1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Damn. I mean this is gonna go viral too, Yep, 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Jannis k d steph Indeed, I'm gonna take heat for 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: this last pick all my life and running all my 4 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: life sacrifice hustle back Prison wanna slice? Got the browner 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: dice to swad all my life? I've been grinding all 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: my life, all my life? Then running all my life 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: and up sacrifice hustle backer Brison, Want a slice? Got 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the brolla dice to swath all my life? I've been 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: running in all my life. Hello, welcome to another addition 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: of the Club Sha Shay. I am your whole Shannon Sharp. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm also the propriud of Club Sha Shake. And the 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: is a fourteen year NBA vet. He's an NBA champion 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: and he might be the last of a dying breed, 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the last of the back had boys of the NBA. 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Matt Barnes and be what's up? Run It's going to 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: be here, man, Thanks for coming on. How you being? 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: I've been good, busy man, busy summer you know outside 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: of work, uh, you know, coaching my kids, you team, 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: you know, traveling around the country with the kids. But 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: it was a blessing but it was fun. How how 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: did the boys do? So? We finished third nationally, so 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: I think we could have been one. We hit some 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: injuries and had one one of our center quit literally 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: two days before we hit Nationals. But I mean when 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: everything said, as a team, we did really well. Like 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: I said, we finished third, ranked number three in the 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: country for thirteen. You are not too bad. Congratulations on that, bru. 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Look I know on your your podcast up all the 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: smoke you guys smoke here at club we take a 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: drink of the Portier. Congratulations on what you and Stas 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: are doing. Appreciate that. Appreciate that said I said, I 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: smell this is smell like his money right here. Uh, 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: smell like money. Congratulations. Put the success on this as well. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Brun. Thank The hot button issue was I 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: made Dooka being suspended for all the entire season, and 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: initially when the news broke, You're like, you were very 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: much in support of I may the question would I 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: have for you? Were you support of how the Celtics, 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: like damn they suspend a man for the whole year, 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: or how they handled the situation in suspending it. I 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: think it started before that was we got the Robbert 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Sarver information, right, and I've been saying he's a known 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: racist since I left there in twenty ten. So we 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: had that information for a couple of days, and then 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: following the Emay's situation loosely, and then once they dropped 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a suspension, that's Robb just like because of course when 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: he reported, they say he's gonna be suspended, you know, 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: for the entire season, but he's not gonna be fired. 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, what is he gonna be suspended for? 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, the information starts to 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: seep out he had a consensual relationship with a staffer, right, 53 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: And so that was basically all the information everybody had. 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: But obviously league you received some information yeah that the media, 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: the public, the broad media, the public doesn't have. Yeah. 56 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: So I mean with that, so again, initially, like you said, 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I went out there in defense from a standpoint of, 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, being in the league as long as I've 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: been in and being in corporations now, stuff like that 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: happens a lot, you know, So for me to hear 61 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: he was suspended the same amount of time as someone 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: who has sexually harassed and thrown racial slurs around an organization. 63 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: It didn't make sense to me. You know, the way 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: Boston handle it could have could have been handled better. 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: The way I came about it. Maybe I could have 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: handled it better, you know what I mean. But so 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: when I made the post in his defense, as soon 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: as I made the post on I tell you, maybe 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: two minutes later, I got a phone call and this 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: person that's telling me what happened, and I'm like, oh, okay, 71 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: well maybe I should take down my post. So I 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: did it. But next morning I woke up and it's 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: still it hit the blog. So instead of being you know, 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I feel like so often in this space where if 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: you're wrong you just let it slide or or the 76 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: apology is really small. But I mean, and so I 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: came out and publicly said, hey, you know, I misspoke 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: before having all the information. I'm apologized. It's a lot 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: deeper than we know, and you know, I wish everybody 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the best. And you know, some people respected the fact 81 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: that I came out and said that, and other people 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: are like, oh man, you're hating on this, dude, you're 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: doing this, or if you're in the media, tell us 84 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: what you heard. And I'm not someone that takes pride 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: and dumping on our people, right, you know what I mean. 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: I think there's such a doubless sword and such a 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: double standard for us to even climb in the ranks. 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: We climbed that. You know. When I found out something 89 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: the news, I'm just like, man, you know, if this 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: comes out, it's going to be ugly, but I'm not 91 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: going to be the one to have it come out, right, 92 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: you know. So people started running with both sides of that. 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: So it has been a whirldwin man, and you know, 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: hopefully everyone can, you know, find some solace and some 95 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: peace in it and work itself out. I think a 96 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of it had to do, especially coming from us, 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: is that who he's dating, and you're like, man, how 98 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: he gonna do her like that? And it's it's deeper 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: than that, man, because you know, look, being a professional athlete, 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: we I think we're invincible, and then we've all done 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: some things that we threw caution to the wind. It 102 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a fact that we making millions. It wasn't a 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: fact that it just came out. It's gonna be really 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: bad for us, and that moment at that time, that 105 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: was the most important thing. Damn the millions, Damn who 106 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: finds out about it? No, I completely agree. And the 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: one thing I definitely didn't touch on was the family 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: dynamic because I've done too many, too many things to 109 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: really even have a voice in that space. You know, 110 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the last one that's gonna tell anyone on 111 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: relationship advice or this isn't that because you know how 112 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: public and messy, you know, my divorce was so again, 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: you know the fact that she is a you know, 114 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: an icon in the space as far as acting, and 115 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, has such an amazing reputation. That was something 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: that everyone else was harping on. But that's what I 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: didn't touch because I had already messed up in that space, right, 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I wasn't going to 119 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: be the one to criticize or you shouldn't have did this, 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: or you shouldn't have did that. That wasn't me. Like 121 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: I said, I came to his defense initially because I thought, 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: from what the information we had, that's a common thing 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: that happens not only in the NBA but across the board. Right. 124 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that maybe if they 125 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: had said that, maybe they could have dressed it like 126 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: I may it's gonna take a year off to deal 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: with some personal issues, and then that would have gave 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: him some gave him some an opportunity to cover. But 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: when they leave it so broad and everybody started to speculate, 130 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and then a couple of like a day later, it 131 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: comes out, well, there's no covering for that. There ain't 132 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: no heat taking time off. We're suspending him because the policy. 133 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: And I understand both sides and understand your point what 134 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: you're saying that this happens more time, more often than not. 135 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: But I understand the corporation side of this because when 136 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: this thing hit the fan, the corporation is the one 137 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: that's that potentially could be out of millions and millions, 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: so they try to cover it like bruh, let's just 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: the twenty million people that five million people in Boston, 140 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: Go find you one of them. Leave what's here? But 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: it's a lot. Yeah, this person all the time, they 142 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: see these people all the time. You hey, how you doing? 143 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: You know what's going on? You because you know, you 144 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: develop a relationship with these people. But my whole thing 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: is is uncan you know, and you've been in professional 146 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: sports and you're in the corporate business world now, Like 147 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: this is not the first signed and I don't recall 148 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: anyone else ever having to have it put on front 149 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: street to begin with, right, you know what I mean? 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: Like normally like internal businesses, internal business where they want 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: to suspend them for a personal leave or personal reasons, 152 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: that's fine. But I think again, the way it came 153 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: out that information, I'm just like, damn, Like I said, 154 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: I didn't been in leave for a long time and 155 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen some stuff. And although people came it 156 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: may have been found out, it was never brought to 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the public, right, you know what I mean? So I 158 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: definitely think it was a smear campaign, and that's why 159 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: initially I had jumped to his defense. You mentioned your 160 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: public situation, your situation where you know you was going 161 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: through a divorce in situation, What did you learn from that? 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: What when you look back on it, what do you 163 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: wish you could have handled differently? I just think that 164 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: that you know, I had to come to terms with 165 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: a long time ago. As obviously, you know, being a 166 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: public figure, there's not much privacy to our lives to 167 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: begin with. A long time ago. But then the fact 168 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: that we jumped on a reality show as well, we 169 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: completely gave all of our privacy and private moments away, 170 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's what I really learned, 171 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: was obviously being an athlete. And I'm not even I 172 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: was a role player. I have no qualms about who 173 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I was. I know exactly who I was, but I 174 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: was always on big teams and play with big guys. 175 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: But then, like I said, when I opened the door 176 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: to my family situation via reality TV, I knew there 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: was no such thing as as as privacy anymore. And 178 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: that carried on through my relationship with my ex wife, 179 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: who we've been separated now damn youel seven years or 180 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, divorced from a seven years too. You know 181 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: my current situation. So it's just, you know, the ability 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: to think back and wish that, you know, we could 183 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: have kept some things private. But you know, you learn 184 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: you wish you hadn't done that show. Oh absolutely not. 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: And and and I you know, like I said, I'm 186 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: not speaking from my ex, but I'm pretty sure she 187 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: wished she didn't. You know, she didn't jump in the 188 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: in the show either. But again, you live and you learn, 189 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: you're young, you have an opportunity. You want to, you know, 190 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: give her an opportunity to kind of you know, build 191 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: out her her herself, what she was doing outside of 192 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, our family stuff. And because when you look 193 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: at it, what you say, well, there's some good, but 194 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: it seems to me more bad good. Now we get 195 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: the Kardashians and we see how they made it, we 196 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: get parents, Hilton and how she took off, but more 197 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: time than not, break up, divorce. It's really too I mean, 198 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: you know the two people you mentioned, you know they're 199 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: not black, you know, I mean and and And I 200 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: say that with all respect because you know, when it 201 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: comes to black reality TV, it's it's such a an 202 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: untrue tale of who we are and we're about. You 203 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean when you say basketball wives and 204 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and and you know wives or girlfriends or whatever situation 205 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: may be. People don't act like that in the day 206 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: day They and we realized early on that they don't 207 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: want to see a happy family with kids and they 208 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: want out and forth. That sales, the drama sales. So 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, just understanding again, no, what we got into 210 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: before we got into it, and we didn't and we 211 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: learned from it, but now we kind of sit back 212 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and watch again. That was two thousand eleven. Well, you 213 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, and and and the reality world 214 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: is is you know, they say stuff comes and waves 215 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: and it's gonna fade. The reality TV has been here 216 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: to stay. But every time I you know, I jump. 217 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: And this is not all, but I say, a majority 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: of the time you see black reality television, it's just 219 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: such a negative portrayal of who we are. It's just 220 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: it's it's disheartening the situation where you and a former 221 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: teammate of yours get into it. Do you wish you 222 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: to have that situation differently? No, No, I wish I 223 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: just wish that you I mean, I would hope it 224 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: for a little pausitan the real I mean, I mean, 225 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: to keep it real. I mean, people die for shit 226 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: like that, you know. And the fact that I was 227 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: an athlete that they didn't even come to my mind. 228 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about. You know, I just felt like 229 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: it was the ultimate disrespect And it wasn't so much that. Yeah, 230 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, I divorced my girl, and and and and 231 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, we both decided to actually, you know, even 232 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: though I'm the one the divorce. We were both done. 233 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: It was a mutual thing. I just decided to file first, 234 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: so we both go our separate ways. So you just 235 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: think if and to even give him a little bit, 236 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, you can't help for you fall in love with. 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: I just wish from a standpoint knowing that there was 238 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: kids involved, right, Okay, I don't really like the way 239 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: you move on X wife. I'm not really tripping off that, 240 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: but the fact that you're gonna be around my kids 241 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: and don't tell me is where I had So I say, 242 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: look at Matt, you know, hey, you and not we divorced. 243 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: You know, we got the kids. But I'm I'm I'm 244 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: digging on someone else and you know who it is. 245 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: So she comes to you and she tells, you know, 246 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: he was an ex teammate of yours. I think they're 247 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: on the back of your neck gonna stand up. You go, like, 248 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: who who did both? Are? I mean? And I would 249 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: say that, but at the standpoint, you know, again, after 250 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: we were both you know, we were out of love, 251 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, so I would have respected that. I may 252 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: not have liked it, but I can't do if you're 253 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a woman or be a man and come 254 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: tell me the situation. Like, I can't do nothing but 255 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: respect it. Again, you may not agree, you may not 256 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: like it, but again I'm no longer in charge of 257 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: I never was really in charge. But you know her, 258 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: she's are grown out woman. So what she decides to 259 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: move and do, it's fine. But again, I think the 260 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: fact that there were kids involved is where it really 261 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: bothered me that uh you know that that it wasn't 262 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: brought to me first right back to the IM it 263 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: says okay, consensual. Really they were involved in a consensual relationship, 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: but at a later dating time it was unwanted advances. 265 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: So that I think that's what through a lot of 266 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: people out there is that hold on how if we're 267 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: involved in a consensual relationship, I'm saying something that's inappropriate. Uh, 268 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean you think like okay, so somebody want to 269 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: end it and it kept going and then it wanted 270 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: to go. I mean it's like a or if someone 271 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: trying to say face after a fact, right right, you 272 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So again this is this may 273 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: be one of those things, like I said, if details 274 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: come out and you know it's a crazy situation, you 275 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, but until we really get or 276 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: or someone breaks that news, I mean, it's gonna really 277 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of speculation. You know. That's what 278 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: foods involved, What's going on? What happened? Who happened? Like, 279 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot of different things, you know. I mean, 280 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: so the person I talked to was very close to 281 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the situation, and I got the information I got. But again, 282 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not one that wants to break 283 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: negative news like that. Like I said, my whole purpose 284 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: from the beginning was to come in his defense, Right, dude, 285 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: I think you and I both agree on this. I 286 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: think they're getting this thing up. I don't see how 287 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: he gets that job back. It gona be to man, 288 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough. And I know what they 289 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: were hoping. They were hoping that normally, in a situation 290 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: like this, the guy says, you know, I'm resigning, I'm 291 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: stepping down, and then they can just wipe their hands 292 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: of it. But he didn't do that, but to say that, Okay, 293 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna be away for a year and they're going 294 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: to reevaluate the situation. What is there to re evaluate 295 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: the situation? Happened? He's away It's not like he can 296 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: do something that can convince you this is not going 297 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: to happen again. All he can do is give you 298 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: his word. Yeah, all you could do. But but when 299 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I look at it now, I kind of look at 300 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: it from a different standpoint of what a job he 301 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: did as a coach. Believable, you know what I mean. 302 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, when when we mess up, 303 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: it's not an individual mess up, it's a blanket mess up, right, 304 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: you know what what I mean, because black head coaches all 305 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: over there and that's how it happens, you know what 306 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: I means. So to me, it's an unfortunate situation one 307 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: because he was groomed under, you know, arguably one of 308 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time, great Pakovich. You know, 309 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: he paid his dues. And that team started off bad 310 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: last year where they turned the corner in January and 311 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: then they went on a run that was amazing and 312 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: made the finals. So I'm thinking, like, damn, they got 313 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: a young black coach, young talent. Boston is here for that. 314 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're going to be a team, you know, 315 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: to wrecking with for a while. So now you look 316 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: at it, you know, five months later where you know 317 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: the coach is no longer in place, Who's you know, 318 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: who's going to be the leader of this team? This 319 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: is a young, talented team. Like what happens to the 320 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: team because, like I said, there's so much you know, 321 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: there's there's there's families that you know at Limbo now, 322 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: but the Celtics themselves are at Limbo because again, this 323 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: is one of the best teams in the league with 324 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: one of the best young leaders in the gaming right 325 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: in Coach Udoka. And now you sit back and think, 326 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: like the domino effect of the action that's going to 327 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: leave a lot of people kind of scrambling, like what's happening? 