 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 6: Dak was fired up. I don't know, somebody from the 596 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 6: Eagles guy under his skin or something. But before that game, 597 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 6: it was some f bombs flying like yeah, you know them, 598 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 6: and he was like very animated and uh and went 599 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 6: out and played like it. 600 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, that that can get going when he's when 601 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: he gets hot, you know. 602 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: Okay, that's Santa. That Santa shows up when you least 603 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: expect him and causes damage. 604 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: Is this Billy Bob Thornton? 605 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: This is I think so, So I'll post this question 606 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 5: with that White Cowboys weakness always seems to pop up 607 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: at the worst possible time. 608 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 6: M run defense because you think every time we've thought 609 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 6: and I'm talking not just this year, I'm talking years past. 610 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: Every time you think it might be fixed. 611 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 6: You get to that game where it's like, yeah, it's 612 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: not fixed yet. They still got some work to do 613 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: on this. 614 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: It's a pass rush, man. We can't real it's bad. 615 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: Santa show you're right best rushing every year, every every 616 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: week for sixteen weeks, Me and Watch have come in 617 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 4: here and said, this team has a compromised offensive line. 618 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: This is a compromised offense. 619 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: I only tell you, guys, it's a compromised offensive line. 620 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: Man. Where are the sacks? We're the finishing How about 621 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: finishing in the pocket. That's bad, Santa. 622 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 4: Get somebody back their home and all of a sudden 623 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: you can't get the quarterback on the ground. This pass 624 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: rush has been bad, Santa. To me, I think the 625 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 4: run defense has gotten better. I think the past, I 626 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 4: think the I think the pass rush has been been 627 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: a big problem this year. 628 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 6: And you know the reason why I said the run 629 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 6: game the run defense is because it's we talked about 630 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 6: with that Detroit game, even though the numbers were less, 631 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: it felt like they could run the ball whenever. And 632 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: that's where I'm just like, I expected this run defense 633 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 6: to be a lot more of a of an asset. 634 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: I think right now, it's okay, Right, that's the thing, 635 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 6: it's okay. I think they're okay. 636 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: I think they can pretty pretty much tested this week. 637 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: They will, they absolutely will. 638 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: Were good testing. 639 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 6: But but I thought they were fixed and Detroit showed 640 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 6: me they're not fixed. 641 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: They they're just. 642 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: This defense is really kind of who it is. It 643 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: really is. 644 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: I know we have to go, I have four left. 645 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Sure, let's go another one. 646 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 5: It's it's Christmas, don't know, okay, last one to end it? 647 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: Then sure, let's do it. 648 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: And if we have time, we come back for the 649 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: next segment. Okay, the Polar Express. The Polar Express is 650 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: all about believing, or I would say, what do you 651 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: what did Cowboys fall have to believe in the most? 652 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 5: Right now? 653 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: Their quarterback? 654 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's yeah, it's a quarterback they got. 655 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 6: They got one of those quarterbacks in the league. Now 656 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: you have to say, he's aging, and so you always 657 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: wonder at how long does this last? 658 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Well, right now, Dak Prescott. 659 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 5: We're aging. 660 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: We all are aging. 661 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 3: But but right now, not right now, right that's facts. 662 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 6: Right now, Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks 663 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: in the National Football League. That's what the Cowboys fans 664 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 6: can at least hang their hat on. 665 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: I would say maybe two three years ago you could 666 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: say their ability to draft that that, you know, like 667 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 4: it used to be like, boy, look at them, look 668 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: at man, they're they're making these picks work and all that. 669 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 4: There was a time been a little bit we'll see 670 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: what this past class. I think there's been some some 671 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: positives that you've seen, But there was a time where 672 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: I really did believe you can hang your hat on 673 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: the their ability to draft players. And so but to 674 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: your point, Derek, I think that I think you could 675 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: really believe in. I think you could really believe in 676 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: I think you could believe in Ceedee Lamb. I think 677 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: you could believe in I think you could believe in 678 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: in Tyler Booker, by the way, I think you can 679 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: believe in him. That's something that should give you a 680 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: hope of a young guy that's. 681 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: Even with that whole interior of the offensive line. Yeah, 682 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: I think you got. 683 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 5: Something the future. You guys do believe in Schottenheimer. 684 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 6: I do until for the notice, Like that's the thing 685 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 6: about about all those kinds of things. You believe until 686 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: you don't. Right now, I believe he's putting this position. 687 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: I think he's taking this team in the right direction. 