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Speaker 1: it that's David Lindsay Beart. I mean, I guess he's

425
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: gotta pulled her for a reason that like that's life.

426
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: It's not just one thing caught the range on him.

427
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: Like to like to go from like rabbit hole rabbit hole. Yeah,

428
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: this I mean like also about like loss or grief

429
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: or something mortality, but like to write a role that

430
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: like Victoria was able to sew beautifully render like she

431
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: never characterizes like the youth. She never like makes being

432
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: a teenager seem like Colin or you know at all.

433
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: Just like not to describe a Broadway show in this

434
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: way because it feels so minimizing. But it's like it

435
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: is like a vibe. It is like, Wow, there's something

436
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: so tender about this in every aspect that I thought

437
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: was really really lovely. I could see it as a film.

438
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean when I was watching and I was like,

439
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: I can adapted for the screen. Yeah, is it is?

440
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: It really goes? Sorry, man, is it really going on

441
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: the entire time? I haven't been home, So I just

442
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: got an email that was like, it will be till

443
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: four pm throughout the day and the power will also

444
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: be off during this time. So that's just kind of

445
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: like what what I'm experiencing right now when I'm sort

446
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: of living right now. Can we make an announcement? I

447
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: think I think Matt is on his last dregs with

448
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: l A. I'm out of here. I think he's I

449
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: think he's out of there. I'm kind of out of

450
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: here because I have a new boy and Lenny. He

451
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: lives in New York. I miss all my friends in

452
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: New York. And I don't think I'll have an apartment

453
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: in New York that sort of does this, So you

454
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: might you might, you know, I mean like Bowen doesn't

455
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: live in the dream Escape either, I don't. I don't.

456
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Are you even thinking by coastal? Are you thinking I'm

457
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: thinking by coastal? But and also I'll say this, like

458
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: I love seeing shows, I like going to things like

459
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: in New York you do that, Like that's one of

460
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: the things I've really loved about going to New York

461
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: is like being able to see everything incredible that's happening there.

462
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: The culture, if you will. The culture exists in New

463
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: York and it does not exist in l A. And

464
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking it. I'm just sitting here sort of

465
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: all the fire alarm blares in the background, thinking about

466
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: how you know, um oh, and it left, okay, so

467
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, and like, so let me jump in

468
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: now just to say it's gone, and uh, we're feeling good.

469
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Have you been How long have you been in New York, Bunny?

470
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: You must have been pumping the streets many years? Oh god, um,

471
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I have been here fourteen Okay, that's more than ten,

472
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: which makes you an official New Yorker. Congrats think you

473
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: with fifteen? God has been fifteen? Yeah, fifteen. Were on

474
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: similar timelines. I think we Matt and I moved here,

475
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: which is right around the time that you sort of

476
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: have realized what the culture is that made you say

477
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: culture was for you? Wouldn't you say about I would

478
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: say this, I would say so yes. So I guess

479
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: this is time for us to ask Bonnie the question

480
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: we ask all of our guests, which is Bonnie Milligan,

481
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: what is the culture that made you say culture is

482
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: for me? So I have like a split answer on this.

483
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: I think in general what I realized I love you split, right,

484
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: we love a split. I grow up, you know, as

485
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: like a kid of the nineties and something that like

486
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: immediately it was like this is for me. Where the

487
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: divas of the nineties like yes, Mariah Whitney, Selene Reba.

488
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: Why did I know every word to fancy when I

489
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: was like eight years old because it's called taste, thank you?

490
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: And you had one France Fancy. You don't don't let

491
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: her down, don't. I would love I have and I

492
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: will right now. No, but I can I love, Love,

493
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Love Selene. I loved your your rant about her not

494
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: being on Rolling Stone, because truly, as a singer, was

495
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: that not the most insane thing you've ever heard? I

496
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: actually I can't because I'll get upset. So that was

497
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: absolutely something. I was like that culture is for me,

498
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: diva dum, big voices and like living your life. And

499
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: I was so little, and I was like, got it

500
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: kind of connected to that? So I grew up in

501
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: a double way trailer in the Midwest, daughter of a preacher, poor, etcetera.

502
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: And it's not like it wasn't like I forget which

503
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: one is secular and non secular. I don't remember which

504
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: one means, what secular means, non religious, religious. I wasn't

505
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: like not restricted, clearly. I just named all those diva's um,

506
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: but you weren't like watching racy things anyway. My best

507
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: round in fourth grade, fourth grade, her favorite movie was

508
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Rocky Horror. When I went off at your house, her

509
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: mom had like an album of like an actual record. UM,

510
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: we would listen to it. We would watch the movie

511
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: and on my mind was like whoa. So that was like,

512
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: this is also for me. It's like a giant, like,

513
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, we played it on the playground where like,

514
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: let's play Rocky Horror. Like I knew every word. I

515
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: lived my life. Um, that's so weird and it's amazing.

516
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: And I always wanted to be Magenta because seems seemed

517
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: the most fun. And I would usually get stuck playing

518
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: like the Janet. I'd be like, I don't want Oh

519
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: my god, that's a character actress's heart. Okay. And so

520
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: I remember I was sitting at home, it was like

521
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: some Saturday, and I had the remote. I was slipping

522
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: through my dad the Preacher, you know, sitting behind me,

523
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: and it was like on VH one, and so I

524
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: like paused because it was like, oh my god, my

525
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: favorite movie, the thing I played every day. My dad's

526
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, keep going. You're not allowed to

527
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: watch that. It was like absolutely, yes, okay, that looks crazy.

