1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,199 Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa Mouth part. Hey, everyone, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. So this 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: week is going to be a little bit different. It 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: has been weighing on my mind as we look at 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: a society that really seems broken, as we saw so 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: many people struggle over the past couple of years. We've 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: seen suicide's up, drug overdoses, political tension and conflict, just 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: so many problems that seem to be plaguing or nation. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk about God on this podcast, 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: and I was thinking to myself, who would be the 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: perfect messenger for the audience, Someone who is relatable, someone 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: who wears their faith bravely and acts in that faith. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: And I thought of Jonathan Isaac. He is an NBA 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: player for the Orlando Magic and you might have seen 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: him recently. He has stood up for freedom and talking 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: about why he has chosen not to get the vaccine. 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: He has stood tall in that conviction. Also last year, 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: after the NBA had just resumed after a COVID hiatus, 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: every player note for the anthem, but he did not. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: He stood tall, and he stood tall because he wanted 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: to unite people in faith and look towards God as 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: the answer and a lot of the problems we're facing 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: as a country. It is hard in today's day and 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: age to stand strong in your convictions. There is ridicule, 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, you get ostracized. It is hard. Yet Jonathan 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Isaac has done it in such a brave and courageous way. 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: So I am so excited to have oh and he's 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: also an ordained minister um as well, So I am 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: so excited for this conversation. I hope you love it 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: and stay with us. Yea. So having this conversation has 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: been on my mind lately. It just seems like society 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: is really broken and we have misplaced priorities and perhaps 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: we should look towards God at this moment as a society. 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: So I was thinking about who to have on and 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Isaac came to mind, NBA player for the Orlando Magic. 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: I thought he'd be the perfect person for this conversation. Jonathan, 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: thanks so much for for joining the show. I really 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Thank you for having me less. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: I really appreciate and I just want to let you 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: know I have so much respect for you. I mean, 41 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: we live in a society where you know, the wolves 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: are out right that you get criticism when you put 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: yourself out there, when you take bold stances. And not 44 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: only have you been bold about choosing freedom when it 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: comes to the vaccine, but you've been so bold about 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: your faith. So I just want to commend you and 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: say that I have an immense amount of respect for you, 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: appreciate you know, Jonathan, as I mentioned, you know, we 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: we look around at society, and you know, we look 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: at what happened throughout COVID and throughout the pandemic. We 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: had youth depression and suicide, increasing overdoses, isolation. Uh, there 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: was one point during COVID where one in six Americans 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: had started therapy. Just a lot of brokenness, a lot 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: of hurt, and just a heaviness hanging over the country. 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Is God the solution? Is that the direction we need 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: to turn to as a society. And what impact do 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: you think that would have? You know, I think, you know, 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: the easy answer is it's just yes, God, God, God 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: is the answer. Um. But I think it's so much 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: deeaper than that. And with with with having this conversation 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: and just everything that you mentioned with everybody is going through. UM, 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a perfect picture of us trying 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: to do life on our own, you know, as we 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: know or ever we as we've tried to make it happen. Um. 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: And if anything in this time has taught me, even 66 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: with being a Christian and following God and having hard 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: times and all that stuff, what has taught me is 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: that life is so fickle, um, that we are so fickle, 69 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: and that ultimately, if you're going to make it in 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: this time, your trust, your peace, your faith, who you 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: are has to be grounded and somebody greater than yourself, 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, we fail ourselves. 73 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: We tell each other people that we put in places 74 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: of prominence or priority, they fail us, um, you know, 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: left and right, not to because anything necessarily wrong with them, 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: but just because they're human. And so you know, in 77 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: this time, I've I've made it even more point to 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I've got to focus in on my trust, 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: my relationship, everything that I do being filtered, you know, 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: through God's word. And He's been able to keep me 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: through hard times. He's been able to keep me through 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the values that I've gone through in life, and and 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: now COVID and all these different things you know, I've 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: been able to stay at peace and joy and I 85 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: think that's exactly, um what everybody needs. Well, And you 86 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: know you mentioned his humans. You know we're fallible, we're imperfect. 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I am right. So like I 88 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: grew up in a Christian home with two devout Christian parents, 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: but I spent a lot of time, you know, particularly 90 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: as I got older, running from God right, trying to 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: fulfill life, fill life in my heart with emptiness and 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: things that you ultimately just make you feel worse and 93 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: make you feel more empty. And so I'm trying as 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: I get older to be wiser and you know, realize 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: that I'm not in the driver's seat and interm my 96 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: focus to filling myself up with you know, God and 97 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: looking in that direction. Have you ever spent time on 98 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: the run from God? Absolutely absolutely said, I think I 99 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: think that's a story for a lot of people, um. 100 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: And I think I think it's the story of even 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: even people in the Bible. I think it's the story 102 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: of Israel um as a whole when it comes to 103 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: God or Um, you know, the seeds being planted in 104 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: us from a young age. I grew up Christian. My 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: dad was my dad was My dad was the most 106 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Christian Christian ever. You know, we would be in church 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: every day. It felt like, you know, learning scriptures and 108 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: and singing songs and all that stuff. But as I 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: began to grow up and basketball started to take over 110 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: my life, like that's where I started to find my identity. Um. 111 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: And I had this picture in my mind of what 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: a real man was. And it wasn't a Christian it 113 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: was it was a man who had money and a 114 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: man who had you know, prestige and you know, his 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: his pick of the literal when it came to women. 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: And and that that's the picture that I thought was valuable. 117 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: That's the picture that I thought had the real meaning. 