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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Pan.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,

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Speaker 2: pleasant game in with us. Her website is linked up

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Speaker 2: at Coast tocoast am dot com. But she'd also like

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Speaker 2: you to go to her Instagram, which Les has posted

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Speaker 2: at Coast tocoastam dot com as well. Do you practice witchcraft? Pleasant?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't do any any I will not

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Speaker 3: do curses or any.

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Speaker 4: Kind of.

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Speaker 2: You're a good witch.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I wish I had a bubble like Glinda exactly.

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Speaker 2: And ruby slippers.

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Speaker 4: I do have ruby slippers.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you really?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I made them a long time ago, like I made

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Speaker 3: them exactly like the Judy Garland ones.

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Speaker 2: Now, at what point in your life or career did

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Speaker 2: you start practicing witchcraft?

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Speaker 4: Well, when I.

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Speaker 3: Was when I was about twelve or thirteen, my best

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Speaker 3: friend Joan and I decided we were going to become witches.

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Speaker 3: And I ordered this book called Potions and Spells of Witchcraft,

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Speaker 3: and when it came it was it was like it

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Speaker 3: was like a witchcraft bible to me. It had all

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Speaker 3: these beautiful illustrations, and you know, we would try spells

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Speaker 3: out of that. We also used to try to astral

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Speaker 3: project all the time, but I think that was mostly

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Speaker 3: so we could go into David Bowie or Freddie Mercury's house.

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Speaker 3: This was like in nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever meet Freddie Mercury.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I really met him, but I

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Speaker 3: saw him up close in that blobby of the Beverly Hilton.

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Speaker 3: He was in play right after I moved to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: He was a great talent, wasn't he.

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Speaker 3: He was incredible. And then I never met David Bowie either.

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Speaker 3: But at the Mud Club, this underground sort of punk

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Speaker 3: rock disco in New York, yeah, he like there was

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Speaker 3: It was rumored all night he was going to come in,

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Speaker 3: and I knew that he had come in because all

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Speaker 3: these people started running out of the back room sort

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Speaker 3: of the vip room, crying, and that's like a you

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Speaker 3: know this this girl that I knew that was like

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Speaker 3: an insane Bowie freak. And so I went back there

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Speaker 3: because I had left my jacket back there and he

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Speaker 3: was sitting on it. But I was too shy to

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Speaker 3: ask him to get up. I mean, if that would

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Speaker 3: have been me a few years older, I would have

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Speaker 3: just like introduced my mother and said, hey, you're sitting

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Speaker 3: on my jacket. But I was dumb dumbfounded because David Bowie.

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Speaker 2: Him sign it or.

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Speaker 4: Something, right, I know, but you know what it was Bowie.

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Speaker 3: And I was hysterical. I know, we're trying not to

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Speaker 3: be hysterical pleasure.

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Speaker 2: What do you think manifestation is and how does that happen?

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Speaker 3: I think, well, manifestation is magic. Manifestation is witchcraft or

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Speaker 3: magic in the you know, in the traditional term, because

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Speaker 3: there is there's nothing stronger than the power of will,

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Speaker 3: and it comes from inside you. Like we can use candles,

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Speaker 3: we can use oils and crystals and all of those things,

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Speaker 3: but that's just the focus our will on something that

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Speaker 3: the way I believe it. I use all those things.

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Speaker 3: I love those things. It's great to stare into a

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Speaker 3: candle and do an actual spell. But I've had so

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Speaker 3: many other things manifest just because I said something out

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Speaker 3: loud and you know, or I wrote it down a

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Speaker 3: million times and then I worked towards it, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I know that that manifestation, it's that's like the

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Speaker 3: magician card in Teri. It's it's it's your will, it's

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Speaker 3: your ability to speak something into reality.

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Speaker 2: What would you recommend to people who want to learn

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Speaker 2: how to manifest things in their lives.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a there's a lot of little things that

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Speaker 3: I would do. One is to make it concrete, like

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Speaker 4: You can make a.

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Speaker 3: Candle, especially for that. Madam Tamida, who's a really good

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Speaker 3: But I have found that writing writing things down makes

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Speaker 3: it concrete. And you can also you can write things

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Speaker 3: or something. On the new moon, because that's always a

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Speaker 3: good time to start new things. But you really have

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Speaker 3: to learn how to focus your will on something. And

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Speaker 3: And that that happens to me and to other people

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Speaker 2: Things good or man.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean manifestation. If you want to manifest something

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Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't manifest anything bad. I want

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Speaker 3: to manifest nice things for people, for my you know,

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Speaker 3: how there's like group group rituals like there was there

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Speaker 3: was group rituals amongst witches.

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Speaker 4: To to clear to clear the world of disease during

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Speaker 3: A lot of witches at this this store that I

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Speaker 4: Called the Green Men. My friend and.

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Speaker 3: Co producer of my Witch for Leque show, which we

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Speaker 3: can go into later, shan A Lei, Lani Her and

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Speaker 3: it at the same time to rid the world of disease,

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Speaker 3: you know, and so things like that, like if you're

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Speaker 3: like that turns it into a curse, you know, like

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Speaker 3: if you if you wish something bad upon someone, So

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Speaker 3: I only go for the good things. And also if

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Speaker 3: you're trying to manifest something, it will never hurt to

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Speaker 3: to sort of pay for it magically, to give coin,

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Speaker 3: that will help. It's sort of like like like your

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Speaker 3: your ticket to better manifestation.