528
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Did he understand what Rocky Horror was? Yes, he's seen it,

529
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: and he was like no, like there's a person to

530
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: touch me. I want to be dirty, definitely saying that

531
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: on the playground. What but like we didn't know, but

532
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I was like, no,

533
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: we're not watching that. I was like okay, wow, but

534
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: see like, what harm is it really doing if we

535
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: as children don't know what it means? Like, that's my

536
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: there's no harm exactly, I mean no harm. There's a

537
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: fine line. I bet, like we shouldn't be like you

538
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: don't want to hear a kid singing about like something

539
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: to elicit, but then you're like, I didn't get it.

540
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: I want to hear a kid singing things, sing about

541
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: something elsten I want to I wanted I want to

542
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: see little Bonnie touched me, and I want to go

543
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: over to the chaperone, the reso chaperone, and be like,

544
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: you're not doing your job. Okay, those girls over there.

545
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: You see that little group of girls and then saying

546
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: touch touched me, you're saying a break. They you to

547
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: time out. You're fired out, Recess chaperone. Remember those icons,

548
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Recess Chaperon's lunch monitors, the unch culture. They were the

549
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: dreamers of dreams. They were the ones leading the culture. Yeah,

550
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: and they were like volunteers from the community. You know,

551
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: they weren't paid. Well, we're just like nice older ladies. Yeah,

552
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: my god, I bet we would be great, the three

553
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: of us. I think so. In the performance at Recess. Yeah,

554
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, I would be. We would be like

555
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: choreographing and giving scripts to children. Yes, this is let

556
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: us do. That is not fun. I have an idea.

557
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: What are you let me give you culture because you

558
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: don't have any. I'm six, grow up, grow up? I

559
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: love it. Did you feel like the diva's inspired you?

560
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: This sounds like such a stupid Chilow question, but let

561
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: me know if this makes sounds. Did you feel like

562
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna belt because the divas are belting, and therefore

563
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: I will start my own belting journey as a bell dress?

564
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: So okay. What's interesting is I'm not really like a

565
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: trained singer like I always sang. I'm like an instinctual singer.

566
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: So I sang my whole life. My family was musical.

567
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: I was always singing in church into like school choirs

568
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: and stuff, so, you know, like our choir teacher would

569
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: give us kind of like voice lessons to talk about

570
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: certain things. Um, and then I took like a voice

571
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: lesson one semester in college from like a t A.

572
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, I did that too, and I loved it.

573
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: But I went to school for acting. I didn't go

574
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: to school for musical theater. So I was like Okay,

575
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: I did that, but I had the most funding gospel

576
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: choir at college, and he did it like traditionally are leader.

577
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: Like he would sing you got just a sheet of words,

578
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: and he sang everybody's part and it's just like trains

579
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: your ears so well. So he would sing the soprano

580
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: line down to the baseline. He was incredible. Wow. And

581
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: so that was sort of like my music education in

582
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: so many ways. When I sang along to my faves everyone,

583
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: I just listed Mariah, Selene Whitney, the girls. Yeah, the girls.

584
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: I would mimic them. So I would like use my book.

585
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I remember my older husband like she sings just like Selene,

586
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: come on, sing a song, and I've like I was obsessed.

587
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: So I would sing all those songs like that. But

588
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: if you gave me a sheet of music, I was

589
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: like MIXI pretty place because I was like, oh, that's

590
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: how you're supposed to sing other So like the pop songs,

591
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: I would sing like that, but like if you gave

592
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: me anything else, I wasn't like out there belting until

593
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: I got to like college, and I love musical theater,

594
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I could belt to

595
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Like I love musical theater so much, and I feel

596
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: like I wrote one point, I was like, I don't

597
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: know if I have a voice for musical theater because

598
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: I would sing the other way. And so during college

599
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I was taking a Christian link later speaking voice class

600
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: and learning about my resonators. Hold on that sounds like singing,

601
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: like just like the warm up of like hey hey.

602
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, I can keep going

603
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: higher and not singing, and that is not something everyone

604
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: can do. And then all of a sudden, I became

605
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: like the bell dress. But that's also why, like as

606
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: you both heard in the show, like I don't just

607
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: belt everything just like the comedy like you. I like

608
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: to use all parts of my voice. I just started

609
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: doing a lot of concerts in two thousand fourteen and

610
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: somebody like branded me belting Body, and I was like, okay, great,

611
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: what'll gobout that? It is pretty indelible. And then like

612
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: I see belting bonds on social media and I'm like,

613
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: it's body, you know. Yeah, I annoyted that was your

614
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: journey with the vocal. Yeah, yeah, that was the journey

615
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: of the vocals. And correct me if I'm wrong. This

616
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: is you currently possessed the highest belted note on Broadway.

617
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I have been told that. I haven't told that Janina

618
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: story told that to our COVID guy, who was like

619
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: gagging for it, and he was like, what is that

620
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: likes right? She said, yes, right, because I love a

621
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: gay COVID guy. That's like, I'm gagging. You know what,

622
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: Let's shout out to Nolan. He's also a huge fan

623
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: of Less culture. What he was for Row at the

624
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Cultural awards him Yes, I don't know. I mean I

625
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't came to meet you after because he was like,

626
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: I love them so much. Um. And also he was like,

627
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: if Bowen stays, because I was like, I don't know.

628
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: You know, I was texting everybody because everybody's very excited

629
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: you were there, and I was like, friends, I said, guys,

630
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. So Nolan was on the thread and

631
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: he was like, if Bowen does stay, text me, I'm

632
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: running over. I mean, I will send a beautiful care

633
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: package to everybody. I I just I truly felt so bad.

