1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, l Calves joins me 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: to talk mister b Bill Bidwell, the longtime owner of 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the franchise, announced as the newest inductee into the Ring 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: of Honor, very much deserved. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: five eighty one, and it starts now Welcome to Cardinals 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down he goes for 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. Cardinals Cover two is 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. Hes in again, 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: So for Harry Magic. WHOA, here's Craig Grielou. Mister b 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Bill Bidwall, the longtime owner of the Cardinals franchise, his 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: name right next to his father's name, Charles Bidwall, inducted 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: into the Ring of Honor back two thousand and six. 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: But mister b Week one, right out of the gate 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: season opener against the Kansas City Chiefs, the nineteenth member 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals Ring of Honor, and certainly well deserved because, 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: as we've discussed off air, Paul, mister b responsible for 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: bringing the National Football League to the state of Arizona. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: If you have a bow tie, wear it, wear it 21 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: for the opener as they honor mister B and and fittingly, 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: so you know, we did. We talked about it, and 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you realize this scope of the achievement 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: in bringing the NFL to Arizona, bringing Super Bowls to Arizona. 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: No one was more responsible than Bill Bidwell. And when 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: we were at his funeral a few years ago, you 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: heard firsthand from members of the family, those close to him, 28 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: just everything that was involved in relocating the franchise, getting traction, 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: getting the building, everything that went with it to now, 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Cardinals games, if I saw 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: it right, this is the tenth straight year that Cardinals 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: TV broadcast have comprised the top ten most watch television 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: programs in the Phoenix metro TV market. So that just 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: shows you what sort of attraction and how they've resonated. 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: But that doesn't define mister b in his entirety. You 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: think all the charitable contributions, the existence of Cardinals charities. 37 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: Everything he did behind the scenes was zero attention or publicity, 38 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: which we learned about after his passing. You think about 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: his track record of hiring, diverse hiring in the workplace, 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the first African American female executive, and Adele Harris I 41 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: know my first year on the sideline. Dennis Green was 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: the head coach Rod Grays's GM, the first African American 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: combination of head coach and GM to lead an NFL franchise. 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: So you had all that combined and to someone who 45 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: there was no better historian of the game, either football 46 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. He basically he knew the hundred years of 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: NFL football. And all you had to do is sit 48 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: down for a few minutes with mister B and man, 49 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: you would you thought you knew the game, and until 50 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: you heard some of the historical perspective he had as 51 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: someone who was a ball boy in the NFL and 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: and as someone obviously who who became into that ownership seat. 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: And then and now look, his dad is a Hall 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: of Famer, Charles Bidwelly. So it'll be quite an honor 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: to see those two names in the Ring of Honor again. 56 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: That is Week one against the Chiefs, mister B going 57 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: into the Cardinals Ring of Honor, and yeah, great storyteller 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: or stories of him walking into the media works at 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the facility and you you know, typically the owner walks in, well, okay, 60 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: we've got an opportunity to ask questions, you know, impromptu 61 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: press conference nub. Mister B would just sit down there 62 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: and tell stories of back in the day and been 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: the year, whoever was there, and it was just great 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: to hear perspective based off of what the game is 65 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: now versus what it used to be when one he 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: watched it with his father run in the franchise, then 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: him taking over his sole owner, and then once again 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: the relocation. Remember Michael talking at the funeral that moving 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: to Arizona. Mister B put it to a family vote. Yeah, 70 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: that's right, and you know you're that's usually that's okay, kids, 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: we're going to Arizona. We're heading west. No, it was 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: a family decision, and that's what family meant to mister B. 73 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: And the just the enormity of that type of a 74 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: move where you're uplifting an entire family, let alone a franchise. 75 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: It's amazing, whether it's a media room or was in 76 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: the meal room on the road, and when when you're 77 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the visiting team in the team hotel. Yeah, just all 78 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: the anecdotes you would hear if Ron Wolfley was around, 79 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: because Wolf was one of mister B's favorite players. All 80 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: you'd get some great stuff from back in the day, 81 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: and how Wolf would lose his mind on a game 82 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: day and U mister B literally wasn't exactly sure if 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: both was adjusted properly, and so you know, there was 84 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: all this, just some great stuff in that regard, but 85 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: once again, didn't do it with a lot of publicity 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: or a lot of fanfare. And it really wasn't until 87 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: his passing that he learned just the scope and magnitude 88 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: of everything he had achieved as Cardinal's owner, away from 89 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the spotlight, away from the cameras, sometimes by himself just 90 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: going out and doing something around the community because he 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: wanted to help. And you know, I'll never forget I 92 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: don't think winning vessel. Forget. It would be the NFC 93 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Championship game and there he is up on it and 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I think was Bertrand Barry who handed him the trophy, 95 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship trophy, and the big smile in his face. 