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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back with our number two of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. I am Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 2: he is v Matt Williamson and Matt it is time

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Speaker 2: for the Fantasy Football Focus. Let's look at the top

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Speaker 2: performers all right from Week three. Once again only four

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Speaker 2: three hundred yard quarterbacks, and the top two guys on

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Speaker 2: here both lost their games. Dak Prescott threw for three

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Speaker 2: seventy nine and two touchdowns against the Ravens. They lose

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Speaker 2: that game twenty eight to twenty five. Total comeback mode. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams kind of the same thing, very much same

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Speaker 2: thirty three of fifty two for three hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: three yards. Then you had Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 3: That was against the Colt too. The upcoming upound of

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Speaker 3: coming up home with the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Andy Dalton was twenty six or thirty seven for three

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Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen yard and three touchdown passes. And the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, who quite frankly after watching him weeks two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago against the Chargers. I thought, we're maybe the

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Speaker 2: worst team I'd ever seen. I thought so too. They

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Speaker 2: went they go out and beat the Raiders. It's not

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Speaker 2: just one guy.

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Speaker 3: But even if you watch that Chargers game or their

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Speaker 3: Week one game, the o line that they paid so

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Speaker 3: much money for was blocking people.

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Speaker 2: Deontae still knows how to get open. Yeah. Quarterback was

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Speaker 2: that bad. It was that bad. That's why that position

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Speaker 2: gets paid so much money. Thought be good or not? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he was. He was, He was good. He was

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Speaker 2: he was good enough.

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Speaker 3: I also think the Raiders d is particularly great either,

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Speaker 3: But that was a shocker of all shockers.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of surprising that they went into Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: and did that. The Ravens had lost to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: The league is so topsy turvy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the Raiders can't run the ball at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, well we'll talk about some of that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know that I'd run and pick

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Speaker 3: up Dalton off the wave.

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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, plumbing to do livery week. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 2: was promising. I think Deontay is a lot more valuable now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, or maybe you want to get Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Brooks or you know, somebody like that or Chub Babbard.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts twenty nine of thirty eight for three to eleven,

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Speaker 2: didn't throw a touchdown pass so one interception, four sacks

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Speaker 2: in that game. They got out in Markley got it,

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Speaker 2: got it, Barkley over and over and over. Yeah. Brock

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Speaker 2: Perty just missed twenty two to thirty for two ninety

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Speaker 2: two and three touchdowns. Again, So three of the top

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Speaker 2: five passers this week lost their games.

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Speaker 3: Game Party played well, Hurts played well, you know, they

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Speaker 3: weren't the reasons they lost, but hard to control the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other end of this, we had Jacoby

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Speaker 2: Brissett through for ninety eight yards. That was loss. Aidan

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Speaker 2: O'Connell came in for the Raiders nine to twelve for

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Speaker 2: eighty two yards and a touchdown. They might be making

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Speaker 2: a change there for I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know what's going on with that. I think their

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Speaker 3: season is spiraling in a very rapid manner. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it DeVante Adams on the trade block time? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think that's not crazy. Or send Minshew to Miami

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Speaker 3: get something for him while.

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Speaker 2: You can you know what I mean? I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's there's some bad stuff. I saw Pierce after the

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Speaker 2: game said, Hey, we had some guys make some business

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Speaker 2: decisions today, and moving forward, we may make some business

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Speaker 2: decisions as well.

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Speaker 3: The way they're structured and the type of coach he is,

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Speaker 3: that can't happen, right, I can't.

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Speaker 2: And he's been around the game long enough to understand

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Speaker 2: as a former pro player himself, if a guy's not

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Speaker 2: you're just going out there going through the motions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's contagious, and then losing becomes contagious and you

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Speaker 3: got to nip that in the button.

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Speaker 2: Actually think he's a pretty good coach. I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think he has a pretty good understanding of how

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Speaker 3: I think he relates the players extremely well and is

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's got the right coordinators and

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Speaker 2: those kinds of things, But I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: the CEO. Yeah, some of the top quarterbacks, some of

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Speaker 2: the guys that were drafted early. CJ Stroud two fifteen,

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Speaker 2: one touchdown, two interceptions. He didn't even finished that game. No,

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is doing that to everybody right now. Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray had two oh seven in a touchdown with an interception.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff's another one one ninety nine and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: That was all about the run game. Yeah, Deshaun Watson, Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's bad. He They're in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Seven or eight sacks. I mean they got Will's back

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh good, we finally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a turnstile and then they lost lineman

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Speaker 3: throughout the game. They couldn't block at all, and he's

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Speaker 3: not good enough to get out.

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Speaker 2: You saw that the one guard is out for the

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Speaker 2: next four weeks. Yeah. I think it's Teller, right Tyler?

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Speaker 3: Yeahh I mean I think it's overrated, but yeah, but

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Speaker 3: he's a he's a starter none.

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Speaker 2: Lest on a team that doesn't have any right now.

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Speaker 3: And they they could use Nick Chubb so bad, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the normal version of him. They don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you saw that. But they kick off

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Speaker 3: the Giants. The Giants fumble the opening kickoff. They throw

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Speaker 3: a quick touchdown to Cooper and then nothing nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually made Lake Arrets hurt. They made Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones look pretty good. He threw for two thirty six

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Speaker 2: and two touchdowns. Lamartin neighbors is pretty good. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: through fifteen passes in that game yesterday, he was twelve

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Speaker 3: Dallas's run defense stinks. I give Harbaugh a lot of

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Speaker 3: credit for, Oh, let's not use Henry as a part

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Speaker 3: time player. If we're gonna invest in Henry, give him

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Speaker 3: the ball over and over and over. And he was

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Speaker 3: getting to the second level consistently with big stiff arms,

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Speaker 3: throwing safeties around like he used to in Tennessee. But

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Speaker 3: subsequently Mark Andrews catches zero balls.