634
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: I was, oh my wait. Not that I like to

635
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: share like these kinds of stories, but I did have

636
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: a very bizarre interaction yesterday. I was buying a drink

637
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: in the lobby and then a woman comes up to

638
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: me and goes, just just like, I'm at the bar

639
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: and a woman comes up to me and puts her

640
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: arm around me and then starts to like pat me

641
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: on the back and she goes, I'm gonna do this

642
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: in the chilliest way I can. And then she stops

643
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: and just stares at me and then keeps touching me

644
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: on the back. And I was like, I was like, oh,

645
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: and like they were like literally five seconds went by

646
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: of just me being like, oh, wait, this is what

647
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: would you like? What would you like? And then and

648
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, d do you want a hug?

649
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: And she just didn't say anything, and I just tugged

650
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: her and then she left. Anyway, we're gonna cut this out.

651
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: But I was just like, it was truly, they can't

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: just come up and caress That's okay, I mean it was.

653
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: I was just like, and she said, I'm gonna do

654
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: this in the chilliest way I can. Oh, ma'am that

655
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: that is the opposite and the opposite. And there literally

656
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: cozy on me. It was cozy on me. Um wait, okay,

657
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: it's Monday. We have you on your on your day off,

658
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: do you have a Monday ritual. What's on the docket. Well,

659
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: now we have SAG screeners, so that it's going to

660
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: be on the docket. Maybe some movies, um, but typically

661
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: it's like sleep in and then I have a sweatshirt on, bios,

662
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: pajama hands on and she can't see, and I keep

663
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: that vibe. I don't go out. I like rest. Oh

664
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Speaker 1: that was, oh my god. I don't go out. I

665
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: just rest. And then what you don't know, readers, because

666
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the podcast are not visual medium, is her camera absolutely

667
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: flew off the table. She used to resonator for that.

668
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: She used a resonator. Yeah it's healthy, um so, but

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00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: it's no singing on Mondays. No, not really unless I

670
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: might get like a cameo request only podcasts that are

671
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: also And they say talking is sometimes even more stressful

672
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: on the boys. I know, but you gotta see I'm

673
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: placing it in a like bow and said a nice

674
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: warm bath. We just we gotta give a gentle. You

675
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: really are Oh wait, can you guys help me on this?

676
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I was whispering for a while to on Friday, whispers bad.

677
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: I like this feels bad. I think that it's bad.

678
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: It is something good, like if you put your thumb

679
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: or something in your mouth and close it around and

680
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: just blow. It kind of opens up this up a

681
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: bit like, oh my god, rocking my world and you're

682
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: not making sound when I have too that you take

683
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: a straw and put it in a cup of water

684
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: and just blow, blow, blow bubbles. Yeah, this is Vicky.

685
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed. She has like Kimmy has,

686
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: like a little cup. It looks like a takeout cup

687
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: of a straw. Sometimes she's taking water and sometimes she's

688
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: just blowing and like, yes, but wow, that's a stage half.

689
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Very very clever, very nice. She's very smart. That one's

690
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: very smart. What's working with her? Like talk about the

691
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: legend Victoria Carr, I mean a dream come true. There

692
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: are times that I will go down and just watch

693
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: scenes I'm not in, you know, like I don't get

694
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: tired of it. I'm excited for the cast album fully

695
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: to drop. I listened to it eight times a week,

696
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: and yet I want the album to like hear more.

697
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: That's special. She is never the same, so every time

698
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: she's so alive as a performer that who knows, she

699
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: might be more playful one day, or she might be

700
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: so it is so fresh, and that's how I like

701
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: to be, is just like what's in the moment. I

702
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: don't want to like set something that is identical because

703
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: that feels stale and not alive, and so I like

704
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: to be alive and clearly some line readings that you know,

705
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: get a bigger laugh, you might give it that way,

706
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: she can more consistently and general as a whole, Like

707
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: her performance is just so lived and I don't it's magic.

708
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Like she's just a different being from

709
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: a different world. And she's the most generous actor to

710
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: share a stage with, like the way she holds for

711
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: your laugh, and she loves playing a street She's like,

712
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: I love playing the straight man. It's my faith. She's

713
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: just so generous with everything. She's like, well it'll give

714
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: you a bigger laugh if I just like with the

715
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Pine co Owner with you know, we find different rhythms

716
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: and then we've also just become like really close friends

717
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: kind of hold each other up. During this it's very difficult.

718
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: She barely leaves the stage, you know, present her sixties,

719
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: and it's like I don't know how she does that physical,

720
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: vocal and emotional journey, like to be in that because sometimes,

721
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: like I've gone through stuff where I'm like, wow, I'm

722
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: feeling a little depressed. I think I'm taking Deborah home

723
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: with me, because while she's funny, the way I operate

724
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: my the acting choices is like I'm alone in the

725
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: world and nobody has my back. And so, you know,

726
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I come into the library and I see I find Kimmy.

727
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: I wait. I wait out in the library because something

728
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: big happened, which is a reveal. I don't want to,

729
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, spoiler alert anybody, but something happened. The family

730
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: was in one town. I was a part of it,

731
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: and I fled to the woods because it was it

732
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: was a big thing. And when I came back, they'd

733
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: moved and nobody left me a note like an abandoned animal.

734
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: Like that's rough. And so I get out of my aunt.

735
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: I do never say mom and dad, so God knows

736
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: where they are. Ali and I have decided she plays Ali,

737
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Mozy plays my sister, that we have different dads, um

738
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: that I don't say parents. I don't see anyone, I say.

739
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I called aunt Helen, and she wouldn't let me stay

740
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: with her, but she told me where you moved to?