118 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: And you know, Christianity was more so just you know, 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: you did it if if you were weak, or you 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: did it if if uh, you know, you know, you 121 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have as much information or really for me, it 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: just turned into could tradition where it was like, you know, 123 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: I pray when times get tough. Um, you know, I 124 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't curse God in any way. I still knew, you know, 125 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: to a degree in the back of my mind that 126 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: he was real, but it wasn't somebody that I took seriously. UM. 127 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: But as I begin to get the things that I 128 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: thought I wanted as it again and received the thing 129 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: that you know that I was chasing after it was 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: coming into the NBA, I was like, man, these things 131 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: are not at all what everyone made them to be. 132 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: And to be around people who had it and people 133 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: who I looked up to the had it and seeing 134 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: their lives and seeing you know, they weren't happy. You 135 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: know they were they were they were just as miserable 136 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: as me trying to fulfill um. You know that the 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: God shapehold that we all have in our hearts. Um. 138 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, trying to fulfill feel that thing to do 139 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: pleasure and and money and all these different things. UM. 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: And when I begin to sit down and get back 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: to the root of um, you know who I was, 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: and all the all the seeds that my parents had 143 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: instilled in me, and begin to church out those truths, 144 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is where real strength lies. 145 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: This is where real you know, where it really is 146 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: to be a man, to stand on your convictions and 147 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: to and I'll tell you, Lisa, for me, it was 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: it was the love of God. Um. You know, I 149 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: started to figure out that a lot of times. A 150 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of the things that I was chasing after it 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: came from being wanting to be loved. And I think 152 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: that's from a place of a lot of people wanting 153 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to be accepted, wanting to be uh, you know, appreciated 154 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: and just and just loved by the world. And when 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: I really started to figure out and realized that God 156 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: loved Jonathan for Jonathan. He didn't love God for stuff. 157 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't love me for stuff. He didn't 158 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: love me for the basketball player that I was. He 159 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: didn't love me when I made shots. He loved me 160 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: for Jack de Jonathan. And when I began to experience 161 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: that love and walk out that love, go to church 162 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: and be taught about that love, and experience that love 163 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: with other people who are believe as I really started 164 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: to grow and become one you today, has that been 165 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: hard to you know, so boldly where your faith on 166 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: your sleeve as you have in the public eye. Well, 167 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, you know. I wouldn't say it's hard. I 168 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: would say at times it gets uncomfortable, um, you know, 169 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: understanding the times that we're living in. Uh. But but 170 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: for me, at least I treated like I treated like 171 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: anybody else treats, you know, they're like like when I 172 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: think about it, like this, like when you go on 173 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: Instagram and you see somebody's page, they're giving you a 174 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: snapshot of who they are, what they've experienced. You know, 175 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: they take you on the journey of their life. And 176 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: it's like, if you go on my Instagram page, you're 177 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: going to see if you're going to see a bunch 178 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: of Jesus. But I'm being authentically and truthfully me. You know, 179 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't be myself if if if Jesus 180 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't in the picture, because he is the best part 181 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: of me. He's helped me um in ways that no 182 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: one else has ever helped me, and helped me get 183 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: to a place of you know, confidence in myself and 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: just just just all the things that I used to 185 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: struggle with when I was a kid and all those things. 186 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: He has been such a such a rock for me. 187 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't be I wouldn't be being honest. 188 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be being authentic if I didn't, you know, 189 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: give him the glory that he deserves. So I think 190 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: about it with you. I want to be as authentic 191 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: as you want to be authentic in and to do that, 192 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: I have to give God you want to hear a 193 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: funny story. So I played sports in high school, not 194 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: at the level of you do you obviously they never, 195 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, went on to the heights that you have. 196 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: But I played field hockey and lacrosse in high school, 197 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: and I had a teammates mom hand me this book 198 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: randomly called The Purpose Driven Life, which I'm sure you're 199 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: very familiar with by Rick Warren. And if you know me, 200 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I lose everything, okay, Like I will buy something that 201 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: morning and somehow find a way to lose it by 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: the night. This is literally one of the only items 203 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: that I have not lost. It's almost in perfect condition, 204 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and somehow it has made it through all my moves 205 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: as an adult, going from you know, going on campaigns 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: in Florida and Wisconsin, going to New York, you know, 207 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: d c out to Miami, Florida. So has stayed with 208 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: me throughout all this time. I just I, I think 209 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: that's just, uh, you know, so interesting. And it's the 210 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: book that I always come back to what I've been 211 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: on the run, and I realized that I'm in the 212 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: wrong and and I need to you know to turn 213 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: my eyes back to God. What just to ask your question, 214 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: what in particular stands out to you from it or 215 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: what ministers to you in any way. Well, I think 216 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: in in the church that I go to I've been 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: going to recently sort of has been talking about this 218 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot as well as we we always kind of 219 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: wonder like what's her mission in life, what's her purpose? 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: And so what stands out to me about it is 221 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: like our purposes, God's purpose, right, and God's mission, and 222 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: like how can we serve that mission? And so I 223 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: I think it's just sort of solidifies to me that 224 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's a bigger reason we're here, and you know, 225 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: sort of like finding that calling and then how how 226 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: to practice that calling in our everyday lives. And so 227 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: it's just I just find that so interesting. I literally 228 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: lose everything and I have not lost this book and 229 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: it is quite literally in perfect condition, which again, if 230 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: you know me, is is very shocking. So one of 231 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: one of the things that I love about that I 232 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: love about purposes that like you, there's there's a feeling, 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: there's there's a piece, there's a there's something that is 234 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: like unmatched to anything in the world. When you're when 235 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: you are operating in your god given purpose, your god 236 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: given you know, like like the God's destiny or operation 237 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: for your life. And for me that there was a 238 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: time when I thought I was really living, and I 239 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: whenever I talked to young people or a young man 240 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that, this is what I tell them. 241 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: Where I was like when I got to the NBA 242 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: or when I got this stuff that I thought I 243 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: wanted in my mind, I was like, man, I'm living. 