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Speaker 2: Was on the field for like fifteen plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there must there must be an injury with him.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was only out there when they're throwing the ball.

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Speaker 2: If they're running the football, he wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: out there. Didn't even block anybody side note.

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Speaker 3: I mean they they did quickly get into run the

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Speaker 3: clockout mode, and it was working well, but they almost

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Speaker 3: lost it.

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Speaker 2: They almost got into it too quickly, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean their pension for not putting teams away in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter is.

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Speaker 2: It almost bit him again. Yeah, it was close. We

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Speaker 2: had six one hundred yard rushers, by the way, Sam

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Speaker 2: Darnold four touchdown passes again, yes, today, Yeah, he's doing

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Speaker 2: all right. Yeah, Derek's fantasy relevant. Yeah. Derrick Henry twenty

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Speaker 2: five carries one hundred and fifty one yards two touchdowns. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley seventeen for one forty seven and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: These guys were both kind of late first right second

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Speaker 3: I underestimated Barkley for fantasy.

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Speaker 2: He's been really good, been really good. Chewba Hubbard twenty

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Speaker 2: one for one to fourteen. Yeah, A good change of

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Speaker 2: quarterback makes a little bit of a difference. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 2: who the Steelers will see this week, twenty three for

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Speaker 2: one to ten and two touchdowns. So just a Richardson

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Speaker 2: had completed less than fifty percent of his passes again

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Speaker 3: He's forty nine percent passer for the year for the

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Speaker 3: year and thirty three percent passer twelve or further yards

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Speaker 3: downfield thirty three. So to their credit, we'll talk a

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Speaker 3: lot of colts, but I started digging in. They wisely

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Speaker 3: took a lot off Richardson's plate and put it on

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Speaker 3: Taylor's plate. Yeah, who looks like you're paying him the money.

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Speaker 3: He's a great back. That's gonna be the whole key

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Speaker 3: to that game. It stopped stopping Taylor to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. David Montgomery twenty three for one oh five in

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Speaker 2: a touchdown both their backs. Yeah, Aaron Jones nineteen for

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Speaker 2: one oh two. Zach Sharbonay just missed eighteen for ninety

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Speaker 2: one and two touchdowns against Miami. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean with Walker out, he's the whole, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Karen Williams twenty four for eighty nine and two

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Speaker 3: And he's kind of the reason they came back in

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Speaker 3: that game. Yeah, they just couple leaning on him, leaning

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Speaker 3: on him, they played pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson had fourteen for eighty seven of the touchdown

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Speaker 2: in that game. So even though he didn't throw the

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Speaker 2: as many times as he threw it.

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Speaker 3: Not super uncom for him. But Ravens are finding their way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There was Josh Jacobs fourteen for forty three in

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Speaker 2: that win over the Titans. It's kind of surprising. Although

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Speaker 2: Tennessee is typically pretty hard to run against. They are,

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Speaker 2: but Willis had some made some plays. Willis made some plays.

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Speaker 2: He had seventy three rushing yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm not saying he's gonna be in the

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Speaker 3: same level as like Darnold and Fields, but go from

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Speaker 2: It helps, It helps, And it was he was going

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Speaker 2: from an offense in Tennessee that he to a team

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Speaker 2: and drafted for. Yeah, yeah, new one, but it's the

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Speaker 2: same offense. Effectively, Little Floor was the offensive coordinator in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure much like the Steerers with Fields. They looked

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Speaker 3: at him like, I get him for a seventh round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've seen things with him.

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Speaker 2: We can develop and he knows the offense. It's not

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Speaker 2: going to be that big of a you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a shrewd move. Absolutely. Bucky Irving at nine for seventy

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Speaker 2: interested in Bucky Irving Tampa?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was getting confused with the Philly guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can't run the ball. They can't run the ball

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Speaker 3: at all. They got dominated the line of scrimmage by

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Speaker 3: the way. That Denver front looked like we thought it could. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and the Steelers handled it much better than the Bucks.

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Speaker 3: So some Rashaw White things I saw on today is Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's catching a lot of passes. Every one of

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Speaker 3: them's at the line of scrimmage, are behind. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get benched. So yes, I'm very interesting bucket.

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Speaker 2: I think Bucky Irving's a guy that should be picked

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Speaker 2: up in all leagues.

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Speaker 3: If he's in the waiver wire, I would put a

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Speaker 3: fair amount on him.

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Speaker 2: He might not be out there. Carson Steele had a

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Speaker 2: good game seventeen for seventy two. He's the banger. He

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Speaker 2: Ryan's gonna be the receiver. Yeah, he's probably already been

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Speaker 2: picked up. How about Tyler Battie with Denver nine for

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Speaker 2: seventy I.

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Speaker 3: Think he's taking over the starting job. I don't know

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Speaker 3: a ton about him, but I was listening to a

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Speaker 3: Football Guys podcast. See so LAMI does what we do

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Speaker 3: for the Denver He's like, Batty's their best guy. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna take us over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Braylan Allen look good. Braylen Allen should not be

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Speaker 2: on the waiver wire. He was in our league. I

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Speaker 3: I wish he was like a cowboy, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: like a starter or some places. He exactly good.