741
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: But I didn't have an address. So I have been

742
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: being out in the school library right right right, waiting

743
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: to pretending iconic choice to have her inhabit the school

744
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: library library, not like the library, public library, town, the

745
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: school library. It's so funny to me, it's so I mean,

746
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: it's so debb but like that's rough, lots of little

747
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: inventive choices like that. The show is very specific, very

748
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: it's really fun to play all that. But sometimes that's

749
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: like and so I can also it's every day, it's

750
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: every single day of your life. Yeah, And so to

751
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: watch Vicky literally be in the body of someone who's

752
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: like young, who like there's this scene in the library

753
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: where she's hanging out with the kids and they have

754
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: a song about well, real life hasn't started yet, Like

755
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: it's later, it's when we get out of Jersey, when

756
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: we go to school, when we you know, become adults,

757
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: Like right now doesn't matter, and that's her entire life

758
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: is right now. So she will never get to go

759
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: to college, she will never get to go do these

760
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: things that these kids say are the only things that matter.

761
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: And you're like, and to watch her face like kind

762
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: of take that information, like and she does that eight

763
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: times a week, like I don't. So that's why I

764
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: say she's like this magical unicorn when I struggle with

765
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: my own journey. I can't even imagine how she does that.

766
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: It's times a week. It's really like watching it. It

767
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: is such a joyous experience in the music is beautiful

768
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: and the cast is great. But I remember at the

769
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: end of Act one, I was already like sobbing. I

770
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: turned to Patrick and I was like, I'm already there

771
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: because this is this is not going to uh healthy

772
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: place for her, the character, you know what I mean like,

773
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: and he was like, he was like, girl, just wait

774
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: and then actually really delivers. But I just can't say

775
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: enough about the still leaves on an uplifting but you

776
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: don't leave being like I'm devastated. I can't get through,

777
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, you can't get more uplifting. I went

778
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: through every Yes, You're like I went through every emotion possible,

779
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: and like the of it all very cathartic. And then

780
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: you leave and you're like, oh, but I do feel

781
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: like I want to seize the day come on for

782
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Kimberly and Kimbo is. She probably went to Disney World

783
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: at the end, and then she realized she didn't book

784
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: fast passes in advance or any dinner reservations, so she

785
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: probably was reading onlines all day. I will tell you, like,

786
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: if Kimberly and Kimbo shut up to the Disney World

787
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: that I was just that I would feel released. I

788
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: hope she told someone about her rapid aging disease and

789
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: maybe they could get her and get her on some rides,

790
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: because that would be really frustrating her up front. Let her,

791
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: let her be in the front, let her be in

792
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: the first car. Spoiler alert. You do see Kimberly at

793
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Disney World at the end in some fashion, and it

794
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: is quite beautiful, and I go, oh my god, I

795
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, Like Victoria Clark is like

796
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: acting in front of a green screen, and I'm like

797
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: fully convinced that like this little girl is there like

798
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: having the time of her life. I think she had

799
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: a great time. I think Kimberly had a blast. She

800
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: absolutely had a blast. And again we only say it's

801
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: the meat, like the average life expectancy. We don't know

802
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: that she's to die this year. She'd lived to twenty now,

803
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: not past that probably, um, but like we don't know,

804
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: so like, it's not, it's not it is a fictional disease.

805
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: Because the movie Jack with Robin Williams, which I'm sure

806
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: people bring up to you each and every day, they

807
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: actually don't. And I'm surprised because immediately was like, oh,

808
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: like yeah, right, iconic film, Diane Lane, French Russia. Come on, teacher,

809
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: it is so good. I'm sure they don't want you

810
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: referencing the movie and press and stuff like this. Maybe yeah,

811
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: maybe not. Who cares come for me? I mean, it's

812
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: not the same at all, but it reminds me of

813
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Jackly I love. So get into it. Get into it.

814
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: What have you seen? Speaking of film, what have you seen?

815
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Say you're about to dive into these side screeners, but

816
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: the Oscar nomination has come out this week. We are

817
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: iconically Record on Monday. They come out tomorrow. What are

818
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: your big predictions, what are your big bold wants and

819
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: needs desires for the season. Well, I'm very behind on

820
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: my views. Um. I literally was like, oh my god,

821
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been in the world of putting

822
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: up brand new musical that helps the theaters and stay healthy.

823
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Like I haven't gone out much. The one time I

824
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: went to a theater is probably not going to be

825
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: up for Oscars, and that's sad for me because it

826
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: should win everything. Megan. Yes, I love Megan so much.

827
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: What's so funny is I was told you have to

828
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: see it in a theater with people, and I was like, okay, great.

829
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: So I went with my friends, um, who are also performers,

830
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Matt Doyle and Max Clayton. Wow that was a real

831
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: good crew. Yeah. So we got like tickets for after

832
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: all of our Thursday night shows and we went to

833
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: a ten pm showing and we get in. There's like

834
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: three people the back of the year and I was like,

835
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm feeling very nicole kidman, like we come to the theater,

836
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: like buy myself in the theater and now look to me.

837
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm so glad we're seeing this

838
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: with everyone I know. But I still was like, scream gackling.

839
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I loved this so much. It's I mean, it's it's

840
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: it is campy, but you get a sense that there's

841
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: a lot of room to grow, you know what. Megan

842
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: two point like, I know that's the SNL sketch. If

843
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: they will be called Megan two point or something, or

844
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Megan's and like there is so much places to go

845
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: with he stole the files. We know how to make

846
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: the files. What I had said the bone was don't

847
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: you think we had seen the demonstration of Megan, Like

848
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: they tease this called Megan demonstration and then we don't

849
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: really see I do wish do you wish me to?

850
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: And I wish there was more of that was an

851
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: opportunity for like a massacre a lot of people. And

852
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: when with TikTok dances, you know what I mean, Like

853
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I wanted more of that for sure because Ronnie being

854
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: like bringing more people, we need more people, more people,

855
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: more people. You're like, oh wow, a bunch of people.