244 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing what everybody wants to be doing. I've made 245 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: it to the top and I'm living the life that 246 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: everybody wants. But as I began to to to fall 247 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: in love with God and and and both go down 248 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the path of his you know, his his his his 249 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: journey for my life, with his purpose for my life, 250 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I begin to to to reach a whole different level 251 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: of fulfillment. And now the things that I'm doing now 252 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: speaking to different people, ministering to young people about faith 253 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: or what it is to find the identity and God, 254 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is living, this is my purpose. 255 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: And all I was doing was missing out. I thought 256 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I was living, but I wasn't living at all. I 257 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: was dying. Um. And now getting to the place where 258 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm at today, I'm like, I'm operating in what I 259 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: believed to be God's purpose and will for my life, 260 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: and it feels amazing. There's no trade off. I'm not giving, um, 261 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not giving on one side and losing 262 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: on the other side like I was, um, you know before, 263 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: I'm only growing, I'm only gaining um. And even when 264 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I know make mistakes, even when I stumble, God is 265 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: right there to help me and to pick me up 266 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: and to continue to to to help me, you know, 267 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: on this path. Well, you know, and admittedly you're you're 268 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: much more firm in your faith. I've you know, recently 269 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: been going back to church and it's just been really 270 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: on my heart that I've been, you know, kind of 271 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: was heading in the wrong direction. So I really admire 272 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, that strength that you have, and you talk 273 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: about kind of like the healing that happens with becoming 274 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: a Christian and turning your eyes to God. Just talk 275 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: a little bit about more about that, Like what does 276 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: that feel like? It explain that the people who haven't 277 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: yet experienced that in their lives or who are similarly 278 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, sort of struggling right now or trying to 279 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: find a purpose or trying to just figure out this 280 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: crazy world that we live in right now. Yeah, I 281 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: would say like I would say that we were we 282 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: were created for God. We we were created for his 283 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: plans and his purpose like you laid out. And what 284 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: happens when we are in the driver's seat of our 285 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: own lives. We we we have no idea what we're doing. 286 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: We're living based off of our our emotions, our desires. 287 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: What other people who are living off of their you know, emotions, desires, 288 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: feelings or whatever are telling us to do. But we 289 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: were created to to operate and live in in the 290 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: in the confinement of God's word UM. And when we 291 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: step out of bounds of that, it's almost like a 292 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: fish being out of water. And so when we see 293 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: the problems and the catastrophes and the and the you 294 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: know that you were talking about, the suicide and and 295 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the needing therapy and all of these different things that 296 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: come with the pandemic, they can just come with everyday life, UM, 297 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: with with being human. A lot of those things happened 298 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: because we're not living um in accordance with God's word 299 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: or underneath God's protection. Un meet God's love, um, you 300 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: know uh, And so that that's what we need. What 301 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: we need to do is get back in the water. Um. 302 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: And when we talk about fostering a relationship with God, 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: God loves us um. You know. To talk about God's 304 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: love is like God knows us more than we could 305 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: ever imagine. Um. But when we when we talk about 306 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: being in relationship with him, he wants to heal and 307 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: protect us from ourselves. And so what I saw with myself, 308 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I've douted with you know, a long list of fear 309 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: and anxiety I had. I had my fair share of 310 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: love issues that, like I said, of trying to find 311 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: love in the wrong places. But that is I began 312 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: to put God first in my life and say, you 313 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: know what, God, what do you say? I know I've 314 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: been living my way for this, you know, this amount 315 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: of time, I've been doing things my way, and all 316 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: I've learned is that I can't do it my way 317 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: and survive. You know. I made it to the NBA 318 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: grade because I have a gift that God has given me. Internally, 319 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: I was in turmoil, and so people may have thought, 320 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, you look right from the outside, but they 321 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on in the inside 322 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: of me. So as I began to put God first 323 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: in my life and foster a relationship with and he 324 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: started to show me things in me, uh that that 325 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: needed to go. He started to work to put things 326 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: inside of me that needed to be there. Um. And 327 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: then it's just a journey. It's it's a process, just 328 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: like anything else. But as I began to implement his 329 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: word in my life, put Him first. Um. You know, 330 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, cut people off the phone numbers, I'm followed 331 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: of people, and and just focus on putting God first 332 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: in my life. Um. You know, I began to grow. 333 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: I begin to to to not be afraid, and to 334 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: find my confidence and to find my peace, and to 335 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: find all of that in Him, find my identity in 336 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: Him that I was trying so hard to find in 337 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: other places. Um. And and it's it's it's just a process. 338 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: So even for you, he say, as you're going down 339 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: this road of going to church, put God first, you know, 340 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: in your everyday life and in your conversations, in your uh, 341 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: in your lifestyle. Begin to to allow what he said 342 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: in his words to dictate how you operate. And you 343 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: cannot help from there but to get better, but to 344 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: find peace, to find joy, to find love, everything that 345 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: his spirit brings. Well, I I think that's really good advice, 346 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: and I certainly take that to heart. And you know, 347 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: that's obviously something that I've been working on in my 348 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: own life. You know, I think I go back to, 349 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, a few years ago my uncle, who I loved, 350 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: he he really struggled throughout his life with addiction, and 351 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: right before he died, he became a Christian, and I 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: just saw this change in him that I've never seen 353 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: anyone in my entire life. He went from and he 354 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: was always very loving to us, and he was always 355 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: a great uncle, so I adored him, but he sort 356 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: of went from having you know, this bitterness about life 357 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: and and this anger about life and circumstances. You know, 358 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: he lost his mom very young, and so you know, 359 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: understandably had been through a lot, and so but as 360 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: soon as he became a Christian, it was like a 361 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: different person. I've never seen, you know, such grace, such love, 362 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: so joy, just a dramatic turn of events, just an 363 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: entirely different person based off of that, and that really 364 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: has always stood with me, and just saying it with 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: my own eyes. Has has there ever been a moment 366 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: when God has revealed himself to you in a similar way? 367 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: There's there's there's been plenty of moments in my life. UM, 368 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do this. This, this give you a 369 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: good one. UM. I wanted this the skis of the 370 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: story in a couple of different ways. But so so 371 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: so so this this, this is this is my like 372 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: you know, coming to face. Story is long, but I'm 373 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna try to keep it short. UM. So pretty much, 374 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: I got to Orlando, UM, I began to uh, you know, 375 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: I was playing and I got hurt. I hurt my ankle. 