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Speaker 2: Not that any only six one hundred yard games this

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Speaker 3: Everyone thought it'd be Ayuk, everyone has I mean, when

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Speaker 2: Listen to the who the These are the These are

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Speaker 2: Roma Dounzier, Rashi Rice, and DK Metcalf. The only two

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Speaker 2: He's exceeded my expectations. This year. Cole Comet had ten

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Speaker 2: The entire offensive line got thrown to the ground, to

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Speaker 3: see things like that, Well, maybe we could move Adams,

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe you keep Adams and again you.

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Speaker 3: Move Myers or Yeah, they're gonna throw Bowers a ton

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Speaker 3: of balls and the other tight ends on the field

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Ferguson came back six for ninety five. Calvin

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Speaker 2: Austin was promising four for ninety five in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: No, that's what I dislike him. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah two two at Well had four for ninety three,

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Speaker 3: But that Well and Robinson there are rosterable. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: one second. Dobbs has led that team in routes every

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Speaker 2: Hate him.

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Speaker 3: I I'm hard on him, but there he's available.

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Speaker 2: You gotta he's got to be in leagues because he

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Speaker 2: In that game he finished with the eight for sixty six.

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Speaker 2: How about Michael Wilson, He had what do you do?

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Speaker 2: Like the eight part. Yeah, eight's good. Yeah, that's a good,

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Speaker 3: I liked him in the preseason, liked him coming out

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Speaker 2: Uh. Our contest this week, Well, we didn't really know you.

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Speaker 2: Acres hurt us bad. Yeah, Acres was not good. Picked

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Speaker 2: A lave was a good call, Yeah, lave twenty point

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Speaker 2: thirty five Pickens. I didn't think was the bad was

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Speaker 2: He had seven targets.

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Speaker 3: I know we're on a Steeler network, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: if I was doing DFS, I would invest in him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's gonna be I mean.

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Speaker 3: Right, he may be cheaper this week. He didn't blow up.

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Speaker 2: Rock Bowers didn't do it for us. This week. He

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Speaker 2: So it's a bad week, but we weren't alone with

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt at this point, as you

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show, the AFC has only three

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Speaker 2: unbeatens at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, record aside, are there seven deserved playoff teams in

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Speaker 2: Well, if the playoffs started today, it would be Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: as the number one seed, number one based on strength

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Speaker 2: of victory at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, Kansas City must be two.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo right now at two and oh, they still get

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I forgot. There's four teams in that.

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Speaker 2: Kansas City at three and oh, Houston would win the South.

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Speaker 2: They would be the four seed.

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Speaker 3: Any concerned with them after kind of laying an.

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Speaker 2: Egg wasn't pretty. It wasn't their best day.

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Speaker 3: They had a lot of mistakes, a lot of penalties,

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Speaker 2: The Jets will be the five seed, the Chargers the

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Speaker 2: of victory? When's the tiebreaker over Indianapolis and Baltimore based

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00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: on win percentage in conference games? And they beat Baltimore

436
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: head to head? Division win or division tiebreaker was initially

437
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: he used to eliminate New England and I think that's

438
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 2: all the tie breaks. Oh and the division tiebreaker initially

439
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: used to eliminate Cleveland.

440
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: Who'd you say was that seventh seed right now?

441
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: The Raiders? Raiders? Yeah, the Chargers as the six. The

442
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Chargers of the six win Miami, New England, Denver, Indianapolis,

443
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore in Cleveland all with one victory. Cincinnati can get

444
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: there tonight.

445
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Baltimore. The only teams I think are good from

446
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: that list, you know that are one win or low? Yeah,

447
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 3: or and include the Chargers. To be honest with you, I.

448
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: Don't think the Chargers. I mean those injuries. We're talking

449
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: six weeks from now, Yeah, the Chargers aren't in on

450
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: that list.

451
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: I was about to say the similar thing. I don't

452
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: know how bad both of Herbert.

453
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: And they play Kansas City this week.

454
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: They really but we both thought they were somewhat overrated

455
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: coming into the game and.

456
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 2: Put a lot out of what they had. So they

457
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: play the Chiefs at home this week.

458
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: I can't imagine Herbert plays I mean both the rule.

459
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: Was ruled out like that, that was pretty quick. And

460
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: then with Slater it's it's a pectoral injury. We know

461
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: what we know. Can be Yeah, and as soon as

462
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: he was ruled out, Herbert was ruled out like it

463
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: was like at the same time, and they at Herbert, Well,

464
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: he couldn't protect himself out there anymore. Well, he wasn't

465
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: gonna protect himself at all with Tray Pipkins at left tackle.

466
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw this, but Harbaugh said something along

467
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: the lines of is as soon as I see a

468
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: limp with Herbert, I'm taking them out.

469
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, coincide happened was losing your left tackle.

470
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: R Yeah, but that Alt did miss much time.

471
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 2: No, wait, and I don't know if it's bad or not.

472
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: I wonder if they would take all and move him

473
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: back to the left side if if a slater is out.

474
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 3: That's interesting because Pipkins has played right.

475
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe, I mean, if it's going to be a

476
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: long term thing, probably, I think that would be the

477
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: mob to make. Here's what they got, chiefs at the Broncos,

478
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: which is never an easy place to play.

479
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 3: Oh no, the Cardinals, hypothetical Chargers are Broncos today without Herbert,

480
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: They're a dog, yeah.

481
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: No question.

482
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wasn't high in the Broncos, but they

483
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 3: good things yesterday.

484
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: They played well yeah, at the Cardinals that won't be No. Uh,

485
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: then they get the Saints at home. Then they're at

486
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: the Browns. Yeah.