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Speaker 2: What about dreams and manifesting, Oh.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, that that has happened to me.

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Speaker 4: All the time.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I'll tell I'll tell you that the main dreams

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Speaker 3: So the first time that I ever remember it really

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Speaker 3: like an old wild West saloon girl. Yeah, and a

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Speaker 3: It sounded like Kitty Wells or Patsy KWin meets the Ramones,

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm going to side a band. And she said,

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Speaker 3: And I said, really indignantly, well, if I can get

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Speaker 3: told me that, like a few months ago. But you know,

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Speaker 3: you have to really work at it. And it was

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Speaker 3: the same with the band. So the first thing I

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Speaker 3: thought that I needed to do was have a name

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Speaker 3: I wanted an all girl band. It would be like

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Speaker 3: the Sirens in ancient Greece and drive men to death

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Speaker 3: and destruction, but in a good way, in a rock

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Speaker 4: And so then I thought I could start. This was in.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty three and it was hard to find women

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Speaker 3: that the first thing that I used to do would

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Speaker 3: be get a great female drummer. But the only one

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Speaker 3: hate was mutual because we always saw each other at

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Speaker 3: a bouncer because we were rowdy, you know, and you

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Speaker 3: were rowdy. Oh my goodness, George, you have no idea.

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Speaker 2: That'll be a different show, yes, different, So.

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Speaker 4: It was a different show for quite a few years. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: So I hated this girl, but I got her phone

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Speaker 4: And I was like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: And she said, in a really mean voice, folding laundry?

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Speaker 3: And I said, oh, would you like to start a

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Speaker 3: And I started telling her about my ideas for the

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Speaker 3: and then we became best friends. And so about two

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Speaker 3: craziest thing I could think of. So anyway, the band

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Speaker 3: We toured all over North America. We had songs and

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Speaker 3: movie soundtracks. Yeah, so that was the first manifestation, and

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Speaker 3: then the second one came about. It came about twelve.

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Speaker 4: Years, I guess.

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Speaker 3: After that one, I thought that I needed to belly dance.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea why, no one and my family

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Speaker 2: Lebanese I know all about belly dancing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know you do.

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Speaker 2: Not that I belly dance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you could if you wanted than that.

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Speaker 4: I would pay to see that.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so I just kept I was calling studios

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Speaker 2: Didn't you?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, yeah, because this was an obsession that.

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Speaker 4: That knew no bounce.

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Speaker 3: in Turkey, and I still had it in my wallet

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Speaker 3: as an adult, as someone in their late my niece.

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Speaker 3: That was that was That was when this happened. So

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Speaker 3: I kept trying to, you know, like, how am I

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Speaker 3: and they said, we have a proposition for you. And

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Speaker 3: I just got accepted into a master's program that I

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Speaker 3: thought I wasn't going to be accepted into. But we

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Speaker 3: had a trip book to Greece. If I pay for

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Speaker 3: could do that in those days, they were pay per tickets.

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Speaker 3: I give you my plane ticket where you go with her?

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Speaker 3: Can you pay your your expenses? And I said yes.

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Speaker 3: And then I turned to her girlfriend and said, DEBI

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Speaker 4: And then.

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Speaker 2: You manifested these things.

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Speaker 4: Didn't you completely?

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Speaker 3: And then also I manifested a place to stay in Egypt.

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Speaker 3: And that's another sinker in the city. I was letting

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Speaker 3: because it had been broken into and I wanted him

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Speaker 3: moved to Cairo to work for Swiss Air and he said,

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Speaker 3: And then when he saw the place that we were

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Speaker 2: My late father was born there. We're not Egyptian. But

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Speaker 2: that's where he was born.

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Speaker 4: Oh, in Cairo, yep.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty three, A long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Have you have you been there? Drest Nope, never have,

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Speaker 3: But it's magical.

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Speaker 4: It's magical.

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Speaker 3: I've been there several several times. So anyway, I stayed,

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Speaker 3: I stayed in Kiro. My friend went home and I

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Speaker 3: stayed there. And when I came home, i'd been seeing

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Speaker 3: down throughs every night, taking lessons, and I I came

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Speaker 3: who starts a dance career with no training when they're thirty.

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Speaker 3: That's what I did. And then I just worked and

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Speaker 3: touring all over the world and to teach and perform

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Speaker 3: belly dance. It still blows my mind every time, every

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Speaker 3: time that I was about to go on stage, I

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Speaker 3: would just think the universe because it was so unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Where does synchronicity play a role in your life?

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Speaker 3: It's huge, it's all, it's all the time. I have

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Speaker 3: to I'll even tell you this, Okay. So the night

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Speaker 3: before Lisa called me, I was listening to Coast to

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Speaker 3: Coast and then I just I just set out loud,

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Speaker 3: I need to be on Coast to Coast And then

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Speaker 3: Lisa Ryan called me the next.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Executive producer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I asked her, it was I.

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Speaker 2: She called you, Yes, she called.

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Speaker 3: She called me for such a she she called me

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Speaker 3: and the voice Smith had said she'd been cleaning out

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Speaker 3: her inbox and she saw a time that was ten

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Speaker 3: years ago when we had spoken. But wow, and I

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Speaker 3: I called her back and yeah, it was crazy.

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