WEBVTT - Legally Brunette: Todd & Julie Chrisley 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:04.559 Hi, guys, Welcome to another episode of Legally Brunette. I 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.160 will be your host today Emily Simpson with my sidekick 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.639 Jane Just Shane. We want to give you a little 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.480 update first of all, on the Lively and Baldoni case. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.040 We haven't talked about it for a while because it 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.720 hasn't had a lot going on. You know, they go 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.520 to trial in March of twenty twenty six. However, there 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.200 have been some interesting things that have happened lately. So 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.640 Blake Lively has dropped the emotional distress claims against Justin Baldoni. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.840 So I was reading about this yesterday and it was 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.600 actually kind of difficult to follow for me to actually 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:36.720 put a timeline together of what happened. But here's the 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.920 way I understand it. A few days ago, there was 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.960 a teleconference between both sides, which is normal when you're 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.760 in active litigation. Right, So you've got both sides, You've 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.320 got Baldoni's team, You've got Blake Lively's team, they have 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.760 a teleconference. I guess there was a conversation that had 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.600 to do with these emotional distress claims. There's an intentional 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:01.280 infliction of emotional distress and a negligent emotional distress claim 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.600 on Blake Lively's side against Justin Baldoni. And apparently during 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:11.000 this teleconference there was a conversation where Lively's attorneys had 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.360 suggested that they were going to drop those claims now 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.840 after Apparently immediately after this conference between the attorneys, Justin 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:26.000 Baldoni's attorney, Brian Friedman files emotion to compel her like 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:34.360 therapy notes or doctors against who against Blake Lively. Basically, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.119 the way I understand it is they're like, Okay, we're 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:37.360 going to. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.200 Drop these claims of distress. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.080 So she's going to drop the claims of distress. Brian 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.160 Friedman then files a motion to compel basically stating that 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.360 she's dropping those claims in order to not comply with 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.560 their discovery requests of medical records or therapy notes. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:01.000 A medical records. That's my guess. My guess is Lively's 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.880 team was like, oh, we're going to have to provide 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.639 all these medical records or conversations or anything to. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.800 Show that there was some type of emotional distress distress. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.359 And then they're and they're like, okay, Lively, can can 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.160 you start forwarding those documents? And then She's like, I 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.840 never went to the doctor. I didn't do anything because 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.840 I was not Yeah, I have some texts with Taylor 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.120 Swift where I was complaining, but I don't have anything else. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.800 So they were probably like, then you don't have a 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:35.800 defense or a complaint. You can't you know, succeed on 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:36.400 this claim. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.440 Right, Well, then so the judge dismisses the motion to 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.679 compel because the judge is like, look, they said they're 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.960 going to drop these claims, and they did dismiss them, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.440 and so why are you filing a motion to compel? 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.040 And then obviously Blake Lively's team says the only reason 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.200 that Brian Friedman filed a motion to compel was for 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:54.799 what reason? 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.320 Well, it would be probably to get her to not 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.480 comply and then maybe publicly it would look bad. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.360 Right he did. They claim it's a press stunt, you know, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.960 sounds like a dumb press seeking another round of press coverage. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.119 Yeah, I don't know about that. That sounds because he's 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.480 clearly experienced where if the claim is dropped, why would 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.400 you want to pursue discovery at a claim that's dropped. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.000 Well, I guess his thinking was, Okay, they're just trying 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.480 to avoid our discovery requests, so let's do a motion 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.200 to compel. But really, you know Brian Friedman's He's excellent 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.520 at working the. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.639 No I know, so I'm putting my trust in him. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.600 I'm just saying, seeing the order of events, it sounds 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.640 like it was poorly executed, but time will tell, and 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.920 I'm sure he knows what he's doing. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.960 So Baldoni's side argued that Lively couldn't have it both 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:50.200 ways by making claims of emotional harm while also withholding 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:54.880 supporting records like medical records. In response, Lively's attorneys dismissed 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.800 the request as a publicity stunt, as reported, and this 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.800 was an entertainment weekly. Actually it was an entertainment weekly. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.280 But then I read several other articles because everybody jumps 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.000 on and starts writing about it. Also, I thought it 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.480 was really interesting that Blake Lively's side consistently argues that 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.680 everything Brian Friedman does as a publicity stunt. But let's 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.120 not forget about the facts. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.360 Let's not forget about Lively and Reynolds and their lifestyle 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:19.840 as we. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.320 Go back in time. If you remember, the original complaint 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.559 filed by Blake Lively's team was on December twentieth, twenty 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.880 twenty four, and The New York Times published a report 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.000 and published the filing on December twenty first, twenty twenty four. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.359 So it was it's very I mean, it's easy to 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.240 see that they colluded with the New York Times, So it. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.760 Wasn't everything they do with publicity stunt, I believe. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.159 So. So anyway, I also found it interesting that the 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.920 judge who is to judge Lewis J. Lyman, formally ruled 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.680 that Lively's emotional distress claims were no longer part of 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.200 the lawsuit. Baldoni's motion to compel was denied on the 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.560 grounds that Lively had already agreed to withdraw the claims. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.160 Oh okay, I know, yeah, he meant to drop the claims. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:01.919 Was informal. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.960 It was on that it was on the teleconference, so 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:05.960 it was an. 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.240 Informal right, So he probably thought, I'm going to file 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.120 the motion and compel, and I'm going to keep pursuing 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.680 my defense until you actually drop it. Yeah, So he 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.800 probably filed the motion to compel to keep the momentum 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:19.920 and to make. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.520 Sure that they actually dismissed the claim. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:22.680 I told you, I trust him. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.920 Yeah, he's a good attorney. I told you anytime, if 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:26.839 I'm ever in trouble, who's the first call. It's quite 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:32.120 Brian Friedman, It's my first call. Judge Lyman also directed 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.760 both parties to reach This is where it's going to 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.760 get interesting. He directed both parties to reach a mutual 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.200 agreement together on whether the dismissed claims would be permanent 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.640 with prejudice or allow for possible refiling later, which is 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.200 without prejudice. Regardless, the judgement clear that Lively would not 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.160 be allowed to introduce any evidence related to emotional distress 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.880 going forward because the claims have been officially dropped from 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.840 her filing. Lively's team responded to the ruling by calling 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:02.200 Baldoni's motion completely unnecessary and framing the court's decision as 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.720 a favorable outcome for their site. They always do that. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.320 They always take every decision this judge makes and they 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.640 turn it around into some favorable like some big win 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.640 for them. So it's it's always. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.880 Like, so, what was this big win was that it's 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.840 dropped without prejudice? 