1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: High in. Hello football fans, your old pal Dave Damashek here. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damashek Football Program. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher or NFL 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Podcasts. We look at the world of 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life and now moved 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up everybody, DJ? 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Bucky here, Moved the sticks, Bucky Man. I say this 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: every week. We got a lot of stuff. I don't 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: know that we have a ton of stuff to get 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: to today. To a couple of topics I want to 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: hit on. We'll talk a little bit about Tom Savage 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: taking over the quarterback position over broadcasts, which a pretty 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: big news story there for the Houston Texans, and touch 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: on a couple of these other NFL games and a 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit. But I wanted to lead off because we're 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're scouts and that's what we are they're doing, 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: that's what we do now. So this has been just 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: a huge story with we knew about Leonard Fournett, who 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: is not going to be playing in the bowl game, 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: so he's gonna sit it out. Now. Christian McCaffrey has 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: said the same thing, and people literally losing their minds. No, 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: it's funny to see the reaction, particularly when you're dealing 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter. How um, I guess some people take an 25 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: ideal view of college sports and an ideal view of 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: college football as guys are getting ready to go to 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: the pros. But I'll say this, and I tweeted this, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: football at the lower levels, youth in high school all 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: about the love. It's all about Friday nights, It's all 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: about giving it up for your teammates. It's all about 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: those things when you move on to college and then 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: particularly when you go to the pros. It's a business 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: and everybody on the team is their own CEO of 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: their own company, and you have to make decisions that 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: are smart business decisions for the short, short term and 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: long term interests of your company. And as I look 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: at Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette, two guys that we 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: conservatively will say first round picks, you know aways say 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: for sure with for Nette, and I do believe learned 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: that the McCaffrey end up going up. But we do 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: know McCaffrey's the top forty fix, so he's in he's 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: in a high cot when it comes to what the 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: money will be. And so as you look at both 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: of these guys for their teams played a lot. They 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: were the feature backs for their teams that are old 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: school hammer heads, smash mouth football teams that believe in 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: giving the ball to the dot back. We talked about 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: McCaffrey having over six hundred plus carries and touches during 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: his career, for Netta has has something comparable to that. 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: They're at a point of their careers where the resume 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: is done. We've seen it, you and I can Scott them. 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: We know exactly what we are. We've seen enough film 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: with them for three years to know exactly what they 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: are playing in a bowl game that doesn't have national 55 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: title implications. To me, it doesn't matter. I think it's 56 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: a done deal. And they want to get ready for training. 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: I am all about them getting ready because my job 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: is done in terms of looking at them as college players. 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: All right, let me, I want to there's a bunch 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: of different angles this, So this is gonna be a 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: little bit kind of a rambling rant here, but I 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: want to make sure that I get through a couple 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: of different points here. Number one, I tweeted this out 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: the other day. There's just there's been so much uproar 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: on on Twitter and then people going on TV and 66 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: radio like that. You can't quit on your teammates, right, 67 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing. You're a bad teammate. You're quitting on 68 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: your teammates. It's all about you. It's a selfish act. 69 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: I've heard none of these people say anything about the 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: coaches that have left before bowl games. Tom Herman is 71 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: a great example. And if and I tweeted, I said, 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: look if you were if you railed on Tom Herman 73 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: for abandoning ship before they went to the Las Vegas Bowl, 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: which by the way, I have no problem with. But 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: if you're one of the ones that banged on Tom Herman, 76 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: then you have the freedom to bang on Leonard four 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Nett and Christian McCaffrey if you had nothing to say 78 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: on the coaches. I don't care what you have to 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: say about the players. Can't hold them while we're holding 80 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: different to a higher standard. It makes no sense to me. 81 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: So that that's the first thing that I wanted to 82 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: get to get to their second thing you touched on 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: all these guys have already done for their for their university. 