328 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, when we're in our spaces as farmer athletes, 329 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: you do a lot of stuff on ESPN. You have 330 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: your own podcasts. I do stuff here and if it's 331 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: one with Skip, I have my own podcast. We get 332 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: people are always asking us to comment on certain situations, 333 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: and Shack was asking. Shack says, well, I'm not going 334 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: to comment for the simple fact I've been a serial cheater. 335 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: But I think those things are two different things. I 336 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: can see and Shack is that he has corporations. I mean, 337 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Shack is a tremendous businessman. But I think it's different 338 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: than you being a serial cheater and you being in 339 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: a position of authority and doing something outside of the 340 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: scope of what the organization says. Like you own a 341 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: corporation and you said, well, there's no fratnizing, there's no 342 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: relationship going on with someone subordinate or someone within that corporation. 343 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: That's one thing. I mean, obviously we've all done things. 344 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, let's not sit here and say we were perfect. 345 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: But I don't look at it like Shan and you've 346 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: probably cheated on somebody as that. I can't comment on 347 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: that because I think cheating when I'm just a twenty three, 348 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: twenty five year old man and I'm not in a 349 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: position of authority, it's different than kind of what I 350 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: think is going through. Well. I mean, like you said, 351 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: I think you hit it on the head. We're always 352 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: asked to comment yes on everything, whether it's sports related 353 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: or not, and this happened to be sports related. So again, 354 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, again, I jumped out on a limb in 355 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: defense because although cheating is not right, I'm not judging 356 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: that far from perfect, you know what I mean. But 357 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't think the consequence off the 358 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: information we had before matched that, because again, if you 359 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: look at the Phoenix situation, this man is a serial 360 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: racist and has done all kinds of things, and they 361 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: got the same type of suspension. So that's it wasn't 362 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I think if the Robert Sarvice ship hadn't broke a 363 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: few days before, I would have never commented on it. 364 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: My whole thing was, how are these two things related. 365 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: There's no way these are the same type of issues. 366 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Was an isolated incident and the other you had eighteen 367 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: year body of work and two hundred people coming in, 368 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, coming to talk about that man. So, 369 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: like I said, it was, my whole situation was, you know, 370 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: to to try to you know, let you know we're 371 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: supporting you, because I know it's a bigger picture here, 372 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, it's an unfortunate situation, but 373 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, a great young black coach in the NBA 374 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: is is is you know, we got to take care 375 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: of those type of situations. And when something like that happens, 376 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: it's not just him, it's us, you know. So that's 377 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of the way I was looking at it. You 378 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: spoke that that you played in Phoenix, so you have 379 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: very first hand knowledge of the type of person that 380 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Robert Sarver is not was is, and so you felt 381 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: very strongly that when you spoke out against him, you 382 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: had firsthand, you had intimate knowledge of the type of 383 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: person that you were dealing with. That they that the 384 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: report had come out and what it had laid out. 385 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: You're like, yep, yep, yep, yep, Yeah, I mean it 386 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: was it was. I never ran into a racial situation 387 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: with him, per se, like face to face, because it 388 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't ended well for him. But you know, former 389 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: teammate Earl Watson, who was the head coach there, you know, 390 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: told me what happened with him, and it was eye opening. 391 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: I had seen him interact with people, and as soon 392 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: as people players walk away, i'd hear him say a 393 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: snide remark, but just his arrogance and the way he 394 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: carried himself, that he was the smartest and the richest 395 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: and the best person in the room kind of always 396 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. And then a few years 397 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: after that, I went back to Phoenix and there was 398 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: a situation where we were playing them, and I was 399 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: I was someone in my career who didn't mind talking 400 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: to fans, whether we're talking shit or we're just talking 401 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: having a good time. So I think that makes the 402 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: experience better for our fans. So I'm talking to this 403 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: thirteen year old kid and his dad and we're back 404 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: and forth, laughing, and there's a free through being shot, 405 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: and I hear someone say, don't talk to my fucking fans, 406 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: like just like that, and I'm just like, huh, no way, 407 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: he's talking to me. And I turned around and it's 408 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: him in the corner and sitting with his wife, and 409 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: I said, I'll come whether snicked the shit at you 410 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: right in front of your wife, and then ran back 411 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: down the court because the free throw was shot. He 412 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: told on me. I end up getting fined for twenty 413 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars for inappropriate language to I don't know 414 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: if they said the crowd or to him, but I'm thinking, like, 415 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: this guy is an owner, and he was the one 416 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: that said don't talk to my fucking fan. I'm not 417 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: just gonna say something to him. I don't even like 418 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: the guy, so I wasn't gonna say nothing to him. 419 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: But the fact that he came at me first and 420 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: I responded, how do I get find twenty five thousand 421 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: for it, you know, so that was kind of my 422 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: last straw. I really didn't like him, but it wasn't 423 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: something I was going to talk about at the time 424 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: because I really didn't care. But the fact that, you know, 425 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: he costs me money, I'm this man like, fuck this guy. 426 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: I think it was Earl Watson that said the story 427 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: that about how he was asking, how can Draymond say 428 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the N word and he can't say it? And he 429 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: kept asking, well, what Draymond says it? Why can't I 430 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: see it? And MY question always is why is it 431 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: the way people in a certain group talked to each 432 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: other that people outside of that group. I want to 433 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: know why I hear women call each other b work. 434 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: I never asked why can't I say that? I hear 435 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: people in the LBGT community say things to each other, 436 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: and I've never asked, why can I say that? Because 437 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: I know why. I'm not a member of that community. 438 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: We talk to each other a certain way. We call 439 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: in the black community. We'll call each other A But 440 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: I can let somebody else say that, No, it's it's 441 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things, like you said, you've 442 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: got to be along. It's it's almost the secret society 443 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: if you know, you know, you know what I mean, 444 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: And I think you made a perfect example with the 445 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: other community is just like we know why we can't 446 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 1: say that, but it's not right publicly. But again, if 447 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: you're amongst your people, your fans, your family, you know, 448 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: people you mess with and the world goes back and forth. 449 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: To me, there's a different energy behind it when we 450 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: say it to each other than when someone else is 451 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: trying to implement it or say it. Damn you, you 452 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: seem to be at the wrong place at the wrong 453 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: time or the right place at the right right wrong 454 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: time because the Donald Sterling situation. You're on that team 455 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: and what trade. So when you hear that, now, did 456 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: you know that he was the way he was? So 457 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: y'all heard about it obviously, you know what I mean? Again, 458 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, and you know because you play, we don't 459 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: play for the owners, right, you know, rarely do you 460 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: even interact unless you're a superstar. So I wasn't really 461 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: interacting with any of the owners. I played for it, 462 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: you know what it means. So when that hit rewind 463 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: a little bit. When I was in high school, I 464 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: senior in high school, you know, three months away from 465 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: going to UCLA. One white kid kept messing with my sister, 466 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: who was a sophomore at the time, calling her nigga, this, 467 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: nigger that, and I told her, you don't go tell 468 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: the principle, and she did and nothing happened. So one 469 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: particular day, this kid's calls her nigger again and spits 470 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: on her, and she just lost her mind, starts crying, 471 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: and her and her friends come find me. Kid happens 472 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: to walk by, and I do what a big brother's 473 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: supposed to do, you know, I mean I had, so 474 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: I get them get suspend. We go in there and 475 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: tell him. You know, my sister's complaining a handful of times, 476 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: you guys didn't do nothing. He spit in her hair, 477 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: called her a nigger again, and you did do nothing. 478 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: So I took it into my own hands where you 479 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: can't do that. And there's no proof he did that. 480 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: This is and now I'm just like, so you think 481 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: my sister's crying, that's gonna lie about it. So fast forward, 482 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: I guess to spend it for a week. The KKK 483 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: comes and vandalized my school, burns down a classroom, swastika's 484 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Die Nigger hung a mannequin from the football or from 485 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: a tree with my jersey on it. Die Nigger put 486 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: a green light on me, said that they were trying 487 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: to kill me. Had to move to a different part 488 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: of town in Sacramento. So I say all that to say, 489 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: when I heard the Donald Sterling stuff, I'm just like, yeah, 490 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: he's probably racist, but this is not a big deal 491 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: because he's not the only person that thinks like this. 492 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: He's just the only one dumb enough to get caught, right, 493 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like, I've seen so 494 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: much real racism and been in the midst of you know, 495 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: literally burning down buildings and people trying to kill me 496 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: to think that what he said was wrong. But I'm 497 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: not gonna lose no sleepover again because he's not the 498 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: only one that think. There's a lot of people, not 499 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: just in sports, but are across the board that are 500 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: in positions of power who look at black and brown 501 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: people is less, you know. So when we heard that, 502 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: obviously it was it was a huge situation, and and 503 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: all of our team, you know, all my teammates took 504 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: it a different way. But I think in the midst 505 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: of what was going on. We felt like we had 506 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: a good team. You know, we had won the Pacific Division. 507 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, there was that year or the year before, 508 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: we felt like we had a championship contender and we 509 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: wanted to play basketball. But this is the on the 510 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: urge of social media where athletes are starting to kind 511 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: of speak about more than sports, and all this other 512 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: stuff starts going on. So we're Uncle Tom's and you're 513 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: playing for a racist dude. You're doing this because the 514 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: world was trying to tell us what to do and 515 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: what not to do. So it was just it was 516 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: a tough situation. I think that cloud hanging over us 517 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: ultimately didn't make us lose, but kind of helped just 518 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: the energy, you know, of our team to end up 519 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: losing in the next round. How did you guys come 520 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: to the conclusion that you were all gonna throw your 521 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: one up top in the center? It was my idea 522 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: because again we were talking about not playing and looking back, guys, 523 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: I hear guys left and right saying, you know, we 524 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: shouldn't have played, but we didn't know what the you know, 525 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: how long do we not play? Right? Is it one game? 526 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: What happens that automatic laws head. It was so new. 527 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: You know, how do we do we not play until 528 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: he's fired? Is he gonna get fired? So there was 529 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: so much unknown again, and we felt like we had 530 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: a good enough team to win it that we decided 531 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: to play. So we wanted to do something in solidarity 532 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: that let people know, like we're not okay with it, 533 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: but again, we're not playing for this guy, Like we 534 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: don't care about Donald Sterling. We care about who's in 535 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: this locker room in our family. So you know, we 536 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: tried to come up with a bunch of different ideas 537 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: on just like, look, the most important thing right now 538 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: if we're gonna play, is we gotta beat this young 539 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: hungry Warriors team because if people remember we beat them 540 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: in Game seven, but the next year is they went 541 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: on their dynasty runs. So we knew we had a young, 542 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: hungry team that we had to take care of it 543 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: and it needed all of our attention. So if we're 544 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: gonna do something, let's do something that's get it done 545 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: early on and then try to focus on the game. 546 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: So you know, I came up with to throw the 547 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: ship in the middle of DS, try to go focus, 548 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: and I think we got beat by like thirty of 549 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: that game. So it was a mess. But we're actually 550 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: making so I just brought was brought on as a 551 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: consultant for Strilling Affairs. So FX is actually making a 552 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: six part series about that show that supposed to drop 553 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: you the later this year or early next year about Wow, 554 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Well congress on bare. John wall the guy, unbelievable talent, 555 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: an All Star tears as Achi lead. Then I think 556 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: he retears it. He dealt with the death of his 557 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: mom and he's talking about you know, at one point 558 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: in time, basketball was an afterthought because of what he 559 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: was going through, and he contemplated suicide. And we heard 560 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Paul George speaking about this a couple of years ago 561 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: about in the bubbling what he was going through and Matt, 562 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: you old Scott, I'm a lot older than you, with 563 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you old school, and we like got athletes are supposed 564 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: to be invincible. We don't. We can't show weakness now 565 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: because if you weak, get your weak you know what 566 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: up out of here. But to hear guys that have 567 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: reached the top and to hear says man, I was 568 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: at my breaking point, John Waller specific. I don't know 569 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: what Paul George, but he just said he was dealing 570 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: with some things. But to hear John Walls so, man, 571 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I was at I was at my breaking point many 572 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: I just had to reach out and say, man, hey, 573 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: I need some help over here to deal with this well. 574 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean take away the athlete first, our 575 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: community in general. It's a sign of weakness. We don't 576 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: talk about it as as a man. It's get your 577 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: weak ass up, or you're gonna be all right, or 578 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: if it's crazy, or get your crazy ass out of 579 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: here exactly. Mental was never a reason for anything for us, 580 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: you know. So to me, I think it's refreshing that 581 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: people can speak on this and they're taking serious. But 582 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: at the same time you still see a lot of 583 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: people with that kind of that old mentide like, man, 584 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: you make all this money with the fuck you talking about, 585 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: you've got no real issues. But again, that mental thing 586 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: is heavy, right. I mean, I never went to the 587 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: bubble and never had a significant injury, you know, the 588 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: John wall have. But you know, when people think, you know, 589 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: money fixes everything. Money fixes a lot of things, but 590 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: not everything, you know what I mean. And sometimes you 591 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: could be alone in a room full of people that's 592 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: the ownault. So you know, again, I commend these guys 593 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: to have the bravery to say it, because it's not 594 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: as many people who are going to receive it warmly 595 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: and understand to be Yeah, a lot of people are 596 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna be like, man, look at these weak as you 597 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is crazy. So I mean 598 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: I commend them. And also, Kevin loved Marda Rose and 599 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: a lot of guys have come out and spoke on 600 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: him because I think it's important. Man. Ben Simmons, right, 601 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: another perfect example of just just mentally is a lot, 602 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: you know. And again I've been through so much growing 603 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: up that you know, I think I was, you know, 604 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: made for the critiques and the disrespect and all that stuff, 605 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: but at sometime sometimes it really gets to you. So 606 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: again I commend those guys, and I commend any with 607 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: anybody who's brave enough to come out and talk about 608 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: something like that. You mentioned Ben Simmons and what he 609 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: was going through. Here's a guy that's immensely talented, sixteen, 610 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: six eleven, can handle the ball. He was Rookie of 611 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the Year, he's been an All Defensive NBA player twice, 612 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: He's been a three time All Star. But for whatever reason, 613 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: he does. He's I'm not saying he can't shoot Matt, 614 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that's afraid to shoot. You see, 615 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: black people, we don't. You know, it's not that we 616 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: can't swim. We're afraid of the water. Well, if you're 617 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: afraid of the water, I can't teach how to swim 618 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: because I can't teach out to swim. If you don't 619 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: want to get in the water, gonna take a chance, right, 620 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Ben is afraid to shoot because you watch him at 621 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: warm ups. He got a nice stroke for him. I've 622 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: seen him play open gyms where he's coming off picking 623 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: rolls and pulling up, coming down to transition, hitting full 624 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: up threes, and I'm just like, so to me, it 625 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: makes me like it's one mental with him. Yes, And 626 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: I think he has to understand that it's okay to miss. 627 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Everybody step missus, MJ missus, Kobe, missus. You know, so 628 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: it's okay to miss. So I think once he gets 629 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: over that mental hurdle, he's gonna be fine. But like 630 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: you said, all the other attribute he has to the 631 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: game makes him one of the best players in the world. 