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Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I like stick in their mind. You texted

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Speaker 1: about that yesterday, Freddie. Normally I like to take your

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Speaker 1: texts and immediately delete those. Deuce texted Paul and I

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Speaker 1: a picture of his shrimp cocktail. I could literally taste it.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say something, I will shrimp

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Speaker 1: send thus call that something else shrimp. When I lived

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Speaker 1: at the Men's club on com Ave, who lived at

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Speaker 1: the men's club? Posters up at I think was Simmons

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Speaker 1: College was an all girls college, and I think that

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Speaker 1: I have been having a party at the men's club

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Speaker 1: so all at No. So it worked. It worked like

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Speaker 1: there was Yeah, it was a steady stream. Look up

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Speaker 1: his look up his two thousand twenty. He returned one

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Speaker 1: punt for one yard. Now not not an appros You didn't.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure you're not thinking of Braxton Barrios. Oh

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Speaker 1: that could be true. The shrimp cocktail smothered in the

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Speaker 1: cocktail sauce. Oh boy, good stuff. This is Patriot's Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by dunking so to get a little taste of

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Speaker 1: what the show was like without you last week. It's

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Speaker 1: like a tourta force of Fred. Yeah, but it sounds well.

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Speaker 1: I always anyway, turn on your mic, Eric, sorry so

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Speaker 1: and jes to uh. To follow up on the Indie

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Speaker 1: Isabella stuff, Fred and I had a class, Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: classic interaction. I was ready to text about you guys. Done.

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Speaker 1: I was, but literally I was food. I was actually

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Speaker 1: food shopping. But I was thinking it was so funny.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't wait till like an all cap. I just well, so,

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Speaker 1: so Fred, we had gone through this whole thing with

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Speaker 1: Indie Isabella. You know, Mike, I show you whether right?

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Speaker 1: So Fred, Fred was convinced that he had like a

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Speaker 1: great career as a returner and thought that would be

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Speaker 1: a huge upgrade over over gunner. You did say as

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Speaker 1: he did. I said he had a return right, You

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Speaker 1: said he was and he didn't. Okay, So he found

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Speaker 1: a long catch. I didn't find that. Somebody sent it

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Speaker 1: over all his stats eighty eight yard, you know, catch.

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Speaker 1: One of his thirty one career catches was eighty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: And but he was insisting he's a great returner, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, well he did have one part return

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Speaker 1: for one yard, he could be And then we had

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Speaker 1: a discussion about milk and the colors of the labels

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Speaker 1: to differentiate that was that was different, But that ended

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Speaker 1: up part of the text. And then like in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the morning on Sunday, text me a shot

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Speaker 1: of idy Isabella's YouTube clips eighty eight yard. I was, no,

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Speaker 1: it was the I was. I was like, that is

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Speaker 1: that's me. Fred just pulled up all like, he just

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Speaker 1: pulled up all. I was like, I mad respect for that.

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Speaker 1: I was. It starts with that. Then I took a

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Speaker 1: picture of a red cap and then he took a

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Speaker 1: picture of milk with the milk with the red cap

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Speaker 1: at the store, and Fred's I hope you and I

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Speaker 1: wrote red cap. That's right, all right, we got a

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Speaker 1: busy show, um, offseason. The league year hasn't even started yet,

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Speaker 1: but the news is coming fast and furious. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about, uh, the release of Kvin Kyle van Noy, Uh, Mike,

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Speaker 1: you had analysis of that on Patriots dot com. Um. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want to get into the Calvin Ridley situation because

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Speaker 1: it's legal in a lot of states. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, not a fair suspension one year,

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Speaker 1: what everyone thinks about that. Well, I might agree with

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Speaker 1: then uh, you know, whatever else is on people's minds.

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's a lot of rumors going around.

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Speaker 1: You've got some combine cut questions. Yeah, really dove into

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Speaker 1: that this week. Enjoyed watching Uh, I enjoyed watching it.

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Speaker 1: I did. It's like golf to me. I put it

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Speaker 1: on and nice and relaxing, but huge weekend and Indie

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of guys that blew it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I know you weren't able to go in the stadium. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I said last week, I I'm all kay. With

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Speaker 1: what are we looking for here? It's just a weird

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Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the problem. But it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it more of a like an information processing kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: like what the community because they got every guy running

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Speaker 1: but like I don't really separate. Yeah, running route and

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Speaker 1: I would like to have seen Nakill Harry do that

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Speaker 1: laying out that might have changed my opinions on the ground.

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Speaker 1: Eisen challenged Dolphin's head coach Mike McDaniel to like go

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Speaker 1: from Brian Flores to him, it's like I can't help

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Speaker 1: but look as Steven Rossby and like Brian Flora is tough,

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Speaker 1: go yeah, just amazing casually to YouTube. Just I just you.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. It's it's it's unsettling. Really, it's like a

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna lose this week, you know, or whatever

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Speaker 1: guiding the ship alot. I hope not, perhaps, but for

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Speaker 1: the sake of that franchise. But anyway, um. Another story

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Speaker 1: that will touch on today is the Aaron Rodgers breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Huge huge contract averaging around fifty million, but the guarantee

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Speaker 1: some it's like a roster bonus. Well, if you're not

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Speaker 1: becomes like an eighty million dollars cap hit. So he's

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Speaker 1: But it might have been a best It might have

425
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Speaker 1: been the best time to not do that. And then

426
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Speaker 1: we got a rookie quarterback. Yes we have the built

427
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Speaker 1: in Wow, Josh look good last year. He's coming back. Yeah,

428
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 1: you know. And then the way that a lot of

429
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: people not everybody, but the way a lot of people

430
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: talked about the team might be accurate, like they got

431
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: this young team that's building together. They didn't. They had

432
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: an old team that's sort of getting peeled apart before

433
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, before they take the next step. Certainly this

434
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: year it looks like it might have get peeled apart well,

435
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: and I listen, I will shed no tier for the

436
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: loss of Kyle van Noy, But I do wonder, you know,

437
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't really look at that as a salary cap move.

438
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: I know everybody else in the analysis did, but I

439
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: don't think so four million dollars that. I mean, I

440
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: think I think you're a little bit healthy. Right now.

441
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: They weigh the value of the player and they say

442
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: it's not worth it, right right, the value of the player.

443
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you for I'm with you one

444
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: thousand percent. If Kyle van Nooy played like Devin White,

445
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 1: he would not have gotten cut, That's right, he'd be here. Um.

446
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: The other thing, take that I was developing because you know,

447
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: I haven't long commute, so I get to develop takes.

448
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: See the other day, Yeah, and uh, you know I

449
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: heard at the combine like it might have been Albert

450
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: Brier reporting that a lot of other people around the

451
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: league are raising their eyebrow with the way Bill is,

452
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, building his staff eyebrows, you know. And then

453
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, particularly on offense. Okay, so

454
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: you know people are like, oh, you're brought back Patricia,

455
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, and you brought back, judge, and they stunk

456
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: as head coaches. Okay they did. Their first time around

457
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: as a head coach was terrible. But to me, if

458
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: you've been a head coach in the NFL, anything you

459
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: do below that becomes easy. You know, like if you

460
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: go from head coach to being a coordinator or whatever,

461
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: that's easy compared to what you just went through. And

462
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: so right now, never done that. You know, we're assuming

463
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: that the Patriots that Patricia's going to be coaching again.

464
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: That's at least what I'm hearing, is that what you're

465
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: hearing were you're talking to do so now, So now

466
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots have two former head coaches on their offensive staff. Right,

467
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. I think that experience

468
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: that they had that they're now taking back to the

469
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: Patriots to help can it can be and and I

470
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: think it has a better chance to be a bad thing.

471
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: And on top of that, we're talking about coaching football. Okay,

472
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: we're not talking about we're asking them to do brain surgery. Okay,

473
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: we're asking them to coach football players. Now, obviously there

474
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: are different levels of coaching. There's good coaches and they're

475
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: bad coaches. But I contend that the experience that you

476
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: get from being a head coach in the NFL is unmatched.

477
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: It's it's obviously the highest thing, and anything after that

478
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: becomes easy. I see where you're going, though, because like

479
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: when Josh went to Denver, yep, remember he was still

480
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: very young at that time. It was it didn't last long,

481
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: it was barely a year and a half. But when

482
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: he came back to Foxborough, there was a noticeable difference

483
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Speaker 1: in the way Bill kind of interacted with him on

484
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Speaker 1: the football field. Yeah, and you're right. I think in

485
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: that respect, some guys can take that experience and learn

486
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Speaker 1: from it and say, you know what, Yeah, I know

487
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: what I did wrong, and I'm a better coach now

488
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: because of the mistakes that I made. I can you know.

489
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: And I think in Josh's case, we'll see how it

490
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: works out in Las Vegas. But I think it worked

491
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: for him, and I think he took obviously took a

492
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: sweet time getting his next gig. But with Patricia and

493
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: but but Josh went right back to what he knew

494
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: he was offensive coordinator head coach, then went back to

495
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator QBS whatever. I don't know what these guys

496
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: are doing. Yeah, that's that's the only difference. It's like, theoretically,

497
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: you're right where being a head coach now everything else

498
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: should be like, oh, it's less responsibility. It's a little

499
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: bit of a you know, just what are they coaching?

500
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: What are they coach? Be honest with yourself and just say, like,

501
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: if Josh McDaniels was just leaving Denver right now and

502
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: they were hiring him to be the defensive assistant, how

503
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: would you feel Josh McDaniels. Yeah, if that's the equipment,

504
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: that's the equivalent of what they're doing. Josh McDaniels coming

505
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: off of Denver being hired as a defensive assistant is

506
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with Joe Judge. No, Judges coached offense

507
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: before Fred. He was a special coaches one year he

508
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: was he had one years wide receivers coaches in special

509
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: teams coordinate. Right, he's a special teams coorder. And I

510
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: think that he also played offense when he actually played right. Uh. No,

511
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: I like, again, it's football. I don't remember. It's football played. Okay,

512
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: So if it doesn't matter, then what are we doing? No?

513
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: I just think it doesn't matter what these guys are doing.

514
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: I think everyone everyone is like, oh my god, these

515
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: guys were bad head coaches. That means they're gonna be

516
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: bad coaches. But not only not only they were bad

517
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: head coaches, for they have no experience doing what they're doing.

518
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: But they were good coaches. But but my birthday, Yeah,

519
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Patricia was a good coach. That's why he raised up

520
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: the ranks to eventually become defensive. Course, I think he

521
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: was well liked by his players. We saw that, Oh

522
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: he know, really well liked by his players. Here I'm thinking,

523
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: and did anyone have problems with Joe Judges, the special

524
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: teams coordinator? No? But I think I think the point

525
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: here Fred is like I would have no problem if

526
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: those guys were hired to do that. They're not right, Like,

527
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: we we know that Matt Patricia can coach defense, we

528
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Joe Judge can coach special teams, both of them at

529
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: a pretty high level. We don't know what they're doing now,

530
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: what they're being asked to do now, so there's a

531
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a uncertain thing. I would also say,

532
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: from a mental standpoint, it worries me to have two

533
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: former head coaches working together who I don't know what

534
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: their goal is. Do they want to get back to

535
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: be head coaches asap or they therefore possibly Patricia wants

536
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm going to do this right. It'll

537
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: make me look like I don't like that. There's nothing

538
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: about the dynamic. I like nothing. They don't have experience

539
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: on offense. They don't have experienced calling plays. They're two

540
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: failed formers who might be I don't know. That's why

541
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I said. I said, I don't know. I don't like

542
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: anything about the situation. Yeah, and if it's just football

543
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: that I don't know what We've wasted the last twenty

544
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: five years talking about this stuff in great detail, and

545
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't matter. We're told that Bill makes

546
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: it very clear to his players what their job is.

547
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: That's one of his strengths is players, tell us, you

548
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: know what your job is on Sunday. I can't imagine

549
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't do the same thing with the coaches. And

550
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I think that you know, we don't know, but I'm

551
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: sure if he hasn't already, he will make it perfectly

552
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: clear to Joe Judge and to Matt Patricia what their

553
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: role is going to be on offense. And part of

554
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: it might be to support this. Nick Caylee guy because

555
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: he's going to eventually be my offensive coordinator. So your

556
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: job here is to support this guy in his development.