84 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: These two players in particular, have made their university so 85 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: much money. I know they have a valuable education, that 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: that that's a value they they've They've more than served 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: their purpose for those aths departments, all the money that 88 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: they've brought into those programs. I'm not advocating that guys 89 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: in the third, fourth, fifth round skip on ball games 90 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: because there is an opportunity for those guys to up 91 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: their stock. We're talking about guys who are entrenched. We've 92 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: seen so much tape, they've played at a very high 93 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: level for an extended period of time, and they're playing 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: in a meaningless bowl game. I understand it if they 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: don't want to do it, I don't have a problem 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: with and I think all the people I talk to, 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I know there's some maybe some older personnel guys that 98 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, maybe are sticklers on that, and they're gonna 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: have a problem with their competitiveness. The guys I talked 100 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: to around the league or a bunch, and when you 101 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: talk to him as well, do not care that these 102 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: guys are missing these second tier ball games. They flat 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: out don't care it's not gonna have any effect. In fact, 104 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: I was talking to one of them and he said, 105 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: if this is a great it's a great way of 106 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: looking at it. He said, I'm sure, because we know him. 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: That'll be some There will be not a lot. I 108 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: would say, three or four teams in the combine. You're 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: gonna have somebody in the room. It's gonna be Tommy, 110 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: tough guy, and he's gonna say he's gonna make a 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: big point of it. So you're just you're just not competitive. 112 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: You don't you don't want to compete. You just you 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: don't care abut your tamates blah blah blah blah. And 114 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: what I would advise Leonard Fornett to do is to 115 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: lean forward in your chair at the combine, look the 116 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: guy in the eye and say, don't pick me. Don't 117 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: pick me, but get down on those knees right there. 118 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: You get down on those knees every night and pray 119 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: to the lords, because if I do land in your division, 120 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: you will find out very very quickly how competitive I am. Yeah, 121 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I think I think that's the big thing. The funny 122 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: thing is, um the response that I got when I 123 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: talked to guys as probably as recently as a month 124 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: ago about potentially doing this because I threw it out there, like, hey, man, 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: what do you think about guys? Man, I don't know. 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: I think they will get killed. But then as you 127 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: start to see the reaction internally in the league, it's 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: not what I thought. I mean, I can see what 129 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: else they don't care, because at the end of the day, 130 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: they really don't care. And actually we talked about and 131 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: some people that pointed out running backs or whatever, and 132 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: particularly you always are worried about the tread on the tire. 133 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about that, but for some guys, and 134 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: it's not for everybody. And that's why you can't make 135 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: these hard line assertions. It's not across the board people 136 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: can do. It's not a playoff game, and we're not 137 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: saying if these guys are in a playoff game, I 138 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: get that's a different different And the thing that I've 139 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: heard from other people as like, well, why is it 140 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: do need different if it's a playoff game versus another ballgame? 141 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: The difference is to me, those are legacy games. Those 142 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: are legacy games where you have an opportunity to make 143 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: a kind of leave a legacy for yourself as a player, 144 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: as a team, to be part of something great that 145 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: is long lasting. People always celebrate those teams. I don't 146 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: think that they have celebrations for maybe just some BOWLD 147 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: team or some of the the Buffalo while we know, 148 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't want, I don't want to act like I'm 149 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: taking shots at these lower level balls. I mean, I 150 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: get it iftain programs and certain players that's a big deal. 151 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: But I'm just guessing that when when the star players 152 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: at some of these places are in a room and 153 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: they find out they're gonna go play for the Pizza 154 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: Bowl or they're gonna go play in the sun BOWLT, 155 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: they're not all that pumped up about it, not all 156 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: they fired up about it, particularly when you know what's 157 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: going on. And I know a lot of people have said, like, oh, 158 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith, I mean, you have insurance and all 159 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: those things, but we know not gonna even come close 160 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: to touching the amount of money he lost, not even close. 161 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: We'll come close to filling the amount of money that 162 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: he's lost. And also those policies are not as easy 163 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: to cash in on as people think. The main thing 164 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette and I use this 165 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: and I tweeted this the classic case about we live 166 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: in a hot take era where everyone has a hot take, 167 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: everyone goes real hard, real soon, everyone has a loud opinion. 168 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: But we've both seen plenty of cases where all these 169 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: guys need to do and what I would tell him, 170 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: just go kill it at the combine. You kill it 171 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: at the combine. All that stuff will go away because 172 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: we saw this same stuff. Similar about Jadeveon Clowney. He's 173 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: not playing, he gave up on his team, he's not 174 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: This first pick in the draft goes and blows up 175 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: the combine. I'm telling you the NFL people that don't 176 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: even really care about that, we don't understand. We understand 177 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: what they are. And those guys have seen enough tape 178 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to know exactly what these players are. They'll look at 179 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the combines see how athletic they are. And that's the thing. 