688 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 6: Now we'll see ultimately what that ends up meaning as 689 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 6: far as wins and losses on the field. I think 690 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: he is building what he said he wanted to build 691 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 6: the right kind of culture. I think he's building the 692 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 6: right kind of culture. I think he's figuring out what 693 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 6: players fit into that culture and which ones don't. I 694 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 6: think he's holding players accountable, which I've always thought is 695 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 6: necessary in order to have a good team in the 696 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 6: National Football League. So I think he's doing the right things. 697 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: The question just becomes how does he get like, how 698 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: does he handle a situation like this year where you 699 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: fall short? Does he get them to a point next 700 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 6: year where they can recover from those things. They see 701 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 6: the areas where they were really weak, and they improve 702 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 6: on those things in the off season so that by 703 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 6: the time they gets next year, we aren't talking about 704 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: the same things as problems. 705 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: In this next year as we talked about in twenty five. 706 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: I'd love to see him nine to seven and one, 707 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: finish this out because I think it buys some credibility. 708 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Then the next thing I would like for him to 709 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: do is to go and be that guy that you 710 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: know now you know he's navigated the season. They had 711 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: a winning season it you know, maybe expectations were a 712 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: little low because he was a first time head coach. 713 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: But I'd love for him to be able to finish 714 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: nine seven and one, the three game winning streak, go 715 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: into the offseason, and then go in there with the 716 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: Joneses and say, listen, we've got to do something different 717 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: with our roster. We've got to go out and maybe 718 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: playing free agency a little more. Let's not bottom fish 719 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: on this thing. You know, I'll make a change at 720 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator spot. If you allow me to do that, 721 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: I'll be happy to I'll get some guys study this, 722 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: we'll get it done the right way. But I just 723 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: want him to finish good so he can go in 724 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: there and then the Jones this. 725 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: Could say, you're right, you're right, you're right. If they 726 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: go out there and they lose. 727 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: Three straight and all of a sudden, it kind of 728 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 4: sputters and you're, you know, and you're kind of looking 729 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 4: at it. You know, the things that he really the culture, 730 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 4: the things, the words that he was saying with the players, Hey, 731 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: got to do this, got to do this. 732 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: Got that falls on kind of depth. He said it 733 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: last year. 734 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 4: But when you finish with a winning record, and you 735 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: finish on a good streak and you want to go 736 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: out there and then okay, that's not good enough. But 737 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: this is what we're going to do. That's what I 738 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: want for him. That's when I'm going to believe when 739 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: he walks in there and tells them, listen, we need 740 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: to get better at these positions. You know, instead of 741 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: just hey, it's okay, guys, whatever you want to do 742 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 4: in the off season, if you want to sign your 743 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: own and bottom fish and all that that's great, Please 744 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: don't do that, because if you do that, I have 745 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: no confidence in him. 746 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 6: The other thing I'll give him a lot of credit 747 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: for is this offense is an offense that took that 748 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 6: next step, and I think not as much attention has 749 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 6: been given the fact that he's the one running this 750 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 6: offense and moving from Mike McCarthy's offense to this offense. 751 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 6: I think he does deserve some credit for how good 752 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 6: this offense has played this year. Now you got to 753 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 6: give some difference. Also, the fact that you got George 754 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 6: Pickens out. 755 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: I think that makes a huge Yeah. 756 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 6: But all that being said, you coach, you you have, 757 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 6: and I do think that he's taken them. He's made 758 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 6: the most of that, and I think as a result, 759 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 6: you've had one of the better offenses right now, the 760 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 6: top offense when it comes to passing yards in the 761 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 6: National Football League. 762 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: I just wish and I appreciate what you said there, Derek, 763 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: But the thing that bothers me right now is we've 764 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: seen two games where somebody and you said it, I 765 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: know you and I got in. 766 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: This discussion yesterday. 767 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 4: Just just free him up a little bit more, you know, 768 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: if it means the vertical passing game. It turns into 769 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 4: fast interferences and stuff max that thing up and run 770 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: George Pickens on these corners. And all season long they've 771 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: struggled with him. They figured out how to play the 772 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: slant on him. Now kind of get him back in 773 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 4: that mode. And that's Schottenheimer's done a nice job. But man, 774 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: the last two weeks, you need to get one of 775 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: your best players. 