632 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: So I think if he can get out of his 633 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: own head and We just talked about this earlier on 634 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: the ESPN today, where Steven Nash came out and said, 635 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't need Ben to shoot. To me, that's the 636 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: wronger person. I just don't think Steve, Steve, Steve Nash 637 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: wants any smoke right now, considering all the other ship 638 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: you don't want no smoke. So Steve, he's gonna take 639 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: the lat the path of resistance. But to me, it's 640 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: been keeping a tight circle and his teammates continuing to 641 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: hype him up. Like I said, if I was on 642 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Ben's team, I would be in his ear constantly, just about, bro, 643 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: we got you. You know, whatever you need, we got, 644 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: we believe in you, we love you. One of the 645 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: best Black Sometimes people just need that positive reinforcement by 646 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: by the people around him. And he felt like, you know, 647 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: and in Philly he didn't get that, you know, And 648 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: b came out and said something, and but I said, 649 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: at that time, man, I think you might have came 650 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: with it. Y'all said it's over. I said, you can't 651 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: have the best players say what you said. And they 652 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: asked Doc after the game, and Doc might have been 653 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: men mean anything, but you cannot say I don't know 654 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: if I could win a championship with him my starting 655 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: point guard. If it's over, and it was over, I 656 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: think I did come over when that happened. And like 657 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: I said, when you get your your road dog, the 658 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: best player on the team with you and your head 659 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: coach saying that, I knew that situation was over. Oh 660 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: he's weak, he's this, he's at But at the same time, 661 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: like I get it, man, this generation is different, first 662 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: and foremost. But if you know, if you got your 663 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: coach and and and the guy's supposed to be your 664 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: right hand man, you know, saying things, and I don't 665 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: think they meant it in a disrespectful way. I just 666 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: think that they were hurt and frustrating, caught up in 667 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: the moment, you know. But but what came out came out. Yeah, 668 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: and because the way it beats, like, well, when did 669 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: you think you lost from the midium of the game, Well, 670 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: we had an opportunity for dump and we passed it 671 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: up and we make one free throw, right, Bro, you 672 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: went to that specific and say that was the reason, 673 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: not that that you had a three one that was 674 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. So yeah, it's and again, 675 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, Shannon. It's tough because I 676 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: commend anyone who's always cool, calm and elegant under pressure 677 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: because winning losing all that that, we were full of 678 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: so much emotion, you know what I mean, and to 679 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: have to take a deep breath and calm down and 680 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: articularly get across your point, you know, even though there 681 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: may be some still have some emotions the way, it's 682 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: hard to do. And like I said, I don't think 683 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Joel or those guys meant to disrespect him at the time, 684 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: but they were caught in the moment and they took 685 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: that one play when you know, it's not one play 686 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: that ever loses you a game, serious, it's a whole 687 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: combination of things. And it came out publicly and then 688 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: everyone started jumping and taking sides, and I knew right then, 689 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: just like you do, that ship was over. Yeah, because 690 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I mean, there have been time like this. Dude, 691 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: he called to us a game, he played terrible, that's 692 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: what happened, but you just like, you know, we win 693 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: on the team. Hey, you wouldn't playing a tea ball today. Bro. 694 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: You look at John Wall going to the Clippers and 695 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: he says he's in a better headspace, headspace. Now he 696 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: hadn't played. It's been so long since John we've seen 697 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: John Waller on the court, so I don't really know. 698 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: I know what he was before he got injured. I 699 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: don't know what he will be. Kawhi's been away for 700 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: a year, Paul George came back. They have the makings 701 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: of something good because I love Tyler. Tyler get them 702 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: great coach man, Tyler getting them to play hard all 703 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: the time. But they're gonna be in different roles now. 704 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: All those guys that were getting no free shots and 705 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Reggie Jack just coming out and getting fifteen twenty shots 706 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: at night, and Marks and all these guys. Now Kawhi 707 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: gotta get his eighteen shots PG, gotta get his sixteen shot. 708 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: John Walla's gonna be coming up the picket roll getting 709 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: this eleven twelve shots. So now you're in a different role. 710 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: One plus one plus one doesn't always equal three, and 711 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: then you throw plus two, you might not necessarily get five. 712 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: If Tyler wasn't a coach, I would be worried about that. 713 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: But Tyler having him as a coach and Noman as 714 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: a person, he doesn't hold his tongue for nobody so 715 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna let everyone know who has an issue with 716 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: Kawahi getting his eighteen shots, PG getting his eighteen shots 717 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: and John getting other shots. I don't give a fuck 718 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: what you think. This is how it's going to go. 719 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: And I want to commend him because if you think 720 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: about it, the way he's been able to keep that 721 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: team afloat without their stars, you know. I mean, I 722 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: think they said something today since they've been together, that 723 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: they've only played one hundred and fifty games together PG 724 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: and Kawhi out of you know, almost three hundred games. 725 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: He's kept that. He's kept that team respectable and kept 726 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: them afloat and made role players up their games and 727 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: guys from the bottom of the bench get quality minutes. 728 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: So now to me, when you reinsert two of the 729 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: best two way players in the game, and then to 730 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: me John Wall, who was one of the most explosive 731 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: point guards I've seen in the game. And although he's 732 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: been removed the one season he did play in Houston, 733 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: although he was coming off I think two and a 734 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: half years of not playing three years and not playing, 735 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: he was nineteen and nine. I mean, so I don't 736 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: even think they need him to be that now. And 737 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: I think why this is a great situation for John 738 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: because he always been called to be the savior. Right 739 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: now you can just come in and be one of 740 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: the guys and and and contribute the way you can 741 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: contribute Now. Obviously you're not the same player you were 742 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: when you were an All Star, but you still have 743 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of basketball to give. And I think he 744 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: has a lot to prove, not only to itself but 745 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. But how how do you 746 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: when you've always been that, how do you tell yourself 747 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm no longer needed. That's no longer needed for me. 748 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: And we don't talk about Russ, but Russ has been 749 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: the guy and he came in again. He still wanted 750 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: to be showed that I feel Russ, So how do 751 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: you how do you How does a guy that's been 752 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: the guy at the stops that he was at all 753 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden say nah, I'm good, I can be 754 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: third fiddle. You gotta ask guys like that, because I mean, 755 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think again with 756 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: with with him, you know what, if you're a student 757 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: of the game, like I know, John is a very 758 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: intelligent person. He watches the game. He saw the game, 759 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: he knows the game. He knows he's older. Although he 760 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: hasn't played a lot in the last three or four season, 761 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: he knows he's a little bit older now. And then 762 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: you also know that this is not every team he's 763 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: been on pretty much has been his team, right, This 764 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: is Kawhia's team and Paul's team, you know what I mean. 765 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: And then Abe even t lose team, right, you know 766 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. So I think he's smart enough to 767 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: understand that where he comes in and is picking, choosing 768 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: his spots and being effective on both ends of the floor, 769 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: is what's going to be a small piece of something 770 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: big instead of a big piece of nothing. When you 771 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: look at PG and Kawai, they've been together almost four 772 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: years now, they don't really have anything to show for it. No, 773 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: and and what is it? Uh? PG is so what 774 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: Kawhi is two? So two on three Area Cold was 775 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: supposed to supposed to deliver some jewelry. But I think 776 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: that and this is not to make an excuse, but 777 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: to me, the only reason why they haven't had anything 778 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: to show for it is because of injuries. And you 779 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: know that's something that you know, the Lakers could possibly 780 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: say with a d with Milwaukee could say last year 781 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: when they lost middle ten as injuries are such a 782 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 1: big part of the game. But what they do have 783 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: is they went to the you know, the Western Finals 784 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: for this first time in the history of the franchise. 785 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: And although that's not gonna do anything, like I said, 786 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it shows them that they do have the pieces, 787 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: and I think now arguably they have the deepest team 788 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: in the game. So on paper, this team looks good, 789 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: but like you said, we have to see it in 790 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: real life both of the course of the season, at 791 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: least sixty to sixty five games for PG and Kawhi 792 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: each to really understand play no. Sixty five games man, 793 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: that man, they played that many games since he left 794 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: San Antonio. Maybe fifty five to sixty man, but lower it. 795 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: But just like I said, understanding that it's it's a marathon, 796 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: not a sprint, and we need both these guys, We 797 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: need everybody healthy going into the playoffs. You look at 798 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: you like you like the Clippers in the West. Who 799 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: you like in the West going to stay in the Clippers? Man? Hey, 800 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: Lakers brought on Pat Bayff love it, love it side, 801 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder. I don't know what he was thinking. I 802 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: don't know his age. I hope he fired his agent 803 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: because if you turned down eighty four million and now 804 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: you come back for he got eighty two million less 805 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: than he should have got. Yeah, that's tough. How do 806 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: you how do you? How do first of all, how 807 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: do you come back for that? Okay, man, I got 808 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: this contract for you. Here, here's eighty four million dollars. 809 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I want one hundred million. No I 810 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: got eighty four No I want a hundred You're like, okay, well, 811 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna test to I'm gonna go out here free agency. 812 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: And you don't get that? Do you fire your agent 813 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: or you kicking yourself? Like? What the hell was I thinking? 814 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: You gotta slap yourself first, and for must because I 815 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck on my agents that if I 816 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: wanted that eighty four I'm gona get it. So now 817 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: there's no agents gonna say let me hold out for 818 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: sixteen more millions. So I think that was probably more 819 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: him than anything. And I'm not mad for people betting 820 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: on themselves, but this, I think is a perfect example 821 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: of when betting on yourself goes wrong. Because you think 822 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: he goes to Boston next year, some shit happens, he 823 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: doesn't really play there, and then he's out of the 824 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: NBA right and then clearly in this summer, you know, 825 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: basketball overseas, he showed he still has what it takes. 826 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: So I thought it was a great pick up for 827 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Just unfortunate that he didn't get his money. 828 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: And if you think about the historical significance of the 829 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Lakers franchise and the fact that so many great players 830 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: that have played at that uniform and hung championships, never 831 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: got that offer right and he turned it down. So 832 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: I think it's something he's aware of, and he's probably 833 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna hear jokes about it for a long time, but 834 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: jokes aside. I think Pat Bevan and Shoulder were great 835 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: pickups for them. What is your expectation for the Lakers? 836 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: It seems to me Russ doesn't want to be there. 837 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: They don't want Russ there, but they can't find a taker. 838 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: And if the takers, I believe any taker that takes 839 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: on Rust is looking to buy Am out and they 840 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily want Rust. They want to extract those two 841 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: first round pick that's unprotected in twenty seven and twenty nine. 842 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: That's what they want. They don't want Rust. They want 843 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: those picks. They want the Lakers. You ain't got no 844 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: first round picks until twenty thirteen. It's twenty twenty two now, 845 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: so Lebron is gonna be gone. Then there's a possibility 846 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: AD's going to be gone. Then we got no picks. 847 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: They gotta win somehow, period. But they got the You know, 848 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: to me, there's so much unknown. Like I said, we're 849 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: all guessing as far as does Rust want to be 850 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: or do they want him there? Do the players do 851 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: they collide do this? All I know is he's on 852 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: the team right now, yes, and they're gonna have to 853 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: figure it out. But I think they can figure it out. 854 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: I think the key to this team, obviously, outside Lebron's greatness, 855 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: is Anthony Davis's availability, but I think second is and 856 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: normally when you go to a team with the superstars 857 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: such as Lebron, everyone else has to kind of change 858 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: their game to make it fit him. I think this 859 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: may be the one rare occasion where Lebron might have 860 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: to sacrifice a little bit to get the most out 861 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: of Rust, because I think we Lebron did the past 862 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: two years is Lebron showed us that he can get 863 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: it from anywhere. Now. We never seen Lebron post up 864 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: as much as he's post up, and he's a monster 865 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: on the block, whether it's whether it's pinch, post or post. 866 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: We've never seen him be a screener and be a 867 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: dynamic roller and dunk on people, and he showed he 868 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: can do that. We also show that he can pick 869 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: and pop now and get the ball to the second 870 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: side and make action. Comes. So with Lebron showing us 871 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: that he has more, which I didn't think there could 872 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: be anymore to his fucking package, but there is more. 873 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: Braun showed us he can get the ball and get 874 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: it whenever he wants. So I think with that said, 875 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: I think Bron may have to take a small step 876 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: back to allow Rust to be Russ because you think, 877 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, you get older, you're gonna your game is 878 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna change a little bit, You're gonna find a way. 879 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: I think Russ is gonna be Russ, and I think 880 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: what makes him great sometimes is his downfall. But one 881 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: thing I do know is you can't put Russell Westbrook 882 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: in the corner. He's always had the ball in his hands. 