WEBVTT - Episode 389 w/ Treach 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.160 He is drinks chants, motherfucking podcast man. He's a legendsary 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.279 queen's rapper. He ain't sag greed as your boy in 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.000 O R E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:22.680 What up as dj E f N? 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.240 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:29.560 players you know me and the most professional unprofessional podcast 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.360 and your number one source for drunk drinks chans postquay 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.880 ds New Year's c Listen, It's time for drink champions. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:45.720 Drink up, motherfucker? Would it good? Be hoping to the 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.280 super is your boy? And O R E? 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.199 What Up is dj E f N? And this is 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.279 middle TYMP of Crazy War. Yeah, you drink chemps ye. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.520 And when I tell you we want to interview legends, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.840 I come. When I listened to this man style, he's 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.960 my friend. But I had to do the due diligence 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.200 of looking up everything and listening to everything. And when 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.440 I tell you this man is a one of one, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.840 you cannot duplicate him. There's one and when he's done, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.960 there will be none. He's a part of a legendary group. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.000 I think his name should be missed. The anthem I 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.800 seen him the other night we was at Mister Leftfrack's 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.440 party and DJ colleg was just sitting there watching him perform, 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.720 and I realized, this is where Colin got his anthems from. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:37.360 When he was. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.680 Making anthems, he had this man naming this. He had 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.400 this man facing his mind to make anthems, not records, 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:50.520 not hits, anthems shit that last lifetime. The reason why 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.120 you want Big Mama to cook Thanksgiving is because that 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:00.920 little skinny girl can't cook shit. You want experience, You 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.720 want people who know how to be in that stuve. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.880 This man has dominated movies, He has dominated so many 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.880 feels and and if you're under twenty one, he might 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:19.400 have smashed your mom's. He's a legendary icon, one of 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:23.520 the no his story is so immaculate, it's so crazy, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.279 and we're gonna get to the bottom. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:25.760 Of it today. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.320 So in case you don't know who were talking about, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:36.079 we talking about the one the only trigger mother ch 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.600 I ain't gonna lie to you. Listen. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.760 I was we was going through something that I had 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.920 to go to Canada and I was in Jersey. I 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.560 called you up there. I don't know if you remember. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.960 That's like the first time I ever like me and 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.040 you like because we've always been friends, but this first 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.520 time we ever like really spoke in depth. So I 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.799 said that on the internet just now. I was like, Yo, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.160 we got trets and one of my friends immediately is like, yo, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.680 tell him about the time smoked in Jersey and this 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:02.240 is when. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:07.600 We smoked out the bathroom. The whole department. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.000 Apartment is really thumbing down a lot. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.639 So so trust I gotta see you the other day 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.120 or I'm left rack party, but it was in a mansion, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:19.840 so it's. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.200 Not left right. Two million? Yes, holy mo, I couldn't. 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.679 I couldn't believe how dope that was. But did you 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.960 get to see you perform? 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:34.920 Like the crowd knew every single word. Is that something 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.640 that's overwhelming or that's something that. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.440 You just used to at this point? I mean, it's 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:40.160 it's both. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.840 I'm music it it's overwhelming, but it just shows how 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.360 how deep hip hop is. Translations, translations, you know what 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:54.080 I'm saying. Translations Like, it's so amazing. We had did 0:03:54.160 --> 0:04:00.440 a show like in Japan some years back, and it 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.200 was the age range was eight to eighty. Wow, big 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:05.040 Daddy k lyrics. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:05.640 That's amazing. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.000 Eight to eighty literally the kids and the grandparents was 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.800 in there. They didn't speak a bit eighty percent ain't 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.719 speak a bit of English, but album songs we played 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:22.719 off of their they knew every word translations. Wow, knew 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.080 every word, not just the perfect English. Knew the album track, 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.160 but yoke, the joker, every they knew lyrics. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.840 So it was like just to see that is it 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.440 is humbling. That's amazing? Yeah, amazing, amazing. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.240 What's one of the craziest places you've been to and 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:41.320 performed that? 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.200 Besides Japan obviously probably Iraq? 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.320 Did you gonna say, okay, I was in Africa too? 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:54.120 Okay you performed to Africa? Oh yeahs banan Avi don Jabootie. Yeah, Jesus, 0:04:54.440 --> 0:05:00.840 we were actually out there seventy thousand people one spot 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.440 in Africa. We were with the rebels. The police moved out. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:10.159 They wait, you feel me? So when we went out 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:13.360 there to see our people, when they like it was 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.000 literally like back home, got off the plane, kissed the ground. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.360 Actually you feel me like it was some real spiritual 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:28.240 you go through. But like I Raq just right after us. Yeah, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.440 he was out there performing for the soldiers, morale and 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:39.040 our Rakis that was out there and we performed actually 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.960 in this Saddam stadium that they bombed. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.400 There was a time where. 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.880 Legend that the soccer team lost and he killed the 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:53.000 whole We were in that he. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:59.000 Killed the whole team for losing. Like, but we in 0:05:59.120 --> 0:05:59.640 I racked. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.040 We got one hundred pounds of armor on we you know, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.400 we in the base. It's like five miles to even 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.159 get you know, they got it all secured. But performing 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.800 in front of the soldiers and Iraqis or that was 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:16.240 there and they don't speak half of them English and 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:21.240 they knew the albums and the tracks, it's like crazy. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.560 But we had to sign our. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.159 Lives off if anything happened over here. Your family cannot 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.320 sue the US gun brother, don't they pay your taxes 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:28.920 or something like that. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.320 Look when you get it right off, you. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.240 Get it right off, right, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.160 you get a little credit, but you gotta pay your 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:42.080 Texas Okay, okay, I forget, I forget how but let 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.760 me let me let me ask, right because Jersey is 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:49.400 like it's like it's like it's the other town. Right. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.880 If you had to name your top five Jersey mcs, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.160 your top five Jersey mcs. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:07:01.320 Damn top five. Yeah, have to be King's son son Patrick. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:09.200 He from Jersey, from Jersey, the wrongs kings sons from Jersey. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.480 Ship you feel me? 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:22.200 Uh wise intellect okay, red Man, Red Man and Queen 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:28.120 Latif that might be five, Rod Digger, Laurren Hell let me, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:34.520 I'm a name everybody, you know. It's like Jersey, we 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.200 we tight and right, and it's just we we overlooked 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.679 so much. So it's like I haven't seen or really 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:46.560 cleft like Jerseys is venom spitters. But I mean, everybody 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.880 have a different style, you feel me. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:49.520 So it's like. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.840 I'm I'm a fan before I was friends with him, 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:54.680 you know what I mean, And a lot of them 0:07:54.720 --> 0:08:00.160 I was friends before fans Lord Ali Boski Baz like 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:05.600 m J okay, yeah, damn yeah, damn you go back 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:06.640 like that. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:07.400 That's pretty bad. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:13.480 Like so now now let's describe the people. What is 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.160 because I lived in West Ores at one point. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.680 So what's the difference between West Oren, South Oras and 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:20.400 East Orange. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:21.240 Oh it ain't. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.400 It ain't no shooters in West Son he was in 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.160 the verb you was very good. You're doing you out 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.000 step over to the east side, east right, and that's 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.800 that's active Okay. West Arne is beautiful, right yeah, yeah, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.280 yeah to get there, so so and you guys from 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.240 East Orange, yeah okay, So describe to people who've never 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.120 who's never heard your music, who's never East Orie, because 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.559 you knows heard your music. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.800 But what I'm saying that. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.280 You like East Is basically North is the biggest city 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.480 in Jersey. Oh not Trend. I thought it was non. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.000 Trend is the capital, the capitol, Masstero. I got computs 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.360 and one of the most ignorant in Camden. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.120 They really that life. 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.560 That's South Jersey though that's close to the Atlantic city. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.720 North is North Jersey. East Orange is next to a 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:16.520 western South Orange Orange, Irvington, nor In the sixties it 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.640 was like the Hall Riots, you know what I mean, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.400 it was the Panthers. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.079 It was, you know, the stand up. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.880 And my parents and a lot of parents moved out 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:32.160 of North because it was so wild to neighboring cities. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.600 I was was East Orange. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.160 Some people moved to irving Ciston because it was it 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.120 was it was out of the war zone. So we 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 my mother moved from North to East Strange when we 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.760 were babies. I was born in North where we was 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.360 raised in East strange, and East Orange was basically a 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.960 lot of families from like I said, nor after a 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.360 while it started getting real active and anywhere you go 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.160 you leave eastne you go right across the border, it's 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.400 like Queens and Brooklyn right right there, and it's gangster 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:04.200 on both sides. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.960 It's just different territories. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.280 Different land now. I remember bringing. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.280 A dude that was from the West Coast and I 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.840 brung him to East Orange and I remember him saying, like, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.000 this is like his hood because at that time, other 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:26.280 than South Jamaica, and that's just parts of South Jamaica, people. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.840 Didn't really see hoods that had houses. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.280 Yeah, you know what I. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.679 Mean, Like it looked good on the outside. It's like Cali. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.640 You go central, but you see palm trees or anything else, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:37.880 and you. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:38.640 Like, I'm good. 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.080 It looks no, no, no no. But yeah it was 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:49.120 like houses and it was great. But it's like the 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:54.160 crack epidemic fucked everybody up. Once that came into motherfucker 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.800 start hustling all over. So it was nice houses and 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.719 everything else, but it was really pop you know what 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.640 I mean. After that, everybody was hustling, everybody was into it, 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:10.679 and so it got real greasy and grimy, right, yeah, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.719 probably like when he came. It's like when Coolio came 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.920 for the Rest in Peace. Coolio the first time he 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.520 came to the East Coast, came to our hood. He walked, 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.360 went to the store. He said, you know, he reads 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:27.120 the wall. Hey, cub, this is a blood hood. I said, yeah, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.760 you good. He said, yeah, I know, I'm good. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.160 I'm super cripping. I'm with you. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.240 He saw He was like, yo, they y'all banging out here, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.640 like yeah, yeah, it's active. Now. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.680 That's another thing that as soon as I put it 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:43.640 on Twitter, I said, you got questions for trash. One 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.800 of the first questions was was he the first person 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.320 to bring bloods. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.760 To the East Coast. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:54.120 Well, definitely, but not in the way of bringing bloods 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.280 to the East Coast. What happened Pop and me was 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.920 like this, right when this West Coast shit started popping off, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.720 we both was mindstorming, like, yo, we gotta level this shit. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.840 Out, all right. Boom boom boom boom boom. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.120 We was talking was like damn, And it's kind of 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.760 like we came up with it at the same time. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.520 I'm gonna get a West Coast gul as Nordy, I'm 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.240 gonna get the East Coast cool, all right. So he 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.000 got the Outlaws and we got the road Dogs. And 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.200 how we got the road Dogs. We didn't go to 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.559 Cali looking for blood crips or anything. We just wanted 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.319 the West Coast group. They could have been from the 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.280 Bay of Anything. Wow. But the road Dogs just so 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.400 happened to be from Inglewood and they was Don Moves. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.440 So when they came back, they just told stories in 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:42.600 the hood and everything else. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.840 So that's why everybody always say double love. Inglewood. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.400 Ill Town was the first set on the East Coast 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.600 with the original West Coast backing. It wasn't just like, Yo, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.440 I'm a gang from La I'm gonna just call ourselves this. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:01.440 We really had the gang that came you know, through lyrics. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.520 Wow. So you know it was uh, it was funny 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:09.600 because at first when Park got the Outlaws, I'm like, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.680 where they're from? He like it from Mount Claire from No, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:19.320 I'm like Claire where who? He was like Fatal, I'm like, yeah, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.640 were banging with them niggas, right, meaning on the streets, 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.760 beat the hoods, get the fuck out of here. We 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:32.320 was banging. So I'm like you like these niggas. It 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.079 was like yeah, I'm like they dope. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:35.959 It was like yeah, and. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.880 You had never heard of though. No, Like Roman, I'm like, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.640 beef off, it's over. That's your squad from the East Coast, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.439 my squad. I'm like, you got a problem with my 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.959 niggas though, my nigg He's like nah, I said, yeah, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.079 so that's how all and we Fadal and all us 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.000 from from then it was like clicked upright. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.000 It was crazy to go back. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.520 You said that you guys, You and Pu spoke specifically 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.559 about you guys get a West coast group. He gets 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.160 an East coast group offset the Yeah, the East coast, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:08.560 West coast. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:09.120 Yeah. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.040 Yeah. It was funny though, because we used to do 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.839 interviews and ship they'd be like, what's up with the 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.319 East Coast West Coast BF, And we'll look at each 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.280 other hoop fuck you in the West coast, you in 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.560 the East Coast and laugh like what fucking beef? And 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.880 the media was hyping that up. Definitely, that wasn't really really. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.960 It was proved spoke on in on a panel we 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.720 used at Harvard iceed Tea and all of us and 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.320 anything else, and they was like what do you think, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.440 like put put the rat destroy itself and everything else. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:37.920 I'm like, nah, the media did that. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.360 The first time I seen a Vibe magazine cover, I've 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.880 seen Puffed on it and Big on it, and the 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.560 caption was East versus West. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.960 Everyone, I said, start me for cutting you off. But everyone, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.240 whenever I have people on the show, we have people 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.600 on the show and we pinpoint the actual West coast 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.280 east coast thing. Everyone always preferred to this. Yeah, so 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.240 I remember, I remember, I think Big had a blue 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:05.680 shirt on. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.280 It was just them. It was a white background, white 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.760 background right next to Big and and the Biggest. The 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.680 only caption was East versus West. Gangsters don't read articles. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:23.119 They recaptured the niggas go right word up rap Master magazine. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:27.880 Oh oh it's on. Oh, any nigga come from the 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.440 East coast on the West done West vice versa. He's like, yo, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.080 we gotta do something offset this ship because this ain't 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.880 what really happening. Niggas is really fucking with each other. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.720 It's just a battle right now. It ain't East verse 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.440 fucking West. It's my fucking pucking Big going back and forth. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.720 And they gonna do records and anything else. And that's 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.840 the fuck it really Like I'm on the phone with 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.840 Pop with Schug, we actually know what he was on 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:58.640 the road with bad Boy during the whole turmoil ship Wow, 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.720 and I'm asking bigger than them, like Yo, after the 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.760 shows while y'alln't go out with us. Well man, you know, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.720 like you know this ship with death roll and all 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:17.040 of our said, ah boom death row, Yeah, I speak 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.200 to Sugar. Ain't here now this tretch Oh hold on, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.800 hold on, no Shug Shug. Well, yeah, what's up done, Yo? 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.840 We're park Oh he out right now. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:26.920 Boom boom boom Yo. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.080 Were on the road with bad Boy and these niggas 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.920 is not going on the road. They ain't doing none 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.840 name boom boom boom. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.240 I'm gonna and. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.680 Tell them niggas go fuck out, Nigga, we gonna make 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.440 better records than themselves, more, get more fucking money. Ain't 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.120 nobody after them. We never even coming on no tours 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.280 to do no motherfucker shit. Nigga, We're gonna bout that 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.160 boom boom bom every day after that, they was going 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.680 to every show, Lil Kim Junior Mafia asking nigga. They 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:54.720 actually after that, they came on there bad boy sets 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.480 without no shiny suits on. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.000 But the noughty boxers that we gave. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:10.360 You feel what I'm saying, no shirts and ties, and we. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:11.960 Like Nigga Nigga is hip hop. 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:15.080 Niggas battle, but niggas ain't going motherfucking dive for this ship. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.600 Nigga Nigga, Let's go, And it was it was a rat. 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:19.840 That was it. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.120 I'm bouncing on around a little bit because I want 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.720 to save the park stories for later. One of the 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:27.520 other things is. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.840 When you name the jersey and seas Queen Latifa, rod Digger, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.440 rod Digger, but Queen Lativa particularly. One of the things 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.520 that they said on the on the internet was why 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.200 does Latifa get help props as an MC? It almost 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.719 felt like Lativa got in a in a mass scale 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.280 Latifa got howt props more as an actor that's supposed 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.720 to I mean Twitter. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.520 If you asked any mcs, or you asked any body 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.600 in publication, or if you see the top five ten, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.240 which I always think is disrespectful and hip hop, I'm like, 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:06.080 you can't just give us. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.120 We need fifty to one hundred decades. 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.520 But how many times you hear them mentioned females, yo, yo, 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.760 rage balls like balls you feel. I'm saying like how 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.480 many times? So that be the thing right there. When 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.400 you name your top five, you gotta start saying what's 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.800 your top female blah blah blah, or they'll get left 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.639 out because you know it was always a male dominated pheel. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.760 But the women ain't get their their problems like that 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.719 through that through the politics, alright, that's it. Through us 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.960 just being on our dicks. All our top niggas are Liverpool, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.560 motherfucker EMC Light nigga, nigga. I was scared of EMPC 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.040 Light when I was coming up right, I'm like, nigga, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:55.639 she might diss me. She gotta come right fucking get. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.399 I don't want no smoke niggas. She is dope as 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.320 she wanted the rough neck too. Yeah, like come on, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:08.320 she's what she was actual faction and going back to 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.919 Greenland tef for like, without a doubt, she's one of 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:12.479 the illness man, one of the illests. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.040 And she transcended hip hop and took hip hop with her. 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:19.160 Yeah yeah, a spit her. I was always a spitter. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.520 She was doing time I met live before Flavory on 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:27.560 anything at competing talent shows. Wow, and she up there 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:34.080 with a beat by rocking and niggas like damn, we 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.440 gotta go after her. Yeah, like facts, the ladies is 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.440 out there. We just gotta recognize them. Let it be known. 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:49.560 Make some noise, ladies, now, trunt you out here threatening 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:50.080 Will Smith. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:56.080 No, no, you see all the l o ls behind it. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.040 It was a perfect time for me to get that 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.240 ship off. You said, is just no. No, you know my 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.879 ex bitch, I mean my ex wife, you know, Pepper 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.840 Pepper like she always she's she has her books in 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.600 the movies and all that, and and always put the 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.200 ship on my name and ain't them. So I'm knowing 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.400 when they sat down, Will has his podcast, they sat 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.399 down with that, and then I'm knowing Will didn't just 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.440 say just out of nowhere. 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.880 Well saying guys, I gotta stop Sandy. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.800 Do you remember when you and Trench had a break 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.280 and we were dating and you didn't know this? No, 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:36.400 so Will done creeped up on you. No, I mean, listen, Will, 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:37.320 We're gonna jump you with. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:44.479 Listen. 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:49.040 When I listen, I never knew Will Smith and when 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.080 my lady and us had a break or whatever the 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.960 fuck else, nigga. Somebody smashing nigga, ain't raper nigga, that 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.160 ain't mine and what the fuck ever. But for him 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:02.240 to mention that ship on there and the post came out, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.040 Trench Will says he was scared for his life. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.200 That trust my coming. So that was there. 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.280 So I posted, I screened shot and posted and I said, 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.000 key my excellen. 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:24.200 Right. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.840 Two facts. I was doing this play New Jack City Live. 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.320 We was in Philly. Shout out to my nigga, Charlie Matt. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:40.320 You know so Will Smith totally totally canceled at that time. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:43.640 But wait, wait home were society? 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:50.879 You mean it's after when the smack this past winner. Okay, 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:55.280 So he has his new film Emancipation. So Charlie Matt 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.120 calls us up to cast flex all us Alan paint Boom. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.359 We go to his premiere this hip hop and New York. No, 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.680 this was in phillip while we was doing our phillyka nigga. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.600 I love Will You know hey, No, I ain't no 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.720 beef with Will over that and I l o led 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.200 everything on my ship. But you know, motherfucker Trench is 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.000 gonna kill me. I'm not man, nigga. Fuck drink Sam 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:22.800 since you put that post. I mean, will I think 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.840 he know he better not never try to smack me, please, 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:31.080 So we're good, like he would know that much. 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.280 Hey, hey, but yeah. 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.080 But but but all honesty. 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:41.080 You know, Jada, you know, will you know Chris Rock? 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:44.200 When you first saw that, did you think that was stage? 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:45.719 Definitely? Okay, I did too. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.240 Actually she thought it was staged from Actually I nodded 0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:54.000 off and got up, and my wife like, you've just 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.679 seen that, so I thought I was dreaming. I'm like, 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.280 that was Will smack Chris Rock. I'm like, man, that's 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.920 part of the show. That's part of the show. That's 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.960 part of the show. When he sat back, damn, you 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.960 knew that was it. And then when Dad Dn actor 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:15.400 yo keyth my wife's name out your fucking mouth on live. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:24.359 TV and said, you this is not a skid. 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.600 You hear you know that, I was just feeling it 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.919 because I'm like, yo, the homie just fucked up just 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:36.919 for hisself by his standing and for that really to 0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:41.160 go on, and I was like fucking ego tripping, like, damn, nigga, 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:44.960 ain't never gonna get invited to the just gonna look 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:48.560 at my record, Nigga will smacking, I gotta check my 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:56.399 hands and yeah singer like damn, he sucked it up 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.119 for all us. But you know, I'm just all I 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:05.160 hope all be forgotten and anything else. And Chris Rock 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.959 just get his sneak back, you know, well he did 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.440 it special that Yeah. Yeah he picked us up too. 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.560 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah he up yeah yeah, hold on 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:15.520 litt listen. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:19.680 Picking up drinks. 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.480 Like so, one thing I loved about going through your 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:27.440 psisciography right is, like like I said earlier on your intro, 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.639 like you really make anthems, you really make global music. 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.080 You really make music that like I said, it's like 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:37.080 it's timeless, like you know what I mean. I see 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.040 I think you rock for a whole crowd and full 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:39.680 of white people. 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:40.399 It wasn't. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.200 I think I was the blackest dude there. I felt 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:47.040 like acon you know what I'm saying. I was like, yeah, yeah, massive, 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.560 I've seen you and and and they knew every word. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:57.760 Like I said, now you coming from the hood, are 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.480 you making these records saying you know what, let me 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.760 make this for everybody to enjoy it. 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:09.000 This is okay. It's it's like opp was just a 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.560 song that was like it was gonna be a party song. 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.879 And when we came out before we were that, we 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.520 were a group called New Style. We knew we did 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:20.480 all the talent show circuits, so we were sick of 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:25.760 saying say oh scream, were like and basically the majority 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.320 of the records in the late eighties, when the hook 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.200 come on, it's just scratching. It's no right, no calling response. 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.359 So when the parties, we used to say shit and 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.040 say this back, like Dougie Fresh and Carris One like 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:41.160 blah blah blah, like get the crowd involved. So all 0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.520 my writing went into like making sure the crowd could 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.480 respond back, or you had a crowd doing it because 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.199 they're hearing it on the record when you go to 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:51.560 that show, So. 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:53.119 What what what? What what. 0:25:55.240 --> 0:26:01.040 That extra motherfucker? Everybody was Yeah, So you know, we 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:02.920 was like, we going, we gotta make it so it's 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.280 a it's a catchy hook on everything we we do, 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.679 even if it's like a hardcore record. But even even 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:13.120 even with that being said, even with not just the hook, 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.679 I mean even the sounds sound the global production, yeah production, 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.840 it sounded like y'all knew that, like like like it's 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.199 almost like I swould have got it. I don't want to. 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:26.440 I want to say this very carefully because that's almost 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.880 like what I got from Pac, right, Like Pac would 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:30.639 make these street records, but then he would make a 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.679 record that was just so globally everybody had to go 0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.320 and I feel like that's what what you guys did. 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.320 What you're saying as well is is facts. With the production, 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.800 it has to be a big and different. One thing 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.600 about I ever, everybody had the sound different. So that's 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.000 why the Gang of Us we still tour together and 0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.840 about we all had to sound different, and we have. 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.080 But with K's production and stuff on it, those were 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.359 g Yeah, those were different type of so even the writing, 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.960 A lot of times I had stuff written, but I 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:09.280 love to write off of beat and when I got them, 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.040 it's just I always say, like, motherfucking the beat, broe, 0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.920 that shit came there. But I'm always thinking of a hook, 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.600 and usually back then I will put the hook first. 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.960 I get a hook and write to it because I 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:29.840 hear the track and just be like, oh, heyl put 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.200 a hook first in write. 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.960 So because that's that's one of the craziest things about 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:41.600 your style is to me, it reminded me of almost 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:42.440 a drunken monkey. 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:44.919 Remember the old karate flicks, how the drunken Monkey. You 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.800 sit there and you think, like I was a monkey 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:51.280 that was drunking and fucking. That's perfect. 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.600 You you know, if you listen to it like your style, 0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.879 it's like you're going like this, and then a person think. 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.480 That they know what you're about to say. Then you 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.760 switch it up. It's like like like that's why I said, 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.160 you're one on one like flipping and I'm never on beat. 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.560 No no, no, you're on beat. No no, I mean I'm not. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.520 He's picking a different beat to the beat. Oh, I'm 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.280 like ryding on the saddle back. You're about to fill 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:22.480 the chronicles YONNL splitting, dismissing the morning, the mission of 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:24.639 just hitting now it was written and getting hitting with 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.720 miss which listen listening like something water by fishing, you know, 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:29.639 so it's like. 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:33.840 It's off, it's off. 0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:39.080 So yeah, it's like junking monk. Yeah, always like a 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.880 low like and again I look that you said that earlier. 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.280 That era, no one sounded like no one else. 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.720 You couldn't. You would get straight up no deal, you 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.160 couldn't perform. They'd be like that's a bitter nigga's whack, 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.280 but you couldn't look dressed sund nothing. Everything had to 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.280 be original. So I p's and q's we had to compete, 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:04.880 and we was from Jersey. If you wasn't from New York, 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.800 it was like fucking the extra pression. Yeah, so we 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:12.880 had to really put the material there and then let 0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.440 them know, like, yo, we we mean it's sufficient. 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.080 And what's crazy is making those type of global records 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:19.920 that became hits. 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.560 But he was still spitting crazy. Yes, it was like 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:27.920 you softened up the ricks to suit this always apartment 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:30.480 you off. I always thought Biggie took kind of took 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.480 that from yob like because y'all would say the foul ship, 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:42.160 the most beautiful beat and the most beautiful Yes, you know. 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:48.040 This record is really about you know, other people, Like. 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.600 I didn't realize, all right, the intro. I didn't realize 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.680 the intro was so foul like like yeah, like because 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.160 I always heard the record, but I didn't realize so 0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.960 very flagrantly disrespectful. 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.400 Yes, so how did y'all get away with that? 0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:09.720 I mean, the funny shit is it was just the decoding. 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.320 But if you listen to the record, like obp. You knew, like, 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.320 hold up this nigga's talking and you're spelling out the 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.200 letters always for this piece, for that bye bye bye oh, 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.840 that's other people's pussy, and the other thing you're spelling 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.760 it out is that's the other thing. Yo. It got 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.880 to the point them motherfuckers. I didn't curse on none 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.920 of the ships. I was saying, explaining nothing right, Yo. 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:36.800 They was blurn out and it rhymes with cleanings and 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:42.200 meanness clean mean, So you couldn't get penis the last 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.320 speak you feel me? So they was blurring out curse 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.560 words to play it. So we got away with it 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.600 cause niggas they just heard the hook boom and love 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.360 the flow. And it took like years. Were already fucking 0:30:55.440 --> 0:31:02.240 triple platinum. Nigga, Did you think that opp was gonna 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.880 go with it being what it was, what you were 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:05.520 talking about, did you think it was gonna go as far? 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:06.120 Now? 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.640 You you always want to make a hit, and then 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.760 when you put out some back then you had A 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.520 and r's and everything, the labels, they'll sit down and 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.880 everybody comes like, okay, we are all these songs right 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.520 on the paper, which one is your favorite? 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.320 Because we're gonna pick a single. 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.800 So everybody had like that in mind, Like opp was 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:30.240 that ship Shandy, that boom, that new era. It's turning 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.840 into the nineties, not that eighties sound in the nineties switched, 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.640 so it's perfect to ride off of that. So, like you, 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.000 we felt good about it, but we ain't know what 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:46.600 was gonna be in orbit, you know, worldwide, all the 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:52.120 whole planet, like nah. And on the Independent Tommy I. 0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:53.520 Was going. 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.200 I was going there. I was going there that very 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.040 next question, that's write my interview. 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.000 I got. 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:09.200 Yea, let's talk about that because Queen Latifa was on 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:16.360 Tommy BOYD people coolio digital under digital, undergrounds of pain, yep. 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:21.600 So I came into Tommy boy like later. But you 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:25.440 guys was already How was that experience because y'all had 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.680 to highlight y'all had the y'all had the epidemic of 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.000 you know, the we blew them up? 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.480 Yeah, wise like yes, So how was that? 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:35.600 Oh? 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.520 It was crazy. It was a love hate relationship. 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.840 With Tom Silman. Just the business of it. Okay, we 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:46.040 niggas right off the streets. So it takes a while 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.680 for you to separate the streets from the business. Because 0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:51.400 on the streets and handshake deal. 0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.040 And it's on it. 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.920 Then Ny could sign you signed some ship and it'd 0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.920 be some other ship. But it was never nothing like 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.320 that with us with Tommy because Latifa made sure we 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:06.040 was handled, got the We ain't get that feat or nothing. 0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.360 But when it came, it was like one time we 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.040 seen because we had our noughty gear. So he was like, Yo, 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.600 we want to put it on the sleeve with an 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.240 album like the albums and. 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:20.400 Yeah, we want to. 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.800 I don't think we could do that. Wow. 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:31.600 Then it's Tommy boy gear on our sleeve and with 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.880 the copy just with it wasn't on it. 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:43.040 I said, these motherfucker show. I got to prove a point. 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.960 So I went said these niggas some snakes and rats. 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.680 I went to the store and bought some snakes and rats, 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.200 what baby once pregnant, little mice and all the rest 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.880 of that ship. And I called up my homies and 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.520 we roll over to the office. So walk up there, 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.880 I'm like, where time. All the homies already know what 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.719 they gotta do. The little homies they pulling out all 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.480 you know, it's no cell phones. They pulling out all 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:17.200 the phone wires. But like, hey, knowing where's time. Chelsea's 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:22.160 not here, where's Monica? She's in the office. There's lunchtime too. 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.360 Came into lunchtime, these little hungry little baskets, these varmits. 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.719 I ain't feed them yet. I just started dropping them 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:34.080 all through the office. Boom, the motherfuckers. God's like, Monica, yeah, 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:34.560 trust me. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:35.560 I'm like, yo, y'all. 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.800 You see this ship, the cover y'all got y'all shipping, 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:38.279 not our ship. 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:39.040 What the fuck is going on? 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:40.160 I said, y'all, some. 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.440 Snakes and rats. Remember that. I'm just opening to let 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.960 all the rest of them out in there, she said, 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:45.640 tray over EU. 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.000 I just remember, tell Tom, y'all some snakes and motherfucking 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.520 rats walked out me and the homies. 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.000 Let you just hear screaming. She's like, what's that out there? 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.000 Why are you screaming? 0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.560 I'll just closing little behind and she walking behind her desk. 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.879 I hear her screaming, all the snakes and rats all over. 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.120 They locked me up, but they got They had our 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.879 motherfucking gear and the next ship. I'll tell you that much. 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:13.040 God dammit, No, no, they tried to. I got locked 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.640 up for tv T records when I. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.000 Thought I was ill by going to the Tommy Boy 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.160 and breaking blacks, broke snakes. 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.520 They had to move because it got totally infested. 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:31.160 The move buildings. 0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.640 They had to move buildings, they had to move out 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:34.320 the building. 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.759 I'll tell you what I did one time when they 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.200 didn't want to let me go. I had got the 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.640 account number for the food and I ordered one hundred 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.239 pieces every day, just every day. 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:51.920 I was just like, yeah, just up, Yeah, yeah, No 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:59.680 mileage hit them in the pockets in their own fucking 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.960 I didn't. We would show up like y'all want. But 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.480 you know what's crazy, turch I would love to ask 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.320 you this question because all of us as mcs like 0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.040 me just listening to your music, I know how I 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.239 can feel the love that you have for this. Did 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.360 you ever be disappointed when you realize the business of 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:25.960 this game is just fucking business. No, that's when a 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:33.480 few charges later and stuff like I started up. They 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.279 get this ain't the streets and it took me back. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.840 Were like flavor on it when we first we signed 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.960 up on it before Tommy Boy management. 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:50.759 Yeah, with you to management Bip, Yes, and we have 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.520 one of the biggest drug blocks in these starts. 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.520 Wow, did we make some noise for that? I feel 0:36:55.520 --> 0:37:03.279 like we should. Sorry, but we had to come to 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.839 the table and I'm like, listen, my niggas, we either 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.880 gotta do this hustle shit or this hip hop. We 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.120 can't do both, and we can't. The main thing was 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.799 on the mind. We can't taint my teeth for name right, 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.000 she putting us on. We didn't even have a label 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:26.200 deal yet. Yo. We gotta stop it and started and 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.960 we gave up the block found and did it that way. 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.440 So the same synopsis, it goes like, when you're in 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.360 the business, you gotta know, leave that street shit alone 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.520 and handle your business because if you do that shit 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.719 and bring it together, oh, it's gonna come back in 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:43.439 a bad way. 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:44.600 Right Yeah. 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.440 Yeah, man, shit, Luckily we avoided all that. Yeah, business 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.800 over bullshit. Look at us, We made right decisions. Fucked 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.680 up environment, yeah yeah. 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.080 You know our show was about giving people they flowers, 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.640 you know what I'm saying. So you know, I saw 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.200 you the other day and I particularly I asked you, 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:04.279 I I want you to. 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:04.879 Come on the show. 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:05.040 Now. 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:06.919 I know you've been on the show before the show 0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.399 has been blowing up so much and what we want 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.239 to do is give you your flowers face to face 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.000 man and man to tell you how great you are 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.840 because you are one of the grace. You are one 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:15.520 of the icons. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:16.200 Thank you coming with. 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:37.520 Yes, yes, yes, Nigga made my mom. Man. By the way, 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.520 is this something I also noticed the other night. I 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.400 don't think nobody could do it versus with you solo 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:49.360 or with the group. I just was looking at you. 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.000 I was just like, I don't think there's people out. 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.080 There that can fuck with y'all. 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.520 No, I'm you had your choice to do a versus 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.000 against a group, who would it be? Oh? Man, I 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.360 never even thought about because I always wanted whoever liked 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:06.200 to come up with it. 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.120 But and then the groups that I was thinking about, 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.040 they already did. 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:14.759 Versus cool like Bone and you know that's a good one, 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.359 even like Dipset like or like because it's a three 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.239 man you know, but just songs and hits back to back. 0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.840 And you know, it was just different groups. You know 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.800 what I was thinking about off top and from Jersey 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.840 to a little bit poochiez. 0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:35.279 Yeah, while you're always trying to get Jersey against. 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:44.800 Gonna think like that, but three man group, And I 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.239 thought like three three groups, we go after other monther 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.120 y'all against other motherfuckers. Let's think let's. 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.640 Another group though, all three man groups. 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:59.160 Cypress Hill, Cypress Hill, uh ONX used. 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.640 To be a three man group before. 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.480 When I said I next went because Sticky and fredile 0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:06.560 my niggas, he was even talking like, what if it 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:08.560 go they already. 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:14.600 You know, Brad Newbubian, that'd be crazy. 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.239 Run damn you better not say no motherfucking rundy nigg 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.080 fuck out of here, nigga. I ain't doing no fucking verses, 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:32.200 no niggasiggas different mag You can see them aout the 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.200 hip hop fifty there. I seen them for thirty fucking 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:39.680 years before I came out sneaking the contest. I ain't 0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.759 doing no versus and no fucking run. Day and see 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:46.040 the monsters in my hunks. Did you see Rad Kirsher 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:50.480 and all that nigga? He comes out and says, yeah, well, 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.440 let me tell all y'all, Son Red Run is not 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:59.720 in the motherfucking house today, Junya. Yeah, that's like stage 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.839 Press and all that I watched. I grew up off 0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.719 of hip hop. When I first started rhyming my rapid ship, 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.800 I was sound like a little l L and the 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:13.440 little cog rap then slick Rick like listen on like 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.480 opp hm opp how can I speain? 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:16.719 Man? 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.320 I tell you real swagger red and bird play and 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.160 boom my idols, all of them is in me. Kris One, 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:29.000 Chuck d Rock Him, Dick Daddy Kane like I'm like 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:34.240 all of these fools like like they was grand Master Cash, 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.759 Melly Mel all night right, yeah yeah. 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.120 And Harvard we just did Harvard. 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:50.200 Elly Mel Scorpio iced Tea Graham, Wizard, Theodore Africa Islam. Yeah. 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.640 We did a panel and performed up there in Harvard. 0:41:52.840 --> 0:42:02.239 That bar that's a baz Let's mesicated Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.719 Holy moly, guam, when did you know that you it 0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:12.520 was a sex symbol, a sex symbol ship because you 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.279 knocked down everything, you know. You what they called they 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.280 call nowadays they called it a sniper. 0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.399 Sniper, Yeah, sniper, y'all was knocking she was knocking ship 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:22.040 down trash. 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:26.960 Yeah yeah, but let me tell you son enough. Let me. 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:29.759 Let me. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.560 Once again. I gotta give props to the ladies, y'all. 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:38.320 Okay. 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.120 In the nineties, laser roll up, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:48.319 I got boom bump tonight, whoa, whoa, I'll be like, shit, 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:55.279 you so more records than me, but like they push 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:59.080 up and everybody hung out, you see, like it it 0:42:59.200 --> 0:42:59.879 was all hip hop. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:01.600 It wasn't a beast and nothing. 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.160 Everybody used to be hanging out and not even calling 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.799 each other, just there and it's just but you know, yeah, 0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:14.000 I was hot probably soon as that record hit video 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.440 juke Box, but the one you order, Yeah, okay, we 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.040 changed the whole program on how they did it before 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.440 every time You're ninety nine cents. You can see the 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.640 video opp was on twenty four hours. 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.400 A day, the film just saying okay people, was it just. 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.960 It basically burnt out the fucking whole line where it 0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:39.200 wasn't nothing but our ship playing because everybody was requesting it. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.600 But that was your official first hit. It was oppy, 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.960 Come on, I thought it was no forget it broke 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.600 records on MTV, right, yeah, because then we did the 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:53.520 song you know with MTV that was genius All of 0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:58.640 a sudden ed Love and GTV raps ed Love. Yeah, 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.920 big geez, wow, holy moly, glacka moly. What's what's your 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.880 favorite part of the business is it is it? Is 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.160 it making the music or performing the music? I mean both, 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.480 but the performance probably has got to be a different 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.560 highlight because you actually see the people like you. 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.320 You know that stage, that energy. 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.320 You feel high as you're like ooh, float you be 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:28.120 and they be singing. Yeah, that's a whole different like caliber. 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.239 So it's both because when you writing it, you now, 0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.480 we know we got some hot ship. We'll scratch out 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.359 the booty ship like now, but we know we're here, 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.160 we'll know we know what we're doing now. Man, just 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.600 seeing the people, just their reactions to you and the 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.560 majority of them now if they ain't our age, they ain't. 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.080 Never seen us before. In Harvard, the kids was like 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:53.840 and knew the songs. 0:44:53.880 --> 0:45:00.480 I was like in my head, great parenting, father playing 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:04.680 this ship, great parenting. That The one thing I noticed 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.200 about watching you performed the other night. And for those 0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:08.319 who that don't know, it was. 0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:13.600 Young MC who performed tone Loak, rob Based and Motherfuckering Tresh. 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.359 He made me perform like yeah, yeah, he brought him 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.200 out on his beat. 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:28.200 He's But one thing I noticed was every single boy, 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.520 like every single person had a stage presence, like they 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.520 had a part of the show where they was talking 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.960 to the crowd, the crowd talked back the crowd for 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.480 the part of the show. Show And what I'm trying 0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.560 to tell you people is like, it's appost one kid 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.239 right now has a hit record, and this record is 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.359 sixty million in the audience, and it's like so many 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.399 people may have heard this record more than these these 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.960 old school guys, these also guy but to still tell 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.719 that kid up on stage because sitting there and I'm 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.920 sitting there and I'm like, I like, for lack of 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.800 a better term, I just want to like not be 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.200 a rapper. I wanted to like look it as if 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.720 I was one of them. And as I'm sitting there, I'm. 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.320 Like, if if I didn't know hip hop, I was 0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.040 into this because they was like hey, everyone over there, 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.399 we raving your hands and people just waving their hands 0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.640 and like getting into it, like yo, people don't know right, 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.399 And I was just like, damn, that ship is lost 0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:22.800 in hip hop. Like if I go to see a 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:24.880 little dude perfore, but I expect to see him take 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.600 a purposet. I don't expect to see him go hey, who, Like. 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.080 I don't spect you know what on stage, on stage. 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:34.520 Yes, yes, that's the lean too. 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:41.520 Yeah. So the thing is we we come from average too, where. 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:47.279 We respect each other as artists hip hop artists, so 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.200 we know when we step on there, we it's competitive. 0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.200 We got to be the best motherfuckers out there now. 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.120 Everybody think they're the best and fucked then, so I 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.799 could do what I want right before we like yo, 0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.200 we want to be them. 0:46:59.000 --> 0:46:59.800 Motherfuckers do that. 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.400 Saw that ship and we watched everybody shows from before 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.759 we even came out. Nigga, we was going to New York. 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.760 I got fucked up a couple of times, and ship 0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.320 Niggas Brooklyn was snatching my motherfucking I ain't even have 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:14.440 motherfucking gold on. 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.120 Nigga had the leather fucking African past. 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:24.040 Y'all watch this, let me go. 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.000 But I stayed lumped up. 0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.120 But I seen the motherfucking show and study shows, and like, yo, 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:33.680 look at the crowd, look at what they doing, how 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.279 they singing, and everybody looked different, sound different, So you 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:42.800 you getting your own different swagon. And I just blended 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.640 all my favorites that I knew, all the albums and 0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.399 put it in morphed than the one. 0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:48.560 Yeah. 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:52.320 Remember that's the era of pre social media going viral, 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:54.759 and that era was hitting as many stages as you could. 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.839 So you do that, you gain experience and street ship. 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.799 When we got our first boxes of clothes, made up 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:06.040 and everything else, they by shut them up, got them y'all. 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:07.239 I took my motherfucking shit. 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.360 I went to New York to city and shit, I 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.400 just start handing out all this opp shirts to the homeless. 0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:15.680 Then go to Jersey, go to Brooklyn, go to all 0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:16.759 the homey It. 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:21.719 Was like, fuck, is this opp shit everywhere? Like the 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:22.760 Naughty by Nature? 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.880 What the fuck they selling drug? They thought we like 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:29.560 a drug crew by Nature? Opie, what's that dope? 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.879 Nah? Nigga shit? That was that hip hop though. Yeah, 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:37.840 but yeah, just promotion. It was no social media, no nothing. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:40.840 We had to hit the streets. And Tommy Boy was 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:43.600 a great label with a great street team. But and 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.480 they open doors showed them independent labels and big labels. 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:50.359 You gotta have a street team. But yeah, now you've 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:56.960 been in mad movies. Yeah yeah, yeah, HollyHood Jesus Latifa 0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:01.160 said you ain't just gonna be rapping lane, So that 0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:02.960 was Lati that points you in that direction. 0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:06.680 Yeah, definitely definitely off top. 0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.320 So let's let's let's take it from from Juice. 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:11.200 Yeah, how did you get that? 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:11.560 Was that? 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:12.520 Was this your first role? 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.680 Yeah? Yeah yeah Latifa, Like I said, she set the 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:18.439 whole ship up from like you're gonna start acting. 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:22.160 So got this this movie Juice? Go read for you? 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:25.920 Was riding as homie? Yeah, no, I was reading for Bishop. 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.360 You was supposed to be Bishop. No, I wasn't supposed 0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:37.759 to be. I read nigga who got it? But yeah, 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:44.919 I read for that motherfucker. I'm like and uh still, yeah, 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:47.960 I'm reading this ship. I can't. It's like, thank you 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.040 for coming before the closed the door. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.680 I'm like, man, I ain't get that ship. So we chilling. 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.400 Pock is out here and then he like, yo, I 0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.040 got reading for this. I didn't get it yet. No, 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:01.879 he got to read and for this ship. I'm like, cool, 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.239 I'm going I'm gonna go with you because I just 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:08.840 read for it. He go up in that motherfucker giver 0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.799 sid motherfucker. I ship going all over. 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:12.880 I'm running towards the door. 0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:14.520 I'm like this nigga got in to a fighting. 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:16.600 He come out. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.080 I'm like, yo, what's up? He was like I just 0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:19.600 read for it. 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:23.520 I said, nigga, you got you mother. So Park did 0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:25.120 the heart he had. 0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.000 He was like, you know, my nigga, I could get 0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:29.839 you in this movie. You come with me every day, 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:35.160 extras and stuff you you can have. I'm like, all right, 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.319 fuck it, but I can't be going back and forth 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.759 from Jersey and no stay with me. So me he 0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.160 had he had one bedroom hotel suite. It was me 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:54.480 ed lover Mopreme Doe stretched from Live Squad Queens. Yeah, 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.719 we was in the wrong bop d Yeah. We all 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.399 slept in the couch in the chick is and las. Yeah, 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:13.040 we wasn't sleeping with each other like that like you. Yeah, 0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:26.120 so waking up going to juice yo. No, then every 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.520 day I went on there. So they just so happened. 0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:34.319 Park talk to Ernest Dickison. He was like, yeah, all right, 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.040 put them over there with ride them a nigga, Park 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:41.600 like they all Puerto Rican. How you gonna be with them? 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:44.640 I said, nigga for this movie. Tell them niggas. I'm 0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:47.960 Washington Heights nigga. 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:50.680 The Spanish Games. 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.759 I ain't no lives anyway, I have to say, I ain't. 0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:00.560 They ain't get me ship. I just was an enforcer. Know, 0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:06.720 you didn't say not a word. Yeah, my million girls 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:12.640 with my minion greens. They said, acting is too learn 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.799 how to say your lines without saying them. So when 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.920 you do saying, you're facing is like you like Sammy Jackson, 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.840 these motherfuckers. Joe, that nigga, he was in juice. You 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.120 know what I'm saying, Jackson, Oligia, you done slid down 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:28.640 the razor blade and landing in the alcohol river. 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.520 He said, I ain't no killer. You know me since 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:33.720 I was a kid, I know a lot of killers 0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:38.600 since the kids. Goddamn. Yeah, y'all. So he was in there, 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:40.120 so I got me in there. 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:43.120 But Pop made sure I was in the movie because 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.959 I read for that ship and I definitely wasn't kidding. Wow. 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.360 Yeah, facts, Now this is one of the movies that 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:54.160 fucked me up that you was in. The media man, Yeah, 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.280 Robert Townsend, media man, that was good. 0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:58.040 Nah. 0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.399 We was Crips and the other bloods from the gang 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:02.120 that was with us. 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.239 I mean yeah, they was. It was Cypus Hill. We 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:06.640 was against Cyprus Hill in there. 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:11.640 But yeah, the name is blood in there. You're wrong, now, 0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:21.960 I I but yeah, Robert Townsend. 0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:23.560 Yeah, Jesus, A lot. 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:25.200 Of people didn't a lot of people don't know how 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:27.239 talented Robert Townsend was. 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:28.560 The first Tyler Perry. 0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.919 Yes he was. He wasn't Robert Howson. 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:32.680 It probably wouldn't be a Tyler Perry. He was our 0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:34.719 Spike Lee before that Lee. 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:35.080 Yeah. 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.200 Yeah, he got all of our great directors and everything. 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:39.160 He was bringing ship. 0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:43.640 He was before and Living Color doing his Off the 0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:46.279 Wall committee. So he opened that door for on Living 0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.640 Color because they was like, what yo, this' motherfucker ignorant. 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:53.320 It was like, yeah, yeah, Now he was also in 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:54.480 Jason's lyrics. 0:53:54.800 --> 0:54:06.800 Yeah, yeah, keep Jaden name out your mother. That was 0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:12.320 my little sister, Jada Pinker, Alan Payne, Bolking woodbind, Eddie Griffin, 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:17.000 Leased in the Cold, Carson Crazy, Forrest Whittaker, Suzanne Douglas, 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:18.320 Resting p Piece. 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:19.000 You know. 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:25.000 So it was a deep, deep cast of fun. That 0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:26.680 ship I had to move to. 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:31.080 I moved to Houston, Uh, rest in piece of the 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:35.480 little Varmint fucking Bushwick Bill. So I moved down there 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.320 and I said, I gotta go. I'm staying in the wards. 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:40.840 Shout out the Prince, Prince Jay. You know. 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.560 They had me covered down there Willie d Brad. 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.279 So if you look like on the when he says Brad, 0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:49.960 he talking about scarce scarface, everybody's not. 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:59.560 Bradster scar face over here. Man, All right, well that's okay, but. 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.160 This is if And this time I know I never 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:03.400 really did a real movie. You see how he just 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:05.839 named all the people that's in the movie method man 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:10.680 did that everybody. I've never done that before. No, because 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.839 you just don't give a funk. You're not naming nobody else. 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.160 You know your I was in this movie. It was 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.960 name and you know I did my thing. My role 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.319 was anything he ain't giving got. I got state raperty too. 0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:25.440 That's it. Like, hey, man, me and be shot and 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:31.399 you had the money. I would love to have them, 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:36.200 and then they cut my head off. I wasn't one. 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.200 I forgot the name of them all. I got all 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:42.560 your movies. It was it was a yeah, the nigga 0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.839 always get killed and the motherfucker harflick. You know that right? 0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:46.239 You were? 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:48.560 You were one blood too? Yeah? 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:54.040 Yeah, you be loving that blood word. You never do blood. 0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.320 Let me tell you he's just red Fox. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.000 Wait hold on you in a movie called Yeah, that's 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.640 the way I got killed. That That is mother fucking goddamn. 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:13.440 What's the motherfucking god damn for Copra, That motherfucker killed me, 0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:16.200 you know, like the first two minutes, that's a wait, 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:17.919 did the Cheba kill you? Yeah? 0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:30.319 Copall crazy? Do you believe in gott Man? You don't 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:33.880 believe in sa squats? Don't believe in believe I actually 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.480 believe in sasquat, So hold on, hold on. 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.040 That's like a little racist to your own generation. Yeah, 0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:42.520 you just you believe in sad squash, but not shasquash. 0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:46.000 That's the Puerto Rican sasquash. They seem over. 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:53.360 Sasquash. Man, that is the that's a bad squad. But 0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:57.560 listen at first, only Latino segob That's why I ain't 0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:57.960 gonna lie. 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.279 Only like the white folks gonna see so squad, how 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.279 mean niggas is in the mountains and. 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:14.680 Seas, gonna see that ship thinking this ship all right? 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:21.440 Do you believe in niggars? No, no, no, it's couguars. 0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:26.920 There's jaguars and there's niggars. Nigger we see niggars to 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.720 mother fuckers, don't see it like us, like as I've 0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:32.960 never seen no niggas, yo, I seen something on online 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.440 the other day, this black guy in China and he 0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.760 goes on the beach and everyone is taking selfies of 0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.600 him because they've never seen the black guy on a 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:42.360 Chinese beach. 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:48.080 It really exists, drained in Vietnam. When we went to Vietnam, everybody. 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:49.840 Wanted to take pictures of Drink though he was Scotti Pippen. 0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:51.360 He was a basketball player. 0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:56.880 He got a lot of out there. I know he 0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:58.680 got some babies over there. Mother. 