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: The other snapshot that I just remember from mister B. 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: And I forget how far back I go. It was 98 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: the ninety eight playoff win in Dallas, and I remember, 99 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: as a member of the media being led into the 100 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: locker room and mister b was holding the game ball. 101 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: The team had given him the game ball, and that 102 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: was the other time I just saw him smiling from 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: ear to ear. Those were the two moments, the NFC 104 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: championship and the playoff win in Dallas. No one gave 105 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: the Cardinals a chance to go into Dallas and get 106 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: that win, the first playoff win in half a century. 107 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: And so those those are just two great images. And 108 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll see, we'll see what it's going to 109 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: be all about. At halftime once again, it's uh, you know, 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: it's by ob bring your own bow tie to see 111 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: if we can find one to match you on the sidelines, right, 112 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of dressing a little bit more 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: comfortable on sidelines, but we camp get you one of 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: those rap around bow ties for you on the sideline. 115 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: That'd be good. No, absolutely, that's uh, you know, so yeah, 116 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: that's uh. And the schedule is amazing. The schedule, I mean, 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: starting with Patrick Mahomes out of the gate. Look out, 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: even this preseason game coming up against the Baltimore Ravens 119 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: and they're Twente. There's one team you want to play 120 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: at home in the preseason, it's got to be the Ravens. 121 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: They've won twenty one in a row, right, Yeah, I 122 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: still amazed at that statistics. Yes, it's an NFL record, 123 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: but how how does that happen over several years when 124 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: you're just evaluating players? But it obviously means something to 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: that organization. In fact, we had a chance to hear 126 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: from Hollywood Brown on Wednesday, former Baltimore Raven He's looking 127 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: forward to seeing some familiar faces on the field on Sunday. 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, he brought it up. They take the preseason seriously. Now, 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: did they know back when this record started or this 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: streak began. This is probably something just because when the 131 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: media brings it up, it gets heightened and then all 132 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Hey, let's let's try to keep this going. 133 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Let's make it twenty two, twenty three and down the road. Yeah. 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: If there's one franchise that just has their own blueprint 135 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: and they just go according to their own culture, it's 136 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: got to be Baltimore. They just they just have the 137 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: way of going about it and they're not going to 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: deviate from it. They have their own identity, they have 139 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: their own culture, their own DNA. For example, I was 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: talking to some folks on the sideline earlier today and 141 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, they're always known for massive offensive tackles, 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: and again you look at the depth chart, they just 143 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: have mass some dudes at left and right tackle. And 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good test for the Victor 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: demon Kgs, the my J Sanders, some of these young 146 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: edge rushers, a Dennis Gardeck. Okay, what do the Cardinals 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: exactly have in that room? Great start in that department 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: obviously at Cincinnati, but you're going against backups. Now you're 149 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna get a little more stern test against the Baltimore Ravens, 150 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: So you know where you're getting. When Baltimore is coming, 151 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna be physical and and to your point about evaluation, yeah, 152 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: I think Cliff Kingsbury should get a good read. Now 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the second half of the roster. You're 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: not going to see most of the regulars aren't going 155 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: to be playing, including Kyler Murray, who it appears and 156 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: will I'll be playing a single snap in the preseason now. 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: A year ago, you know, and our Jim Mohunter looked 158 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: this up to confirm. And remember he only played a 159 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: few snaps. He went one or four passing for two yards. 160 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Remember that? Stadh Yeah, I can't believe because we said 161 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: that about a million times last August and then what happened. Oh, 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: they debuted at Tennessee who would eventually be the number 163 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: one seed in the AFC, and Kyler had four touchdown 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: passes and had a passer rating to one twenty one. 165 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: So the whole consternation over one or four passing for 166 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: two yards was complete waste of time by all of us. 167 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: And Cliff Kingsbury knows that better than anyone. So to 168 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: my point about Baltimore knowing who they are and what 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: they want to be, Cliff Kingsbury think has a pretty 170 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: good handle on where he wants this team to be 171 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: and how to get there by the end of preseason. Well, 172 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: the preseason depth chart for this game too, there is 173 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: no difference between last week's preseason depth Try to believe 174 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: you called it the upside down depth chart, So those 175 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: that didn't play last week will not play this week. 