883 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: So we all know the Lakers are at their best 884 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: with Broun has a ball in his hands. But I 885 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: think that what could happen is allow Russ to have 886 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands the first two and a 887 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: half quarters to really get a feel. You know, obviously 888 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: Bron's gonna have it sometimes, they're ade'll have it sometimes there, 889 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: but allowing Russ to get his rhythm. So by the 890 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: time Lebron takes over at the middle of the third quarter, 891 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, when he has the ball in 892 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: his hand, enjoy the time, Rust is already in rhythm. 893 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: Right most of the time, like I said, they put 894 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: Rust in the corner and make him crash the glass. Like, 895 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: that's not that you're you're not utilizing him to the 896 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: best of his ability. So I'm a firm believer in 897 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, as great as Lebron, if Lebron can take 898 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: a small step back to allow Russ to take a 899 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: step forward, I think that's something they'll figure out. But 900 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: I also think that great players always find a way 901 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: to make it work, and they just haven't had enough 902 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: time together. We broke it down last year, like when 903 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: they both didn't play. I think Rust will average like 904 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: twenty five, nine and nine, you know, and when when 905 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: it was just him and a D he averaged in 906 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: the twenties, and then when Braun was in there, it 907 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: was only down to sixteen. So I say all that 908 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: to say, like, obviously we know how great Lebron is. 909 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: At the end of this year, will be the number 910 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: one score all time, and he's top ten and assists, 911 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: so we know his greatness. But I think Broun is 912 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: also smart enough to know that. You know, for us 913 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: to win, first of all, we need eighties ass on 914 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: the court, but we're gonna need something out of Russ. 915 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: So let me figure out a way I can get 916 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: Russ more involved and get rust feeling comfortab enough to 917 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: be himself because we're gonna need him. What does Pat 918 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: Beverley bring through the Lakers? Energy, dog, a toughness that 919 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: they lacked. I love Pat Bev, you know, same similar 920 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: player to me. You know, I mean someone that you 921 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: know doesn't always get appreciated what they should, but normally 922 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: is a key part to winning. So I think the 923 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: Pat Bev pickup was huge. I think he's gonna challenge 924 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: those guys. He has no filter, so you know, anybody 925 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: can get it. It It was something I love, and I 926 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: just think he's gonna help hold those guys accountable because 927 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: I think I've seen, you know, in the past couple 928 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: of years, and this is no not to anyone. It 929 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: just seemed like, you know, to wear that like your 930 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: uniform and be okay with losing should never be okay. 931 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: It just seemed like those guys were okay. So I 932 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: think when you have someone like Pat Bev, who was 933 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: always on a hundred, he's not gonna let that stuff obviously, 934 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: along with Lebron and Ad and the rest of the 935 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: leaders go, you know, unaddressed anymore. So I love the 936 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: Pat Bev pick up. You have some issues. I mean, 937 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: his first time out on television, he took he would 938 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: just he would just beating anybody over the head like ruh, 939 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: slow down now, yeah, I mean you act didn't like 940 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Magic John, You talk like magic got like six ships 941 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: for fut of your bed. A couple of vps dain't 942 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: champions the brod back like in word low speaking on 943 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: private conversation to pray it Mofo's Outphoy, It's weird. What 944 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: what what did you take issue with? Because I just 945 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: praise the shit out of him, and I love him 946 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: as a player, don't really necessarily know him as a person, 947 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: will respect him as a man obviously, But everything I 948 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: just said in that locker room is okay if you 949 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: want to go off and yell and and and and 950 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: no one is safe. I'm good with that because that's 951 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: the locker room and people do that. You know, you 952 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: don always have to be the best player to be 953 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: a leader, right, So I know that he's a leader, 954 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: and I'm good with that. But when you bring that 955 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: energy and emotion on TV and attack someone like CP, 956 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: it's just like off some personal shit that happened, I 957 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: guess back from a high school campus where it started out, 958 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: and just like to me, I just think in media 959 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: so often it's just like it's not about you know. 960 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: To me, we have a tough job because we have 961 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: to critique, and as former players, you never would really 962 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: want to shot on nobody because we know how hard 963 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I mean, but I think there's a 964 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: way to critique and still be personal, right, to still 965 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: be respectful. And I think of late now, it's just 966 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: so disrespectful that it's just like, come on, bro, like 967 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: you played, you know how tough this game is you 968 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: know how lucky we already even be in these seats, 969 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: Like I just didn't like the energy he brought. But 970 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: it's it's a double edged sword because as much as 971 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: I said something to him, you see, he's on TV 972 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: the next seven days because they like just like reality 973 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: Like reality TV, they like controversy, controversy. It's clicks and 974 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: views and viralness and that's what they want. So again, 975 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I'll have no problem with Pabev. I'm a big fan 976 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: of his game, and I think he's going to be 977 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: a great commentator because he's he's a thinker and he 978 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: speaks his mind and there's always going to be room 979 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: for that when he's done playing. But I just took, 980 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, offense to the way he came in at CP. 981 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: And it was crazy because when I said that, I 982 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: got calls from league officials, old referee. I ran into 983 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: a grocery store. Players like a lot of people are like, man, 984 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: We're glad you said that, because you know, a lot 985 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: of people would have just let that slide. And I 986 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, if we're going to be 987 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: in this space, especially as players, I think there's a 988 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: way we have to conduct ourselves and hold ourselves and 989 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: give the fans a real unique look because, with all 990 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: due respect, people like it or Steve and Ay, we're 991 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: never in that locker room. Correct, They never shot that 992 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: free throw, never had to score that game winning touchdown. 993 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: So they're great at what they do because they're giving 994 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: their perspective as someone who's done a lot of researching 995 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: as a big fan of the game game for numerous years. 996 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: But we played the games. To me, it's different, it's different, 997 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: and I feel like we have a responsibility to carry 998 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: ourselves in and give that back to the fans. What 999 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: about going like when you say something have players because 1000 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: a lot of times with me, you know, I'll say 1001 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: things that what I see and players get upset. Players 1002 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: get upset with me, like, brou you trying to bring 1003 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: a black man down. Bruh, I say you didn't play good. 1004 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: How am I trying to bring you down? But I 1005 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: said you didn't play good. The people at home see 1006 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 1: you didn't play good. So me, I'm supposed to turn 1007 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: a blind out. Now I'm gonna lose credibility because they say, oh, 1008 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: you're covering for your boy. You know, man, you saw 1009 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: that and wanted them to touchdown and you will talk 1010 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: about he played good. Yeah. No, I mean, like I said, 1011 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: we have a tough job. But I mean it's what 1012 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: we signed up for. So there's a way to tell 1013 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: you that you play like ship, but I still love you. 1014 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: But I shouldn't have to tell you that I still 1015 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: love you even though I tell you play like shit. 1016 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: You know, just know that that the best where it's at, 1017 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: Know that there's there's a respect level there. But I 1018 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: think it hurts players more when it comes from us 1019 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: because we play and and this is again this is 1020 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: not a Blaker's statement, but this Nordy. They're not like us. 1021 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: They're not And I don't even mean it from a 1022 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: talent standpoint. I just mean like the thick skin a 1023 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: lot more sensitive and because they've had so much given 1024 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: to them so early, you know what I mean. And 1025 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: I love it, Like get all the money, get all 1026 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: the fame, get all the accolades, but you gotta remember 1027 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: you gotta come out here and perform every single night, 1028 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think it's it's 1029 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: a double air storre for what we do because we 1030 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: do have to critique and sometimes players are going to 1031 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: take it the wrong way, and luckily I have I 1032 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: haven't had no one have an issue, but always said 1033 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: but I'm always willing to talk to someone if if 1034 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: I said anything they felt was over the line or disrespectful, 1035 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: because I really try to pride myself. And again, I 1036 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: have to critique you because that's my job, but I'm 1037 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: not going to disrespect you as a man. Right. You 1038 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: see sha shag of Barkley, they go by, they don't 1039 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: give a shit, and I love it. Man, Charles is 1040 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: crazy shot. They already know Shack gonna say what you 1041 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: all because shacket Shack three hundred feet power. They nobody 1042 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: go ever with Shack. But I'm like, I ain't really 1043 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: tried to go I ain't tried to go there. I'm 1044 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna say, Brun, you should have caught the ball, or 1045 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: you should have got out of bounds, or you should 1046 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: have made this play. And guys get get upset, but 1047 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: sometimes they get mad not to cut you off because 1048 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: they know they should have did it. Like you said, 1049 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: what else you can't fool us. I ain't be able 1050 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: to fool the fans or that. But we know, bro, 1051 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: and you know no better. And that's why I think 1052 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: they'd be getting mad something because they know and then 1053 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: Damn Shannon said, what I fucking knew when I should 1054 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: have did it? And a lot of times I do. 1055 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: I do try to hold back because the crime told me. 1056 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: He's like, you have to understand coming from you, you 1057 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 1: do understand. You got a gold jacket. You were I'm 1058 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: two sixty seven, a big by no. I was the 1059 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty seven member the Pro Football Hall 1060 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: of Fame. I got super Bowls and when I left 1061 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: the game, man, I had all the record. So a 1062 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of times when you when they talk about, okay, 1063 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: what did you do? You tell us what we should 1064 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: do and how would you? But what did you do? 1065 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 1: They can't come at me like that because I want 1066 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: I played at a high level. I got a gold jacket, 1067 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: and they can't and they can't whoop you. So it's 1068 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: like it's like, damn, So I'm like brouh all I 1069 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: did would say you should have called the ball or 1070 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: you should have done this, and somehow you turn that 1071 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 1: into I'm trying to bring a black man down. It's unfortunate, man. 1072 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's it's a tough and it's almost 1073 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: like you always have to pick sides yea now, which 1074 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: is unfortunately you have to like me, giving respect to 1075 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: someone else doesn't discredit anyone else. Run. I mean, it's 1076 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: so much like you have to It's just such a 1077 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: crazy because everyone has voices now right before when athletes 1078 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 1: didn't have voice, you got social media that you got 1079 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: you got how many you got like a billion? You 1080 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 1: got a billion analysts, you gotta billion form the NFL 1081 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: players MLB basketball like hello, bru the referee, but they 1082 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,240 Speaker 1: can't chew gum and dribble a ball. People who couldn't 1083 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: catch a ball to save their life, people who couldn't 1084 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: swing a base ball back without hurting themselves. But everyone 1085 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: as an expert what I mean. So we live in 1086 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: in that kind of world, so we have to take 1087 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt. But at the same time, 1088 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: sometimes people just don't want to hear it. Help. Have 1089 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: you ever played with someone that you had a beef 1090 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: with and then you guys later became teammates because you 1091 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: look at Russ and Pat Bell, I mean they tried 1092 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: to downplay it, but look Pat Bell tried to steal 1093 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: the ball from Russ when he was called the time 1094 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: about and he Clipton and ever since then, for whatever reason, 1095 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: they've been going at it. Now. I believe you consider 1096 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: the side, but you do realize, man, you know my 1097 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 1: knee ain't been the same since you did that bull 1098 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: job because he tore something, right, Yeah, yeah, he tore something. 1099 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean you can you can, you can forgive, but 1100 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 1: you don't forget, right, you know what I mean. So again, 1101 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: I think being grown man and kind of understanding that 1102 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: you're on the same page for the same common goal 1103 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: might be different. But I personally never had a real beef, 1104 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 1: you know. I mean people thought me and Kobe didn't 1105 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: like each other, but we really fucked with each other, 1106 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so much that we almost 1107 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: thought and he had me come to his team. There 1108 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,439 Speaker 1: was never really no no beef there. So I can't 1109 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: really speak to if I had beef of someone I 1110 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: had to play with him, but I can speak to 1111 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: understanding that. Okay, I remember what you did to me, 1112 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: But now we are on the same team, so let's 1113 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: go get it together. Right. What do you expect from 1114 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: Russ this year? I expect a big year from Russ. 1115 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: I think that Russ has been one of the most 1116 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: mentally strong players we've ever seen, because if you look 1117 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: at his resume, it's first about Hall of Fame, but 1118 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: he's taking criticism the entire time. And he's always had 1119 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: a way of just, you know, saying, forget the noise, 1120 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out here and play. But I always 1121 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 1: tell people, come in to LA is so much more 1122 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: than dribbling that ball boy, Like, particularly being a Lakers, it's, 1123 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're constantly under magnifying glass. There's no 1124 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: safety for you or your family, no, you know what 1125 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: it means. So sometimes it's it's unwarranted, but it just 1126 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: comes with having that Lakers across your chest. So I 1127 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: just think he, you know, he realized that I'm back 1128 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: home shit and his sweet as I thought it was. 1129 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: But I gotta come out here and play because I 1130 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer. Like I said that the numbers 1131 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: don't lie. When he was playing by hisself, and obviously 1132 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be he could still produce so and 1133 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I think his numbers were like eighteen, seven and six 1134 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: last year. Overall, that's that's still good, you know what 1135 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean. So I just think again, you know, he 1136 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: had to look at hisself in the mirror because there 1137 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: are some adjustments he has to make. This is not 1138 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: everyone else's fault. There are times where he just didn't 1139 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: play good. He didn't shoot the ball good, and he 1140 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: knows that. But I think again, he's smart enough to 1141 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: know that. And I'm thinking he's coming in hopefully with 1142 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: the clear head and understanding of you know, how can 1143 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: I be the best me while helping this team? Not 1144 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: how it can just be the best me, but how 1145 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,479 Speaker 1: can I be the best mean while helping this team 1146 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: achieve our goal? I think the biggest thing and this 1147 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: is what I tell Man when I talk to him, 1148 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: I say, without expectation, there would be no disappointment. You 1149 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: get disappointed in your kids because you have the expectation 1150 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: for ye. You get disappointed in the Laker nation. They 1151 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: got seventeen championships. They've seen great basketball magic. Kareem Will, 1152 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: Jared Within shot Kobe this was that one. So you 1153 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 1: can't be as you can't use the guys. I'm la kidd. 1154 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 1: I used to go to the raid and watch you. 1155 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: They don't care. They don't care. Did you see when 1156 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 1: it look at Lebron? Lebron came here as accomplished a 1157 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: four time MVP, three time champion, all these NBA, all 1158 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: NBA teams, all these All star you ain't doing none 1159 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: of that for us, So why we care? Don't you 1160 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: put don't you put another Marl up barn because if 1161 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: you do, we gonna take it gard that people. You know, 1162 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: he was out here, people really did. After everything he's 1163 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: accomplished and the thing, he wants to come here and 1164 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: help you guys win more. But he still had to 1165 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: win people over, you know what I mean, they don't care. Really, 1166 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: we live in a society so much or we don't. 1167 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: You know, what have you've done for me lately? It's 1168 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: not your your your credentials, don't travel with you no 1169 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 1: more like you gotta shut don't do it for me, right, 1170 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: So I mean that's the only thing they're on. So 1171 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Bron was able to win. But still, 1172 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: if I mean, if we're talking about Lebron, he's been 1173 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: probably the most criticized athlete in the history of the 1174 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: game sport and we could arguably the greatest athlete we've 1175 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: ever seen, you know what I mean. So again, it 1176 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: comes with the territory. He's done a great job handling itself. 