557
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think having two head former head coaches

558
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: supporting you as long as everybody knows to Paul's point,

559
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: you don't want people just, you know, working against each other.

560
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: As long as everyone's on the same page. I think

561
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: that could be a benefit to this team. It could.

562
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I agree that it could, but I think I share

563
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: the concern that Paul has with Okay, when Josh came back,

564
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: it was one guy on your assistant staff who was

565
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: a former head coach and you had a long standing

566
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: relationship with you know him. Now you've got two guys.

567
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: How did these two guys compete with each each other internally?

568
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 1: With with like I was a head coaching. Yeah, well

569
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: I was a head coach too, So I like doing

570
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: it this work? Well, I like doing it this Like,

571
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: we don't know how that's gonna work. Like, did everybody

572
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: think the year after Patricia left went defensively? Like was

573
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: that twenty eighteen? Yeah, I'm not going to rewrite history

574
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: and pretend that everything is great like that. Everybody loves

575
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia when he was the defensive coordinator here, they didn't,

576
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: and then when Brian Flores took over the next year,

577
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: things changed dramatically for the better. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

578
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, Paul style. How do you feel

579
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: about the deep Patriots defense right now going in the

580
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: next year? Worried as hell? Because so fair to say

581
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: the important thing right now is an offense that takes

582
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: a step forward, an offense that produces points, maybe more

583
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: than they should. You know, I always think that, but yeah, yeah,

584
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the dynamic. And I think I've

585
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: flirted with these things, and I think that, you know,

586
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge, You're right, like they just

587
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: they get a lot of hate because of what happened there.

588
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: I also agree with Paul's points that sometimes when they

589
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: were here it was hit or miss with the fans too,

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: But I just look at it. The most important thing

591
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: to me right now is developing Mac Jones and finding

592
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: out if he's the guy and putting Pete, putting him

593
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: in a position to succeed. I agree, And there's nothing

594
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: right now about the setup that's making me think that

595
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to have a cutting edge offense.

596
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna, you know, somehow evolve into something new, you know.

597
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: So that's my concern that that, you know, and maybe

598
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Nick Killy is a creative young mind, and maybe he

599
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: can be nurtured by these former head coaches who have

600
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: done it all and have experience. But at the same time,

601
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm and I don't want to sit listen, I'm not

602
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: going to sit here and tell you that this can't work,

603
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: this is doomed. It's just it's just an uncertainty. It's

604
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: not doomed. Nobody knows, right, no, But what I'm saying

605
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: is I don't want like but the like the block

606
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: police doesn't have to come out if they end up,

607
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, Mac Jones ends up being a really good

608
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: player and he and he continues his development in year two.

609
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: I think that will speak a hell of a lot

610
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: more about Mac Jones than it will about Joe freaking Judge. Well,

611
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: what about I was reading some things yesterday, some of

612
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: our colleagues speculating that Bill might be the offensive coordinator.

613
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Someone even threw that out there. What do we think

614
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: about that? Which he has done in the past. By

615
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: the way, in Cleveland, right right, he did like full

616
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: time he's calling every play. He called the place in

617
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: Cleveland for and never a time. I don't know exactly

618
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: why I'd be surprised if that happens. But if it does,

619
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: then that tells then we must think that the defense

620
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: is all set, Like he doesn't have to worry about

621
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the defense, you know, Well, well, I don't know, or

622
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: does it tell you I'm more worried about? Yes, why

623
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: can't it just be a panic move? Like why does

624
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: it have to say? Well, that means that he's all

625
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: set with his defense, Like you automatically go to something

626
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: that's really good. He might have to pray, oh he might.

627
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: Why is that going too something that's good? Could you

628
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: say that means he thinks that the defense is all set? Right?

629
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 1: That mean he thinks that he might? It might mean

630
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: that both train wreck, but that's one less of a

631
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: train has to prioritize. This fire is bigger than that fire.

632
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I gotta put this one out. That's what it could mean.

633
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean, And it's also you're talking about we've seen,

634
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, the kind of Steve Belichick to Rob Mayocambo

635
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now. Now it's without maybe

636
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Kyle van Nooy, without Dante High Tower without these veteran

637
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: voices who I'm sure maybe maybe Devin mccordy, who have

638
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: been there and who are as much coaches probably in

639
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: the room as those guys are. So you know they're

640
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: going to have something new and difficult to deal with

641
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: this year. And those are not even like talking about

642
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They're specific position groups like you know, I

643
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: mean Steve Belichick's outside corner. He's got Matthew Judon right now,

644
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have to coach those guys up. Gerard.

645
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I mean he could have a full turnover in the

646
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: inside too. I know they work together, but I think

647
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's gonna have a lot of challenges, and I

648
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: think it'll be you know, and in some extent, I

649
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: think Bill is always liked a small staff, and I

650
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: think this is going to be somewhat seeming like an

651
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: experiment of like you said, could a handful of very

652
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: experienced coaches and just a small handful of assistance make

653
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: it work. I mean they don't have a small staff.

654
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: He needs a wartime Constelli. Right now, I will say that,

655
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to get back to Mike's thing

656
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: about you know who knows what Nick Kayley, And that's

657
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: the part of the equation that I That is why

658
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, like, I'm not telling you this is doomed

659
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: to fail. Maybe Nick Kayley is the next Josh McDaniels,

660
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: because I think they're in very similar spots in their

661
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: careers when they sort of ascended to a bigger role

662
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: within the office, right, And so maybe Nick Cayley is

663
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: a bright young coaching star and that's the way it's

664
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: going to work out. Yeah, I don't dismiss that as

665
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: a possibility. I do dismiss as a possibility that it's

666
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: a good thing that you have two coaches that have

667
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: spent very little to no time on offense as failed

668
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: head coaches are now part of your equation and offense.

669
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: If that works, it works, it's fine. It's very not

670
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: a good thing. I think it's very similar to the

671
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: situation they have with some of these young defensive players.

672
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Where are you going? You're going? Like last year they

673
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: went with the veterans that they kind of knew what

674
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: they could get out of them, instead of the young

675
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: guys that they didn't. Now, it seems like they're going

676
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: with the coaches that they know about in It's a

677
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: similar kind of dynamic, where like, what do we do

678
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: do we give these these young coaches like the go

679
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: ahead and because they got to get experienced somehow. I

680
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: also thought the the Indie dynamic works into this too.

681
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you read last week fred

682
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: from stuff around, but there were a lot of um

683
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Nick Cayley bright, young coaching star kind of story stories

684
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: circulating Indie last week. Well, what was happening in Indie

685
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: last week? The combine and what happens at night in

686
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: the combine? Oh yeah, people go drink ye ye ye

687
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: yea yea. So Hey, Albert brere Hey, Andrew Callahan his

688
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: one don't sleep on Nick Kayley. Now, like this is

689
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: what happened, This is how it works, And all of

690
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: a sudden there's four or five stories Mike might wrong.

691
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: Nick Kayley was the subject of a lot of different

692
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: stories last week out of nowhere. This is what this

693
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: is the narrative they're trying to sort of promote so

694
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: or Joe is you know is are they going to

695
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: roll Joe Judge out on Tuesday to interview you know,

696
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: as the audience. You know he does that? That did

697
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see how that works

698
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: out if they I mean my guess as they put Patricia,

699
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: because he was like master class at saying nothing. Oh yeah,

700
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: and that's the way Bill likes it. Yeah, almost better

701
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: than Bill, Yeah, or better, depending on your definition of

702
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: better holistically. Yeah. Um, well, that's probably a good segue

703
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: to the other thing I pulled, which I thought this

704
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: was interesting. I just more of a more of a

705
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: topic via our our friend Greg badard Um in this quote,

706
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: just about mac row Um, and they were talking about

707
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: interesting decision to promote him as you know, somebody who's

708
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: been on the college side but hasn't really done pro personnel.

709
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: And you know that this on the pro side, you're

710
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: not dealing with free agency figuring that out. You're dealing

711
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: with agents for your own Free agents pays players basically

712
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: year round. There's cap to figure out extensions to prioritize um.

713
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: You know they mentioned Elliot Wolfe was there and you

714
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: know has done some of that stuff as a GM finalist.

715
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: So I thought it was kind of interesting and and

716
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: maybe I'm reading too much into it. That's a good thing, right, Um, No,

717
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good thing. But you know,

718
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: should always read too much. Do you think that that

719
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: signals something about the fact that overall there they've kind

720
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: of signed a bunch of free agents last year, it's

721
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna be light year this year. But maybe this

722
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: is more mac Row knows the rookies. Maybe he's maybe

723
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: this is also a nod to the perhaps a job

724
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: that he did last year with the draft class, but

725
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: that maybe this is a signal that we're gonna be

726
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: focusing on the guys we have the draft, the young team.

727
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: This is a rebuild, so we don't you know, we're

728
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 1: not going to be as as reliant to him on Yeah,

729
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: all right, I'm trying. I'm sorry saying I'm just no, no,

730
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't teach me. Oh why what you're saying is

731
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for him to grow. I'm not. I mean,

732
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting point that I'm not overly

733
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: concerned with the whole Matt grow because I think Bill

734
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: Belichick is that guy. Bill Belichick is the GM he

735
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: was before then he is now. I like, I'm not

736
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: overly concerned with Matt grow over. Elliot Wolf. I know

737
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: some people around my show Freddie, they they've they've been

738
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: big on that, like, you know, it makes no sense,

739
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: but you know, like what do they know? Because it's

740
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: just another example of him hiring one of his buddy's

741
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: friends sons, one of his friend's sons. Yeah. Um, but

742
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: Elliott Wolf is awesome, not the same. He never worked

743
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: for Ron Wolf. Um. So I'm not, as you know,

744
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm not, as you know, upset about mac Row as

745
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: some other people are. But I'm not also going to

746
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: take it like, oh, this is an indication I don't

747
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: necessarily I think Mike is right about what their plan

748
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: for this off season is going to be is probably

749
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: to see if they can retain maybe a Harrison Brown, um,

750
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe mccordy um somehow um. But probably

751
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: a lower key off season in terms of splash. But

752
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: not because mac Row is the guy in charge. And

753
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I certainly don't think Bill Belichick of all people, has

754
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: given mac rowe credit for the draft last year. Bill

755
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick gets credit for the draft last It was

756
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: more of a collaborative and rightly so I've said that

757
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: before the draft, I said it during the draft, and

758
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: I'll continue to say it. Bill Belichick gets credit when

759
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the draft picks hit. It is I agree Bill. Bill

760
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: Belichick deserves the credit when he has a good draft,

761
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: just like people have given him some static, not many people,

762
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: but some some static when many when he's missed on

763
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: you listen to this show. Well, outside this show, I

764
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: think he's talking about Fred. We're we're the hardcore fans.

765
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: We're in, We're impartial, We're we're I mean, we're for

766
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: the most part unbiased. You not withstand Yes? All right,

767
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: lot lots to talk about. UM. I do the Calvin

768
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Ridley thing. I want to get into that, UM just

769
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: to get everyone's opinion. In my opinion, it's a rule

770
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: you don't gamble on the NFL. But you know, I

771
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: think gable period. Yeah, I don't think. I think the

772
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: rule of sports especially but you don't. And I think

773
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: that I think. I'm not saying you should be banned

774
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: for life, but it should be really harsh. And I

775
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: think one season is minimal. Like look at what Calvin

776
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Ridley was thus times, you know, from a thousand percent

777
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: with you, Yeah, Calvin Ridley bet on the NFL. In fact,

778
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: he bet on his own team. Was this The first

779
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: thing I thought of when I saw this news was

780
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: was that the personal issue he was dealing with we

781
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know, that's see. I still think that even though

782
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: they went to great links to paint a timetable that

783
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: he was away from the team in November when it

784
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: happened he might like not buying, that might have been

785
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: when he's when he did the things that he's been

786
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: suspended for. But was that one of the reasons why

787
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: he had was having personal problems? That's my feeling. Yeah,

788
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: that was the first thing I thought of. Yeah, you know,

789
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: nobody knows that. But the whole thing about you know

790
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: it was a one time thing, isn't a way it

791
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: was a one time thing. Yeah, I find that hard

792
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: to leave. So and I think I'm like, like the

793
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: NFL always does, they don't always release all the info. No,

794
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: I probably imagine that we know they probably have more

795
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: on him than they're letting, probably, and they don't want

796
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: it out there because they don't want it known that

797
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: one of their players while he was playing, was betting

798
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: on games. They don't want that info out. I also

799
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe considering like, let's say I

800
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: don't know what the personal issue could have been, but

801
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: let's say it wasn't that it was something like even

802
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: more distressing. It's the first thing like on your mind

803
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: that you want to do. Was like, oh man, I'm

804
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: having said this is such a horrible thing. Let me

805
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: bet on a game that'll make me feel better, you

806
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that that just doesn't well,

807
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: they say that a lot of athletes they the action,

808
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, they have that you know, competitive thing and something.

