1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Giants Huddle podcast nine Ball Papa. Today's 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: special guest, remember the Pro Football Hall of Fame Michael Strahan. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: You can subscribe to The Giants Huddle podcast on your 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: favorite podcast platforms, the Giants App and at Giants dot Com. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: We're joined by a member of the Pro Football Hall 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: of Fame and the Giants all time sack leader, Michael 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: Strahan and Michael news Broke earlier this week about the 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: passing of coach Fossil. What did he mean to you 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: as a player in a person I mean for a 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: player and the person everything. Uh. When he came to 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the Giants, it was you know that we had it. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: We did it. We had a good team under Dan 15 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Reeves for a while. When Jim Fossil came in, he 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: came in, took over a team has a lot of 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: turmoil and went on to win Coach of the Year 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: three Divisions titles in seven years and was pivotable for 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: me because it was the first time I ever felt 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: free to like play football and just have fun at 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: the game and that. You know, my first Pro Bowls 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: were with him, my first Super Bowl was with him, 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: And everybody had this thing either players coach He's this exactly. 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Was a very cool, chill, fun guy. You wanted to 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: hang out with him and talk to him. But man, 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: the hardest practice I've ever had were under him. I 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: mean he was coach who demanded for you to go 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: out and do your best and and and he required 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: that in practice as well as the game, which is 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: why we had success as the team under him. And um, 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: you know it's news at the shocked and surprised. Definitely 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: shocked and surprised me. He sat me because I just 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: never imagined this would would happen, you know, at that 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: at seventy one year of age. Michael. You know, um 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned that first year. Uh, here's this guy with 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the glasses coming in and uh, you know, the team 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: had struggled in those couple of years under coach Reeves 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: and now here you are winning the NFC East right 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: out of the gate, hosting a playoff game at Giant Stadium. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: But just talk about the confidence that you as a 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: young group built, you know with that first season with 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: him there and you guys winning the division title. I mean, 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: he really was amazing when he showed up and we 44 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: win that division title, because he was the kind of 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: coach that say, hey, this is what it is. We've 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: all seen the infamous speech that he gave about pushing 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: all your chips into the middle of the table. He's 48 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: all in. And that's really how he coached and how 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: he was the man I'm raising the stakes right now. 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: This is a poker game. I'm shoving my chips to 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the table. I'm raising the Auntie. Anybody 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: wants in, get in, anybody wants out can get out. Okay, 53 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: this team is going to the playoffs. And and that 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: gave us confidence. We have a coach who walks in 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: no one really knew him and where he came from 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: from a sense to where he would take over the 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: most storied franchise and one of the in the biggest 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: city in the country. He walked in like he belonged. 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: He made us feel like we belonged, that we were 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: supposed to win, that we were supposed to do all 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: the things that we did for success. And I just 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: he was just an incredible, incredible coach. Bob and and 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I just said, man, a loss of words that even 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: trying to sum up how much he meant to me, 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: because this is a guy that I still kept in 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: contact with and talked to quite a bit, and and 67 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and and used to see whenever I was out west 68 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: and and so it's a little it meant a lot 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: more than me I realized, especially now as a person 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: than even as a player. Michael, Um, you mentioned all 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: the chips to the center of the table. You know, 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: giant fans that they hear about it, they get fired up. Well, 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: how was it received within the locker room when you 74 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: heard him saying that, especially knowing that you were playing 75 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals that week were not exactly our house at 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: that point. Well, I kind of thought, this guy's kind 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: of crazy, he's desperate. Uh really, that's what it felt like. 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: But you know the point I will the part that 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: will say what I will say. Well, of that that 80 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: made you go, if you're if you're in, you're in. 81 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: If you're out, you're out. That part made me made 82 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: us go, oh, let's let's get in. Then let's get in, 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and from then we just like like hit our stride. 84 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: And it's amazing what what someone's words, how powerful words 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: could be. And that's a great lesson on how powerful 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: words could be in in success or how powerful words 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: can be in failure. Um, with your with your your team, 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: or your family or your kids, or whatever it may be. 89 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: But when he said that, party was like, Okay, let's 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: get going. But when you first heard that, I'm pushing 91 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: chips in the middle of the table. We're going to 92 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, You're like, has he even looked at the 93 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: same team we've been looking at. But we did it. 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: We did it as a and that was a testament 95 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: to him and his coaching style. If Dallas guy's not 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: a converted here, the whole game was over hand off. 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Jim has watched this team with four in a row 98 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: after his playoffs guarantee. His guarantee has come true. Ron 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: Dixon returns the opening kickoff for a touchdown that first 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: playoff game against the art rival Philadelphia Eagles, and you 101 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: can just feel that now this is a special team. 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: In a special moment, Seahorn makes the one of the 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: most incredible athletic plays ever. Um, you guys feel like 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: you had a kind of rolling at that point, absolutely absolutely, 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: And it was it was great to play the Eagles 106 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: because after the team which we are very familiar with 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: in the team that if you ever need to get 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: fired up, it didn't take much because that was was 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and and to beat them at home in 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: front about crowd was was electrifying. And Ron Dixon got 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: us off to a great start, Seahorn with that amazing, 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: amazing play. We had a really good team. I mean, 113 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: we had a lot of um young players but who 114 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: were trying to make a name for themselves. And no 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: better way to make a name for yourself is to 116 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: win the playoffs. Hey, Michael um, listen, a lot of 117 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: great games in Giants Stadium, the old Giants Stadium, but 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest game in the history of Giants Stadium 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: from a Giants perspective is forty one and