487
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be in playoff contention at Thanksgiving.

488
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: No, and then they get the Titans, Bengals, Ravens at

489
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: Falcons at Chiefs, boil the back end of their schedules. Yes, Buccaneers, Uh, yeah,

490
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: they need they need to win some of these games.

491
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if they you know, if Herbert's out

492
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: there in trouble real quick.

493
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm one of our favorite bets predictions was

494
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: over under win total for Chargers go under.

495
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: I feel prett good about it. I still felt about

496
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: but yeah, I feel pretty good about it. Now. They're

497
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: the same with the Steelers, both eight and a half.

498
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: They're not similar organization, No, not at all. No, I

499
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: feel good about the top four. Top five teams really,

500
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers, Bills, Chiefs, Texans, Jets. Yes, those teams will

501
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: probably be in the playoffs. Unless the Jets get old

502
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 2: and have a rash of injuries. Yeah, Morgan mos just

503
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: getting hurt. I just hope it's not step one for them.

504
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: If it's now it's Tyron Smith and now we don't

505
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: have any tackles, and then Rogers are getting hit.

506
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: They're just fragile. But that's only five teams. Then the

507
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: Raiders aren't in it for the long haul. I think

508
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 2: Cincy and Baltimore your next next two best bets. Dolphins

509
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: aren't in it for the long haul. Patriots aren't in

510
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: it for the long haul.

511
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: Miami's in big trouble. Yeah, big trouble.

512
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: Denver isn't all.

513
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 3: If Jacksonville wins tonight, they could be back in it.

514
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: If they lose tonight, they could be done. It could

515
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: be like fire coach time. Yeah, I mean, I really

516
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: think it's like getting close to that, like oh and

517
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: four for them after paying Lawrence could be fire coach time.

518
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: If they get back to two and two with a

520
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 3: wind tonight and be okay, they could be number seven.

521
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean all this is very even change for

522
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: that playoff field as a whole. Let's say it's the Steelers,

523
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: Bills and no Nuts, you know, yeah, they're just in

524
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: the in the mix. Steelers, Bills, Chiefs, Texans, Jets. Let's

525
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: say it's the Bengals and Ravens, depending on where you

526
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: play those games, Like yeah, you don't want to go

527
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: to get You don't want to go to Arrowhead, you

528
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: don't want to have to go to Buffalo. Again, winning

529
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: division wouldn't be bad. Winning the division would would be

530
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that in the first round.

531
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: Maybe you do end up with a buy. The Chiefs

532
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: are not playing great football right now, and I say that,

533
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, they're playing well enough. And it's difficult when

534
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: you are that team you have the you have the

535
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: target on you every week. You're getting every team's best

536
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 2: effort every week. And so that's that's kind of what

537
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: we've seen thus far with the Chiefs, Like they're getting

538
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: like everybody's what the Chiefs barely won that one. They

539
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: barely won that one. They were lucky to win that one. Yeah,

540
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: because they're getting everybody's a game every week. It's not

541
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: an easy place to live. I've seen the Steelers have

542
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: to do that the like when you're the defending Super

543
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Bowl champion, you were getting everybody's a game.

544
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 3: And there's something to be said to that, and they're

545
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: used to it, there's no question. And I don't think

546
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: they're like the Golden State Warriors that they don't have

547
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: to try hard that's not how this league works.

548
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: But they're gonna win that division. Yeah, I mean much resistant.

549
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: So I don't typically get to watch a lot of

550
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Sunday games, but I was home early enough last night

551
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: because it was a home one o'clock game and it

552
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: was over in four minutes. Yeah, to watch the Chiefs

553
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: on Sunday night football, watch the Chiefs, I thought. Yeah.

554
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: First y, I said, I thought Atlanta could win that

555
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: game going into the game, and it was pretty even battle.

556
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: They probably should have. I have been a Chris Collinsworth

557
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: defender over the years, like when people you know, tweet

558
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: at me and stuff like collins Worth's awful. When Patrick

559
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: Mahomes bends over to tie his shoe, collins Worth doesn't

560
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: have to say, oh, look at that. That's the greatest

561
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: shoe tying I've ever seen. Oh, you really have to

562
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: respect the way Patrick Mahomes tie his shoes. He goes

563
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: around the around the horn on it like shoe tying history. Yeah,

564
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: he's good, we all know he's good. He's not playing

565
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: great though, No he's not. He will, but he isn't.

566
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: You know, right, everything is not the greatest thing you've

567
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: ever seen. And oh my god, this is transcend. You know,

568
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: he's been down, come down, and God touched him on

569
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: his right shoulder, and come on, Chris, he doesn't walk

570
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: on water right and he's struggling a little bit in

571
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: their team. You're allowed to say that, right, right, right,

572
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: you know, everything's not the greatest thing you've ever seen.

573
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: Back to the original conversation though, like X, there's only

574
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: three weeks ago before the Steelers have played any games

575
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: in the in the regular season, and it looked like

576
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 3: man AFC is going to be a gauntlet.

577
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: I mean, so the.

578
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Number eight seed, the number nine seed, maybe that would

579
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: have been Pittsburgh could have been a very worthy playoff team.

580
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: But I don't see it like that anymore. No, let's

581
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: just look at the schedule ahead here. Yeah, it's not

582
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 2: so bad at the Colts right this week. I mean

583
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: when that when before the season starts, that's going to

584
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: be a tough game. You know, they're an up and coming.

585
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: Tables are at right now. I don't like where they're at.

586
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: Cowboys at home. I don't like where they're at right now.

