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Speaker 1: that's why for their third wedding anniversary, Brook and her

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Speaker 2: If you know what, I get your waiters on, Honey,

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Speaker 2: it looks like there's a clog.

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Speaker 1: And that's how her son Alder came to be. Don't

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Speaker 3: The tree roots that were causing the problems.

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Speaker 1: Our listeners. Jeremy says he came up with a pretty

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Speaker 1: done before. And I'm wondering, Jeremy, was raw sewage involved

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Speaker 4: Maybe not as romantic as all that.

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Speaker 3: Get there someday.

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Speaker 1: To a spy. But tell us about the lady that

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Speaker 4: Sure, her name's Tessa. We met through a dating app,

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Speaker 2: Now, how long did you guys like text or DM

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Speaker 4: We were like talking for about like three to four weeks.

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Speaker 4: Wore on app. I've been single for a little bit

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Speaker 4: and we really connected over true crime podcasts. I'm really

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Speaker 1: Okay, so not so much like raw sewage as like

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you both bonded over true crime?

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Speaker 3: How do you make a date out of that?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna listen to a podcast together?

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Speaker 4: Actually that's where this is going. So you know, since

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Speaker 4: we're both into true crime, I have this idea of like,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. You know, real trials

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Speaker 1: Alexis just first thought. Guy wants to take you to

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Am I into it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was actually really boring?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how long did you guys stay?

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Speaker 4: We sat in on one trial and it wasn't like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're on a first date talking about relationships

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Speaker 3: Let's just go with drinks. Maybe you guys should just

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Wow, what a great idea for a first date.

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Speaker 3: That's why they didn't kiss.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, where's that suggestion in Cosmo Magazine's Hot

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Speaker 5: It's probably there, probably because that's really where Jeremy took

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Speaker 1: he's just really hoping for a redo num right, Jeremy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right, I'm hoping for I don't think

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Speaker 1: Possibly she fell in love with the defendant, those bad boys.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hey is this Tessa? Yes, Tessa? What's up? My name

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Speaker 1: is jeff from a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 6: had a trial up on the third floor. I know

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Speaker 1: Scammer. We didn't get that detail when we talked to him.

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Speaker 3: Wow, And it is honest, but he's so casually dropped

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I guess like he kind of explained

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Speaker 6: He just was like, yeah, I know my way around

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he was innocent. So is it just that

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Speaker 6: Okay, you want to talk about history. So the first

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Speaker 6: I know this fun. I had to go to this trial.

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Speaker 3: For a different reason.

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Speaker 1: He's had to go to court multiple times.

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Speaker 6: God, because he was caught passing bad check and it's all.

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Speaker 3: For like, boy doesn't have a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: So is that something that turns you on or turns

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, so you've been to court twice

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Speaker 1: What what?

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Speaker 2: It's never good when the person's always wrongly accused, Like

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Speaker 3: Multiple over and over again.

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Speaker 2: At some points, the accusations were probably.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he's just in the wrong place at

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Speaker 6: I'm like, maybe there should be a podcast about him,

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Speaker 6: like we're doing it right now.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta tell you Jeremy's been there.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Tessa, there he is.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a hardened criminal.

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Speaker 4: I'm not breaking the law right now, I promise you that.

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Speaker 4: And as I said before, I had a pretty wild

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Speaker 4: in the past. And change man. Yeah, I am a

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Speaker 4: changed man. And I mean I was honest with you,

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Speaker 4: And I thought you might connect and be sympathetic because

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Speaker 6: That's a lot. That's a lot like how did you

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Speaker 6: I don't quite believe that you're fully changed. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it seems very judgmental of you right now.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I've never been arrested for anything, so I can't

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. Some people completely change around.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: A guy that was a convicted grand theft auto.

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Speaker 1: He had that and that was It's not something that

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it didn't divine who he was. He

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Speaker 3: He had a pretty good explanation for everything.

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Speaker 1: Are you still with him?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Weird? Why not the grand theft auto?

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Speaker 1: I mean there was some other Maybe you should practice

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Speaker 1: what you preach, Brooke.

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Speaker 3: I didn't break up with him because of his felony.

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Speaker 1: Overall, Tessa, it sounds to me like Jeremy is being

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Speaker 4: I'm literally broadcasting it on the radio now. Apparently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, anyone on the run would not go

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Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, but how do I know that? I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you approach every man is there's

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Speaker 6: Therefore, not every man a beating has committed a Ponzi

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Speaker 1: And in his defense, he was absolved of every crime

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Speaker 1: would like to give him the chance to prove just

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm never going to jump in here.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and pass myself. Oh he's

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Speaker 1: Bad boy jumping into saying I don't play by the

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Speaker 6: Thank you for declining me, because I was about to.

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to have to hurt your feelings, but

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Speaker 1: Look at that. A guy commits a few, several dozen

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Speaker 1: I guess dismissed.

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Speaker 3: We need a gavel.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a gavel. I have a tape dispenser

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Speaker 1: in here. So the court dismissed. That just broke the

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Speaker 1: tape dispenser. Look what you did, Jeremy. You broke my

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Speaker 1: tape dispens put his wanted poster on our wall to.

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Speaker 4: The tap.

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Speaker 1: Rook Jeffrey in the morning. You know, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think about what would have made that courtroom date even

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Speaker 1: worse than it already was. Is there anything worse than

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Speaker 1: admitting to all the times you've ever had to make

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're at the place where it happened,

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Speaker 1: For Yeah, I've been here many times. It brings back

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Speaker 3: Actually used the bathroom on the second floor much nicer.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if the guy at the metal detector was like,

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Speaker 1: oh hey, Bob, good to see you again. You forgot

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Speaker 1: these and handsy, some like iron knuckles, then it could

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Speaker 3: Iron knuckles. I think that's what you means.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, Ard Streets Brass doesn't do the trick on

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Speaker 1: this body. But I mean, other than that, I think

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say courtroom first date. Cross that one

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Speaker 1: off of your date list. Ideas, Yeah, if anyone else

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Speaker 1: is thinking about it, there, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 3: One guy that's like, dang it huge.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, whatever your first date is, whether

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Speaker 1: it was romantic or just super boring, we want to

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Speaker 1: help you out. You can always email the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: call that person who is in calling you back. And

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Speaker 1: check out all of our second day podcasts up online

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Speaker 4: And Jeffrey in the Morning