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Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the Herd.

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Speaker 4: It's a lovely Wednesday in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: It's me Jason MacIntyre coming out of the bullpen to

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Speaker 4: fill in for the injured, struggling Colin Cowherd. He's down

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Speaker 4: for the count with some sort of cough, sneeze flu deal.

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, listen, when the weather church cold in Chicago,

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Speaker 4: it's tough. You gotta get a jacket. I guess Colin's

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Speaker 4: gonna have to buy one now. He'll be back tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: he promises. You got eleven hours sleep, And you know,

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Speaker 4: things line up perfectly because I get to fill in

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Speaker 4: and you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I'm talking about the.

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Speaker 4: New York Football Jets for three straight hours. Joined today

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Speaker 4: by the Great Rachel Nichols. Rachel not as excited about

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Speaker 4: the Jets as I am.

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Speaker 3: But it is james Big Night today in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, the Lakers hosting Victor Webbin Yama.

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Speaker 3: Rachel will be there.

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Speaker 4: I'm efforting tickets as we speak, but we'll hopefully have

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Speaker 4: a great night. But Rachel, we got to start with

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Speaker 4: the NFL. And as a long suffering Jets fan, don't

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Speaker 4: ask me how I got into being a Jets fan.

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Speaker 5: I was born in New.

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Speaker 4: York, family moved to DC, and I decided I don't

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Speaker 4: want to root for these Washington at the time Redskins.

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Speaker 4: Let me go to my hometown routs the New York

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Speaker 4: Jets and folks, it's been a long time since we've

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Speaker 4: had anything to cheer about.

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Speaker 3: And then on NFL trade.

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Speaker 4: Deadline Day, it becomes basically the greatest day in franchise

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Speaker 4: history for anyone under the age of fifty. Obviously, you

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Speaker 4: know the Jets one with Joe Namath the way back

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Speaker 4: in the day. Colin loves to reference those days. I don't,

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Speaker 4: I don't know them. They're foreign to me. So as

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Speaker 4: a Jets fan, the reason I'm celebrating is the trades.

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Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't working with the defensive strategy, as

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Speaker 4: is often the case in the NFL. We'll talk about

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Speaker 4: that later with a couple great guests, but they're going

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Speaker 4: offense and they have moved off Sauce Gardner, the great

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Speaker 4: cornerback who was an All Pro in his first two seasons,

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Speaker 4: and Quinn Williams he shipped to Dallas. Folks, it is

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Speaker 4: a celebratory day if you're a Jets fan. This season's

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Speaker 4: gonna be tough. I saw one of these who won

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Speaker 4: the trades. The twenty twenty five Jets are listed as losers.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna stink this season.

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Speaker 3: We're one and seven.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I could say we and maybe we win a

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Speaker 4: couple games, but it's not about this year.

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Speaker 3: It's for the future, because, folks, we rich.

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Speaker 4: We got a war chest of picks in the next

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Speaker 4: two drafts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we got two.

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Speaker 4: First rounders and a second in twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 4: look at that twenty twenty seven. I mean they're loaded

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Speaker 4: three first round picks. Now, I know you guys are

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Speaker 4: all over draft boards like I am. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: what they're saying. Twenty twenty six draft, it's fine, it's good.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven maybe the greatest NFL draft ever headlined by

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Speaker 4: obviously the great mister Smith at Ohio State, and.

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Speaker 3: Who knows about maybe Archie Manning is a superstar at

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Speaker 4: But to recap the trades, the teardown, oh wait, it's

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't call it a teardown.

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Speaker 5: And the goal is always to win.

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Speaker 6: Look, these coaches and players work too hard every day

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Speaker 4: Well said, I learned out who Darren Muji was basically yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He's been anonymous, hasn't been in the role that long.

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Speaker 4: But I don't want to look too much at the past. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you know, as my son likes to say, trust Dad, trust,

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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions team that you know, not too long ago

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell will kind of rough around the edges. Had

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Speaker 4: And if you remember, in twenty twenty two, the Lions

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Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty three draft, the Detroit Lions had

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Speaker 4: Then they got the kid Campbell, the linebacker. Come on,

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Speaker 4: these are not premium positions, Detroit, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: And then in the second round, this is when they

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Speaker 4: made too great picks. Sam Laporta, the tight end who's

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Speaker 4: They made the jump to light speed the next season

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Speaker 4: twelve and five, last year fifteen and two. You can

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Speaker 4: I can already hear you shouting at your radio or

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Speaker 4: your TV. J Mack, come on, the Jets don't have anything. Actually,

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Speaker 4: the infrastructure is kind of sort of there. We're just

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Speaker 4: not seeing the results yet. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 4: you guys know, Aaron Glenn came from Detroit, right he

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Speaker 4: was on that Dan Campbell's staff. Saw what Dan Campbell

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Speaker 4: instilled as a culture. It takes some time. These things

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Speaker 4: must bake. You've got to give them time. And I

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Speaker 4: hope that the Jets give Aaron Glenn time because frankly,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to go and take

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Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, the kid out of Indiana with the number

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Speaker 3: By the way, I love Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: I learn more about him on his linked in page

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Speaker 3: He already graduated from business school.

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Speaker 4: He's getting a second master's in business at Indiana.

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Speaker 3: And oh, By the way, he's one of the Heisman favorites.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's a genius, a six foot five

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to buy into Fernando Mendoza. But here's the

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Speaker 4: we don't love him.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible that maybe we go with the Giants strategy.

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Speaker 4: We get a defensive player early, and at the end

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Speaker 3: It's looking good for Jackson Dart in New York.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's pivot to one of the teams that

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Speaker 4: traded with the Jets yesterday, and that's the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: led by their carnival barker of an owner Jerry Jones. Guys,

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Speaker 4: I know a lot of Cowboys fans. They are long

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Speaker 4: suffering like the Jets. I mean, they haven't been to

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Speaker 4: an NFC championship, longest drought in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: It's bad, it's bleak. But oh, by the way, some

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Speaker 3: people in Dallas are applauding Jerry's move yesterday to grab

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Speaker 3: Quiddy Williams from my jets.

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Speaker 5: Me in the morning meeting.

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Speaker 4: I'm catching strays all over the place. These guys are like,

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Speaker 4: I like what Dallas did. I like what Jerry did. Really,

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Speaker 4: you guys like Jerry Jones saying, yeah, we got Micah Parsons, who,

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Speaker 4: by the way, two years ago was a like the

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Speaker 4: focal point of an incredible defense that went fourth in

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 4: In Mike McCarthy's great twelve twelve win season two years ago,

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Speaker 4: the Dallas defense, led by Micaeh was fourth in the league.