587
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: Nou at the Raiders, they're looking pretty bad. Jets at home, okay,

588
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: Giants at home. Right at the Commanders. I mean, that's

589
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: your first nine games. Seven and two is very possible.

590
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: Nine to zero isn't the most insane thing that's ever

591
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: fallen out of my mouth. It's it's you think there's

592
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: going to be a blippinger, like if we're if we're

593
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: picking these games now, you think they'll beat the Colts

594
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys at home, you know, but given Dallas's run defense

595
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: right now.

596
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Right right right, and there a line is actually a

597
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: problem too. Yeah, you know, like they got after Dak.

598
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: And you know, at the Raiders. I know, traditionally that's

599
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: been a problem to go to the Raiders that you know,

600
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: when they were in Vegas or when they were in

601
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: when they're in Oakland. I've seen them win beat the

602
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: Raiders on the road in Los Angeles when they were

603
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: in the Los Angeles Raiders. And I've seen them win

604
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: in Vegas last year. That was an Oakland problem more

605
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: than anything. You're saying, yeah, yeah, that venue, and they

606
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: can they've won in LA. They have trouble winning in

607
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: other places on the West coast, gotcha. They didn't have

608
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,719
Speaker 2: any trouble beating the Raiders last year in Vegas.

609
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: So let me do this for you, Like those nine games,

610
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: and then the buys right after that, right then you

611
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: get to buy. Yeah, I know this isn't offered in

612
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Vegas right now, but if I said the Steelers over

613
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: under win total for the nine games.

614
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: The buy is actually right before the Commander's game.

615
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, anyways, we'll still do the first nine before

616
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: we get into the division. If I said it at seven,

617
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: you'd go over because eight is more likely than six.

618
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: If I said it at seven and a half, I

619
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: don't know that I could get enough action on.

620
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: Both sides of it. Yeah, a tough one, right, that's

621
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: pretty nice. And if you if you have six.

622
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: Or seven and a half and one and a half

623
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: at the first nine, that's pretty good.

624
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: And we've all talked about ad nauseum of how they finish. Yeah,

625
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: but if you got seven, let's say you're at seven,

626
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: you went seven and two in those first nine games,

627
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: you're in really good shape.

628
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: Because in the division, No, I'm convinced of that, Browns

629
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: are a mess right now, what Hayward pickens, Minka could

630
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: be hurt and you're not gonna gown six in the division.

631
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: It's just Tomlin's not going to be hurt. Yeah, you know,

632
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: I mean, like they're gonna win division games. Yeah, and

633
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 3: the Browns might be a disaster by that, it might

634
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: be full on revolt time.

635
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they may have fired to coach by then,

636
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, things aren't going The guy who

637
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: was the coach of the year last year maybe out

638
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: the door. I mean.

639
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: By then too, it looks like the best team you've

640
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: ever seen, you know, I mean, but they're not gonna

641
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: go in sixth in division everything.

642
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point to bring, just looking at

643
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: what since that he has, and I know they're about

644
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: to get hot. Their schedule, Yeah, their schedule was much easier.

645
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: So they get the Commanders tonight. Then they're at the Panthers,

646
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: although all of a sudden that looks a little different

647
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: now it's a little different, but well, Andy Dalton revenge game.

648
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: It looks like Haggans is back and chances probably knocked

649
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: the rest off.

650
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: And then they get the Ravens at home.

651
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: Pivotal game for the Ravens in particular. Yeah, their next

652
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: couple are hard.

653
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: At the Giants, at the Browns, Eagles at home, Raiders

654
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: at home at the Ravens, charge at the Chargers. I

655
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: should say then they get the Steelers, at the Cowboys,

656
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: at the Titans, Browns at home, Broncos at home, and

657
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: at the Steelers. So there that schedule I think sets

658
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: up well for them.

659
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: That I like them one of the seventeen. Yes, I

660
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: mean in a minimal maybe we'll be like tomorrow we

661
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 3: back here. Bengals lost last night. Oh my gosh, they're

662
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: zero and three. They're doomed.

663
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: That could happen. I have a tough time seeing that today.

664
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Speaker 2: Make commanders.

665
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Speaker 3: I have a hunch that if we went through that

666
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: schedule tomorrow at this time, I would say they're favored

667
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: in eighty percent of those games. Yeah, I mean they're

668
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: the Chargers, and yeah, there's a lot of teams there

669
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: that look very beatable. If the Bengals are playing like

670
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: we think the Bengals can play.

671
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ravens still have Ravens can end up one

672
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: in four. They could. They get the Bills next week.

673
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: Now it's it's in Baltimore, but it's a night game.

674
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 2: You think they're a dog at home to the Bills.

675
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: I think they'll probably be fair. They were favored in Dallas. Bills,

676
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: I guess have a short week. The Bills go blow

677
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: out the Jaguars tonight.

678
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: Short week on the road in Baltimore. Bills are a

679
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: better team though, Yeah, they're the better. Yeah, they're the better.

680
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: They're the more complete team right now.

681
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: Balt I don't know, Baltimore is gonna block their pass rush.

682
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: That's a problem, right, It's gonna be a big problem. Yeah.

683
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Then they're at the Bengals. I feel like that's a

684
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: game they need to win. Commanders at home at the

685
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: Buccaneers with their pass defense, that won't be No, it's

686
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: not a walk in the park. And we'll see you

687
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: know at that point, you know, do they get via

688
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: avea back? Is uh? Winfield? If I'd have known those

689
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: three guys were out yesterday for Tampa Bay.

690
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like I like the Bucks in that

691
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: game too. Yeah, underestimated Denver.