809
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan's a good example. You know, he would,

810
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: he would. He was a huge gam he was, and

811
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: it was a way for him to release that energy

812
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: that that competitive. But his family wasn't. Like he wasn't

813
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: betting on bulls games, betting not everything I don't know,

814
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: not not that we know of. But he was like

815
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: he was going to cast in Vegas and dropped tens

816
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars, not like playing like table games.

817
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: He was convinced that was his whole like year and

818
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: a half away from a lot of people. A lot

819
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: of people will say that that it was a kind

820
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: of an agreement between him and Stern at the time,

821
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: take some time off because you've been betting on sports.

822
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: What was the game he was playing with? Like the

823
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: locker room attendant in that in that documentary, right that. Yeah,

824
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: like I saw the quarter of the wall. Yeah, everything,

825
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: everything was gambling with him, you know. So I'm not

826
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: surprised my originals, that's how I go. So that's why

827
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of was like, Okay, he's

828
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: got a gambling problem and he had to step away

829
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: from the you know, or the league has dirt on him,

830
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: you know. Maybe yeah, now I know there. I was

831
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: a little surprised with how many people, like, all right,

832
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: we all know the elephant in the room is the

833
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: all the professional sports leagues, but none more so than

834
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they're now embracing legalized gambling and they're

835
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: in you know, every you know, we have one here.

836
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: We have a Draft king suite, right, yeah, um, draft

837
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: whatever it's it's called Raft Kings. No, but what what

838
00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: what we have allion a sweet I wanted him name

839
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: it by the actual name so or whatever. And everybody does,

840
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody around the league has this now. So

841
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: I understand that there's a hypocritical nature to that on

842
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: its surface, I don't really find it that way. I don't.

843
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't think because the leagues are saying something that

844
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: is legal, you know, and they're encouraging you to do

845
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: it and they're making corporate sponsorship money off of it,

846
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: means they're embracing your players now gambling, right. I don't

847
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: think that one plus one equals too in this situation,

848
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: I said to Mike, I kind of equate it. Like, Okay,

849
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: so the NFL has all kinds of advertising money through beer, right,

850
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: but you know, but whatever does that mean that the

851
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: players should be able to drink during the games too,

852
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: like without any repercussions, Like, I don't really understand why.

853
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Because you're getting corporate sponsorship dollars from a particular business

854
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: means that that business should, you know, just be widely

855
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: accepted that you can do it. Well, the rule is

856
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: you can't, and it makes It's a simple one. It

857
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, you know, whether or not you

858
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: believe that they actually do it in practice, the integrity

859
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: of the game is paramount, you know. And don't you

860
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: see like how easy it is? Like everybody says, well,

861
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: he you know, you know, yes, I think he said

862
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: he had some parlays and he bet on the falcon,

863
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: So like, what's the big harm? You know, it's fifteen

864
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: hundred dollars whatever it was, Isn't it pretty simple? To

865
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: see that, like a guy could, like really with the

866
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: utmost integrity bet on a game and lose, and then

867
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: bet on another game again. I'm playing a thousand percent

868
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: to win, right. I have told nobody, so no one

869
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: knows that I have money on this game. I'm betting too,

870
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm playing to win and I'm betting, but I'm losing

871
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: my bets, and all of a sudden you get to

872
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: a point where you got to make it up. I'm

873
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: like three million in the hole. Yeah, i gotta find

874
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: a way to do this. And then maybe you go

875
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: out and again you don't have to tell anybody, right,

876
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: and you go out and you put three million on

877
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: game on the other team. Yeah, And what's the only

878
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: way I have to guarantee that I'm well, I'm gonna

879
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: go out my way and make sure you do it.

880
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: Or you do a prop that Calvin Ridley is gonna

881
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: have over under eight catches and you make sure it's

882
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: under perfect. You bet the under perfect Freddie. You know

883
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: a great example because everybody just looks at it black

884
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: and white, like one guy, I'm gonna throw the game.

885
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: That's a perfect example. The micro prop bets you have

886
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: control over if you're a player. So that's it's it's

887
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: very easy to me to make that correlation. That's why

888
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: you can't do it. Yeah, that's why you can't. Can't player.

889
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: It also would be just anathema to me if I

890
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: were a player and I was intentionally not playing my best,

891
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: like knowing how competitive these guys are talking about, like

892
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: Jordan the example, like how Brady ultra competitive? Could you

893
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: see them like intentionally not playing well? Like it would

894
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: go against everything like in the athletes, um, you know psychology, Yeah,

895
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: like wired to do that. It just seems I'm not

896
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: saying they don't do it, but I have example, if

897
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: you're desperate, it just seems you know, money, money, Yeah,

898
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: I know, I just I couldn't fathom doing it. It's

899
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: my point, like like you're wide opening the end zone,

900
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the past is coming your way, and yeah, like Spike,

901
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: it just don't do it. Like remember Brandon Marshall at

902
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: the when Josh was head coached there at that practice

903
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: when he was intentionally so a lot of people are

904
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: really you know, because he wanted to get traded. Making

905
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: fun of the NFL for the response to this. And

906
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: there's two things now that came up in the last

907
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and one was the Michigan coach Juwan Howard,

908
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Michigan basketball coach who punched a guy from Wiscon, an

909
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: assistant coach in Wisconsin going through the handshake lines. The

910
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: response to that, why would do handshake lines? Right, Like,

911
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand why we can't have rules civil after game,

912
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, so why shouldn't? And I ended up Christian Fourier,

913
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: a former Patriot player who I love, by the way,

914
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: was adamant, like, why shouldn't he be allowed to put

915
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: some money on a game? It's not you know, what's

916
00:44:54,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: the harm? Why is suddenly? And I think in our

917
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: society today, the solution for rules being broken is to

918
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: change the rule instead of to adhere to it. Right,

919
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: But you can't take it. You can't go through a

920
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: handshake line at the end of a game that you're

921
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: pissed off yet the other team without throwing a punch

922
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: at somebody. And the solution to that, let's not have

923
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: handshake rights anymore because we can't. We can't control I

924
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: can't control ourselves. I mean, like, it's ridiculous, you know, Like,

925
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: and I hear a lot of people say like what

926
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars on a on a falcon say, it's like,

927
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, it's like going, you know, fifty six and

928
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: a fifty five. If you win fifty six and a

929
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: fifty five and got caught in the in the response

930
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: was you do jail time. You'd never go fifty six. Yeah,

931
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: you'd never go fifty six. So it's not the same thing.

932
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: The penalty for gambling in sports. As you said, Fred,

933
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: I think he got off a little lightly. Yeah, with

934
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: only a year suspension. Now it is indefinite. But they said,

935
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: at least us we all have to sign a thing

936
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: that we're not going to take. We had to take

937
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: a class, we had to take an online right training,

938
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: less training, letting you know. And I know we do

939
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: the picks, but it's just for fun. We don't right,

940
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: it's not money. We don't like that. I was talking

941
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: to Douce. You know, I'm gonna be out the NCAA pools.

942
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: It's coming up, you know. I love that. Yeah, And

943
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: I was sort of talking to do so I was like,

944
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: I love like I get together with a bunch of

945
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: guys and they all put, you know, real small money.

946
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: I won't do it. I won't do it's certainly not

947
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: going to do it on my phone, you know, like

948
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: you can't do it. It can't because it's not allowed, right,

949
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: and it's not That's not something to me that's worth

950
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: losing my job over, you know, and like, oh, we

951
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: should ban you know, sexy outfits on women because men

952
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: can't control themselves. You know, it's ridiculous, you know, but

953
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. You know, it's like, oh, we

954
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I can't control myself, so you have to stop what

955
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: you're doing, right, you know. Yeah, it's a he's not

956
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: coming to the Patriots. Yeah, bottom line, he's not coming

957
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: to bottom line, which I don't understand how he became

958
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: a lock Patriot in the first place. But bottom line,

959
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: he's see he's good returns, you know, he was here's

960
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. We're cutting linebackers, you know, to save four

961
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: million dollars, but we're gonna go and make a trade

962
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: for an eleven million dollars receiver. I mean, I just

963
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: don't like Christian Fourier, Like I want to say he

964
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: should know better, but apparently he doesn't. I don't understand

965
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: how athletes, so I don't understand that. I mean, it's

966
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: more prevalent than we think it might be. I mean,

967
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: I think they got to think about it the way

968
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Paul laid it out, where in and of itself, one

969
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: little bet on a game over a weekend is nothing

970
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: but the slippery slope kind of of it all. And

971
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: it's easy for people to get addicted to gambling. I mean,

972
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: we know that there are like silly bets with like

973
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, Alma mater rivalries where like, oh, yeah, you

974
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: know Brady loss to Hoyer, He's got to wear his

975
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: Michigan State jersey at the press conference. So like, if

976
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: they're doing that kind of stuff, it's not that much

977
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: of a leap to think that they're going a little

978
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: bit further. Yeah, for other games, it's on their mind. Yeah,

979
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia game. Like I remember there was a game

980
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: when Drew was still here that you know, at the

981
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: end of the year, him and lawyer always had the

982
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: bet on the Apple Cup Washington Washington State, and the

983
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Patriots had just won a game and it wasn't an

984
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: overly impressive performance. I forget the actual game, but he

985
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: had he came out, he came out and he said, well,

986
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, in Washington State lost to Washington and he

987
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: had a you know, I think he had a Washington

988
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: had on and he said, well, at least we covered

989
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: the spread. And there was a reporter next to me

990
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: from the Herald, Jim Jim Baker, remember Jim Baker. Fred

991
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: he like his ears pricked up, he went ballistic and

992
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: he's a Polly Polly Did he just say that? Like

993
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: he thought they were talking about the Patriots game and

994
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: the spread and an NFL player was talking about the

995
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: spreads and that was a big day And I was like, no, no, no, no,

996
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: he saved they lost. You saw that? Yeah, well that

997
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: was my job. That was my job. But just like

998
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: the reaction to its like is he talking about spreads

999
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Yeah, I listen. It's it's the integrity

1000
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: of the game. And you know even if you if

1001
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: you okay, yeah, the league is cozying up to gambling.

1002
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: It absolutely is. But you're not going to help gamblers

1003
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: if they don't think that the league the games are

1004
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: on the up and up, Like you're not gonna want

1005
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: to gamble on something that you think is fixed. Yeah,

1006
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, right, and that's the part that they can't

1007
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: ever lose, right, You can't lose, right, and this is

1008
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: why she los that Stephen Ross thing is far from over.

1009
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I saw, yeah, Well, they're not going to do anything

1010
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: to him. We'll see they should they have if they

1011
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: have to get proof now, right and and probably more

1012
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: importantly as someone else is probably going to have to

1013
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: find proof because I do not put it past the

1014
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: NFL to bury it. Right, But if if, if Brian

1015
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: Flores can get proof and make it public, much like

1016
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: he made it public with the lawsuit in the first place. Ye,

1017
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross is going to be forced to sell his team.

1018
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I think so, right, if they can, if Brian Flores

1019
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: can prove that they they asked if they wanted him

1020
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: to intentionally lose games. I'm not talking tanking. I'm talking

1021
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I want you to intentionally lose, right, that's you don't

1022
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: deserve to own a team. He's not going to be

1023
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: able to keep his team. And that was another one

1024
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: that was all over the place yesterday. Were you guys

1025
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: aware this was not not really but this was on

1026
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk this morning. Was just that NFL players

1027
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: can bet on sports other than NFL football. Um, I

1028
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys were aware of other sports can't. Yeah,

1029
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: it just says all NFL personnel other than players are

1030
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: further prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating bets on any way.