776 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 6: Going and maybe the double move off that slant. There 777 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 6: are some things you can do with that. But but 778 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 6: you know, also that's where I get time. That's where 779 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 6: I will also give him some some some a little 780 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 6: bit of grace and say, Okay, you've learned some things 781 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 6: this year from you your team. You've learned that this 782 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 6: is how teams are going to want to take away 783 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 6: George Pickens. So, by the way, if you keep George 784 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 6: Pickens and you go into next season, they should not be. 785 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: Able to do those same things to you. 786 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 6: That's where I'm like you to correct that and that 787 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 6: that was my point about That's where I will learn 788 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 6: a lot about Shoddy is if we're talking about the 789 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 6: same storylines of the challenges that they've had this year 790 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 6: next year. Now My question starts to be how are 791 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 6: we not adjusting, How are we not adapting? 792 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 2: How are we not getting better? 793 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 6: But if those things are no longer problems, they're always 794 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 6: going to be problems. They're always solving problems. As you say, Brian, 795 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 6: is kind of like running a marathon. 796 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: It's just a. 797 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 6: Series of problems that you're solving, right, And so I 798 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 6: do think that that's a part of it, and I 799 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 6: think that's that's where I look at him and I'm saying, 800 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 6: if they can figure that part out, if they can 801 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 6: solve these problems going into next year, then I think 802 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 6: that's where I really look at him and say, he's 803 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 6: taking a next step and he's a really, really great coach. 804 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 6: Are we gonna take our final break when we come back, 805 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 6: We'll give you, guys what we think is gonna happen 806 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 6: this weekend Cowboys versus Chargers till we'll be right back Dallas, 807 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 6: Cowboys dot Com. 808 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 12: Real every day begins with a promise, a promise to 809 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 12: work hard and to build a future. 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This segment's brought to you 865 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 6: by blockchain dot Com and let's get to the game. 866 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 6: Let's see what we think going to happen real quick 867 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 6: before we make our picks. I did have one question 868 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 6: for you guys about this game. I'm going to give 869 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 6: you four names. Which one of these offensive players do 870 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 6: you think you really want to see more of this 871 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 6: week or in the subsequent two games beyond that in 872 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 6: order to help you with evaluations going into the offseason. 873 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 6: Nate Thomas, Luke schoon Maker, Jalen Tolbert or Jonathan Mingo. 874 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 4: Nate Thomas. Nate Thomas for me, okay, I just feel 875 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 4: like to me though, because I've got to figure out 876 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: the right tackle thing. And Jeff Cavan I had a 877 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 4: discussion this morning on a podcast we do and we 878 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 4: had the discussion about he didn't feel like that that 879 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 4: Nate Thomas was all that great and he's going to 880 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 4: have to address it with the fourteenth pick potentially, and 881 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: that I disagreed with him. I think with this offensive 882 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 4: line coaches that you have the offensive staff that you have, 883 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 4: I really have a lot of faith. This kid basically 884 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 4: played his rookie year at tackle. There were some really 885 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 4: some good things you saw. There's some bad things you saw. 886 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 4: I want to continue to see him play because now 887 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 4: I have a decision to make it right tackle, you know, 888 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 4: and I want to make I want to make sure 889 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 4: that okay, I left tackle, you know. But I've got 890 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 4: some situation I go think about with Guidon because my 891 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: guy guiding can't stay healthy right now. I mean it's 892 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 4: a young guy that's now kind of been banged up. 893 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 4: But I want to see I want to continue to 894 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 4: see more from Nate Thomas. I know the thing with 895 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: Mingo and all, it's a wide receiver thing and all that. 896 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 4: I think that's going to take care of itself. But 897 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: I just want to continue to get Nate Thomas. 898 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 3: More reps for me. 899 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 5: And all of these are great names. I think all 900 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: of them are the right answer to above. With me, 901 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 5: I've still seen very little of Mingo, And you know, 902 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: going back to last year when he got on the team, 903 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 5: there wasn't enough time there for him, and then this 904 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: year still not enough time. So I don't want to 905 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 5: go into next year being like, oh, I want to 906 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 5: see Mingo, see what he's got, Like I want to know. 907 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 5: I want to know and have a better eye idea 908 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 5: of what exactly we have with Jonathan Mingo. Now I'm 909 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 5: curious to see, does Dak, let's say they're out this weekend, 910 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 5: does Dak continue to play for the rest of them? 911 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 3: That's that's now. 912 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: This thing if also turns Saturday and they and Philly wins, 913 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 4: my attitude, Yeah, you're gonna try and win the Chargers game. 914 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: Play it. 915 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm not playing on that bad turf with the Commander's field, 916 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 4: that that thing late in the year, that's a nightmare. 917 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: And then the thing at the Meadowlands there at that 918 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 4: MetLife Stadium, that turf, I'm not playing. 