376 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: So I was on the sideline for a little while. Um. 377 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: But during the time of me being on the sideline, 378 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was asking all these questions 379 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, why this and why that? And I 380 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: was upset about being on the sideline. And I went 381 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: to chapel one one day, um where they have chapel 382 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: before the games. And I get into the chapel and 383 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: the chaplain says one verse, he says, why do you 384 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: call me Lord board and not do what I say? 385 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: This looks like forty six And it goes on to 386 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: say you know, if if you hear my words and 387 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: you put them into action, your wives. But if you 388 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: hear my words and you don't put them into action, 389 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: you're foolish. And when the trials of life come, all 390 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: this stuff you'll be wiped away. And I began to 391 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: look at myself like, you know what that that's me. 392 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm the one who you know, I say 393 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: boord board, I pray with Tom said tough, but I 394 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: don't really care, you know, as too much as to 395 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: to what he has to say or direction for my 396 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: life at all. And so I began to go down 397 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: this journey like, you know what, I'm gonna look this 398 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: thing out. I'm gonna look out if if God is, 399 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: if God is who he who he says he is, 400 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: or if he if he's really real. And so I 401 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: started watching all all types of apologetics and all this 402 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: different stuff. Um And one day a man met me 403 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: on the elevator and he said, he said, he stopped 404 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: me just out of the clear brook. He said, I 405 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: know it's gonna make you great. And I said what 406 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: he said, you got to know Jesus, And I was like, 407 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, I know Jesus. I know this. Then the 408 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: third like, you know, kind of brushed them off. And 409 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: then I just kept running into this guy. I gotta 410 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: I kept running into him. We ended up we lived 411 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: in the same building, but I kept running into him 412 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: in the parking lot in different places. And then he 413 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: asked me to lunch, and I'm like, you know what, 414 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: if I see you one more time, I'll do to 415 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: lunch with you. And so, uh, I sitn't long behold 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: I see him again. I go to lunch with him 417 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: and he's you know, we're just talking, just chatting. But 418 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: after I go to lunch with him, I'm like, Okay, cool, 419 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't never have to talk to this guy again. Uh. 420 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: And then so a couple of days later, I am 421 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: going to see a Christian movie with with an old 422 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: friend of mine and the Christian movie was terrible. It 423 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: was awful, and so we left the Christian movie and 424 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: went to a different movie. Uh uh. And again the 425 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Christian movie was a terrible because it was Christian and 426 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: just that the acting was very cheesy, and so we 427 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: we left the movie. We went to a different one. Um. 428 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: And then after the movie, I'm pulling out of the 429 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: movie theater and this guy is pulling in and our 430 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: car stopped. Like I'm going one way, he's going another way. 431 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: So we're both looking right at each other, and I 432 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: wrote down the window and I'm like, what in the 433 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: world is going on? So I'm like, I was like, 434 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you know what. God obviously wants this guy to b 435 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: m I life. So I'll tell him, like, you need 436 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: breakfast tomorrow. So we go to breakfast and I'm telling 437 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: him that I have this idea at breakfast to feed 438 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: the homeless. But I was gonna feed the homeless just 439 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: some burgers, and so uh, I go uh and I 440 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: tell him about the burgers, and he says, you can't 441 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: do that. I said, why why can't I do that? 442 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: He said, if you're gonna feed the homeless, you gotta 443 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: feed him, right. So it turns out that this guy 444 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: has a catering company where he feeds the homeless all 445 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: the time. What are the chances and so um, He's like, 446 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: if you come with me, you buy the food, um, 447 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: and I'll have my people cooking and we'll feed the 448 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: homeless the right way. And so we go get the food. 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: He does it. He cooks the food, all this stuff. 450 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: He sents me this address. We go to this spot 451 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: and there's a line of like two hundred homeless people 452 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: just eating, and I get it. I put my hair 453 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: it on and I just start feeding the homeless. We 454 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: just we're just feeding. And that night he said when 455 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I went home, and I was like, yo. I was like, 456 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: God has to be real. God has to be real. 457 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: So that that was the night that I sat beside 458 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: my bed and I was like, you know what, I 459 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: know the Sinner's prayer from when I was younger, but 460 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to give my life to you. 461 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: And it turns out long behold that I started going 462 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: to the church that was in the plaza um where 463 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: we gave the food and the you know, the guy 464 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: invited me to church. I was like, you know what, 465 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: if you're cool, your pastor has to be cool. And 466 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: so I get to the church. They introduced the pastor 467 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: and at him, Oh my goodness, seriously. So I've been 468 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: going to that church ever since and and he's just 469 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: been administering to me in love and I, you know, 470 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: became who I bowing him today underneath that. But that 471 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: that's my kind of like coming to God's story. But 472 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: there's been countless times of God showing up in my life, 473 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, ministering to young people from the same people 474 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: get saved in some of the craziest situations. Um, you know, 475 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: feeding people, clothing people, housing people. Um, you know right 476 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: here in the Atlantic communities. So that guy, your your 477 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: your pastor that you kept saying is your equivalent to 478 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: my the Purpose Driven Life book where you just you 479 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: can't get rid of it. It's just it's kind of 480 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: keep being there until you know you you realize what's 481 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: in front of you. Uh. So that's very funny. Um. 482 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: You know. So do you do you feel like you've 483 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: taken so many stances that are you know, against the grain, 484 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: that are are brave, that are are courageous, that you know, 485 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: take the power of conviction. Do you think is that 486 