1031
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: Can you say that? Yeah, say that again. All NFL

1032
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: personnel other than players are further prohibited from placing, soliciting,

1033
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: or facilitating that on any other profession. Now that makes

1034
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: no sense to me. I can't. I can't bet on

1035
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. But but they can. Yeah, that doesn't

1036
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley can yea, that doesn't make sense. Yeah, and

1037
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: I know from talking to Louie yet. I mean listening

1038
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: to Louie yesterday, lou Malone, you played for the Red

1039
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: Sox um they had a couple of different occasions where

1040
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: they got in trouble, Like they had a bracket pool

1041
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: up in the clubhouse. They got in trouble for March Madness. Yeah,

1042
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: and they had to they had to eliminate that stuff.

1043
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: So they can't bet on anything in the Major League

1044
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: Baseball unless unless that's changed with you know, subsequent cbas

1045
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: on whatnot? All right? Five five pass five hundred is

1046
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: the ACE ticket hot line, web radio at pages dot

1047
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: com is email dress. I think we set the table

1048
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: nicely lots on there. So let's start off with Bill

1049
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: and DC on the ACE Ticket hot line. What's up Bill,

1050
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Hey Jens, I have a game for you right now. Excellent,

1051
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: love it so and topical stuff, but this has me

1052
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: a fun thing real quick second Patriots. So you know, like,

1053
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: maybe Seymour is the greatest defensive linement of all time.

1054
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Who's the second greatest? Is the Julist Adams? That kind

1055
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: of thing. So I wanted to ask for defensive line,

1056
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: for linebacker, for secondary linebacker, the second best, yes, second best, second,

1057
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: second best linebacker for everything, Willie probably Steve Nelson, second

1058
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: best linebacker, second best defensive back, second best. I have

1059
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: to really think Hi Law would be second best defensive

1060
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: back behind Mike Hanes. Okay, who's third, Gilmore, Gilly Luck. Well,

1061
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: we're not doing third, all right, Yeah, but we're not

1062
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: doing that. Yang second best offensive lineman behind Hannah Matt Light, Logan,

1063
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: Logan Mankins, No, Logan, Megan Mankins is a good one.

1064
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah Logan second best offense defensive lineman behind Seymour,

1065
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Vince Vince maybe Will four that's not a bad one. Yeah, yeah,

1066
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: uh second best behind second Will Yeah. I would have

1067
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: gone Steve Nelson, but he had a lot of tackles

1068
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: but a lot of interceptions. Yeah, I didn't see him

1069
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: play as much. I put Willie in that conversation. Yeah,

1070
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: I was. I was always underwhelmed by Willie's play too.

1071
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Don Blackman, I was just gonna say, Don Blackman, Paul,

1072
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah. How about well, who's your

1073
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: best safety McCurdy or was it Rodney fred maryan fred

1074
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: maryon Rodney? Yeah yeah, put Rodney up there over mccordy. Yeah, yeah, Okay,

1075
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: So then mccordy is your second or fred Mary is

1076
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: your second? Right? Yeah? Maybe it was your second best

1077
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: kicker behind big kick Nick Well, I think would be

1078
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: a really powerful kick. Those are the best two kickers.

1079
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: And what about wide receiver? Who's number one? Stanley Morgan?

1080
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: Stanley Morgan's number one? Yoh, Randy moss Man does he

1081
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: he gets into the conversation number two? Or is welcome

1082
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: number two? Or Edelman number two? Yeah? How about running

1083
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: back Sam Cunningham Curtis umber Smart would be one? And

1084
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: I would say, here's we have to decide right longevity right?

1085
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: Is Corey Dylon right? Or is Sam Cunningham yea, I'd

1086
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: probably say Sam Cunningham, Jim Dance. Yeah, it's giving the longevity.

1087
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: I know Dylan set the record, but I would I

1088
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: would go with Sam Cunningham. That's kind of similar to

1089
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Moss with all right, good good game, Yeah, good games

1090
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: one tight Endron Ben Coates, Yeah, I would bake it Francis,

1091
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: but I would probably say that Fred's get it right

1092
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: and Ben. Yeah, Francis. I think if Francis had more drive,

1093
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: drive and focus, I think he could have been maybe

1094
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: even better than Gronk. And we're Francis his best years

1095
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: here or elsewhere? Here here? Yeah, yeah, he was. He

1096
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: was doing it when no one else was doing I

1097
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: know he was in Was he in San Francisco? Yeah,

1098
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: that's where he won. Yeah, he won a title there.

1099
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: But he was, he was, he was. He was just

1100
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: a goofball, yeah, yeah, real goof average per catch was off.

1101
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: The not that Gronk wasn't. Different type of different era

1102
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: to funny good one funny set up Belichick had when

1103
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: he was out there with like the team. You ever

1104
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: see that footage where he came after practice and there

1105
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: was a picture of him on the side and and

1106
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: Bill was kind of I can't say it on the

1107
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: radio how he used to describe him. But it's like

1108
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: this m he had to deal with him like that guy.

1109
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: How about the second best coach, Bill Belichick? Oh what

1110
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: he looked out? You know what? I could make the

1111
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: argument Chucks Fairbanks too. Yeah, that's why shut up? Shut

1112
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: up you you Todds in North Carolina? What's up? Todd

1113
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: Doom prophesized doom for the team? Oh you and everybody

1114
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: else on Paul's stations multiples. Yes, I think it's going

1115
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: to be a step back because I think they're going

1116
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: to have to rejigger things and figure stuff about do

1117
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: a youth movement now. I do have a couple of

1118
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: questions that kind of related to that. So when Mayo

1119
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: came out last year and stated that he wanted the

1120
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: veteran linebackers because he could, you know, see it, there

1121
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: were so much better tools and they knew what they

1122
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: were doing, and positionally they'd be so much better. Was

1123
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: that was that his words or was he quoting the

1124
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: teams like the party line? What do you guys think?

1125
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know

1126
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: if that's just his opinion. I mean, I remember hearing

1127
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: him say it, um, it sounded like his perspective on it.

1128
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that he was fed it.

1129
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: But I mean it's exactly what they would have said,

1130
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: and they agree exactly what you would have its. Guys,

1131
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to explain where to go. Maybe they're

1132
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: going to get there a little slower, but when they

1133
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: know where to go before and I was that thing,

1134
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: but I think we are all are at the point

1135
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: now where I'd rather have guys making mistakes fast than

1136
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: And you wonder if that was a discussion. Was that

1137
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: a topic of debate within you know, the coaching Yeah,

1138
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: And that's perfect prick because now you led to my

1139
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: next point. Okay, now, And I was talking to some

1140
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: of my friends that are also pat Spans, and one

1141
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: of them came up with is Bill coaching for the

1142
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: better of the team, Like is the team first now?

1143
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Or is Bill coaching to catch that that silly Shula

1144
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: and all these records and for himself because he's got

1145
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: so much of the team, like the last year, all

1146
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: the big spenditure stuff. Was he trying to win now,

1147
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: get his wins in so he can get it or

1148
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: is he looking to the future. Where where is his mind? Really?

1149
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we can tell. I thought that was

1150
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: a good question. Clarify this for me. This is what

1151
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: to get that record, He's got to win a bunch

1152
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: of games. So he's trying to like, like, I don't

1153
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't separate between think, but like, I mean, if

1154
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: you want to tell me like he's just gonna half

1155
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: asset and win eight games a year for the next

1156
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: ten years, yeah, another one just like it. But I

1157
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: just I don't get like I'm gonna help I'm gonna

1158
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: help the Todd out, And I'm not necessarily Todd. I'm

1159
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily saying I agree. Agree, we're gonna give it

1160
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: to me. But I think what Todd is suggesting and

1161
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: what others have suggested, is is it in the best

1162
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: interest of the team to go all in to win

1163
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: as many games as you can as fast as you can,

1164
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: which is I think you can make an argument that

1165
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: he did last year. Yeah, but he's always been a

1166
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: it's a long term thing and a long term in

1167
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: a short term thing. Yeah, the best we always do

1168
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: what's in the best interests of both the team. You

1169
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: can make an argument that what they did last year

1170
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: was not in the best interests of the long term

1171
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: success of the team. But if he if his goal

1172
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: is to get that thing, he's got to win a

1173
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: bunch of games for three or four years, right, I

1174
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: think that's in the best suggest that if you can

1175
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: do that, not a bunch well what like they did

1176
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: last like they did last year. Yeah, but but there's

1177
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: also even if you rip the band aid off, there's

1178
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: no guarantee that, like if you take your lunch, which

1179
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: is why you're not going to take, which is why

1180
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm not suggested. I think you should try to win.

1181
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: Like the whole long term short term thing is a

1182
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: bunch of nonsense. I think you get good personnel on

1183
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: your team, you try to win games, and then you

1184
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: try to do the best. You can't just sustain it.

1185
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't make moves in you know, twenty twenty one

1186
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: with an idea of that's gonna make me better in

1187
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but in twenty twenty three I'm not

1188
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: going to be as good. I think that's a fireball offense.

1189
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: I think every week, every week, every year, you say,

1190
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: how can how do we get better? Right? How do

1191
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: we get every year? Your goal should be to improve Yeah,

1192
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: and yeah. I mean would I make a move and

1193
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: be all in every year, No, because there are years

1194
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: that you go into the season you say that guy's

1195
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: not going to put us over the top. This guy's

1196
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: not going to make us, you know, discernibly better. So

1197
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: you don't maybe you don't do something like that. Like

1198
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: another word, you don't trade two first round picks last

1199
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: year for von Miller at the trade deadline. The way

1200
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams spent draft capital on von Miller.

1201
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: I think it was like a second and a third

1202
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: or something like that. I wouldn't have done that if

1203
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 1: I were the Patriots. Yeah, But at the same time,

1204
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't look at the you know, all of these

1205
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: moves being sort of mutually exclusive, like I'm trying to

1206
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: get better. They made some free agent moves last year

1207
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: to get better. Yeah, you could make an argument that

1208
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: it didn't make them better in the long term, which

1209
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: is the knock against building a team through free agency

1210
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: is the contracts come due and you take a step back.

1211
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: And I think that that probably will happen. But they

1212
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: were in such a bad spot roster wise that they

1213
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: almost had to do something drastic like that just to

1214
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: get back to respectability, and now you figure out which

1215
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: ones work which ones don't. I have Bill, so he's

1216
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: going to be able to coach them better than most guys.

1217
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: And that's how you go about your rebuilding plan. You

1218
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: figure out what you're gonna do moving forward. I don't

1219
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: like I'm with Mike. I don't look at his quest

1220
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: to overtake shoot as being necessarily a negative thing in

1221
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: any way. Reshad's in Baltimore. What's uphod Hey, what's up?

1222
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Hey? First, well, before before I

1223
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: asked my question, I wanted to say I definitely appreciate y'all,

1224
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: y'all the ogs of the Patriots, like the pot nations,

1225
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: y'all keep me y'all, like all the stuff that I

1226
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't know, like that's like in like the early nineties

1227
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: and ads and stuff. And when y'all be spitting those

1228
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: facts and stuff, I'd be loving it because it just

1229
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: be new Patriots, you know, stuff that I need to know.

1230
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: And I definitely wanted to tell y'all I appreciate that. Well,

1231
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. One of the benefits of

1232
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: being old. So last week all of Draft pombn stuff,

1233
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: after watching this stuff, and then like all the news

1234
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: coming out with the Patriots maybe looking for a wide

1235
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: receiver even like the trademark and and stuff like that. Um,

1236
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: I looked at I targeted five players, and if we

1237
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: don't get these players, then I really think we should

1238
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: just trade down Devin Loy Andrew Bull. I know he

1239
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: might not be there, Jordan Davis, um the corner, Kier Eleen,

1240
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: and Chris Olive hopefully, but Jordan Davis I wasn't sold

1241
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: on over after the combine. I'm like, we definitely should

1242
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: get somebody like that that like you just need that

1243
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: type of explosion of golf to be line. Maybe somebody

1244
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: who can actually tack with Josh Evan. Well, he's a

1245
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: big boy. I mean he ran really well. I mean

1246
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. Yeah, I think he'll probably go up to

1247
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: top ten, fifteen, Yeah in there. Um, I like your list,

1248
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: though I'm not as I'm not as stoked on Alive

1249
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: as a lot of people are. Um. I mean I

1250
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: think he's super smooth and athletic, but um, I do

1251
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: like a a lot. I've definitely gotten a crush on

1252
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: Trey Loon Burks a little bit more. But um, you

1253
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: know the other uh, the other guy is Travon Walker.