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Speaker 3: But last year Dak gets hurt.

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Speaker 4: The backup quarterbacks can't do anything, the defense crumbles, suffers injuries,

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Speaker 4: and they're terrible. So let's move off Michaeh. Let's not

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Speaker 4: pay him. Nine games into the season. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: our defense is a tire fire. Let's go get Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 4: What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Here's Jerry Jones on making it up on the fly

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Speaker 7: I don't have time personally to have a bad time.

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Speaker 7: It's not on my schedule, and so I have a

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Speaker 7: natural urgency because of my age, and so tomorrow's the immediate.

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow are a big thing to me, and I also

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Speaker 7: have enough discipline not to get in trouble for years

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Cowboys fans, are you following? I mean

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Speaker 4: you got whiplash a listening to your owners last GM

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Speaker 4: and be following all these moves.

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Speaker 3: And here's the crazy part.

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Speaker 4: If you look in totality at the Micah deal and

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Speaker 4: for Michaeh Persons, who's basically had one of the best

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Speaker 4: That ain't hyperbole.

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Speaker 3: Those are facts. I mean, go look at what Michaeh

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Speaker 3: Parsons has done in his career. He's been unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: I love Quinn Williams. I hyped the hell out of

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Speaker 4: him when he was with my Jets. Well, now that

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Speaker 4: they've traded him, I'm ready to be objective and say, oh,

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Speaker 4: he's had a really good career six seasons, one zero

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Speaker 4: pro he's the elite at his position. Well, he's certainly

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Speaker 4: not top five. He's been great against the run, and

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Speaker 4: that's what Dallas wants him to do. Find Okay, great,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that helps your secondary and ninety

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Speaker 4: two million dollar man, mister Bland, who's still on his

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Speaker 4: rear end after getting cooked by.

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Speaker 3: Marvin Arison Monday night.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, this Dallas defense is a laughing stock

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Speaker 4: and Jerry Jones is just making it up on the fly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, forget about plans. If you're not planning, you know,

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Speaker 4: saying that's not on my timeline. We had to turn

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Speaker 4: it around real quick. I don't I know that everybody

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Speaker 4: was excited about Dallas at times this season, and i'

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Speaker 4: I've taken the bait.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I fell for it.

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Speaker 4: You know, when they were able to put up forty

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Speaker 4: there's something here.

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Speaker 3: But then you drill.

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Speaker 4: Down a little bit, like, oh, defense got destroyed by

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams and they just got dog walked by Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that stat?

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Speaker 7: Guys?

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Speaker 4: The Arizona Cardinals were the only team in the league

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Speaker 8: I saw this as a trade for next year. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: Back here on the Herd. Got some great guests coming up.

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Speaker 3: Joel Klatt top of Next Hour.

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Speaker 4: Cannot wait to talk to him about all the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Hopefully they're hidden gem in the draft, folks. That's why

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Speaker 3: You guys. I like to play poker occasionally.

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Speaker 3: It ends quickly, but.

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Speaker 4: I ultimately do not believe this will lead to much

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Speaker 3: What else you got, You're gonna go get Kyler Marie Now, Shane.

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Speaker 4: Here's Shane Steichen, by the way, on the radio this

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Speaker 10: Obviously, I'm really excited about adding Sauce Gardner to our

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Speaker 3: Now again you could argue sinking ship jet steak. He

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Speaker 8: Jason, this isn't a jet story, so I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 8: stop a two game losing streak. But here's the spice.

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Speaker 8: After the game, JJ posted this on his Instagram with

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Speaker 8: the caption quote kneecaps are intact, which seems to be

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Speaker 8: a shot at Dan Campbell's famous biting the kneecaps quote, right,

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Speaker 8: remember that? Yeah, I guess we should also note that

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Speaker 8: JJ blew out his knee and his rookie years, so

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Speaker 8: you know, they could maybe make the case it was

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Speaker 8: about that. But I gotta personally, I think this is

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Speaker 8: a shot at Campbell. What do you expect to see

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Speaker 8: from McCarthy in the Viking Sire?

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Speaker 3: I kind of like that. Rachel's weird. He's had three.

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Speaker 4: Starts and we're supposed to like render a verdict if

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Speaker 4: he can't play or he can't play, we need to

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Speaker 4: let it.

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Speaker 3: Bake just a little, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got a tough one this weekend against

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Speaker 4: the Ravens. They're at home, and I'm seeing Baltimore's favor

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Speaker 4: by four in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Ravens defense isn't great. Do you think McCarthy is the

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Speaker 3: guy there or do we just we don't know yet.

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Speaker 8: I think he could be could be great.

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Speaker 3: I mean Harball loves him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think they're gonna be fine with JJ McCaw.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to duplicate Donald's numbers

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Speaker 3: from last year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, especially Donald's having success crushing it in Seattle, you

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Speaker 8: have to live up to all right, let's talk a

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Speaker 8: little Warriors Jimmy Butler left yesterday's win against the Suns

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Speaker 8: with lower back soreness. Now, Butler came into that game questionable.

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Speaker 8: He ended up playing, but then he tweaked his back

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Speaker 8: during the game didn't return after halftime. Jimmy is currently

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Speaker 8: considered questionable again for the Warriors game tonight against Sacramento. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: Jason Draymond Green is unlikely to pay on the second

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Speaker 8: night of a back to back. Steph Curry has already

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Speaker 8: been ruled out with illness, maybe the same thing Colin has.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, Maybe they've been hanging out together.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I can say. Look, it's obviously early, but the Warriors

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Speaker 8: sit in sixth right now in the West. Do you

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Speaker 8: have concerns? I mean, this is a much older roster

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Speaker 8: and we're already seeing, oh I have to sit out

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Speaker 8: after our back to back or some injuries that kind

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Speaker 8: of thing. I mean, a back injury, that's an old

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Speaker 8: man injury obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I Where do you stand on this whole sitting

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Speaker 4: out on back to backs? Because they had Austin Reeves

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Speaker 4: and Luca do it with the Lakers. They're not at

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Speaker 4: the same age as Steph Curry and Dremondrie.

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Speaker 3: I have no problem with this. And I know, like

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, oh, you got to play.

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's out here talking about how you got to

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Speaker 3: play eighty two games, Like that's dumb.