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: entirely because of your faith, that that you have the 487 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: courage to to be able to stand when everyone else 488 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: is kneeling, or to be able to stand up for 489 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, freedom when it comes to the vaccine, when 490 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: when others don't. Is that what motivates that? You know? Uh? 491 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm working on a book right now, be so called 492 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: called y Stand um. And and with the book, I'm 493 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: detailing my life of where I've come from what I've 494 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: gone through, and with the book you get a snapshot 495 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: of who Jonathan was before he he uh he met 496 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: christ and who I was. While I was at Florida 497 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: State playing basketball. I was on anxiety medication. I would 498 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: I would pass out if I had to speak in 499 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: front of anybody. Uh, you know, I'd always break out 500 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: and sweat. I really struggled with my own image, you know, 501 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: finding you know, finding my identity in the game, of 502 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: having a good game and being up and having a 503 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: bad game and being completely down. Um. You know, while 504 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: I was at Florida State, a lot of times I 505 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: would start the game really badly, and I would go 506 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: into halftime and I would cry my eyes out, and 507 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: then I'd come out the second half in ball like 508 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: there was nobody's business. And so I was. I was 509 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: really struggling in my mind, um, with who I was 510 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: chasing after love. But at the same time, I had 511 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: this gift that God has given me a basketball and 512 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: you know, to be the six pick in the draft 513 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: and the number one player in Florida all of that stuff. 514 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: So I was really going through this this this just 515 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: weird time of of of finding my self identity to 516 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: then transfer that to being you know, the only one 517 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: who who who stood for the national anthem because I 518 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: believe that Jesus Christ was the answer to the problems 519 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: that we saw. So you get this, you get this, 520 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: This clear the difference between who I was and who 521 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: I am today and the only difference is Christ is 522 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: the Lord and Savior of my life. And I've been 523 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: able to find the identity and the love that I 524 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: was so looking for in the world and him. Um, 525 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: And now I'm willing and I'm able to stand on 526 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: his word because of how I've been taught because of Um. 527 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: You know, like even when I talk about that that 528 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: that pastor, he models that to me all the time. 529 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not just standing just because I've just must. 530 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: I've watched him standing so many other places and it's 531 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: gave me the faith to do so. And uh so yeah, 532 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: it's it's one because of Christ. And uh you know, 533 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: I'm working on that now and hoping to finish up 534 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: really soon. Quick commercial break and then back with a 535 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Lando Magics Jonathan Isaac just to recap for the votes 536 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: at home. You know, this was I believe the NBA 537 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: season had just returned from COVID. There was a bunch 538 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: of things going on in the country. This was following 539 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: George Floyd stuff COVID, like, you know, just a lot 540 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: of heated things going on in the country, and everyone 541 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: kneeled except for you. Why did you stand? You talked about, 542 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, faith, but elaborate a little bit more on 543 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: that and why you decided to stand. I decided to 544 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: stand because for me, I see exactly what everybody else 545 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: was seeing in terms of the George Floyd death, the 546 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: division between black and white, the turmoil that it was creating, UM, 547 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: and not only that, the agents of people who who 548 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: were driving UM, that that division and that divisive mission. 549 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: And in looking at that, I was saying, you know what, 550 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: we've we've done this for too long. We've we've done 551 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: the back and forth. You're wrong, You're wrong, I'm right now, 552 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm right, UM. And when I begin to see that 553 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the answer that is going to heal destination, that is 554 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: going to heal the divide is the very love of God. UM. 555 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just something that I was saying, It 556 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: was something that I've experienced for myself, Like when I 557 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: was talking about um before, God has loved me in 558 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: my wrong. He's loved all of us in our wrong 559 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: and it's helped us to become better and to who 560 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: He's called us to be. And God God asked us 561 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: to show that same love. He asked us to love 562 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: our enemies because He's loved us and God for us 563 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: when we were get sinners. Um. And so I was 564 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: trying to offer a different solution to kneeling into wearing 565 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: the Black Lives mat a T shirt. In that solution 566 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: was Christ. You know, we all humble ourselves and recognized 567 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: that we all call show the God's glory. You know, 568 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: your sin isn't worse than my sin just right now, 569 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: your sin is visible, and I've got a million sins 570 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: in the closet that you just don't know about. Um. 571 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: And so I couldn't point my finger um at a 572 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: at a person or at a group of people, um. 573 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: You know, And that's what I felt like. That was staring. 574 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't against anybody who made the decision 575 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: to kneel, um. And I wasn't protesting then kneeling. I 576 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: was only you know, in my own right, offering a 577 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: solution in a different perspective to you know, what we 578 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: were seeing, and I think that's such a great point 579 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: because you know, you talk about all this division that 580 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: is going on in the country, and faith is really 581 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that great uniter, which is the message that you know, 582 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: you were just sending there now, which I think is 583 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: so important. You know, I want to say this quote 584 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: to the audience of what you've said about vaccine mandates 585 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: because I think it's just so important to highlight this. 586 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: So this is what you said. You said, this is 587 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: much bigger than just the vaccine. This is much bigger 588 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: than basketball. We're talking about the freedoms and liberties we 589 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: are afforded in this country being challenged in a way 590 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen, you know, talk about that. You'd 591 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: also mentioned, you know, religious freedom as well. You know what, 592 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: what's the correlation in there between all of that? For you, 593 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: I would say the correlation is that they're both protected, uh, 594 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, in our constitution. And so what I would 595 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: say to to to to that, it's just that with 596 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: everything that's going on, um for me, looking at COVID, 597 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: looking at you know, the the science and all of 598 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: these different things that are coming out in terms of 599 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: the nature of COVID, the fact that there's a ninety 600 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: nine point nine fobtion vival rate and the fact that 601 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: we have a vaccine that doesn't stop infection or transmission. Um, 602 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: you have you know, have people with their own uh 603 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, personal hesitancy, and then you have the religious 604 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: hesitancy because of some of the ways that you know, 605 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: these uh vaccines were developed. UM. I think that it 606 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: only gives room for for prudence and for people to say, 607 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: you know what, this should be everybody's free choice to 608 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: do so. And the fact that there hasn't been UM, 609 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: to me, it's setting a precedent that whenever there's an emergency, 610 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: then whoever is in power and who agrees with the 611 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: people of power are able to to say your rights, 612 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: your personal autonomy or religious freedom or now negotia go 613 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: by whatever standards we we we see them, you know, 614 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: we as as we see fit. And so UM you 615 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: know my feories that this thing turns into a slippery 616 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: slope and next thing, you know what happens next time 617 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: when you know they albody say no, your religious freedom 618 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't account in this space, and it doesn't account 619 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: of SPA and it doesn't account in this space. UM. 620 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: And then you get to a place where we have 621 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: no freedoms at all. And so uh, I'm standing for 622 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: everybody to be able to make of you know, the 623 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: free medical choice of their um, free medical decision of 624 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: their choice. At the same time, people who do have, 625 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, religious convictions or just feel like God as 626 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: beady't in a way to not take this at this time, 627 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: um that they have the freedom to do so. Um. 628 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: And actually I read the the quote was great, but 629 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: the one I was looking for, my bad was the 630 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: administration is setting the president that in light of any 631 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: emergency or freedom, your religious freedom, your bodily autonomy is 632 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: an up for negotiation by the people who are in 633 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: power and by the people who agree with the people 634 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: in power, which is, you know, basically what we were 635 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: just Idelian before. But I think that just so siscinctly, 636 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, nails on the head for so many people. 637 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: But you know, there's been great consequence to the decision 638 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: that you've made, which I believe is the right one. 639 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: You've had COVID before, you have natural immunity. You're also 640 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: young and healthy, so your risk is even less than 641 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: what it is for you know, the average of most Americans. Right, 642 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: You're the epitome of health as as a healthy young man, 643 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: especially someone who's natural immunity. But there's been great consequence 644 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: to the decision that you have made. You know, has 645 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: that felt isolating? You know, in considering that most of 646 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: the players have gotten into how how hard has that been? 647 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Has it has it been isolating? You know, honestly it hasn't. 648 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a conversation that I've had, you know, 649 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: with my teammates or with the organization. You know that 650 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: anybody that compan you know, why why aren't you vaccinated? 651 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: Is that? And the third Um, it's been that they're 652 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: just like, listen, you know, we respect your decision. UM, 653 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I would say the only thing that to a degree 654 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: that there's isolating. These were walking into a lot of 655 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: the restrictions that the NBA has put on vaccinated person 656 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: vaccinated players, like not being able to with your teammates 657 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: and not being able to leave you know, your hotel 658 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: room for anything other than you know, team activities. UM 659 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: that you know, it's gonna feel isolating once those things 660 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: going to effect, um for sure. But UM, there's a 661 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of people who feel that way and that are 662 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: losing their jobs and UM, you know, are having a 663 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: half tough conversations with their families and with their kids 664 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: on what they're deciding to do. So I can take 665 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, uncomfortability, you know, standing 666 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: for for other people, and I feel similar. You know, 667 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: I've announced that I'm not vaccinated, and the reason being 668 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: as I'm thirty six, young and healthy, I don't have 669 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: any underlying conditions, so I've at ninety chance of survival 670 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: against COVID. But you know, I also said that because 671 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to stand up for so many people that 672 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: don't have the same platform that I have. And I 673 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: just find it so sad to see so many hard 674 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: working people in America losing their jobs over this person 675 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: old decision that they have made. And when we have nurses, doctors, 676 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: firefighters who served this country at the height of COVID 677 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: and many incurred a lot of them had COVID as 678 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: a result of being out there and not being able 679 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: to stay home with the laptop class, and now we're 680 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: asking to subject their bodies again to a level of 681 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: risk with the vaccine, and it's just it's so wrong 682 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and also listens to act like there 683 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: isn't you know, reasonable risk um for for things that 684 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: we're going on. We know that other countries um for 685 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: for their reasons have suspended the Maderna vaccine and the 686 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: JJ vaccine because they found myocarditis and parachroditis and young men, 687 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, young women have experienced blood class and in 688 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: different rates. Um. You know, I understand that those things 689 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, have been rare to a degree. But at 690 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: the same time, if there is going to be risk 691 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: with taking this vaccine, there should be choice and so 692 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, where there's where there's risk, there should be choice. 693 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: And so it's it's not something that that's perfect, um. 694 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: And there have been people who have been pressure than 695 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: to take in it and then now, um, you know, 696 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: either because they wanted to give back to the regular 697 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: vibe where they wanted to keep their job, who are 698 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: now suffering from adverse effects. Yeah, I mean we've seen 699 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: it and your twenty four I believe, and so you 700 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: are right in that heightened risk of myocarditis and the 701 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: hard inflammation. It's thirty and under mostly for for men. 702 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: But we're saying, as you mentioned, countries like Sweden pause 703 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: the Maderna vaccine for thirty and under. I think for 704 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: for men specifically, but that might not be at have 705 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: to double check that. But anyways, for thirty and under, 706 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, over those concerns. But you know, of course 707 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: none of that seems to to get and taken into 708 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: account here. It just seems like, you know, get the 709 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: vaccine or else is the mentality without any context or 710 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: nuance which is always missing from the conversation. Uh, you know, 711 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to add about that that you know, 712 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: I know that Kyrie Irving has stand has been standing 713 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: strong against it as well. I imagine he's getting an 714 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: enormous amount of pressure, but you know also a lot 715 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: of people standing out in support of him, which we 716 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: we just saw recently. Yeah, I think Kyrie is doing 717 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: is is extremely courageous. I'm not in the same position. 