180 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say this, it pretty much takes 181 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks in training to really make a 182 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: difference in your body in terms of training, speed, development, 183 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: the agility and these things. These guys now get a 184 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: jump because we're talking about January one to Combine is 185 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: starting February eight, so that's eight weeks. In particular, they'll 186 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: have a jump start on some of their counterparts because 187 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: they now can go and really master the Olympics part 188 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: of the evaluation. And if this is a job interview, 189 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: we talked about this process being the longest in the 190 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: job interview. They've done the tape work. Now they gotta 191 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: do the that's check the next box. To check the 192 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: boxes with the combine, You've got eight weeks to do it, 193 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: to focus in and to go into your training free 194 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: from kind of like the nagging injuries that may happen 195 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: in the bolt. And here's here's a couple of aspects 196 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: of this thing. Again, there's a lot of different tentacles here. 197 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: But if I'm a coach, if I'm David Shaw, I'll 198 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: talk to you about this a little bit earlier. If 199 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm ed or Dron, When I get ready 200 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: after the dead period of recruiting and I can get 201 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: back out on the road and I go into these 202 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: home visits, I'm gonna use this to my advantage. I'm 203 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna sit down with a parent of one of the 204 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: top running back star linebackers whoever in the country. And 205 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, look, I I want L s U 206 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: football to be successful. That's my job as a head coach. 207 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: And we're gonna win a lot of football games. But 208 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's more important to me than winning 209 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: football games is your son's future. And let me give 210 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: you an example of that. We had Leonard Fournett. We 211 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: could used him in a bowl game, probably would help us, 212 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: give us a better chance to win that game. We 213 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: sat down and Leonard and I together came to the 214 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: decision it was best for his future that he didn't play. 215 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: Now does that benefit L s U right now, today 216 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: or in the next week. No, But it's the best 217 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: thing for the young man, and I want what's best 218 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: for him, and I'm gonna want what's best for your 219 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: son when he comes in plays for me as well. 220 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: You can absolutely one hid percent uses to your advantage 221 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: where you can use it to your advantage of recruiting, 222 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: but you also can use it to your advantage in 223 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: the development of your team. A lot of times, let's 224 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: not talk about the top ten teams. We'll talk about 225 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: those teams that are in the top twenty five, top forty. 226 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: You hear their coaches always talking about may we want 227 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: to get to a bowl game because it did affords 228 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: us to develop these guys young extra practices. So if 229 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you think about the fifty extra practice is that you 230 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: get in December. Most teams then have moved up to 231 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: the calendar to start spring ball in February, so you 232 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: get fifteen there. I think get another fifteen. So those 233 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: are thirty practices. If you do what you're suggesting, take 234 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: the young guys, Let the young guys get ready for 235 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: the ball game. Give him a taste of during the 236 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: bowl game, come back to the spring. Use the spring 237 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: ball to kind of jump jump off right where you 238 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: left off in the bowl season going into the next fall. 239 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Your guys have thirty extra practices. They have a real 240 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: game in a spring game to be ready for the 241 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: next season. I think it's the way a forward thinking 242 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: coach can be like, you know what, I'm gonna use it. Yeah, 243 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it to my advantage to build my 244 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: team for next year. That's the That's how I even 245 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: tweet that. I said, the worst case scenariolways paranoid. This 246 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: is the tip of the iceberg and more these guys, Okay, 247 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, those lower tier bowls. Look, I 248 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: get the playoffs are all. I think they're always gonna 249 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: be fine. Don't think guy's gonna be skipping out in 250 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I think even you know, the Rows 251 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: could could be fine. Maybe the Orange whatever. I know 252 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Jalen got hurt last year in the few as 253 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: the Bowl. But I think most of those major bowls 254 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: kids will want to play in those still will. But 255 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: in these lower mid tier bowls, if those turned into 256 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: glorified spring games, don't forget we put spring games on TV, National, national, TV, 257 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and I see stadiums with fifty six people and they're 258 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: watching their spring game. And these these fans follow recruiting. 