0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.680 Yeah, they thought he was Scotti. 0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:06.720 But before we get off to Jason lyric thing, and 0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:12.040 I know you played with it earlier, but no one 0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.840 is a judge Jada and Wills you know thing right? 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:20.520 I mean if anybody found out by now, they know 0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:24.600 what they're doing, yeah, and covering each other through any 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:27.240 a thing. So who business is it but this? 0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:31.000 Or But it's unless he bring my name up, right, 0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:40.120 But it's like this is that was? But it'd be 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:41.920 looking like But. 0:58:42.000 --> 0:58:44.760 If I believe in spirits, right, which sometimes I do, 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:45.960 I'm not definitely believe. 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:48.440 In spirits and alcohol right, but yeah for sure, but 0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:49.040 I drink. 0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:55.200 But is Poc stalking Jada and his death or is 0:58:55.360 --> 0:59:00.680 Jada stalking pac in his death. I think Jada is 0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:06.439 stalking Park and Park is coming back stalking to funk 0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:06.960 with them all. 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.640 Yes, if you believe in God or anything else or 0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:19.640 any guy like you believe, it's spirits, So you supposed 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:23.120 to believe. Yes, I believe they're in an entanglement, right. 0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:32.080 And Jada? Yes, yes, entagment, Yes, yes, definitely, it's got deep, yes, 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.120 just got deep. Yeah, this is how we talk on 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.800 the blocks. My family for sn L something that lend 0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:42.560 in south Side. That's right, that's right. That you got 0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:43.440 Queen's translations. 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:44.960 You already know this family. 0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:48.080 I'm gonna be honest. This is probably the worst blunt 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.600 ever rolled. But i'ma be honest. Nor Bad wrote, Yeah, 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:52.720 you're not a roll. 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:53.000 See. 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:55.520 I was home alone and I went through my clothes. 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.720 And when I went through my clothes, I found Paris hash. 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.360 And I don't know if you know Paris other than 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:07.480 what is it Morocco. Morocco has the best hash. So 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:10.040 I put half of this ship in this blunt right here. 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.440 I don't know. So now you're trying to explain your actions. 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.920 I don't know what how do you say? 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:20.600 I don't know if it's gonna translate. I don't know 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:22.800 if there's a translation right here. You gonna smell it. 1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:27.280 Let me, it's about five minutes left in his interview. 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.800 I'm gonna take so I would. 1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.800 Trying to bound some old ass has old ass ship 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.520 is seat. That's like why I was mad at Redman 1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.600 because he he had found the old battle Branson and 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.320 he wouldn't smoke it. I wanted to smoke it with him. No, 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:43.480 he wanted to smoke it by himself. That creep of ship, 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:49.120 that's my That motherfucker is dirty nigga. He wanted to 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:50.600 smoke that ship farf. 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.600 I used to hate that nigga when we was younger. 1:00:57.760 --> 1:01:04.440 Tell yeah, nigga, this right here, this is these stars, 1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:05.040 this North. 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:07.080 He lived right there. I live right here. 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:09.720 Just because he was from North, I was the stars 1:01:09.720 --> 1:01:12.680 because at that time North niggas was like Brooklyn. They 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:17.000 come everywhere robing niggas. So nigga hated North niggas. But 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:19.160 he was just like right there, and we was little, 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:21.520 but we ain't like each other. 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:24.840 Wow, So when did you finally connect with him? 1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:28.640 Then? No? Actually it probably was at the park because 1:01:28.680 --> 1:01:31.560 we used to Uh, the older heads never let us 1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:32.600 shoot basketball. And ship. 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:34.479 So we used to just run and take the ball 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:36.560 and go all the way across. So you said you 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.920 didn't like them as kids for real legit kids. 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:43.280 Yeah yeah, it's a little niggas before records of anything. 1:01:44.120 --> 1:01:48.520 But through hip hop Stop saved the world on like 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:51.600 shit I started. I was like, I like that nigga 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:59.360 motherfucker mother the same ship about me. I know, I 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:01.960 was rocking. Yeah, hip hop translation. 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:08.680 Reggie Noble, Okay, first time felling, let's talk about that. 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:13.560 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Del Roy Lindo was in there, 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:18.160 Charles Dunton was in there, Omar Apps. Uh. It was 1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:21.880 basically a story of us being locked up in a 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:25.240 boot camp type environment first time felling if you fuck 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.920 up and were from Chicago, so he was a. 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.520 VL vice lord. I was the GD. 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:34.560 So we met up and was rivals in the pen 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:39.560 and if anybody fucked up before that time you had, 1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:41.680 you was gonna go straight to the pen instead of 1:02:41.760 --> 1:02:42.440 being released. 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.800 So we filmed that. Also. 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:51.720 Clifton Powell was in there. My ex wife, I got 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:55.440 her role in there. Cool, yeah she was. She was 1:02:56.200 --> 1:03:00.760 Clifton Powell's girl. Yeah yeah, you know, HollyHood, I ain't 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:05.320 gonna lie. At one point saw Pepper was like Beyonce 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:06.320 and Kelly Rowling. 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:07.160 Yeah. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:08.200 Ship. 1:03:09.800 --> 1:03:13.480 Everybody was like the bag. Everybody was like what that 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:13.960 was one? 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:18.880 Like on the wall? Yeah, I think I saw Pepper 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:21.200 on my I wasn't in DJ, but the finals I 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:23.720 used to cut him out in front of the back 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:27.120 and tack him on my wall all all the albums. 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:28.920 Now, I was a little nigga and then you backed up. 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:31.080 I immediately didn't like Pepper no more. I was like, 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:31.960 trench got her. 1:03:40.720 --> 1:03:43.720 You know what redeeped it? Redeeped it was Kenny Anderson 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:50.040 from Leaft rock City Brother. I was like, then I 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:50.800 forgot who saw it? 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:52.040 Got with Gavin. 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:55.440 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay okay. But like 1:03:55.520 --> 1:03:59.000 I said, and saw Pepper album. I haven't seen them 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:02.280 in a long time, but you know they are. They 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:04.560 are the queens of hip hop. They are. I've seen 1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:06.480 them the other day doing I don't know if this 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:09.960 is will Smith thing and someone asks like, why did 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:10.560 you relate? 1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:12.640 Why did the girls relate to you so much? As 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:15.800 she said, because we really was around the way girls me. 1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:18.600 I only saw them on TV. To me, they were 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:19.720 not around the way girls. 1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:24.080 To me, they were like Mecca, Well to me, I 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.560 mean the princesses, the queen, Why I'm not going to 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.600 see you as shirt kings. It's not You're in a 1:04:29.800 --> 1:04:31.840 whole different year. I'm not going to see you with 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:32.440 them all. 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:33.960 Like y'all is different. 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:34.280 Ie. 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:36.560 They don't be the corner I'm looking at. 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:40.200 They don't look like you exactly exactly. 1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:41.600 So how did that happen? 1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:42.920 How did No? 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.600 It was just hip hop like certain I think it 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:49.400 was like, uh spring break said. 1:04:54.520 --> 1:05:00.800 What I'm saying. No, it was like MTV raps down 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:04.480 in Miami. Everybody used to come down anything else. So 1:05:04.600 --> 1:05:07.200 I like met the first time, like down there and 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.760 just was kicking in anything else. You know. I pushed 1:05:09.880 --> 1:05:12.560 put my thing on feeling I'm trying to lean on 1:05:12.680 --> 1:05:15.640 the record, Celles, I got out the mother did you 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:18.880 have to braids? Okay, that's before my headline was allergic 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:27.040 to my you coming at me? Yeah, Oh it's funny. Uh. 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:30.280 Scorpio said that the at the PANDU in Harvard. 1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:32.920 He said, yeah, yeah, you know, trust you're one of 1:05:32.960 --> 1:05:34.400 the original Brady Bunch. 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:39.760 Yeah, oh ship big, I love it. Ye, Holy ship Man. 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:42.440 Because like and at that time, for lack of a 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.880 better term, like y'all were like the J and beyond 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:49.640 like hip hop, like like J and beyon mixed with 1:05:49.720 --> 1:05:51.080 a little bit of Bobby and Whitney. 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:53.400 No, it wasn't Bobby. 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:08.240 Whitley for me songs my nigga, So nigga, that's that's brother. 1:06:09.080 --> 1:06:13.320 But no, no, no, Jay and Beyonce was up. 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:14.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 1:06:15.040 --> 1:06:17.200 I'm not serious. I'm not I'm not even assassinating. 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.400 No, we can't believe it was. I believe that was 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:23.880 the first the first power. Let me tell you something 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:27.680 and I'm all fucking mentioned me in Morristown where we 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:28.480 got married. 1:06:29.560 --> 1:06:32.040 Reverend Run married dust nigga. 1:06:35.960 --> 1:06:42.200 Excuse me, excuse me like home like official tissue that. 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:46.360 Part niggas getting doctor Umarter married him right, the real doctor. 1:06:46.480 --> 1:06:48.880 It is real doctor. Where you at? 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:04.080 Yeah? 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:06.440 The cameras catching on. 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:13.440 He did you invest money with Flipper n J? And 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:15.280 did you envy? Huh? 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:17.840 Did you invest money with clip where you all this? 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:24.600 If you got how do you pay him? We can't 1:07:25.880 --> 1:07:28.880 let it be know this is me in court all 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:37.000 the time. The fifth you know you can't Now did 1:07:37.040 --> 1:07:39.200 you see him most yesterday, He's like, do you. 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:41.080 Want my first interview to be with drinks? Chance? 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:44.240 Did you hear about like, well, MB is supposed to 1:07:44.280 --> 1:07:46.720 be out of it, but he has his partner from 1:07:46.840 --> 1:07:47.320 New Jersey. 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:50.960 You know how y'all get that down together? Yeah, that's 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:54.960 what you want to say. You're sticking with You're sticking 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:55.360 with him. 1:07:56.320 --> 1:07:57.680 Man, did you hear about this case? 1:07:57.960 --> 1:07:58.000 No? 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.360 Okay, no good beast case with it? Yeah? 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:03.800 Yeah, yeah, I definitely heard about it. Yeah, because like 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.240 most of the people like invested, so I was just 1:08:06.320 --> 1:08:09.200 asking what you want to them or no? Hell no, nigga. 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:14.160 On certain things, I faxed them their money, right, did 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:20.840 you ever receive? But I faxed him their money this ship. 1:08:23.800 --> 1:08:25.280 They can't cast that fact. 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:30.680 I'm faxed some money, nigga. Man, tell me if it 1:08:30.800 --> 1:08:35.200 worked and paid me Forget a couple more movies, Oh, 1:08:35.200 --> 1:08:40.360 because this one is interesting because I was supposed to 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:43.040 be in this movie actually bodyguats Bond. 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:46.280 Yeah word yeah yeah. 1:08:46.600 --> 1:08:49.639 And the guy that was actually acting was the director, 1:08:49.800 --> 1:08:52.560 the funder, the producer member of the White Guy that 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:54.920 he moved to the Bronx with the stories. 1:08:54.680 --> 1:08:57.800 About everybody had like one scene in that movie. Really 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:02.200 they don't give me my one scene. You ain't sure. 1:09:02.560 --> 1:09:04.519 I don't know. I don't think they called He was 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:07.360 almost in the movie, was almost in the movie, and 1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:13.960 they took my role. Say you seen mis Dominican and 1:09:14.040 --> 1:09:15.080 Juice killed it. 1:09:15.520 --> 1:09:18.320 Listen, I've been going for that ship after Juice. 1:09:18.360 --> 1:09:20.519 So I'm like, man, I could play some Spanish niggas. 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:22.880 I'll take all these niggas roles. 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:25.640 Nigga, I'm gonna mist for all of ye know. But 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:28.760 at that time, when you when you're out like you 1:09:28.840 --> 1:09:31.640 ain't even got audition for ship, they just call you. 1:09:31.800 --> 1:09:35.120 I'm like, fuck it here, it's a low budget. We 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:35.960 ain't got what you got. 1:09:36.760 --> 1:09:39.200 All right, day, I'll be out there all right, come on, 1:09:39.479 --> 1:09:43.240 let's do it. So that's when you know I had 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:46.200 a couple of those. Okay, I'm gonna skip around a 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:48.160 little because you've got a load a lot of movies. Yeah, 1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:51.840 now you're also an Empire. Yeah yeah, Fat Joe, Fat 1:09:51.920 --> 1:09:54.519 Joe and that John Joe got killed very fast. 1:09:54.960 --> 1:09:56.880 No, he did, didn't even be talking. 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.240 Said kill you ask quicker than I did in the 1:10:00.280 --> 1:10:00.920 Empire movie. 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:06.599 That's he was killing niggas quick. Then said didn't make sense. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:12.200 Joe Joe Empire. That game, Like you. 1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:14.439 Said, quicker than him killing people. 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:16.519 He meant he died fast. No he ain't. 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:21.679 He was what do you expect? Yeah, they was running 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:24.000 the ship. In the Bronx there was like four families 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.799 and Joey was one of them. He ain't died no earth, Okay, 1:10:27.960 --> 1:10:31.639 my bad. Joe crack I went to dining with him 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:36.519 last night. Another one, see I told you, Yeah, Yeah, 1:10:36.600 --> 1:10:38.760 my name was Cheddar. In there, Cheddar I had the 1:10:38.840 --> 1:10:42.599 biggest system in the projects, speakers bigger than I had, 1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:45.720 more more speakers than funditure I had in that motherfucker 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:47.040 eyes in the d. 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:55.360 The Lost Book of Rap. Mm hmm, let's talk about that. 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:57.519 I mean that ship. 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:04.920 I don't even remember. It sounded like a document or 1:11:05.000 --> 1:11:09.360 something like you telling me was the next question, like, 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:13.519 what the fuck is that? Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to 1:11:13.640 --> 1:11:16.519 keep it funky. I'm not gonna find like yeah, yeah 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:22.720 that was my best Yeah, okay, that definitely wasn't the 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:26.000 porn man, No, that's a movie too. Think. 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:29.960 Hey, man, I was getting money all over in the nineties. 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:31.519 You want to talk about it, man, that's makes the 1:11:31.600 --> 1:11:32.000 choice back. 1:11:36.000 --> 1:11:38.960 I said, I was making money off of porns. 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:43.000 For Porne okay, holy Ship and because Jersey they used 1:11:43.000 --> 1:11:47.000 to have the big porn factories, yeah, they said John 1:11:47.840 --> 1:11:48.960 John documentary. 1:11:49.040 --> 1:11:51.200 Yeah, like no, no, where they made the poor the 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:51.840 actual Paul. 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:54.840 You know they have porn factories in the neck where 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:55.800 they make the porn. 1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:58.680 Yeah, John told you. He was saying, like porn like 1:11:58.760 --> 1:12:00.719 we just had a gang a whole was getting fucked 1:12:00.760 --> 1:12:04.519 in every fucking other condo and and then death. Not 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:04.840 like that. 1:12:05.320 --> 1:12:08.920 He did know in factory. Nigga, I'm like, nigga. He's 1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:11.560 still like nigga. I'm like I was about like, I'm like, 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:12.759 I'm a factor. 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:14.080 He's like, what is. 1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:16.320 Where they made? 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:21.320 Correct me? I keep going, you gotta correct me, Ship, 1:12:21.479 --> 1:12:23.080 I just made this nigga. 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:28.000 Like every day talking with me. That's right, don't mind. 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:31.719 Okay, I'm bouncing around and didn't go back to the music. 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:36.040 This is one More Baseball Wives two thousand and two. 1:12:36.560 --> 1:12:38.639 You a call TV movie? 1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:42.759 Yeah they did that. That was like a I forgot 1:12:42.800 --> 1:12:45.760 a lot of people that was in there. But it 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:49.000 was like you're doing a confession, like if you was 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:52.599 at like a couple's therapy like this girl now rating 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:53.640 through the movie and all that. 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:57.759 That was like, I like that because I wasn't playing 1:12:57.800 --> 1:12:59.559 a gangster, you know what I mean? 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:02.880 It makes I could switch up and you other ship 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:07.479 like all the War three shout out to Wesley. Yeah 1:13:07.560 --> 1:13:11.640 he yeah, he had hit the franchise, so he did 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:13.600 one and two and then they put him in that 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:14.400 federal pen. 1:13:15.240 --> 1:13:18.519 So he let me do part three. So c I 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:19.519 a operative? 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:22.439 Were you supposed to do Blade too? No? 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:28.240 I wish ship? Yeah, blade trade Wes he wes how me? 1:13:28.280 --> 1:13:32.960 How may you hear that? Yeah? I mean not not yet. Yeah, 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:36.840 but I did do New Jack City Live the in 1:13:37.080 --> 1:13:38.920 theater as Nino Brown. 1:13:44.520 --> 1:13:45.479 See about of that as well. 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:53.000 Yeah, well Caine is big Daddy Kane flex Flexander's Alexander. Uh. 1:13:54.400 --> 1:14:00.640 Tory Hart Okay, it's like it's it's Alan Payne to originally. 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:05.160 Yeah money. Oh I thought I thought Kevin Hart had 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:07.160 a brother we know about. No, Tory Hard is his 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:11.280 ex wife. Okay, okay, she's a comedian, she said, Kesha 1:14:11.720 --> 1:14:15.840 rock a bye baby. Oh really Kevin Hart's ex wife. Yeah, 1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:17.519 she's a comedian. Yeah. 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:18.240 And the actress. 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.000 Oh how does they arguments go in the household? Well, 1:14:21.080 --> 1:14:25.479 it's ex so they ain't in the household. Two comedians. Yeah, 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:29.360 oh it got really Oh we got real. They said 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:32.840 some under the cut. She always laughed at comedian to 1:14:32.920 --> 1:14:35.400 fuck you up. You don't want beef with no comedian 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:37.719 got Tim Pat Poof. 1:14:37.840 --> 1:14:40.000 You'd be like, yo, they be arguing about Cirio in 1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:43.080 the morning, like you pass the bowl cerrialmy ma and 1:14:43.160 --> 1:14:47.120 Pat poofs like they battle rapping, like yes to make breakfast. 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:53.240 That's dope in my mind, I'm making this up. Yeah, yeah, well. 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:56.479 That's not funny. Two comedians married andything like that word. 1:14:56.720 --> 1:14:58.479 Yeah, I think somebody killed one another. 1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.559 You know, you can't make a good ass nigga stuffing 1:15:01.640 --> 1:15:04.840 back at you all day. I feel the type way. Oh, 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:07.560 that's probably why they got divorced. How did you and 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:12.840 Pepper argue? Nigga? I argue by motherfucking and going out 1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:15.680 and getting some pussy. Nigga. You can't tell that's your 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:17.240 wife is stretching. 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:25.560 Argument, man, you got hold on. We had a different relationship. 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:29.160 We boret bitches in you know what I'm saying. 1:15:29.240 --> 1:15:35.800 So I was gonna. I was like, I understand this 1:15:36.040 --> 1:15:44.439 baby very back. I was like, that's a that's a 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:47.360 that's a that's a meaning relationship. No, no, it was 1:15:47.400 --> 1:15:50.639 all we all had to understanding on me and there wow. 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:53.760 Yeah yeah, I don't even want to elaborate on that 1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:55.479 man's facts. 1:15:55.600 --> 1:15:59.519 Our honeymoon in Hawaii, coner, nigga, we bore our bitch 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:03.960 out there. Jesus Christmas, you feel, I mean. 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:08.160 Facts before MAUI is this niggas not. 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:10.760 Give me a different. 1:16:12.880 --> 1:16:17.840 You know thinking drinking? 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:27.439 No, no, damn no, that's real, that's real, this. 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:31.040 Nigga no keeping it down yea? So many stories Yeah no. 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:34.599 No, not though, bro, Like the other day, I got 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:38.479 to witness something like that, like you know where a 1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:40.800 person has a whole separate. 1:16:40.560 --> 1:16:43.479 Family and that's all the understanding. There's no beef, there's 1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:46.120 no none of that like that ship is. That's that's amazing, 1:16:46.800 --> 1:16:49.800 that's amazing. I never had separate families though, No, no, 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:55.840 no separate or divorced. Then I had two babies same 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:58.439 age and then two year late, two babies saying and 1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:03.880 they not twins. Let's make your noiser, not twins. I 1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:06.080 got a couple of non twins. Yeah yeah, you know 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:11.320 after that, we lose we was uh spreading our raw 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:13.800 old so like they say, and coming to America. 1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:15.679 Right, I buyd you radio Ross? 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:19.000 Did you ever get your heart broken? Hell? Yeah? Then 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:22.040 and I start pimping like right the fuck up nigga, 1:17:22.120 --> 1:17:25.639 like pimp bitch or don't like pimping, like just bitch, 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.000 fuck you bitch and bow you got money for me? 1:17:28.120 --> 1:17:32.040 And nah, you know, bros was cold like back in 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:34.800 our days, Like it was never like a such thing 1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:38.120 as like an older nigga fucking with a high school 1:17:38.160 --> 1:17:41.320 girl because the drug dealers was lined up outside and ship, 1:17:41.439 --> 1:17:43.920 so all the good girls that was bad nigga, they 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:46.880 had them nigga, and I was trying to rap and Nigga, 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.639 I can I ain't have a job at the fucking time, bitch, 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:53.760 I can't afford you type ship. And then once I 1:17:53.880 --> 1:17:55.640 seen a girl I want, I ain't never even go 1:17:55.720 --> 1:18:00.400 to a prom because they wanted the niggas that was active, 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:04.560 you know, and had boom nigga. Seeing one of my 1:18:06.320 --> 1:18:08.800 homies that I ain't funk with no more, she knew 1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:11.559 and fuck with him. I was like, it's over. I'm 1:18:11.600 --> 1:18:12.439 down with O p P. 1:18:12.720 --> 1:18:13.000 Nigga. 1:18:14.280 --> 1:18:16.280 Is that how you came up because somebody else took 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:16.759 your pussy? 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.560 Nah, I'm asking, no, I'm asking. 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:25.160 You had pussy taking from everybody, had everybody. That's what 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:26.559 turned us into the horse. 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:27.240 We were. 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:31.840 Like, you ain't a man unless someone to give you 1:18:32.120 --> 1:18:34.000 you learn that and give you that turtle shell. 1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:35.719 Yeah, they give you that shell. 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:38.640 Like now you you oh, you ain't getting me like 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:41.240 that because you know what it was at first, remember 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:43.840 being in the hood, you always had the fast girls, 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:48.000 right and the fast girls was like yeah, but then 1:18:48.320 --> 1:18:49.880 we would be like, we don't want to mess with her. 