856
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: They're going to kill so many people. Yeah, I love that.

857
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: I Oh, I rented to Leslie. Why everyone was talking?

858
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I was like, um, it was that Andrea what is

859
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: her last name? That's what Rice Borough? Thank you? Is incredible.

860
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: So my sleeper hope is that she gets like an

861
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Oscar No. But you know, lots of a List stars

862
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: are coming out campaigning for her and Gwyneth Paltrow. But

863
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: that's what all the trades are talking about right now,

864
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: is that there's been this last minute ground swell of

865
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: a list support for this, like real character actress who

866
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: apparently gives a performance to the year to Leslie Andrea Riseborow,

867
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: so it might happen. We'll know by the time. This

868
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: episode absolutely incredible. And also I just around Christmas watched Matilda,

869
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: which was, Oh my gosh, I love everything about it.

870
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: It was so beautiful, it was so emotional. Shanna Lynch,

871
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: I wow, wow, how do you do that? And woman

872
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: King congrats on life. Wow. Andrew Riceboro plays the mom

873
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: in Matilda, and I was like, you're giving me British

874
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Judy Greer and you're giving me to Leslie, Like, I what,

875
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: who are you? Like, She's unbelievable and she Leslie. So

876
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: that's my one hope that it will. I love seeing that.

877
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: The only reason I know about it was because all

878
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: these celebs coming up through on like my timeline. I

879
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: just kept seeing like Sarah Paulson is going so hard

880
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: for her, going so hard, and I love that that.

881
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, okay, let me see this performance. And

882
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: she's incredible, incredible. Get this. So we're in my apartment

883
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: right now where the fire arm was going off, and

884
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think this is true anymore because I don't

885
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: think that noted character actress Andrea Riseborrow would deal with this.

886
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: One day, I was in my mail room and there

887
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: was a letter to Andrew rise Borrow, and I was like,

888
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: does she live here? And this is like a few

889
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: years ago when like okay, it stopped. Maybe maybe that's

890
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: the spirit of Andrea. And no one knows where I lived,

891
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: but so I can say this, and I don't think

892
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: she lives her anymore, but she did live there at

893
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: one point. She might have because there was I mean,

894
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: who has that name? But there was like a couple

895
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: of pieces of mail addressed to her in my mail room.

896
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: When I was I was like, oh my god, because

897
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: I've known how good she was for like she's she's

898
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: so like she's somebody who I'm like, oh my god,

899
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: that woman again, Like you know, she pops up in

900
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: all these places, and she's always really solid. But like

901
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: to give me it's like her leshan A Lynch, Like

902
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: they're giving me two incredible, completely different performances. And they're

903
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: both involved in Matilda interesting um and then also I

904
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: love Woman King. I loved everybody in it. I thought

905
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I just watched Waconda Forever. What do

906
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: you think about Angela winning the prizes for that? Like

907
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: her performances major, her performances major, like one of her

908
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: speeches when she's like reading the room, like you all

909
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: need to calm down. I am the queen here. I

910
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: have lost some people like chills, the power, the restraint,

911
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: the emotion. You know, Judy Dench won an Oscar for

912
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: like an eight minute performance, like I say, give her

913
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: all the words, give her a Country Music Award. I

914
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: don't even care give him all that one scene. Yeah,

915
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: well I will be. I personally will be checking off

916
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: the Sagbucks for one Stephanie Shoe. Stephanie Shoe waited and

917
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm so We're so proud, and I literally when that happened,

918
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I texted her. I was like, look, I know that

919
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: you like Loki ha, don't like you're l O l

920
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: about this stuff, but I know it meant something to

921
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: her to be recognized by her peers. And I'm happy

922
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: and proud to be checking off that box release. Let

923
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: her get an oscar. No, she's genius in that movie.

924
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm praying. Did you guys ever worked together? We did

925
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: a reading together of who was Just at the public

926
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: Soft Power? Can you imagine the Great White Wire again.

927
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: No great white voice in Soft Power are the legend,

928
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: the legend of um No, we did stuffs. We didn't.

929
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: We were work shopping it at Sundance at mass Mocha,

930
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: so we were there for two weeks MassMOCA so we

931
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: were there for two weeks working on that together. She's

932
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 1: incredible in I love that movie. I hope that movie

933
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: squeeze everything. Michelle Yo has to win. I'm sorry something.

934
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we we are tar heads, but Michelle Yo

935
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: is our front runner. Like I haven't seen sariet I

936
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: love Cate Blanchett, but it's time. Michelle Yo always delivers.

937
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: She's a queen and I want her. Yeah. Absolutely, Wait, Bonnie,

938
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: the first time we met was at a reading for Schmikadoon, right.

939
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: I think that was the first Oh my god, I

940
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute. I was like Bonnie Milligan, like,

941
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: you were so funny. That was a great reading because

942
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: it was like Pasqually was there and um oh god,

943
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm blacking her name. She was Regina, the original Regina

944
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: and Mean Girls, Taylor Taylor Loderman, Taylor Lowderman, who I

945
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: thought was so funny and she was really funny, Emily Skinner.

946
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: Natalie wasn't there, but I'm Skinner's very fun. Jared Jane Krakowski,

947
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: very fun. It's very fun time. Brad Oscar, what are

948
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: we thinking of Chicagodon is back in Chicago? When are

949
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: you involved? I'm not involved at all, but I was.

950
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: I remember them telling me that that was the concept

951
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: for season two, like it'll be like seventies, like Candor

952
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: and Ebbs style stuff, and I was like, Oh, that's genius,

953
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: and so I'm excited to see what they do with it.