259 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Now you know who your backups are, and if you're 260 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: if you're an L s U fan, you're gonna man 261 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: geists look pretty, wouldn't I see a little bit more guys. 262 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: How about let's get who's his back, Let's get him 263 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of work. Get me excited for next 264 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: year's team, because at the end of the day, this 265 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: game doesn't really mean anything that it doesn't mean what 266 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: it can do for us in the future. Get those 267 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: young guys reps and get them ready to go. We 268 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: always talk about this when it comes to picking. When 269 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: you're picking the winners of the bowl games, you always 270 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: pick the team that's more motivated to be in the game. 271 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: And so the way that you can increase the motivation 272 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: of your team play those guys who haven't had an 273 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: opportunity to play much. Play those young guys. Yes, you 274 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: want to have a senior coordination for those guys that 275 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: have really done and served a program, will but let's 276 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: get the young guys on the field. Let's see what 277 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: they got. So let's say we treat the bowl game 278 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: like you say the exhibitioncy Sason when it comes to football. Okay, scene, 279 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna let you all started, maybe play a quarter, 280 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: quarter and a half, but we canna start sprinkling in 281 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: some of these young guys. I think that is a 282 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: way to really make it a developmental deal. I think 283 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: at Scouts we can understand that, and I think from 284 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: a team standpoint and fans you can get excited about 285 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: what is to come. I just don't think it's that. 286 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if I'm if I'm a fan of 287 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: a team and we're playing in the uh, was that 288 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, and I got a chance, 289 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: and I can leave us a man talking to talking 290 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: about other buddies that went to the school. What have 291 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: you manage said? How about that retcher, freshman receiver. Finally 292 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: it man, he's gonna be good next year. Talking about 293 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: him got him in the mix a little bit. I 294 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: think you can jump started a little bit. And also, 295 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: make no mistake, a lot of these teams have lost coaches. 296 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: So you have teams that are coaching with they're they're 297 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: they're obsessed with the trying trying to bring these guys in, 298 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: and so I I think it only makes sense. I 299 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: think we need to make sure we keep it in 300 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the proper perspective. I understand people kind of take umbrage 301 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: with us talking about the quote unquote meaningless games. We 302 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: say naingless in terms of the big skill. They don't 303 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: necessarily change the plight or perception of a team because 304 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: they're not a final four game and it's not a 305 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: championship game. And I know people hate to think about this, 306 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: but we created this when we talk about more March madness, 307 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: because even when we think about college basketball, what do 308 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: we care about? We care about a tournament that's the 309 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: only thing we care about. There's a national champion and 310 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: everyone else is like, uh whatever, same thinking football. Yeah, anyways, 311 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I think we uh, we got some stuff off of 312 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: our chest there, but a couple of one other thing 313 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I want to hit on before we get to Tom 314 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Savage taking over here for Houston. One other college thing. 315 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked a bunch about this, but 316 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: the the Joe mix and video was released of him, 317 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: uh striking a female in their little restaurant or a 318 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: little strip mall or wherever they were. I saw the 319 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: video is grotesque and breaks several bones in her faith. 320 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: It's awful. So the question is if he comes out, 321 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: is he draftable and how does that work? And we've 322 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: been in that room, Buck, and to me, we've talked 323 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: about it before. When you are an area scout, you're 324 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of you You own your area, and you're responsible 325 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: for for the background on these guys. Everybody's gonna have 326 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: their say in terms of him as a football player. 327 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Gonna watch the tape way in, stack him up on 328 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: your board and get him right. But I've been one 329 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: of the organizations I want to say who, but one 330 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: of the organizations I've been and I've they've been on 331 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: the clock and I was not in the draft room. 332 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: The scouts were not in the draft room with this 333 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: team pulled in there by the owner. The owner of 334 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the team said, you put your name on this guy. 335 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: This guy has had a couple instances. I know, you 336 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: document him in your report. Is a good kid, I mean, 337 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: should we you want to bring him in the building. 338 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Now you're sitting there as a scout and the owner 339 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: is asking you, if you're gonna put your name on 340 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: a guy, you you better be fully believing that this 341 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: guy is on the straight and narrow, because you're gonna 342 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: be tied to it and if it doesn't go well, 343 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna be out of a job. And so as 344 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: a scout, I don't in that situation, Bucky, with what 345 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: we've seen in that video, I know, and people have 346 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: pointed out the fact that the report existed for a 347 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: long time, and we should have been more outraged right 348 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: when the report was as all this huge outrage is 349 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: taking place since the video was released. I get that, 350 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, in the situation, is a scout 351 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: in the room, I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I 352 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: couldn't say, okay, we got a list of these other 353 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: fifteen running backs, some good players up there. He's phenomenal. 