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.080 She messages with everybody. But then everybody turned. They had 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:55.120 like maybe you ain't get a little peace, you know 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:57.960 what I meant, little face, and then you get hurt. 1:18:58.120 --> 1:18:59.200 With me after that too. 1:18:59.640 --> 1:19:04.200 I ever had like a girl like you know, I 1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:07.839 smashed a couple of but that I had any feelings 1:19:07.920 --> 1:19:11.360 for pet and all my baby mamas they pat from 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:14.879 Queens and she's just making my other two bay mamas 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:17.320 rest in peacele Chandras. She was Puerto Rican from the 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:21.360 Bronx Dominican and my wife now she's like, but it's 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:25.080 like all that right there. It was. 1:19:25.200 --> 1:19:26.559 It was just in house. 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:29.360 She said, Puerto Rican the Bronx. Yeah, me not fucking 1:19:29.439 --> 1:19:31.840 with nobody in the hood. So bitch, ain't gonna hurt 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:35.120 my heart like that again, fucking nigga, I no get back. 1:19:35.040 --> 1:19:36.120 Hold on, let me just get it straight. 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:40.640 Porto Rican from the bron Yeah, the queens, yeah, Dominican 1:19:40.760 --> 1:19:43.160 from the bron and my wife now she's from Ohio. 1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:46.439 I up front, I feel like you got stabbed at 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:47.160 a lot of times. 1:19:48.400 --> 1:19:49.919 Stabbed that like they was trying. 1:19:49.680 --> 1:19:50.120 To stab you. 1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:51.960 Because I feel like the Porto Rican from the Bronx 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:53.200 try to stab you at one point. 1:19:53.320 --> 1:19:55.360 No, they thought I was Dominican nigga. 1:19:56.400 --> 1:20:05.360 I'm not going but real nigga, I ain't playing. But 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:09.439 let me change the subject up. But God really going 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:12.000 to the bron had the relatives that that love me. 1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:15.680 But whenever I go somewhere for it was legal. Who 1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:19.280 got the weed? Right? Niggas? Five different niggas hustling. I'm 1:20:19.840 --> 1:20:26.240 buying out off the top, making this ship back by nature. 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:34.280 So I'm in cool and right. 1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:36.439 So try something that I'm bouncing around a little bit. 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:40.000 But I remember back in the days when you was 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:44.680 an artist, the police didn't pull you over. I mean 1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:46.600 at one point it was like it was hold on, 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:48.479 let me finish me make my point. It was like 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:51.080 it was like kind of like respect right, the drug 1:20:51.160 --> 1:20:53.120 dealers will protect you. You know what I'm saying that 1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:56.760 people would and queens I'm talking about. Yeah, I was 1:20:56.800 --> 1:20:57.439 definitely saying. 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:04.960 Not in Jersey. Well, okay from this Wes Grimy. 1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:07.040 Like I said, we had one of the biggest drug 1:21:07.120 --> 1:21:10.320 blocks in East arm police ain't fuck with us. Then, 1:21:11.240 --> 1:21:13.800 Nigga police ain't fuck with us after we got out 1:21:14.439 --> 1:21:15.280 in our own hood. 1:21:15.840 --> 1:21:18.840 They ain't even fuck with us like today, like me me, 1:21:19.479 --> 1:21:19.920 you know what I mean? 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:20.240 Then? 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:23.000 Know, you know people in the city all all that problems, 1:21:23.000 --> 1:21:23.599 shit or whatever. 1:21:24.640 --> 1:21:27.080 I go to. I go to North like to do 1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:29.400 if I want to do a video sign ros barock 1:21:29.439 --> 1:21:33.800 shout out, do it all the first politician, politician you know, 1:21:34.840 --> 1:21:38.080 anybody like you shooting a video. Cops don't sweat you 1:21:38.160 --> 1:21:40.360 for that. Ship. I'm doing ship to bring you shit around. 1:21:40.400 --> 1:21:44.840 You gotta permit like homies, Nigga, I ain't hustle. After 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.280 I gave up, I said, the only way I sell 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:50.840 drugs again if I got a motherfucking pharmacy nigga or 1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:54.320 dispensary like nigga, Like, I ain't doing nothing, and I 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:57.840 get back more to the community than anybody y'all doing nothing. 1:21:57.920 --> 1:21:58.960 Y'all lock the niggas up. 1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:02.360 So I home, I got a key to the city, 1:22:02.479 --> 1:22:08.240 and like Orange, not in Eastern until after a proposal, 1:22:08.439 --> 1:22:11.040 like you know, so it's like this our hometown. We 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:14.479 came from here. They was mad when we did Ghetto Bass. 1:22:14.560 --> 1:22:16.840 The video as well said we made the city look 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:23.360 bad showing the projects the city. Hold on, we made 1:22:23.400 --> 1:22:25.200 the city look bad for showing them. 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:26.599 Something that was there, y'all. 1:22:26.720 --> 1:22:30.519 Motherfucker's bilk. Hold the fuck off. Oh, we're showing the world. 1:22:30.600 --> 1:22:33.799 They like, where the fuck is that with these niggas 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:38.920 with braids, dickies and boots and bats and shanks and oozzies. 1:22:38.439 --> 1:22:40.280 And what the fuck? In Jersey? 1:22:41.160 --> 1:22:43.720 Yeah, they like everybody throw a jersey in New York. 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:48.080 It was like, yeah, the grass and all that. They 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:55.240 it's a hood everywhere. Ye yeah, yeah. Then we could 1:22:55.240 --> 1:22:57.400 do a QuickTime no no, no, hold on, damn hold on? 1:22:58.000 --> 1:23:03.599 What okay, come on, let's go. You ready if any 1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:04.559 want to explain to him. 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:08.519 The rust YEP. Alright, so this is our drinking game. 1:23:09.600 --> 1:23:11.320 Only half of the diame you told me. 1:23:11.400 --> 1:23:15.679 Therefore, I took another drink, give me fad. 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:17.360 Hate. 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:19.639 You can sip up your drink or take a shot. 1:23:19.640 --> 1:23:20.120 That's up to you. 1:23:21.040 --> 1:23:23.400 Yeah, what the fuck? My drink is a shot. 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:26.200 So we're gonna tell We're gonna give you two choices. 1:23:27.000 --> 1:23:31.479 If you pick one, no drinking, right, nobody drinks boring. 1:23:31.640 --> 1:23:34.400 But if you know, if you say both, if you 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:36.599 say or neither, we all drinking. 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:41.599 It's the one where all of us gonna fucking drink. 1:23:41.640 --> 1:23:45.320 A little trick question asked. I take the one where 1:23:45.400 --> 1:23:49.080 all of us both together. 1:23:49.200 --> 1:23:51.519 Yes, we go down to what is this drink? Champ, 1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:54.240 what the fuck? Tell me the one that don't drink? 1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:58.320 The first one is and you can explain, like if 1:23:58.360 --> 1:23:59.760 you want to explain it, because you know this is 1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:02.720 talking about everybody we mentioning here, all right, Hawk or 1:24:02.800 --> 1:24:08.280 d m X, Pap, Lauren Hill or Queen Latifa, Queen Latifa. 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:10.040 See you don't want to drink. 1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:12.160 Yeah, he on point. 1:24:12.400 --> 1:24:17.800 I know he is wise, intelligent or King's son both. 1:24:18.400 --> 1:24:26.800 I got it? Shot, Hi, that was it? 1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:27.519 That didn't work out? 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:27.680 Right? 1:24:27.760 --> 1:24:28.799 I couldn't give you a napkin? 1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:31.439 What did you do then? Bro gulped it? 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:33.160 I like to tell you I did that ship on 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:40.280 purpose all right, Shack run our test shack shot from 1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:44.280 the bricks, right, Yeah, no ice tea. 1:24:44.200 --> 1:24:48.320 Or ice cube, ice tea going through the praz or 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:48.920 White Cliff. 1:24:51.280 --> 1:25:00.679 Both can go against crews. The outlaw was a goodie 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:10.599 Mom I Lost Biggie or big l Biggie Life after 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:13.080 Death or all eyes on me both? 1:25:13.840 --> 1:25:20.000 Fuck that was ship's motherfucker. 1:25:20.160 --> 1:25:29.360 Look, you're Dominican wants some mom haunabal SMA. 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:34.880 Feel you want to because I'm gonna totally something else. 1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:38.800 I tell you I had puertowcan Dominican and motherfuckers. I 1:25:39.080 --> 1:25:41.080 motherfucker had to know what they were saying about me. 1:25:43.400 --> 1:25:56.000 I learned Spanish like a motherfucker. Coppy become Jason's lyric 1:25:56.080 --> 1:26:02.120 or Juice Juice. Chris Cross is a young youngsters. Will 1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:08.679 Smith and Chris Rock both mother pieces of ship. Yah, 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:16.720 y'all be cheating for the guy, y'all be he man. Yeah, 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:24.520 let's see what my on mas analog or digital analog. 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:26.719 I knew he was gonna say that. I'm an analog 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:31.719 nigga too. Rod Digger MC light Rod Digger, this Jersey 1:26:32.120 --> 1:26:35.400 I love him, she like you. Fucking y'all both nigga both, 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.240 damn it, you fucking something, bitch. 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:47.439 M O P or mom deep m O P kiss 1:26:47.520 --> 1:26:55.960 or not you mother? It's you serious? Mother? You going back? 1:26:55.960 --> 1:27:02.400 You say both both nigga drink? Motherfucker you drinking this nigga? 1:27:02.439 --> 1:27:06.160 Get real. He just keep picking up the fucking blunt nigga. 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:19.519 Yeah good Jadakis and oas Jada Nos nigga both Jada 1:27:19.520 --> 1:27:29.880 and Nos nigga is yo, Yeah, y'all gonna cut that 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:33.000 ship out. All these niggas I know too, all in 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:35.600 my fans, everybody named y'all motherfuckers. 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:37.519 He knows the both A. You know what, let me 1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:39.439 take this last one. Don't even ask. 1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:42.880 Ships that you know? 1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:44.360 Gaed up. 1:27:44.680 --> 1:27:50.160 He was just talking going like, you know, I want 1:27:51.200 --> 1:27:53.880 I want to smoke, man, I want to smoke right now. 1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:56.160 You know. 1:27:57.920 --> 1:28:01.120 You gotta be for what I'm for another interview after no. 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:04.320 No, I'm preparing for no nigga. Prepare your your playing? 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:05.080 What your music? 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:12.240 Question? What nigga you're gonna do that you're taking the 1:28:12.360 --> 1:28:12.680 next one. 1:28:13.520 --> 1:28:16.800 Nigga already tell the Deep ship leaders to the new 1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:19.559 score A try call quest. He taking a drinks. 1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:22.479 Niggas we all drinking no me not. I'm not drinking 1:28:22.560 --> 1:28:24.760 with you. No, no, no, no, we just hurt. 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:30.599 Oh you're taking it for out right for me, no, nigga, 1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:36.760 not for him. On the fuck out. I'm really thought 1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:41.200 I drunk that muchos, motherfucker the big I drunk that 1:28:41.400 --> 1:28:42.800 much in here and not to know what the bug 1:28:42.880 --> 1:28:45.360 going on? Niggas, I'll be faded all the time. And 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:47.400 I ain't got no. You ain't seen me on the news, 1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:51.360 did y'all ain't. I ain't showing now, Nigga, I know 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:52.360 how to handle this ship. 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:57.360 You motherfucker. You gonna saw a drinking I'm gonna call uncle. 1:28:57.439 --> 1:28:57.599 Wha. 1:28:57.800 --> 1:29:02.880 I'm talking, nigga, stop drinking. 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:08.439 That's my mom. What was the next you're gonna drink? 1:29:09.040 --> 1:29:11.920 I told you we known each other a long time. 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:17.080 Sunny drinking form both of y'alls. Okay, good, yeah, where 1:29:17.120 --> 1:29:22.000 we are brand Nubian or poor righteous teachers? Oh man? Both? 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:25.759 But now I'm the only one drinking at this table. 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:35.639 Good TLC or Destiny's Child c l C. Gotta go, Sawn, Pepper, 1:29:35.760 --> 1:29:41.800 j J fadd so Pep talking about keep my baby, Mama, 1:29:42.400 --> 1:29:54.000 mother Melly mal or Caz. 1:29:54.840 --> 1:30:04.000 Oh God, damn Mellie mal Red Alert Kick Capri Alert, got. 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:07.000 My uncle before my bro Come on, man, you're fucking 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:18.840 meat Premore, Pete Rock prim Component Cormega Corpon Megaga. These 1:30:18.920 --> 1:30:21.440 niggas like, Yo, man, haigga's so district. 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:25.040 Clue or funk funk Flex. 1:30:25.520 --> 1:30:26.360 I can't even talk right. 1:30:29.320 --> 1:30:31.080 Nobody else in that sentence. 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:45.000 You don't fuck with Flex right, okay, translationas lacy. 1:30:45.200 --> 1:30:50.439 Lazy scarface of cougie rap. That's both. Come on, let's 1:30:50.439 --> 1:30:50.960 just drink. 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:56.680 Guard you rat guardy rat nigga Yo run dm C 1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:58.880 or E P M D one d m C. 1:30:59.000 --> 1:30:59.679 Then my uncles. 1:30:59.720 --> 1:31:04.600 I got take my uncles off, my brotheries can. I 1:31:04.680 --> 1:31:07.360 was a little l loud and a lot came, but 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:19.080 I'll say llll because I have nigga getting me Figga, 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:23.080 my uncle, nigga like this good seke with eighties and 1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:27.800 nineties hip hop. Nineties nigga, that's where we was at. 1:31:27.880 --> 1:31:32.680 I have to say nineties rock Kim or Karas One, 1:31:34.600 --> 1:31:36.759 Rob r S one nigga like what the fuck? 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:40.479 Both motherfucker like nigga. I don't want no smoke with 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:41.000 my auncs. 1:31:41.080 --> 1:31:43.960 I just did motherfucking Good Morning America with rock Kim 1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:47.560 for the Cassidy ship with can't play and ship Nigga. 1:31:49.560 --> 1:31:50.840 And who you said with. 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:55.600 Uh rock Kim and Karris one, caris one and we 1:31:55.760 --> 1:31:59.120 have a single out me caris one is dot X 1:31:59.200 --> 1:31:59.799 called free. 1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:06.559 All right, said both my notes, my niggas, thank you. 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:14.479 Sir, your shot. Tell them tell them shot jay wx 1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:19.320 j X. Yeah, said my ni relative over there. Yeah, 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:21.880 I'm gonna tell him, were almost done. We're almost done. 1:32:21.960 --> 1:32:27.120 Uh the score or there's the dark side. I don't 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:30.320 know neither one of them. Motherfuckeris or red Man? Oh no, 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:33.679 you said albums, Oh okay, after you was talking movies, 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:36.679 go ahead, the score fujis or there is a dark 1:32:36.720 --> 1:32:40.920 side which is redman nigga both Jersey? Is you serious? 1:32:41.400 --> 1:32:42.720 This is a brook This is the same like the 1:32:42.760 --> 1:32:47.439 Brooklyn Jersey drinking Jersey. 1:32:47.760 --> 1:32:51.040 I like these mother question n W a U Tang 1:32:51.120 --> 1:32:54.959 clan n W Tang. 1:33:02.400 --> 1:33:05.120 Set it off or New Jersey drive set it off? 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:08.960 Nigga Jersey drivers for wack as hell. No, I'm just 1:33:09.080 --> 1:33:14.320 saying now, let me like I love first. I wasn't 1:33:14.400 --> 1:33:15.799 in it, so you know I'm biased. 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:16.920 I was. 1:33:17.080 --> 1:33:19.040 I was doing a little hater ship. You feeling the same. 1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:19.880 You read for it. 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:30.360 No, hell no, no, it wasn't like Jersey anyway. I said, 1:33:30.360 --> 1:33:33.639 who I said? Set it off? Set it the fuck? 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:37.040 Oh, Cleo, come on, put that sit down, Cleo? 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:43.559 All right? Two more video music box or video juke box. 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:50.360 Video music box. Ralph McDaniel's all fucking day. That's my uncle. 1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:54.200 I'm like nigga. I have all of my uncles for real, 1:33:54.280 --> 1:33:56.960 because I was adopted. I was a ghetto basket. Wrote 1:33:56.960 --> 1:33:58.280 a song about it. Want to hear it here you 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:09.560 go gonna yeah, all right, last one loyalty or respect, loyal. 1:34:09.880 --> 1:34:16.400 Spect I like that. I like that translations translation. 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:21.360 It's a new and guess what us three right here 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:25.439 at this table, we're gonna do some things and we're 1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:28.920 gonna have a whole nother slanguage, and we're gonna put 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:30.920 it out on anything else because it was inventing here 1:34:31.000 --> 1:34:33.559 on different just bowsing everything we recorded. 1:34:33.560 --> 1:34:35.679 We're gonna put it down. It's gonna be a new slanguage, 1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:36.280 wouldn't it be? 1:34:36.479 --> 1:34:36.639 Yeah? 1:34:36.720 --> 1:34:37.439 And we wouldn't. 1:34:37.880 --> 1:34:38.040 Yeah. 1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:43.000 This is some money off this ship. 1:34:43.439 --> 1:34:45.280 This is something I wanted to ask you for years 1:34:46.040 --> 1:34:49.400 on poison Men, has this record right and it's you 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:50.920 Craig Mac method Man. 1:34:51.160 --> 1:34:54.920 Wow. And in the beginning of the record you say, 1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:59.080 this is what Poisoned Men sessions be. Like. Now, for 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:01.479 years I heard that part and I was like, what 1:35:01.680 --> 1:35:04.120 the fuck is going on in the poison Min session? 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:07.720 So can you break it down for people because I 1:35:08.160 --> 1:35:10.439 don't know. Could you introduce the song and tell them 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:12.559 what you're saying in the features? Do what you want 1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:16.759 to do. It's poison Men. It's called Vibing vib feature 1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:19.559 with mister Rhym's Craig Max method Man. 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:23.120 And in the beginning of it, you said, this is 1:35:23.160 --> 1:35:25.519 what we're doing. That sounds like you're having mad fun. 1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:28.120 But in my opinion, like this is an R and 1:35:28.280 --> 1:35:31.519 B man, these guys can't be having fun. But then 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:34.800 this souths when you come on and you say something like, yo, man, 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:37.120 this is how the pies Min session be, and I 1:35:37.240 --> 1:35:39.679 was like, damn, could the poison in session be fucking 1:35:39.880 --> 1:35:40.639 off the chain? 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:42.360 Was it? 1:35:43.400 --> 1:35:44.400 Let me tell you something. 1:35:44.400 --> 1:35:47.120 When you have them artists at that time in the 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:52.920 same studio, we just spoke on things, right, nigga, We 1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:59.559 had important bitches in there. He's an important cent every nigga. 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:02.759 That was me I already had a girl. Ain't fucking around, nigga. 1:36:03.400 --> 1:36:07.400 He imported some holes in there. We had vibing going 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:13.840 to fuck on we vibe, manigg We were vibing like 1:36:13.920 --> 1:36:17.400 a motherfucker. All that ship was straight and boom. So 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:19.720 what you were saying, like you know, like back in 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:23.400 the days and anything, it'd be a gang of niggas. 1:36:23.400 --> 1:36:26.000 Ain't putting no verses in in the studio because that 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:28.720 street vibe or whatever you're feeling, or you bring a 1:36:28.800 --> 1:36:31.400 gang of girls in on the sexy vibe like boom, 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:35.240 like to feel that on anything else. Yeah, I fucked 1:36:35.280 --> 1:36:37.360 a couple, nigga. I know you're laughing like he like 1:36:37.479 --> 1:36:41.720 want to say, like that's my that's my brother says 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:44.040 over there. Can't take them nowhere. That's why I take 1:36:44.120 --> 1:36:52.040 them everywhere, these motherfucker Yeah. Oh man, Okay, you just 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:54.679 it was just a case slate joint because I'm looking 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:54.920 at this. 1:36:57.000 --> 1:36:58.160 Resting piece case. 1:36:58.720 --> 1:37:00.080 It wasn't the two different ones he had. 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.160 Huntred first. Yo, let me tell you something. 1:37:06.000 --> 1:37:08.360 And I really don't want to get inyhing crazy with 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:13.200 flex or nothing. No, no, no, I respect he a 1:37:13.280 --> 1:37:16.200 black man. I don't want to never go he know, 1:37:16.320 --> 1:37:18.960 we had our problems over and it was business stuff 1:37:19.000 --> 1:37:21.880 and everything else, and you know, but I don't want 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:23.880 to tear him down. But Kase Slay, let me tell 1:37:23.880 --> 1:37:26.960 you something. Kate Slay was a nigga that would play 1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:33.200 not I gotta play to pay, you gotta pay to play, 1:37:33.560 --> 1:37:36.759 you gotta pay boom. And it's not even like pay. 1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:37.200 O lord son. 1:37:37.360 --> 1:37:39.960 It's just doing extras for DJs to pull them close 1:37:40.040 --> 1:37:42.559 and just play. They stuff it kind of fucked up 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:47.040 the game. Kse Slay, that motherfucker would play a nigga 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:49.920 that rolled up on him out of nowhere. 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:52.320 Let him hear some ship on that. 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:55.439 And there, like yo, email that ship to me, Yo 1:37:55.720 --> 1:37:59.639 shan sean here, take my number, take my number, call 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:08.080 me yo. Case Sleigh called the first one hundreds. It 1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:11.800 wasn't an assistant, it wasn't. He called them himself, two 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:15.640 hundred m c's before he went. He called all of us. 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:18.800 Anybody was talking about that when we was at the 1:38:18.880 --> 1:38:22.200 premiere and all that, Like, Yo, this nigga called us 1:38:22.360 --> 1:38:27.000 hisself and he if he liked the shit, he was 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:29.320 gonna play it. If he didn't, he wasn't. He didn't 1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:31.320 give fucked where he was from. You ain't had to 1:38:31.479 --> 1:38:33.680 offer him nothing, say I got something for you. Non. 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:35.960 He's like, nah, nigga, if I like it, I'm playing 1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:37.240 it on my show. 1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.640 I got the hottest shit at night Boom And that 1:38:39.920 --> 1:38:42.880 was what he and uh Pat Pools shout out to 1:38:42.960 --> 1:38:46.960 my nigga, Pat pool and love Pat Poos kept his 1:38:47.120 --> 1:38:49.559 legacy a lot. He was there when he keeping it alive, 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:52.360 still keeping it. He was there like when he was 1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:54.639 in the hospital. It was like one of his last 1:38:54.720 --> 1:38:58.640 words is put out this two hundred like you know 1:38:58.760 --> 1:39:01.479 really no really, I mean Case Slay was like that. 1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:04.080 I came to see Kate Save should be a coffiti writer. 1:39:06.000 --> 1:39:07.040 No Case Slay. 1:39:07.160 --> 1:39:11.000 Yo. I came look with my other relatives up in 1:39:11.120 --> 1:39:14.439 Harlem and I just came in like with Case Slave's store. 1:39:15.880 --> 1:39:21.960 So I rolled up in there. Slay is behind the counter. Yo, 1:39:22.240 --> 1:39:27.599 he's on the road. He's doing radio. He got his show. 1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:29.639 It ain't like it was viral at home. You could 1:39:29.640 --> 1:39:30.519 do a home you going. 1:39:30.400 --> 1:39:30.920 To the station. 1:39:31.080 --> 1:39:31.320 Boom. 1:39:31.640 --> 1:39:36.880 He's behind the counter at his store and so I 1:39:37.040 --> 1:39:37.479 rolled by. 1:39:37.520 --> 1:39:40.559 I had the hoodie on anything, and he was like, onie, homie, 1:39:40.600 --> 1:39:41.960 you one son. Boom. 1:39:42.880 --> 1:39:45.519 I took off the hoodie turn around like yeah, nigga. 1:39:45.840 --> 1:39:49.280 I threw like five geez damn, like everything up there, 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:53.200 I want this, and then gave half of it out 1:39:53.240 --> 1:39:55.280 to the homies in Harlem there and then took the 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.200 rest and gave it to my homies in the hood 1:39:57.600 --> 1:40:02.040 because he would call it's crazy because once you get 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:06.679 so long in the industry, like every other genre of music, 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:10.360 you get larger, you get more paper hip hop. They 1:40:10.439 --> 1:40:14.960 tried to be like, oh, you was hot. Then I 1:40:15.160 --> 1:40:17.320 was blessed because I was doing movies everything else. And 1:40:17.400 --> 1:40:21.160 then I'm like, yo, we gotta do some negotiations, nigga. 1:40:21.880 --> 1:40:26.120 And I say that to white folks, Yo, we gotta 1:40:26.200 --> 1:40:31.560 do some negotiations nigga meaning translations. I ain't stupid. I 1:40:31.680 --> 1:40:41.360 know the game pay to play. So it was just yeah, yeah, facts. 1:40:41.439 --> 1:40:43.920 And you got to see Melly mel there too, Man Meloy. 1:40:44.040 --> 1:40:46.320 Every time I see Melly mel yo, this is y'all. 1:40:47.000 --> 1:40:53.920 He's gonna fuck me up to this night. He's like 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:58.360 a grandfather that did forty years in like in the 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:02.960 Yard eight them tell his joke because he called because 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:04.920 I was jealous and ship. They was like, yo, you 1:41:04.960 --> 1:41:08.759 ain't big as your uncle Melly Mail. I'm like, Nigga, 1:41:08.880 --> 1:41:11.559 like what I got a lift a? He ain't dig 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:14.599 like him. I'm like, yo, that's a blow up balloon 1:41:14.800 --> 1:41:20.080 suit there, Like it's a balloon suit. I said, yeah, man, 1:41:20.120 --> 1:41:22.560 He's like, man, you lie, I said, I'm telling you 1:41:22.640 --> 1:41:24.880 when he sit down. One time he sat on Sun's 1:41:24.880 --> 1:41:32.760 shop and it's just deflated ship. He said, yo, for real? 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:35.599 I said, yeah, man, he got, I said, Uncle mel. 1:41:35.720 --> 1:41:38.719 I said, what's wrong with your muscles? They's drinking? He said, 1:41:39.240 --> 1:41:51.800 broken glass everywhere. I can't take y'all nowhere. That's why 1:41:51.840 --> 1:41:59.639 I take y'all everywhere, Yo, he told me. Over there, 1:41:59.680 --> 1:42:01.719 he say he went to the doctor and the doctor 1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:04.320 told him, Yo, you're getting your blood pressure is getting 1:42:04.360 --> 1:42:06.840 high and everything is from drink drinking. You gotta stop it. 1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:10.439 Mely Ma told the doctors like, we got to think 1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:19.400 of another way. He said, drinking is not gonna think 1:42:19.600 --> 1:42:22.439 another way. Figure that you the doctor. Figure the ship 1:42:22.520 --> 1:42:27.840 out where I continue drinking. Yeah, he drinking doing all 1:42:27.920 --> 1:42:32.280 that ship. He's like, it's different. It's five o'clock somewhere. 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:35.599 But but are you talking about people drinking? Is your 1:42:35.920 --> 1:42:40.360 called drink share? I thought I thought, drink, No, no, drink. 1:42:41.080 --> 1:42:44.639 He works out and then when you go out certain times. 1:42:44.960 --> 1:42:48.680 But for us as artists, when we on detox, it's 1:42:48.800 --> 1:42:51.840 like when we don't have an event or show and 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:56.400 then you have five a week, and then you get older, 1:42:56.439 --> 1:42:59.000 you'd be like, oh fuck the other day, go on 1:42:59.160 --> 1:43:02.960 detox today, because we see all the funerals were going 1:43:03.040 --> 1:43:06.519 through for natural causes and our families. So they telling 1:43:06.640 --> 1:43:09.080 us a right now, you want to come with us 1:43:09.160 --> 1:43:11.360 or you want to get it together. Bow. 1:43:12.080 --> 1:43:14.080 That's why I took all my milk thistles. 