954
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: Speaking of I'm so excited to see Ris. I want

955
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: to come and see Mama Morton and I'm obsessed watching

956
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: drinks through the press rounds right now. I'm ready for it.

957
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, brilliant and uh, I know James

958
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: he Lane is playing Billy Billy Flynn Billy, thank you,

959
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see him too. He's brilliant. Did

960
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: something together at City Center UM a few years ago

961
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: and he's incredible. So well, I did see it a

962
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: few months ago with Pamela Anderson herself. So did I

963
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to experience that, yes, perfect like cookie sweet,

964
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: and then when she dropped into these like dramatic, like

965
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: grounded moments. I was like, shook. I did see Opening Nights,

966
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: so I think I saw her at like a ten.

967
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm wondering what it was like when she

968
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: finally did like drop in and find it not that

969
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: she dropped in, yeah, and she was like and then

970
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, just the realist of the real

971
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: when you wanted it. And I was like, you're giving

972
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: me layers and I'm here for it. God, we love

973
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: her a true actor truly. Have you ever seen v

974
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: I P V I P back on the day her

975
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: spy show no new Sorry, sorry sorry to this woman,

976
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: but I mean her acting and scare me. The three

977
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: in the beginning still top nuts? Okay? Are you okay?

978
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: The cow says blank three letters, dude, but that's us.

979
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: Who's who's McCarthy? We can't get into it. Who's Jenny

980
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: McCarthy out of me? And I think only Bonnie can

981
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: be the casting director here. Once Jenny McCarthy once family

982
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: Anderson Odd, Okay, Um, there's no wrong answer. I'm going

983
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: to give Pam to Bowen and I give Jenny McCarthy

984
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: to Matt. I'll take it, Okay, Okay, yeah, I'll take

985
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: it because I love the view. I love it. Oh.

986
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: By the way, we never mentioned on the pod we

987
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: did our culture catch up rest in Peace, Barbara waltersa piece.

988
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: Kicky Palmer did say rest in peace, Barbara Walters. She did,

989
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: so it was covered. I was covering no problem. But

990
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: we look ahead to the oscar nominations and UM with

991
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: that spirit in my and it actually is related to

992
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, honey. So should we transition?

993
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: We'll transition too, I don't think so, honey. Okay, this

994
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: is our one minute segment where we go off about

995
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: something in culture. Matt has something oscar Ms related. Perhaps

996
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: the thing has stopped, so it's it should it should happen?

997
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: This is Mett Rogers. I don't think so many starts new.

998
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Snubs We don't know who

999
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: had happened to but it is a fate worse than death.

1000
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: And I am with you today. We we understand that

1001
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: so many hundreds of people have been snubbed. This week

1002
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: we are iconically recording this Pop Culture UM podcast, and

1003
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: I am sounding the alarm and saying reach out to

1004
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: those that you know that we're snubbed and pat them

1005
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: on the back like a creepy woman at Kimberly and

1006
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Kimball going up to and say this is the chillis

1007
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: wag can do this my girls who are gonna be snubbed.

1008
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: I hope it's not my faves, but it has to

1009
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: hurt to work so hard for the domination to be

1010
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: on the shows, to grind the grind, and then to

1011
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: see you are snubbed. As someone who's been snubbed, I

1012
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: have to say that I'm really thinking of you and

1013
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: all my girls nominated. I'm so happy for you. I'm

1014
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: proud of you. But just please text the girls who

1015
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: were snubbed and say, hey, should have been you instead

1016
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: of me. Be kind. Be kind to those snubbed. That's

1017
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: my big thing now going forward. Be kind. That's if

1018
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: you're someone you know was snubbed, Be kind to yourself,

1019
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: be kind to others. You know. I hate that you

1020
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: called back the woman at kim really a Kimbo because

1021
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: I really wanted to cut I really want to cut it.

1022
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Why would we cut it? Because I hate that I'm

1023
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: even sharing the story to begin with, A woman came

1024
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: up to you and carressed your back into this is

1025
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: the chillest way possible I can do this to me.

1026
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: That's that we have to sell the alarm. Do not

1027
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: touch bow and Yang in a chill caressing way. Just

1028
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: don't do that to anyone, even if it's like you

1029
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: think it's your fourth grade teacher. I wouldn't go up

1030
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: and slowly caress someone and say I'm trying to be chill. God,

1031
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: my kid loves your class. It's weird, So why would

1032
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: you do that to an actual celebrity? About not I

1033
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: slowly caressed my lover. Only talk to anyone as if

1034
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: your son's fourth grade teacher. Yes, that's a really good rule.

1035
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: Miss Munson, Miss mus Munson, show some respect, I show

1036
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: us Munson in fourth grade? You did kidding? She wasn't

1037
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: my teacher, But there wasn't Miss Munson in the fourth grade.

1038
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: God way, Bowen, I also did not have Miss Munson,

1039
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: but she was a fourth grade teacher in my thing,

1040
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: my sister and Miss mus this is weird. Did you

1041
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: have Miss Sunson where she was like it's me, Miss Munson.

1042
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: And if you're not treating everyone when that you meet

1043
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: like Miss Munson like yes, hello, I have respect that

1044
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you from a distance and from a

1045
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: distance as if there was a desk between us, you know,

1046
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: so listen, I mean I'm just saying reach out, like

1047
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: be kind to those snubs. Don't caress them, but you know,

1048
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: and and this is I mean, like, well, we'll talk

1049
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: about it maybe next week, but like there's gonna be snubs.

1050
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: And that's just how Oscar Morning works. And that's part

1051
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: of the drama of it. Okay, you got Kate Blood

1052
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: chat out here saying we should stop putting performances against

1053
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: each other. And I'm like, Mama, I understand you in spirit.