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: The only one difference would be Trey McBride the rookie 177 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: tie end second round pick. He is going into play 178 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: according to the head coach. He's made some great catches 179 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: in practice this week, according to Cliff And now it's okay, 180 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: you've done it in practice. How well do you do 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: in a game preseason or not. But his first taste 182 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: of NFL action, and we know the kid is athletic, 183 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: and you could see how easily he catches the ball. 184 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't fight the ball at all. He is a 185 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: natural pass catcher that you rarely see a tight end 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: at that kind of size. So how is he going 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: to hold up at the point is he truly a 188 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: duel tight end? You know? Can he be that inline 189 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: guy Max Williams when healthy is the best on the 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals roster in that department, But can he be a 191 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: reliable cog? So when he's out there, it makes it 192 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: that much more difficult for a defense to discern whether 193 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are running it or throwing it. Make it 194 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: a tougher tell if Trey McBride can be that guy. 195 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: And you're not going to know unless he gets into 196 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: a full contact, full pad situation. Now he's looked pretty 197 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: stout and some of the tight end versus outside linebacker drills. 198 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: But once again, that's it's not a game situation. It's 199 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: not going against a different colored jerseys. So yeah, I 200 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: think all eyes are definitely gonna be on eighty five 201 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. And because if he can be that dual 202 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: tight end, look out you throwing Zach Ertz and Trey 203 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: McBride with this receiver room and Cardinals truly have a 204 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of weapon Now with that tight end room, does 205 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: that force the hand of the head coach because what 206 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: has been the main topic this week is having those 207 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: four wide receivers DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, AJ Green, and 208 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: Rondell More on the field for the first time, we've 209 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: heard from offensive players, we've heard from defensive players. Brown 210 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: on Wednesday said, Yeah, it was just crazy to see 211 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: that kind of talent on the field. Now it looked good, 212 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: but now you got to execute. And that was a 213 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: point Hollywood was making. It is like, yeah, we can 214 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: throw all this talent on the football field, but it 215 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: does nothing. It means nothing if we're not able to 216 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: utilize that and actually move the football up and down 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: the field against the defense. Yeah, and obviously you're not 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: going to see it the first six games because DeAndre 219 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Hopkins and the suspension. So it'll give Hollywood Brown and 220 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: even in aj Green, who feels much more comfortable in 221 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: this offense. In year two, it'll give Rondelle more the 222 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: ability to really define his new role. At least that's 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: what we think. We think he's going to be much 224 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: more of a downfield threat. He's gonna be able to 225 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: utilize a lot more out of his route tree. So 226 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: those guys will get some their footing and then boom, 227 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: you bring in DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, it's gonna be on 228 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game. No, he's not gonna have any 229 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: real official practice time. But if there is one player 230 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL who can play and perform without practice time, 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: it is definitely DeAndre Hopkins. And then you are good 232 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: to go with that Thursday night game. So, but it 233 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: was interesting to hear Hollywood Brown meet the media and 234 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: just would the Ravens come into town. Hear him talk 235 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: about that he loved his time with the Ravens his words, 236 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: but it was about his happiness and I think his role, 237 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: and then he went on and any elaborate. He said, 238 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: you know what, at times, I just didn't feel like 239 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: they necessarily needed me in that offense, which is a 240 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: heavy tight end offense, a lot of thirteen personnel run first, run, second, 241 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: tight end third. Really the receivers would be fourth in 242 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: the packing order, So you can understand why highly talented 243 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: speed receiver who operates real well in space like a 244 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown just probably felt it wasn't a great fit. 245 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: And he's seen what has happened here this offseason with 246 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: his fellow wide receivers getting contract extensions. He knows he's 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: next and needs to perform this season and then maybe 248 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: this time next year we're talking about an extension for 249 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. It's on his mind. He's not making it 250 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: a big deal, but it is something that he understands, like, look, 251 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: you know they were drafted ahead of me, so yeah, 252 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: they're in position. My turn perhaps is coming. It's just 253 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: a matter of what. And what's really intriguing is that 254 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: speed in space, because no offense in the NFL space 255 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: is out of defense like Cliff Kingsbury. Remember going very 256 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: going way back to year one of Cliff's offense. We're 257 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: liking it to the Golden State Warriors, spreading the floor 258 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: and getting that passing game going in the space, Singe, Well, 259 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: that's ideally theoretically what Cliff Kingsbury wants to do, especially 260 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: when they're in ten personnel and they have those four 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers out there, something that Sean McVay and the 262 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Rams have done very well obviously over the years, but 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: even when they Cam Turner, the quarterbacks coach and passing 264 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: game coordinator, was on the Big Red Rage last week 265 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: gree and he said, we made jor in eleven personnel, 266 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: we may jorn one back, one tight end, three receivers, So, 267 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: especially minus de Hop, that's gonna be Hollywood Brown, Rondale Moore, 268 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: in AJ Green, and then we'll see who else fulls 269 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: in there. So Hollywood Brown's gonna get a lot of reps. 270 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: And I asked him about just the state of his 271 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: chemistry because obviously hasn't been on the field a whole 272 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: bunch with Kyler. They both missed their share of time 273 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: a Cardinals camp. They're not going to get any preseason 274 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: game action together, and he didn't seem to matter much 275 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: to him at all. Greg Doorge pointed out how instantly 276 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: the other receivers could tell the chemistry that exists between 277 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: those two best friends. Kyler Murray Hollywood Brown. Not only 278 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: do they have that, they have their years together at Oklahoma, 279 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: and I do say years. Yes, Kyler had one year 280 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: as a starter in Heisman, but they spent a couple 281 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: of years together on the scout team and so they 282 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: were a combo there. So they really have three good 283 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: seasons under the belt. Qbing receiver, I'll being able to 284 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: look at each other, make that eye contact, know what 285 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: adjustment or route needs to be run or made. You know, 286 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: there's hand signals between them. So from all indications that 287 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: chemistry already exists. That's the plug and play aspect of 288 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: this trade that the Cardinals hope nets big rewards right 289 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: out of the gate Week one against Kansas City. Because 290 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: if you would add a rookie receiver in here, highly 291 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: talented or around one, not only is he learning the NFL, 292 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: he's learning the offense, he's learning the quarterback. That sort 293 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: of learning curve does not exist between Kyler and Hollywood 294 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 1: Brown quoting Hollywood on Wednesday with respects to his relationship 295 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: with Kyler, I know him, he knows me, and it's 296 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: basically that simple. Now, that's the hope that we all 297 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: anticipate seeing on Week one and of course you're throwing 298 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: d hop not until week seven. But yeah, there is 299 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: a lot of excitement as far as that wide receiver 300 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and the offense and what potential it could happen this year. Hey, 301 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the night before the game in Cincinnati, where may or 302 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: may not have been at a local steakhouse downtown Cincinnati 303 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: and may or may not have seen the quarterback and 304 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: receiver out to dinner together. So yeah, they spend a 305 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of time together. They are legit really close friends. 306 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: By the way, since you had such, you know, a 307 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: good time in Cincinnati, I can say this very clearly 308 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: here that I am glad that Sunday's game is nationally 309 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: televised because your voice will be back on the pregame 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: for those two hours on the pregame huddle. Yes, four 311 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: and a half hours is one thing, but I could 312 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: use a little assistance. So I'm glad that preseason game 313 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: number two there's some national television, So passion Wolf will 314 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: be and the booth, you'll be on the sideline, and 315 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: more importantly, you'll be part of that pregame show. Well, 316 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: you did a heck of a job. In surprise, you 317 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: have any voice left to be honest with you after, 318 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, carrying Rob Pederson and Kyle Van Eenbosch, those 319 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: two extra large bodies for four plus hours in the 320 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: pregame show. So at least somebody was what had put 321 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: in a real full shift on a preseason game. It 322 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: was definitely Craig Grie Lou. And yes, the sideline is 323 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna be awful crowded. I'm gonna get her. I'm gonna 324 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: get a reminder of what it looks like when ninety 325 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: plus players are on an NFL roster. There's not a 326 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of room to roam on a sideline. Cardinals and 327 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Ravens kickoff at five o'clock on Sunday one thirty is 328 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the pregame right here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 329 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: And on that notes, we will put a lid on 330 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Unday, proud 331 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to 332 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: our executive producer Joe Almandro for Paul CALVISI I'm Craig 333 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on 334 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.