718 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's him because I'm still able to play 719 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: because of the you know, the city that that I 720 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: belonged to. So for him to to to take it 721 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: a step further and forego you know, playing and forego money, um, 722 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: in order to stand on what he believes and just 723 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: to give a voice to the voiceless, it's it's extremely commendable, UM, 724 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: and I have a great deal of respect for him. 725 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: For that, and um, you know he's strong, you know, 726 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: he's not somebody that's not used to criticism or what 727 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: people have to say. UM. And I think I think 728 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: the last thing that I would enter that just just 729 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: for the people who you know, to to me have 730 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: been you know, weaponized to a degree to to to 731 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: beat people up or um uh you know, be be 732 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: so upset or so pressuring to people who have decided 733 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: not to get the vaccine for their reasons or even 734 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: if it's just to you know, hold onto the freedoms 735 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: that we have in this country. What sucks about that 736 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: is that right, it's just right now, it's just something 737 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: that they want, but that they agree with. Um. But 738 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: in order it's standing in this is not just standing 739 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: for the people who unvaccinated, but it's standing for the 740 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: people who are vaccinated as well. UM, for the future 741 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, this is just something that you want. 742 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: What happens when it's something that you don't want. Um. 743 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: And we've already taken a step to to to to 744 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: to keep our jobs and to keep things in place 745 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: and keep things in order as the way other people 746 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: see fits, or conditioned ourselves to say yes. If we 747 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: condition ourselves to um to just go with the flow 748 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: and so um, you know, just for those people who 749 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: have you know, taking the steps to you know, want 750 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: everybody to get Actually, I will say there is real 751 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: risk and people do have, you know, real reasons why 752 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: they decided not to and uh, you know what what 753 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: sucks is if it then comes down to a point 754 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: where it is something that you don't want, there won't 755 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: be anybody to stand with you because you were attacking 756 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: the people who are standing for themselves. Take a quick 757 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: commercial break and then back with Jonathan Isaac on the 758 00:35:49,600 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: other side. Well, and you and Tire are in the 759 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: age group twenty nine, So you guys have had ninety 760 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: nine point ninety seven and at ninety nine point nine 761 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: eight six percentage uh survival rate of COVID because you 762 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: guys are so young, So I I think that you 763 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: know the point you're making is, Look, if anyone wants 764 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine, that's totally up to you. But 765 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: your risk is a young and healthy man who has 766 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: a you know, near a percent chance of survival against 767 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: COVID is gonna look dramatic, dramatically different than you know, 768 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: someone who's eighty who's listening to this show, who might 769 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: have underlying conditions, who's is going to have a much 770 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: higher risk of COVID and less of a risk, you know, 771 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: more of a risk from COVID than they would the vaccine, 772 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: and so therefore the vaccine might make sense for them. 773 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: But you know, again, that's what sort of gets lost 774 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: in all these conversations that the media has about it, 775 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: and and if you've have that frustration with the media 776 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: as well, just sort of this miscarriage of information, this 777 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: distortion of some of the things you've said, this distortion 778 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: of the things that we see. People like Joe Rogan 779 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: has said, why why do you think there's that desire 780 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: to sort of distort people's perspect active or or some 781 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: of the things that you know folks have said about this. 782 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think part of it has to do with, 783 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's politics. It's it's the left 784 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: verse the right, and um, you know a lot of 785 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: I think the American people that have been caught in 786 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: this war um that's going on above their heads of 787 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: right and left and people who you know want to 788 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: one side, wants to show everything that's positive about what's 789 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: going on, and distract from anything that's negative, and the 790 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: other side wants to amplify everything that's negative and distract 791 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: from anything that's positive. And what it does is it 792 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: it messes up the American people who are who are 793 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: trying to decide on what to what to do that's 794 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: the best for them and their families, and they don't 795 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: have real information on what people are really saying about 796 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: what's going on. Um. And so even even some of 797 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that are just coming out now about the 798 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: whole you know, Wuhan and the NIH about gaining function 799 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: and all these different things. So it's it's it sucks. 800 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: It sucks that we that we're in this position. Um. 801 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: But for me that it came to life for me 802 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: when when when it happened to me with the Rolling 803 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 1: Stone article where I felt like I laid my points 804 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: out exactly as I did when I went to the 805 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: podium you know that Monday, and my my words were 806 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: completely misconstruted, and I was like, why does that need 807 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: to happen if it's really about public health and protecting people, um. 808 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: And so to me it shows that that's not completely 809 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: what it's about. One of the time, and there is 810 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: and at work in terms of wanting people to move 811 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: in a certain direction and punishing anyone who doesn't want 812 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: to move in that direction. And so it's unfortunate, but 813 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that there are people who are speaking up 814 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: and and and uncovering some of the lives and um, 815 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, trying to do the best to give people 816 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: a fighting chance to make a real decision for themselves. 817 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: When you had spoken at the press conference with me, 818 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was probably one of the more well 819 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: reasoned responses I've heard anyone give to all of the 820 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: So kudos to you. It's just incredibly well laid out 821 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: and thought out. So just to appreciative for appreciative of 822 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: people like you, who can you know, articulate that in 823 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: such a well reasoned way when so many seemed to 824 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: to not be able to do that. I mean, even 825 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: people try to turn politics on me and say, oh, well, 826 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: you know you're a Republican President Trump got vaccinated. Well 827 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: that's great. He's seventy five years old, you know, so 828 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: like his risk is entirely different than mine. And so 829 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: it's like that. That's what I think it's lost in 830 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: all of this is just because you've made the decision 831 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: for yourself that vaccine or the vaccination you know, doesn't 832 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: make sense for you in your own risk benefit analysis. 