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Speaker 4: I want to see Steph Curry playing meaningful games. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: not November fifth against the Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 3: On a back to back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know they purposely sometimes they're like, oh,

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Speaker 8: it's a back to back and it's against the Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 8: We're going to dray Ron take a seat. I'm okay

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Speaker 8: with it because you want a guy as close to

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Speaker 8: one hundred percent as you can get every time he's

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Speaker 8: out on the floor. And if you feel like back

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Speaker 8: to backs put him into some sort of risk because

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Speaker 8: of his age, because of you know, injuries, because of anything,

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Speaker 8: don't do it. It's not worth it.

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Speaker 5: It's not worth.

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Speaker 8: Missing the guy missing the next month or two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I only watch a little Warriors.

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Speaker 4: I'm more interested in, like, you know, Lakers, Rockets, a

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Speaker 4: couple of other teams, But what have you seen every

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Speaker 4: time I look at the box Score. They're playing like

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Speaker 4: twelve guys. They're playing so many, they're lessening the minutes.

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Speaker 4: For Curry, it feels like good strategy, damn from.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I absolutely think so. Look, he knows they're an

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Speaker 8: older team. Yeah, they want to make a long playoff run.

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Speaker 3: Steph.

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Speaker 8: Curry's window is closing. This is sort of the last

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Speaker 8: ride with Butler, with these other guys, and he wants

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Speaker 8: to make it all count. And he's getting more production

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Speaker 8: from a lot of these guys than he did last season.

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Speaker 8: And look, Jimmy Butler, you might be sitting out tonight

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Speaker 8: with a back injury, but he's there's been thirty one

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Speaker 8: regular season games since he got there. He's played in

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Speaker 8: thirty of them, So we maybe are talking about old

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Speaker 8: man injuries.

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Speaker 3: But I listened to a record good with Butler, Curry, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: with the whole group.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, let's move over to Cooper flag Boy

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Speaker 8: with the MAVs. You know, Cooper is still finding his

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Speaker 8: way in the league. The Mavericks are off to a

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Speaker 8: rough start. Kevin Durant, though, after a recent game, said

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Speaker 8: don't worry. The future is still bright for the rookie.

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Speaker 8: Take a listen.

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Speaker 11: I just think it's always good for young players to

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Speaker 11: just be thrown into the fire.

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Speaker 7: Just go clear.

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Speaker 11: Oh, Jake, here is an incredible coach that no the

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Speaker 11: game and so now as a player and as a coach,

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Speaker 11: so you know, no matter what position here, I think

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Speaker 11: he's just a basketball player is only going to get better.

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Speaker 8: Kadi went on to say that he really feels for

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Speaker 8: Cooper Jason because Cooper's playing at guard after spending his

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Speaker 8: whole time prior to that at forward. Remember k D

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Speaker 8: came into the league in college. He played the four

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Speaker 8: of the five, and then he came into the NBA

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Speaker 8: into two, so he knows that that's that's a real adjustment.

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Speaker 8: You've been hiring Cooper Flag. What do you think of

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Speaker 8: all this?

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Speaker 4: It's the narrative, and I try not to pay too

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Speaker 4: much attention to what else is going on in the media.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's impossible with social media.

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Speaker 3: The narrative is Cooper Flag, ain't it? Oh this Jason?

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Speaker 3: You said, this guy's gonna be all NBA. He's nothing.

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Speaker 3: We don't want. How old is he? Rachel eighteen? He's

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Speaker 3: eighteen years old? What are we doing?

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Speaker 4: He's got the worst plus minus since I think since

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Speaker 4: Lebron as a rookie when he was eighteen or maybe

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Speaker 4: he was nineteen.

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Speaker 8: How did that work out?

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fine. I think the bigger story is

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Speaker 3: what's going on with Anthony Davis. I mean, like Cooper

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Speaker 3: Flag is gonna be okay?

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Speaker 4: Ad Nico Harrison, where's my guy, super Max Christy?

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Speaker 3: What's he doing?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Rachel, if I'm Cooper Flag, I'm begging Kyrie

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Speaker 4: to come back. But it sounds like I think you

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Speaker 4: said he's like.

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Speaker 3: This hope that.

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Speaker 4: Oh Kyrie's killing in practicing. Yeah, it's not like he's

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Speaker 4: coming back.

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Speaker 3: In a month or two or three.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 8: No, no, end of the season, maybe not at all

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Speaker 8: this season. And remember Nico, when he made the trade,

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Speaker 8: the Luca trade, he put the Mavericks on a much

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Speaker 8: tighter timeline, right, So trading for a player in Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 8: who is six years older than Luca. He said he

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Speaker 8: thinks the championship window was in the next three years

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Speaker 8: after the Luca trade. That's part of this pressure on

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Speaker 8: Cooper Flag, right, because if you feel like these seasons

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Speaker 8: are dwindling down when you have promised to deliver.

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Speaker 3: A title, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 8: You gotta stick Cooper at guard because he is the

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Speaker 8: best playmaker that you have out there right now. With

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Speaker 8: everyone else injured, it's not necessarily what's best for Cooper.

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Speaker 4: Those are rough stats you see on the screen, thirty

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Speaker 4: eight percent shooting, thirty percent for three. But he's an

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Speaker 4: eighteen year old rookie and their best well I guess

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Speaker 4: their best players A d or Kyrie, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But bottom line is two of their best three players

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Speaker 3: are out. Yeah, like you can't expect much from him.

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Speaker 4: I think Cooper Flag is going to be fine. I

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Speaker 4: wonder if Nico Harrison is going to be fine. But

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Speaker 4: we will see the other time for another day, all right, read.

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Speaker 3: So with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd line.

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Speaker 3: News all right.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, we're gonna go to Vegas. Details on

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Speaker 4: did any of these NFL moves move the needle on

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl contenders?

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 4: Here we go our number two here on the Herd.

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Speaker 4: Gorgeous Wednesday, tons of news college football, NFL obviously, a

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Speaker 4: little NBA action. It's me Jason McIntyre in for an

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Speaker 4: under the weather coward. He did text me within the

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Speaker 4: last hour, so there is proof of life that he's alive.

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Speaker 3: He said, he's expected that, Maniana. If not, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm just have to carry the show with the help

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Speaker 3: of the great Rachel Nichols. And it's official. Rachel and

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Speaker 3: I will be at the Lakers game together, not together tonight,

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Speaker 3: will be there.

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Speaker 4: Rachel obviously has better connections than I do.

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Speaker 3: Maybe otter seats.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna live.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you better see you were at the paper Clips

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Speaker 4: against Shake Gildess, Alexander and Okay see last night doubt and.

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Speaker 7: That was that. Man.