1254
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: For me, I really think he is. I don't know him.

1255
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Georgia defensive, n that's why. And I think like that's

1256
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm like Georgia, but that that gre I see that guy.

1257
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean and I and he blew up the combine too.

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Speaker 1: passed by the way. Robbie Anderson, Yeah, oh yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: take him Ari Cooper, but hard pass on I don't

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Speaker 1: like Robbie. Yeah, I would take I would take him Mark,

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Speaker 1: everybody out. All right, Thanks for Sean. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the kind words. Let's go to the island of

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Speaker 1: small correction before I go into some trivia on punting.

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Speaker 1: Here correction for something Paul said last week. We were

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Speaker 1: Paul as he is, want to do sort of under

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Speaker 1: his breath. That's one. Thank you so much. He said.

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Speaker 1: Punters don't win games. They don't got this guy tell

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Speaker 1: you that Matt rids this guy. I actually grew up

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Speaker 1: but we won on a last second goal by none

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought he said field goal. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: You know him though. People are all over him, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking to people around Indianapolis last week, as you were doing.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's very I was in my office. I

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Speaker 1: heard all the same stuff, but like a left footed punter.

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Speaker 1: I I'd never heard of pumper punter pumped up like

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Speaker 1: Fourth rounder. We got him. And the thing about punters

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Speaker 1: he's going out there to hold for a field goal

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Speaker 1: pay him. Don't like he's making nothing play too good too,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get a new guy in here. They too good.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we're gonna We drafted a punter who became

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Speaker 1: drafting another punter. Yeah, and this makes sense to people.

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Speaker 1: So instead of paying like three point eight million for

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Speaker 1: six type right. It's because you can just you can

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Speaker 1: just have a quarterback to it. And that kind of

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Speaker 1: That's also a good option. Yes, good options, Tim. So

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Speaker 1: what's your your trivia question? Do you know what the

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Speaker 1: longest non punter funts of all times? I'll give you yes,

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Speaker 1: Randall Randall Cunningham ninety nine yards. I remember that the

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Speaker 1: And he made the call to his coach to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got this. I'll punt it from the two yard line.

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Speaker 1: I was really good at it in college. He was.

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Speaker 1: And he punted it for ninety one yards. Wow, he was,

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Speaker 1: I think he was. He was like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he won the ring. He was. He was an

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Speaker 1: excellent maybe an All American hunter. Yeah, what was the

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Speaker 1: what was the how how long was it in the

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Speaker 1: year verse? Rolling? Oh? Oh, I don't remember. It rolled

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Speaker 1: a lot, but even like a fifty yard punt, is

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Speaker 1: you know from the two yard line? That's he was

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Speaker 1: a lot of time to do. But like Randall, Cunningham

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Speaker 1: He says, Fred's new answer to any coach or player

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Speaker 1: now great moments in history. I had to stop at

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Speaker 1: that shell station down next to Guccianos on one fred Yeah,

1496
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 1: fill it up for gas. So I go in to

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01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: pay the cashier, this woman who's been there for I know.

1498
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: I like to go in and pay prepay. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Why there, I just lick it better. Oh come, don't

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Speaker 1: get me on it. Don't get just cap it. Why

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: do you like the card? The credit card? It's just

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01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: twenty bucks on or fill it up? No, I usually

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: put in a certain amount that at the pump. I

1504
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: know you can Jerry Seinfeld from the commercial that he

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01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: did back in the day when he remember you did that.

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01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh, and he pulled the credit card. Apparently you

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01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: don't all the way in there, all the way It

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: sound like you're walking fifteen miles. I can't understand if

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: you didn't have a credit card, all you have was

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01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 1: cat right, because then you got that. I can understand anyway,

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01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: so I go into the store. It makes no sense

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: anyway I go into this bothers me, Well, stop it

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01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: and let me finish the story. Why would you go in? Oh,

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01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 1: it's just such a hassle. It's not a hassle. You're

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Speaker 1: the laziest person I've ever known that they did this.

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01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: At the time, I'm walking ten steps. I look into

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01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: the door so I can pay for the cashier and say,

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 1: I'll have this. It's it's for art convenience. Have you

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: ever seen the signs on there that a lot of

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01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: places say, pre go inside and pre pay before you pump.

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01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: A lot of places won't let you do that thing

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:10,640
Speaker 1: at the pump. You know, where the hell do you not?

1523
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: Maybe in Arkansas? That's another great moment from all right

1524
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: back here and Patriots Unfiltered. I just love Arkansas. That

1525
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: you know. Eric is not unlike the rest of us

1526
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: that every once in a while he lapses into a

1527
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: local dialect. That happens walking ten miles. It's not like

1528
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm walking. You never got you never got to your

1529
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: original story. Like I remember what it was like, friend,

1530
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: capture that one little detail. Then it was like the water.

1531
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: He was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I think

1532
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: it was I think it was something, but grocery shopping

1533
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: at a seven eleven. It doesn't make sense. I agree.

1534
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: I would never go grocery shopping in a seven eleven anyway.

1535
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: Did you happen to see the studio thing of the

1536
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 1: TNT NBA stuff that was on making the rounds on Twitter?

1537
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: Shack Oh was talking about when it gets to half,

1538
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, with the gas prices, Kenny Smith was complaining

1539
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: about paying eighty bucks to fill up his take, right.

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01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: Shack says, no, no, just let it get half. You

1541
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: had the halfway and then just put twenty bucks in, right,

1542
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: And Kennedy's trying to explain to him that, first of all,

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01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 1: half of eighty is forty. I couldn't figure that out. Second,

1544
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: if I have to go four times, right, that's still

1545
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: the eighty dollars, Right if instead of two the same yeah,

1546
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 1: And He's like, no, no, no, no, but you wouldn't.

1547
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: You wouldn't do that, Like Shaq, just couldn't figure it out.

1548
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: In the whole time, Barkley was silent because he was

1549
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 1: peeing himself, laughing, like it was unlike anything I've ever seen,

1550
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: And I legitimately to this day to this moment. Don't

1551
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: think Shack understood the flaw in now. They only just

1552
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: put twenty dollars in every time. The only time you

1553
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: spend twenty dollars, the only time that would make sense

1554
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: is if you knew the next day, oh yeah, they

1555
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: were gonna lower prices drastically. Then you do just what

1556
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: you need to get to the next day. Yeah. But otherwise, yeah,

1557
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: it's insane. He was my understanding. And I'll bet you

1558
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: he walked into pay too. Yeah, well maybe he did.

1559
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: Um all right. Five five Pats five hundred is the

1560
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: A Sticket Hotline web radio at patrios dot com. A

1561
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of subjects on the table today. Phones are lit up.

1562
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to William and Philam. What's up William, gentlemen,

1563
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? We're doing good? Okay? Is Mike in

1564
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: the day, Yes, he's here, he's back from Indy. Okay. Um,

1565
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: but this is for this is for all of Jim.

1566
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: I'm just going to lower Land. What in God's name

1567
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: is going on with our team? Gentlemen? I mean now

1568
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 1: we have no corners really other and I mean we

1569
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: gave us, we gave up Gilmore for a sixth round,

1570
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: we get enough for J C. Jackson, I mean the

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01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff, I'm not. I'm okay happy, right man? I mean,

1572
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: are y'all worried about this team just as much as

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: I am. I think there's a I think there's a

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01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: reason for you to be concerned that they could take

1575
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: a step back this year. Well I am here, or

1576
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: they think a lot of stats, it's a fourth step staff. Yeah,

1577
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm reserving judgment to see what they actually do. Like, sure,

1578
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: I see I don't like some of the things that

1579
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: have happened so far. But I'm also I'm not going

1580
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: to sit there and say, well, this is the finished product,

1581
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: like they're gonna have an offseason and then when that unfolds,

1582
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: I'll sort of assess it and say, yeah, I don't

1583
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: I think they've lost more than they they tell you

1584
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: around week twelve. Yeah, okay, Well I don't go all

1585
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: in there. He won't though it's a great job, is

1586
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: one of his best coaching jobs ever. There I'm twelve,

1587
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: but I will. I'm with this one. The GM and uh,

1588
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: where's Robert Kraft and all this? Probably? I mean, why

1589
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: is he not saying nothing? Like you know, I just

1590
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: he said his boy should be put into this a

1591
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean we since Tom walked out the door,

1592
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, eight our players opted

1593
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: out and stuff and and like we were this just

1594
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: just free agencies free and then we take a step

1595
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: going forward and take a step back. Some of the

1596
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: groceries was wrong some right, it seems like it's just

1597
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: a mess right now, come on, it's not as it's

1598
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: not that bad. It's not a mess. I do think

1599
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: that there's a chance, I'm just a little word. I

1600
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that there's going to be listening

1601
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: a bit of a step back. But you do have

1602
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: a second year quarterback that a lot of people are

1603
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: excited about. And I agree, I am, yeah, And there

1604
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: are other pieces in place that I think have the potential,

1605
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, Christian Barmore, Kyle Dugger, Um Stevenson who who know, Yeah,

1606
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson, who knows about maybe some others like Josh

1607
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: Uch you know how they there are some pieces in place,

1608
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 1: and the guys that you should be able to Kendrick

1609
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: Bourne and Hunter Henry And yeah, I'm not as excited there. Okay, Okay,

1610
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna be on the team for

1611
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: another year, Like I'm looking down the road, right, but

1612
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: PA won't start right on the defense. Why don't he start,

1613
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: Josh Bay, he's gonna, He's gonna. Now he's gonna have

1614
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: to Yeah, okay, okay, this is this is my point.

1615
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think it's I don't think

1616
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: it's a mess. Is it concerning? Yeah? I don't think

1617
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: you're wrong to be concerned. I think there are some

1618
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: things that have me concerned. To get two former head

1619
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: coaches on your coaching staff, right, Well, that's what I mean,

1620
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that's my concern. Like the JC Jackson thing I've seen

1621
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: coming for two years. So two guys with their career

1622
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: record win total you could combine as head coaches and

1623
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: they wouldn't equal the Patriots win Total's been through the fire.

1624
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: They've been through the fire. But why didn't they take

1625
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 1: care of jac Jackson and Gilmore lasting so we wouldn't

1626
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: have to go pub again? You know what I'm saying.

1627
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:01,879
Speaker 1: The Gilmore one is huge? Okay, they got nothing for Gilmore.

1628
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Should have traded him, like Mike said earlier in the

1629
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: show in twenty twenty, right, I agree, could have potentially

1630
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: got trade deadline, could have potentially gotten a high pick

1631
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: for him. Instead, you let him walk for virtually nothing,

1632
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: and now you're going to get probably a comp third

1633
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: round pick, which is really a fourth round pick for

1634
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: JC Jackson in twenty twenty three. And that's only if

1635
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: you don't sign anybody, if you sign someone of comparable value,

1636
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: and you're not even gonna get that dottle that they will, right, gentlemen,

1637
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: all right, thanks William. It's not as bad as it seems.

1638
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: I promise Sean's in Vancouver. What's up, Sean? Hey, yeah,

1639
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: Freddy got four things so well besides potentially not yeah,

1640
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: this all seem quick, and then you can comment side

1641
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: potentially not finding a trading partner. What else would be

1642
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 1: the downside of not tagging jac Jackson today? Um also

1643
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: releasing Karl Vannoy gives the pick, can we do one

1644
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: at I'll forget. I would say that is the big,

1645
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: the big fear of sign you know, you're tagging him

1646
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: to trade him and not being able to trade him

1647
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: right now. You got to pay him right, yeah, there's

1648
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: nothing else, So that's that's real and that's hard money. No,

1649
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the other part would be you have to

1650
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: pay him seventeen point three million. Well, technically they could.