833 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: That's not the same for you know, someone who's seventy 834 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: five or older. So it's just I find it very frustrating, uh, 835 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: in the age that we live in where there's just 836 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: no desire to to get to the truth or to 837 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: have an honest conversation unfortunately on so many platforms. But 838 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully folks like you going out there and 839 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, speaking so well, you know, such a such 840 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: a way that people can't argue with it helps to 841 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: to move that needle. Yeah, And I don't I don't. 842 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: I don't blame those people because I feel like I 843 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: have an understanding of what's going on, you know, above them, 844 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: and so like I was talking about the people who 845 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: who have been pressuring people or or or like you 846 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: were saying, oh, you know, President Trump got it and 847 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to get it? Um, and that 848 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: there's no nu once in the conversation, and has to 849 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: do with I was talking about the political war that's 850 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: going on above those people's heads, and people are being 851 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: influenced on both sides. You know, one side is being 852 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, influenced in in any degree of you know, 853 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe not take the vaccine or just you know, 854 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: be be upset or whatever. And then the other side 855 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: is saying, you know, you need the vaccine at all costs, 856 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: and so um, you know, I don't think that necessarily 857 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: people are to blame, but the systems and the way 858 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: that we are going about um enacting them, uh, you know, 859 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 1: are the issue. But you know, even beyond all this, 860 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: and there just seems to be a level of virtual 861 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: in the country, like extending beyond politics, extending beyond you know, 862 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: vaccine stuff to all of this, is there a bigger 863 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: like war going on in the country, Like is there 864 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: a spiritual war going on right now in the nation. 865 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: It just seems like it's so much bigger than all 866 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: this other stuff. That's the war that I would put 867 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: above the politics that you have. You have the people 868 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: at the bottom, you have the political world, people wanted 869 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: to be empowered, people want to be get empowered, wanting 870 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: to key power. And then you have the ultimate you 871 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: know war that is against you know, good and evil um. 872 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: And then you have the you have the powers of darkness. 873 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: And the Bible says in the Ehesian six. It says 874 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: we battle not against flesh and blood, but against powers 875 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: and and and darkness and high places, Um, principalities and 876 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: darkness and high places. And so there absolutely is a 877 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: war that we can't see going on that's influencing the victoriolity, 878 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: even influencing some of the stuff that you were talking 879 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 1: about with therapy and people committing suicide and people feeling 880 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: like there's no hope. Um. I think there's there's absolutely 881 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: an agenda from Hell for those things too, to to 882 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: to to to thrive, and for division and for divisiveness 883 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: and all the things that we seem to thrive. Um. 884 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we know that 885 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: evil does not defeat good. And at the end of 886 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: the day, if we strive to to keep our faith 887 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: in God, to to to to pray and ask God 888 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: to continue to cover us and protect this country from 889 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: what's trying to take over it, you know, an the end, 890 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: it will prevail. You know, any other words you want 891 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: to leave us with before we go, I would say, 892 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: there's hoping Christ. I would say there's hoping Christ. When 893 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: you're looking around and you're seeing that you're seeing all 894 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: the things that we see, you see the political world, 895 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: you see the right verst to let you see people, 896 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: um with so much vitriol internal. Your trust and your 897 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: faith has to be in someone greater than you. Jesus 898 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: words himself, he said, be of good cheer, um when 899 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: you go through trials and tribulations in the world, because 900 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: I have overcome the world, and so that's where my 901 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: faith lies. I know that at the end of the day, 902 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: God has me vaccine and no vaccine um, uh, government 903 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: and no government legislation or no legislation. I'm gonna be 904 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: okay because my trust isn't the one who has the 905 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: world in the very palm of his hands. And UM, 906 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: you know I I've experienced that in my own life 907 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: countless times of Him being there for me and protecting me. Um, 908 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, from things that I couldn't see or uh 909 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: didn't know what's coming. And so my faith is going 910 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: to continue to be there. I'm gonna try try my 911 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: best to continue to strengthen it. It doesn't mean that 912 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: it's easy, because it's not. Um. It's hard to go 913 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: against the grain, it's hard to stand for what you 914 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: believe in. But every single time and absolutely is worth it. UM. 915 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: And so you know, I would say thank you to 916 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: everybody who's standing not only for freedom but for christ 917 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: Um and just continue to and this is a this 918 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: is a long fight, but it's a fight that that 919 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna win in the end. Jesus said that he 920 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: will build his church at the end of the day, 921 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: the gates of hell will not prevail. And one other 922 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: thing that I'm working on right now, Lisa is UH 923 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: as a brand. UM as a brand called United and 924 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: I'm working on it as as a shoe and imperil branding. 925 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: And my vision for it is to give people an 926 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: outlet for exactly what I was talking about. You know, 927 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: as our country continues to movement the way that it moves, 928 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: we need things that are going to remind us about 929 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: who we are in christ Um and to give us 930 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: the foundations and not only where things that look great, 931 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: but at the same time have the long line with 932 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: our hearts um and what it is that well that 933 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: we believe. And so I'm working on that as I'm 934 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: working on the book, and hopefully that would be ready 935 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: soon as well. Awesome, Well, please keep us updated on 936 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: where folks can find that UH and also find your 937 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: book as well when it's out. Yeah, they could just 938 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: follow me on Instagram. I believe it's John Isaac underscores 939 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: your one you know for all the updates. UM. I 940 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: think I think this book is really going to be 941 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: able to encourage people, UM and give people a real 942 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: life snapshot of why your faith wants to be in Christ, 943 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: how God heals us and makes us better through relationship 944 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: with him, UM, and ultimately why standing on God's work 945 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: is worth it. Jonathan Isaac, It's been such an honor. 946 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: I truly have a tremendous amount of respect for you. 947 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: It is not easy and to say today's society to 948 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: stand strong in your convictions, and you do that, uh 949 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: in such a bold way, and so I just have 950 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: a deep amount of respect for you. So thanks so 951 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: much for joining the show. Appreciate you so much for 952 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: having well. Thanks Jonathan Isaac again for an incredible interview, 953 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: and thank you guys at home for listening. If you 954 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: enjoy today's show, please leave us a review and rate 955 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: us five stars on Apple Podcast. 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