354 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna am I gonna risk my job? No, 355 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. You know, it's a tough situation 356 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: because there are a couple of different things that are 357 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: at play, like from the job standpoint as a scout, 358 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: like what you're trying to balance and you're trying to 359 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: mitigate the risk versus reward. The reward could be this 360 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: is a very talented player. I think without any character flaws, 361 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: we could safely say that he's a first round talent, 362 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: a guy that can do anything, because he's rare in 363 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: terms of his ability to run, catch, block, do some 364 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: special things out of the backfield. Explosive player brings a 365 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: lot to the table in that regard. However, when we 366 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: started digging into the character, you have that incident which 367 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: is and just so we can kind of tell the listeners, 368 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: when you're building a bio or fouled on the player, 369 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: you go all the way back. You not only go 370 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: back to what they did collegiately, you go back and 371 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: you try and find out anything that you can find 372 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: high school. You may talk to the high school coach, 373 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: high school guidance counselor as we get it on the road, 374 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: we're really trying to figure out, you're a private investigator, 375 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: who this guy is. And so with Joe Mixing, you 376 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: have that incident last season. During this season, he was 377 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: suspended for a game because he had an incident with 378 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: parking attendant UM where they say it was kind of 379 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: like an angry deal yelling, going back and forth or whatever. 380 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: So now, as the area guy, as you're presenting your 381 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: case about Joe Mixing, and you started to string together 382 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: and connect the dots that there have been a series 383 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: of incidents, it makes it harder to sell him sometimes 384 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: as a top pick. What I will say is things 385 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: that happened to guys that are eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old. 386 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: In the league. There's a faction of folks that believe 387 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: that players can be rehabilitated, Guys can be worked with 388 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: their things that you can put in place to help them. 389 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Depending on your player programs or player development department, you 390 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: may have someone who can help them kind of become 391 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: the man and the character and model citizens. But there 392 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: are there are teams and owners specifically that there are untouchables. 393 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: There are certain things that you do and there's no discussion, 394 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: end of debate. He's not going to be a member 395 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: of our team. Absolutely, And I've worked for I've worked 396 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: for a team like that where we said anything that 397 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: was a violation of them want, be it domestic confused, 398 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: be it put your hands on him, be it anything. 399 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Anything of that debate would throw those guys completely off 400 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: the board. I've been at other teams where it was 401 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: a little more forgiving and it was a case by 402 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: case basis on how you made those character assessments. With 403 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, the biggest thing for him would be ownership 404 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: and coach have to be willing to take the heat 405 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: from a pr standpoint on what the backlash would be 406 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: if you thought about bringing this guy in. You have 407 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: to float that test balloon out there and kind of 408 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: see what the reaction is. Then for him, a lot 409 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: is going to be in that one one, in the 410 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: interviews that we're having at the combine and those other 411 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: situations where we get him. What does your gut tell 412 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: you about this guy? Is this someone that you can trust? 413 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Can you trust him to be free from incident going forward? 414 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: Because if he has an incident as a part of 415 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: your team, all of that other stuff comes back into 416 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: play and do you really want to deal with that? 417 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: And So for Joe Mixing and his team, if he 418 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: elects to come out his team of advisors, they have 419 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: to really craft and narrative. They have to really make 420 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: sure that when he talks to people that he's up front, 421 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: he's cantrite, he's compassionate, he's empathetic, he understands exactly what 422 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: he has done, and he's taking steps to rectify the behavior. 423 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 1: That will be the key. Before you can even get 424 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: to the talent. You have to trust the person because 425 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: if you don't trust the person, you can't make the 426 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: sale form. Yeah, it's a it's just an awful situation. 427 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: And you know, look it depends. I mean you said 428 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that the owner and the head coach have to be 429 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: on board, and I just they have to be in lockstep. 