1651
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: They could rescind the tag if they don't find a

1652
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 1: trading partner. No, but if he, if he signs it,

1653
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: it's guaranteed. Can't resend it. The No, but I mean

1654
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: like if if if they fear no, but he's asking

1655
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: about the fears, yes, and I'm saying, like they could

1656
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: they could have signed him the tag. He doesn't sign

1657
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: it yet, but like so they don't find a trading

1658
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: partner and then they can just say, Okay, we'll resend

1659
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: the tag. But if once he signs it, then yes,

1660
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: now you're if you're JC Jackson. What if they they

1661
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: give him I mean they have till four o'clock right, yeah,

1662
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: but we're talking about another two half hours. Yeah, and

1663
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: he signs it at four or one, like right now,

1664
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: now you trade him at four fifty. My guess is

1665
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: My guess is Indie was to find out if there

1666
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: was a trading partner out there. Probably Yeah from what

1667
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I what are you hearing out there? When I heard?

1668
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything, dude, you were an indie? What

1669
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: are you hearing? Okay? What's number two? Sean? Okay? Releasing

1670
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: carlvnoy gives the path some money to sign players. So

1671
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: what else should they do? Maybe restructure Igala and catch

1672
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: anything else? You think. It's probably a lot of Don's

1673
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: Gil's light him out. I mean, maybe Shack Mason extension

1674
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: rework or Jonathan jones By Bailey him, you did it, now,

1675
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a Ron, you made the proby point you getting cut.

1676
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: Don't do that, Bailey. Yeah. I mean there's a lot

1677
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: of ways you can maneuver the cap think, I think, uh,

1678
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: you know. And yet another example, reportedly, the Green Bay

1679
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: Packers have signed Aaron Rodgers to a four year, two

1680
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,800
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract which includes one hundred and fifty

1681
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: three million of guaranteed money, and have lowered his cap

1682
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: number in the process. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's for

1683
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: my my pick for the second best Patriots linebacker of

1684
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: all time with Nick Buonacni okay never, Yeah, he had

1685
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: his best years with Miami. I don't know. I mean

1686
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: he was good, he was good, but he has his

1687
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: number retired here, right Yeah? Well yeah, no, I mean, wow,

1688
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: opened up. I can the Selvant didn't have the money.

1689
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: That was a problem. They shouldn't have owned a team, right, Um. Yeah.

1690
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: The next the Last Thing, Mike. I don't know if

1691
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: he's still watched sarent Live, but there was in May

1692
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: there was this hilarious parody of the Last Dance documentary

1693
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 1: with Keegan Michael t and it really comments on on, yeah,

1694
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: on the competitive nature of being the goat, Like that's Jordan,

1695
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: but it could apply to Brady or Gretzky Pelley, maybe

1696
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. I don't know Pete Rose. Yeah, well, just

1697
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: someone who's addictive to competent, addicted to competent knowing about it,

1698
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: addicted to the you know, the action. You know, you

1699
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 1: just beat me in brock paper scissors and I'm like

1700
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of madam, right, the action is, the juice is

1701
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: the action is. And your final point, Sean, I think

1702
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I think we're only on three. Yeah, no, I did four? Alight?

1703
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: All right? Thanks great, Thanks Sean. I appreciate the call.

1704
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Uh, Patty's an agawam, what's up? Patty? It's up, guys.

1705
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Pretty Before I get to my my point, I got

1706
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: to apologize for my call last Thursday. I know it

1707
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: sounded like I was in a construction zone, but I

1708
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: moved one place to get because it was noisy and

1709
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: turned out it was Noisier or where I watched, so

1710
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I apologize. I wanted to ask Mike, um, Mike, what

1711
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: don't you like about Chris Alave? Because to me, like

1712
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Treylon Burks is big and seemingly fast, but I know,

1713
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: like his his forty time, which I don't really put

1714
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: that much stock into, wasn't that great. But to me,

1715
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: like Alave seems like the kind of receiver that could

1716
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: play anywhere, like any you can line him up anywhere,

1717
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 1: and he's he seems to yeah, and I don't. I

1718
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: don't dislike him. I mean, I think he's smooth and

1719
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I just think he's a little bit

1720
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: less physical, a little smaller, little more slight. It's not

1721
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: gonna be there. And some of those guys he might be,

1722
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: he might be. I don't know. A guy crossed him

1723
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,719
Speaker 1: off the list. He ran a four three. It's interesting

1724
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: everybody even a four three. Uh, It's it was interesting

1725
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: before the combine looking at him and Garrett Wilson and

1726
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: the comps between that and Garrett Wilson. You know, people

1727
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 1: were asking him before the combine. People thought Karret Wilson

1728
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: was going to run like a four to five five,

1729
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: and they asked him about it at the combine and

1730
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: he's like, we'll see, and then he ran faster than

1731
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: a Lave did. Um. So he's just a little bit

1732
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: more tough, just a little bit more in my wheelhouse.

1733
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean nothing against the Lave, but I don't know.

1734
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: I just I think overall, you want, I like guys

1735
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 1: who are a little bit thicker. Burks I wasn't in

1736
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: on at first. Um. I don't even realise him doing it. Um,

1737
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: but Burks, I think once I once I got a

1738
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: look at him and and you know, hurt him talk

1739
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: and you know, just to see what kind of guy

1740
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: he was. He just you know, checked a lot of boxes,

1741
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: big guy, um, you know, but does a bunch of

1742
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: different things. And they blige him up all over the place.

1743
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: And but Patty, you're right, and like there is a concern.

1744
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people on Twitter talking, you know,

1745
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: like the the numbers, the combine numbers were very similar

1746
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 1: to Harry's. And I think people look at him as

1747
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: a bigger guy, a bigger athlete, and they worry about

1748
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Harry's numbers were but I think

1749
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 1: Traylan Burks on tape looks like a much better athlete

1750
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: to me than Nikil Harry did at Arizona State. But

1751
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: I've said, I've said, there's a million times like that's

1752
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: not what I I have a hard time taking the

1753
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: college guys and saying that guy can do this in

1754
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: the pros, like that's why it's not an easy thing

1755
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: to do. I think there are guys that do it

1756
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: for a living and they identify these little skill sets

1757
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 1: that separate others. And maybe Traylan Burks has some something

1758
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: that Nikhil Harry doesn't. He looks to me to be

1759
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: a bit like a different kind of athlete. I agree

1760
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: with you. He's a little bit like it sounds stupid,

1761
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: like a little bit looser yep, Like he doesn't look

1762
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: like his tight wound To me, Harry looks like he

1763
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: has no flexibility. Yeah, and believe me. And like you know,

1764
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you read the draft profiles and they say tight

1765
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,879
Speaker 1: skinned athlete, Like that's what Harry. I mean. Harry's a specimen.

1766
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: He is, I mean, he but he looks like he

1767
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 1: has no flexibility, like he wouldn't be good with with

1768
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: TB twelve. He doesn't drink a lot of water. Yeah,

1769
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: all right, Patty too, I mean he played in a better,

1770
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: much better conference, real quick, Freddy, Um, did you guys

1771
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: that's true? Did you see this? There's this video of

1772
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: a guy doing a Bill Belichick impression, like a little

1773
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 1: YouTube snippet, and one of his scouts come up to

1774
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: him and says, hey, Bill, I found this this wide

1775
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: receiver he runs a four one two five. He's like, Nope,

1776
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: too fast. He's like, but what do you mean too fast?

1777
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, too fast. Anything under four or anything

1778
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: under four point five is not good. I tell you.

1779
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: The line that came to me watching that thing was like,

1780
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you'd have to didn't see that, you'd have to try

1781
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: not to draft someone fast this year? Like you just

1782
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: no matter who you take, you're probably getting a fast guy. Everybody.

1783
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't underestimate their ability to do it. Bolden, don't

1784
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: underestimate them. Where Neil uh Stephen, South Carolina says, Deuce,

1785
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: I love your takes. In the effort you make, it

1786
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: is noticeable that you love football. In your info is appreciated.

1787
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: I would love to see you push back on Paul

1788
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: once in a while. Please fight him. He doesn't time

1789
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 1: to time so he doesn't become a hot take tyrant

1790
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: as he is wont to do. Wow, we were fighting

1791
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, so strong strong Eric. He's probably

1792
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: heard him as much as he can fight with a smile,

1793
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: On said, he's well, he's a good natured guy. Eric.

1794
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: You've probably heard of Stockholm syndrome. Yes, when yeah, yeah, right,

1795
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: he's been taking captive by and then you're just like,

1796
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I believe. You're right, Paul,

1797
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 1: You're right, and and just uh, you know, to set

1798
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: the record straight. When when Deuce had that thing about

1799
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: reading between the lines a little bit with with Macro,

1800
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: I was busting his balls on that one. And I

1801
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:01,679
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily disputing his take. I have a different opinion,

1802
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: but I was just busting balls there. It's the it's

1803
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: the thing about the the high end of the market,

1804
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, the top of the market contracts for Trent

1805
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: Brown that I would adding like highly no, not interested

1806
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: in Yeah. Yeah, I'm not to agree with you again, Paul,

1807
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. But I think you know what's funny.

1808
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,719
Speaker 1: It's like before I started this job, like in listening

1809
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: to you, no no, but I always I always thought

1810
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: Paul has good takes. I mean, I feel the same

1811
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,839
Speaker 1: way about Andy. I mean, I think that they're not stupid,

1812
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: they're well thought out, and they're not designed just to

1813
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: get reactions. They're good takes that make you think and

1814
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: make you respond. And I, you know, I and I'm

1815
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: not gonna argue with based on grudges in battles, right well,

1816
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: that is true, That is absolutely true. I argue for

1817
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: a living. It's sport. I argue for sport. But one

1818
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: of the things that like I don't want to say

1819
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: here and say, like you know, what makes go us great?

1820
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: Like I think the difference between our show on a

1821
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: lot of shows is I'm not afraid to tell you

1822
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: when I when I screw it up, like I. I

1823
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: didn't have this like visceral hatred for Nikil Harry when

1824
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: they drafted him. I didn't. I thought he I thought

1825
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 1: he would be a good player, like I wasn't. He

1826
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite wide receiver coming out. But I didn't

1827
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: tell you that he was going to be a stiff

1828
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: the night they drafted him. I wasn't arguing with Fred

1829
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: telling you this is a horrible pick. I didn't. I

1830
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't see it. I didn't see it, you know, And

1831
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: at the same time, we have a lot of different

1832
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour, I wanted David Terrell, like if there were

1833
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: a bigger example of someone admitting that they were wrong,

1834
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: Like I wanted a guy who never did anything in

1835
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the NFL over a guy who just got elected to

1836
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: the holiday right, Like, I mean, I don't know how

1837
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: much more Fourth Road I can be alone with on

1838
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: that one though. I didn't want to know. But my

1839
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: point being is a lot of guys would just say, yeah,

1840
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,879
Speaker 1: well yeah, but you know he was he wrote the cotails.

1841
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: He was just like he got pumped up because he

1842
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: was on all those teams that won all those games

1843
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: because of Belichick and Brady. Like yeah, I could sit

1844
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: there and make all kinds of excuses as to why

1845
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: I got it wrong, but the bottom line is I

1846
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: got it wrong, and other guys don't. I don't think

1847
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys do that. Gene and Ottawa says,

1848
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 1: I hope this email finds you well, I hope you've

1849
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: filled your cars before going into the studio. Gas is

1850
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: going to go through the ceiling. With regards to gambling,

1851
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: I think any NFL player who gambles on NFL games

1852
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 1: is doing the equivalent of insider trading. It's wrong, and

1853
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 1: the suspension should be a career band from playing the

1854
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: game or having any affiliation with the league and its teams.

1855
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: That's a good analogy. It's inside trading. Yeah, that's a

1856
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 1: good and that's a really good analogy. Yeah, I mean,

1857
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what else he can say. Uh, Eldred

1858
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: heard his name used, and so he jumped on the phone.