692
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: Two at the Browns, Broncos at home, Bengals at home,

693
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Speaker 2: at the Steelers at the Chargers, Eagles at home at

694
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: the Giants, Steelers at home at the Texans, and then

695
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the Browns at home the last six weeks or so,

696
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: aren't you they don't have any cake walking the next

697
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: couple of games or yeah, they get out, you know

698
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to. You're they're going to steal some

699
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: games that they're pretty four.

700
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if by chance that game would have got

701
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: away from them yesterday, which it was trending.

702
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: To yeah.

703
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: Three minutes, right, we might be like, I don't know

704
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: if Raven's going to playoffs. Yeah, I mean, even even

705
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: as soft as the AFC looks all of a sudden,

706
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: so and.

707
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: Then you look at cleveland schedule, I don't. I think

708
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland's in.

709
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: Deep trouble to I think they fear they could lose

710
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: the locker room, you know, like I don't know how

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: bad it is, but Garrett's injured.

712
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's hurt, and so is their entire offensive line, right,

713
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: and they got to go play the Raiders this week

714
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: and they can't run the ball at all, and the

715
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: head coach is challenging the Raiders manhood.

716
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: At this point, I assume they're favored in Vegas this week,

717
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: but it might be like pick them game or.

718
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: One point five. You know, Yeah, they've scored much, They've

719
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: scored seventeen, eighteen and fifteen points.

720
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: And the quarterbacks getting killed. My concern again is just

721
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: the locker rooms. How do you go to Miles Garrett

722
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: and say, we're gonna just keep rolling with the Shawn

723
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: the way he's playing, you know, like that's when things go.

724
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: The best thing for them is that their next three

725
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: games are on the road. I guess that probably is

726
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: good because the home fans are not being it's it's

727
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: gotten pretty bad unless they play defense like they did

728
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: last year on the road. So here's what they at

729
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: the Raiders, at the Commanders, at the Eagles. They're not

730
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: beating the Eagles in Filadel third out of three road games,

731
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: No way, three rogans arose always that's rough. So if

732
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: they don't beat the Raiders this week, you're looking at

733
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: maybe a two and four start.

734
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: So's the short answer the question. This week's game against

735
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: the Raiders is a loser league town match pretty much.

736
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: I mean, whoever loses that one from trouble not going

737
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: to the playoffs.

738
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: Because after the Eagles game, then they host the Bengals,

739
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: then they host the Ravens, then they host the Chargers

740
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: over them. Right now, assuming Herberts Ravens and like the Chargers,

741
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: neither one of us think they're a super that. We

742
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: don't think they're a playoff contender. Yeah, but they got

743
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: things buttoned up. But there's a they're a physical matchup.

744
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, like when you mentioned the Ravens play,

745
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not gonna be fun. No, I mean,

746
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 3: the coaching staffs know each other unbelievably well, the brothers

747
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: and you know the coordinator they stole from A Dobbins.

748
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: That's going to be a close game, no matter. It's

749
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: going to be the Spider Man, you know.

750
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah again, right, that's gonna be Steelers Ravens.

751
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. After the Chargers game, the Browns have to go

752
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: to New Orleans, which is never fun. No, they're a

753
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: dog there for sure. Then they come to Pittsburgh. Dog

754
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: at the Broncos.

755
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 3: Maybe not as easy to think, Yeah, Broncos defensive front's

756
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: pretty good.

757
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: Then they get at Pittsburgh and they had the Chiefs

758
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: at home, at the Bengals, Dolphins at home maybe.

759
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: To us back by, Yeah it could be. That's not crazy.

760
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: And then at the Ravens. That three game stretch was

761
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: what Steelers Bengals. I'm looking at the The Browns might

762
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: win five games.

763
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: I would say six and eleven might be ambitious. Yeah,

764
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: and I know that I have said a lot of

765
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 3: dumb things in September trying to over my career, trying

766
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: to predict seasons. But I don't think Deshaun Watson all

767
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: of a sudden turns into a good player. No, And

768
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: the offense to me was just worrisome.

769
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 2: So this I mean at three and oh, I feel

770
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: pretty good about the Steelers' chances at this point. Now

771
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: things could go bad, oh yeah, But I felt good

772
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: about them from the beginning of the I thought there

773
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: were ten win team when the season started.

774
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: We were in on the over on oh yeah, that

775
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Yeah, and we both picked them to

776
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: go to the playoffs.

777
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't buying any of the this is Tomlin's first

778
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: losing season stuff, none of that, because again, the depth

779
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: of this team, the depth of this roster wasn't going

780
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: to allow for that.

781
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: And they've lost guys, but they're also getting guys back

782
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: that they haven't had to had to utilize yet. I

783
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: think they've a couple of winnable games, a handful of

784
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: winnable games before you even see the division.

785
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: Because that defense is going to travel, that running game

786
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: is going to travel seven and two you're in. Yeah,

787
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: you have to completely fall apart and then you're talking

788
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: about you win the division. Can you get the number

789
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: one seed? You know, that's what That's what you're getting

790
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: into that conversation.

791
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 3: In that conversation, right, what if Stroud's heard or something

792
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: like that.

793
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Now, all of a sudden, you when you're playing the

794
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City on Christmas Eve, maybe you're playing for the

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: number one seed in the in the AFC. Mm hm, No,

796
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: I don't think it doesn't. You know, you win that game,

797
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: you have a tie breaker.

798
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a plausible story to write.

799
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, from where there's getting a long way down the

800
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: road here, understandably.

801
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: But if the offense keeps taking steps baby steps.