1177 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: But it just kind of seems like, you know, they 1178 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: found a hole to get to Rust, and you would 1179 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: see it last year where he would let the outside 1180 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: know his bothering, which is unfortunate. But we're human. Yeah, 1181 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: you said early on, like they pay us a bunch 1182 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: of money. We're not supposed to feel anything. You still 1183 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: can hear you don't hear it? Guess what you got, homeboy? 1184 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: And you I work out with his little brother Ray 1185 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: every morning. Ray is my dog. We work out every 1186 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: morning over at Boston's place, and that I could see 1187 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: when like stuff is heavy on Rust, Ray comes in 1188 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: with it like you know, they all you know, and 1189 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: we'll talk like bros, you know you're gonna be all right. 1190 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: So I try to encourage his brother just because I 1191 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: know how much as Rust is going through. So just 1192 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: to me as a fan of a fan of the game, 1193 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: a fan of the Lakers, a brewing brother, I want 1194 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: to see Rust have a great season because again, if 1195 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: Ad is healthy, we know where Braun has given us. 1196 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: If Russ can be Rust arrested helps his team, there's 1197 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: no telling what that team could do. Darton Ham was 1198 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: brought on his first year coach and first year coach 1199 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: you're coaching the Lakers. We got Lebron and you got 1200 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,839 Speaker 1: a d and you know what the expectation. There's no 1201 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,320 Speaker 1: a Pacific Division championship, there is no winning fifty games, 1202 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: if championship or nothing, that's all that matters for the Lakers. 1203 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: And this is what's been bestowed upon him, this is 1204 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: what is asked of him. How do you think the 1205 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: Ham is gonna do? I hope he does well. DHM 1206 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: is my guy. We talk a lot. Just talked to 1207 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: him the other night and night before training camp. But 1208 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: he knows when we've talked. I mean, you know, I 1209 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: remember my ex wife's mom told me, when you pick 1210 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: a mate, you're just picking someone to argue with it 1211 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. So when you take 1212 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 1: this Laker front seat, you're taking it to get yelled 1213 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 1: at period, good or bad. You win, it's not enough, 1214 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, you make to the playoffs, it's not enough. 1215 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: You get to the Western Finds, it's not enough. So 1216 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 1: d Ham, I think understands what he's going into. But 1217 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: he's bade his dudes. You know, he's he's learned from 1218 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: some of the best minds in the game. And I 1219 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: wish him the best you know, I think one thing 1220 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: that again I wasn't in that locker room, but it 1221 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: looked like Frank Bogel lost that locker room. They didn't 1222 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 1: give a shit what he said. And that's the worst 1223 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: thing amongst man. If you don't have to control the 1224 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: locker room, you might as well not even coach. And 1225 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: I felt like, without being in a locker room from 1226 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: the outside looking in, that Frank boga lost that locker room. 1227 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: I think Dham is coming with a different energy, in 1228 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: a different presence, and I feel like he's gonna have 1229 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: that locker room. But he's still gonna have to prove itself, right, 1230 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're still gonna have to 1231 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: make calls. You're still gonna have to make great in 1232 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: game adjustments. You're still gonna have to sub Are you 1233 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: bringing Russ off the bench or you not? Like there's 1234 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: decisions decisions. He's gonna have to make these tough decisions. So, 1235 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: although you know there's a lot of respect for him now, 1236 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: he has to show improve just like the players do. 1237 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: So I mean, I wish him the best, but that's 1238 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: a tough head job. You think the head coach to 1239 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,439 Speaker 1: the Lakers, But this is a this is the Laker 1240 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: team that's kind of in turmoil right now. So do 1241 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: you believe that he would be willing to sit Rust, 1242 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: bring Russ off the bench, or sit Russ in the 1243 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter? You think he'll be willing to do that, 1244 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: because I don't. I Frank Boga did it and then 1245 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: he saw Russ get upset and he put it in 1246 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: serting him back into the starting lineup. And if a 1247 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: head coach, you gotta make tough decisions, and everybody's not 1248 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna like the decisions you make, but you got to 1249 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: be willing just say, hey, I believe this is the 1250 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: best for the team. Damn what you think feelings right? Well, again, 1251 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm from the understanding that I hope it doesn't have 1252 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: to get to that, because again, it starts off with 1253 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, a d being healthy and and and and 1254 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: Russ buying into what's best for the team. But if 1255 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: it comes down the point guards, man, it comes down 1256 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: if it comes down to that, he has to you know, 1257 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: whether he's gonna be able to or not. I think 1258 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: he knows that, and that that's not just Russ, that's 1259 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,479 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going with people always trip who starts 1260 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,959 Speaker 1: It's not about who starts, is about who finished this game. Yeah. 1261 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: So to me, obviously you know bron is gonna be 1262 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: a fixture, But to me, everyone else, you gotta show me. 1263 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: You gotta play the entire game well to show me 1264 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: who's gonna get them crunch time minutes, you know. To me, 1265 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: I feel like d Ham has to go there and 1266 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: do it his way because he's gonna take get and 1267 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,239 Speaker 1: get ship no matter what. Going there, I'm gonna do 1268 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: it my way, and this is gonna be my way. 1269 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: So I'm going there and handle my business. And I 1270 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 1: think that's what he's gonna do. What do they bring 1271 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: you on? Like Jared Dudley, you know, may keep the 1272 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: locker room tight. I'll be cool with that. Yeah, I 1273 00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: just well, it's funny. So we were caught on camera 1274 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: at Summer League talking about that. Somehow I think you 1275 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: got a race, but someone posted that shit about you know, 1276 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: I need you to come to lock you know, I 1277 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: mean we are having that kind of conversation, but again, 1278 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: like you do need it. It's people don't understand how 1279 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: important chemistry is. And I think the Lakers, you know, 1280 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: to be able to build a team and win a 1281 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: championship with which they did in the bubble is the 1282 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: hardest thing in sports to do. Chemistry matters a lot 1283 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: because so many teams look good on paper until you 1284 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,800 Speaker 1: get to those hard moments where you lose two or 1285 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: three games in a row or someone gets hurt and 1286 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: how do you handle adversity. Chemistry solves a lot of 1287 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: that shit. So when you don't have chemistry, you really 1288 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: don't have much again, so they found lightning in the 1289 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 1: bottom of that bubble season to be able to not 1290 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: have chemistry, have a completely new team and win. But 1291 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the norm. So I'm hoping that these 1292 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: guys again have have have had some time under the belt, 1293 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: can get more time together as a trio and to 1294 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 1: really see what we have. If if everyone plays, if 1295 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: Braun plays sixty games and eighty plays fifty five to 1296 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: sixty games, and Rust play sixty five seventy games and 1297 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: they don't do anything, then you know that this is 1298 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: not gonna work. But till I see that, or till 1299 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: the world sees that, you really don't know what this 1300 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: trio can do. Well, Russell ond have got one year, 1301 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,720 Speaker 1: russ ain't coming back. They're gonna look to move Russ 1302 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: at the deadline. Say but but I'm i'm I'm a 1303 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: huge Laker fan, but you're a huge Lebron fan, which 1304 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: means you're a Laker fan now. But if Russ comes 1305 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: out and comes out the gates averaging twenty four nine 1306 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: and seven and is playing great basketball, and what if 1307 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: he's doing that through the All Star Break, Well, if 1308 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: he does that, they're gonna move him. So regardless he's 1309 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: gone in here, they're gonna be able to get more 1310 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: because I think the thing is because how does he 1311 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: get those numbers with a D and Lebron? Because that 1312 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: means if he's getting twenty four, Lebron's gonna be twenty eight, 1313 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: D's gonna be twenty twenty four, twenty five. It's hard 1314 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: to have believe that you're gonna have three twenty five 1315 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: point Weill sly Russ down to twenty a game. What 1316 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: if Russe's that twenty nine and nine, how efficient is 1317 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: he going to be at getting that twenty nine forty 1318 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: seven percent from the field and thirty eight from the three. 1319 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: Now you know, damn well, Russe, they about to shooting no. 1320 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: Thirty percent from the three. That's some good hennessy though, 1321 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: that's that's better. That's the that's top nine right there. Yeah, 1322 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: but let me ask you about Lebron. Are you surprised 1323 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: that Lebron we this is unprecedented what he's doing at 1324 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: this stage of his career. How surprised are you because 1325 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,479 Speaker 1: we've never seen another historically great player played this well 1326 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 1: this late until their career as great as Jordan was. 1327 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: Jordan only made it fifteen years now. Yeah, he took 1328 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: a year and a half off and then he took 1329 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: three years off. And Kobe body, he had to run 1330 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: his body into the ground from training and giving it 1331 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: everything he had on the court, and his body just 1332 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: just it just it just left it incredible, incredible, And 1333 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 1: I wish people took more time to understand what we're 1334 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: witnessing instead of critiquing all the time, Oh, he didn't 1335 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: do this, he didn't do that. The fact that this 1336 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: man is gonna be thirty eighth this year in year twenty, 1337 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: but last year nine eight and six thirty seven years 1338 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: old year nineteen, and he's averaging probably could have won 1339 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 1: the Suporting Out if he had a few more games 1340 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: on himself. Like to see what he's doing is just unbelievable. 1341 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: And with me being a student of the game and 1342 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: a fan of the game and a fan of him, 1343 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: I just wish people would appreciate what he's doing more 1344 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: because it's it's not gonna happen now much longer. And 1345 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: I think too often were so caught up in disrespecting 1346 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: or or or or or or being negative towards people 1347 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: instead of appreciate greatest. And that goes across the board 1348 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: for staff and a lot of these people that are 1349 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: out here displaying greatness on a daily basis, and people 1350 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: still find a way to say negative things about him 1351 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: because if you look at it, Lebron will score fifty 1352 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: and the first thing they said, well, Correy would have 1353 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: gave you sixty five, George would have gave you seventy. 1354 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: It's never gooda the guy had fifty six against Golden 1355 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: State and somebody still five. Well, he's still missed five threes. 1356 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: He still did this. It's always it's like it's never 1357 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: good enough. Do you realize the man for eighteen straight 1358 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: seasons because average at least twenty five, he's been in 1359 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: his prime since he got here. We've never seen we've 1360 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: never seen someone step in the game, you know, at 1361 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: at eighteen years old, and here we are, he'll be 1362 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: thirty eight and in December, and you've seen nothing but 1363 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: him getting better and him being great the entire time, 1364 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: which is which is unbelievable. I mean, you look at Lebron. 1365 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: Lebron is six hundred and seventy eight days out of 1366 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: the NBA, six hundred and seventy nine days in the 1367 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: NBA half his life has been entertaining us, and we 1368 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: take it for granted. I feel like you, but you 1369 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: did question Lebron's leadership because you said you think he 1370 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: should be tougher on his teammates because Kobe A. Jordan 1371 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: would have not allowed the team to slip like he 1372 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: allowed it. Do you think he's too? What is it? 1373 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Because you were around Kobe and we've heard the stories 1374 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: about Mike with final teammates. That's not who Lebron is. No, 1375 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: it was me too, And after I said it, I'm like, damn, 1376 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: why did I say that? Not from a standpoint that 1377 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but I don't really know you 1378 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: know what I means? So to me, it seems like 1379 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: he's just such a cool everyone everyone leads different right, 1380 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: and there's no rule book on how to lead, Like 1381 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I remember Phil and said, you know, you can't talk 1382 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: or magic. Johnson said, you can't as a lady. You 1383 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: can't talk to everyone the same. You have to know 1384 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: how to push a different buttons. Yeah. Yeah, so I 1385 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: misspoke on that from a standpoint if I don't really know. Again, 1386 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: I was guessing, like everyone seems to always do. But 1387 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: it just seems like from the outside looking in that 1388 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: they were okay with the ship they were putting out there, right, 1389 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, and and and and and that wasn't okay 1390 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: from a standpoint of just being a Laker fan, being 1391 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: a Lebron fan, like you would think, like I wish 1392 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Lebron would get on these guys ask But who's to 1393 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: say he didn't get on their ass in the locker 1394 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: room or in practice. So that was a situation where 1395 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: I misspoke. But again, I think what makes Lebron great 1396 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: is he does things his way. There's no rhyme or 1397 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: reason on on on leadership or ways to do it 1398 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: and way not to do it. He's found a way 1399 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: to do it his entire career, and uh, that's just 1400 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: what it is. He said his goal now is to 1401 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: play with a son. I'm assuming Bronnie you got to 1402 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: coming down there. Yeah, you got you coming down the pipeline. 1403 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: And they're about to change the rule where you know, 1404 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to go in effect 1405 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: this year, so it's probably not going to be applicable 1406 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: to Bronnie. But he wants to play with with one 1407 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: of his sons, or who knows, maybe even both of 1408 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: his sons. Do you wish you could have played with 1409 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: your sons if they were older? Yeah, you know, but 1410 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean who wouldn't want to, you know what I mean? 1411 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: And if anyone should be allotted, you know, allowed to 1412 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: do that, why not him? You know, why not change 1413 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the rules and and and allow that to try to happen. 