1859
01:36:52,600 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: What's up, Eldred? Good? Every time I hear that, Take

1860
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: what you can hear about the gas card? Yeah, that

1861
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 1: was fun. That was a good one. No, while I'm

1862
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: what you want to know why I'm with you on

1863
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 1: that one? Why is that? Because if you pay attention,

1864
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: they take one hundred and fifty dollars dollars off your

1865
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: card once you get thirty dollars just every gas stay station.

1866
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Now what they do that They go unfifty old nifty

1867
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: for a while. They ain't you let it go from there?

1868
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Do you mean you pay more? You pay more for

1869
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: gas if you pay with a credit card. He's saying,

1870
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: they do a whole temporary authors they do a hold

1871
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: hold on on your on your card, They do a hole.

1872
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what card you're you, Okay, don't do

1873
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 1: it on my First, they don't do that on my card. Second,

1874
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: Eric uses a card, so they do the hold anyway.

1875
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: He just wants the hold in the inc Yeah. But

1876
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: like I said, if I paid thirty dollars, you don't

1877
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: hold thirty dollars. You can hold on hundred and eighty.

1878
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: You're a truck driver. When's the last time you pay

1879
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: thirty dollars for a tanky gas? No? No, I'm put

1880
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: this in my card. I come tru. I ain't got

1881
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: no PA for the true come to pay for that. Yeah, no,

1882
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: don't what the hold on them. I've never had a

1883
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't have a hole. I don't have a hole.

1884
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: And I checked balances a lot. Yeah, because I don't

1885
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: know if you know this, but I have credit card.

1886
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: They do that. They do that down here. Yeah, you

1887
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: might not do it, but they do it down Know

1888
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: what they do up here? Like you like if you

1889
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: put if you If I go in and I say

1890
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 1: I want, you know, sixty dollars worth of gas, and

1891
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: I only and it only feels to like fifty seven

1892
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 1: thirty five, I don't get charged for the sixty. I

1893
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,799
Speaker 1: get charged for what I actually pumped which was fifty

1894
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: seven thirty five, right, But that that's that that doesn't

1895
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: post until like maybe two days later. They don't put

1896
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: a hold on my card though, like I can still

1897
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: use the card for other things. Well, it's not a

1898
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: hold on the card. It's one hundred and fifty dollar hole. Oh,

1899
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: they automatically do it no matter what you paid, pre paid.

1900
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't do that here. That doesn't happen.

1901
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen here. Oh really, that's because you're shaving.

1902
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: Put it on a Facebook page and show it to

1903
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: you get. Oh, don't do don't do that. No no, no, no,

1904
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: no no, don't put a credit check, no money. But

1905
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: they got they got the sticker on the pump. I

1906
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: don't believe they. Okay, okay, yeah, send us your credit

1907
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: card statement, Eldred. Why don't you just send us the

1908
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: card itself? One that must be other thing because I've

1909
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: never seen that. Yeah, it's never happened up here. I

1910
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: took a picture once and send us these guys, Eldred

1911
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: where it said there was actually a sign on the

1912
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: pump that said please pay inside first. Getting back to football, dude, Yeah,

1913
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: like a lava. Yeah, but I'm him william Or or

1914
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: Dodson I'd be happy with. And Paul, like I said,

1915
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: I was going on to call there on Harry the

1916
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: first date you did, y'all I remember, I remember, yeah,

1917
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: but U but uh but Paul on our bet if Dotson,

1918
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 1: Williams and what you gotta go away us before we

1919
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 1: get there in Alvea, and we picked somebody. I don't

1920
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 1: think nobody else don't go do better than him in

1921
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: the first day. Those guys gonna throwing around out. Well,

1922
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 1: I'll feel what team they go to though, those guys

1923
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 1: going around out. And I never heard about Cooper because

1924
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: he's said on the contract with Dallas how to differ.

1925
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: Evidently they're going to release him. Yeah, they haven't yet,

1926
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess he's doing a huge roster bonus

1927
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah. He is about fifteen. Yeah, so the

1928
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 1: word is that they're gonna release him. Ain't gonna pay

1929
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: a little to get his fifteen me? I don't think right, Well,

1930
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: that's why I mean, Yeah, someone I think someone called

1931
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: earlier and said that they didn't see him coming here

1932
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: because of that he's too expensive, and I because he wanted.

1933
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: He's a good receiver and he's gonna want his money,

1934
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: and I can't believe that will let him go though

1935
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: with him and lay him and uh and I guess

1936
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,559
Speaker 1: they're trying. They're trying to get Gallup resigned. I think

1937
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, yeah, Gallup, Yeah, he's a free agent. But Gallup, yeah,

1938
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: you have that too. All Right, we have a good day.

1939
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Aldred. Alright, I'm safe, Dan and Virginia

1940
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: and Michigan says that was deuced the teacher for the

1941
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: class that you all took about not gambling, given his

1942
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: pick results for last season, should be an expert on

1943
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: how not to gamble. Yeah, boom. So I showed Paul

1944
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Warren Sharp you know does sharp football. Yes, so he

1945
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: posted that video from TNT and he said, shack with

1946
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: a gasoline hack that will save you money. So I

1947
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: was bufuddled for the last like day because I'm like,

1948
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: this doesn't make any sense to me. And now after

1949
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: our conversation, I'm questioning all of sharp football the whole

1950
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: West that he's making a joke. Yeah, but he's got

1951
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: to be the most one of the most humorous guys

1952
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: in football on the internet. I mean, really, I don't know.

1953
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know. I took I

1954
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: took it as serious, but um, yeah, anyway, I don't

1955
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: see how that works. Brendan writes in from Port mcquarie,

1956
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: Oh Australia. May Yeah, wow, good Port McQuary. Probably something

1957
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 1: more like that quick hypothetical. If Brady contact to the

1958
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: Patriots and it's keen to play for one more year,

1959
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: what is the maximum value contract you'd be willing to

1960
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: give him and to the Bucks to have him back,

1961
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: assuming that all the offensive players return, And would you

1962
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: do it? What did Rogers just getting forty million guaranteed

1963
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: one fifty three? I would give him forty million a year.

1964
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I just give him a thank you for your service. Yeah,

1965
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't want it back under any sartin

1966
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 1: Would you do it? Paul? Would you? I mean, if

1967
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: you just asked me what the maximum kry? I would

1968
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: give him forty million. He's asking you, would you do it?

1969
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: Would you want him back? Absolutely? Okay? What I want

1970
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: to But are you going to wear yours down the road?

1971
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: What's around him? I mean, he says, is assuming everybody

1972
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: that's year is still there. You're not adding Davante Adams

1973
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Yeah, it's this still take my

1974
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: shot won ten last year with a rookie. My guess

1975
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: as they could win thirteen with Brady. I just I'd

1976
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: have to think about I know I will because you

1977
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: talk about you know, okay, what does that do to

1978
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: the long term advancement of the team. And it's gonna

1979
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: be a one year thing. Got news not for us,

1980
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: but big breaking news right now? What is the Schefter blockbuster?

1981
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: After weeks of negotiations and one of the largest trades

1982
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 1: in NFL history, the Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos have

1983
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: agreed to terms for a deal involving Super Bowl winning

1984
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: quarterback Russell Wilson. The Broncos trade is defending a physical

1985
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: and Wilson's now, I definitely midy because otherwise I ain't

1986
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. So that tells me that they were

1987
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about Aaron Rodgers and then he's just

1988
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: done and that boom. Yeah yeah, and then they hear

1989
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: like Washington was offering multiple first rounders for Wilson and

1990
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: they and he turned it down. I saw that the

1991
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: other day, Well, the AFC, but yeah, the Broncos. Wow. Yeah.

1992
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,839
Speaker 1: It also sounds like Mike Williams is signing an extension

1993
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: with the child and what are they giving? What is

1994
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: did not say in compensation? Yet, let's see what this

1995
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: next one says. Uh Oh, Denver quiring Russell Wilson has

1996
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Aaron Ryu right a right a right.

1997
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: George Patton initiated trade talks with Seattle for Wilson at

1998
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: least at least two weeks ago at least, and I'm

1999
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: sure they did the same thing with Ryan. I mean,

2000
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: they don't want Wilson to think he's the second fiddle.

2001
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 1: They want him to think that he's our first choice.

2002
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: But that's interesting. I think that's the end of the Broncos.

2003
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: They bad move, really mortgaging their future. I'm just second

2004
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 1: of how high Russell Wilson's going to throw that ball

2005
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: in Denver, like it already is just like those old

2006
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: Nike commercials when the quarterbacks used to throw the football

2007
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: out of the stadium. That's massive haul including multiple first

2008
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: round picks, wow, plus additional picks and players. What happened

2009
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: to John Elway? What do you mean? Like, I know

2010
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 1: he's got the hand problems. I've seen that commercial, but

2011
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: like I didn't you could kind of bumped upstairs or

2012
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: bumped aside over and then yeah, when did that? When

2013
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: did that actually happens? Like two years ago? And retired

2014
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: and they realized that that he couldn't didn't know what

2015
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 1: he was getting together after Maybe he was a great quarterback,

2016
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: he just could never find a great quarterback other than

2017
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, getting Peyton. Yeah, because they've had a lot

2018
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks go there through for the last ten Trevor Simeon,

2019
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: who's the guy there. Lots of the quarterbacks have gone

2020
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: there not worked out. But Russell Wilson, that's that's huge, huge, Yeah,

2021
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 1: that is, that's enormous. Yeah, and Wilson, I mean, and

2022
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: that does I mean, in all seriousness, it doesn't add

2023
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: Denver to the mix. Oh absolutely. I mean Wilson he's

2024
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 1: only what thirty two, He's not that old thirty two.

2025
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: I think he might be thirty west. He's not that old.

2026
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks these days, how they're protected, you know, they're playing

2027
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: to their upper thirties. So he's got at least five

2028
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: six You never like when you watch them play, and

2029
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 1: they're obviously on TV all the time, they play a

2030
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: lot of high profiles whatever. Yeah, no, Russell Wilson, Yeah, yeah,

2031
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: he does go home. He doesn't take a lot of

2032
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: big He alludes he's a great runner in scrambler, but

2033
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 1: he doesn't ever seem to get lit up right, yea,

2034
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: so he could play even Yeah, probably past forty. It's

2035
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: been very durable to the first year that he's missed in.

2036
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Um yeah, time man. But yeah, I think about that

2037
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: AFC West Conference, that the quarterbacks there, that's what a

2038
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,680
Speaker 1: battle that's gonna be. Johnson has got a pretty good

2039
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: one and the worst one and probably probably and that's

2040
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: probably what Denver is saying, is like, listen, either we

2041
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 1: concede this division to Kansas City every year, or we

2042
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: get ourselves a quarterback. Yeah, you know, Wow, that's gonna

2043
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: be worth watching. They have some pieces in place to Denver.

2044
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, defensively, I think they're thought to be better

2045
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: than I think they actually were. But they have a

2046
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: lot of Judy plays, Portland Sutton, the receiver's really good

2047
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: and no offense is a good tight end. Albert oh

2048
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 1: is like a second or third tight end. I mean,

2049
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: they have they have some pieces that Javonte Williams we liked.

2050
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 1: We liked them. They have a good offense. They have

2051
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: the makings of a good offense. I should bring out

2052
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: my Denver stuff seven here in the seventh hand, like

2053
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: the arm pads on the should have seen the John

2054
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Elway shirty wool once. It's like twenty years ago. It's

2055
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: like unbelievable high comedy. It was so tight I was jacked. Yea,

2056
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: that's all right, That's what it was. To bias from

2057
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: Austria Rights and one of the last week shows. You

2058
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: agreed that the Patriots are a little financially conservative and

2059
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 1: that this is just how they've done business. But why

2060
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 1: should fans be okay with that? For governments, it is

2061
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 1: usually argued that they should be financially conservative because of

2062
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,839
Speaker 1: the negative consequences that debt end or flat out bankruptcy

2063
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: could have on the society, like inflation. However, none of

2064
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: that applies to a football franchise obviously, So why should I,

2065
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: as a fan ever want the team to keep money

2066
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: that they could spend on players instead. Now I heard

2067
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: Fred's are that spending huge contracts and players who do

2068
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: not deserve it can create a bad locker room environment.