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.159 No, it's he did he didn't. He told them that 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.720 they have to figure out together whether the claims are dropped. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.640 With prejudice or without. So what do you think is 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.039 going to happen there? You think they're going to happen. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:29.760 Oh, they're not going to agree. Neither party is going 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:30.440 to Neither. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:31.400 Party is going to agree to that. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.479 Let's explain what with prejudice and without prejudice means. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.960 Okay, so both of the emotional emotional distress claims have 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.000 been dropped. However, Lively's team is going to want them 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.320 dropped without prejudice. Now you explain what that means. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.599 I don't know what it means. I'm just kidding you too. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.120 Know what it means. If it's dropped with prejudice, that's 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:55.960 the equivalent or close to a judgment in favor of 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.359 right or it's it's as if the judge ruled on 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.520 it and they're it cannot be brought up. It cannot 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.360 be brought up without prejudice means it's just a procedural thing. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.800 We dropped it, but you can still pursue it at 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.120 a later date if you wish exactly so, then with 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.240 that case, Baldoni would want it with prejudice, so that 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.600 way it cannot be brought up again. And then of 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.640 course Likely's team will want it without prejudice, and I 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.800 think it should be without without knowing much more, it 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 should be without prejudice because the judge didn't review anything 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.640 really not in detail. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.840 No, but I mean that's where I mean. The judge 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.040 is basically like, Okay, you guys work it out together 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.200 and figure out if it's with prejudice or without, and 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.200 you think these two sides are going to be able. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.360 That's very black and white. This isn't a gray area 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.840 where they can compromise and come up with something. There's 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.920 no middle ground on this. So I good luck with 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.720 those two deciding with or without prejudice. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.960 So it'll allow for another update next week. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.960 It'll allow for more letters from Brian Friedman and more 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.640 updates from US and more updates from US. All right, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.600 let's move on to Ditty Diddy. I thought it was 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.840 interesting that there was some testimony and Diddy that was 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:06.120 interesting this week. First of all, they called Eddie Garcia 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.600 to the stand, who was a security supervisor at the 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.960 La hotel where Combs attacked Cassie back in twenty sixteen. Now, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:18.440 Eddie Garcia receives complete immunity to testify because when you 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:24.960 hear his testimony he clearly was involved in bribery an 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:25.760 obstruction of. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.760 Justice, so he was offered immunity because you're thinking, well, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.800 witness should just testify if but he committed crimes right 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.959 by taking a bribery and whatnot. Yeah, I mean, so 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:37.480 he didn't. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.800 He's going to perjure himself in the federal court. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.760 So he would just plead the fifth which is I'm 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.680 not going to be able to answer these questions because 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.800 it would be self incriminating. So they're saying, well, we 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.680 want his testimony because we want to go for the 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.800 bigger fish exactly, and so we'll grant you immunity and 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.120 then you can freely speak as to what took place 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:56.839 and keep your money. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:01.959 Yeah, keep your money. So Eddie Garcia takes a stand 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.400 and testifies that he and two other employees at the 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.160 hotel received a lump sum of one hundred thousand dollars 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.560 in cash from Combs to keep the video surveillance under wraps. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.720 So this is how it worked out. First of all, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.120 he gets a phone call I think the evening after 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.520 this incident happened on his work phone, and it was 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:24.000 Ditty's assistant. Her name is Christina Korum and she reaches 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.160 out to Eddie Garcia and says, hey, like, we would 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.240 like the video, and he basically tells her the only 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.800 way you can get it is you have to speak 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.160 to higher than me or you have to subpoena. So 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.079 she gets nowhere. Then she makes a personal visit to 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.520 him at the hotel and she wants the video. And 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.240 this is all clearly under the direction of Ditty and 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:49.120 she makes it. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.839 So she goes to the hotel she wants she wants 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.720 like the original copy to destroy it. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.960 Yeah, So she goes to the hotel. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.120 Like this guy didn't make copies on his phone and 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.200 show his friend and so I don't know it until 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:02.959 you can pull it out. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.040 Yeah. So she makes a personal visit at the hotel, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.080 speaks with Eddie Garcia, doesn't get anywhere again, and then 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.960 I guess off the record. He tells her that the 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.280 video is pretty bad. So then she goes back and 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.960 then later on he gets a third phone call on 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.880 his personal cell phone. I don't know how they got 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.360 a cell phone number, but they got a cell phone 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.280 number somehow. She gets on the phone with him again. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.360 She puts Ditty on the phone this time and he 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.880 testifies that Ditty is nervous during this phone call. He's stuttering. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.360 He's saying, hey, man, you know I'll take care of you. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.440 How can I get a copy of this video I 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.480 need to destroy. It's going to ruin my life. And 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.920 you know I'll take care of you, which he testifies 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.520 that he understands that I'll take care of you. Is 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.040 you know I'll hook you up, I'll get you. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.439 You're on the party list, but you're gonna you are 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.640 now a lifetime supply baby oil. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.760 For you, sir, Yes, you get a Costco membership baby oil. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.880 Costco doesn't sell baby oil. It's for freak out. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.280 Oh that's right, that's right, that's right. We established that. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:03.000 So then they meet at so I guess. So he 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.160 agrees to it, right, I guess. He goes back to 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:10.160 his boss, who security his boss and says the boss says, okay, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.160 ask him for fifty grand. So he tells Ditty, okay, 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.320 I'll give you the tape for fifty grand. He shows 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.040 up at some building to meet Ditty and his assistant 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.240 in security. Security takes him up to a room. They 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.079 make him sign an NDA, a confidentiality agreement, basically stating 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.240 that there's no other videos that it's been destroyed, that 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.200 he is the only one. He's handing it over. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.960 Clearly, Okay, keep going. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.920 And if he breaches this agreement, this NDA that he's signing, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.160 that he's gonna, you know, be in breach for a million. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.880 Dollars up and he might kill right. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.240 I don't think that's any in writing, but I'm sure 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.120 that's implied in the contract. But what is in writing 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.120 is that he would owe a million dollars back. So 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.839 basically it's I mean, the guy makes ten dollars an hour, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:51.640 ten to fifty an. 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.520 Hour, so he making that up? Are you really no? 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:55.880 I read that. I read that he made that he 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.480 was a security guard. He was making ten dollars and 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.800 fifty cents an hour. This is back in twenty sixteen, and. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.719 That so how did the tape because obviously it wasn't 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:05.640 the only copy. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:10.120 Well, let's just finish this. So he goes to the hotel, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.360 he hands over the video that he has, He signs 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:17.040 the NDA, the confidentiality a confidentiality agreement. Combs comes out, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.280 brings him one hundred thousand dollars in cash. Actually, he 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.400 counts the money on a money counter at first. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.200 Because that's what that's what criminals do. Yeah, they have 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.200 money counters, Yeah they do. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:26.840 They have I don't have one. Do you have one? 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:26.959 No? 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.040 I don't either. So he brings out a money counter, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.560 he cash. He counts one hundred thousand in cash in 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.079 front of him. He says, do you want to count it? 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.160 And he's like no, you know, I trust the money counter. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.200 So he puts one hundred thousand dollars in a bag 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.240 and gives it to him. He leaves, He goes back. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:46.000 He gives fifty grand to his boss, He gives twenty 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.400 to another security guard that also witnessed the tape, and 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.080 he gives thirty thousand to himself. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.079 This guy's too honest. He should have well, first of all, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.160 he should have said I only got fifty like you asked, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.679 and then he keeps the fifty for himself and then 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.280 he just the other fifty, right. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.640 But so anyway, well he's an honest man. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.400 He's an honest recipient of bribes. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:11.240 Yes, so he ends up. Oh and also did he 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.640 tells him like, don't go make a big purchase, right, 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.400 So he's warning at like, you know, avoid tax fraud 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.080 and everything else. He uses a thirty thousand to buy 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:23.040 himself a used car in cash. So I guess it 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.120 doesn't ever show up anywhere. It doesn't look suspicious. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.520 Apparently, why did he did he give him a tip of. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.960 I probably because he's just so happy the guys show. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.880 I mean, the guy's a billionaire. One hundred thousand's like 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.600 if I found a quarter in my pocket, So I 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.040 think he's or a nickel thank you. I think he's 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:48.000 just it's just so he's so happy as static. This 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:53.000 guy showed up in hands over the video, right. So anyway, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.000 apparently there was another security guard that worked that night 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.760 that ended up making a video on his phone so 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.480 he can show it to his wife. I couldn't find 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.360 I looked for articles or anything that connected it to 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.199 being in the footage that was eventually that CNN got 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.200 ahold of. So I'm assuming that's where the breach took place. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.920 But I mean, clearly, if he could have sold it 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.440 more to the media. For more to the media, I 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:17.920 don't know what media pays well, I. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.520 Don't know, but here's where he went wrong. He could 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.280 have gotten way more than one hundred thousand dollars from Diddy. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.800 Like this guy, I don't know, because if it's too 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.520 if he was being too greedy, then his car might 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.720 have blown up. And oh, so you're saying he just 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.160 didn't negotiate with mobs and murderers. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.160 I think you don't know. All right, Well, then I 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.840 thought it was interesting that he testified that. Then Shawn 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.760 Combs called him on Easter to wish him a happy 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.360 Easter and call him an angel and tell him that 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.800 he was like a good guy and that good things 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:49.840 were going to happen to him. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.160 And you know, the way I. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:56.840 Interpreted that, I feel like Sean Combs was being like, hey, oh. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.600 He was really checking in. I don't like we're buddies. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.560 Hey, happy Easter. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.320 So wait, when did the deal take place? That was 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.720 Easter of the very next holiday? Like how much time 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:09.320 had passed it? 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:14.000 Well, this was like March of twenty sixteen. Maybe, yeah, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.240 But I thought it was interesting that it was like, 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:22.800 that's a good Friday, happy Easter. In also there was 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.640 So there's also another victim that is scheduled to testify 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.320 that's actually today. Her name is Jane, and Jane is 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.520 a pseudonym. And we didn't talk about this on this podcast, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.560 but I did have a conversation with Aubrey o Day 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.760 last week, so if you want to listen to that podcast, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.760 you can find hers where we talked about. There was 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.000 another victim that testified last week and her name was Mia, 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.800 which was a pseudonym. Her real name isn't Mia, And 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.120 I was saying, I understand that these witnesses come forward. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.560 She talked about sexual assault, sexual abuse. She was Ditty's 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.440 assistant for a long time, and there were all these 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.440 incidents of sexual abuse and assault that she talked. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.000 About against her or that she was. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.920 Her personally, So she had a pseudonym in Core And 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.600 I was saying, I understand that she wants to keep 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.200 her identity on the download, but she's testifying in front 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.480 of them, and testifying in court and testifying in front. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.400 Of the gym. The dangers people already know who she is. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.479 That's p Diddy here knows he's not gonna. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.720 Be like well, apparently she was trying to she was 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.160 testifying under a pseudonym to keep her name out of 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:22.920 the media. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:23.840 I understand. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.800 I mean, he clearly knows who she is. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.000 Oh, I guess there's no cameras in the court room either, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.480 So those crummy paintings. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.400 Right, But what happened is, of course someone finds out 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.680 her identity and there's a YouTuber. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.160 Okay, so hold on before you get any further. Yeah, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.160 I was already thinking this. When people always give a 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.040 fake name and they say not their real name, they 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.400 should just pretend that that's her real name, because if 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.640 she said my name is Mia, and she didn't say 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.680 that's my pseudonym or whatever, then this whoever would try 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.720 to search for her would keep searching for Mia and 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:54.880 they would never come up with her. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.920 Yeah, so you're saying they should just create a whole 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:00.280 false identity instead of instead of just declaring them, they're 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.120 testifying under a pseudonym because they want to protect their identity. Well, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.119 so what happened was the pseudonym and this whole, this 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.600 whole confidentiality that the court's trying to maintain in order 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.600 to keep her identity under wraps did not work because 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:19.199 a YouTuber who was like live streaming and like talking 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.240 about the trial somehow knew her identity and released it. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.359 And then there was a news outlet that posted her 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:30.680 identity on x So the prosecution was upset. They said 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.600 that Jane who is someone that's also using a pseudonym, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.439 is scheduled to testify today, and that she was nervous 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.720 about testifying because it had already been breached with this 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.520 whole mia pseudonym. Now, I tried to look for it. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.360 I couldn't find it, would you I was trying. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:48.600 To find it. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:53.160 Yeah, I looked. Yeah, I was looking for her real 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.879 identity because it had been breached, but apparently they'd scrubbed 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.000 it pretty well. But the judge asked the prosecution to 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.240 draft a possible court order to bar the news outlet 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.560 from court. So there was a news outlet that released 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:05.840 her name on X and then. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.280 That was the need to do that. That's so stupid, I. 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.000 You know, I don't know, especially when the judge made 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.879 it clear that this woman was testifying, you know, under 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.000 and then then the judge the the YouTuber got kicked 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.920 out of court, like they're not allowed to come back, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.760 but the news outlet is allowed to still be there 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.080 even though they released the name on X. And then 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.960 the judge asked the prosecution to draft a possible court 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.760 order to bar the news outlet. I guess if they 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.119 draft this court order and then he rules on it, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.080 maybe he'll bar them from court. But anyway, that's people 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.280 not following. And also there was some I don't know 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.439 if you read this, but there was also some woman 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.080 that uh uh went she went a little crazy. She 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.000 was inside the courtroom yesterday. Apparently she's been at court 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.720 every single day. Outside of the courtroom. Then she was 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.040 in the holding area. I think she's just she's not 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.200 a news report or anything. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.000 She's just someone. 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.920 Yes, she ended up in the courtroom yesterday and apparently 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.280 she started screaming. 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.200 And yelling and in whose defense. 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.000 I don't know. I tried to read what she said. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.440 None of it really, I couldn't tell if she was 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.679 a fan of Ditty or she was a nut. She 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:12.439 was a nut. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.600 She's probably at the Michael Jackson trial too. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.800 Probably, And they removed her from the courtroom, but they 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.760 did not bar her from court. She's still allowed to 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.959 be in the holding area. So I didn't I was like, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:25.000 I didn't really understand that. But anyway, that is Ditty. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:30.920 So that is an update on Blakelee, Blakely, Blakely, Blake 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:35.000 Lively and Justin Baldoni, and an update on the testimony 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.040 that's going on in Ditty. And I will say on 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.200 track of what happens with Jane, because I want to 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.480 see what she testifies too. But well, one more thing 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.040 on Ditty. I was thinking this whole entire time we've 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.840 been talking about Ditty, how he's basically being tried not 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.320 only for well, he's being tried for RICO, which again, why. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.760 She tells what RICO means, I mean what it stands for. 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:56.200 Yeah, what is RICO samsor. 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.560 Stands for a racketeering, influence corrupt organization. 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.000 Exactly, there's a party for you, if you're standing in 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.800 line to pick up your kids, you can tell everyone 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.760 about the Didny trial and that he's being tried under 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.880 the federal statue to Rico, which was enacted for mobsters 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.679 because those guys at the top never actually commit any crime, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:16.400 like al. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.160 Capone to get him on tax fraud before Rico, right, 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.080 but before Rico. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.480 So now that there's Rico, you just have to establish 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.360 that there's two criminal acts within a ten year time period, 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:28.720 that there was a criminal enterprise, and. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.440 The enterprise was designed to carry out the crimes. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.080 And they're acting hard and they're acting on behalf of 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:40.119 or for a unified goal. Anyway, I was thinking in 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.600 this Ditty trial. So far, we have a lot of violence, 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.960 and we know that he's a violent man, but are 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.119 we really is the prosecution doing a good job of 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:52.120 establishing that this is a criminal enterprise? And I think 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:58.560 the testimony of Mia, who was under a pseudonym, was 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.240 not a girlfriend. 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.159 Oh she was an assistant? Was she? 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.960 She was an assistant? And now we have the security 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.600 guard with the hotel, with the bribery, So I feel 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.120 like the prosecution is now honing it. 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.359 It's becoming less of a domestic case and more of 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.280 organized or sophisticated cover ups and carry out, carrying out 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:26.320 further crimes, exactly paying off right, exactly. 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.760 At the direction of Diddy. So I think they're they're 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.720 doing better of establishing. 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.800 You from needing a money counter being in a cell. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.399 That sucks. 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:48.879 That's all right, So let's go into the chrystalies. This 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.119 has been all over the news lately, so I feel 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.640 like we have to go down this road and talk 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.160 about it. So, first of all, how did Todd Julie 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.879 Crisly first rise to fame? We know that they have 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:01.760 reality show, but I had to do some deep digging 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.800 because I've only seen one episode of the show. And 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.720 I'm gonna guess you've never seen them never. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.480 Never. I've seen them in headlines all over the place 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.120 years ago and then now again. But I don't know them. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.359 And I was surprised they were married. Yes, yes, he 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.760 does not look like he would be married. 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.240 He doesn't look like the marrying type. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.480 No, let's leave it at that. 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.040 Todd Chrisly and his real estate empire. So Todd Chrislely 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:30.480 originally built his wealth in the early two thousands through 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.440 real estate investment and development. He ran a company called 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:38.359 Chrisly Asset Management, which claimed to manage and liquidate distress properties. 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.800 During the housing boom, Todd made millions by flipping homes 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:46.280 and investing and property. He projected an image of financial success, 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:51.040 frequently referencing lavish spending, designer clothing, upscale homes, and at 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.840 their peak, the Chrystlies lived in a thirty thousand square 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:59.119 foot mansion Geez and traveled extensively. In twenty fourteen, they 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.399 launched They Have a Counter. I'm sure they have a 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:05.160 money Counter. In twenty fourteen, they launched Chrisly No's Best 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.400 on the USA Network. It was a reality show portraying 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:13.399 them as wealthy, outspoken Southern family navigating parenting, business, and faith. 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.040 It became a hit, known for Todd's dramatic personality and 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:21.240 strict parenting. Success from the show led to spinoffs and endorsements, 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.400 and the family made hundreds of thousands per season. Todd 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.280 and Julia used their fame to their benefit, conducting brand deals, 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:31.120 public appearances, and even podcasting with their show Christly Confessions 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.280 back in twenty eighteen. But along the way, there were 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.480 always some red flags with his family. 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.240 So the show is what put them in the spotlight. 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:44.720 Yes, there were nobody's normies. Normies, yes, we now know 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:45.359 the term Norman. 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:46.040 Yes, ormies. 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.960 Okay, So there's some red flags throughout these years where 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.200 they're building this real estate empire, and I put empire 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:58.520 in quotations, enterprise, criminal, enterprise. Yes, well, so Todd filed 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.720 for Chapter seven bankruptcy back in twenty twelve. According to 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:05.840 court records from his bankruptcy filing, he had claimed to 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.000 have forty nine point four million in debt. He reported 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.960 just four point two million in assets and listed only 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.200 fifty five dollars in a checking account and one hundred 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.800 dollars in cash. His monthly expenses were more than fifty thousand, 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.879 including twelve thousand on clothing, six thousand on food, and 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.680 seventeen thousand mortgage and written other household costs. He also 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:29.159 owed twelve million to Regions Bank and millions more to 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:30.359 other lenders. 