1414 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: I think again, for his body of working, what he's 1415 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: been able to give us as fans, the way he's 1416 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: carried himself on and off the court his entire career, Like, 1417 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 1: why not allow that to happen? You do you wish 1418 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: you to have? I mean, because I mean to have 1419 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: that happened, Like Griffy Junior got this opportunity to play 1420 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: with his dad, So clearly you're gonna have to have 1421 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: kids at a fairly young age. Do you wish how 1422 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: much how much of your career did your kids witness 1423 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: they were young, but they they got Ah. So my 1424 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: kids were born in two thousand and eight, and they 1425 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: could obviously, so they started kind of getting it when 1426 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I came to the Lakers, so when they were three, 1427 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: from three years old till I retired when they were nine, 1428 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: So about five or six years of being in locker 1429 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 1: room with Kobe and Powell being in locker room of 1430 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 1: christ and Blake being in the locker room with Katie 1431 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: Steph play, they got to soap the game up. So 1432 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine what it would be like if they 1433 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,439 Speaker 1: actually got to get on they were teenagers, right get 1434 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: on the court and have a chance to play with 1435 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: them or play with me. You know, as a father, 1436 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, your your whole mindset changes as a dad, 1437 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: and you always just want the best and you want 1438 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: to give your kids the best experience. So I get 1439 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: my kids the best experience I could, because obviously they 1440 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: were too young. But you know, wouldn't it be a 1441 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: great thing. You don't see that in basketball, you know, 1442 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: you've seen it in baseball, but to be able to see, 1443 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, arguably the greatest player of all time get 1444 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: a chance to play with one of his sons. I 1445 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: think it would be dope. Dude. What do you expect 1446 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: from Lebron this year? What do you expect me? Obviously 1447 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: with thirty eight and six, but it did and have 1448 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot to show for it. They won with 1449 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: thirty three thirty four games. Last year, they didn't win 1450 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot of games, and if any, the simulations 1451 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: done having him winning a whole lot of games this 1452 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: year either. What is your expectation for Lebron and this 1453 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Lakers team? I think for him to pick and choose 1454 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: his spots because we know that you know, obviously the 1455 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,960 Speaker 1: goal is for them is to get to the playoffs 1456 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 1: and possibly compete for a title. But more of the same, 1457 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, I hope it's a it's a it's an 1458 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: injury free season for him. I hope that you know, 1459 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: Ad is able to bounce back and have a special 1460 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: season that we know he's capable of stay away from 1461 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: the nagging injuries. You know, I hope that Rust comes 1462 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: out and is able to contribute because I feel like, 1463 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: you know what what, Cob Cobe rolled the rode the 1464 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: ship until it sank and you know, he could have 1465 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: jumped ship and went somewhere else and possibly won a 1466 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: six title, because that's all it was on his mind, 1467 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: is being able to sit at the table. Jordan Kobe 1468 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: ran the ship until it sank. You know, I hope 1469 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: that Lebron doesn't have to go out that way. I 1470 01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: hope that, you know, they're still competitive and there's a 1471 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: chance for them to win. And on paper, they have 1472 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the personality, they have the best roster. No, you know, 1473 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: does it need some tinkering, yes, but what they have 1474 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 1: now is Anthony Davis, Lebron, James and Russell Westbrook and 1475 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 1: then not you know, some nice pieces. So how do 1476 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: you get that to perform at the maximum level while 1477 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: allowing Lebron to kind of pick and choose his spots 1478 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 1: because again, he'll be thirty eighth this year. Man, and 1479 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's what he's doing is incredible, but he 1480 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: is obviously older, so you just have to be careful 1481 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: with that. LeVar Ball he said, all my boys gonna 1482 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 1: play in the NBA. Leangelo just signed with a non 1483 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: guaranton contract with the with the Charlotte Harnets. How how 1484 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: is your your style? Your coaching style because he coached 1485 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: all of his kids. How's your coach, how's your style 1486 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: as a parent as a coach? Similar or different than that? 1487 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: With LeVar And well, I think before I think there's 1488 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: a misconsception. People don't think I like him or appreciate 1489 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 1: what he did. And I come on, man, a black 1490 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: father to get his kids where he even got him 1491 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: to even have a chance. I commend them for When 1492 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: I started critiquing him, it was because I felt like 1493 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: he let these lights get to him, right, you know 1494 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 1: what I mean. He became the star instead of his 1495 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: sons that were the actual up and coming star. So 1496 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: that was I never critiqued his fathering or anything like that. 1497 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, what he did was a hell 1498 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: of a job. Where are we different? Probably not much. 1499 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't know a ton about him 1500 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: from what I you know, I see he yells, I 1501 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: yell uh. He had three very talented boys, and you know, 1502 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: and now all three of them had a chance to 1503 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: play in the NBA, which is great. But to me, 1504 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: the most important thing was he was there right, And 1505 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: to me, that is the most important thing. Like my 1506 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: whole thing is I'm always like I had my fun 1507 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 1: in the sun. You know, I had my run, and 1508 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: my whole thing is is is to play the background 1509 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: on this journey for my kids. You know, obviously I 1510 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 1: have two thirteen year old boys now, and then I 1511 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: have a three year old who's a monster coming down 1512 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: the pipeline. So you know, my oh he's a monster, 1513 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 1: and I'm good. The a DM, I'm not sure and 1514 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But my whole thing is, like 1515 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I said, I got my chance to see what these 1516 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: lights are like and and and made the most of 1517 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: my situations. So my whole thing is, you know, hopefully 1518 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: I can be just liking from a standpoint and I'm 1519 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: able to help my kids get there, but I would 1520 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: just be doing it more from a you know, push 1521 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 1: them in front and put me in the back. Are 1522 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: you gonna allow to do they want to play football? 1523 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Do they want to do anything other than play basketball? 1524 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: So me and their mom used to go at it 1525 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: because I'm a football player. First, I was a better 1526 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: football player than I was a basketball player, so I 1527 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 1: always wanted the boys to play. And then we started 1528 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: watching all these you know, because and all that kind 1529 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 1: so you know, obviously it scared her and she was 1530 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: from the understanding and they're not playing tackle, so with 1531 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: her and I pick and choose my battles that I'm 1532 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna argue for, and that wasn't one of them. So 1533 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: but I was also someone that didn't play tackle until 1534 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: high school, right. I played flag up through eighth grade. 1535 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 1: So you know, the boys were playing before the pandemic 1536 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: hit and then they never got back into it. But 1537 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: this is more for a kind of my three year old. 1538 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: We'll just have to kind of see when it crosses, 1539 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, when when when across that bridge, when it 1540 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: gets here. Because I love foot football is my favorite sport. 1541 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm a Sunday ticket fanatic, red Zone. I'm on my 1542 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: little love cycle, my joint and my drink and no 1543 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: one bothered me. So I love football. I'm a huge 1544 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: fan of it. So this will probably be more for 1545 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: my three year old when the time comes and we're 1546 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: just gonna have to see. What do you think? I mean? 1547 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 1: Trade Young? I as you, he said. Trade Young's dad said, 1548 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 1: stop comparing my son to the other guards in the NBA. 1549 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 1: At this point, he's an All NBA player, two time 1550 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: All start starter, two games from playing in the NBA Finals. 1551 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 1: They're more barely more than a handful of guards that 1552 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,640 Speaker 1: it has his resume, it's levels to this. Uh, what 1553 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 1: do you think of trade? He's a small I mean, 1554 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: first of all, normally small guards, there's only been two 1555 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Steph and Isaiah that can say we lad teams. Yeah 1556 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,600 Speaker 1: to NBA Championship. Now I don't count magic. Magic is 1557 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: a guard of magic six nine. Magic was the side 1558 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: of centers and power forwards. So magic and I think 1559 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 1: Magic is kind of a stand alone. But when you 1560 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: talk about small guards six two six three below Iverson 1561 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: Obviously with Spectacle, he led him, but he wasn't able 1562 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: to get past Shack and Kobe. What do you think 1563 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,560 Speaker 1: of trade? What do you think of trades game? I 1564 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: love trades game. I think he's a almost a two 1565 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 1: K version of what step is doing. You know, obviously 1566 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 1: not the accolades or not even can really compare them 1567 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: as players, but just similar styles from the ability to 1568 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,519 Speaker 1: shoot once you pass half court, ball handling, genius, make 1569 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: other people better on your team, and he normally has 1570 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: a high eight or nine assists the game. Yeah, So 1571 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,160 Speaker 1: to me, it's just been you know who Atlanta is 1572 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: able to put around him. You know, if you think 1573 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: about it. He was traded for Luca, and I think 1574 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: both teams really feel like you know, there wasn't you 1575 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 1: can pick or choose, but I mean it's been a 1576 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: solid trade. You look at their numbers, very solid and 1577 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 1: keep it real like they both made it to the 1578 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Eastern and Western Finals respectively, you know what I mean. 1579 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: So I love what Trey Young does. I'm really interested 1580 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: to see if him and Jan Tay can work together 1581 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: because on paper, again the names look great, but getting 1582 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,240 Speaker 1: to see them play will be something different. You know, 1583 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: John Collins and they're able to add pieces, but I 1584 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: think you know, they're just gonna need to add more 1585 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: pieces to make that team competitive. I think I really 1586 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: feel like they they possibly need another star, whether that's 1587 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 1: trading someone and and helping bring that person in. But 1588 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: I just don't think they have enough, as heavy as 1589 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: the East is to really make that that next jump. 1590 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: But as far as just being a player, UH, big 1591 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: fan of Tray his heart, he's built for the moment 1592 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: that you know, he drives New York people crazy. I 1593 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 1: always love that. So I'm a big fan of him 1594 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: in his movement. Give me your top players under the 1595 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 1: age of twenty five. You got Luca, jt Jason Tatum, 1596 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 1: John Morant, Trey Mellow, b I, Zion Lucas one okay, 1597 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is two okay, Jaws three Okay. I don't 1598 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: know where to put Zion because he could be one 1599 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,679 Speaker 1: if he was healthy, but he hasn't been healthy. So Luca, 1600 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Jah Trey Lamello, and I would have to 1601 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: put Zion six because we just haven't seen enough for 1602 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 1: him right. But Zion could very easy to be going 1603 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: if if he comes out. I mean, people forget how 1604 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 1: quickly and what kind of numbers he was putting up 1605 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 1: as a young player, breaking field goal percentage records left 1606 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: and right. In to me, he doesn't really even know 1607 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 1: how to play NBA basketball. He's doing all that off 1608 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 1: playing athleticism and strength. So once he figures out this game, 1609 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy, Zion is gonna be a 1610 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 1: problem build a franchise. I'm gonna give you Luca, Jannis 1611 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 1: or Jason. I'm gonna say Yannis because he can do 1612 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: it on both sides of the ball. Are you surprised 1613 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: how good Luke is because I look, I mean when 1614 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 1: you look at it, he ain't got no business whatsoever 1615 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 1: that body doing what he does reads ever, he's a gamer. 1616 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 1: He's especially he's a unicorn, you know. I mean he's 1617 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna go down with all due respect to Dirk and 1618 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Drowsing and some of these other guys. Uh if not. 1619 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, a keen form greatest foreign born player in 1620 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: the history of the game. And I think that, you know, 1621 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 1: he was playing against grown man at a young age. 1622 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: You know, I think today it's crazy because I coach 1623 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: a you these parents are holding their kids back. We 1624 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 1: played a fifteen year old seventh grader this summer, like 1625 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm as a sophomore at fifteen, you know what I mean. 1626 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: So people always are trying to protect their kids, and 1627 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: do they. But I say all that to say that 1628 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: that Lucas parents threw him in the fire early. You know, 1629 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 1: he's playing against men that are smoking cigarettes at halftime 1630 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 1: and like twelve or thirteen years old. So he's been 1631 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: in the wars, in the battles. He knows how to 1632 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 1: play against people. So when he got to the NBA, 1633 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: there was nothing new to him. You know, to me, 1634 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: I think he was the most NBA ready offensive player 1635 01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. When Steph I said if Steph win 1636 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the title. He's a top ten player. He has four 1637 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,680 Speaker 1: he has four rings, a finals, MVP, two MVPs, one 1638 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 1: of them unanimous. How would that resume? How do you 1639 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: keep him out? I'm I don't have no rebuttal he's 1640 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: a top ten player. He's definitely a top ten player, 1641 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,560 Speaker 1: and I think he has room to climb, you know 1642 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, whether he wins more or not. I 1643 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever see another Steph Curry. The ability 1644 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 1: and and and if you think about it, you know, 1645 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: there's very few people that have changed the game during 1646 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 1: the course of their career. But who has changed it 1647 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: more than Steff I understand what kareem. There was no 1648 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Duncan because this isn't that. But again, me coaching AU 1649 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: kids now and seeing that kids put kids put their 1650 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 1: shoes on and start shooting from the sideline or half 1651 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: court like they don't even go in the paint and 1652 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 1: get warm. Now, and that's the Steph Curry effect. And 1653 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,599 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone change the game from the grass 1654 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: roots to the to the top. I mean, you know, 1655 01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 1: it's you know the old added you know, when I 1656 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,879 Speaker 1: first came in the league, it was inside out basketball. 1657 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: You live by the three, You're gonna die by the three, 1658 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 1: and Stephen and Clay and the Warriors completely changed that. 1659 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 1: So I have so much love and admiration for Steph 1660 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 1: and always you know, competing against him, and to getting 1661 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: a chance to play with them and see his work 1662 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: ethic and really see he's just a really good like. 1663 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't see how you can't like him. He's a 1664 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: really You might like him because he keeps busting your ass, 1665 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 1: but outside they've been a great person, hard worker, and 1666 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players we've ever seen. You went 1667 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: to Draymond wedding, all the guys showed up. What what 1668 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 1: is Draymond? Because I think Draymond is the heartbeat of 1669 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: that team. Obviously he's not their best player. We know 1670 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 1: Steph is their best player. Clay might be the second 1671 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,320 Speaker 1: best player. Hopefully he rounds back and become that two 1672 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,479 Speaker 1: way player that he once was prior to that knee injury. 1673 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: I think a year removed from those serious injuries that 1674 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: he had in mckenley's tear ACL tear, he'll be even better. 1675 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: What does Draymond do for the Warrior? He's the hard 1676 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: and soul of that organization of that city. And I 1677 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: knew it from the outside looking in, but once I 1678 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: got there, it's it's you can clearly see it. I mean, 1679 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: this team, again, he's not the best player on the team, 1680 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: but this team wins no championships without Draymond Green. And 1681 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: that's not a far fetched that's not a hot take. 1682 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: That's just facts. And I think if you ask Stephan 1683 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Clay that they would tell you the same thing. He 1684 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 1: does so many things, whether it be offensively getting guys 1685 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 1: the ball in their right spots and getting guys organized 1686 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 1: like a quarterback out there, or being a six six 1687 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,320 Speaker 1: if you're lucky on a good day, defensive player of 1688 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: the year that can cover for everyone else's mistakes. I mean, 1689 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: and then just his energy and and and you know, 1690 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 1: he walks that fine line and sometimes he crosses it, 1691 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: but that what makes him dray Bond. So I think 1692 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,640 Speaker 1: he takes a lot of heat because you look at 1693 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,560 Speaker 1: the stat sheet and it's not going to tell the 1694 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 1: whole story, you know. So when he goes in the 1695 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, people are gonna be talking twenty twenty 1696 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: five years from now, that motherfucker average eight points and 1697 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 1: eight and eight assists like, right, you know what I mean. 1698 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know it's four he's 1699 01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: a winner. Yes, it's it's four championships. It's God's All Stars, 1700 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: it's an Olympic goal. That's a defensive of money, it's 1701 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: a defensive play of the Year, and it's a chance 1702 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 1: to Really he gave a lot of people, like how 1703 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 1: Steph gave smaller guards an opportunity. He gave a you know, 1704 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: a lot of Swiss army knife an opportunity to even 1705 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 1: get a look in the NBA now because you don't 1706 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,679 Speaker 1: have to be able to you know, shoot like Staff 1707 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 1: or jump like Lebron to to to play. I mean, 1708 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,839 Speaker 1: this guy is a really intelligent one of the smartest 1709 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: people in general, but probably one of the highest basketball 1710 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 1: queues I've ever got a chance to be around. So 1711 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: this guy thinks the game, sleeps the game, and is 1712 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: one the heartbeat of that team. It's also from Kevin Durant. 1713 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 1: We know he is an immensely talented players seven foot talk, 1714 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 1: can shoot mid range, shoot the three, great free throw percentage. 1715 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: But but the book, it's Happy Birthday today too, Happy 1716 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Birthday broke every birthday, Katie h. But no rings without 1717 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 1: staff and there's no way you can get around it. 1718 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,640 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't get around it. You can't. And 1719 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: step one this ring right here, with step one, this 1720 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: ring means more than the two that he won with 1721 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 1: k D. Yeah, no question, because you're byself or not 1722 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 1: by excuse me, not by myself. But he did it 1723 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: on his own gut final MVP. My question you before 1724 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: I answer, what Katie is to Steph have two rings 1725 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: or four rings? If Katie never goes to Golden State. 1726 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: I believe there has two. I do not believe they're 1727 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 1: gonna be And they knew that. The way Carrie and 1728 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Lebron had just tracked them down from three one, they 1729 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: had gotten confidence. They're not beating them, right, They're never 1730 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: gonna beat them again. And they knew that. Yeah, there 1731 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 1: you go, okay, u k D one of the most 1732 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,839 Speaker 1: efficient players we've ever seen in the game. Another unicorn, 1733 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 1: you know, a six to eleven guy that can handle 1734 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: the ball like a guard, shoot like a guard. But 1735 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,000 Speaker 1: like you said, I think he will get his respect 1736 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,760 Speaker 1: when he if he's able to get that ring, you 1737 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And people criticize, you know, oh 1738 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 1: you lost to them and went and join them. I'm 1739 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,600 Speaker 1: all for player empowerment. Like if you want to go 1740 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 1: somewhere and then you're gonna be happy there, go play there. 