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Speaker 8: The Oklahoma City Thunder have not missed a step despite

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Speaker 8: the fact they are missing their second best player. They're

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Speaker 8: undefeated and they don't even have Jada right now. So

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Speaker 8: it looks like, you know, a lot of people after

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Speaker 8: it took seven games to win the finals were like,

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Speaker 8: I don't know, it's right opening again next year. I

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Speaker 8: don't know, man, They're young players, they have experienced now

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Speaker 8: and they Shay said at the beginning of season, we're

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Speaker 8: only going to be better at this season.

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Speaker 3: And he's right, so I was the free throw merchant.

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Speaker 3: What did he do last year? I'm just kidding, O

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Speaker 3: case answer man.

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Speaker 4: They don't love me, but yes, you guys are dominant, undefeated.

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Speaker 4: I will apologize, you know when it's due time, all right,

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Speaker 4: coming up in five minutes.

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Speaker 3: I guess Joe claud will be here. Very excited.

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Speaker 4: Fun fact, I've never sat and just had a one

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Speaker 4: on one with Klatt for a while because you know,

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Speaker 4: it's what coward does.

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Speaker 3: And I'm very.

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Speaker 4: Excited to talk to him a lot of tough, hard

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Speaker 4: hitting questions about my jets, but real quick, briefly, I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about what did not happen at the

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Speaker 4: trade deadline yesterday. And I think Colin might have started this, like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, six weeks ago, should the Eagles trade

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Speaker 4: aj Brown? And you know I was here snickering, like, bro,

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Speaker 4: what are you talking about? And then things were kind

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Speaker 4: of wobbly and I started to think, well, maybe there's

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Speaker 4: a world where they trade. Anyways, the Eagles do not

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Speaker 4: trade him, which was smart. Obviously he's a stud. He's

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Speaker 4: a top ten receiver in the league. You need him

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Speaker 4: to beat man coverage. We know Jalen Hurts has kind

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Speaker 4: of struggled against the zone with only one option.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good move. But if you

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Speaker 3: look around the league, interestingly, the best teams nothing. You guys,

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Speaker 3: see what the Buffalo Bills did yesterday? Nothing.

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Speaker 4: They didn't listen to the outside noise, unlike Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 4: who basically is listening to TikTok.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the elected officials in this country, what's

659
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Speaker 3: going on online.

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Speaker 4: I've got to react to it like that's what Jerry

661
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Speaker 4: Jones is doing. The smart people, Howie Roseman, Buffalo Bills.

662
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Speaker 4: By the way, did the Lions do much yesterday? They're

663
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Speaker 4: one of the favorites. Did the Green Bay Packers after

664
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Speaker 4: losing Tchucker crafter Chucker craft a tight end?

665
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Speaker 3: How about the Kansas City Chiefs? Did they do anything? Nope?

666
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Speaker 4: Listen closely to what Howie Roseman said about the Eagles

667
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Speaker 4: standing pat.

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Speaker 12: When you're trying to be a great team, it's hard

669
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Speaker 12: to trade great players. And Agent Brown's a great player.

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Speaker 12: He wears the CEA for a reason. He's an important

671
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Speaker 12: part of this team, of this organization. He cares about winning,

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Speaker 12: he cares about his teammates, and you know, I think

673
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Speaker 12: that when you're a team like ours that is looking

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Speaker 12: forward to an opportunity to compete for a championship, you

675
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 12: just don't get rid of the guys like that. And

676
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 12: so feel very lucky to have him on our team

677
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Speaker 12: and excited about the second half of the season.

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Speaker 4: With him, very well said, I love it. Howie Roseven

679
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: just keeps winning. And I'll just wrap up with a

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Speaker 4: fun stat from the staff this morning. You know who's

681
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: made ten trades in the last eight and a half months.

682
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: The Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jets are making moves. Not a

683
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: great sign. So smart teams do nothing right. And the

684
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 4: bad desperate teams, the Colts, the Cowboys, they're reaching and

685
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: grasping at straws. All right, let's bring on Joel Klatt,

686
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Speaker 4: the voice of college football, the former legendary quarterback at Colorado.

687
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Speaker 5: Oh legendary.

688
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Speaker 3: I want to go over here.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, they put a little tower up here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, some lapao is so low.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Rachel, you know.

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Speaker 8: Some of us are only five to three and need him.

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Speaker 5: You need a little That's exactly right. What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 3: Are you so good to have you here? Former college

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Speaker 3: baseball star.

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Speaker 13: We never play in college. You played in minor league

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Speaker 13: right after high school. Yeah, let me go that.

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Speaker 4: Well, Hey, you know, it's it's tough out there. It

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Speaker 4: is it is Joel's calling Indiana Penn State. I tried

701
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Speaker 4: to talk Chris Philika, yeah, into maybe taking the points

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Speaker 4: with the Niitney Lyons, any chance of that.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I'm not going to get into the points

704
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Speaker 13: on the game that I'm calling. I will say, like,

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Speaker 13: Indiana is as good of a team as there is

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Speaker 13: in the country.

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Speaker 5: They're They're complete.

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Speaker 13: What I what I love is talking with opposing coaches

709
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Speaker 13: and you get an idea of the weaknesses for the

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Speaker 13: other teams, even more so than just watching the film yourself.

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Speaker 13: And what's what's fascinating to me over the last couple

712
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Speaker 13: of years is that when I talk with anybody that

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Speaker 13: has either played Indiana or is about to play Indiana,

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Speaker 13: they all say the same thing, which is, this is

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Speaker 13: the best coach team that we have played. And it's

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Speaker 13: one of the reasons why I think Indiana was so

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Speaker 13: aggressive locking up Kurt Signetti as the job opening started

718
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Speaker 13: to fly around the country. They are incredibly well coached,

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Speaker 13: They've got a Heisman caliber quarterback. They run the football

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Speaker 13: as well as anybody in the country. In fact, I

721
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Speaker 13: think they're second in the power for running the ball

722
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Speaker 13: five times they've run it for over three hundred yards,

723
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Speaker 13: and their defense is top ten. So there's not a

724
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Speaker 13: lot of holes with this Indiana team. I'm excited to

725
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Speaker 13: cover them again as Penn State just tries to kind

726
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Speaker 13: of keep themselves afloat first game there since they fired

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Speaker 13: James Franklin.

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Speaker 5: So I'll be an interesting environment.

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Speaker 3: Should be half full stadium, maybe, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope is a little more than that. Come on,

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Speaker 5: Penn State, faithful.

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Speaker 4: So I want to ask you, you know, I love

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Speaker 4: talking to the announcers here at Fox. Did you guys

734
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Speaker 4: meet with the coaches and players?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And so you've met with Mendoza, I assume multiple times.

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Speaker 4: So as a Jets fan, we now have a war

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Speaker 4: chest of draft picks.