802
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: And the defense keeps playing the way it is right

803
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: it's the best defense in the league.

804
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: Then if Watt stays hell, I mean, catastrophic things don't happen. Yeah,

805
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 3: you know right now they're really in a good spot.

806
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: We'll get to more of where that defense ranks in

807
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: the league and things of that nature when we come back.

808
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the the DVOA rankings coming

809
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: out of this week. Okay, we'll do that when we return.

810
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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

817
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,200
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00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080
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00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,000
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820
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: on YouTube as well, where we do this show from

821
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: four to six Monday through Friday, every every day during

822
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: the season and follow it through to the off season

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00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: as well. We do a lot of off season shows,

824
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: draft coverage like crazy free agency stuff will break down

825
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: as all kinds of Matt and I at the Combine,

826
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: we go to the owners meetings, I go to the

827
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl, all that stuff.

828
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: So maybe I'll join you this year. I've said that

829
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: two years in a row. I don't know why I

830
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: haven't gone down, but I should.

831
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 2: We could do some shows down there. Yeah, it'll be

832
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: fun anyways. So looking here at the FTN Fantasy DVOA rankings,

833
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers have moved up to number six in the D.

834
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: Four teams to play, but you know they adjust them

835
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: on the fly. So New Orleans still in six.

836
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: Ok.

837
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: That wasn't a terrible loss, not by New Orleans its

838
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: body opponent, and they just didn't put a lot of

839
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 3: points up. They had some line injuries too.

840
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think they're like going away.

841
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Seattle number two, three and zero. I mean their defenses

842
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: I bet pretty high on that list.

843
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: It is number one. Wow. Wow, No, I'm sorry, they're

844
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Speaker 2: number two. Minnesota is number one, Okay, sixth on special team.

845
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: That's kind of the offense though, is fifth. So if

846
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: you're two and five, that's not too bad. Yeah, yeah, Minnesota.

847
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 3: Three, agreed. I don't think that's crazy.

848
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: Baltimore four. I still love Baltimore one and two.

849
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: Played the Chiefs tough, played the Raiders tough, but lost

850
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: them both. I wonder how much of that there. I mean,

851
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: they were number one in DVOA last year, so I

852
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: wonder if there's some carryover from preseason.

853
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: For there's got to be some of that, because there

854
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: has to be. I mean, they have not been a

855
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: top five team this year. No, offensively, they're number one

856
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: in the league. That's a real stretch, that's a real stretch.

857
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: There isn't some there isn't dominant offenses right now, that's

858
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: a real stretch.

859
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Eleventh on defense, which is more. Yeah, I can buy that.

860
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Twenty fifth on special teams. Tucker's a problem.

861
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way kickings go in the league, he went

862
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: from the best to the fifteenth.

863
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: By the end of this season. He may no longer

864
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: be the number one kicker all the time in accuracy.

865
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: Given this, this sounds like he's missed three kicks in

866
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: three weeks. Yeah, this sounds like blasphemy. But they may

867
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: have to have the conversation of is he a cap casualty?

868
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: That would probably be after the season. I mean yeah,

869
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: I mean, like, is the time to move on from him?

870
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: We can't have the one of the highest priced kickers

871
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: in the league, who's the fifteenth best guy?

872
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, despite his career that right now, right it can't

873
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: make anything wrong. He's missed all of his attempts over fifty.

874
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: But the whole league's making everything. And I think he

875
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: missed one yesterday, or I think he shanked one from

876
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: forty eight yards, he pulled it. He went wide on

877
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: that one. It might be over for him. Buffalo right

878
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: now is number five.

879
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: I probably have them a little higher, but maybe they

880
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: after tonight.

881
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the Steelers at six.

882
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: I don't think that's bonkers. You know, when we talk

883
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: like power ranks tomorrow and all those things, there's a

884
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: hand there's a lot of teams that are two win

885
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: that have a case for over the Steelers, sure, or

886
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: even the Niners at one and two.

887
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not down on Detroit yet. No, I would have

888
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: them ahead of the Steelers.

889
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right right, like green Bay surviving and being

890
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: two and one, knowing the you know their circumstances.

891
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: That's a good team, you know. I mean.

892
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: Minnesota, Seattle. How would you power rank Minnesota, Seattle and

893
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: the Steelers all three and zero. No one quite saw

894
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: it coming.

895
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be I'll be honest. I haven't seen

896
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Seattle play obviously, I've seen all three Steeler games.

897
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: I'd have to look more into it, but very impressive

898
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: coaching jobs. Defenses are I think they're one and two

899
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: in DVA. I mean beating Houston was a big win

900
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: for Mins. Yeah, they have some big win.

901
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that Seattle doesn't have a win like

902
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: that yet. No Miami going there and in their state.

903
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: They beat Denver, so I'd probably have them three, and

904
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: then i'd have to look at Minnesota and Pittsburgh.

905
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Seattle's other win was overtime in New England. Yeah,

906
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: so no, right, and they're all kicking their coverage. But

907
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: that's they're three.

908
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's definitely the way I would live.

909
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: The Steelers have moved up now eighteenth on offensive DVOA.

910
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: They had to be very low early. They're now on

911
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: the positive side of DVOA in terms of other offense

912
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: of average offense. Actually, I'm sorry, they're minus point five. Okay,

913
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: they're close. They're nearly at cursor was over top of that,

914
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: so almost almost average. But if they if they can

915
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: do that with this defense all season long, if you're

916
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: eighteenth by the end of the season.

917
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: So we said that a lot of that going into

918
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: the season. I remember, now you want more, don't you?

919
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, greedy, I'm greedy.