430 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: And and it's tough because like I don't know, like 431 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: I look at I look at a couple of different ways. Um, 432 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: when you do it, because this is this case has 433 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: already been adjudicated, it's already been whatever. And I know 434 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: people have said, like, yeah, he red shirted, but that 435 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: red shirt in essence was a suspension for him being 436 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: on the field. So what you have to do, and 437 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: I know we're at the time, we're like we kind 438 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: of crush kids for their missteps or whatever is you 439 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: really have to figure out who Joe Mixing is and 440 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: can you buy the kid? Because if you can buy 441 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: the kid, then you may be more willing to take 442 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: on the backlash. But if you don't buy the kid, 443 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: if you think there's something odd about his character that 444 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: he's probably prone to do this again, I think you 445 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: have to buy pass it because there are other guys 446 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: on the board that are as talented and can do 447 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: the same things without the baggage that comes. But no, 448 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, if he was the first 449 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: round pick in this draft, he's going to drop a 450 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: number of rounds because this incident is polarizing. It's done. 451 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: But I will say the thing that potentially could help 452 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: him has been a performance of hyreek kill. And I 453 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: won't say that there's no video. It's no video. It's 454 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: not Apples to Oranges. It's not apples Ray Rice when 455 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: the report existed versus Ray Rice, when the video came 456 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: out of two different deals, the same thing Brandon Marshall 457 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: there there there are other cases of of guys. This 458 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: will be a tricky evaluation if he jumps into the 459 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: seventeen class. One thing that we've talked about is, say 460 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon doesn't come out this year, say he putting 461 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: more distance. I think it's a smart move. Not I 462 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: don't know if Oklahoma is gonna feel about that, but 463 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean they've already taken heat. Like I don't know 464 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: how much more heat they can take from from it. 465 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: But like let's let's just say, like, if you're Oklahoma, 466 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: if you Joe Mixon, say he has a team revised 467 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: that UM unofficial advisors. If Joe Mixon elects to go 468 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: back to Oklahoma, what Joe Mixing could do is put 469 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: a plan in place to not only separate himself from 470 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: that incident, but show that he's changed, that he's done 471 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: some things, that he's doing all the steps to kind 472 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: of rehabilitate himself. Much like a Ray Right has been 473 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: able to It hasn't landed, it resulted in a job 474 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: for Ray Rice in terms of as a player, but 475 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: I think we always say, like, man, he has really 476 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: takes some steps to kind of change the perception and 477 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: change who he is. All right, let's uh, let's move 478 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: on here to to the NFL and what's going on here. 479 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Tom Savage taken over frock Ostler. Pretty gutsy move. I 480 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: think the owner even came out and said that gutsy 481 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: moved by your head coach there and Bill O'Brien, gutsy moved. 482 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: But I think it was time. Brock Osweller was struggling 483 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: fifty nine present completion rate, fourteen and sixteen touchdown the 484 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: interception ratio. He wasn't playing or performing like a franchise 485 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: quarterback and your team that's in the thicket the race. 486 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to steal win a division despite 487 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: the up and down play of your offense. As a 488 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: head coach, you have to be able to separate the 489 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: personnel decision that we're made in the spring from what 490 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: is transferring between the lines. He had to board a plug, 491 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: and in Tom Savage, you have someone who has three 492 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: years of experience within that system. He's been two training camps, 493 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: three training camps. He understands all the ins and outs 494 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: of the system. He hasn't played much, but you certainly 495 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: know that he understands where the ball should go um. 496 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Looking at him coming out of the school, there are 497 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: five points that I wrote about him. I thought he 498 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: was a classic drove back pass. I thought he had 499 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: a huge arm, terrific zipp and velocity. I questioned the 500 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: accuracy short and intermediate. I worried about the poison awareness 501 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: because I felt like he held onto the ball too long. 502 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: He had a lot of sacks. And then the thing 503 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: that was positive, I thought he's fairly clutched for what 504 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: he did at Pittsburgh seven games his last seven games 505 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: of his senior year, uh completed over six of his passes, 506 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: tended three touchdown interception ratio. And what was impressive about 507 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: that stretch. All of those games were against Bowl eligible teams, 508 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: So I thought he could step his game up. Only 509 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: worried about his character because he was a transfer Rutgers left. 510 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: Didn't like the situation when somewhere else transferred. Again, what round? 511 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: What round did you give him? I gave him a 512 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: developmental grade, which was a fourth fourth round grade. I 513 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: said he was a Day three pick. I thought it 514 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: would be a developmental prospect that would take a couple 515 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: of years to be ready. I didn't think he could 516 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: start right away. But I thought he had some potential 517 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: that you would kick the tires on. So I gave 518 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: him a a sixty one on my skill that I use, 519 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: which is a potential starter. So you're not saying you're 520 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: not guarantee he's gonna start when you're saying he's potentimential 521 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: starter needs some time to develop. Now, to their credit, 522 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: this has been a perfect path for him go in there, sit. 523 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: He needed to sit and learn and continue to develop. 