1741 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't knock anyone on that, But again, I think 1742 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the criticism is like you won with Steph, you know, 1743 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,920 Speaker 1: can you win by yourself? And he's not even by itself. 1744 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't speak to if it bothers him. 1745 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 1: But if enough people are saying anything and you feel 1746 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 1: like it's not true, it's gonna bother you. Yeah, you 1747 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I can't speak with people 1748 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: on social media. Something bothered him. Yeah, But but see, 1749 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 1: I like I like that too because again, like Kevin, 1750 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant just cussed me out, like how many people 1751 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: are you gonna if you're a regular person, how many 1752 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: people you're telling that to? You're telling everybody? You know 1753 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: what I mean? So people, why is he could? Why 1754 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 1: does he interact? Or why? Because he wants to? He 1755 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: has a lot of free time on his hands. He's 1756 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 1: a good basket, you know, he's got time to do it. 1757 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 1: So I don't knock that, but I think he has 1758 01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 1: to win, I think to get the respect he deserves, 1759 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's got two rings v dominating 1760 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 1: finals MVPs. You know so, I yeah, Like I said, 1761 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: I think the only people think, the only thing people 1762 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: question or want to see is, you know, can't he 1763 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,719 Speaker 1: do it without staff? You talked about some of lebron 1764 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: leadership skills, and I think that's one of the things 1765 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: that come into KD is its leadership skills. He's made 1766 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 1: it abundantly clear he just wants to I don't want 1767 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the leadership. I don't want the responsibility of being a leader. 1768 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: But I think he has to bear that because when 1769 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,560 Speaker 1: you go when you go to Brooklyn, you're trying to 1770 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: establish a culture, and so you need to be the 1771 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 1: boys that says, Okay, guys, we need to do this, 1772 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 1: We need to do that. It's just not good enough 1773 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: to let your play speak for itself. That's a tough 1774 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,640 Speaker 1: one because we both know the best player is not 1775 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: always the leader. No, and that's that's not just basketball, 1776 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 1: that's across the board. But again, when you're trying to 1777 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,919 Speaker 1: establish something in the new place, your your voice outside 1778 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: of your play does have to speak, and I think 1779 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: that's what that team has been lacking. You know what 1780 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't all of a sudden just become 1781 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: a leader, right, you know what I mean, Like that's 1782 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 1: either in you or it isn't in you. So I mean, 1783 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: it's no knock on him, you know, Like I said, 1784 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,799 Speaker 1: he wants to come out here. Who've ben play basketball? 1785 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 1: So it like him being the raw ra yelling type, 1786 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily him. He's going to speak his mind 1787 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: when when it needs to be spoken. But you know, 1788 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 1: I think when if people are looking for him to lead, 1789 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily a quality that he wants or has. 1790 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I think he does enough other things to 1791 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: obviously get the stamp of approval. So to me, who 1792 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,080 Speaker 1: steps up in as that leader. Is it Steve Nash? 1793 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Is it Kyrie? Committed Kyrie? Is it someone else lead? 1794 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,320 Speaker 1: If you can, you can't leave when people don't know 1795 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna show up to play or not. Again, 1796 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 1: I think like like hard, and I think Kyrie is 1797 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 1: going to have a monster season two because you know, 1798 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 1: I've been critical of him, you know, because I really 1799 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,760 Speaker 1: felt like, obviously you're supposed to put yourself first, but 1800 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: we're also in the team sport. Yeah, you know what 1801 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean. And to think that, you know, keV left 1802 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Golden State to come fuck with you because he felt 1803 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,919 Speaker 1: like you too, and we all do you remember the excitement? 1804 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 1: There weren't too many people saying, oh, this team is 1805 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: not gonna be good, like we all thought that man Katie, Kyrie, 1806 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 1: oh man, they just got James too. This is arguably 1807 01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,280 Speaker 1: the greatest trio, Like what is this going to happen? 1808 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of you know, and I'm 1809 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 1: never going to knock a man on you know that 1810 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,679 Speaker 1: that that COVID situation was a monster. And then whether 1811 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 1: a lot of people, yeah, I mean to each their 1812 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,880 Speaker 1: own as far as whether you want to get get 1813 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 1: backs or not. But I just think that you know, 1814 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 1: along his road, in his path, he forgot that he 1815 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,840 Speaker 1: was an integral part of a team, that that that 1816 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,559 Speaker 1: he was the driving force behind Kevin coming to Brooklyn. 1817 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: And I say this just from a stance and I 1818 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,040 Speaker 1: just want to see because I know how good he is. 1819 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,640 Speaker 1: The world knows how talented Kyrie Irving is, we know 1820 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,680 Speaker 1: how talented Kevin Durant is, and I just want to 1821 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: see them hitting on all cylinders. I think from a 1822 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,080 Speaker 1: fan's perspective, are you surprised that Katie Askport trade in 1823 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: the manner in which he asked because it became public 1824 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 1: go that was that was bold. I think if he 1825 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: would have just asked for one, it might have worked. 1826 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: He can't ask for both KD. He can't ask for 1827 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 1: the coach energy and he would It's just I get 1828 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 1: that motherfucker at it. They might have did it. But 1829 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 1: am I surprised, Yeah, because nowhere, Yeah, No, you know, 1830 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,960 Speaker 1: I just think there's there's just a lot of a 1831 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 1: lot of There's just a lot of stuff that goes 1832 01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,080 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes and organizations that we just have 1833 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 1: no idea whether it's you know, some sneakiness or some 1834 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: backdoor and some other stuff. Like there's just so much 1835 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 1: stuff we don't know that could have prompted that or 1836 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,240 Speaker 1: just him just tired of the BS. But I think 1837 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: no matter where Kevin Durant plays, there's always going to 1838 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: be a circus around him because of what's happened in 1839 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 1: the past and just how good he is. So, you know, 1840 01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,479 Speaker 1: he asked for a trade. You know, New Jersey stood 1841 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: on their own and said like, we're not just gonna 1842 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,720 Speaker 1: give you away. And I think he I think he 1843 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:49,960 Speaker 1: said the other day, it's like I know they're not 1844 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 1: just Kevin Durant, so you know they tried to do it. 1845 01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I think what happened with that is if the Rudy 1846 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 1: Gobert trade messed up the whole pop I don't know, 1847 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who did that trade. If you can 1848 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,760 Speaker 1: get swaps in four first round picks for Rudy Gobert, 1849 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean that makes me think as an organization, I 1850 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 1: want eight to ten first round picks that went because 1851 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: they're not even in the same But yeah, but Brooklyn 1852 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 1: said the team like just because just because they made 1853 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 1: that hardway, we're not doing that. Yeah we're not. Yeah, 1854 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,680 Speaker 1: we're not doing that dumbness. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1855 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, with all due respect, because 1856 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm I like Rudy Gobert, you know, defensive Player of Year. 1857 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna help Minnesota. But I think that 1858 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert trade messed up a lot of movement in 1859 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,000 Speaker 1: the NBA this ship because I think there would have 1860 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 1: been a lot more movement if that kings Ransom wasn't 1861 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 1: paid for him. But what about the possibility they say, 1862 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, now, Kevin Durant was in 1863 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 1: Golden State. Ideal culture. You're not gonna win anymore than 1864 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,280 Speaker 1: what he won there, and he didn't. He wasn't. He 1865 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 1: went somewhere else. Okay, he's in Brooklyn with his homeboyd 1866 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 1: best friend, and he wasn't happy there. So what's to say. 1867 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 1: We give up a Jason Tatum, we give up a 1868 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, we give up two first round pigs. And 1869 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,640 Speaker 1: a year later he come does say hey, I need 1870 01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to move now. We don't gave up a twenty five 1871 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: or two he sex year old, two first round pick 1872 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,560 Speaker 1: and Kevin and Red wots to move again. Ain't no 1873 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: tell him you just you really just don't know, Shannon, 1874 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: You don't know. You know what I mean. You gotta 1875 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: hope to build a surrounding around that he's comfortable in 1876 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 1: and then that that he can go out and drive it. 1877 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 1: That they gave him everythings Brooklyn bread that Yeah, yeah, 1878 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying they didn't. You know what 1879 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it's still he still wanted to leave you, 1880 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like to me, there's no 1881 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 1: rhyme or reason. The one thing I just know about 1882 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 1: KD is despite what he says, that what he wants 1883 01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: to do every time he steps on the court, you 1884 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 1: know what he's gonna give you. Yeah, you know what 1885 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's the one thing that I'm always 1886 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,719 Speaker 1: gonna respect about him. You could say, oh, he fights 1887 01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter, or he wants to be traitor, or he 1888 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: can't do this or he can't do that. Every time 1889 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,960 Speaker 1: he steps on the floor, he's given it his all 1890 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 1: and I gotta respect that. James Harden. Are you surprised 1891 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 1: that he went back at the price that he went 1892 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,639 Speaker 1: back at because he obviously he could have got more money. 1893 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,080 Speaker 1: But James Harden was not the James Harden that last year. 1894 01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. He said he lost a 1895 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. I think he was just joking, but he 1896 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 1: looked like he lost the weight. He lost it. He's thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1897 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 1: he might have lost some weight. But another player. Again, 1898 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that he's on a It's funny 1899 01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 1: too because it's it's to me, it's Kyrie, Russ and James. 1900 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,519 Speaker 1: I think all are going to have big seasons. And 1901 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 1: I think that James, you know, there was always so 1902 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:18,920 Speaker 1: much to make you know, during his career while he 1903 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,640 Speaker 1: was killing that you know what he was doing off 1904 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: the court what he was doing. We're always talking about 1905 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 1: what he's doing off the court, but to me, it 1906 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 1: never mattered because on the court he was killing. You know, 1907 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 1: but one two time a little baby off, like I said, 1908 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing the run. Yeah exactly so. But but again, 1909 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,759 Speaker 1: once the play is not up here and it drops 1910 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, then they're gonna start questioning what he's 1911 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 1: always been doing, you know what I mean. So to me, 1912 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,640 Speaker 1: I think he heard the noise. He recommitted hisself and 1913 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 1: he's still a great I mean, you say what he wanted, 1914 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 1: but it was he twenty and ten last year. He 1915 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 1: was still a twenty and ten guy. So I think 1916 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: a recommitted James is going to be scary body in shape, 1917 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: mind and shape, and even if he's not giving you 1918 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: thirty to thirty five. And by the way, they change 1919 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 1: the rule because of James Harden realize that, you know, 1920 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 1: they that all that shit that he invented, and how 1921 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 1: to you know what I mean, he he they change 1922 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 1: the rules because of he had mastered That's how good 1923 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,160 Speaker 1: he had got. So I think James is going to 1924 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,040 Speaker 1: have a really big year and I respect him for 1925 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,400 Speaker 1: for for you know, taking that contract cut to to 1926 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,600 Speaker 1: try to build a championship situation because he knew, you know, 1927 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,639 Speaker 1: as you get older, you just start putting different things 1928 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,720 Speaker 1: in priority. And he knew that they needed to add 1929 01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 1: some shooting and then add some toughness. So him taking 1930 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: that less money allow them to fill out the roster. 1931 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,479 Speaker 1: And now they have one of the deepest rosters in 1932 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: the league. And I don't think they're getting enough consideration for, 1933 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, a real championship contender because I feel like, 1934 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, if he's sitting on all cylinders and Bead 1935 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: has been incredible the last handful of years, they've been 1936 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: able to fill out that roster. They stay healthy. Yeah, 1937 01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: that's the key. Health is the key. So again I 1938 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: think that if this team can stay healthy with the 1939 01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,600 Speaker 1: recommitted James Harden, tell me a team this better than that. 1940 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 1: Give me your top five players an NBA right now. 1941 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Top five damn? I mean this is gonna go viral too. Yep, 1942 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 1: an order just five of them? Go order? Fuck? Well, 1943 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm happy. I'm my first one. Number one is Jannie. 1944 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm taking Yannie, Janis KD Steph Ebid. I'm gonna take 1945 01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 1: heat for this. Last pick, Am I missing. Oh, shoot 1946 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 1: me back up, I forgot. Yeah, hold on Jannis k 1947 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 1: D Steph, Lebron and Ebide and Lebron has only slid 1948 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: down that age just because he's older, not his body 1949 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 1: of work. Still the best player in the world, pol yo, 1950 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, one of the greatest players to ever played 1951 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: the game. But yeah, that's hard. I leave. I leave 1952 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,560 Speaker 1: Luca off. I'm leaving the twue time, I'm leaving the 1953 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,880 Speaker 1: two time MVP off, the last back. I'm leaving the 1954 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: mbat the odds on favor, Luca is odds on favor 1955 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 1: this year. But I mean, Yannis is incredible, honest is 1956 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the one superstar you see Shannon that every single year 1957 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 1: he comes back better on a different aspect. And that's 1958 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 1: the thing that I said about being Simmons. That's upsetting 1959 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 1: because I saw how Yanny shot the ball when he 1960 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: got in the NBA, how he shoots it now right. 1961 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: You see John Morant, you see the improvement that he's made. 1962 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 1: You see the improvement loads of ball. I don't care 1963 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 1: what you do. I don't care. I can take I 1964 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 1: can start something to date and if you give me 1965 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 1: sick heres, I might not master it. But I'll be 1966 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: better than what I'm started. And I don't even think 1967 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm keep her. I don't even think he's a bad shooter. 1968 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 1: I think it's mentally. He's afraid to miss, He's afraid 1969 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:53,880 Speaker 1: to shoot an airball in the big moment, He's afraid 1970 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 1: to hit the backboard on the jumper. Like. I think 1971 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,360 Speaker 1: it's more that because, like I said, I've seen him 1972 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 1: work out, and I've seen him play pick up games 1973 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,679 Speaker 1: and you'd be like, oh shit, this is in your bag, 1974 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 1: you know so. But yeah, Yannis k d Steph Lebron 1975 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:17,800 Speaker 1: and indeed what was Katie was upset? Is the two 1976 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,840 Speaker 1: k ratings six. Who do you think right now the 1977 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 1: best player in the world right now? I mean, to me, 1978 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,760 Speaker 1: it's between Katie and Jannis. And the only reason why 1979 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,439 Speaker 1: I give Jannis the edge is because of the defensive 1980 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: side of the game. I mean, if you look at 1981 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Katie's efficiency and how amazing is on the offensive end, 1982 01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Janna is still still putting up He may not be 1983 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: as efficient, but he's still putting up monster numbers on 1984 01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,600 Speaker 1: the offensive end. But then also he's a defensive monstitute. 1985 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,760 Speaker 1: So Katie is someone that I think his defense gets 1986 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 1: overlooked because he is out there blocking shots and garden people. 1987 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I just think Jannis is a better defender, so I 1988 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 1: have to give I have to give Jannis that nod. 1989 01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 1: And Yannis is younger too. Right. You mentioned earlier about 1990 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:05,639 Speaker 1: the situation that happened with your sister. You got into 1991 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: an alternation. The KKK showed up to your school. Showed up. 1992 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, did he show up to your house 1993 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 1: or just to school. We moved, We moved, Yeah that 1994 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 1: there was a green light, so we had to bounce. Okay, 1995 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: what did that situation? What did it teach you? What 1996 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 1: did it do to you? It showed me, although I'm 1997 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 1: very proud to be African, American and Italian, that the 1998 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,599 Speaker 1: world looked at me as a black man. Like at seventeen, 1999 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I realized, because what are you going, I'm Italian and 2000 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 1: black at that moment, like nah, they forgot that Italian part. 2001 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 1: You're a nigga, Like yeah, like yeah, yeah, they look 2002 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,040 Speaker 1: at you as a nigger. That's how they look at you. 2003 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 1: And that's what it taught me. It's just like, man, 2004 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm very proud of my heritage, of 2005 01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 1: my upbringing, but it showed me that the outside world 2006 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: looked at me as a black person. I'm looking at 2007 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,439 Speaker 1: your story. You stayed all four years that the UCLA, 2008 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,560 Speaker 1: you got drafted the second round, you go to the 2009 01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,880 Speaker 1: d League, played in the ABA with Denis Robin, the 2010 01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Long Beach jam Well did this Robin like you gotta 2011 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,040 Speaker 1: crazy this Robbin story. I didn't get too much time 2012 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: with him. I wish I had more time because literally, 2013 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,639 Speaker 1: like he came in two weeks later I got called 2014 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 1: up to the Clippers. I wish we got with it, 2015 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,720 Speaker 1: got time. But I tell you, he used to come 2016 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: with the whole entourage, barefooted, with his bulldog, and and 2017 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and just it was just a dope experience because you 2018 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 1: gotta think, this is, you know, early two thousand, so 2019 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,680 Speaker 1: he's just coming off of, you know, a great run 2020 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,680 Speaker 1: and he's trying to get back. So just to be 2021 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,600 Speaker 1: around him for a little bit and chop it up 2022 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 1: with him. It was like literally a week and a half, 2023 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 1: two weeks before I got a chance to leave. But 2024 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't really have no crazy robbing the stories. We 2025 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,560 Speaker 1: talked about going out, but we never got to. You 2026 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,200 Speaker 1: mentioned football is your favorite. What's your favorite sports still 2027 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,400 Speaker 1: is it's your favorite sport that you love to watch. 