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Speaker 3: And I was like.

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Speaker 4: Lukewarm on Mendoza and I'd read this Wall Street Journal

741
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Speaker 4: article about his LinkedIn page. He's graduating from the HW

742
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Speaker 4: School of Business at cal I mean, this guy's had

743
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Speaker 4: internships at yeah, big time, like real jobs. He's a

744
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Speaker 4: super intelligent and I'm talking myself into Mendos.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's he like when you meet him.

746
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Speaker 3: We know what he's like on the field.

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Speaker 13: I mean this in the most positive sense, Okay, but

748
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Speaker 13: the first time I sat down with him, I was like,

749
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Speaker 13: is this like Kirk? Is this Kirk Cousins just coming back?

750
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Speaker 13: He is very similar to Kirk Cousins, very similar, and

751
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 13: the way they approach very smart. I will say, like

752
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 13: he can he can be a little robotic, and then

753
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 13: as the conversation went on, it got more fluid and

754
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 13: better and better. But he's process oriented. He is an

755
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 13: incredible player. He's very accurate with the football, he's smart,

756
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Speaker 13: and he's developed into what I think is going to

757
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Speaker 13: be easily a top ten pick.

758
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Speaker 5: And it's to me, it comes down to style.

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Speaker 13: So if you're an organization or a team in the

760
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Speaker 13: National Football League that wants to major in short passing

761
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Speaker 13: efficiency RPO style, run pass option style offense, and there

762
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Speaker 13: are those out there, I think Mike McDaniel's and Mike

763
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Speaker 13: McDaniels at the Dolphins, there's others you know is going

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Speaker 13: to be a great option for you, whereas like Ty

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Speaker 13: Simpson from Alabama is a little bit more pushed the

766
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Speaker 13: ball down the field a little bit better in the

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Speaker 13: intermediate zones. Those two are going to be widely considered

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Speaker 13: maybe one and two. I think Lenora Sellers will get

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Speaker 13: some action as one of the better quarterbacks as well,

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Speaker 13: just because of skill set and traits. But to me,

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Speaker 13: if I was up there and selecting in the top five,

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Speaker 13: the question would be Ty Simpson or Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 5: I think that they're that good.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you, as a former quarterback, are

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Speaker 4: you of the belief that let's just use the jets. Hey,

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Speaker 4: we see what Mendoza does really well, we want to

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Speaker 4: draft him and then cater to his skill set one

778
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Speaker 4: hundred percent? Okay, so I would agree with one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: You've got to have the right fit or else it

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Speaker 4: doesn't work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is obviously the great example. Hey, this guy

783
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Speaker 4: can run, he can't do much else. We're just going

784
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Speaker 4: to cater to his skills, and then he developed the

785
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: other ones, became a great passer. So when you see

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Speaker 4: Mendoza six or five, big strapping guy. But you said

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Speaker 4: the word process, I hear process. I think brock perty

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Speaker 4: now Purtty's obviously.

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Speaker 5: Smaller, he would do really well in one of those offenses.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Kyle Shanahan offense.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I mean everyone does well, and Kyle Shanahan offenses.

792
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Speaker 13: But because because he's so smart and accurate with the

793
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Speaker 13: football and on time with the football, anybody like a

794
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 13: Sean Payton. He I mean, obviously Sean's not drafting the quarterback,

795
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Speaker 13: but I'm just trying to give you an example of

796
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Speaker 13: these styles of offenses that that he would flourish in.

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Speaker 13: He would do very well in those. When you watch

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Speaker 13: him play. One of the things that he does that's

799
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Speaker 13: very subtle is that he's what I would call like

800
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 13: on platform very quickly, very quickly. So when he gets

801
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 13: that ball and he takes out one punch step and

802
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 13: then he's ready, and then he's got a very quick release,

803
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 13: and he's accurate with the ball and he knows what

804
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 13: he's looking at. So so from my standpoint, that's what's

805
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 13: going to pay dividends for him in particular early in

806
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 13: his career as an NFL quarterback, is the fact that

807
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 13: he can be on time and on target. It doesn't

808
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 13: take him a long time to throw, it doesn't take

809
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 13: him a long time to process information. Everything happens fast,

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Speaker 13: and when you're moving from the college level to the

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Speaker 13: NFL level, that I mean that that's the single trait

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Speaker 13: that can help you succeed.

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Speaker 3: The earliest I did hear his brothers at Indiana, I

814
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 13: Well year is he he's a younger guy. So he

817
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 13: gets in like Fernando goes out there, he starts blowing

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00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 13: people out, and then his brother gets in the ballgame

819
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Speaker 13: and and he's over running around on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: This peria it's not un locked.

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Speaker 4: The Windosa comes out before we get to Simpson, Indiana,

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Speaker 4: Penn State. What are you hearing on the Penn State job?

823
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Speaker 4: Because I'm not hearing good things at this point. Well,

824
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: it's not that you're not hearing good things.

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Speaker 13: It's just that there it's a tough process right now

826
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 13: for everybody, whether it's Florida or LSU. And the reason

827
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 13: is is because the candidates that you would like have

828
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Speaker 13: either got locked up already, like Kurt Signetti or Matt

829
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 13: Rule at Nebraska got an extension. Dan Landing has come

830
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 13: out and said unequivocally I'm not leaving Oregon. Well, these

831
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 13: are some of the main targets, maybe not matt rule,

832
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 13: but at least there was a tie to Penn State,

833
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 13: so it leaves the pool of candidates is starting to

834
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 13: minimize even before you get into a real full search

835
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 13: towards the end of the year. And yet the timing

836
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 13: of the calendar in college football is so broken that

837
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 13: you've got to be ready to go in December. You've

838
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 13: got to sign a high school class in the first

839
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 13: week of December and then be ready for the transfer portal,

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Speaker 13: which is now in the month of January. So if

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00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 13: you're not ready to go by then, you know, like

842
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 13: what happens? Where do you go? If you're hiring a coach. So,

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Speaker 13: for example, let's just say one of these jobs, whether

844
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 13: it's Penn State or LSU, and they decide, you know what,

845
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Speaker 13: Lane Kiffin is our guy. Lane has not gotten an extension,

846
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 13: or at least hasn't signed when at Old Miss. Yet

847
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 13: he has not come out and said I'm not leaving

848
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 13: Old Miss. So now Florida is going to target him.

849
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 13: In fact, I know that they've already targeted him. And

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Speaker 13: given Florida is talking about an offer, if it hasn't

851
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 13: already hit his desk, it is to make him the

852
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 13: second highest paid coach in college football that's going to

853
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 13: be matched by LSU. I'm almost certain about that. If

854
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 13: Penn State wanted to get in there, Well, here's the problem.