524 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: He has a lot of physical tools, needed time to 525 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: potentially be a starter. So he ended up going what 526 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: in the fourth round, and now he's got a shot. 527 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, if it's gonna happen for him, 528 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: this is the perfect opportunity for him for it to happen. 529 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: The timing worked out well for him. Timing worked out 530 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: well for him. He doesn't have the same pressure that 531 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: brock osworldhead coming in as a marquee free agent day 532 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: expecting him to be a franchise quarterback that could do 533 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: at all. And I think whenever you commit that kind 534 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: of money to a quarterback, sometimes you feel the needs 535 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: so constantly or not to show it off and to 536 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: have him proved that you guys are right about writing 537 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: a big check. With Tom Savage, he doesn't have that 538 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: pressure like they weren't expecting him to be. Much like 539 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Dad came into the Dallas situation and kind of outplayed expectations. 540 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Tom Savage would have an opportunity to do at the 541 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: thing that we have to watch, and you talked about 542 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: it being a perfect thing. He played a couple of 543 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: quarters against the Jackson the Jaguars. He now plays first game, 544 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: there's some tape on him a little bit. How he 545 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: performs this week, next week will be the game where 546 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: they have enough tape to begin the game playing against 547 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: what he does really will and then we won't really 548 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: be able to know how good of a quarterback he 549 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: is until in the postseason and then beginning of the 550 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: next season if he's still the starter, because quarterbacks have 551 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: to continue to adapt and adjust and evolve. Does he 552 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: have the ability to adapt and adjust when defenses catch 553 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: up to what he likes to do. I need to 554 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: update my quarterback master sheet here too, because when you 555 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: take Osweiler out right put in uh Savage, now you 556 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: have of the thirty two starting quarterbacks in the NFL, 557 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: now only twelve came out as underclassman. Twelve came out 558 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: as underclassman. Ten of those twelve were picked in the 559 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: top three, either the first, second, or third pick, not rounds, 560 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: the top three picks in the draft. The only quarterbacks 561 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: that are underclassmen that came out in the draft that 562 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: weren't picked in the top three that are currently starting 563 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, who has picked the eleventh overall, still a 564 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: first rounder. Aaron Rodgers, who has picked overall, still a 565 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: first rounder. So these are this this long list of 566 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks they're talking about coming out this year because it's 567 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback draft. History shows us right now 568 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: as we look at it, if you're not gonna be 569 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: a top pick, a high first round pick, or at 570 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: minimum first round pick, you're not starting in the league 571 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: right now. Not only that, you're now starting in the league. 572 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: And I think the big thing for the evaluators you 573 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: talk about those guys that were underclass when they came out, 574 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: they were top three picks. That means you're talent, marrits 575 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: that you're one of the best players in the draft, 576 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: and you have to avoid the trap of pushing people 577 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: up based on I need a quarterback versus they're good 578 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: enough to be a top three pick in any draft, 579 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: in any draft class, we could pluck those guys in 580 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: and say that, And so it's a tricky evaluation. Is 581 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: one of those things where you have to really dig 582 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: in and buy into it. And these guys that potentially 583 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: could him into the league as quarterbacks in this class, 584 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: we just have a lot of digg And I know 585 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: we talked at nauseum last year about Jerry Goff and 586 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Carson Winson. Which one was most ready to play this 587 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: year would be even a broader conversation because I think 588 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: on the surface, I don't know if any of these 589 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: guys are ready to be started from day one, But 590 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: which one offers more potential to be an NFL starter 591 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: in more systems, that's what we have to determine. So 592 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: how about this book we've got Now, Tom Savage will 593 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: become the fourth fourth round pick to be starting this year. Now, 594 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: so you have on this list, you've got Kirk Cousins 595 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: was a fourth round pick, Dak Prescott notoriously a fourth 596 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: round pick, and Bryce Petty, who's taken over the job. 597 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: There's a fourth round pick. So it's the fourth guy, 598 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: which to me, when you look at where you're picking. 