1:43:17.200 --> 1:43:22.720 Chance, No, it's for your living milk chat every day 1:43:22.760 --> 1:43:26.040 I take milk, you don't take it. He didn't even 1:43:26.120 --> 1:43:28.160 know what the fun that's good for your living man? 1:43:30.560 --> 1:43:33.800 I know this, Oh no, this this uh me and 1:43:33.880 --> 1:43:34.760 my wife down here. 1:43:34.880 --> 1:43:41.160 So this honey horny goat weed. You get that testosterro 1:43:45.320 --> 1:43:50.360 that gallic extract to get all that little ship nigga 1:43:50.439 --> 1:43:54.080 gotta keep better help and nor that's yea miss see, 1:43:54.520 --> 1:43:57.719 oh ship, I got that, and the molt the milk thistle. 1:43:58.200 --> 1:44:01.479 This is for your mother. You're living man, you understand, 1:44:01.560 --> 1:44:03.360 so you do that, oh ship. 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:07.639 I opened my bag and found an alligator oh, here's 1:44:07.680 --> 1:44:16.160 your head. I'll be searching my own ship like nigga, 1:44:16.320 --> 1:44:18.760 get your hands up. So what the fuck is this? Milk? 1:44:18.960 --> 1:44:20.639 Milk thistle? It's a roote? 1:44:21.080 --> 1:44:25.360 And what is it? I mean taking talking them to 1:44:25.439 --> 1:44:29.439 day and they can tell you it's official purpose. Good 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:31.560 for I ain't gonna lie you the first nigga to 1:44:31.600 --> 1:44:33.839 pull out vitamins. Let's make some look. 1:44:37.920 --> 1:44:42.720 To drinks yet with the nigga milk thistles right by 1:44:42.760 --> 1:44:45.679 the way. By the way, I thought you was putting 1:44:45.680 --> 1:44:54.240 a sling on it. It's really coold. What are you 1:44:54.320 --> 1:44:58.240 saying about the East education were still. 1:45:01.800 --> 1:45:01.920 Yo? 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:04.200 We would cut Yo classes. 1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:09.240 We would cut classes, go uptown to pick up coke 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:13.000 and get mixtapes and we would we would have it 1:45:13.040 --> 1:45:15.400 where we come to funk back and still pass our 1:45:15.520 --> 1:45:17.880 ship when the ship we came because we use smart 1:45:18.000 --> 1:45:21.880 niggas spells frequently, You know what I mean. I gotta 1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:24.599 chip on my shoulder that Bill Gates ain't mate, gotta 1:45:24.680 --> 1:45:27.400 connect up in Harlem. Got a great weight right, gott 1:45:27.439 --> 1:45:29.080 a how to answer a lot. I gotta hot tray, 1:45:29.160 --> 1:45:31.960 a heavy rocks in my rings. Had a quake can 1:45:32.040 --> 1:45:35.160 shake or she can't freak, you will freak less. Fuck 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:38.040 keep a freak for a week, fucking stuff for a month. 1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:41.360 Gotta playing hot damn man the great reperd flow, Gotta 1:45:41.400 --> 1:45:45.400 actionable faction, win international afterglow. Choose for your foods, trying 1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:48.919 to fix some shit. God talent, more gifted dinner. Christmas 1:45:49.080 --> 1:45:51.840 list got to so many foods. So a Rod East 1:45:51.920 --> 1:45:55.120 West got a list. He's the best, So I'm stressed. 1:45:55.160 --> 1:45:58.160 Wild guess. Got a lot of materiovill on the set. 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:00.200 I got asked in first class US. 1:46:00.200 --> 1:46:02.920 Some head on the jet. Got an album We Wile 1:46:03.000 --> 1:46:05.000 It Comes, We rist, I got. 1:46:04.960 --> 1:46:07.639 Kids, a gang of niggas I call a trip called trash. 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:11.839 We got hand me, we got desert, we got dinner, 1:46:12.320 --> 1:46:13.560 We got desert. 1:46:14.360 --> 1:46:22.120 Yo yo yo yo, oh you motherfucker yo everything, mother, 1:46:25.120 --> 1:46:25.320 This is. 1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:31.080 Something I want to ask you. You named the uptown anthem. 1:46:36.320 --> 1:46:38.719 At that time on the East Coast, the only uptown 1:46:38.800 --> 1:46:44.080 we knew was was Manhattan, was uptown Harlem and the 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:48.240 Bronx was that song made for Harlem and the Bronx, 1:46:48.360 --> 1:46:51.519 or that was made for any Uptown everywhere else movie, because. 1:46:53.640 --> 1:46:55.120 That's the other name it was Juice. 1:46:55.160 --> 1:46:59.080 I made the song it was a there was a 1:46:59.160 --> 1:47:03.600 second No, Uptown Anthem is because but then I have 1:47:03.680 --> 1:47:04.479 the second name to it. 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:08.839 No, no, I'm thinking of no translation. 1:47:09.320 --> 1:47:14.759 Uptown Anthem was because Juice was filmed in Harlem. Uptown 1:47:15.000 --> 1:47:18.479 now I could have been uptown Harlem Uptown Bronze. 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:19.519 It was in Harlem. 1:47:19.680 --> 1:47:27.080 So when the first verse I put on it, no, 1:47:27.240 --> 1:47:30.719 the last one coming around the corner with my uptown bunch, 1:47:30.840 --> 1:47:33.280 that was the actually the first verse I wrote to 1:47:33.439 --> 1:47:37.519 when I heard the beat, and it was and the 1:47:37.600 --> 1:47:40.479 whole time when I first before that I heard the track, 1:47:40.520 --> 1:47:42.960 I said, this song is gonna be called Uptown Anthem 1:47:44.880 --> 1:47:46.800 hereby did you know how great that song was going 1:47:46.880 --> 1:47:50.519 to be? No, No, I'm saying you didn't feel that. 1:47:50.640 --> 1:47:51.160 In the studio. 1:47:51.240 --> 1:47:54.720 We felt like I'll be on my dick. When I 1:47:54.840 --> 1:47:57.360 be in the studio, I truly be on my dick. 1:47:57.640 --> 1:48:01.719 I'll be like, this ship is the greatest. You feel 1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:04.080 me like I know, I know it's nothing, and the 1:48:04.280 --> 1:48:07.479 reach come out doing the song and be like y'all, y'all, yeah, 1:48:09.240 --> 1:48:10.640 I'm like, Nigga, I gotta do that. 1:48:11.080 --> 1:48:15.200 No, I feel it's a difference of the best hip 1:48:15.240 --> 1:48:17.439 hop records of it rock and roll. I tell you 1:48:17.680 --> 1:48:22.720 country music, any art form, their legends are going to 1:48:22.880 --> 1:48:27.080 always nigga. They be telling like Grammy nominated on nigga. 1:48:27.080 --> 1:48:30.280 I got a Grammy in the fucking house, American music 1:48:30.360 --> 1:48:33.160 war in the fucking house, Yo, don't cut my pay. 1:48:33.720 --> 1:48:37.240 So I never look at it like the millions that 1:48:37.400 --> 1:48:40.080 was left on the table, because I'm like, nah, nigga, thatin' 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:43.599 ain't enough to what comes after that, showing I didn't 1:48:43.680 --> 1:48:46.560 bend over to get fucked by y'all industry, and I 1:48:46.680 --> 1:48:48.880 didn't come up with snakes and rats and ships, you 1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:52.080 know what I'm saying, and little homies. I'm knowing the 1:48:52.200 --> 1:48:54.880 business on it. Oh, y'all want to do business, watch 1:48:54.960 --> 1:48:59.640 me do business? Boom, Yeah, what's the status like with 1:48:59.720 --> 1:49:04.160 the man? Well, Tommy Boy don't sell masters or anything. 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:07.920 And we really didn't care because we recorded. 1:49:07.560 --> 1:49:08.200 All our ship. 1:49:08.800 --> 1:49:12.800 Yeah we recorded swift Oh yeah, I mean yeah, And 1:49:13.040 --> 1:49:15.040 I sound just like the fuck I did on all 1:49:15.080 --> 1:49:18.559 the rest of them ship. Y'all sell your old ship. Now. 1:49:18.560 --> 1:49:21.240 I'm the baby mama that's giving your baby mama drama 1:49:21.280 --> 1:49:22.360 drama about his bino. 1:49:22.520 --> 1:49:23.720 I find wim around him. 1:49:23.800 --> 1:49:30.120 Holy deleted Jack in New City. Here we go. Now, No, 1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:33.080 I'm just saying you. I'm telling you that when I recorded, 1:49:33.160 --> 1:49:35.439 when they hear it, they don't know the difference, and 1:49:35.479 --> 1:49:37.559 we get all that money after the fact, y'all don't 1:49:37.560 --> 1:49:38.799 have to give us our masses. 1:49:39.120 --> 1:49:41.559 We remastered and Tommy Boy was a. 1:49:43.040 --> 1:49:48.800 Uh national label, independent label, so they gave different deals overseas, 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:52.360 so the market overseas and never even got it. 1:49:53.840 --> 1:49:58.960 Getting it passport pimpin international papers. 1:50:02.600 --> 1:50:06.479 Now you just saying this is earlier. But fill me flow? Yeah, 1:50:09.160 --> 1:50:12.600 I feel like that was your time to just it 1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:13.559 was showing off on. 1:50:13.600 --> 1:50:17.559 That mic definitely. When I heard the track. 1:50:18.960 --> 1:50:26.880 On the track, it was like, remember, usually I already 1:50:26.920 --> 1:50:29.560 have a hook or our right son around like the melodies, 1:50:29.600 --> 1:50:33.320 but on that I'm like, that's the hook. Here we go. 1:50:33.800 --> 1:50:36.960 Now if you're hearing me, though, come and fill me 1:50:37.160 --> 1:50:41.240 flow sing here we so now in the consertance and arenas, 1:50:41.320 --> 1:50:44.320 here we go, kind of feel me flow. The flow 1:50:44.439 --> 1:50:47.439 pro poetical was skills on lyr Veda no better than nowhere. 1:50:47.439 --> 1:50:49.200 It's a way to float this one point like that's 1:50:49.240 --> 1:50:52.120 almost man handling. New crew partying with the Zu cru 1:50:52.400 --> 1:50:54.519 looking for the pink and poo pools. I thought, you're 1:50:54.600 --> 1:50:56.760 new to stone styles of stamp in the gym. And 1:50:56.800 --> 1:50:59.000 then while we're playing in the gym, we us with 1:50:59.080 --> 1:51:02.679 a party. Imit damaging, managing, damaging Mike's men and even 1:51:02.800 --> 1:51:04.880 man because you're a fannigin now I want to know 1:51:04.960 --> 1:51:07.880 it was a man again. Nought, He's back like Verte 1:51:08.000 --> 1:51:10.559 Braid's words that hey, I'll hold the way I show 1:51:10.640 --> 1:51:13.679 your prey. I'll flow steady, bake it to the boogiees, 1:51:13.680 --> 1:51:15.840 oh bang top the slang bang and watch all the 1:51:15.920 --> 1:51:18.559 pool tag tag tank. And then when when I did 1:51:18.640 --> 1:51:20.800 this on again, I was like, I like to dedicate 1:51:20.960 --> 1:51:25.000 this ship to Janet Jackson's nipple. They popped out at 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:27.640 the ballfucking super Bowl. You had a picture of the 1:51:27.760 --> 1:51:32.800 nipple and my studio damn, all the players that look 1:51:32.840 --> 1:51:35.160 like Danny's slick said that this hell I get in 1:51:35.280 --> 1:51:38.519 invented pick rubbing, running yard, running yard, ren it and 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:42.120 it ran front of brother planet plant as I pack it, 1:51:42.280 --> 1:51:44.320 pick it and then pack it, trick it and then 1:51:44.360 --> 1:51:46.360 track it, throw it cracked, then catch it quick as 1:51:46.439 --> 1:51:49.000 rigging stet rabbit quick because it's a habit, so rabbit 1:51:49.080 --> 1:51:52.760 ass as another brother running rabbit, you know I mean. 1:51:52.800 --> 1:51:52.880 So. 1:51:55.080 --> 1:52:01.559 The job buying liver tell like you I mean by 1:52:01.640 --> 1:52:02.160 that ship. 1:52:04.479 --> 1:52:09.639 So let me spoke about this earlier. Kids ordering food, 1:52:11.120 --> 1:52:16.920 daddy duties. Yeah, everything's gonna be all right. Yeah, you 1:52:17.000 --> 1:52:22.400 know that statement itself is it's something that should be. 1:52:23.360 --> 1:52:26.120 It's something that when you google in the morning, when 1:52:26.160 --> 1:52:27.240 you wake up in the morning. 1:52:27.320 --> 1:52:30.120 Everything's gonna be all right. As soon as you wake up, 1:52:30.200 --> 1:52:32.719 your your your wake up. 1:52:32.720 --> 1:52:35.679 Call to everything's gonna be all right. You gotta walk 1:52:35.720 --> 1:52:40.400 outside with the mind state of that, not what's been 1:52:40.479 --> 1:52:43.679 going on. Nothing's gonna be all right. And so that's 1:52:43.720 --> 1:52:45.799 what we want to do. And we told the story 1:52:45.920 --> 1:52:49.880 of the hood through the record, but the hook always 1:52:50.040 --> 1:52:53.920 came to no matter what all that, you just heard, 1:52:55.520 --> 1:52:58.720 everything gonna be and you you know what I mean, 1:52:58.840 --> 1:53:04.240 Like the radio now may be blaming uh parents and 1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:10.920 the rappers for doing all this, you know, extra confrontational 1:53:11.080 --> 1:53:14.599 like music and all that. Yo, y'all playing it, y'all 1:53:14.680 --> 1:53:18.479 love the motherfuckers that's playing the ship. When you hear 1:53:18.600 --> 1:53:20.760 something on the radio all day, even if you don't 1:53:20.840 --> 1:53:23.519 like it, you start being like, damn that you don't 1:53:23.520 --> 1:53:27.840 even know you be like, then you stop yourself, like Nigga, 1:53:27.840 --> 1:53:30.200 I don't like this ship, but you hear it so much. 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:32.600 They programs, They programmed it into you. 1:53:32.760 --> 1:53:34.800 So I know plenty of records. I don't like all 1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:36.000 the radios if. 1:53:36.040 --> 1:53:39.719 You was playing ship like J Cole and all certain 1:53:39.800 --> 1:53:42.720 niggas like you had to have that type music to 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:46.519 get at least they play balance. We need to balance 1:53:47.000 --> 1:53:49.320 play all the dark ship and the banging ship and 1:53:49.400 --> 1:53:55.960 anything else tonight. But you have a different, uh mind 1:53:57.000 --> 1:53:59.840 trance of what's coming in as far as yo, this 1:54:00.120 --> 1:54:02.320 is what our kids need to hear. The people that's 1:54:02.400 --> 1:54:05.639 riding around in the day, the parents, the voone, even 1:54:05.680 --> 1:54:10.960 the parents start listening like yo, everything all right? Like yeah, 1:54:10.960 --> 1:54:14.000 I mean that's for the kids because they going to 1:54:14.120 --> 1:54:16.160 get everything else on the internet and on their phone, 1:54:16.800 --> 1:54:19.000 you know, but to hear it when they ride or 1:54:19.160 --> 1:54:22.719 they start once a pack of people start liking. 1:54:22.800 --> 1:54:26.080 Some people be like what's that? They want to come on? 1:54:26.360 --> 1:54:31.479 So it's crazy, but it's worth it. 1:54:32.560 --> 1:54:34.280 People all the time come up to me and say 1:54:35.080 --> 1:54:37.200 your music saved my life or your music got me 1:54:37.280 --> 1:54:40.320 through this, and you know, it's always an honor. 1:54:40.360 --> 1:54:42.560 It's always something. But did you ever have to listen 1:54:42.640 --> 1:54:45.880 to your own music to help you get through something? Nah, 1:54:46.000 --> 1:54:51.160 that shit took me back to dark places. I used 1:54:51.160 --> 1:54:54.000 to listen to everybody else's shit, and that shit made 1:54:54.040 --> 1:54:58.840 me right, Like, but you wouldn't listen to yourself now. 1:54:58.880 --> 1:55:01.040 I had to listen to it enough so I remember 1:55:01.080 --> 1:55:04.800 the lyrics on stage and ship because I would have shows. 1:55:04.840 --> 1:55:07.520 I'm like Nigga, but when you hear it so much, 1:55:07.960 --> 1:55:10.640 I just love hip hop so much, and I felt 1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:13.920 what always made me better was by listening to everybody 1:55:14.040 --> 1:55:17.560 else and knowing they lyrics. But I'm really knowing it 1:55:17.560 --> 1:55:23.080 because niggas was dope at fuck. Seventies, eighties, nineties, like 1:55:23.320 --> 1:55:26.560 niggas was dopest fuck. I mean any you could listen 1:55:26.600 --> 1:55:30.200 to albums front and back from the cassettes. 1:55:30.880 --> 1:55:32.480 Don't tell my age, mother fuck. 1:55:35.720 --> 1:55:36.400 He was a mix. 1:55:38.160 --> 1:55:45.600 That Look at that. Yeah, that's crazy. 1:55:48.080 --> 1:55:52.640 At the height you sold all all these records. What 1:55:52.840 --> 1:55:56.520 was on your rider? My ride at them? Oh? 1:55:57.840 --> 1:56:00.120 One thing we ain't never do as well. We now. 1:56:02.360 --> 1:56:06.000 Try to break the bank with the promoters anyway. We 1:56:06.120 --> 1:56:10.080 always want them to call us back. Okay, So certain spots, 1:56:10.120 --> 1:56:12.160 if it's a local spot and it's the hood. It's 1:56:12.200 --> 1:56:14.360 gonna be like one hundred and two hundred niggas. There 1:56:14.680 --> 1:56:17.560 were gonna need a little extras. But for the everyday rider, 1:56:17.640 --> 1:56:19.520 we're going to different towns and anything else. 1:56:20.480 --> 1:56:25.040 It looked like this. We had Hennessy. Of course, we 1:56:25.120 --> 1:56:26.440 have forty ounces. 1:56:26.320 --> 1:56:32.080 Forty ounces private stock, Oaklands okay, okay, and condoms. 1:56:33.840 --> 1:56:36.360 It's on the rock. What kind of columns you have back. 1:56:37.400 --> 1:56:42.800 Trojan Lifestyle Lifestyle Lifestyle Trope Magnums came after yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:56:43.200 --> 1:56:45.120 So you had to double and triple up on them 1:56:45.160 --> 1:56:49.760 little the lambskin them lambskins, nigga. It was just was 1:56:49.880 --> 1:56:59.200 just opening, like he said, lamb you need feel a lot. 1:57:00.040 --> 1:57:03.440 You know, old buffalo, you need buffalo skin. Nigga hurd 1:57:03.560 --> 1:57:07.640 the magnet what No, yeah, condoms and all that because 1:57:07.880 --> 1:57:11.320 because you know, we was doing our thing. Plus we 1:57:11.480 --> 1:57:14.560 had stickers. And then on opp when I say now 1:57:14.640 --> 1:57:19.160 here's your membership, I throw the so l ELKOJ was 1:57:19.200 --> 1:57:21.640 throwing out flowers, You was throwing out condoms. Just make them. 1:57:27.440 --> 1:57:29.160 You guys were on priority right at one point. 1:57:29.800 --> 1:57:34.920 No, no, no, we always we were. We actually never 1:57:35.080 --> 1:57:37.720 signed to Tommy Boy. We signed the Warner Brothers. Bennie 1:57:37.760 --> 1:57:40.520 Medina signed us to Warner Brothers. They didn't know how 1:57:40.560 --> 1:57:43.440 to work hip hop, so they said our subsidiary label 1:57:43.560 --> 1:57:46.360 was Tommy Boy Wow all over here. So we got 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:48.560 signed for like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars then, 1:57:48.640 --> 1:57:52.400 which back then was like a million. There's no between 1:57:52.480 --> 1:57:56.320 Tommy Boy and No. After Tommy Boy, we went to Arista. 1:57:55.920 --> 1:57:59.960 And Clive Davis, right, That's where what it was, because 1:58:00.600 --> 1:58:04.360 Clive Dave, my Boy was was the local street team 1:58:04.720 --> 1:58:06.480 for you guys. I forget what label he had. It 1:58:06.560 --> 1:58:08.760 must have been Arista or maybe it was Tommy Boy. 1:58:09.200 --> 1:58:12.640 And you guys were the first big hip hop artists 1:58:12.640 --> 1:58:14.320 I met personally. 1:58:14.160 --> 1:58:17.520 My god and and I remember like, did they have 1:58:17.600 --> 1:58:20.480 a bat? No? You know they did, they did on 1:58:20.560 --> 1:58:23.240 stage that when I met him, and I remember I 1:58:23.400 --> 1:58:25.560 was like, I was so struck by how humble you 1:58:25.640 --> 1:58:30.440 guys were, because you guys are megastars, and I was like, man, 1:58:30.560 --> 1:58:32.880 this is crazy, how humble these guys. You guys came 1:58:32.920 --> 1:58:34.240 on time to whatever. 1:58:36.040 --> 1:58:38.920 No bet against you, he did he better against you 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:47.400 against I had to make the water bill anything, yeah, yeah, 1:58:49.440 --> 1:58:52.400 get your money hold. 1:58:53.880 --> 1:58:56.240 They all fit. I said he gonna show up at 1:58:56.280 --> 1:58:58.400 four thirty. You know what time you showed up four 1:58:58.560 --> 1:59:02.960 o three. I'm to finish what I was saying, though. 1:59:03.600 --> 1:59:04.400 This is the crazy part. 1:59:04.400 --> 1:59:06.040 When I met you guys, and you guys were so humble, 1:59:06.080 --> 1:59:08.240 it taught me something at an early age, because you 1:59:08.320 --> 1:59:12.160 guys had reached so many heights and to see someone 1:59:12.240 --> 1:59:15.280 like that and y'all were just like on point humble 1:59:15.640 --> 1:59:18.560 doing the job and getting the fuck out of Dodge, 1:59:19.040 --> 1:59:20.840 I was like, okay, it was an example to be 1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:23.120 let And then later on and I said, this last 1:59:23.160 --> 1:59:24.840 time you guys were here my. 1:59:24.920 --> 1:59:26.200 First me and my crew. 1:59:26.240 --> 1:59:28.640 The first video appearance was in the craziest video you 1:59:28.720 --> 1:59:31.080 guys did the region version and you said Miami. 1:59:32.560 --> 1:59:44.600 We was at the Miami guys and that motherfuckers translations. 1:59:45.800 --> 1:59:46.560 That's beautiful. 1:59:46.840 --> 1:59:48.480 You ever thought hip hop would make it this fall? 1:59:49.000 --> 1:59:51.480 Yes, That's why I stayed in one thing. 1:59:51.520 --> 1:59:56.400 I always said, like every five years for since the 1:59:56.480 --> 1:59:59.560 exception of hip hop, always heard from the media and 1:59:59.680 --> 2:00:00.640 rock roos. 2:00:00.440 --> 2:00:01.560 In all different countries. 2:00:01.960 --> 2:00:04.080 Ah, I don't worry about that noise, and it only 2:00:04.160 --> 2:00:06.840 could be around for five more years, So fifty years 2:00:06.920 --> 2:00:14.320 later you'd be like, we made it like I knew it. 2:00:14.800 --> 2:00:15.520 I got in it. 2:00:16.400 --> 2:00:22.280 But the thing is, I'm not no psychic, but I 2:00:22.400 --> 2:00:24.520 felt it in the heart. If it didn't make it, 2:00:24.640 --> 2:00:26.640 I was going to do it up in this motherfucker 2:00:26.680 --> 2:00:29.800 while I was here. But every year I seen, like 2:00:29.960 --> 2:00:32.240 in different decades, and more artists came out. 2:00:32.280 --> 2:00:33.960 I'm like, oh shit, this. 2:00:34.000 --> 2:00:38.120 Shit ain't going nowhere my friends doing shit and making money, 2:00:38.200 --> 2:00:42.640 and I'm like, yeah, I'm like loving it because they 2:00:42.680 --> 2:00:44.480 asked me a long time ago. They asked me, I 2:00:44.560 --> 2:00:47.520 think it was the show or something. It was like, 2:00:47.680 --> 2:00:49.840 what you be doing if it wasn't for hip hop? Said, 2:00:49.840 --> 2:00:51.680 I'd probably be in your house, tying you up and 2:00:51.760 --> 2:00:53.880 getting your kids and everything else and going for the 2:00:53.960 --> 2:00:56.440 safe and doing some real shit every day. I'll be 2:00:56.560 --> 2:01:00.200 looking every day and it's one hundred million motherfuckers. It's 2:01:00.360 --> 2:01:05.520 like me, hip hop saves you feel what I'm saying. Now, 2:01:05.680 --> 2:01:09.840 let me ask you this. Probably only a couple of 2:01:09.880 --> 2:01:15.280 people could probably answer this question. What would life be 2:01:15.600 --> 2:01:24.520 like if Tupac had a Twitter? It depends on which Tupac. 2:01:25.240 --> 2:01:28.080 If it was the twenty year old, thirty old, year old, 2:01:28.280 --> 2:01:31.840 fifty year old. So we're saying and how early on 2:01:31.960 --> 2:01:35.600 you met pak Was it during Digital Underground days? Yeah, 2:01:35.640 --> 2:01:39.000 it was Digital Underground. It was we were both on 2:01:39.120 --> 2:01:43.440 Tommy Boy by Nature Uh well actually before Nature Ground 2:01:43.560 --> 2:01:48.720 was on Tommy Boy, not Pop Digital Underground. Yeah, Queen Teeth, okay, 2:01:49.040 --> 2:01:51.960 Tommy Boy. Yes, I was on the road as a 2:01:52.120 --> 2:01:55.880 roadie carrying a bag. Yeah, and her height and he's 2:01:55.920 --> 2:01:57.200 a roady for Digital Underground. 2:01:57.240 --> 2:02:00.480 Yes, that's how we met. That's crazy. Let's make some 2:02:00.520 --> 2:02:06.880 noise for the roadies. That's that's how we met. 2:02:07.840 --> 2:02:10.080 So we was carrying bags and vow and then we 2:02:10.320 --> 2:02:13.240 just kept contacts so everywhere we went and anything else, 2:02:13.480 --> 2:02:18.360 all right, And you know, you know, I want to 2:02:18.400 --> 2:02:23.200 say this for now, but I know you said you 2:02:23.680 --> 2:02:27.520 put Big on the phone. Now on the phone, he 2:02:27.640 --> 2:02:32.240 heard the conversation. Okay, was is there anything that you 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:35.400 thought you could have did? No, I said on the 2:02:35.520 --> 2:02:40.160 care I got real emotional. I can't play podcasts because 2:02:40.200 --> 2:02:45.000 I said, the only thing that's going to rib with 2:02:45.120 --> 2:02:47.000 me for the rest of my life is just. 2:02:48.680 --> 2:02:49.520 I wish I could have. 2:02:50.040 --> 2:02:53.920 Did something more to just get Poking Big together, right, 2:02:54.400 --> 2:02:58.000 But everybody tell me, like you couldn't have done what 2:02:58.240 --> 2:03:01.120 wasn't going to be done. But it just then was 2:03:01.240 --> 2:03:04.000 my niggas you feel what I'm saying, And we came 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:07.360 from Port of rich and it's still getting murdered like that. 2:03:07.720 --> 2:03:09.320 That part of the game is supposed to have been 2:03:09.360 --> 2:03:12.440 out like we made it that Like no matter what, 2:03:12.800 --> 2:03:15.960 hip hop was built off battles. Battles. Yeah, but like 2:03:16.040 --> 2:03:18.600 I said, hip hop didn't take out pocket Big. It 2:03:18.720 --> 2:03:21.120 was that media put that heat on it and that 2:03:21.280 --> 2:03:24.240 sauce on it. I guess on East coast West coast, 2:03:24.360 --> 2:03:26.880 just betting hip hop against hip hop. Even that magazine 2:03:26.920 --> 2:03:29.320 couple that you mentioned, all of that, even if it 2:03:29.480 --> 2:03:34.160 wasn't blatantly forward to try to it was supposed to 2:03:34.200 --> 2:03:39.800 have been more acknowledgement on having your team together. That 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:44.560 doesn't look right because it could start something. It's phases 2:03:44.640 --> 2:03:47.920 of what you do. Is a magazine or publication you 2:03:48.120 --> 2:03:50.760 put out stuff and be like, all right, is this 2:03:51.000 --> 2:03:54.160 gonna bring heat or is it more than just the truth? 2:03:54.360 --> 2:03:59.480 Is it igniting a fire? You know, like versus West 2:03:59.480 --> 2:04:02.120 could have been and it could have been worthed way different. 2:04:02.160 --> 2:04:10.240 You don't say East versus Western. And that was our 2:04:10.360 --> 2:04:14.920 social media back then because we go to get black 2:04:15.000 --> 2:04:21.680 beat rat masters all ego, we go to get the 2:04:21.840 --> 2:04:26.680 our magazines, that Vibes. I was the first cover of 2:04:26.920 --> 2:04:32.320 that Vibe magazine. No, that's when I became You asked 2:04:32.320 --> 2:04:37.120 a question of sex symbol. Yeah. Man, I went to 2:04:37.280 --> 2:04:42.320 go these motherfucker bastards. I had the brazen anything else. 2:04:42.360 --> 2:04:46.680 I went to go change my clothes and I'm changing 2:04:46.720 --> 2:04:48.720 to put something else on because we had the dickies 2:04:48.760 --> 2:04:50.560 and anything else. I had my chain. I wanted to 2:04:50.560 --> 2:04:52.840 put my chain on for the cover. They say it's 2:04:52.840 --> 2:04:54.760 a new magazine. I wanted to wrap my chain. That's 2:04:54.800 --> 2:04:56.880 the homies locked down in the middle of a shot. 2:04:56.920 --> 2:04:58.920 They said, turn look at the camera took and I 2:04:59.000 --> 2:05:01.760 took it with my shirt on. But I loved him 2:05:01.760 --> 2:05:06.240 after that. I came real sexy after that, nigga, I 2:05:06.400 --> 2:05:07.760 wasn't mad at me. 2:05:09.880 --> 2:05:13.840 But let's say let's say pac in twenty four, twenty 2:05:13.880 --> 2:05:20.920 four year old twenty four with a Twitter Twitter No no, no, no, no, 2:05:21.240 --> 2:05:22.320 he would have uh. 2:05:23.400 --> 2:05:25.200 They would have deleted his account. 2:05:26.400 --> 2:05:29.240 Oh, they would have turned black pant Baby black panther. 2:05:29.560 --> 2:05:33.520 He ran he no, like like how they suspend Kanye's 2:05:33.520 --> 2:05:37.520 account all the time. Yeah, yeah, but his Yeah, no, 2:05:37.760 --> 2:05:41.120 they would have deliberately. You can't even come out with 2:05:41.200 --> 2:05:45.800 a number two. Nobody nigga with anything. Nigga, you are nigga. 2:05:45.800 --> 2:05:47.680 I know what he's trying to do. He's rounding up 2:05:47.720 --> 2:05:51.800 the troops. Now, this is the famous picture. You guys 2:05:51.880 --> 2:05:55.000 got it on the group chat. Remember the group chat. 2:05:55.320 --> 2:05:58.280 They put it out there. It's a picture with you 2:05:59.640 --> 2:06:05.760 pop at Faith mm hm oh sitting down right, I 2:06:05.840 --> 2:06:08.120 think is that picture photoshot? 2:06:08.400 --> 2:06:14.080 No? No, okay, No, we're in the same We're in 2:06:14.160 --> 2:06:14.920 the same party. 2:06:15.560 --> 2:06:19.840 And so that's a party. That's not a private setting. Okay, No, 2:06:20.000 --> 2:06:23.080 that's a party. Okay, there's a party in a section and. 2:06:25.760 --> 2:06:26.480 We were all there. 2:06:27.120 --> 2:06:30.080 Park was like and you know Faith from Jersey. Yeah, okay, 2:06:30.520 --> 2:06:33.120 and like, Yo, Park like I want I want to 2:06:33.160 --> 2:06:34.960 do a song with a boom. 2:06:34.520 --> 2:06:37.560 This okay, hold on, let me stop you stretch because 2:06:37.560 --> 2:06:38.800 this is the famous incident. 2:06:39.840 --> 2:06:40.600 And I never Yo. 2:06:40.760 --> 2:06:42.800 They went to They tried to pay me to do 2:06:42.920 --> 2:06:45.600 a part of a documentary to talk about this, and 2:06:45.720 --> 2:06:47.960 I didn't take it, okay, but I talked to you. 2:06:48.160 --> 2:06:48.480 That's why. 2:06:48.600 --> 2:06:53.680 God, so this is at a party, because how it 2:06:53.760 --> 2:06:54.920 was always understood what this. 2:06:55.000 --> 2:06:58.600 Was a studio session. Okay that pick never okay never 2:06:58.880 --> 2:06:59.680 okay never. 2:07:00.120 --> 2:07:05.360 So so we were there and Faith wasn't in our 2:07:05.520 --> 2:07:08.440 area at first, but then she did the Jersey ship 2:07:08.520 --> 2:07:14.800 to me faith faith hoood Yeah yeah change Oh she 2:07:14.920 --> 2:07:23.640 called you tiny trigger tines either or okay, okay, okay, oh, 2:07:24.720 --> 2:07:29.520 trying to do her. I'm trying to do something. Introduced 2:07:29.560 --> 2:07:32.480 me to pop. I said, all right, I'll be right back. 2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:43.480 This mean this is faith, right, like coming back, take 2:07:43.560 --> 2:07:46.400 this picure. Back then it was like polaroids and ship 2:07:47.000 --> 2:07:49.920 the camera dude that was dead. So that was like 2:07:50.000 --> 2:07:53.600 a polaroid. So it's that ain't a I right, that's fact. 2:07:54.040 --> 2:07:54.600 I will tell you. 2:07:55.080 --> 2:07:56.960 Wow, I will tell you. Holy moly. 2:07:58.920 --> 2:08:01.880 So Park this respectful ass whatever he wanted to do, 2:08:02.920 --> 2:08:06.600 you know, but if they was beefing, then he got 2:08:06.680 --> 2:08:10.040 faith numbers. So anything happened after that. Nigga, Yeah, they 2:08:10.080 --> 2:08:12.600 said I introduced him, Yeah I did. Nigga, don't act 2:08:12.720 --> 2:08:15.840 like I introduced them, like yeah, I'm trying to get 2:08:15.880 --> 2:08:18.000 with pine shying pocket like I'm trying to fuck. 2:08:18.240 --> 2:08:20.320 It wasn't like that. It was on about y'all go 2:08:20.360 --> 2:08:22.280 ahead and buy all right, Yeah. 2:08:23.120 --> 2:08:25.560 Did you think that that moment would have led to 2:08:26.280 --> 2:08:28.480 because what they beefing prior to that, I don't, I don't, 2:08:28.520 --> 2:08:28.800 I don't know. 2:08:28.880 --> 2:08:30.200 I'm no. 2:08:30.640 --> 2:08:31.520 It's nigga. 2:08:32.160 --> 2:08:35.840 We know niggas, We know the hood, we know rich folks, 2:08:35.920 --> 2:08:39.320 we know motherfuckers be all over and anything. Shit don't 2:08:39.360 --> 2:08:44.240 really surprise us. Certain shit don't surprise nigga. If motherfucker's 2:08:44.280 --> 2:08:46.880 right there, you go. Even if I said no, faith, 2:08:47.200 --> 2:08:50.240 fuck you, nigga, I'm over, she would have still went 2:08:50.280 --> 2:08:53.280 over there now. No, all right, if I'm the scapegoad, 2:08:53.320 --> 2:08:55.760 I introduced them, nigga. They were right next to each other. 2:08:55.840 --> 2:08:57.440 They were going to introduce each. 2:08:57.320 --> 2:09:02.480 Other, right, Wow, we had smiff and western on here 2:09:02.560 --> 2:09:06.600 right smiffing my weapon to talk about the time where 2:09:07.000 --> 2:09:09.360 they were like like like the only guys I guess 2:09:09.440 --> 2:09:12.800 besides you that were doing records for park ass Parc 2:09:13.600 --> 2:09:15.560 was barbing on the East coast. 2:09:16.120 --> 2:09:19.200 So I asked them, did they ever received backlash? I'm 2:09:19.240 --> 2:09:20.240 going to ask you the same. 2:09:20.120 --> 2:09:22.720 Question, like, you know, because you never cut off Pok, 2:09:22.880 --> 2:09:25.280 like even when he was saying fuck everybody in the 2:09:25.320 --> 2:09:29.920 East Coast here, your babies and everyone like, you were 2:09:29.960 --> 2:09:31.440 still like all right, cow on right of the park. 2:09:31.480 --> 2:09:33.680 Did you ever receive any backlash from the East Coast? 2:09:33.800 --> 2:09:33.920 Oh? 2:09:34.040 --> 2:09:38.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah it was you gotta know the East Coast. 