2028 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,559 Speaker 1: What position did you play? And do you think if 2029 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 1: you say, you know what, the way I devoted my time, 2030 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,840 Speaker 1: my energy, my effort to basketball, if you'd have devoted 2031 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 1: that to football, you believe you could have made it 2032 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,719 Speaker 1: to the NFL. So I never liked to disrespect because 2033 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's it's one in a million 2034 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 1: to make these professional ranks. And I have so much 2035 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 1: respect for football. But I honestly feel, like you know, 2036 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: at six seven, I ran a four three nine. I 2037 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: had a thirty nine inch vert and I can really 2038 01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: catch the football like I was a football player first, 2039 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 1: like no one could stop me. Like my senior year, 2040 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,720 Speaker 1: I had it started off as a turf toe, but 2041 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 1: it turned into a broken toe. But I had like 2042 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,559 Speaker 1: fifty two catches and twenty eight time. Like every other 2043 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,040 Speaker 1: time I caught the ball, I scored. And it wasn't 2044 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 1: just deep routes. I was going across the middle stops. 2045 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,120 Speaker 1: I was running whatever route was needed to ran. I 2046 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,679 Speaker 1: was ran. So I was just I think a little 2047 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,479 Speaker 1: bit before my time, outside of like you know, obviously 2048 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 1: Harold Carmichael with the Eagles and him being six seven, 2049 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: but there was no six seven, six to eight guys 2050 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 1: at the time playing that, and I just felt that 2051 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 1: I would have more longevity if I played basketball. I 2052 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 1: was able to make basketball, but to me, basketball was 2053 01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 1: the harder route for me because I was a better 2054 01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,240 Speaker 1: football player, right, Yeah, And you know there's more football, 2055 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,840 Speaker 1: they're more football players. They're fifty forty six fifty three 2056 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,759 Speaker 1: players on the team as opposed to twelve to fifty. 2057 01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,680 Speaker 1: But then also, you know, Shannon, there was a big 2058 01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 1: like there was a big kind of I don't know 2059 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,080 Speaker 1: what the word is, but there was a bunch at 2060 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:11,519 Speaker 1: a time where there was a bunch of guys that 2061 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:14,120 Speaker 1: were playing college basketball, couldn't go to the league, that 2062 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 1: were jumping into the NFL. Yeah, you mean Gates, Jimmy Graham. 2063 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,840 Speaker 1: There's a handful of guys of these big athletic basketball 2064 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 1: players both. But he knew like he was a football player. 2065 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 1: Some of these guys, some of these guys were literally 2066 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,680 Speaker 1: jumping off the basketball court and finding space on the 2067 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 1: football field. But I was really a football player first. 2068 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 1: So that's why I said, So you could have been 2069 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,400 Speaker 1: a tight end, you could have put on like twenty thirty, 2070 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,439 Speaker 1: been a tight end because jim Jimmy is like six 2071 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,880 Speaker 1: seven and nine, could have could have again, just it 2072 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,040 Speaker 1: was just a little early, and you know, basketball just 2073 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 1: seemed like the way to go. I'm looking at you. 2074 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 1: You You you a partner a lot of stuff hop 2075 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,520 Speaker 1: riotsha app, using using drivers based off interest, making documentaries, 2076 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:58,720 Speaker 1: all the Cannabish Swish founding athletes versus cancer. What are 2077 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 1: some of your most What is Matt Barnes most proud 2078 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,880 Speaker 1: of now? Being a father? Hands down, I think being 2079 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 1: a father is the greatest what do you want to 2080 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 1: call a job opportunity? Greatest thing that I've ever done 2081 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 1: is being a father. It's what I take the most 2082 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,639 Speaker 1: pride in. But I just think, you know, really Shannon 2083 01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,600 Speaker 1: my way to just Dug my way and hart my 2084 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,800 Speaker 1: way through the NBA, and I mean second round pick 2085 01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 1: that bounced around, played on a handful of teams. But 2086 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 1: if you look at every stop I made, I was 2087 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,920 Speaker 1: either a starter at the first and second guy coming 2088 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,240 Speaker 1: off the bench. So I was always a contributor in 2089 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 1: the NBA. So I think just to be able to 2090 01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,760 Speaker 1: have the career I had in the NBA, the longevity 2091 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,960 Speaker 1: I had, but then to be able to flip it 2092 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,240 Speaker 1: post career, you know what I mean. Normally I would, 2093 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I was a role player. Normally 2094 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 1: role players fade off into ot security. You know. For 2095 01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,320 Speaker 1: me to to to be sitting here with you right now, 2096 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,799 Speaker 1: five years removed, with my name being bigger and stronger 2097 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:59,640 Speaker 1: than it's ever been TV makes you crazy, you know 2098 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:01,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. But just to even have the opportunity again, 2099 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 1: like there's so many stars or former stars that want 2100 01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 1: to have these seats that you and I have that 2101 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 1: they're doing. Everybody can't do it, but they're not. They're 2102 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: not cut out the likelihood. But what you can do 2103 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,080 Speaker 1: is that you can talk on camera. Just because you 2104 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 1: play great doesn't mean you'll be great on camera, right, 2105 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I tell people. Everybody like, oh man, 2106 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,720 Speaker 1: but when that red dot go on different? Can you 2107 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,479 Speaker 1: hold them out front? You can you carry on a conversation? 2108 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,519 Speaker 1: Can you explain it to the late person at home 2109 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do, what they're what's going on? 2110 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,639 Speaker 1: And everybody can't do that, can't And and like I said, 2111 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 1: so I just think my run through the league and 2112 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,080 Speaker 1: and to be able to have success after basketball. So 2113 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 1: I would say being a father, and then just kind 2114 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 1: of the path I've built for myself because I'm more 2115 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 1: common than a Steph Curry, you know that, or Lebron James, 2116 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Like you know, I was a blue collar, hard working 2117 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,840 Speaker 1: role player. So if I can show these guys, whether 2118 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: you make it the league or not, like if Matt 2119 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,640 Speaker 1: could do like, why cannot Like, That's what I want 2120 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 1: people to think, right, So I'm hoping I'm showing people 2121 01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 1: that too. You played on nine teams in fourteen years. 2122 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,360 Speaker 1: If you construct construct the starting lineup with your former teammates, 2123 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 1: woo whoo woo, point guard, I'm gonna have to go with. 2124 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,040 Speaker 1: So you gotta think I gotta let's go go viral 2125 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,920 Speaker 1: you elsa? People are I think I played with? I 2126 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to really play in Philly with 2127 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,320 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson was my point guard. Ye, Steve Nash was 2128 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 1: my point guard. Ye. Steph Curry was my point Yeah, 2129 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is my point A healthy Baron Davis was 2130 01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 1: my point guard. So that's five right there. But so 2131 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna start at the point position. It's gonna start 2132 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,599 Speaker 1: at the point position. The only reason why I'm taking 2133 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,599 Speaker 1: CP over step is because I only played a half 2134 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,320 Speaker 1: of season with Steff, So I'm taking CP as my point. 2135 01:36:52,479 --> 01:37:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking Kobe as my two. Okay, I'm taking taking 2136 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 1: Grant Hill as my three. Okay, I'm taking Chris Webber 2137 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 1: as my four and Shock as my five. Okay, man, 2138 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Steph, Dwight, oh I fort Yeah, see, I 2139 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,720 Speaker 1: don't care. Dwight and I played with Kate k KD. 2140 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I don't count them because I only 2141 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:28,720 Speaker 1: I didn't get to play with him that like, and 2142 01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,040 Speaker 1: I didn't get to play with Katie at all. Yeah, 2143 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,240 Speaker 1: but I didn't. So the situation was I came in 2144 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,160 Speaker 1: when Katie got hurt, and the first game Katie came back, 2145 01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,000 Speaker 1: I nearly broke my ankle. So I didn't really get 2146 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 1: a chance to play with k D because I was 2147 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 1: out pretty much the rest of the year. Like, by 2148 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,680 Speaker 1: the time I felt healthy was the Western Finals and 2149 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,720 Speaker 1: we were eight no already. So so I didn't get 2150 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 1: a chance to play with Dre and and and and 2151 01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 1: and Steph and Clay and Katie long enough to have 2152 01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:56,040 Speaker 1: them qualify for this list. You played Kobe was eight 2153 01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 1: played against Kobe. That was eight you played with him 2154 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,640 Speaker 1: when it's two. If you had to choose which one 2155 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 1: was the best, I think the numbers are identical. I 2156 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,639 Speaker 1: would pick twenty four just because I just think off 2157 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:14,880 Speaker 1: the court, he was more open as a person and 2158 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 1: had been through so much and and we just got 2159 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,680 Speaker 1: such a unique chance to bond. You gotta think we 2160 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 1: went from nearly fighting to him calling me from a 2161 01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 1: number I didn't even have saved to telling me, asked 2162 01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,360 Speaker 1: me if I want to be a Laker, Like I 2163 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,120 Speaker 1: was literally about to go to Miami. So I'm talking hello, Hello, 2164 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:39,880 Speaker 1: you rejected the goal? Yeah, yeah, I'm been like, I'm 2165 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 1: a Laker fan. Bro. So I was in So I 2166 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,679 Speaker 1: was supposed to re up in Orlando, and stan Vangunni 2167 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,760 Speaker 1: was acting funny. So I was literally talking to pat 2168 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,519 Speaker 1: Riley d Wade and they're talking about like that, well 2169 01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,439 Speaker 1: we're about to build something over here. You know, there's 2170 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,400 Speaker 1: words of him coming, and there's words of Bosh coming, 2171 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,720 Speaker 1: and it's right up the freeway for me. And I'm 2172 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: literally having conversation with pat I feel pat Riley. And 2173 01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:03,599 Speaker 1: one day I get a phone call. I'm still out 2174 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,760 Speaker 1: in Orlando, chilling, and I get a call from a 2175 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 1: number I don't know, and I never picked up my 2176 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 1: phone and I just happened to pick up the phone 2177 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,839 Speaker 1: and it was him. It's like it's cold. I'm like, bullshit, 2178 01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,800 Speaker 1: who is this. He's like like, nah, it's me. And 2179 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,560 Speaker 1: we kind of start going back and forth, and he 2180 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 1: asked me what I'm doing, and I literally tell him 2181 01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:19,920 Speaker 1: like I'm kind of up in there. Man, I'm talking 2182 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 1: to Miami right now, and I fuck, Miami, you want 2183 01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,960 Speaker 1: to be a Laker? I'm like, hell yeah. Like four 2184 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 1: days later, I was a Laker. You see the new 2185 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 1: craze Now Matt is these celebrity boxing batches. Baby, you 2186 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 1: see Nate man. Nate told me he's gonna represent for 2187 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:41,240 Speaker 1: the coach Matt and dude got floorboarded. We saw who 2188 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,240 Speaker 1: else swagging? He got knocked at the ring man. They 2189 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,280 Speaker 1: got us looking bad out here. Well, my whole thing 2190 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,760 Speaker 1: is like even when and I even talked to Nate, 2191 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,760 Speaker 1: like I box to stay in shape, but I know 2192 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,280 Speaker 1: how serious boxing is, and I think a lot of 2193 01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:58,880 Speaker 1: these guys people don't want the toughest workout. Go just 2194 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,080 Speaker 1: go outside and just try to throw punches for a minute. 2195 01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 1: Because if you think, I mean, we've all been in 2196 01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 1: our little skirmish fights, fights asked like twenty to forty 2197 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 1: five seconds. These are three minute rounds with people that 2198 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 1: and to me, I think where athletes underestimated. You saw 2199 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,800 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson just get knocked out, but athletes underestimated would 2200 01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: got knocked out. He fall liberty different talify the UFC. 2201 01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: But how how do you react when your cage gets rattled? 2202 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:23,840 Speaker 1: You know, you hit me with a straight ride or 2203 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:25,680 Speaker 1: uppercut or something. How am I going to react? And 2204 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,479 Speaker 1: how am I going to protect myself after I've just 2205 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 1: been rocked? And I don't think enough athletes have been 2206 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,439 Speaker 1: rocked to understand that that's a serious part of the game. 2207 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 1: I think. I mean, anyone can look good hitting pads 2208 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:39,720 Speaker 1: are doing all these one two three one two make 2209 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,599 Speaker 1: it look so easy. They make it look so easy, 2210 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:45,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that that that's sparring 2211 01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 1: and getting hit it is so important. It's so it's 2212 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,840 Speaker 1: the biggest bar man. Like I said, you can look 2213 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,800 Speaker 1: like you could look like Ali on them gloves, but 2214 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,840 Speaker 1: you ain't never been good. How do you react when 2215 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 1: you get hit? You guys, yeah they got us like 2216 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,680 Speaker 1: a bad out there though you you do somebody care 2217 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 1: for you. They say, Matt, we got two million for you, 2218 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 1: we make it five. Yeah, but hold on, hold on, 2219 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 1: who you who you gonna be in the celebrity match 2220 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,559 Speaker 1: with that? That's that's the point that, Yeah, I don't 2221 01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 1: really say I don't really have no beefs out there 2222 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,320 Speaker 1: of anyone I want to like me put in the ring, 2223 01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:20,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't you know what I mean, Like I 2224 01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:22,680 Speaker 1: don't really have no smoke with nobody. So I mean, 2225 01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 1: for five million, outside of Mike Tyson or any like 2226 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 1: real fires anyway, if you really box, I'm not gonna 2227 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: box you, But for five million, I'll box someone who's 2228 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,519 Speaker 1: not a boxer or a MMA five or somebody that's 2229 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,599 Speaker 1: on your level. Okay, you know you do this for fun. 2230 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 1: I do this for fun. Yeah, we're getting that. We 2231 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 1: go with five five round five two minute rounds. Yeah, 2232 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to stop smoking for a little while. 2233 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna stop a lot of things for a little 2234 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: I need my lungs to be right. But now that's 2235 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,720 Speaker 1: the one. Yeah that that boxing is no joke. Man, 2236 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 1: I like my hats offer always to these m these 2237 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 1: boxing because it's a different world. Man, it's that's they 2238 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,040 Speaker 1: practice their entire life to be there. And sometimes athletes 2239 01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: think because we succeeded on one thing, we can jump 2240 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 1: in at the one That ring of the cage is 2241 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,439 Speaker 1: one thing. And the booth, the ring the cage and 2242 01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 1: the rat booth, that's something we just can't jump in 2243 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,800 Speaker 1: because we had success in a certain space. Go out 2244 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:10,360 Speaker 1: there and jaw, go out there and run for like 2245 01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,600 Speaker 1: ten minutes and then try to throw some punches for 2246 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:16,759 Speaker 1: three raps. Man, Come on, man, who is your favorite 2247 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: football team? Niners? Favorite player in football? Yep, h right now? 2248 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:31,720 Speaker 1: My favorite player is who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Man? 2249 01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 1: I just go my all time favorite players Jared Ris 2250 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 1: and Deon Sanders. Okay, who you got winning Super Bowl 2251 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:44,920 Speaker 1: this year? Man? Tom ain't looking the same? Is not 2252 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 1: looking the same. I want to believe that. I think 2253 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 1: my Homes thought to me, I think my Homes is 2254 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,880 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the NFL, and I think they'll 2255 01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,439 Speaker 1: find a way to to be there. So I either 2256 01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:03,160 Speaker 1: Buffalo or Kansas City, Okay. And I want to talk 2257 01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,280 Speaker 1: about these four hundred fourteen man, how do you get 2258 01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,920 Speaker 1: away four and twenty four and twenty thousand dollars? Oh? Man? 2259 01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: Because I can't shut up fines. Fine, if you had 2260 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,600 Speaker 1: that money right now, huh yeah. And another thing, I 2261 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,639 Speaker 1: took less money to to to win too. I wish 2262 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 1: I had that money right now too. See, you could 2263 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,160 Speaker 1: win to Miami. They got no state tax. It's still 2264 01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,800 Speaker 1: to come out here when you have one. They want 2265 01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,400 Speaker 1: two rings. See, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't give that 2266 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 1: up for the opportunity that got opportunity to play with 2267 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:33,640 Speaker 1: cold labor cob and and even further play for you, 2268 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,240 Speaker 1: play for the Lakers, become brothers and and and and 2269 01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 1: and share and and go to his daughter's games, him 2270 01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,000 Speaker 1: come to my boys games, boys calling him uncle Coble. 2271 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:44,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change that for money or rings. So bruh, 2272 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:48,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yes, cheers, thanks for having me. And 2273 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,280 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to call this here earlier. This is 2274 01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:55,759 Speaker 1: the congratulates. Yeah, this is dope. We got your bottle. 2275 01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:00,679 Speaker 1: We still drink that brown over here, Oh yeah we do. Man. 2276 01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:05,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, bro, thanks for having me all my life 2277 01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,080 Speaker 1: and running all my life sacrifice. I hustle Bay the 2278 01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 1: price I wanna slice, got the broller dice to swap 2279 01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,599 Speaker 1: all my life. I've been running all my life, all 2280 01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,639 Speaker 1: my life, and running all my life. Sacrifice, hustle Bay, 2281 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,200 Speaker 1: the price, Wanna slice, got the broller, dice to sware 2282 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 1: all my life. I've been running all my life.