nothing against 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in that NFC championship game. What was 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: his mindset going into that game and how did he 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: get you guys so prepared to not only win the game, 123 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: but to be as dominant as you were. I think 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: we just built off of what we had done in 125 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: the weeks before that. I think it was just an 126 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: accumulation of that confidence that he built on that confidence 127 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: and then once we started going up seven, It's like 128 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: a player just hitting three pointers, man, and can't freaking miss. 129 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: And then it became a conversation from him became to 130 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: our defense as a challenge. It's not so much of 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: winning the game, but can you win the game they 132 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: don't score point? And this is the offense with Colepepper, 133 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Randy moss um Um, Chris Carter, Robert Smith. I mean, 134 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: his offense was scoring points after point on everybody and 135 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to hold them to zero. That meant a lot to him, 136 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that meant a lot to the defense. I remember Harry 137 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Carthon LT all the giants, grads on the sideline going um, 138 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: keep them to keep them down, don't get don't don't, 139 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: don't let him score anything. And to have that mindset 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: was I think the reason why we were able to 141 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: do that. I will say it is the greatest game, 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: but I know I've ever played and at that giant 143 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: stadium as far as a totally dominating performance, the leadership 144 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: that he exhibited nine eleven when you guys came back 145 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: from Denver and nine eleven happened, and the role that 146 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: he played and the continuing role all those years later 147 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: through his foundation uh, to help those first responders, and 148 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: you were right there front and center. UM, can you 149 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: just talk about that point in time in your life 150 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: and his leadership in that situation. I think we all 151 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: understood when that happened that it was there were one 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: thing more serious than football, more important football, and that's 153 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: why he did the things during and after. But it 154 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: was very important for him to honor the first responders. 155 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: And that's why we have our our f d n 156 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Y hats on, a police hats on. Everybody has facing 157 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: forward when we take this picture. You look into that camera. 158 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't want any backwards hats. I don't want anybody, 159 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, looking to the side. He made sure that 160 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: we understood why we have UM and we understood the 161 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: heroes who were doing a job that you wish no 162 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: one would ever have to do. And we went down 163 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: that first weekend. He's right there with us the week 164 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: it You you actually saw it, Bob, I mean you're 165 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: you're just overwhelmed by the destruction and and like, where 166 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: do you even begin to piece this all back together? 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: And Um, it was a very defining moment, I want 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: to say, in the history of our team, but also 169 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: in in his coaching tenure, how he responded to that, 170 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: and how he made sure that we all understood how 171 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: important it is and how honored we should be to 172 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: represent New York City and represent all these first responders 173 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: that who have gone down there and they ran towards 174 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: all the dangerous that of away from it, and that 175 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: we should be honored to go out here and play 176 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: for them. And and I that never got lost on me, 177 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: that you know what, you're not here just playing for 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: yourself year out here playing for all those people who 179 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: want to watch you on Sunday. Be proud of something 180 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: that represent the great city of New York, because we 181 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: were proud of the way that they represented the country themselves. 182 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: What would be your message to Giants fans as the 183 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: ultimate takeaway? Uh in coach Fossil, as a person, as 184 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: a coach, as a mentor, and someone as you said 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: that you keep in touch with. Well, I think the 186 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: ultimate takeaway is here a guy who came in and 187 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: and what is it say? You know New York, If 188 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. 189 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: He made it here. And I don't think there were 190 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: many people when he got here really thought he would. 191 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: And and I think I look back on his legacy 192 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: and I'm very proud of the man he was, the 193 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: coach he was, how he came into New York and 194 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: took over a team and turned the team around, let 195 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: that team to some gloryful, gloriful wins and gloriful years. 196 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: Um didn't win the Super Bowl, but we got there 197 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: with what a lot of people deemed to be the 198 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: worst team ever to make it out of the NFC. 199 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: But if that's the case, boy, how talented is he 200 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: to get the worst team ever out of NFC into 201 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? And I just want fans to to 202 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: just realize that his legacy when you see how many 203 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: the winds and the successes of the Giants, he had 204 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: a big part of that. And he had a big 205 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: part of me being a player that that I became 206 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: and and being you know, watching the future generation the 207 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: guys after me because the things that I got from 208 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: him that keeps on passing down to generating the generation 209 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: of players and and so what we seen the future 210 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: will definitely still have a piece of Jim Fossile involved 211 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: in it. And I also want to send my my 212 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: condolecens to his family, Kitty and the kids, and and 213 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and the grandkids, and and just send our ur condolens 214 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and our love for myself and obviously from the Giant 215 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: family out there, Giant nation, Michael, obviously during this tough time, UM, 216 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: a sad time for all of us that worked with 217 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: them and are around him. Thank you so much for 218 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: sharing a couple of minutes with us here to talk 219 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: about the passing and Coach Fossil. Well, you know what, 220 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a tough time. It's a sad time. But 221 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Bobby gave me a lot of joy, 222 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of great memories, and UM, without him, I 223 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: definitely know that I'm not sitting here with you. I'm 224 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: not remembered by any Giant fan or anything like that. 225 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: This man gave me a life, gave me a career, 226 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: and I'm indebted to him and his family. So I 227 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: think we should celebrate Jim Fossil as well, and I 228 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: know he wanted that way. Thank you so much, Michael. 229 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: All right, thanks, but that's Michael Strahan. We want to 230 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: thank him for joining us this edition of the Giants 231 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: Puddle Podcast. Remember, if you're on Apple Podcast, please leave 232 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: a five star positive review. Better you just saw Michael Strahan, 233 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: we'll see you next time.