2:09:38.720 --> 2:09:42.240 I mean definitely the niggas was hot, but I I 2:09:42.400 --> 2:09:48.120 had Burbo bandits right, Brooklyn Bronze Queen. Im I'm playing 2:09:48.280 --> 2:09:52.360 babies basically, and every Burber on purpose, I'm going to 2:09:52.600 --> 2:09:56.680 have any problems anytime I have. This closes the home, right, 2:09:57.120 --> 2:10:02.560 But nah, it was like anybody that was hot, they 2:10:02.640 --> 2:10:07.600 knew they better not right for me. It was I'm 2:10:08.960 --> 2:10:14.040 southside Jamaica queens like niggas is deep deep deep deep, 2:10:14.160 --> 2:10:18.640 and Jersey Jersey's not far from New York at all, 2:10:18.920 --> 2:10:25.200 So we had to really put our pivot on and 2:10:25.320 --> 2:10:29.200 our swivel heads living out here. And I got canceled 2:10:29.240 --> 2:10:32.080 from a lot of shit already know if movies everything, 2:10:33.160 --> 2:10:37.560 you know, Pocking Shug was. They was like, ain'tbody fuck 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:41.839 with these two diggas. We gotta put put them because 2:10:41.840 --> 2:10:45.640 they come in in here to try to the ignorant 2:10:45.720 --> 2:10:50.120 way they bullying. Yeah, and you but I an't give 2:10:50.160 --> 2:10:55.720 a fuck. I just I triple and quadruple my hustle game. 2:10:56.280 --> 2:10:58.960 And they knew what it was like to this day. 2:10:59.000 --> 2:11:03.480 I support Park and Big and none none of the bullshit. 2:11:03.680 --> 2:11:06.280 You know, my record speaks for itself. But yeah, I 2:11:06.360 --> 2:11:09.320 got hit like a lot of ship with the ex wife, 2:11:09.400 --> 2:11:12.120 with the books and all that bullshit, like women looking 2:11:12.120 --> 2:11:14.240 at me like I'm this nigga right here, like and 2:11:14.280 --> 2:11:18.600 then other motherfucker's like no, So you gotta have a 2:11:18.760 --> 2:11:21.440 tough skin. A lot of artists they be like what happened? 2:11:21.480 --> 2:11:23.800 They ain't hear them, or they chose not to fucking 2:11:23.880 --> 2:11:27.680 even fuck with this shiit say it again for people 2:11:27.720 --> 2:11:30.360 that don't under stay, they chose not the fucking fucking 2:11:30.520 --> 2:11:35.640 fuck with this ship, Like this game is a whole Yeah, 2:11:35.880 --> 2:11:39.200 it's there's no sanctions, it's no niggas ain't then if 2:11:39.280 --> 2:11:43.600 some of you die or get murdered, oh, nobody's talking. 2:11:43.720 --> 2:11:45.680 So we're not even gonna investigate it. 2:11:48.920 --> 2:11:53.720 You know. You know I'm about to asks, now, what 2:11:53.800 --> 2:11:55.200 do you think about this KVD shit? 2:11:57.080 --> 2:12:02.120 I think, uh, it's a testament of what I just said. 2:12:02.440 --> 2:12:05.240 If you're a rapper, they're not gonna investigate it. And 2:12:06.880 --> 2:12:10.880 you know, anything that was said, it was said by 2:12:11.240 --> 2:12:16.000 the perpetrator word. So his testimony is his testimony can't 2:12:16.040 --> 2:12:19.720 nobody say. Nobody say he's his own witness and lawyer 2:12:20.360 --> 2:12:23.880 basically if you're public defender. But it's on the fact, No, 2:12:24.080 --> 2:12:31.520 it's whatever went on the system first. Knew a lot 2:12:31.600 --> 2:12:35.760 of this way before. You feel what I'm saying, all right, 2:12:35.800 --> 2:12:38.080 for people there for and me, I'm just one. Like 2:12:39.160 --> 2:12:41.680 it's two families or whatever else on either side of 2:12:41.800 --> 2:12:47.320 lives or anything that's destroyed, and when anybody dies or 2:12:47.400 --> 2:12:51.440 the shooter, both lives are going anywhere. And it's only 2:12:51.560 --> 2:12:54.360 it's niggas against niggas. You see, no matter what goes 2:12:54.400 --> 2:12:56.560 on in the world, right all over the world, look 2:12:56.600 --> 2:12:58.840 at what and ain't gonna mention none of the bullshit 2:12:59.040 --> 2:13:00.880 because you say something about out one side or the other, 2:13:01.000 --> 2:13:04.080 you getting, you know, but look at the fucking world. 2:13:04.960 --> 2:13:09.440 Everybody stands with each other, their own their race set 2:13:09.680 --> 2:13:11.960 black and brown. You feel me the. 2:13:12.080 --> 2:13:13.400 Power that we got. 2:13:15.520 --> 2:13:19.080 We can never we we would get reparations everything, because 2:13:19.120 --> 2:13:21.600 we would be running everything, because we would be a unit. 2:13:22.160 --> 2:13:26.920 When we ain't. We're doing the job for them. So 2:13:27.760 --> 2:13:30.240 I look at it like that, like I said, true said, 2:13:30.560 --> 2:13:32.960 you know, they want him to get on a stand. 2:13:33.160 --> 2:13:34.280 I'm not getting it. 2:13:34.800 --> 2:13:38.320 We cut from different cloths, like nobody is never going 2:13:38.480 --> 2:13:42.760 on a stand for shit, right, but that's are't supposed 2:13:42.760 --> 2:13:46.400 to stop police doing your motherfucker? Yeah, yeah, of finding 2:13:46.440 --> 2:13:49.120 who the fuck that's you, they won't know y'all know 2:13:49.160 --> 2:13:52.440 anything anybody, yo, motherfucker. We ain't getting paid by the city, 2:13:52.600 --> 2:13:54.959 and if we were, we don't fuck with y'all. 2:13:54.880 --> 2:13:58.160 And we don't know ship what are you doing? Right? 2:13:58.760 --> 2:13:58.800 So? 2:13:59.440 --> 2:14:01.960 Yeah, So to clarify what you were saying, you know, 2:14:03.200 --> 2:14:05.840 you think that that the Las Vegas Police Department and 2:14:06.000 --> 2:14:07.680 the LAPD probably. 2:14:07.520 --> 2:14:12.360 Been No, they've been. I've seen personally documentaries for decades. 2:14:12.520 --> 2:14:13.160 Yeah, I did too. 2:14:13.200 --> 2:14:13.640 I've seen the. 2:14:14.160 --> 2:14:18.440 Documentary that came out documents, you said, documentaries. Yes, I've 2:14:18.480 --> 2:14:24.400 seen like many laying down many details of like as 2:14:24.400 --> 2:14:26.600 a dude from Australia he broke the case down like that. 2:14:26.760 --> 2:14:29.360 BI I forget what the name of his documentary. 2:14:29.720 --> 2:14:32.960 And if you got on tape in Vegas in the 2:14:33.040 --> 2:14:39.680 casino of an altercation between different gang factions, it's. 2:14:39.560 --> 2:14:42.480 The number one suspect right already, no. 2:14:44.040 --> 2:14:47.120 Track, the track, the track that's it's on camera for 2:14:47.200 --> 2:14:50.320 the copts and then the documentaries come out and say 2:14:50.360 --> 2:14:52.240 it and I'm we over there. 2:14:52.200 --> 2:14:58.800 Life good fucking like y'all just come. 2:14:58.920 --> 2:15:01.520 And then twenty years later and the fucked up ship 2:15:01.640 --> 2:15:04.840 is too like whatever, he might do something, nigga, twenty 2:15:04.960 --> 2:15:09.400 years ago, however he would have got locked up. He'd 2:15:09.440 --> 2:15:12.920 be out now, and now you're going in, so he's 2:15:12.960 --> 2:15:17.760 never coming out right. So it's our people that does 2:15:17.800 --> 2:15:20.320 it to our people, and our people get trained by 2:15:20.440 --> 2:15:28.040 them people. God damn it. And he needs a lawyer 2:15:28.120 --> 2:15:37.040 right now. They're saying public defending it's crazy. Hey, I 2:15:37.160 --> 2:15:40.800 stopped drinking Hennessy a long time ago. I stopped catching charges. 2:15:41.840 --> 2:15:44.520 I see that lighting that white over there, nigga A 2:15:44.720 --> 2:15:46.160 handing me that up. 2:15:47.200 --> 2:15:48.400 You were a good dep. 2:15:53.400 --> 2:15:56.640 Made you stop drinking hennessy though I stopped catching charges. 2:15:57.080 --> 2:15:59.400 Let's come quite me, juice, man, is it. 2:15:59.440 --> 2:16:04.360 Is a It's like you don't it's no turn off. 2:16:04.560 --> 2:16:08.160 It's no like. I had to take anger management and 2:16:08.200 --> 2:16:12.040 shit and no for real, it taught me. Son. 2:16:12.120 --> 2:16:15.280 It's like being upset. You have no control over that. 2:16:15.400 --> 2:16:17.440 We're gonna get upset over son and pops up out 2:16:17.440 --> 2:16:21.440 of nowhere. Anger is where you take it. Zero to 2:16:21.520 --> 2:16:24.360 a honey, pulling up to a motherfucker cut you off. 2:16:24.560 --> 2:16:26.880 Just to stay at him and all that and no 2:16:27.760 --> 2:16:29.160 road raging, you know what I mean? 2:16:29.440 --> 2:16:31.360 Boom, a nigga says some ship. You don't just laugh 2:16:31.400 --> 2:16:33.160 at all or act like you ain't hear it. It's 2:16:33.240 --> 2:16:38.199 just like what like it's it's weird being upset, going 2:16:38.280 --> 2:16:42.840 to be, but anger you can fucking manage because you 2:16:43.120 --> 2:16:46.080 taking it to the next level, you know what I mean. 2:16:46.200 --> 2:16:50.720 So yeah, it's like, man, the streets gotta know we 2:16:50.879 --> 2:16:54.760 as us and like we are worse in them. We 2:16:54.959 --> 2:16:57.040 be like this. We don't be looking for little Asians, 2:16:57.080 --> 2:17:02.240 the white folks nobody, though, We be like looking for nigars, 2:17:03.800 --> 2:17:09.440 not cougars or jaguars, niggars. Something I seen the other 2:17:09.600 --> 2:17:12.000 night was it only y'all was hanging out together, young 2:17:12.320 --> 2:17:15.600 young and see told how come with the elder statesman. 2:17:15.879 --> 2:17:19.040 It's like it's also it's a super respect I mean 2:17:19.120 --> 2:17:21.320 for each other. We had a different respect. I think 2:17:21.400 --> 2:17:24.640 we fucked it up. Look the you don't listen to nobody. 2:17:25.320 --> 2:17:27.800 It's not just you, boom boom. My kids be looking 2:17:27.800 --> 2:17:29.760 at them now by I'm gonna let you know we're 2:17:29.800 --> 2:17:34.960 fucked it up for everything. When they told parents. It 2:17:35.120 --> 2:17:39.760 is illegal for your child. Not abuse, but whipping. They 2:17:39.840 --> 2:17:44.360 fucking asses. It fucked the world up. Oh, we fucked 2:17:44.440 --> 2:17:47.440 everything up. These little bastards don't respect ship. They ain't 2:17:47.440 --> 2:17:49.320 scared enoughing what you're gonna do. I call the cops 2:17:49.400 --> 2:17:51.240 and you know, I'll drop you off at the fight 2:17:51.360 --> 2:17:58.320 at the apartment with one bag. Nigga. Adoption you adopted today. 2:17:59.120 --> 2:18:03.160 I can't leave you on corner. You gonna fire the partner. Fucker. 2:18:05.800 --> 2:18:09.320 Nah. But yeah when the outlaw, they don't, they don't. 2:18:09.680 --> 2:18:13.480 They feel like they are untouchable. Nigga. 2:18:13.520 --> 2:18:16.320 We used to get with from my motherfucker babysitter or teacher. 2:18:16.840 --> 2:18:19.240 Motherfucker nigga on and they call you mom, what do 2:18:19.280 --> 2:18:19.440 you do? 2:18:19.760 --> 2:18:21.120 Oh, sh save me some. 2:18:21.480 --> 2:18:24.279 I'm coming home. Nigga. You got like four ass. 2:18:24.160 --> 2:18:26.880 Whippings and one nigga. We wasn't fucking around like that. 2:18:27.080 --> 2:18:29.200 My grandfather used to make me get the switch. Yeah 2:18:29.560 --> 2:18:30.119 down south. 2:18:30.360 --> 2:18:35.160 My mother took us to South, nigga. I'm talking about 2:18:35.160 --> 2:18:40.280 Cumbling Virginia. Different switches you go. And if it break 2:18:40.360 --> 2:18:44.279 when she tapped the motherfucking her motherfucking leg motherfucker, that motherfucker. 2:18:44.320 --> 2:18:47.480 You gotta get another one or she gonna get with you. Nigga, 2:18:48.320 --> 2:18:51.240 what man, we ain't show out at all. My grandmother 2:18:51.400 --> 2:18:55.280 was four foot nine nigga with eight eight of us 2:18:55.360 --> 2:18:58.800 down there, all cousins in our house down south, Nigga, 2:18:58.840 --> 2:19:04.160 we ain't show out at all, our law ass whippons. 2:19:05.400 --> 2:19:10.880 What's the most thing you missed about Pop? Probably like 2:19:11.000 --> 2:19:15.880 his his his his drive, like everybody think he was 2:19:16.879 --> 2:19:18.960 like this serious dude of it like he was. He 2:19:19.120 --> 2:19:21.560 was like how we talking here? He'll be here right 2:19:21.640 --> 2:19:25.800 now like the whole time. He would you know what 2:19:25.840 --> 2:19:27.760 I mean, he'll say at certain points where he'll be 2:19:27.879 --> 2:19:33.720 cracking up and all that. Just how far he could 2:19:33.760 --> 2:19:37.200 have took. He would have been probably the first hip 2:19:37.240 --> 2:19:42.520 hop president. That's what I missed the most. His shine 2:19:42.600 --> 2:19:47.600 where he nigga, every nigga, all his fans, and he 2:19:47.680 --> 2:19:50.760 had white fans, black fans. He ain't never separate him. 2:19:51.280 --> 2:19:53.200 He spoke the truth. This is a white man's world. 2:19:53.280 --> 2:19:55.280 But he spoke the truth and all and showed like 2:19:55.440 --> 2:19:58.760 all generations of people getting together. So I would have 2:19:58.800 --> 2:20:04.760 seen him like really and always say like Sugar would 2:20:04.760 --> 2:20:07.360 have been the first hip hop billionaire. Then Dre did 2:20:07.400 --> 2:20:10.720 because Sugar you know took this route. But Digg and 2:20:10.840 --> 2:20:13.440 Pak would have been all of us because it was 2:20:13.520 --> 2:20:16.160 open Jay and all of us, well, Pocking Big would 2:20:16.200 --> 2:20:16.440 have been. 2:20:17.840 --> 2:20:19.000 They was on a different level. 2:20:19.200 --> 2:20:24.080 Hypothetically, hypothetical question, had Pocking Big lived, you think they 2:20:24.120 --> 2:20:28.040 would eventually squashed it. They would have had the squashed it. 2:20:28.120 --> 2:20:30.520 I believe so too. In my heart. I believe that. 2:20:30.879 --> 2:20:32.280 Listen, in my heart, I believe this. 2:20:32.400 --> 2:20:37.080 No, No, they would have had to squash it because Nigga, 2:20:37.120 --> 2:20:39.840 it's bags over bullshit and he would have did a 2:20:39.920 --> 2:20:43.680 something joint. They would have had to because anybody else 2:20:43.760 --> 2:20:46.039 would have been like I would have been like, Yo, Nigga, 2:20:46.280 --> 2:20:49.879 I already talked to Big Nigga, come on, like get 2:20:49.959 --> 2:20:52.720 your business, dude, something blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 2:20:52.840 --> 2:20:54.119 It should have been over. 2:20:54.280 --> 2:20:56.360 It would have been over if they man, that ship 2:20:56.400 --> 2:20:58.560 would have been over because they wasn't, like I said, 2:20:59.160 --> 2:21:03.640 Defro wasn't that the bad boy at all. They wasn't 2:21:03.920 --> 2:21:06.240 lining up all their homies outside of every show they 2:21:06.320 --> 2:21:08.520 go to them. They was like, Nigga, we gonna makee 2:21:08.640 --> 2:21:09.200 hip breakers. 2:21:09.320 --> 2:21:11.760 Nigga, this ship is pressure. 2:21:11.760 --> 2:21:15.440 You ain't gotta pay for But just the East West 2:21:15.480 --> 2:21:18.680 ship brought the street element into it, like now it's 2:21:18.840 --> 2:21:23.400 like motherfuckers, it ain't rappers not liking certain rappers. 2:21:24.160 --> 2:21:26.880 At one point, like even parking at NAS right and 2:21:26.959 --> 2:21:31.040 they had everybody live turmoil, everybody mob. But you and 2:21:31.160 --> 2:21:33.560 I's had a great relationship at the time. Did that 2:21:33.760 --> 2:21:36.440 Did that change your relationship with Okay? 2:21:36.800 --> 2:21:41.000 No? No, it was like after hit him came up, 2:21:41.640 --> 2:21:43.080 I had a fire hundred. 2:21:42.800 --> 2:21:46.200 And I was in my it's the bens, y'all. 2:21:46.400 --> 2:21:50.400 Yeah, you know, you know, and I was letting them 2:21:50.440 --> 2:21:53.240 know nigga, I'm I'm I'm on the line park. But 2:21:53.440 --> 2:21:56.480 it started getting heated after that, like you know, like 2:21:56.720 --> 2:22:00.720 he's no NAS mob. Deep up. It was at the 2:22:00.800 --> 2:22:03.560 radio station then it wasn't taped beforehand, and ass now 2:22:04.000 --> 2:22:05.200 that's my nigga radio station. 2:22:05.480 --> 2:22:06.360 This is the radio station. 2:22:06.400 --> 2:22:10.440 Okay, Okay, So I hear NAIs on the end, you know, 2:22:10.640 --> 2:22:12.960 like they talking the topics. He's like, yeah, man, this 2:22:13.000 --> 2:22:16.960 ship is bullshit. We are born. I came from Jersey. 2:22:18.520 --> 2:22:20.520 It's hold me in the fire and to eat. And 2:22:20.600 --> 2:22:22.440 then when the same nives and them come out and 2:22:22.440 --> 2:22:26.040 I'm like, what's up? No se like Tresh, what's good? 2:22:26.120 --> 2:22:29.040 I'm like, yo, hear niggas Yo, I'm right with y'all 2:22:29.120 --> 2:22:31.480 to the highway because niggas know y'all at the station 2:22:32.520 --> 2:22:35.640 put that Tech nine out like y'all need nigga. I'm 2:22:35.720 --> 2:22:38.680 following y'all to the road like love y'all and flavor 2:22:38.760 --> 2:22:47.200 flavors with him. I feel like favor came to me. 2:22:47.480 --> 2:22:51.200 Tresh was something boy like yeah, like ship you got 2:22:51.320 --> 2:22:52.680 all we go over. 2:22:54.800 --> 2:23:00.320 No like hip hop. We we were different a read 2:23:00.400 --> 2:23:02.080 of brotherhood. 2:23:03.120 --> 2:23:05.560 We be on tours, ain't never known each other and 2:23:05.640 --> 2:23:08.160 seeing each other, and like hip hop just was a 2:23:08.240 --> 2:23:11.760 different one country artist like I'm in my rooming hip 2:23:11.760 --> 2:23:12.400 hop artists. 2:23:12.800 --> 2:23:16.240 We was looking at shows like Nigga, these niggas rocking. 2:23:16.720 --> 2:23:18.080 We got step ship. 2:23:18.120 --> 2:23:21.280 Up like you know what I mean learning, But we 2:23:21.520 --> 2:23:24.520 was there and go to parties together like MTV wraps 2:23:24.560 --> 2:23:25.879 all that spring Break ship. 2:23:26.200 --> 2:23:28.360 That bought so many niggas together and boom. 2:23:28.560 --> 2:23:30.840 We used to just be out of town going and 2:23:30.920 --> 2:23:32.520 then every time were on tour, we go to the 2:23:32.600 --> 2:23:33.600 after parties together. 2:23:34.640 --> 2:23:36.199 All the hip hop niggas. 2:23:36.320 --> 2:23:44.440 Facts, How can I be down impact having conventions? You 2:23:44.520 --> 2:23:48.600 know new York music. We got that picture. How can 2:23:48.680 --> 2:23:49.959 I beau? 2:23:50.040 --> 2:23:50.840 We got dropped from you? 2:23:51.040 --> 2:23:55.400 You got yo? You know you know what the crazy 2:23:55.440 --> 2:23:55.840 shi it is. 2:23:56.240 --> 2:24:01.000 What we should have implicated then, was did generational gap 2:24:01.360 --> 2:24:03.800 because me personally it wasn't one. 2:24:04.080 --> 2:24:06.440 It wasn't one then, but now it is now. We 2:24:06.480 --> 2:24:10.320 couldn't address it then. We weren't psychic. No, it did happen. No, No, 2:24:10.520 --> 2:24:16.440 look all of us Nigga, our ever nineties nigga, We 2:24:16.600 --> 2:24:20.640 see any of our artists eighties, seventies, Yo, it's like 2:24:21.000 --> 2:24:24.160 this like it was. It wasn't even like nah nigga, 2:24:24.200 --> 2:24:26.400 the niggas they had any time like nigga. 2:24:26.440 --> 2:24:33.280 It was like Nigga, Melly Man, Deaney fat Nigga. Late 2:24:33.760 --> 2:24:34.440 God damn. 2:24:35.320 --> 2:24:36.920 I think you were the last of that era that 2:24:37.040 --> 2:24:40.680 did that. Yeah, yeah, I mean hip operations, be honest. 2:24:40.720 --> 2:24:43.440 To be honest, No, I agree with you. You were 2:24:43.480 --> 2:24:43.760 the last. 2:24:44.400 --> 2:24:47.400 The nineties was no, you're given. 2:24:47.200 --> 2:24:48.400 The nineties is big. 2:24:48.680 --> 2:24:50.800 We had a whole nineties until two thousand. 2:24:51.120 --> 2:24:53.320 So when I believe us a mob deep became like 2:24:53.520 --> 2:24:54.200 after that too. 2:24:54.520 --> 2:24:55.720 You can have to happen. 2:24:55.840 --> 2:24:59.960 But the last full respect you guys, which caught us 2:25:00.040 --> 2:25:01.840 with the Full Rest, which taught up. Yeah, our last 2:25:01.920 --> 2:25:05.320 album was nineteen forty nine, right, yeah, so it taught us. 2:25:05.400 --> 2:25:07.560 And then the era when you guys came up, it 2:25:07.640 --> 2:25:10.360 kind of started, well the last album for the nineties 2:25:10.520 --> 2:25:11.920 for the like that, right right. 2:25:12.160 --> 2:25:14.800 But that's that's what the disconnect started, because I feel 2:25:14.879 --> 2:25:17.680 like this is when hip hop is making real money 2:25:18.520 --> 2:25:21.240 the music of hip hop, the rappers and hip hop. 2:25:21.400 --> 2:25:24.840 So now there's a disconnect between the culture and the music. 2:25:26.040 --> 2:25:29.040 And then the rappers are not paying homage anymore like 2:25:29.120 --> 2:25:33.080 they used to to the ogs, and then that's a disconnect, 2:25:33.120 --> 2:25:36.400 and then the generation that's coming right after that doesn't 2:25:36.440 --> 2:25:37.359 have that same information. 2:25:37.440 --> 2:25:39.680 It came right from what we're saying. When they outlaw 2:25:39.840 --> 2:25:43.800 ass whipmen's and you respect and you respected your elders, 2:25:44.360 --> 2:25:47.240 it's no more, no, no, you can you can never 2:25:47.480 --> 2:25:48.039 do it again. 2:25:48.600 --> 2:25:51.000 But it should never been your kids. 2:25:51.160 --> 2:25:53.720 I can tell certain ages, like when they motherfuckers is back, 2:25:53.840 --> 2:25:56.360 they know you could just say what the they shit 2:25:56.440 --> 2:25:57.680 on themselves, you know what I mean? 2:25:57.920 --> 2:25:59.920 They go outside, go outside and say, yes. 2:26:00.160 --> 2:26:02.400 You ain't turning your fucking home with your teeth. 2:26:02.520 --> 2:26:04.040 She gonna whip your ass tomorrow. 2:26:04.040 --> 2:26:06.440 And then I'm gonna whip your ass. Yo. You was 2:26:06.680 --> 2:26:07.400 like Nick. 2:26:08.879 --> 2:26:09.400 In line. 2:26:10.800 --> 2:26:11.680 Now they like yo. 2:26:13.280 --> 2:26:16.000 If you touch me, I'm calling the cops. Man, Are 2:26:16.040 --> 2:26:17.680 they more gangster than that? I told you? 2:26:17.760 --> 2:26:21.279 I told well, you know what, pack your motherfucking one bag, nigga, 2:26:21.400 --> 2:26:23.320 because you going to the fire apartment. 2:26:23.640 --> 2:26:25.720 I ain't got no adopts in time none. 2:26:25.840 --> 2:26:33.879 Dropping your ass off the knife, little motherfucker bastard. Yeah, 2:26:34.720 --> 2:26:41.160 get the fuck out of here. Pop introduced me the biggie. Wow, 2:26:41.959 --> 2:26:43.760 I would have thought there was the other way around. 2:26:43.800 --> 2:26:44.760 I mean, look what he met. 2:26:49.160 --> 2:26:52.640 Pop introduced me the biggie. I'll tell niggas all the 2:26:52.680 --> 2:26:55.320 time said he in bullshit or this is he met 2:26:55.440 --> 2:26:57.320 Pocket Noddy. 2:26:56.640 --> 2:26:57.680 And bullshit was out? 2:26:58.200 --> 2:27:00.320 It was out, okay, all right? Cool Pop was in 2:27:00.440 --> 2:27:03.960 New York all the time by you know, juice and 2:27:04.000 --> 2:27:07.800 anything else. But he stayed him and Pop Biggie was 2:27:07.840 --> 2:27:09.800 in the studio and all the ship Nigga. 2:27:09.879 --> 2:27:13.320 We was in different times. But I was hottest fish Grease. 2:27:13.800 --> 2:27:15.800 So I'm on the tours and there and then when 2:27:15.840 --> 2:27:18.520 I come in to me, I'm in motherfucking what one 2:27:18.560 --> 2:27:23.360 more chance? Video Biggie and Nigga Nigga when I say 2:27:23.720 --> 2:27:26.080 Pop was my brother. When he introduced me to Big, 2:27:26.160 --> 2:27:29.360 Big became my brother. So that that's why niggas don't 2:27:29.400 --> 2:27:32.640 understand why you ain't never get that Big And I said, nigga, y'all, 2:27:32.680 --> 2:27:35.760 don't underfucking stind nigga. 2:27:36.240 --> 2:27:37.320 Them was my niggas. 2:27:38.200 --> 2:27:40.520 And when your brothers is beef and to us, it's 2:27:40.640 --> 2:27:44.720 like you basically a stalemate. But you like you like this, 2:27:45.000 --> 2:27:48.879 don't neither one of you niggas hit me, neither one 2:27:48.879 --> 2:27:51.400 of you. Motherfucker y'all niggas bet nah hit me. I'm 2:27:51.480 --> 2:27:55.440 telling you I'm motherfucker. Go ahead with that bullshit. I'm like, here, 2:27:55.520 --> 2:27:59.040 I bet I swing on swing. So I'm like and 2:27:59.200 --> 2:27:59.840 then you know. 2:28:02.200 --> 2:28:04.760 It was my niggas man real. 2:28:05.200 --> 2:28:08.080 That's what I got heat in Brooklyn and ship, but 2:28:08.200 --> 2:28:11.120 I had real live Brooklyn. Niggas tell you like, I 2:28:11.400 --> 2:28:15.480 can't go to Brooklyn right now? Yes? Why he defended 2:28:15.520 --> 2:28:18.039 the ice Cube O with Biggie Smalls. I did defend 2:28:18.120 --> 2:28:18.920 him over Biggie. 2:28:19.360 --> 2:28:21.800 Why you put that back out there? People forgot about that. 2:28:23.840 --> 2:28:27.560 Who my favorite artist was, hold on my nigga, hold 2:28:27.600 --> 2:28:32.720 on Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Listen, listen. Chance translation you know 2:28:32.879 --> 2:28:34.279 that was mother fucking fake. 2:28:34.240 --> 2:28:38.120 News out that more that ship been up. I love it, 2:28:38.400 --> 2:28:41.280 but you're my favorite artist was and it's no you. 2:28:41.400 --> 2:28:45.440 Gotta say everybody got I love you to tell me 2:28:45.560 --> 2:28:48.200 who don't tell me I'm your favorite nigga? You out 2:28:48.280 --> 2:28:51.640 this motherfucking trash me in the back like nigga nigga. 2:28:51.720 --> 2:28:52.600 I love to hear who you. 2:28:54.280 --> 2:28:56.760 That's why I loved the other day. I believe it 2:28:56.840 --> 2:28:59.440 was y'all nice and smooth. Where the fun was y'all 2:28:59.480 --> 2:29:04.440 at This wasn't This wasn't in the summer the rock 2:29:04.520 --> 2:29:08.720 the Bells. Yeah, that's that's where it was, Okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:29:08.800 --> 2:29:16.960 yeah yeah yeah yeah like that playing around because they're 2:29:16.959 --> 2:29:19.280 trying to do the Rock the Bells. Cruise. I'm not 2:29:19.400 --> 2:29:21.800 in the cruises. You in the cruises, Hell yeah, you're 2:29:21.840 --> 2:29:24.160 in the cruisers. Yeah, but you can smoke on the cruise. 2:29:24.920 --> 2:29:27.920 I mean, if you don't tell nobody because you go 2:29:28.600 --> 2:29:30.040 throw you off the boat. I feel like I smoked 2:29:30.080 --> 2:29:31.640 too much to be on the cruise. Like I feel 2:29:31.680 --> 2:29:33.560 like like like I feel like even the guy that 2:29:33.600 --> 2:29:35.760 I tipped tell on me. Let me tell you, so, 2:29:35.959 --> 2:29:41.240 you going to this spot right literally your your cabin. 2:29:41.640 --> 2:29:44.320 Is like if you got a balcony, you're good. All 2:29:44.400 --> 2:29:47.000 over the man balconies, right, Yeah, you're good, go on 2:29:47.120 --> 2:29:54.520 your balcony. Like everybody. You look at anybody international waters. 2:29:56.120 --> 2:29:59.080 You go out there, they gotta go put that ship, 2:29:59.680 --> 2:30:02.760 find evidence. You've been on the top joining one. 2:30:03.240 --> 2:30:03.800 Yeah you've been. 2:30:05.320 --> 2:30:09.440 Hipop one. Okay, yeah, yeah, I've been turning them down 2:30:09.480 --> 2:30:12.640 for years. I just don't go out on hurricane season, 2:30:12.879 --> 2:30:21.840 that's all. We don't go out here. I damn get 2:30:22.000 --> 2:30:25.200 you out in the Atlantic Ocean doing you are? 2:30:26.000 --> 2:30:26.200 Did you? 2:30:26.360 --> 2:30:28.800 Did you live in l A for a while. I've 2:30:28.800 --> 2:30:32.039 been out there so so long for like film projects 2:30:32.080 --> 2:30:34.040 and so back then it was like two or three 2:30:34.320 --> 2:30:38.960 months for a movie. Wow, you know so and you 2:30:39.200 --> 2:30:42.240 just there and then when you not and you single, 2:30:42.680 --> 2:30:44.880 and you're like and the homies is out and you 2:30:45.000 --> 2:30:47.480 got fans, tribe and all them. 2:30:50.200 --> 2:30:52.760 RESI in peace, godfather, you know what I'm saying. 2:30:53.280 --> 2:30:57.120 Gangster rid. Yeah, So like you going out and this 2:30:58.080 --> 2:31:00.600 like always events. So I was staying out there. I'll 2:31:00.640 --> 2:31:04.200 be like, damn, I've been out this motherfucker folk months. 2:31:04.520 --> 2:31:07.520 Like to me, as outside of looking in, it seemed 2:31:07.560 --> 2:31:09.600 like LA embraced New York back then. 2:31:09.680 --> 2:31:12.480 New York embraced LA back then. What's the separation? 2:31:13.200 --> 2:31:14.440 When? When did this separation? 2:31:14.600 --> 2:31:16.280 Like kind of like you know what I mean, Like 2:31:17.240 --> 2:31:21.959 it's not even a separation now it's back to you saying, yeah, okay, 2:31:22.080 --> 2:31:22.640 tell you something. 2:31:26.040 --> 2:31:31.279 La niggas is robbing La niggas, but as well, nigga, 2:31:31.480 --> 2:31:34.920 anybody that comes out that's looking like they dripping and 2:31:35.040 --> 2:31:39.440 not secure, right, it's food. It's gang culture is boom 2:31:39.720 --> 2:31:42.720 is You know what I mean? Rockham said it best. 2:31:42.760 --> 2:31:44.560 It ain't with where you're from, where you at. Go 2:31:44.640 --> 2:31:48.400 to Brooklyn and you slipping, go anywhere on the fucking gum, 2:31:48.560 --> 2:31:51.520 to Miami and play around if you fucking want, and 2:31:51.600 --> 2:31:55.080 the ain't checking you feel what I'm saying. It's everywhere 2:31:55.200 --> 2:32:03.280 East Coast, West Coast niggas. Yes, y'all promise you go 2:32:03.400 --> 2:32:05.920 out to LA and turn on kJ LAH and other 2:32:06.000 --> 2:32:06.760 stations and stuff. 2:32:06.840 --> 2:32:09.320 Nigga, they play pop smoke more out there than here. 2:32:09.959 --> 2:32:10.199 Wow. 2:32:10.879 --> 2:32:14.959 Yeah, like you feel I'm saying, honestly, and. 2:32:16.720 --> 2:32:20.040 A gang of just East Coast West Coast artists together 2:32:21.200 --> 2:32:23.160 Cali radio niggas. 2:32:23.200 --> 2:32:26.200 Ain't you coming up and you like that? 2:32:26.320 --> 2:32:29.920 But man, they ain't even if they ain't set tripping, 2:32:29.959 --> 2:32:32.480 They looking for a liqu or something. They like you 2:32:32.640 --> 2:32:35.039 in the foreign and you got one hundred thousand dollars 2:32:35.040 --> 2:32:37.480 worth of jewels on it. You just just out there, 2:32:38.040 --> 2:32:41.560 you fool. And that's in any hood. It ain't No. 2:32:41.760 --> 2:32:44.000 I could tell you niggas ain't like fuck the meast 2:32:44.000 --> 2:32:47.240 coast niggas and niggas ain't a nigga. If you slipping 2:32:47.320 --> 2:32:50.640 and looking too out of pocket, you can get God. 2:32:51.879 --> 2:32:56.320 But other than that, niggas ain't like where are you from? La? 2:32:56.400 --> 2:32:59.160 They asking La niggas where they from? They could tell 2:32:59.200 --> 2:33:03.760 you ain't from light. But yeah, we had a special 2:33:03.840 --> 2:33:06.880 ad on here, right, A special ad said something. He 2:33:06.959 --> 2:33:10.520 said that in w he clarified it though recently. Yeah, 2:33:11.000 --> 2:33:13.400 did you see that finished? I saw it? 2:33:14.320 --> 2:33:16.560 Yeah, he said that was the beginning of the destruction. 2:33:18.200 --> 2:33:20.480 Did you agree with that statement or how did you feel? Like? 2:33:20.560 --> 2:33:22.680 I love special me and I see you get a 2:33:22.840 --> 2:33:24.720 song called I Gotta Gauge. 2:33:26.480 --> 2:33:30.480 I got a right, Yeah, so you're gonna get publishing 2:33:30.600 --> 2:33:36.400 special ad because said over. But the destruction, Nah, you 2:33:36.480 --> 2:33:39.360 gotta understand the greatest thing about hip hop is. 2:33:42.040 --> 2:33:46.400 The diversity. First it was just New York. 2:33:46.440 --> 2:33:49.360 And then when you just heard La mid Jersey and 2:33:50.000 --> 2:33:54.880 down South and Yo, the flavor of it was so phenomenal. 2:33:55.280 --> 2:33:59.840 Of it was like hip hop is not it's for us. 2:34:00.320 --> 2:34:04.080 Then you heard Latin hip hop and its international. Yo, 2:34:04.840 --> 2:34:09.320 It's like you be like yo, right, yeah, So let 2:34:09.360 --> 2:34:10.840 me ask you this is because this is like an 2:34:10.879 --> 2:34:17.600 East Coast hater right here, you fire you New York 2:34:17.680 --> 2:34:21.120 hater New York. He went from a whole coast in 2:34:21.320 --> 2:34:26.600 one he might knew that that say, okay, not the 2:34:26.680 --> 2:34:30.800 East coasts in New York, New York guy, that we 2:34:30.879 --> 2:34:33.120 started this together. By the way, let me just listen, 2:34:33.680 --> 2:34:35.560 by the way, there's a lot of people who feels 2:34:35.640 --> 2:34:39.600 like him. When when when New York everyone was running 2:34:39.640 --> 2:34:42.440 it all right, Jersey feels exactly what you're about to 2:34:42.840 --> 2:34:47.000 Jerseys with us what we want. 2:34:50.600 --> 2:34:54.240 Correct regulated, correct with. 2:34:54.320 --> 2:34:58.760 You about New York one boy, you were there, brother, 2:34:58.879 --> 2:35:02.000 you were there, right, we snuck nigga. 2:35:02.160 --> 2:35:05.680 We had no one to access coach ran ship. 2:35:05.879 --> 2:35:08.360 Right if you if your record was number one on seven, 2:35:08.959 --> 2:35:09.920 your record was number. 2:35:09.760 --> 2:35:11.680 One in the world the East because let's just say 2:35:11.760 --> 2:35:12.120 New York. 2:35:12.560 --> 2:35:16.400 Metropolitany said that's what. 2:35:16.760 --> 2:35:20.360 But that's what we're talking about. The industry was, yeah, 2:35:21.000 --> 2:35:24.800 but listen, at one point we ran it. It was 2:35:24.840 --> 2:35:26.360 like if you was number one in New York, he 2:35:26.440 --> 2:35:28.480 was number one across the world. It hasn't been like 2:35:28.560 --> 2:35:32.440 that for years. Do you think it's because when New 2:35:32.520 --> 2:35:34.360 York was that top, when the New York, New Jersey 2:35:34.560 --> 2:35:35.280 was on top. 2:35:36.879 --> 2:35:43.400 You know, hold on, hold on, hold on, let me 2:35:43.480 --> 2:35:44.959 tell y'all something we were. 2:35:45.720 --> 2:35:46.560 He's from New York. 2:35:46.600 --> 2:35:48.119 You know, Jersey. 2:35:49.720 --> 2:35:51.520 Can. I cannot get an actual fact. 2:35:51.320 --> 2:35:51.880 There right now. 2:35:52.520 --> 2:35:57.560 Jersey his motherfucking don't have no motherfucking team. Every team 2:35:57.600 --> 2:36:02.280 in Jerseys knew you. New York Giants, New York Jazz Nigga, 2:36:02.320 --> 2:36:05.359 the nets was over there. They took to motherfuckers of Brooklyn. 2:36:05.800 --> 2:36:07.840 You fucking jackets. What are you talking about? 2:36:07.879 --> 2:36:11.880 We feel the same fucking way. Georgy keep getting jack by. 2:36:12.000 --> 2:36:13.240 We are the oppressed. 2:36:13.520 --> 2:36:14.720 Do you understand what I'm saying? 2:36:15.040 --> 2:36:17.240 How is just talking about we with y'all said he 2:36:17.600 --> 2:36:20.720 was when we first came on stage in New York, before. 