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.560 Wait, he owed twelve million, Yeah too, he found only 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:34.920 be four and a half million in debt. 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.240 No, forty nine point four million. 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.080 Forty nine million. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:40.800 Yeah, did you miss that? That was the first thing 0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:41.200 I said. 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.040 I thought you said four million. 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.440 Forty nine point four million in debt. Fifty million dollars 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:48.120 in debt. 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.040 What did he do for income before his TV show? Well, 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.119 I just told you that he Yeah, tell me again 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.000 now that it's forty nine Millionay, I want to know 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.040 what he did for work. 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.639 He was flipping homes, he was building, He building a 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:02.800 real estate home. Well, that's what he claims. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.400 He opened off the banking industry, is what he was doing. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.879 Ran a company called Christly Asset Management where they managed 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:13.240 and liquidated distress properties, and apparently allegedly he made millions 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:16.679 by flipping homes and investing in property. Then he files 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.920 for bankruptcy and he has forty nine point. 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.680 Four million million dollars. 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.080 Yes, fifty million dollars. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:27.520 I mean he spent fifty million dollars or maybe more so. 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.040 During the bankruptcy process, there were allegations. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.880 What would he spent fifty million dollars clothing? I know 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.480 it's one hundred and forty four thousand year clothing. 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.320 He said, cars, trips, lavish. I could spend fifty million 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:41.960 a year. 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:45.840 Like that, fifty million dollars. 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.879 Yes, So during the bankruptcy process there were allegations of 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.880 concealed assets. Todd was accused of hiding income and failing 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.880 to disclose assets, including trust and property possibly put into 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.480 his wife's name. Prosecutors later alleged that Todd and Julie 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.800 used Julie's bank accounts and other people's names to avoid 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.600 revealing income to the bankruptcy court and to the irs. 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:13.240 This is all leading up to their twenty nineteen federal indictment. 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.440 So this is all going on right. Here's the way 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:19.400 I understand it, and this is what I was trying 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.359 to read and decipher. It was, basically, from my understanding, 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.239 a Ponzi scheme that had to do with loans. So 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:31.400 they were taking out loans and then getting more loans 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:32.120 to pay back the. 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.800 Place, as you're saying, instead of getting investors to some 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:40.880 supposed snake oil, they were getting loans, helped pay back 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.919 other loans and then have more money, and they just 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.280 kept robbing Peter to pay Paul. 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.760 Exactly allegedly, well not allegedly, I mean they were prosecuted 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:54.280 for it. So this leads to their twenty nineteen federal indictment. 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:59.800 Prosecutors charged the Chrislies with one bank fraud, submitting falsified 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.399 documents to banks to obtain large loans. So that was 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:05.359 the first part of this Ponzi scheme as I understand it. 0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.800 First of all, in order to get all these loans, 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.000 they had to falsified documents to make it look like 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.120 they have more income or more assets than they do 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:14.520 in order to get the loans. 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.439 Second, this is why the world hates us, because people 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.520 go and get loans and spend all kinds of money 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.040 on clothes, then file bankruptcy and then thinking is walk 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:25.080 away right. 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.480 Second, wire fraud using fake emails and bank records to 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.520 qualify for funding. Third, tax evasion not paying federal taxes 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.120 or filing returns for multiple years, and for a conspiracy 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.240 to defraud the United States. They pled not guilty and 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.160 claimed that they were being framed by a former employee. 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.720 And this former employee also when they went to trial. 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.080 I think he was convicted of three years. He was 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.320 like a financial advisor or something, which you told me 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.600 when I was telling you about this. You get sick 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.760 of people blaming their financial advisors. 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.520 I do as stupid. It's because they still have to 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.240 sign everything and they still need to be responsible. You 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:06.000 can't just hire a financial advisor to alleviate yourself and 0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.840 create some veil where it's like, oh, I didn't know 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.760 he did it, not me, fifty million. You were stuck 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.000 on that fifty Yeah, I had no idea it was 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.560 fifty million dollars. 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.160 So then COVID comes along and delays their trial proceedings 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.320 from twenty twenty to twenty one. 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.840 Flip homes and make that kind of money, so. 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:30.520 You think so you think, well, he's no. Well he 0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.119 might have. He might have flipped a couple, or he 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:32.480 might have. 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.760 A couple couple, but not enough to. 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.040 Have fifty million dollars in debt, not unless. 0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.080 You falsify the loan documents. 0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.640 Well that's what they claim, and that's what they were 0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.360 convicted of. Was falsifying loan documents. In June of twenty 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.840 twenty two, their trial began. The prosecution's main evidence was 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.960 fake bank and financial documents. Julie Crisley allegedly created fake 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:58.920 fake financial documents, including falsified bank statements, fake credit reports, 0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.880 and altered financial audit letters. These were used to apply 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.000 for and receive over thirty million dollars in loans from 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.920 community and regional banks between two thousand and seven. 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.960 And they they got addicted. It was easy money, yeah, 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:14.600 and they just wanted more and more and more. 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.800 There's so other evidences, emails and text messages. Federal agents 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.000 recovered emails and text messages between the Chrystalies and co 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:27.520 conspirators that revealed that Julie allegedly emailed fake financial statements 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:30.760 to third parties who submitted them to lenders, and Todd 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.960 and other co conspirators discussed how to trick banks into 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.200 approving their loans golly. 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:39.680 And then when I go get like a loan for 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.760 a car, it seems like amount of paperwork, and I'm 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.719 like trying to state my case and make it like 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.479 I could afford it, and then these people just go 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.440 and get fifty million dollars. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:53.000 And loans and then file for bankruptcy and not pay 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.120 back the loans and then get more. Sorry, I think 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.840 they probably get more loans to pay back as many 0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.800 loans as they can. But then when they start to 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.480 get to the point where it's like loans, then you 0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.920 just file for bankruptcy and you just start over, and. 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:07.480 You say it's a Ponzi scheme. You know, it's called 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:08.160 the Ponzi scheme. 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.640 Yeah, you know the history on the guy's name was Ponzi, Yeah, Charles, 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:12.680 Charles Ponzi. 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.640 Yeah, in the twenties, and he was making a fortune. 0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.360 What was what was his Ponzi? 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.160 His original business idea was valid? 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.600 Okay, what was this? This is the twenties, the nineteen twenties. 