920
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: Last season when they the final ten games, when they

921
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: averaged one hundred and forty five rushing yards per game,

922
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: they slowly climbed the ladder DVA to where they finished

923
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: I believe nine, a.

924
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Lot higher than our listeners might think. For the whole season, for.

925
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: The season, right because running the ball.

926
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: And controlling the clock and I'm making mistakes. Yeah, interceptions

927
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: are along the way, things like that, mistakes. So before

928
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: the season we often said, let's say this is a

929
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: top eight defense in DVOA and the twentieth offense, and

930
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: we're both like, I take that. That's what sounds like

931
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: a playoff team that'd be hard to beat.

932
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: I want more than that. Now. Top eight's not good

933
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: enough on defense. Now they're fourth in defense right now, I.

934
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: Know that's what I'm saying, Like for the year, if

935
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: you just told me they're gonna be top eight, I'm like,

936
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm going fish.

937
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: They may be one, they should be one to ryeah.

938
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: I think when it's all said and done, they end

939
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: up they will be number one. I think they're going up.

940
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 2: This one might surprise people. They're eighth on special teams.

941
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: That's taking everything, your coverage, you're kicking everything, you know,

942
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: your returns into account.

943
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: Well, they don't miss kicks. The punting's been a plus.

944
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Ridge has been good and Austin's

945
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: had a couple of returns. Austin's been good with returns.

946
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: We haven't gotten to see them return any kicks yet

947
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: because everybody's just kicking it out. That's not going to

948
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: put They had zero returns. They've had one squib kicked

949
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: the Warren oh right, right right, Okay. Outside of that,

950
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: nobody's kicking to their guys because Cordell Patterson and Jaylen warrens,

951
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to kick to him either. That's not

952
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: going to hold up all season long. At some point,

953
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: the weather's going to turn and teams aren't gonna be

954
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: able to simply kick the ball out of the end zone.

955
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that day's coming, Killer Brew bought upon

956
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: at some point.

957
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: He's come close a couple they got it. They have

958
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 2: actually come really close in the first few at three games,

959
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: they've been close.

960
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: They've had a couple of special teams penalties, but everyone

961
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: always does.

962
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially early early in the season. By the way,

963
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: three penalties yesterday.

964
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Yep, from being like the most penalized team in the league.

965
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: That's changing quickly too.

966
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: And I went and I looked to see what Blakeman's

967
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: crew called they did the the forty nine ers RAMS

968
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: game yesterday. And I know this because I was I

969
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: was listening to the to the broadcast on my way

970
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: home yesterday after the game, and on one play Blakeman's

971
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: crew threw against the forty nine ers in the fourth quarter,

972
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: three separate on one play, three separate flags. Not like

973
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: when I hold it was all hands of the face.

974
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: There was an illegal hands of the face, there was

975
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: a it was it was something else that was minor.

976
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: And then a pass interference down the field, and of

977
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: course the Rams took the pass interference that set up

978
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: the game winning touchdown. Wow, like game winning field goal.

979
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: I should say they called all investigated almost two hundred

980
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: yards of penalties in that game. Again, and penalties every

981
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: freaking week with that crew.

982
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: We got to pay more attention to who they're in charge.

983
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: I always do because it really changes things or evens things.

984
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

985
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: Again, I do this podcast with Brian Peacock, who's a

986
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: Niner guy. He's like, we were the better team, and

987
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: but when you're getting.

988
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: When you're getting over one hundred yards and penalties called

989
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: against you.

990
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: He did't even bring up a penalty is in our

991
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: quick conversation, but it was like, you.

992
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Might want to mention that, hey can make sure you

993
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: keep an eye on clean Blakeman's crew I'm going to

994
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: watch them the rest of the year. Yeah, I just

995
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: want to see who they are. Awful might nobody's paying

996
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: money to see them.

997
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: I might just pick the underdog in Blakeman game. Yeah,

998
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: because it evens a playing field.

999
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: It certainly makes it a much slogs the game down.

1000
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: It does, There's no doubt about that. So real quick.

1001
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: I dug this up just as kind of a teaser

1002
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: for indie stuff. So the Niners are unbelievable right now

1003
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: with time possession, They're thirty five thirty eight. But the

1004
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 3: Steelers are second already at thirty three fifty five, which

1005
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: is a big number. Dead last Colts they're at twenty

1006
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: four thirty sous.

1007
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 2: The quarterback doesn't complete passes, he can't make layoffs, they.

1008
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: Don't run plays. I mean, they're the bottom league in plays.

1009
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: They're the bottom league of time possession. I mean, if

1010
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: Steelers have to hold the ball for thirty five thirty

1011
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: six minutes in Indy, it won't be close in the

1012
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: second It's going to be it look like the second

1013
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: half the other day.

1014
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: It's going to be like the Python just squeezing the

1015
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: life out of exactly opposing team. Yeah. Absolutely, Matt, that's

1016
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: going to do for the show today. Good stuff, man. Absolutely,

1017
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: we'll be back again tomorrow breakdown to Mike Tomlin press conference.

1018
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: Can I let you know of any news that happens

1019
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: in that? More analysis will start getting into the into

1020
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts a little bit more. We'll talk about

1021
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: the Monday night games. There's two of them this week

1022
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: and well they involved yeah, two three actually AFC teams,

1023
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens out of that. But for

1024
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site,

1025
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: and we'd like to offer a happy birthday to Tyler

1026
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: viitt Meyer who keeps us on doing the job. Absolutely,

1027
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale, Lolly. We appreciate you listening to this edition

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Speaker 2: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.