855
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 13: If Ole Miss goes to the playoff and they played

856
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 13: the second in the third round, Lane's still coaching at

857
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 13: ole Miss during the transfer portal window being opened, so

858
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 13: he doesn't even have an ability to build a roster.

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00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 13: That's what's broken about college football from a calendar perspective.

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00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 13: That's why I would look at guys like an Alex

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00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 13: Golish at South Florida who's done a heck of a

862
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 13: job at South Florida.

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00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 5: That could be a name that's popped up.

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Speaker 13: I think Brian Hartline is a name the assistant coach

865
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 13: at Ohio State that's going to pop up. These guys

866
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 13: that could potentially move before the transfer portal window and

867
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 13: not be tied to a team that could be still

868
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 13: playing in the middle of January.

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Speaker 3: And anything on James Franklin before we get to the

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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: college football rankings.

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Speaker 13: I've heard that he's pretty close to Virginia Tech. He

872
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 13: will definitely coach again and he will have success. The

873
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 13: guy was not a bad football coach. I mean he

874
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 13: came up short in the most difficult games out there,

875
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 13: you know, namely like Michigan when they're in the top

876
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 13: five or Ohio State when they're in the top five.

877
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 13: So he's going to go someplace and he's going to

878
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 13: make them a better program. James is a heck of

879
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 13: a football coach, and I hope he gets back in

880
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 13: and I know that he will.

881
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: I spent two years of Virginia Tech, did Jim Drucken, Miller.

882
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 5: Erraitors, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

883
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: I had a couple classes with those guys, I think Franklin.

884
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 13: I can just see j Max just jumping on up

885
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 13: and down to enter Sandman at at Lane Stadium, some.

886
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 4: Goofa football players in the back of the class, and

887
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: I would kind of matriculate toward them because I was

888
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 4: at the school paper.

889
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: Nobody cares about that anyways. Let's get to the college

890
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: football playoff rankings. Joe, I didn't see anything to get

891
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: you very upset about it.

892
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

893
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 13: No, I thought it was a pretty good ranking, to

894
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 13: be honest with you, as solid of a first committee

895
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 13: ranking as I've seen in the playoff era, going back

896
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 13: to the four team playoff. Here's one of the things

897
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 13: that I think helps the committee out is the expanded

898
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 13: twelve team playoff, because we have an understanding now just

899
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 13: intuitively that okay, this is going to play out BYU

900
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 13: and Texas Tech are going to play this weekend, Iowa

901
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 13: and Oregon are going to play this weekend. You know,

902
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 13: A and M has to travel and they're going to

903
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 13: be on the road at Missouri. A couple of things

904
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 13: that stood out to me though, just takeaways, major takeaways

905
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 13: from the top twenty five. Number one is that this

906
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 13: committee values the Big ten much more so than the

907
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 13: AP does. Like, for instance, the team with the biggest

908
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 13: discrepancy between the two poles is actually Iowa. Iowa is ranked,

909
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 13: if you will, just outside of the top twenty five

910
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 13: by the AP at twenty six.

911
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: Well, there are plus six at twenty for the committee,

912
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: and I think rightly.

913
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 13: So the AP has devalued the middle of the Big

914
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 13: ten all year long. I'm not sure why, but you've

915
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 13: also have Michigan sitting there, USC sitting there, Washington sitting there.

916
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 13: So now there's a path for a Big ten team

917
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 13: to be the fourth team. Like let's just say one

918
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 13: of those teams can win out and be ten and two.

919
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 13: Then there's definitely a path. Another thing that stood out

920
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 13: to me is Texas at eleven. I thought that the

921
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 13: committee was telling us, if Texas goes nine to three,

922
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 13: we're probably going to put them in. They're sitting on

923
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 13: two losses now, but think about it. Now, think about it.

924
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 13: They already have them above OU. Obviously they beat Ou.

925
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 13: They have them above Utah. Utah has nothing on their

926
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 13: schedule that would propel them above Texas. And there is

927
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 13: no way the ACC is going to get valued over

928
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 13: Texas because we already see that. You know, the highest

929
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 13: AC team is ranked fourteen with Virginia. So here's Texas

930
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 13: and down the stretch they've got to travel to Athens

931
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 13: and play Georgia and then they're gonna host Texas A

932
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 13: and M the number three team in the country and

933
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 13: the number five team in the country. Well, if you

934
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 13: value wins, one of those wins is going to keep

935
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 13: them or even elevate them all the way inside of

936
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 13: the top ten, which means I think that they could

937
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 13: lose one of those games and still be included.

938
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 5: The losing both No. No.

939
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 13: Eight and four, they're out because oh you could win out,

940
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 13: then you could have one of those ten and two

941
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 13: Big ten teams.

942
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: There's there's a host of other things.

943
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 13: They're not winning at Georgia. Come on, they might Georgia

944
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 13: is do you remember Rick Riley? Even though I'm not

945
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 13: a huge fan of Rick, which is fine. I can't

946
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 13: believe I just said that would yeah, okay. He wrote

947
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 13: an article way back in the day about Tiger Woods

948
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 13: and Phil Mickelson. Now, like Tiger was just you know,

949
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 13: watching him play golf was just like rigid and focused,

950
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 13: and then watching Phil Mickelson play golf was like watching

951
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 13: a drunk chase of balloon next to next to a cliff.

952
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: He had this line.

953
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 13: I don't know why it stuck with It's just like

954
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 13: that was his line his life, and and you know,

955
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 13: like for Georgia, it kind of reminds me of that

956
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 13: because it's like, why are you behind in all of

957
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 13: these games? You know, every SEC game, it's like they're

958
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 13: they're down. They they have to create some some great play.

959
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 13: They're at the whim of a review like they were

960
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 13: on that third down catch no catch against Florida. You know,

961
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 13: like Florida's sitting there. If they get the fourth and one,

962
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 13: you know, they could sult the game away. And and

963
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 13: so I don't think that it's just a sure fire.

964
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 13: Oh absolutely, George is gonna beat that Texas team because

965
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 13: Texas is actually playing their best.

966
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 5: Football right now.

967
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting they were handling Vanderbilt handling and then

968
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 3: nearly choked it away. You're right, they were spotty early

969
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: during the season. So let me pivot to ask about Arts.

970
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he was pretty rotten early in dreadful. Okay, dreadful,

971
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: I like your word better than mine.