599 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: There's something to be said. I've always I've always loved 600 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: the philosophy that that Ron Wolf used to do in 601 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Green by always statch a quarterback Draft one every year, 602 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: Draft one every year. Even he would do it like 603 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: more in the sixth seven range. But I'm almost like 604 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: man every year. If as a personnel executive, you're running 605 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: the draft, every year, you take your third round pick, 606 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: trade trade back, get an extra four. So if you 607 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: trade that, get an extra four, it's a bonus pick. 608 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Use a four. Take a quarterback every year in the 609 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: fourth round, take a dart, throw a dark um. You 610 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: know they get one, We're run. I think they would 611 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: go every other year. They were trying to get a 612 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: quarterback in those late stages. They were trying to develop 613 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: them and pawn them off either they could become a 614 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: really nice backup, and there upon them all for picks, 615 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: and we saw them have a successful run. Uh. Mark 616 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: Brunelle was a guy that was like that. Aaron Brooks. 617 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people forget Aaron Brooks would end up 618 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: being a Pro Bowl quarterback down in New Orleans. He 619 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: was a pick like that. Matthew Hasselbeck was a sixth 620 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: round pick that they were able to kind of parlay 621 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: into some other things. They've successfully done that year after 622 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: year after year. If I'm thinking about the draft from 623 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint, we talked about the fourth round. We 624 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: all know how a recess and will kind of tell 625 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: the listeners what happens in the draft. At the end 626 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: of the first and the second day, you look at 627 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: the board and you'll see who are the prominent names 628 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: that are up on the board. Beginning day three, which 629 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: is the fourth round, where do we get picked clean? 630 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: What's positions have we been wiped out on, and what 631 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: players that we had grated higher than the fourth round 632 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: are there. If there's a quarterback that is sitting up 633 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: there above the cut line, those are the guys that 634 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: you would like to target in the fourth round, because 635 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: that means that you thought enough of them that they 636 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: could be started in the league at some point. You 637 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: want to take one of those guys and hopefully you 638 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: have a nice teacher in the quarterback room that can 639 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: teach and develop those guys and maybe you get something special. 640 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: We've seen these young guys perform better than anticipated. Dak 641 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: Prescott Kirk Cousins was a guy that performed very well. 642 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: There's a fourth round pick. As a rookie, Bryce Petty 643 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: has shown some flash is not necessarily as rookie, but 644 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: this year he's shown some flashes. So the fourth round 645 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: pick is a little different. We like to think that 646 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks can come in the first round, but we're now 647 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: begin to see kind of like to tie shift a 648 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, you can see it shift, by the way. 649 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette on Instagram just sent out a picture 650 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: with him and his daughter and he wrote underneath their 651 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: only person I owe something too. So there you go. 652 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette weighing in on that one. All right, buck 653 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: the uh? I think that's gonna do it for us here. 654 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got a fun slated games here. Merry Christmas, 655 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Mary Christmas. I don't say it before then. And then 656 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm off on a on a bull swing. So I'm 657 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna had a bunch of games. Yeah, you hit a 658 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: bunch of hit a bunch of ball games. I'm going 659 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: to a handful, you know, like maybe the plans change 660 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm going to the Some Bowl. I'm 661 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna go see North Carolina. I was going to see 662 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: North Calina. Please Stanford to see Christie McCaffrey. Check out 663 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback from North Carolina, Mitch Ruski, to see if 664 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: he's the real deal. Uh see Solomon Thomas that that 665 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: would be a good one. Um going to Fiesta Bowl 666 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: to see Clemson take on Ohio State. That should be 667 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: one prospect. But you know our gig, we're chasing quarterbacks, 668 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: trying to see if we can find a quarterback. I 669 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: know you're going to see Miami versus Western j C. 670 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Brad Kay in Miami, and then I'm gonna go from there. 671 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to one of the best bowl games, 672 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Michigan against Florida State, a lot of players in that one. 673 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: Then I'll zip down and see Alabama Washington, then come 674 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: back out here for the Rose Bowl with UH in 675 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: Penn State, which would be goody busy, busy out to 676 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: the National Championship game. But it all starts tomorrow night 677 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: point Setia Bowl, Baby y Yoming looking forward to that. 678 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: A couple of get Backsnake looking forward to that game. 679 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, I will We'll be back with the 680 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: audio podcast on Monday, so you want to check back 681 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: in for that on Monday Tuesday. I will be out 682 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith back in the student money to join 683 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks to keep this train rolling. Appreciate everybody checking 684 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: us out, downloading, uh subscribing to the podcast on iTunes. 685 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: We have a bunch of videos popping up, preview videos 686 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: for the coming week here. You can find those on 687 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: the NFL YouTube channel just pump and Move the Sticks there. 688 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Wish everybody a merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and we'll see 689 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: you next week. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with 690 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL 691 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Podcasts