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:28.840 In the twenties, he he it was there was international 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:33.800 stamps posted stamps that could be used to mail internationally 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.000 to other countries. Like countries got together and agreed that 0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.800 this was a universal stamp. It was cheaper in Italy 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:47.440 the stamps. Why then, I don't know, exchange rate or something. 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.960 So he was like, hey, I'll buy the stamps there, 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.360 I'll bring him to the States and I'll resell and 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.600 it'll be cheaper for the buyers, and I'll make a profit. 0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:57.880 Totally valid. 0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.480 That's a legitimate business plan. 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.920 Legitimate business plan. Okay, it got out of control and 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.400 then he then he just ended up going into a 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.400 Ponzi scheme where now he couldn't keep up with the 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.600 demand and he was just getting investors and he wasn't 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.960 actually buying the stamps, and he was paying people back 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.080 and he was then it turned into a true Ponzi scheme. 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.280 So a true Ponzi scheme is when you have people 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.880 invest in something and then you just use that money 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.000 to pay back some of your investors at the top, 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.880 and then you just get more people and sometimes usually. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.960 Just pay a little bit like so, then then a 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.080 newspaper came and wrote a complaint about him that it 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.320 was a Ponzi scheme. Of course they labeled back then, 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:39.040 but they said it was fraud. He sued the newspaper defamation, yes, 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.600 and won five hundred thousand dollars in the twenties ties, 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.840 even though he was a crook and in that time prior, 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.080 I think, when the media came out and said he 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.560 was a scam, he opened up his doors and said, 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.200 I will pay all my investors back and they came 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.560 and he would pay him back with a little bit 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.760 of interest or whatever the agreement was. And then he'd 0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.600 be like, see, I have money, are you sure you 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.840 wanted it back? And then they eventual he said no, no, no, 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.560 keep it, keep it, keep investing in. Yeah, and then 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.200 he won five hundred thousand dollars. And he had like 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.200 a heated pool for his mom in like the twenties 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.920 and all this like fancy home and electricity and cars, 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.040 and I think he had a permanent cabin on some 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.000 yacht for his mom that would go across the seas. 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.040 He was out of control. And then he got busted. 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:22.280 How did he finally get caught? 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.960 That I can't remember. Oh yeah, I can't remember. 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:26.920 So that's the end of the story. 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:30.120 I didn't finish the book. But he didn't get caught. 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.920 He got extradited to Italy. And then Italy is supposedly 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.640 just like slapped him on the rest and said, yeah. 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:35.640 You're the bad boy. 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.720 Yeah, yeah, don't do that again next time, don't get caught. 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.000 Right, here's some pasta all right. So other further evidence 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.640 in their original trial was testimony from a former business associate, 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.720 a former employee Mark Braddock testified against the Chrystlies in 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.840 exchange for immunity. He claimed he helped Todd commit fraud 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.040 for years and was involved in faking documents, forging signatures, 0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.400 and submitting false applications. He also claimed they paid off 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:05.000 banks using newly fraudulently obtained loans, operating almost like a 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.959 Ponzi scheme, which is what we talked about. And then 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.040 there's also evidence of spending beyond their actual income. Despite 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.280 claiming little to know income on taxes and bankruptcy forms, 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:19.240 the Chrystlies spent tens of thousands monthly on luxury items, 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.280 paid for designer clothing, private school tuition, luxury cars, and 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:27.719 rent for multimillion dollar homes. The prosecution highlighted this to 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.479 show that the Chrystlies were not simply bad with money, 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.360 that they were intentionally living beyond their means while lying 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:36.880 to banks and to the government. And lastly, there was 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.200 a pattern of concealing the income. The Chrystlies use various 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.360 strategies to avoid detection, including routing income through a production 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:47.240 company controlled by Julie to shield it from the IRS, 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.600 and claiming to have little personal income while receiving thousands 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.440 per month via other entities. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:55.440 Losers. 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.360 The conviction and sentencing, the jury found them both guilty 0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:01.960 on all counts in November of twenty twenty two. Todd 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:03.920 was sentenced to twelve years, Julie was sent in to 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.320 sentence to seven years, and both were also given sixteen 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.440 months of probation following their following release. 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.160 Well, he had twelve years and so he got seven. 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.040 So they spent three years. Give her take what do 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:17.319 you mean? 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:17.839 Oh? 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:18.960 Yeah, less than three years? 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.240 Yes, So in January of twenty twenty three, they report 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.960 to prison. Todd reports to the Federal Prison Camp in Pensacola, Florida, 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.719 and Julie reports to Federal Medical Center in Lexington, Kentucky. 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:35.640 So what happened to the children. At twenty five years old, 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.920 Savannah Chrisley became the legal guardian and family spokesperson. She 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.560 took custody of her younger brother, Grayson, who's sixteen, and 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.120 niece Chloe, who was ten. And this was Todd and 0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.080 Julie's adopted granddaughter. Because Todd had two children from a 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.719 previous marriage, he was married before, so he's been married twice, 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.319 so he has two. He has two children from his 0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:00.160 first marriage. He had a falling out I believe with 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.279 the daughter, and she was kind of a strange from 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:03.600 the family. I don't think she was part of the 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.960 reality show or anything, but I think she did offer 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.239 support for them publicly when they went to press. 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.919 To be fair, we won't judge the family affairs because 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.120 we don't really know any Yeah, but the stealing money 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.000 is a problem, Okay, and then I'll judge all day long. 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:19.920 That you're going to judge. And he also had a 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.759 son from his first marriage who had Chloe, who is 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.279 the granddaughter. And then I believe the son had some 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:30.160 substance abuse issues, so Todd and Julie adopted the granddaughter. 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.880 So they prior to going to prison. 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:36.560 Prior to going to prison. Yes, she became the public 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.600 so we're talking about Savannah. Savannah became the public face 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.640 of the family, frequently speaking out in interviews and on 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.799 her podcast Unlocked with Savannah Chrisly about the injustice she 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:51.520 believed her parents faced. She continually expressed being overwhelmed. I mean, 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.160 she is taking care of the kids, so I get that, 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.399 but was committed to keeping the family together. Quote, I'm 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.040 helping raise two children while also dealing with the loss 0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.080 of my parents being in a way, she said in 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.520 a twenty twenty three interview. Savannah's older brother, Chase, did 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.280 not become a legal guardian. However, he did support Savannah 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:12.000 and helping with the two younger ones, Grayson and Chloe. 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.200 So Savannah has been the one that's been working tirelessly 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:21.160 to have her parents pardon. Let's just talk about pardon 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.879 power so that we know where that comes from. So 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:30.840 the president's power to grant pardons comes from. It's outlined 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.960 in article yes the Constitution, Article two, Section two, Clause 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.359 one of the Constitution. I like to give you guys 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.320 this little bits of like interesting legal to me, it's interesting. 