972
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 13: We we tiptoe around because of his last name, but

973
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 13: even even those guys would probably appreciate honesty. Arch was

974
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 13: dreadful early in the year, and he's gotten better in

975
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 13: the last.

976
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: Couple of weeks.

977
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: He was good, But can he go to Georgia and

978
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: perform like he did against Vandy and then that an

979
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 4: m game that's not a layup even though they're at home.

980
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: Where are you on, Arch? Have you seen a Arch?

981
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: Arch is.

982
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 13: A decent to average college football quarterback early in his career,

983
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 13: and he's going to need at least twenty more starts

984
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 13: to be even remotely ready for the national.

985
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: Football guy in year three. We can still say it's

986
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: early in his career.

987
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: Well as far as number of starts. He's early in

988
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 5: his career.

989
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 13: You know, again, this position, the position of quarterback, there

990
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 13: is no way you can replicate it. So I don't

991
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 13: care if it's your third year in college or if

992
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 13: it's your first year in college. The only thing that

993
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 13: matters is number of games started. Okay, Now, can you

994
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 13: be a little more comfortable, Sure, I guess, but you

995
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 13: can't replicate the position anywhere other than on the field

996
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 13: live in games. And so as he's starting to develop,

997
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 13: as he's starting to start more games, you're starting to

998
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 13: see him get a little bit better. Now, we all

999
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 13: thought he was going to come out and be Gangbusters

1000
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 13: and be Trevor Lawrence right away or Bear Bachmeyer, the

1001
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 13: quarterback at BYU is eight to er right now as

1002
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 13: a true freshman.

1003
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: And it didn't happen. It didn't happen.

1004
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 13: But here's what this position is all about is repsent experience.

1005
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 13: If you take a look at since the turn of

1006
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 13: the century, the quarterbacks that have actually won Super Bowls.

1007
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 13: So you take a look at the list of guys

1008
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 13: that have actually won Super Bowls. And I think we've

1009
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 13: talked about this on the show, and I'm sure you've

1010
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 13: you've been riveted over in the corner as I'm saying this.

1011
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: To Colin, but.

1012
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 13: The average college career of all the guys that have

1013
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 13: won Super Bowls is around thirty to thirty four starts.

1014
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 13: In college football, you have to have a deep level

1015
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 13: of experience before you get to the NFL. So here's

1016
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 13: my everyone fans out there, just let Arch play a

1017
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 13: couple of years. Okay, again, he is twenty starts away

1018
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 13: from being remotely close to an NFL level.

1019
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: Okay, So to that point, a quick aside to my

1020
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 4: guy Ty Simpson at Alabama.

1021
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: I love what I've seen from you. Just said him and.

1022
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: Mendoza top ten picks. He's got like eight start nights.

1023
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: I would choose Mendoza because of that very specific thing.

1024
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that that's.

1025
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 13: Now he's likely going to come out. He's going to

1026
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 13: be raided up there. But again, the experience factor would

1027
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 13: tend to if you're just looking at history, favor a

1028
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 13: guy like Mendoza because he started more games since.

1029
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: And sat behind a bunch of guys who were like Anyways.

1030
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 4: Cowherd's now texting me he wants a question about USCTARC.

1031
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 13: Does I was going to say we were about to

1032
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 13: get through one of these without us.

1033
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: Well, your guy Lincoln Riley after the win over Nebraska

1034
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: was complaining, Hey, we ended our game after midnight.

1035
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: We have to fly back in the middle of the night.

1036
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 13: I can't stand when coaches would complain about the schedule. Listen, listen, listen, coaches,

1037
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 13: all of you and all of you that do this.

1038
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 13: Do you like the money or not, because that's what

1039
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 13: it is. You know, you all complain about not having

1040
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 13: enough money to pay your players now and the revenue

1041
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 13: share and all that, like we're paying one hundred and

1042
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 13: sixty seven million dollars and buy out money in college football.

1043
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 13: That revenue needs to come somewhere. Guess where it comes

1044
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 13: from television? You know, like, deal with it. I don't

1045
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 13: know what to tell you, Like I I really I

1046
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 13: didn't enjoy. I'm sure that he was. And Lincoln, generally,

1047
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 13: I would say, is better about that than others. So

1048
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 13: if he was joking, you know, that's good. He finished

1049
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 13: after midnight plenty of times in the PAC twelve when

1050
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 13: they were in PAC.

1051
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 5: Twelve after dark. Yeah, listen.

1052
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 13: His travel and game and game kick times more difficult

1053
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 13: in college than it is in the NFL. Yeah, you know,

1054
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 13: but we also don't split games up, so you're not

1055
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 13: on regional television in college football, you're on national television

1056
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 13: in college football. I thought that that win for USC

1057
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 13: was really important for them winning on the road. There's

1058
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 13: this old adage I've always thought, you you lose big

1059
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 13: before you lose small, you lose small before you win small,

1060
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 13: and you win small before you win big. And they're

1061
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 13: they're turning that corner from losing small those one possession

1062
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 13: games a year ago to now winning some of those games,

1063
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 13: and the way that they did it, leaning into their

1064
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 13: run game, not having a great performance from their quarterback

1065
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 13: Jane Myava.

1066
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 5: That's important for them.

1067
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1068
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 13: If they just go out there Miava throws for four

1069
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 13: hundred and they win by a score, it's like, Okay,

1070
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 13: did we really learn anything or grow as us.

1071
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 6: No.

1072
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 13: But if you go out there and you win with

1073
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 13: defense after the injury obviously to Dylan Royolo, which is

1074
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 13: which is a bummer for Nebraska, but they leaned into

1075
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 13: the run game. They got it dumb Mayava was not

1076
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 13: good in that game and they still win. Now they're

1077
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 13: set up as a one lost Big Ten team in

1078
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 13: conference obviously after losing to Notre Dame and Illinois, but

1079
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 13: one loss in conference and.

1080
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 5: They've got a chance to be ten and two.

1081
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: That's my next question. So I'm looking at the schedule.

1082
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: Northwestern and that's a win this week versus Iowa. That'll

1083
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: be tough, but I think they very tough. And then

1084
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 4: the Oregon game is the Oregon game, essentially the season

1085
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 4: for Lincoln Ryley.

1086
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: I will not go to the playoffs.

1087
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 13: I I mean yes, the way that the schedule lines up,

1088
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 13: but they still have to handle their business and a

1089
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 13: team like Iowa is still their kryptonite that Iowa does

1090
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 13: not care at all. They will run it fifty two times,

1091
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 13: they can't throw the football, and they're going to play

1092
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 13: great defense. So Mayava likely struggles again against Iowa, even

1093
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 13: if that game is at home, and they're going to

1094
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 13: have to win in a gritty, low scoring fashion. So

1095
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 13: of all the games, I think Oregon is the biggest

1096
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 13: threat because it's Oregon and it's on the road. But

1097
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 13: the sneaky game, the sneaky, tough one for USC is

1098
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 13: going to be that Iowa gain.