1054
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: But a couple of my friends brought up like that's

1055
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the how the whole conversation about good movies even happens

1056
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: is the oscars. Otherwise we wouldn't talk about, like, you know,

1057
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: good movies at all. Would just be like all the

1058
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: big box office stuff all year, Right, I guess you

1059
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: gotta have it. Yeah, food for thought? Uh Bowe and Yang?

1060
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: Are you ready with you? I don't think so, honey. Yeah,

1061
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: I had this ready to go. But I mean the

1062
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: fire alarm going off in your apartment is sort of

1063
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: sort of has something to do with us. Okay, Well,

1064
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so funny his time starts now,

1065
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Songs with sirens in them.

1066
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: Some pop songs that have like police sirens in the

1067
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: um like at any moment. There are like I can't

1068
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: think of examples, but there is like rainy Alarm Spice.

1069
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: There's a Spice Girl song that has like sirens and him,

1070
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: and every time I listen to it, I have to

1071
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: turn off the music and go, is there a siren outside?

1072
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: Should I be worried? If? If your song is motivating

1073
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: me or any listener to press pause, then it's fail

1074
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: as a song. I'm not supposed to be taken out

1075
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: of the moment. I'm supposed to be with you for

1076
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the full length of the piece. So you got we

1077
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: gotta figure this out. There's no reason unless the song

1078
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: is about the police state that we live under, I

1079
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: don't want to hear a siren in it, Okay, So

1080
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: I think that we should just do away with this.

1081
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: And I'm so sorry for for this on a metal level,

1082
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: working against this episode because there is a fire alarm

1083
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: going off throughout Matt's audio. Not right now though, and

1084
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: that's one minute, and I heard that one of the

1085
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: big next wave of pop girliedom is going to be

1086
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: all albums about the police state. So then they're they're

1087
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: all gonna have sirens, is what you're saying. I think

1088
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: we're going to be in the siren era, but no

1089
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: bow and I hear what you're saying more metaphorical. You know, yes, yes, yes,

1090
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: post to arms called to fellow women. Yeah. Did you

1091
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: see Beyonce's performance in Dubai, Like like the all the

1092
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: clips and video from it, I have not seen all

1093
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: of them yet. I haven't seen all of them. All

1094
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: of them. I know they're I haven't seen all of them.

1095
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: I have not gotten to sit down with my pin

1096
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: and watch all of them. You got a lot to do.

1097
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: I also saw a tweet that somebody was like, I'm

1098
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: upset that. You know, Dubai has so many anti LGBT.

1099
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: That's the launch it there. Even if they gave her

1100
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: tons of money like they maybe not, well that is

1101
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Like someone was like, what do you

1102
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: think the price tag was on that? And I'm like, oh,

1103
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: how much could it be? And then we're like, oh, there,

1104
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: it's possible that she made a hundred million dollars doing it. Otherwise,

1105
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: why would you she hasn't performed in four years. But

1106
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: it's me that she didn't do any Renaissance material off

1107
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: of it, like like a performance, because then it would

1108
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: have been crazy to do it in due she did

1109
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: like a kind of a weird set list, right. It

1110
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: was for a hotel opening, like it's she It was

1111
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: very emmercial, not a fully fledged Beyonce show. I think

1112
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: the check probably paid for the Renaissance Arena tour. Great

1113
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: and great? Are you ready to belt out? And I

1114
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Yeah, you always singing it? Yeah don't, Yeah, no,

1115
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't Mind's kind of related in some ways, um

1116
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: to the idea of snubs. I'm gonna it's sort of

1117
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: in there. And this is very not seasonal. We've just

1118
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: passed Christmas, but it's about that, Okay, no problem. Well

1119
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: Christmas is Christmas is a big culture. If I've got

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: huge culture vibe, absolutely this is Bonnie Millikans. I don't

1121
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

1122
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: We don't have a diva's Christmas Carol Availa on any

1123
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: stream sites to have it saved to my iTunes? Are

1124
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: you telling me that the only Christmas movies that are classics,

1125
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: were like It's a Wonderful Life, Elf and a Christmas

1126
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: story about a kid with a gun. I don't think so, honey,

1127
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: Because I had a Scrooge that featured Vanessa Williams has

1128
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: a part of a girl group. We had an original story. Second,

1129
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna snub that. I don't think so, honey. They

1130
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: sang songs that were catchy. They gave us a new

1131
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: pop too. Yes, thank you quick. Absolutely, that's not something

1132
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 1: I can buy on iTunes. I don't think so. She's

1133
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: the best Scrooge as a side from Michael Caine and

1134
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm up at Christmas Carol. But I don't think so, honey.

1135
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: Why can't I have this always preserved? You had Kathy

1136
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Griffin is the Ghost of Christmas. You had vh ones

1137
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: behind the music as the Ghost of Christmas. That is innovative,

1138
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: That is culture. I don't think so, honey. Put it

1139
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: on iTunes and that's one minute unbelievable. I mean, let

1140
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I came into my fifth grade teacher,

1141
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: Mrs Sprague, and I was a little f a g

1142
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, did you watch a Diva's Christmas Carol?

1143
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: And she was like, no, Matthew, I didn't watch that.

1144
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: She was like, well it was. It featured Vanessa Williams

1145
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: has Ebany Scrooge, and she was like, and Chili from

1146
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: TLC Marley Jacobs her former so and then she was like,

1147
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: you have to go very dreamgirls, find a girl that

1148
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: you like put down because you wanted a better solo career,

1149
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: and you have to bring her back into the fauld.

1150
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: It's very like, bring back Effie and let her sing

1151
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: one more time. Okay, okay. Culture it is booming with.