2:36:20.480 --> 2:36:22.199 We was Naughty Nigga. 2:36:23.080 --> 2:36:25.600 We said, listen, we're gonna don't tell them were from 2:36:25.879 --> 2:36:31.920 victim on stage Jersey and up boom no facts facts, 2:36:32.360 --> 2:36:35.480 no learned the fucking lesson went on after that in 2:36:35.640 --> 2:36:38.480 New York ship and rocked them try to sit up, 2:36:38.520 --> 2:36:42.800 and then afterwards saying Jersey, motherfucker, but you made it uptil. 2:36:47.879 --> 2:36:50.160 I had a lot of baby mamas uptown, Nigga. 2:36:50.160 --> 2:36:53.120 I ain't want no problem, no. 2:36:54.280 --> 2:37:00.240 No, but honesty, in all honesty when the East Coast 2:37:00.280 --> 2:37:04.040 was running ship, when the East Coast had it, I 2:37:04.160 --> 2:37:08.320 feel like people like e FN. It feels like not EFN, 2:37:08.480 --> 2:37:10.560 not FN, but people I'm not serious. Let me be 2:37:10.600 --> 2:37:12.400 serious for a second. I feel like people like EFN. 2:37:12.440 --> 2:37:13.800 There's a lot of people. This is people who come 2:37:13.879 --> 2:37:15.680 on here, like when the East Coast had it. They 2:37:15.680 --> 2:37:18.200 didn't like it. They didn't like it, they didn't like arrogance. 2:37:18.280 --> 2:37:20.480 Still like, Man, the way you're explaining this is. 2:37:20.480 --> 2:37:22.880 Completely You explained how how I want I should be 2:37:22.959 --> 2:37:23.760 explaining what I'm saying. 2:37:23.800 --> 2:37:25.640 The way you're explaining is not the way I articulate 2:37:25.800 --> 2:37:30.160 what I'm said. Look, look you tell me howiculated you 2:37:30.200 --> 2:37:34.560 know you. I'm just saying you you guys saying this 2:37:36.400 --> 2:37:39.160 translate we lost it, we lost it, you got it. 2:37:40.920 --> 2:37:46.280 Translations Translations before like in the in the nineties, anywhere 2:37:46.360 --> 2:37:49.800 you went outside of New York, you were here. You 2:37:49.920 --> 2:37:54.000 were here, Chicago music mixed with the hottest ship. 2:37:53.879 --> 2:37:57.920 In New York, right, La music, mostly La mixed with Right. 2:37:58.000 --> 2:37:59.560 I can tell you I called that a couple of 2:37:59.560 --> 2:38:05.039 times up here. Once New York radio started playing all 2:38:05.240 --> 2:38:09.280 South shit and boom everything else, it took the whole 2:38:09.560 --> 2:38:12.440 New York market out of the whole mix everything. 2:38:12.520 --> 2:38:13.039 That's my point. 2:38:13.080 --> 2:38:16.280 As they was playing more of outside music everywhere I go, 2:38:16.440 --> 2:38:18.760 Like I said, even Cali, Cali, you'll go here Cali 2:38:18.920 --> 2:38:22.120 artists right now you never heard before. But it's mixed 2:38:22.160 --> 2:38:24.400 in with East Coast shit as well. But they playing 2:38:24.520 --> 2:38:28.560 more Cali stuff down South Georgia. You hear more the 2:38:28.680 --> 2:38:32.000 South shit mixed in. You go off to New York, 2:38:32.080 --> 2:38:35.840 they playing all fucking South shit, motherfucking shit, and a 2:38:36.000 --> 2:38:40.040 minute number of New York artists or East Coast regional artists. 2:38:40.480 --> 2:38:41.520 So that's the problem. 2:38:42.000 --> 2:38:44.280 But what he's saying that I've tried to I'm saying, 2:38:44.520 --> 2:38:47.720 you motherfucker did it. What I said is that in 2:38:48.120 --> 2:38:50.920 the in let's just say, when hip hop is starting 2:38:50.959 --> 2:38:54.320 to take the industry by store, the industry the music 2:38:54.480 --> 2:38:58.080 industry of hip hop is centralizing New York. So they were, 2:38:58.320 --> 2:39:01.000 in a sense, the gatekeepers and the people that worked 2:39:01.000 --> 2:39:03.720 there were New York centric. So if it wasn't sounding 2:39:03.840 --> 2:39:06.040 or looking like New York, they didn't sign it, and 2:39:06.120 --> 2:39:07.720 they didn't they didn't put it out, they didn't market, 2:39:07.879 --> 2:39:08.680 and that's what's happening. 2:39:08.760 --> 2:39:11.880 Well, he said that the translation I agree, yeah, you 2:39:12.000 --> 2:39:16.960 agree with me translation which included Jersey. That's what I'm saying. 2:39:17.040 --> 2:39:22.680 You got excluded Jersey with us was with us. 2:39:24.080 --> 2:39:25.800 It took him a lot of work. He was right, 2:39:26.200 --> 2:39:29.039 and and Redman had to have a New York click. 2:39:30.040 --> 2:39:33.640 Depth jam death squads every Jersey. The person said the 2:39:33.720 --> 2:39:37.080 same thing, but you you was correct as far as 2:39:38.120 --> 2:39:42.960 Motherfuckers was like, oh New York ain't hitting like that 2:39:43.160 --> 2:39:46.560 no more. In our reason, we're gonna play the majority. 2:39:46.680 --> 2:39:49.039 I should install him out, all right, all. 2:39:48.959 --> 2:39:51.280 Right, because I remember at one time I used to 2:39:51.320 --> 2:39:53.840 go to Minnesota and all I heard was New York. 2:39:54.200 --> 2:39:57.520 Like I would go, I would go anywhere, and the 2:39:57.640 --> 2:39:59.200 whole hip hooet. Let me just tell you saying that 2:39:59.240 --> 2:40:01.840 ship looked up to you that you was hearing the 2:40:01.879 --> 2:40:04.440 shit in New York. The artists came out okay, and 2:40:04.520 --> 2:40:05.840 they said it wasn't playing New York. 2:40:06.040 --> 2:40:09.400 He gain't in the stations in the hotel again. 2:40:09.720 --> 2:40:11.840 Point it is the cheeko. Anywhere I went, I could 2:40:11.879 --> 2:40:15.160 just say it's Brooklyn. People will go crazy. 2:40:16.600 --> 2:40:18.000 That's what that was. What was corny? 2:40:18.120 --> 2:40:19.600 What they did? What Hammer put on the. 2:40:20.320 --> 2:40:22.080 You ain't hitting in New York. Hammer. 2:40:22.600 --> 2:40:29.840 Yeah, Remember he was living all over the world. It 2:40:30.000 --> 2:40:33.400 was all over the Literally, he was saying, fuck New York. 2:40:33.640 --> 2:40:36.440 He was. I did, but I didn't realize that was this. 2:40:37.400 --> 2:40:40.199 Oh hell, we here on New York him. 2:40:41.600 --> 2:40:44.560 He was on left and Ryan, Yeah, he deserves it. 2:40:46.320 --> 2:40:47.520 Your hand, we need you on drink. 2:40:48.800 --> 2:40:53.920 Yeah, I'm gonna go there. Holy Ship, water bell Break Yeah, 2:40:54.640 --> 2:40:55.320 Holy Ship. 2:40:55.520 --> 2:40:58.680 Yeah. In fact, so it's Notaty gonna do another album. 2:40:59.360 --> 2:41:02.920 I mean not in the near future. But I'll never 2:41:03.000 --> 2:41:04.360 say never than nothing. 2:41:04.600 --> 2:41:10.279 But it's like now, I wanted to do albums consecutively 2:41:10.440 --> 2:41:11.400 every year, no matter what. 2:41:11.840 --> 2:41:13.840 But at our. 2:41:13.840 --> 2:41:17.160 Hottest, like we were on the road for like two years, 2:41:17.200 --> 2:41:19.880 so it was like it wasn't like a road studio 2:41:20.080 --> 2:41:22.760 and all that, you know, So I understood, but after 2:41:22.840 --> 2:41:24.920 the fact, it's like, yo, I'm you. 2:41:25.000 --> 2:41:27.280 Know you cant to just say that, You should just 2:41:27.280 --> 2:41:28.879 say you was on the road for two years. 2:41:29.560 --> 2:41:29.760 Yeah. 2:41:29.879 --> 2:41:32.080 When we came out, we was doing two and three 2:41:32.120 --> 2:41:32.760 shows a night. 2:41:34.560 --> 2:41:36.840 I mean we did the Apollo Theater three times in 2:41:36.920 --> 2:41:41.960 one day, a seven o'clock show, on a nine o'clock show, 2:41:41.959 --> 2:41:45.320 an eleven o'clock show, and we thought the balconies was 2:41:45.360 --> 2:41:50.119 gonna bust out. Oh p p jump shure shure. Motherfuckers. 2:41:50.320 --> 2:41:52.360 Jumping nigga felt like an earthquake. I know it came 2:41:52.400 --> 2:41:58.960 on a Rickter scale, but holy shit. Yeah, yeah, facts, 2:41:59.160 --> 2:42:06.000 goddamn it. Man. Yeah, movies, movies, acting, modeling, A model 2:42:06.040 --> 2:42:07.800 for Tommy Hill figure for years. 2:42:08.240 --> 2:42:10.440 Really yeah, Tommy Hill. 2:42:10.560 --> 2:42:15.320 Yeah, Andy, love you Tommy and Andy. They signed off 2:42:15.360 --> 2:42:18.640 from Big Bags for me. I love them Aaliyah, We 2:42:18.879 --> 2:42:20.359 was Miley, Kate Moss. 2:42:20.879 --> 2:42:21.360 All of us. 2:42:21.520 --> 2:42:24.360 Damn you and you knew all these motherfuckers. Hell yeah, God, 2:42:24.480 --> 2:42:33.240 damn hell, motherfucker superstar Frans motherfuckulation. Man. 2:42:33.480 --> 2:42:35.240 Yeah, damn. 2:42:35.360 --> 2:42:38.160 We spoke about let me let me, let me let 2:42:38.240 --> 2:42:40.400 me do a little twist that same question I asked 2:42:40.440 --> 2:42:43.440 you earlier, what are some some things did you miss 2:42:43.440 --> 2:42:44.600 about jam Master J? 2:42:45.200 --> 2:42:45.960 Jam Master J. 2:42:46.440 --> 2:42:46.480 Is. 2:42:47.440 --> 2:42:51.560 It's just y'all understand when DJing came to the forefront 2:42:51.640 --> 2:42:55.119 as far or really with the thanks of run DMC, 2:42:55.800 --> 2:43:00.240 because like and the era, because artists, you used to 2:43:00.280 --> 2:43:04.960 make records about DJs. It's my dj M. And when 2:43:05.040 --> 2:43:07.600 Jam was cutting then when you see him live and 2:43:07.720 --> 2:43:11.760 he really was cutting in Yo, it was crazy. I 2:43:11.879 --> 2:43:17.200 missed that element of him because he was producing and 2:43:17.360 --> 2:43:21.160 doing and and but we'll talk about crazy ship. 2:43:23.120 --> 2:43:27.000 Yeah, like you know, running running over here did go 2:43:27.040 --> 2:43:27.400 over here? 2:43:27.800 --> 2:43:30.800 Jay was with the niggas, Like Jay is saying he's 2:43:30.800 --> 2:43:34.720 smoking you know what I mean, he's smoking anything. So 2:43:35.000 --> 2:43:37.440 we used to talk about aliens. Do we think like 2:43:37.560 --> 2:43:39.560 it's funny because we were talking about troop of Cobbra. 2:43:40.480 --> 2:43:42.040 Do we believe like aliens? 2:43:42.240 --> 2:43:44.160 I believe the troop of Coppin. I don't believe it aliens, 2:43:44.200 --> 2:43:48.000 but I believe aliens too. 2:43:48.160 --> 2:43:50.640 So we had the conversation Jay used to I used 2:43:50.680 --> 2:43:52.160 to love because he thought like I thought. 2:43:52.440 --> 2:43:55.400 I mean, he was like, tell him that ship again. 2:43:55.520 --> 2:43:58.120 Trust I'm like, yo, y'all think out of the whole 2:43:59.040 --> 2:44:02.200 universe and gallaxies, we just planet right here. 2:44:03.360 --> 2:44:07.640 All these billions of planets ain't no motherfuckers smart talking 2:44:07.680 --> 2:44:10.120 to each other like us, or I can go to 2:44:10.200 --> 2:44:13.560 a planet near them or something or way advancing us. 2:44:14.000 --> 2:44:16.000 We on our dig that much out of the whole 2:44:17.160 --> 2:44:20.320 universal planets in the galaxies, were the only one. 2:44:21.560 --> 2:44:24.640 And I said, he said, so where you think they fun? Trust? 2:44:24.720 --> 2:44:28.720 I said, I think a lot of them is already here. 2:44:28.800 --> 2:44:33.320 They underwater so deep they just fly up coming outano 2:44:33.720 --> 2:44:36.240 like they in the planet. They are coming out of 2:44:36.320 --> 2:44:41.800 the planet and they way more. But you'll be like, yo, 2:44:42.040 --> 2:44:45.080 trust you and gmsd Yo. We used to be talking 2:44:45.080 --> 2:44:50.640 about other ship. We had good weed. Nigga like, yeah, 2:44:53.240 --> 2:44:57.920 spoke spoke talking about playing it. Motherfucker. All planets and 2:44:58.640 --> 2:45:02.360 aliens now everything you my immigrants nigga. You know Nigga 2:45:03.080 --> 2:45:06.880 said that has we talked about planets and extra terrestrial 2:45:07.320 --> 2:45:09.120 et Nigga, So. 2:45:09.200 --> 2:45:10.959 Let me fill up that question on you one more time. 2:45:14.160 --> 2:45:18.119 What is something you missed about big pun Big Pun Yo. 2:45:18.400 --> 2:45:19.439 This nigga. 2:45:23.080 --> 2:45:27.920 Just how he raised the fucking bar on lyrics like 2:45:28.160 --> 2:45:31.840 this nigga was saying something and the nigga was so 2:45:32.080 --> 2:45:32.760 fucking big. 2:45:33.040 --> 2:45:36.920 He nigga, he he mastered. 2:45:36.640 --> 2:45:41.080 Breathing in between his lyrics, where once he put his 2:45:41.200 --> 2:45:42.160 ad libs and stuff. 2:45:42.520 --> 2:45:43.320 You can't hear it. 2:45:45.120 --> 2:45:48.360 He couldn't even sit in the chairs. Yeah, he'll fall 2:45:48.400 --> 2:45:51.000 aship like right, and then he was lay the lyrics 2:45:51.040 --> 2:45:53.240 on the couch, come right back in and you and 2:45:53.560 --> 2:45:59.320 what he putting on you Like, what the fuck? This 2:45:59.600 --> 2:46:05.000 nigga is amazing that in the middle of literally that 2:46:05.120 --> 2:46:05.480 we would do. 2:46:05.600 --> 2:46:08.640 Some little men who didn't do I'm like, nigga, I'm 2:46:08.640 --> 2:46:11.440 writing the nights nigga. 2:46:12.520 --> 2:46:14.200 This nigga here got me. 2:46:14.680 --> 2:46:16.000 I got to get better. 2:46:16.200 --> 2:46:19.080 This nigga is like the lyrics like and then he 2:46:19.280 --> 2:46:22.360 he harmonized the thing with hip hop. You you never 2:46:22.480 --> 2:46:25.000 had to be no singer and Uncle res in PA's 2:46:25.080 --> 2:46:30.120 uncle biz shows you that you killed the O d 2:46:30.360 --> 2:46:34.400 B to sometimes any of us, I can't hold a 2:46:34.440 --> 2:46:39.000 no TJ Swan we're talking about we're not going. 2:46:43.440 --> 2:46:48.120 So I think that he was the first one their No, 2:46:48.879 --> 2:46:51.320 he didn't no order soon that. 2:46:51.440 --> 2:46:59.560 Was that is real, not no sing like you. 2:47:01.440 --> 2:47:03.879 On all the hooks. Let me ask you this though. 2:47:05.640 --> 2:47:06.120 He caught that. 2:47:08.080 --> 2:47:12.760 He's out yet, Okay, Tupac Loyal to the Game featuring 2:47:12.840 --> 2:47:15.240 you what's that above the rim sound track? 2:47:15.600 --> 2:47:15.800 Yeah? 2:47:16.440 --> 2:47:19.240 How did that record? Come about just in the studio 2:47:19.600 --> 2:47:22.520 high but like this unique studio for some reason. 2:47:22.680 --> 2:47:25.760 No, the funny thing is me and Poc. 2:47:27.240 --> 2:47:30.440 We got records like all over the country, like where 2:47:30.480 --> 2:47:32.440 they're at and who owns them now or have them? 2:47:32.560 --> 2:47:35.160 Like the studios we used to go and just get 2:47:35.240 --> 2:47:36.240 in motherfucker's studio. 2:47:36.560 --> 2:47:38.560 It wasn't like you get a hard drive back then 2:47:38.680 --> 2:47:42.720 and you exchange numbers and then. But if niggas numbers changed, 2:47:43.080 --> 2:47:46.440 we did a million songs. But that deadly finit it's. 2:47:46.360 --> 2:47:46.600 Like the. 2:47:50.560 --> 2:47:52.600 You know how you record now and somebody could be 2:47:52.640 --> 2:47:55.760 in Miami because YO want it. You had to be 2:47:55.840 --> 2:47:59.360 in a studio say it all the time. That's why. 2:48:01.200 --> 2:48:03.440 The thing is you writing your ship while you're hearing 2:48:03.560 --> 2:48:10.560 other niggas right there and you and that energy there. 2:48:11.360 --> 2:48:14.000 So it was basically just a record niggas get on 2:48:14.080 --> 2:48:16.280 there and just try to out round the next nigger 2:48:16.400 --> 2:48:16.879 nigga like. 2:48:17.720 --> 2:48:21.400 But this is you park though. Yeah, but we were 2:48:21.520 --> 2:48:25.120 like this he looking at you, I'll go over to motherfucker. 2:48:25.160 --> 2:48:26.920 I look at his fat like I ain't gonna know 2:48:27.000 --> 2:48:27.640 how he flowing. 2:48:30.200 --> 2:48:34.600 Yeah, I'm right, I can let him see my fat. 2:48:35.800 --> 2:48:39.680 Yeah yeah, we can't read is like hieroglyphics and ship. 2:48:40.400 --> 2:48:42.640 You know, it's scary. Only person that read my fucking 2:48:42.680 --> 2:48:46.000 ship read my writing Kanye West. 2:48:46.440 --> 2:48:48.080 Kanye, he read my ship perfect. 2:48:48.280 --> 2:48:51.760 Like I had a rhyme in my thing and we 2:48:51.920 --> 2:48:56.720 was at Carbone and ready fast. I had no I 2:48:56.800 --> 2:48:59.640 had a whole rhyme written out, and like I can 2:48:59.680 --> 2:48:59.920 show you. 2:49:00.560 --> 2:49:02.040 You're gonna look at it. You are going to know 2:49:02.040 --> 2:49:05.800 how to say it read myself. I was like, oh, 2:49:05.920 --> 2:49:06.800 get up, pall. 2:49:08.560 --> 2:49:08.600 You. 2:49:13.680 --> 2:49:14.560 He's very smart. 2:49:14.600 --> 2:49:17.760 He said that some intelligence ship. Let's go to unreal 2:49:17.840 --> 2:49:22.520 niggas with Redman, Jamal and Scarface. What's y'all in the 2:49:22.600 --> 2:49:26.200 studio together? Had to be There was no flying this 2:49:26.560 --> 2:49:31.040 verse into There was no machines like that. So everywhere 2:49:31.080 --> 2:49:34.879 we would go, it would be straight from whether we're 2:49:34.920 --> 2:49:38.080 doing the show usually, and it'll be before we do 2:49:38.240 --> 2:49:40.160 the show because after that ship, we had the party 2:49:40.240 --> 2:49:45.200 fucking with the bitches. So we do it and then well, 2:49:45.280 --> 2:49:46.959 really a lot of times we'd be like, we're going 2:49:47.000 --> 2:49:50.160 to the studio afterwards. There ain't no parties or nothing, 2:49:50.360 --> 2:49:52.879 because you bring every the party to the studio. 2:49:53.920 --> 2:49:57.840 Yeah, so yeah, let me let me ask you a 2:49:57.920 --> 2:50:01.119 mixtape DJ one do you remember doing? And maybe I'm 2:50:01.120 --> 2:50:04.760 wrong by year, but the live mixtape, the freestyle you 2:50:04.800 --> 2:50:06.800 did for that, I don't even remember that. 2:50:06.920 --> 2:50:09.960 You don't remember it? No, God man, your verse on 2:50:10.040 --> 2:50:13.360 that is bananas. I don't remember. Well, we're gonna have 2:50:13.400 --> 2:50:14.119 to play it on here. 2:50:14.320 --> 2:50:15.600 We'll play it. Yeah. 2:50:16.760 --> 2:50:23.360 Well, Damian Marley featuring you and Bounty Killer, how did 2:50:23.400 --> 2:50:24.320 that record come about? 2:50:24.720 --> 2:50:28.680 Nigga? We was in Jamaica and kings that what I 2:50:28.760 --> 2:50:30.440 was what I wanted to know that it actually we 2:50:30.560 --> 2:50:35.960 went to a tough going studio. The label is the record, 2:50:36.040 --> 2:50:42.039 label is the studio. The actual was it incense? Burning incense, 2:50:44.120 --> 2:50:48.920 that's what you call it now? Youngsters? They had they 2:50:49.040 --> 2:50:53.199 had us. They had us in amazing drag on nigga. 2:50:53.600 --> 2:50:56.440 We was like doing show out. This had us all 2:50:56.520 --> 2:50:58.560 and while we was in there, they had the studio. 2:50:58.760 --> 2:51:03.119 So it was uh ziggy all of them. They had 2:51:03.200 --> 2:51:07.120 us in a straight gated with the gunment outside of 2:51:07.280 --> 2:51:09.120 it and then took us to the studio. 2:51:09.200 --> 2:51:12.879 We were in the studio. It was straight. 2:51:14.320 --> 2:51:19.480 It's different than Jamaica garbage bags hefties straight. It's like 2:51:19.600 --> 2:51:27.200 this brown on the stick, like this this dude garbage 2:51:27.240 --> 2:51:31.280 bag yards. Don't pass blunts to each other. Everybody got 2:51:31.320 --> 2:51:34.880 their own spliffing and your your feel me everybody, So 2:51:35.600 --> 2:51:39.160 motherfucker bags. We just rolling this ship, this brown ass 2:51:39.200 --> 2:51:42.039 ship like smoke. That motherfucking ship. 2:51:42.480 --> 2:51:51.240 Nig they turned on the beat. It was over done. 2:51:53.600 --> 2:51:54.879 That's it, that barn. 2:51:55.360 --> 2:52:01.800 What do you need if right now I said you 2:52:01.840 --> 2:52:02.920 can work with one producer? 2:52:03.400 --> 2:52:06.120 Mm hm, So I want you to pick one producer 2:52:06.520 --> 2:52:08.040 and then I want you to pick three things that 2:52:08.120 --> 2:52:10.600 you need to go in the studio and make make 2:52:10.640 --> 2:52:11.000 a record. 2:52:11.080 --> 2:52:15.440 Right now. Who's that one producer right now? It would 2:52:15.440 --> 2:52:19.840 probably be Dre. You ever did a joint with Dre? 2:52:20.680 --> 2:52:20.720 No? 2:52:21.680 --> 2:52:25.920 Oh no, double lot ma back up being this bis 2:52:26.080 --> 2:52:29.440 babe Bank with two new caddies and a new grand baby. 2:52:29.480 --> 2:52:32.600 Bank won't do a solo album lesson fucking with Shade Day. 2:52:33.400 --> 2:52:36.520 Oh yeah, I'll fuck around with So you're fucking around 2:52:36.560 --> 2:52:37.400 with Dre, that'd be you. 2:52:38.680 --> 2:52:41.920 That'd be my go to go to okay now because 2:52:41.920 --> 2:52:44.800 he yeah, Because then I know I could really infiltrate 2:52:44.840 --> 2:52:46.280 and get a song with Eminem too. 2:52:47.320 --> 2:52:48.440 That's my light skinned twin. 2:52:50.400 --> 2:52:53.560 Jesus Joseph, I'm losing my focus hocus pocus. Hold that 2:52:53.640 --> 2:52:56.040 I brought to guns and roses from Moses following me 2:52:56.200 --> 2:52:59.400 like Gandhi, Amighty Gandhi, Oni m me with hom Andy, 2:52:59.480 --> 2:53:02.920 Mommy got Jumanji Ganji. I mean I'm them, I'm that, 2:53:03.160 --> 2:53:05.640 that's them, and that's that. No wins wins, no bland 2:53:05.680 --> 2:53:08.800 Man's since the black Blasts. I raised Rookie Posy Klott, 2:53:09.000 --> 2:53:12.760 no Nookie. We all ball on from Jersey. Fuck Snookie. 2:53:12.959 --> 2:53:15.640 We rock clock with ros Klotts, skin out. That's that'side. 2:53:15.680 --> 2:53:19.200 Putt bombs on boomerangs and take out the rumor gay 2:53:19.520 --> 2:53:24.879 lost that see epics. Tanisavo small world. But we'll be giganic. 2:53:25.160 --> 2:53:28.119 You ain't hard enough to hit win, knockdown, Brett, fight 2:53:28.240 --> 2:53:31.160 through rain. Here's the perfect packag skin and rappers with 2:53:31.280 --> 2:53:33.560 my name. And if you can't say hello with the 2:53:33.640 --> 2:53:36.480 same show, don't sit your r b ass in the 2:53:36.600 --> 2:53:39.080 same ro ho like Dre. Do some shit on it. 2:53:39.680 --> 2:53:40.440 I know we'll go. 2:53:40.640 --> 2:53:43.039 So you and m have never worked, nah, and it's 2:53:43.080 --> 2:53:45.480 crazy because m has that Jersey connection through the outside. 2:53:45.600 --> 2:53:47.440 Is that helped usher men as well? 2:53:48.240 --> 2:53:49.480 Hold on, you're gonna just skip over this. 2:53:49.560 --> 2:53:50.240 You just said Fox. 2:53:50.280 --> 2:53:53.879 LOOKI nah, just cause I was mad at Snooky because 2:53:53.879 --> 2:53:56.680 she was on Jersey show. She's not from Jersey. But 2:53:56.840 --> 2:53:59.120 that wasn't why I wasn't mad at her. They asked 2:53:59.160 --> 2:54:02.800 her one time, Oh, so the Nets are no longer 2:54:03.080 --> 2:54:05.960 in New Jersey. If Jersey had another team, what would 2:54:05.959 --> 2:54:11.360 you call them? She said, the Losers. You ain't from Jersey, 2:54:11.480 --> 2:54:14.240 you can't say ship about So you know that was 2:54:14.360 --> 2:54:19.039 just a you know, sorry, Yeah it was yeah, fucker. 2:54:19.400 --> 2:54:23.720 She's been a complete avenue. Yeah, yeah, yo, Tretch. 2:54:23.800 --> 2:54:26.199 I'll just telling you, man, our show was about giving 2:54:26.200 --> 2:54:32.640 people flowers. Man, your icon breaking news, real nigga alert, 2:54:32.920 --> 2:54:39.640 nigga I got. Yeah. 2:54:40.000 --> 2:54:42.640 Well, I just wanted to tell you, face to face, man, 2:54:42.720 --> 2:54:45.760 and man, how dope you are, how dope your legacy is, 2:54:46.040 --> 2:54:49.480 how dope your group legacy is, How how tremendous you 2:54:49.560 --> 2:54:52.360 could transition and and and and and do you know 2:54:52.560 --> 2:54:54.600 movies and all this crazy ship that you've been a 2:54:54.680 --> 2:54:55.400 part of and all this. 2:54:55.800 --> 2:54:57.400 Man, we want to just tell you, as a man, 2:54:58.080 --> 2:55:00.960 we respect you. You know what I mean. We we 2:55:01.160 --> 2:55:03.800 honor you, We honor you, and we wanted we wanted 2:55:03.800 --> 2:55:04.320 to give your. 2:55:04.280 --> 2:55:06.560 Flowers, man, because that's what this is about It takes 2:55:06.600 --> 2:55:08.720 nothing away from us to tell you how great. 2:55:08.520 --> 2:55:10.880 You are because you are wanted the great you are. 2:55:11.000 --> 2:55:14.760 I can your motherfucking Titanic, your motherfucking you know, all 2:55:14.840 --> 2:55:17.400 that ship. So you know, I was, I was, so 2:55:17.560 --> 2:55:19.760 I've seen you. I was like, yo, man, like you know, 2:55:19.879 --> 2:55:20.640 I want people to know. 2:55:20.760 --> 2:55:21.760 I asked you. You know what I'm saying. 2:55:21.760 --> 2:55:23.400 I was like, yo, bro, I think it's time you 2:55:23.480 --> 2:55:26.000 to come back to the show, because you know it's time. 2:55:26.080 --> 2:55:28.120 And you know, as the show got bigger, it's getting 2:55:28.120 --> 2:55:29.439 bigger and bigger and bigger. 2:55:29.280 --> 2:55:29.959 It's getting big. 2:55:30.080 --> 2:55:40.120 Yeah. Yeah, I just want to yeah yeah, but we 2:55:40.560 --> 2:55:42.480 we want to get it to people that deserve it, man, 2:55:42.520 --> 2:55:44.640 and you deserve it. Man. I'm so proud of you. 2:55:44.720 --> 2:55:46.720 And so you know, the continued suss. 2:55:46.920 --> 2:55:49.200 Like I said, man, one of the one of the 2:55:49.280 --> 2:55:51.920 best things of the night was, you know, I got 2:55:51.959 --> 2:55:53.560 to see you before, before I got to see you, 2:55:53.640 --> 2:55:56.280 you know, tear it down, but me seeing college like 2:55:56.400 --> 2:55:59.680 he went to a little kid move like I never 2:55:59.760 --> 2:56:01.119 see it's. 2:56:01.040 --> 2:56:02.080 A picture pull up. 2:56:02.920 --> 2:56:05.760 When KG had the house in West Orange and we 2:56:05.840 --> 2:56:07.680 had Naughty by Nature at the pool, I had the 2:56:07.760 --> 2:56:14.240 summer parties. Uh nas a z kalid a gang had 2:56:14.280 --> 2:56:15.160 a picture together. 2:56:15.520 --> 2:56:19.000 But Calid was there. He was looking at the man. 2:56:19.240 --> 2:56:24.560 He was like and looking. He said, I'm going kid here, 2:56:25.840 --> 2:56:29.360 I said. I looked at him like I know you 2:56:29.640 --> 2:56:32.800 is yes, and you know why he was callous. 2:56:34.000 --> 2:56:36.040 No, But to see him go back into fan mode 2:56:36.160 --> 2:56:38.160 like that the other day because he didn't know I 2:56:38.280 --> 2:56:42.720 was watching him like like he literally said, we was 2:56:42.760 --> 2:56:45.560 both And then I said hi to him myself. And 2:56:45.640 --> 2:56:48.320 then you know, I had on the Monico LV jacket 2:56:48.360 --> 2:56:50.080 that you know, No, you gotta go to Monico to 2:56:50.120 --> 2:56:57.120 get that, you know what I mean. So then I 2:56:57.240 --> 2:57:00.360 believe Young him c got off. When Young and s 2:57:00.560 --> 2:57:02.360 got off, I was like, you know, bust the move. 2:57:02.800 --> 2:57:05.560 I was sitting there like still open and I'm looking 2:57:05.640 --> 2:57:08.640 at College because I guess Jamie must have told him. 2:57:09.080 --> 2:57:11.240 Jamie left Freights have told him like Trech is closing it. 2:57:11.600 --> 2:57:13.959 So College is sitting there like a real fan. 2:57:14.120 --> 2:57:15.480 He's just like, yo, my god. 2:57:15.560 --> 2:57:18.800 He didn't nothing Like you could have threw popcorn in 2:57:18.879 --> 2:57:21.720 his face. He wouldn't have moved like. He just stood 2:57:21.760 --> 2:57:23.680 there and he was just zoned in and he was 2:57:23.720 --> 2:57:26.560 just watching you. And I'm watching him and to me, 2:57:28.440 --> 2:57:30.920 that's what passion is. You know what I'm saying, Like 2:57:31.000 --> 2:57:34.640 all these echoes looking, I'm looking at tone low but 2:57:35.160 --> 2:57:39.240 rob Base, you see, I'm like me too. That's how 2:57:39.320 --> 2:57:45.440 I was. Was one of the best records of all 2:57:45.480 --> 2:57:45.920 time too. 2:57:46.200 --> 2:57:49.560 Well, Robb Rose, you know, it's. 2:57:49.400 --> 2:57:52.879 So dope to see him perform because you know it's 2:57:53.000 --> 2:57:56.279 it's it's joy hold up it up and pain. 2:57:58.000 --> 2:58:04.120 Shut shine. You're waiting for that. You're waiting for you 2:58:04.280 --> 2:58:07.199 take two. But then you realize it and it's fifteen 2:58:07.320 --> 2:58:10.840 twenty minutes. Well you ain't even hearing him song, none 2:58:10.840 --> 2:58:13.600 of them. And then motherfucker's rocking the crock in the crowd. Bro, 2:58:14.240 --> 2:58:19.000 it's a difference, like yo, straight up all the tone 2:58:19.080 --> 2:58:20.320 low wow. 2:58:20.240 --> 2:58:23.880 Man, bring the white girls on stage. 2:58:24.000 --> 2:58:31.360 Yeah, yeah, he was over here, take this out here, 2:58:31.520 --> 2:58:38.280 like like I was like, oh ship, It's like, you know, 2:58:38.400 --> 2:58:40.920 it was ill because we were talking, but in between talks, 2:58:40.959 --> 2:58:46.199 we're like, yeah, Cole Madina going back, what right. 2:58:46.879 --> 2:58:48.520 Like Nigga were watching this year. 2:58:49.280 --> 2:58:51.720 So man, I just want to say, man, I want 2:58:51.720 --> 2:58:53.360 to think hip hop. Man, I want to think hip 2:58:53.400 --> 2:58:55.920 hop for you know, saving all of our lives in 2:58:56.000 --> 2:58:58.320 this room. You know, what I'm saying and being a 2:58:58.360 --> 2:59:00.560 part of our lives in this room, and you know, 2:59:00.840 --> 2:59:02.600 for you to you know this, this is the group 2:59:02.680 --> 2:59:05.720 called the All and they all came out, they all 2:59:05.800 --> 2:59:09.800 made shaw Yeah they never they came out just just 2:59:09.959 --> 2:59:17.320 so beautiful. Yes, yes, yeah, that's like because you're a legend, man, 2:59:17.400 --> 2:59:20.320 You're an icon, and you truly is the person that 2:59:20.520 --> 2:59:22.440 you know what I mean, has to be saluted man 2:59:22.560 --> 2:59:25.120 day in and day out. Man and and and for 2:59:25.600 --> 2:59:28.160 people that don't know, Tretch is a real one. Man, 2:59:28.520 --> 2:59:30.800 I swear to God man and you know, more time 2:59:30.920 --> 2:59:38.440 goddamn against Yeah, no, no, you know what, it's the 2:59:38.520 --> 2:59:40.120 hennessy Tretch I was I was thinking of. 2:59:41.959 --> 2:59:45.600 But you know what rest in peace Tahim. You was 2:59:45.640 --> 2:59:51.080 a part of Taheem's movie. You iced Tea and standard. Yeah, 2:59:51.360 --> 2:59:53.440 tell us, tell us about that. How did that man 2:59:53.680 --> 2:59:57.000 rest in peace? To the peace? QB? Like he was 2:59:57.800 --> 3:00:01.280 a genius, Like he was going do south Side the series. 3:00:02.000 --> 3:00:06.160 Like when I first met him, he was so charismatic. 3:00:06.600 --> 3:00:08.920 He had just did a bid and everything else and 3:00:09.040 --> 3:00:11.959 he just told me his ideas on what he was doing. 3:00:13.400 --> 3:00:20.320 And you know, I'm sitting back, I'm like, let me 3:00:20.400 --> 3:00:23.920 get a email, give me, don't give me the whole script. 3:00:24.160 --> 3:00:24.760 Do you got it? 3:00:26.800 --> 3:00:31.000 Patted? He was like, I said, the first thing you 3:00:31.080 --> 3:00:34.560 do for you sending anybody giving it to him, email. 3:00:34.280 --> 3:00:35.560 It to yourself. It's a record. 3:00:35.640 --> 3:00:39.480 You had a whole script back, that's poor man's copyright. 3:00:40.440 --> 3:00:43.520 So from that, and when we said email it to yourself, 3:00:45.840 --> 3:00:49.560 you got it. Postmart If y'all get an idea of something, 3:00:50.080 --> 3:00:56.959 email it to the other of the actual pep. It's 3:00:57.000 --> 3:01:00.280 before you foul off or lead the copyright. That's then 3:01:00.400 --> 3:01:03.600 the cruise that you had that niggas stole that shit 3:01:03.680 --> 3:01:07.400 from us, you know, hey me So yeah, So we 3:01:07.600 --> 3:01:09.200 just talked like that. He was like, yeah, I'm doing 3:01:09.240 --> 3:01:10.760 the move. And I said, he saved me a role 3:01:11.240 --> 3:01:13.160 when I'm feeling the motherfucker, I'm like, save me. And 3:01:13.280 --> 3:01:19.280 Ryan asked, have whatever the budget. So when you have 3:01:19.400 --> 3:01:23.520 low budget stuff of films, not even low fifty hundred thousand, 3:01:23.879 --> 3:01:26.480 that's a nice budget, but to pay everybody and do everything, 3:01:26.520 --> 3:01:29.400 I just say, give me a producer's credit and a 3:01:29.560 --> 3:01:33.120 few dollars bow and I'm promoted and do all that. 3:01:33.320 --> 3:01:37.200 And you know it's like us, like y'all doing y'all 3:01:37.600 --> 3:01:40.480 ride with each other, y'all work together. You get the 3:01:40.560 --> 3:01:44.039 cameras like a crew, like we're gonna get more moves. 3:01:43.840 --> 3:01:45.440 To make it pop up. 3:01:45.680 --> 3:01:48.160 So that's what happened when you were yeah, yeah, yeah, 3:01:48.560 --> 3:01:49.800 he was Yo. 3:01:49.959 --> 3:01:52.959 He Ice came on. You know Ice. 3:01:53.040 --> 3:01:56.279 He been twenty three years in Little Norton even acting anything. 3:01:57.040 --> 3:01:59.720 So usually you have a slate. It goes like stop 3:02:00.640 --> 3:02:03.039 boom says you feel me. You got so much ship, 3:02:03.080 --> 3:02:05.200 you gotta track it through the numbers on the slate. 3:02:06.640 --> 3:02:10.200 So Todd just called accent. I used to be like, 3:02:10.640 --> 3:02:13.840 before we go, what the fuck is the slate? Like, 3:02:14.120 --> 3:02:14.480 I'm like. 3:02:16.680 --> 3:02:19.200 This nigga, tie, I don't know how you do it. 3:02:19.480 --> 3:02:22.680 But he was like, oh, if I tell him, I'm like, 3:02:22.840 --> 3:02:29.320 I did something that nigga that should be flawless sound. However, 3:02:29.440 --> 3:02:32.320 he done it without a slate on his ships. Tod 3:02:32.480 --> 3:02:35.640 got all that ship, the lighting, the boom. He did 3:02:35.680 --> 3:02:37.800 a bid. When I met him, he was home. He's like, yo, 3:02:37.879 --> 3:02:40.360 I gotta I read the script. I'm like, nigga, I'm 3:02:40.400 --> 3:02:48.280 in man. That motherfucker produced, Rip wrote directed every ad 3:02:48.360 --> 3:02:51.840 started at like that's a different level of talent. 3:02:52.480 --> 3:02:57.040 Recipe man also big up, my man, Jay Rock. They 3:02:57.160 --> 3:02:59.720 just dropped the book called Life in QB. You know 3:02:59.760 --> 3:03:02.440 what I mean, hard copies and solt copies, you know 3:03:02.480 --> 3:03:06.000 what I mean. So but yeah, man tratch Man, Yo, Man, 3:03:06.240 --> 3:03:07.119 love you, my brother. 3:03:07.040 --> 3:03:09.759 Man, Thank you. 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