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.640 I love the Constitution. I actually had a small pocket 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.360 version of the Constitution that I just had in my purse. 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.799 I mean along with yeah, I would like to read 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.480 it along with like snacks and you know, sandwiches. I 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.200 also have a copy of the Constitution. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.200 Okay. I never knew that this. 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.680 Power is broad but not limitless, and it allows the 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:03.080 president to offer forgiveness and restore rights to individuals convicted 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.400 of federal crimes. Pardon power is explicitly limited to federal 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.440 offenses only, not state offenses, and this means the president 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.760 cannot pardon individuals for crimes committed under state or local laws. 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.400 So on May twenty seven, twenty twenty five, the presidential 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.160 pardon is granted. President Donald Trump issues full pardons to 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.680 both Todd and Julie Chrislely. The pardon cites claims of 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:32.920 unfair prosecution and procedural irregularities and the trial. The couple 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.359 is released from prison having served roughly two years. All right, 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.680 first of all, what is your thoughts. I know we 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.680 were having this conversation, but you were saying you didn't 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.640 think that they should be pardoned. If anything, you felt 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.880 like their sentence should have been commuted. 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:51.400 Right, because a pardon pretty much says you didn't do 0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.719 the crime right, or you were unfairly prosecuted and you 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.480 know you shouldn't have been found guilty, or something to 0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:01.680 that effect. I don't know. If there's there's paper trails, 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.080 it's a crime not of testimony, but of just like 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:10.440 their own signing documents. And I disagree based on what 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.720 I know, I disagree with the pardon. If anything, commuting 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.040 the sentence would have been better, because then it'd be 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.879 like Okay, you know what, that's more like, you did 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.320 the crime, You did enough time. Your sense was harsh. 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.760 This is enough. You're not a risk of society. If anything, 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.399 can be more productive, and we don't have to pay 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.279 for you to sit in jail, so you sent them out. 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.040 I think a pardon was not a good idea. I 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:34.919 disagree with that, and I think, and now that it's 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.560 fifty million dollars, I definitely think they should be in jail. 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.960 Still in jail. Do you think two years was not 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:41.600 enough time? 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:43.040 No? 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:43.719 No, you know what. 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.239 The the should be an eye for an eye. It 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:46.920 should be like you're not allowed to have more than 0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.480 five hundred dollars in your pocket at any given time. 0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.359 You cannot be rich anymore because your phony. So you're 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.600 saying they lived a life or luxury and now they 0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:55.400 should suffer. 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.719 So you're saying, if someone commits fraud to live extravagant 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.160 life style, they should never be able to live in 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.680 extravagant lifestyle again, even if they earned it legitimately after 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:07.880 they came out of prison. You're just not allowed to 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.520 ever be rich again. That's your punishment. 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:18.040 So. 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:22.400 In other news, Savannah Christly addresses rumors about her parents' pardons. 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.439 Days after Todd Christly and Julie Chrisly were released from prison, 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:29.640 their daughter addressed conspiracy theories about her year's long efforts 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.640 to free her parents from behind bars. 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:32.840 Quote. 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.799 Obviously, the biggest misconception right now is that I either 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.240 paid for a pardon or I slept for a pardon, 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:39.880 Savannah told the media. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:40.360 A lot. 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:44.839 You Well, she's very attractive. 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.480 She looks like him. He is pretty. He is pretty. 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:53.280 Okay, she's pretty. They're both pretty. Savannah told the media 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:55.760 alongside Todd during a May thirtieth press conference. 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.399 I just have very little sympathy for people that take 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.520 other people's money knowingly. This isn't This isn't like a 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:06.399 business venture that went bad or they kept throwing good 0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.280 money after bad because they were. 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.799 They were trying to have something. 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.480 Authornically, they were genuinely trying something, even if it was 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:16.080 poor decision, they should have known better. Yeah, this is. 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.680 Like intentional fraudulent. They were big fifty million dollars that 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.080 are doctored. Here's the argument, and this is where I 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:28.120 think people like when you talk about Menendez, there's clearly 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:31.560 victims and brutality. When you talk about a crime like this, 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.799 there isn't. I think people look at it people, but 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:36.680 I don't think people see it that way. I think 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.600 people see it as a victimless crime. 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.360 It's not I don't I never really understood victim. I 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:45.319 guess meaning there's no individual person harmed, and I think 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:46.160 it's still a crime. 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.200 I think also people I have a problem with capitalism 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.279 a lot, and they feel like people like this are 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:57.120 just sticking it to like the you know, banks and 0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:01.080 you know, the like there's no there's there's no actual victim. 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.000 You know, when people don't pay their car payments and 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.600 they're like, so what so land Rover doesn't get my money? 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.399 Or well, well that would that would be okay. If 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.880 the person was fell flat, flat on flat on their 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.680 fees at the term and they had no money and 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.360 they couldn't pay, then it's not a it's not criminal. 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.960 It's just a financial situation. This is criminal. I'm sorry, 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.000 but you take fifty million dollars or more so, you 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.080 because you think you should live a certain lifestyle. Screw them. 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.439 She also states during a press conference that if people 0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.840 knew the countless hours and money in time I spent 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.920 going to d C literally with not a meeting scheduled, 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:40.600 and I just got on a plane and went and said, 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:41.920 I'm going to be in the right room and the 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.799 right time, I meet the right people. So basically, I 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:49.279 know she spoke during the RNC and I think she 0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:53.239 her She alleges that her parents were unfairly prosecuted and 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.440 gone after because they were supporters of Trump, so that 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.520 it was a political She was wrong. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.680 They were going after them because because they committed crimes 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.560 and owed fifty million dollars. She forgot that part. 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.160 Yeah, he claims in his press conference that they are 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.800 completely innocent. 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.200 So I would But you know what, that's the thing, 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.279 the pardon. I bet you a million bucks that party 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.359 may it like, see, we didn't do anything. See that's right. 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.040 Now they can run around and claim innocence. But if 0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.279 it was just commuted, then maybe they could not run 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.239 around and say we didn't do anything. They wouldn't have 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:25.840 that argument. 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.319 Well, I would love for them to take the opportunity 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:32.600 to prove how they are innocent, because as far they. 0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.400 Already had an opportunity and they sucked at it and 0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:34.920 they went to. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.200 Jail for I know, but I'm saying now after the fact, 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.759 if you're going to do press conferences and continuously talk 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:41.880 about how you're innocent and you didn't do anything wrong 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.000 and that's why you were pardoned, then how are you innocent? 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:45.640 Let's see it? 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:48.560 Are we going to see him out? Bravo? Con I 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:52.799 don't know, beause I have some questions. 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.279 Todd also spoke and maintained that he and Julie did 0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.040 not commit the crimes for which they were convicted. Quote, 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.960 even though this pardon happened, I still was convicted of 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.360 something I did not do. It could be you, It 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.160 could be you, It could be any of you. He 0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.080 said during a press conference that it. 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.120 Could never be me because I will never take out 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:10.760 a loan for fifty million dollars. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.200 Well it was falsified, fifi. 0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.239 I don't care whatever. I wouldn't falsify paperwork to get alane. Yeah, 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:18.520 so it will never be me. 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.560 Chrisly Todd and Julie Cristly's alleged pricey demand for their 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.600 TV comeback raises eyebrows in Hollywood. This was an article 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.080 on Daily Mail. Apparently they are shopping or they're being 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:34.080 offered a brand new reality series documenting their return back 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:38.160 into their normal life post prison. According to sources, that 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.160 might not be a problem, as many TV production companies 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.600 are considering signing the couple. However, their price may be 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.800 a hindrance as they're seeking a seven figure payout. Recently, 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.920 some television producers opened up to The Daily Mail sharing 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:56.240 their thoughts about Todd and Julie's extremely high price tag. Quote, 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.279 we would love to work with them, but their price 0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.479 tag is way too high. 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.799 One the complication has no assets. Now he's got to 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.640 build up his wardrobe, right, He's got to catch up 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:08.879 on whatever procedures he didn't get while he was locked up. 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.279 They also shared that they weren't entirely sure if Todd 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.520 and Joy would be worth such a huge amount, that's 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.160 the thing. Would people want to watch them? The producer asked. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.399 Another producer revealed that the specific amount Todd and Julie 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:25.360 were requesting. According to them, the couple is allegedly asking 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.160 for a whopping five million dollar minimum to make a 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:33.120 reality show post prison. That's where their conversation starts. Five million, 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.520 but they're hoping for a bidding war to take the 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:36.840 price even higher. 0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.080 So it should be in the slammer. 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.319 So you're not a fan, you're a fan. Listen, here's 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:45.040 my thoughts on pardoning. I understand and I understand the 0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.680 Constitution and the president has pardon power, and I agree 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.919 with that. I feel, however, just because of the work 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:53.719 that I do and the things that I'm involved in. 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.359 I mean I look at cases and things, see things 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.360 all the time and meet people involved in the Innocence project. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:00.800 My mind, I'm. 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.360 Thinking, why are we at those cases? 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.680 Why are we not taking it deeper? Are why is 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:12.719 there not a consultantdenzar. 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:11.600 Or in addition to a pardons aar, they should have 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.640 a wrongly convicted zaar. Yeah, I would love it for 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.480 those because the lady that was appointed as the pardons are. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:20.640 Alice. 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.719 She's awesome, she is and she's lived up to her 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.920 end of the deal of just being a good person 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:31.040 to society and trying to help those who you know, 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.640 need to get back up on their feet. And she's 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.920 the one that sought out the chrislies. I think in 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.759 some fashion. I mean, she was probably approached, but she 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.719 did her homework because I watched an interview with her, 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:46.719 she did her homework and she felt after doing her 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:50.680 homework that they were wrongly convicted or and definitely wrongly 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.960 sentenced or harshly sentenced. So I do know that she's 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.400 a pretty genuine good woman. So I hope that she 0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.200 did her homework enough. But I still disagree. 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.160 Well, you disagree on I disagree. 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.680 Based on what I know, right, there might be things 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:08.080 I don't know. No, I know what I know, you 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:09.560 know what you know. I don't think I know what. 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.319 I guess. The point of what I was saying was 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:13.560 in the in the field and the things that I 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.399 work in, and you have been involved in a lot 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.600 of it, and we meet a lot of people that 0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:19.480 have been wrongfully convicted, and my question is why are 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:24.000 we not investing more time and energy into those cases 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.200 that the Innocence Project picks up and puts all this 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:26.960 time and energy. 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.840 Well, I guess the argument is if they were pardon 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.680 then the argument is they were wrongly convicted. So they were, 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:34.920 But I would. 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:36.880 Rather I would just I would If we're going to 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.799 have pardoning power, we're going to pardon people. I would 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.799 rather pardon someone that has been in prison for a 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.480 long time that was either wrongfully. 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:45.719 Convicted, like one of the cases that you help with, 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.360 or it takes they have evidence and now it still 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:52.839 takes yes years, yes to actually yes, get it overturned. 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.000 I am released, right. 0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.200 But you're saying so when the president can just come in, well, 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.040 assuming it's a federal crime, when the president can come 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:00.880 in or the guf A R could come in his 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:01.839 boom and get him out. 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.760 Yeah, I just I wish there was I just needed 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.719 maybe the Christie should have a reality show where they 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.560 go around the prisons and they talk to people. That's 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.320 what they should do. Did you hear that, Todd and 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.760 Julie Chrisly if you're looking for a reality show because 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:18.200 they did complain. You see an interview with Todd Christly 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:22.520 where he does talk about the prison environment and how 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.319 bad it is and how bad the food is, and 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:28.160 he did say he said that African Americans are treated 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.040 more poorly than the white prisoners, and he said he 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:35.680 received privileges because he was white, and he he made 0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.600 that known. He said it in an interview. 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.839 See that's interesting. So you do your part and bring 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.799 all that to the public and expose those things and 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:44.840 try to make it better. 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:48.080 Okay, I there, that's a good solution. We together would 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:51.759 get behind a reality show with the Chrislies if they 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.920 want to do prison reform or do some type of 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.279 Innocent's project or or work with wrongly convicted and. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:00.279 Then he has to give all his money back to 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:00.600 the bank. 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.879 Oh yes, but because he has to give the money 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:08.080 back to all right, that is the Chryslies will keep 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.080 you updated and on things that have to do with 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.080 Diddy and Lively and if there's any more that comes 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.920 with the Chrystlies will be aware of whether they get 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.920 their reality show or not, or whether they listen to 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:23.440 this podcast, and then we'll recap it, recap shot the 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.120 reality show. 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