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00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, remember the Illinois game was kind of fluky at

1100
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: the end. They could have won that easily and then

1101
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. I believe it was a one score game

1102
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: with like seven minutes left.

1103
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 13: They definitely had their chances. They blew it on special teams,

1104
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 13: they failed in short yardage, didn't lean into the run game,

1105
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 13: and they couldn't stop the run. And Iowa again will

1106
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 13: run it fifty two times. They will not care, and

1107
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 13: they will shrink the game down. Miava might only get

1108
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 13: the ball seven times.

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Speaker 5: In that game.

1110
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not ideal. I know the buyouts are everywhere. Is

1111
00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley?

1112
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he's safe.

1113
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's nice.

1114
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: He's safe.

1115
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 13: I do think that this team, I think I think

1116
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 13: they finish at least nine and three. That not only

1117
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 13: retains Riley obviously, but it also retains their class. This

1118
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 13: is the number one recruiting class in all of college football.

1119
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 13: The trajectory for USC is actually very positive. Everyone gets

1120
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 13: so upset at at Colin and I because they're USC,

1121
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 13: and I get it because Colin always always brings it up.

1122
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 13: But that program is on the correct trajectory and like

1123
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 13: I said, go through that process, lose big, loose, small

1124
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 13: win small, win big, and they're on that that trend.

1125
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Speaker 3: Last one we got to talk about Lane Kiffin. I

1126
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: don't know.

1127
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 4: Are you close to him, because he loves to talk

1128
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: to the media. He's getting combative. I know you said earlier,

1129
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 4: hasn't ruled out anything. He's not going to the NFL, right,

1130
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 4: is Miami Dolphins?

1131
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: Nonsense? I know.

1132
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 13: No, I see Lane at LSU, really I do.

1133
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 5: That's a top three job in the sport.

1134
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: I disagree to Yeah.

1135
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: The last time you said that here, I was biting

1136
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 4: my tongue, like why it's just not anymore historically? Yes,

1137
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: and I know in the past everybody's won, But don't

1138
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 4: you feel the playing field is leveled to the point

1139
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: that LSU's not that much better of a job than

1140
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 4: what miss I mean, Lane Kiffin is calling the shots

1141
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: right now for.

1142
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: Late hold On.

1143
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: Is a better job than.

1144
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: So the money is not that different Joel. Okay, he

1145
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: runs the show. He's got total he could say whatever

1146
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: he wants at LSU. Who's calling the shots there? By

1147
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: the way, No he's not. I haven't looked at my phone.

1148
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: He's dealing with the board of Governors. Yeah, Colin and

1149
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: I disagree greatly on this. I just think the landscape

1150
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: has changed with NI L collectives.

1151
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 13: I know that I thought this was going to be

1152
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 13: just a really good experience and then you and then

1153
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 13: you hit me with that right at the end.

1154
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: So just to be clear, it's for Lane Kiffin, not

1155
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: anyone else. Like Lane Kiffin is running things. He doesn't

1156
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: answer to nobody at Ole miss I disagree. Okay, So

1157
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: you know, Lane, if it's as Joe, why do you

1158
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: I want to take the LSU job, sell me on it.

1159
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 13: If confirm I don't have to say you on it one,

1160
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 13: you can open up the back door and you can

1161
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 13: get a top four recruiting class just regionally. They have

1162
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 13: more resources than anyone maybe other than Oregon. It's just

1163
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 13: quieter than Oregon's. They've got business oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1164
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 13: oh yeah.

1165
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, multiple multiple billions.

1166
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: Sure hasn't shown up in those playoff trips.

1167
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 13: Lot they were able to build a roster that was

1168
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 13: pretty substantial. And granted I don't think Brian Kelly was

1169
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 13: a good fit there, Lane would probably be a great

1170
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 13: fit at LSU.

1171
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: And you want to wait him out huh oh yeah.

1172
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 3: January second, Lane, you're in the semi final.

1173
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 5: We'll see that worth it.

1174
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 13: We'll see Lane's going to be the top three two

1175
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 13: paid coach in college football?

1176
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: Do we do a friendly wager that doesn't have to

1177
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: be monetary? I believe he says it all this.

1178
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 13: Well, what are your options? You tell me who's the

1179
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 13: better option. You don't think Lane Kiffin is a great fit.

1180
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 5: So who's a good fit?

1181
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 7: No?

1182
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 3: No, I think for Lane Kiffin, staying at Old miss

1183
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: makes sense.

1184
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 5: Okay, So who does LSU hire?

1185
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't know that it's that attractive.

1186
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 4: Let me use that word attractive of a job now,

1187
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: given all the upheaval with the ad, the border governors,

1188
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: all this nonsense that's going on there. I mean, Joe,

1189
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 4: you're walking dough into a hornet's nest. Two or false false?

1190
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: Take the Crans away? What are we doing?

1191
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: All right, Kyle? Here we go. Colin has checked in.

1192
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: What about Lane in the NFL New York Giants Jackson

1193
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 4: dart Ren Yeah, no, no, shot no.

1194
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 13: And I said this, I said this to Colin last week.

1195
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 13: I still think that as as big of issues structurally

1196
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 13: that college football has, it's still more appealing to guys

1197
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 13: that have a heart for college football because of the

1198
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 13: influence and immortality that is offered in college football that

1199
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 13: is not offered in the NFL. Fine, go go work

1200
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 13: in the NFL, and you can win a Super Bowl,

1201
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 13: you can win multiple super bowl and all anyone is

1202
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 13: going to care about is who was your quarterback. But

1203
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 13: in college football, like you're you're the king. You know,

1204
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 13: you win a couple of national championships and they build

1205
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 13: a statue of you out in front, and that program

1206
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 13: is always yours. You are the quarterback of that program.

1207
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 13: Plus you still have the ability to influence eighteen to

1208
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 13: twenty two year olds, grow them, develop them, you know,

1209
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 13: from young men into men. And that's I think that's

1210
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 13: still something that is appealing and attractive to a lot

1211
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 13: of guys that stay in the college level and is

1212
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 13: not offered at the NFL level.

1213
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: But stuff, Joel Klett, I'm started to derail things with LSU.

1214
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 5: That's all right, we'll talk off it.

1215
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: Good joby, It's fine. It's a good job, of course,

1216
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: just not right now.