2069
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: But when has this actually happened? Why have the Rams

2070
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: then succeeded in building a team of stars and big

2071
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: contracts without any noteworthy locker room problems for the entire

2072
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 1: McVeigh era. Accordingly, as long as the cap is crap,

2073
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: I am strong proponent of signing JC long term, getting

2074
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper for whatever is necessary, and spending even

2075
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,639
Speaker 1: more money. So I guess my question to you guys

2076
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 1: is why should I not want my team to spend

2077
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: everything it can on players. Well, an immediate example that

2078
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: comes to my mind is the Washington Well, the Commanders now,

2079
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 1: but when they were the Redskins and they used to

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Speaker 1: throw money at players every year and it almost never

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01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: worked out for them. But was that because of the

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01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: money they spent or the players that they acquired. I mean,

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01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: it was obviously the players they acquired, but they were

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01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: throwing way more at them then his email. I mean,

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01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: it's likely Deserve the Rams have done the exact same thing,

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: and they just won the Super Bowl. So it's not

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: the act of throwing money around wildly that hurts teams.

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01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: It's throwing money around to bad players. Yeah, you know,

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01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders eight years past his prime, Bruce Smith passed

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01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,720
Speaker 1: his prime. That was that Washington example. That's why it

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01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: didn't work, Not because they spent too much money. They

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01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: spent money on players that were not worth it. And

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Speaker 1: his argument, I like, why should we feel good about that?

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01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: As fans? You shouldn't. You should feel however you feel

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01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: about your team. Like some people are very much opposed

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01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: to spending a lot of money. They think that's the

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01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 1: way to win. Um, you know, being fiscally conservative and

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01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: having a solid middle class and blah blah blah blah blah.

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01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 1: If that's how you feel, then shoot your best shot.

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01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel like the best players win, and I think

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 1: I think you know, any system that includes Tom Brady

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01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 1: I for twenty years is going to succeed. Tom Brady

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01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl while having a solid middle class,

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01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 1: and he won a Super Bowl with a with a

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Speaker 1: basically an all pro team. So the constant is tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's presence. Keifer in Atlanta writes in I have a

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Speaker 1: game for you to play, Slash want to hear your

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Speaker 1: thoughts out of the following, which one would you be

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01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,600
Speaker 1: more surprised with QB in the first four rounds or

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01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 1: Nikil Harry being on the team this season the first

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to think Nikill Harry would

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01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: stick around for another year. No j C. Jackson playing

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Speaker 1: on the team next year, or Amari Cooper playing on

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01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 1: the team, Nelson Aglors traded, or Devin mccordy is playing

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01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 1: for another team. What's more likely? What would you be

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01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: more surprised? Surprised? Yeah, John H. Smith making the Pro

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01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Bowl or Chase Winovich making the Probram That's it. That's

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01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: key for in Atlanta with a little game, Sutherland, Yeah,

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01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 1: the only one that was hard. Who was the Agalou

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01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: mccordy one. I could see that I'd be going somewhere else. See,

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01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 1: I think he I think he could think. Andrew and

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: La says, I disagree with Paul. You certainly need a

2123
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: punter to win a game, unless you're playing the Patriots.

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01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Hashtag got him, got him? Uh, let's see. I want

2125
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: to find out what this package for the Seahawks is. Yeah, yeah,

2126
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 1: keep it, eye on it. Several players money, ten minutes.

2127
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 1: This thing I'll be over in two minutes. Get Seattle too,

2128
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean that Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll and it's over.

2129
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: And there was a lot, you know, in retrospect, there

2130
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of people tweeting about Seattle's um sort

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01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:52,600
Speaker 1: of drop off the last five or six years in personnel.

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01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if people had it sort of an inkling

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01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: this was coming. Well, Pete Carroll said that they were

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01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 1: arrogant defensively, we were arrogant. Did he say that at

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01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: the comment? Yea, yeah, that's I think like the first day. Yeah, yeah,

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01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: it's amazing people. You know, it's funny. I heard that

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: in the combine and it was actually that's what I heard.

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01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? That's why? Well, I

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01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: think I think, um, I think that teams have figured

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01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: that defense out a little bit. And I think what

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01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I took it as is that we just kind of

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: continue doing what we did, thinking if we did it

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01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 1: at high enough a level that it wouldn't matter that

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01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: defense that teams kind of knew how to beat it.

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01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, Sean mcay and those guys,

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01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 1: I think that that system makes sense. Is we didn't

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01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: have to adjust. They need to They need to adjust

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01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah. Uh, let's say,

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01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 1: Nick from Ohio, been a while I've had a chance

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01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 1: to write in. I'm wondering what your moves with Slater is.

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01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: He's definitely a difference maker and a big leader on

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01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 1: the team. Of course he isn't making a big dollars,

2153
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 1: but when he retires, how do we replace that kind

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01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 1: of leadership and talent. I believe that he's a bigger

2155
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,640
Speaker 1: influence in the locker room than some people may realize.

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01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: If he wants to come to break it down back

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01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: at that point, yeah, I saw him. Our buddy Mike

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01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 1: Reese wrote that he's been He was in the facility

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot leading up to the Pro Bowl and has

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01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: continued to be a presence here now. I don't know

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01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: if he's dealing with some sort of injury. I guess

2162
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: as he'll be back, But if he's not, then I

2163
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: don't know. Three or sixty Justin Bethel, Brandon King, You've

2164
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: got plenty of guys who are special teams. Only you

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01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: put something, You put some back up cornerback at gunner

2166
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: next to Justin Bethel, and you know, Justin Bethel breaks

2167
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 1: down the crowd at the locker room. Who's gone. I'm

2168
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: not ripping, I'm actually ripping. I'm actually not for once.

2169
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm really not being snarky. I I just I love

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01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: Matthew Slater. I think he's a great guy, and I

2171
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: love that you know how little I got a chance

2172
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: to know him. Not going to pretend that I know

2173
01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: him because I talked to him in a locker room

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01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: a couple of times. I love the guy, sir. I'm

2175
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: glad I got a chance to meet him, Like I

2176
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: really like him alive. I just I'm sorry if I'm

2177
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and wonder where we're gonna turn

2178
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: next if we lose our gunner. A guy who plays

2179
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: ten plays a game, you know what the actual position.

2180
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 1: But what about the leadership in the locker room? Yeah,

2181
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I think other guys can be leaders, and I think

2182
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: other guys have to be leaders too. I think at

2183
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,600
Speaker 1: some point High Tower, mccordy and Slater aren't going to

2184
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 1: be here anymore, just like Brady and you know other

2185
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: great leaders were not here anymore either. Yeah, Drew Luck's

2186
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 1: on his way to Seattle. Part of the package. Is

2187
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: that part of the mega package? Drew Luck major? Straight up?

2188
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 1: He played college ball there, didn't he was Washington? Luck

2189
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: went to Missouri, Missouri. Who am I thinking of? It was? No?

2190
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: No Washington Well the same stage, Jake Locker, Jake Locker,

2191
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of. Randy and Pittsburgh, Could

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: you please explain what happens with contracts when players such

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01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,120
Speaker 1: as Brady come out of retirement. If Tom was to

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01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 1: come out of retirement, what are the Bucks options? I've

2195
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: heard they could play or trade him, but what if

2196
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: they don't want him and the trade is impossible, they'd

2197
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: have to release him? That can they just cut him?

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01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Is there any scenario where they would be obligated to

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01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: pay him? I'm worried that players could start using retirement

2200
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: to force their way out of contracts. Um see Gronkowski

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01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: Comma Rob. Yeah, Well, it's a risk on the players

2202
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 1: part too, because while you're in that retirement, you're not

2203
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: being paid. They could have said, and you're also a

2204
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: year older, or like Barry Sam the Lions said, Okay,

2205
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to play, Brady can come back. His

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01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: contract would be reinstated, and the Bucks would have to

2207
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: pay him. If they didn't want to play him on

2208
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: their team, they would have to trade him. And if

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01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't do that and didn't find anything, they would

2210
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 1: have to release them otherwise they would have to pay them,

2211
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: just like the Texans last year had to pay Deshaun

2212
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 1: Watson the whole year. Yeah, to sit right right. Maybe

2213
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Calvin Rill should fake retire right now. Travis in West Virginia.

2214
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: As it relates to the draft, I often hear the

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01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: phrase take a flyer on a guy. How exactly would

2216
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: you define this phrase? Can this happen in any round

2217
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: of the draft or just later rounds? What are the

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01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 1: what are some of the examples of Patriots doing this?

2219
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Did they take a flyer on? Yes? Tom Brady was

2220
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: absolutely a flyer? Yeah? And where did the phrase come from?

2221
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: What is it a reference to? Personally? I think it's

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 1: a BS phrase because no draft pick is a guarantee. Therefore,

2223
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: every draft pick essentially is a fly I would say,

2224
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where it came from, but I

2225
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: would say that Mike nails the Julian Edelman comp because

2226
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: I have a guy who has these skills. He played quarterback,

2227
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: so I can't use the quarterback skills, but I'm intrigued

2228
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: by what he can do athletically. I'm going to take

2229
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 1: a flier and see if I can find a spot

2230
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,920
Speaker 1: for him and figure it out. I wish we weren't

2231
01:56:57,960 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: up against it, because this would be a great topic

2232
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 1: for the next half hour, you know, figuring out epidomology.

2233
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 1: What is it called that one take take a flyer?

2234
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 1: What do you think just off the top of your head?

2235
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 1: And I know, Eric, whatever you say will be wrong.

2236
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 1: What do you think is the I think it could

2237
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: be very literal oranges. Like you if you're walking through

2238
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 1: like a supermarket and there's all kinds of flyers. Oh,

2239
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: I'll just take that flyer and see it's a freebe

2240
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: like at the end, maybe there's something like a date.

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01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it from a little Paul's taking

2242
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: a flyer on explaining what taking a flyer means exactly.

2243
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump off. And in the half hour

2244
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 1: conversation that we're now not going to be able to have,

2245
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: do you agree with Mike and I what on Edelman?

2246
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: I was a flyer, Like, wouldn't that be no idea

2247
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 1: what he was gonna do? You just took a flyer.

2248
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: But he has something that intrigues you. Yeah, So it's

2249
01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 1: not like you're just like saying, oh, I have no

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01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 1: idea who I'm gonna take. I'm gonna throw a dart

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,440
Speaker 1: at the darkboard wherever, Like that's just fluke luck. No,

2252
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: they identified a guy who had some skills. Yep, but

2253
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 1: they knew he couldn't play quarterback and they were just

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01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna take a flyer that they could make something. Did

2255
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots take a flyer on chat out Josinko? No, No,

2256
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: that's not a not a good Jonathan Sullivan? Maybe yeah,

2257
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 1: or like what about Steven Neil? They didn't draft him,

2258
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 1: but yes, but he's a wrestler. He's got he's got rough,

2259
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 1: he's got raw skills. Leverage these things. Maybe we can

2260
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 1: develop a mtual player, Tody. I gotta find out what

2261
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: the actual Marine Corps man has something. What do you got?

2262
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: Marine derives from the famous flexible flyer sleds, and that

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01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 1: taking a flyer means taking a wild ride or taking

2264
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,440
Speaker 1: a chance. So it's not what I flexible. Remember those

2265
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: the wooden sled I had the runners. Yeah, that's really

2266
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: kill yourself. That's flexible fly I was thinking of like

2267
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,000
Speaker 1: a one of those red saucers that will count. No, No,

2268
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 1: flexible flyer was the old wooden walking with two rails,

2269
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 1: had had the front the string and you can really

2270
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 1: slice somebody up with them. Yes, fit like a pizza

2271
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: an old pizza box and everytts. Let's go we're go

2272
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 1: down there. We had Toboggins, Guy Dale Park. Yeah, that's

2273
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: to this day. I don't know how there was never

2274
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: a fatality that was like it ends at like a highway. No,

2275
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: it ends right at the backstop from the back of

2276
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 1: the baseball diamond poles, like cemented, like, I don't know

2277
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 1: how we ever got hurt. We loved it. We loved it.

2278
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: Raise up to rise. All right, that's gonna be it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. As we see news

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Speaker 1: is coming fast and furious this week. We'll be back

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01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Thursday to update you on everything that happened. Thank you

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01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:44,640
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