1152
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: It was really culture. I mean like and also, did

1153
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: you ever watch a diva's christ did? But Bonnie I

1154
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, Bonnie really unlocked this for me

1155
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: because that really this is the thing now. It's like

1156
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: if it's not available, then like the memory of it

1157
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: goes away for certain people like me. Yeah, but that's

1158
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: how good the hook was that I literally remember is

1159
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: it just a hard quake? Yes? Oh my god. And

1160
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: they also gave you know, Babs did their own version

1161
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: of that with sleigh Ride, but it was like a

1162
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: weird like let's say to slay them Sicklyn ring ting

1163
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: Tan lind too. You're like, why was that like they're

1164
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: like pop group made that famous at Christmas. I'm here

1165
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: for it. Remember this is how this is how obsessed

1166
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: with it I was and how gay I was as

1167
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: a child. There was a moment in the behind the

1168
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: scenes part which is like it's true, like the Ghost

1169
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: of Christmas Future is a behind the scenes yes via

1170
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: trom behind the music episode, and they're interviewing Brian McKnight.

1171
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: He makes a joke about Maria who by the way,

1172
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: it's a Ruler culture number Brian McKnight, like a dream

1173
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: come anyway, I could never stop. But he makes a

1174
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: joke like Mariah carry like you know, like one time

1175
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Ebony's she luck Mariah out of her dressing room point

1176
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: saying had to be out there in her underwear. Luckily

1177
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: no one noticed, Like making a joke about how Mariah

1178
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: was always working. I would. I wish when we were

1179
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: done here, I could go watch a diva's Crystal you can.

1180
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna at least YouTube Church. But I bet that's

1181
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: even a flop of dead end. Dear Vanessa Williams, if

1182
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: you can hear us, get the people. She really was

1183
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: a good scrooge like she she was eat Did you

1184
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: ever encounter Vanessa Williams because I know she's one of

1185
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: the stage No, well, okay, that's a lie I have.

1186
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: We've never worked together. I'm obsessed with her. I think

1187
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: she's like the most beautiful person in the world. When

1188
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: we were putting head over heels together, I literally went

1189
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: to the producers. I was like, she should play my mom?

1190
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Can she be the can she be the queen? And

1191
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: they reached out. And I love Rachel York, I love you.

1192
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: But like they did reach out and she was not available,

1193
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, son of a But that's how

1194
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: much I love her. And recently a Broadway con, Hillary

1195
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: Secretary Secretary Madam Secretary came to the Broadway Con and

1196
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: did like a pan all with Leshawn's, Vanessa Williams, Julie White,

1197
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: and Donna Murphy. And I was also there to sing

1198
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: from Kimberly Kimbo to kick off Broadway Cotton like Hello,

1199
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: and I was right after and Shawn's is one of

1200
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: our producers, iconic Shans, And so she was talking to

1201
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: um Hillary like, well, you, this is one of our stars.

1202
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: You have to meet her. And she gave her like

1203
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: a candy necklace. We got like a photo together Vanessa

1204
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: was in the room and so we you know, I

1205
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: saw them, but I was like, again, I would fan

1206
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 1: girl too hard, I think, And there's just a lot

1207
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: of presents in that room between and I knew, like

1208
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: I knew Julie and I knew Donna, and so they

1209
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: were like the the the iconic women I knew were

1210
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, and I was like, Okay, that feels cool,

1211
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know that one. And I do love

1212
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: her Ebony Forever, Ebony Scrooge Forever. Teevi's Christmas Carol fully

1213
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: wiped away memory for me that you brought back, like God,

1214
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: you're certain and I and now I want to see

1215
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: it and they can't do it. I want to see that,

1216
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: Like who do I contact? Because it's been painting my

1217
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: side every Christmas. I'm like, well, I wish I could

1218
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: watch the best pro shot pro shot from pH one.

1219
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: God released the Snyder cut of Diva's Christmas Carol. I

1220
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: want to see four Hours Dark. I just I just

1221
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: went to the opening of Jefferson May's doing like the

1222
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: One Man Christmas Carol directed incredible, but one of the

1223
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: questions on the red carpet was like, what's your favorite

1224
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: Scrooge or something, and I was like, it's a movie

1225
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: called a Diva's Christmas Carol starring Vanessa. Absolutely great answer

1226
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: and if that interviewer knew anything worth a damn, they

1227
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't cross side and turned to Sanda. But now

1228
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: they didn't. Well listen, when does the cast album come out?

1229
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: Do we have an announcement or a day Valentine's Day? Yeah,

1230
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 1: The Kimberly A Kimball Original Broadway cast album is out

1231
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: on Valentine's which is iconically February fourteen, a love letter

1232
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: to the people. The people take it in well, it's

1233
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: an amazing show. Everyone, please go see it. You will

1234
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: not regret it. You will fall in love with everybody,

1235
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: especially Bonnie Milligan. Thank you so much for joining us

1236
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: at Belting Bonds. At Belting Bonds, um, thank you for

1237
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 1: having me. This has been so much fun and iconic

1238
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: for me. I mean, you are you are a part

1239
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: of the podcast history because of your iconic performance of

1240
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: one of the Records of the Year nominees and someone

1241
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: that inspired you from a young age. And even though

1242
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: it is firmly January and we are past Christmas, we

1243
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: did say that Christmas culture is year round culture, and

1244
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: so we finished every episode of the song Wan Christmas.

1245
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like you singing too. Here we go,

1246
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: she's on her day off. I was giving you background

1247
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: vocal around. Give us, give us about a G. No,

1248
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: I can't sing on my day off. No, your body,

1249
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: we love you so I love you, my