919 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: You're not playing any Dak. 920 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 4: I agree, you could, you could, You can tell you 921 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 4: can take everybody off the practice squad and play them 922 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 4: and all that. You know, Yeah, they're gonna want to 923 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 4: win games. We as a whole when you work in 924 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: this organization. You want to win games, you don't want 925 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 4: to tank games. I wouldn't be complaining about the spot. 926 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 4: You know, if I could go up a little bit 927 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 4: and pick a little bit better player, I'd be happy 928 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 4: about that. But to me, Dak Prescott, if you're eliminated 929 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 4: and you want to play this game against the Chargers, 930 00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: try and win it. 931 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 3: I guess with Shot he's trying to do win games. 932 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 3: I think it's important. I just told you how important 933 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: it was. 934 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: But man, I'm thinking about Dak Prescott and maybe with 935 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 4: Joe Milton, I could beat the Commanders, and I can 936 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 4: and I can find a way to beat the Giants, 937 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 4: so that that would be my I. 938 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 5: Give him your experience. 939 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 6: Well that's the thing. And I don't know if they 940 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 6: will do it. I think they'll play that. But in 941 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 6: my opinion, I actually think it's a great thing to 942 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 6: evaluate Milton, Like, you still want to find out can 943 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 6: Milton be your backup? Can he a sustainable backup for 944 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 6: the next several years? And I think you got to 945 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 6: get him into some game situations. 946 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: See he played, he played in Buffalo last year a 947 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,959 Speaker 4: game in the final game of season, played really really well. 948 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 3: To me, give him these next two games. 949 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 4: If that, if you in factor eliminated, you know, and 950 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 4: I would even consider maybe not even playing Quinn Williams 951 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: and some other guys like that. I am not interested. 952 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 4: I'm not interested in having my star players playing meaningless games. 953 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 6: I'm already worried about what's going to happen with with 954 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 6: Deron Bland and whatever might come of that. 955 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: If he's going to have to have surgery, I don't. 956 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: Say what of that. I think I know what's going 957 00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 3: to happen here. 958 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 4: If I could just quick, they're gonna look at the 959 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 4: screw that's in his foot. Screw might have to be replaced. 960 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 4: That's what they're kind of talking about right now. Maybe 961 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 4: not a full on, completely reconstructed kind of thing, but 962 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 4: right now there's some concern about the screw. 963 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 12: Yeah. 964 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 6: I mean, at this point, I just want him to 965 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 6: be able to get an off season. Yeah, I think 966 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 6: it's important for him to get an off seas And 967 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 6: I wanted to be able to play pain free too, 968 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 6: because that's also part of it. I wonder how much 969 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 6: of the struggles that we saw this year are related 970 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 6: to that. 971 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: You know, there's probably some there too. 972 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, real quick, give me some picks for this game. 973 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen? Cowboys versus Chargers. 974 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 5: I give flip flopping in my head because the Cowboys 975 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 5: are one of those themes that they can very much, 976 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 5: They can very well go out and win and then 977 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 5: you're like, well, what where was all that last week? 978 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 5: Where was it? But I am picking them to lose. 979 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 5: I think one more team has a lot more to 980 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 5: fight for at the moment. And again, like we said, 981 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 5: we'll find out on Saturday if the Cowboys are in 982 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 5: or out, which we Okay, that's not right, but I 983 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 5: think the they're still gonna show up. They're gonna put 984 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 5: up a five. But the Chargers get the win on 985 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 5: this one. I would say thirty five twenty three, okay. 986 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is Dallas is probably gonna lose this game. 987 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 4: I would say this game is going to be in 988 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 4: the range of thirty to twenty. 989 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 6: Four, right, And of course I'm gonna pick the Cowboys, 990 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 6: but I will say this, I do think, actually, what 991 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 6: the surprise of this. 992 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: The surprise of this will. 993 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 6: Be the Cowboys defense will play better, and then everybody's 994 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 6: gonna be left saying. 995 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: Why didn't I do this? 996 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, but I do think they will 997 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: play better. 998 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 6: I do think it will help having Eva Flus up 999 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 6: top and being able to really just evaluate what's happening 1000 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 6: in the moment, make decisions and adjustments a lot quicker, 1001 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 6: which could affect at and I think this offense will 1002 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 6: continue to do what this offense does. 1003 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think that was their best 1004 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 3: game last week at home. 1005 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 6: Certainly this season, I think they'll get back on the 1006 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 6: track of what they've been at home offensively, and so 1007 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 6: I do think they'll get a win. Give me, I 1008 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 6: don't know, thirty three to twenty seven. 1009 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: How about that? 1010 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 6: All right? I appreciate you guys, Joes. We'll be back 1011 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 6: on Monday, which you know what went right and wrong. 1012 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 6: Next week we're gonna have a really altered schedule because 1013 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 6: we'll have the Christmas Day game on the road, so 1014 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 6: we'll only be doing shows on Monday and Tuesday for 1015 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 6: all of our podcasts, So make sure you check us 1016 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 6: out next week. 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