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We have 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:52.640 an NBA champion, some w NBA talk, some Olympic talk. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.400 We're gonna talk a little bit about the draft and 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.800 what we're learning about what's going on in the draft, 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:02.040 particularly Bronnie, and some other great topics as well. So 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.440 stick around, kick your feet up. The VC Show starts. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:12.080 Now he on that got what they wanted then signed 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:18.080 you run all right, everybody, We now have a NBA champion. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:23.200 Congratulations to the Boston Celtics getting it done in what 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:27.360 we consider the gentlemen's suite. You know, they answered a 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:34.000 lot of questions, critics they were obviously under a microscope 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:40.160 all season long, and even particularly into the playoffs, into 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.520 the start of the finals, where you know people are saying, 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.000 all right, well, are they really that good because of 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.960 you know, the teams they played, star players were down 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.520 or whatever. Well it's you answer that question by saying, hey, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.200 that's not our fault. We did was supposed to do. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:01.040 And they answered the call, took the challenge when it 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:08.440 was time, and then the question was, Okay, I think 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:13.920 we all understood how important Porzingis was for them all season, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.600 so the question that needed to be answered then was 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.200 can they win in the big game without them? And 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.560 boy did they do so. Porzingis was fantastic in Game one, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.840 gave him what he had in Game two, tried to 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:37.320 get himself back, just motivation. But I just this team. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:42.040 They were hitting on all cylinders all playoff long, and 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:49.440 it's hard to deny their accomplishment. And as much as 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.120 I applaud Dallas, I thought they were very good and 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.600 I thought it would be a very good series. I 0:02:55.600 --> 0:03:00.079 didn't know if entertaining series because of the drama to 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:05.320 see what Kyrie Luca, who was on a killing spree, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.880 just doing this thing, and then the Celtics as a 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:16.720 team playing well, the question can can Tatum play well 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.320 and lead the team? They were winning? They won big. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.520 He didn't play great. I think he had two great 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:26.080 game games in this series, averaging twenty two eight and seven, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.800 but he shot only thirty nine percent from the field 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.160 twenty six percent from the three. The numbers, as far 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:35.960 as you know what you read, aren't great when you 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.280 talk about your star player. But at the same time, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:46.360 at the same time, he understood the situation. He did 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.680 not force the issue when he was not shooting well. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:56.640 He made plays for other guys, and he allowed the MVP, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.560 Jalen Brown, the opportunity to go and do what he 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.320 needed to do. So congratulations, first of all goes out 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.360 to Jaylen Brown. I thought he was one of three 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:14.640 consistent players for the Boston Celtics. He was number one. Obviously, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.640 he averaged twenty point eight so almost twenty one game, 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.560 five rebounds, five assists, took the challenge on guarding Luka Doncic, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.920 and he was great. He was great, and Luca is 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:33.000 a hard guard, and he took on the challenge period. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.320 And then I think Drew Holliday was fantastic. I mean, 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.080 you know, when you talk about a guy who was 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.159 considered one of your role players, but a very important 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:49.120 guy through three games, his name was floating around, let's 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.760 say whispers about possibly and potentially being an MVP. And 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:58.360 then there's Derek White whose name was floating around for 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:05.640 potentially being up for MVP. I'm talking about guys that 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.039 know their role and do it extremely well. You know. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:14.440 For you guys, young players, I know, we all want 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.800 to be stars. We all want an opportunity to have 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.039 a friend, to be the man for a franchise. But 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:23.960 you can still be the man for a franchise as 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.400 a role player. And let me tell you something, I 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.880 guarantee Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and the Boston Celtics 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:38.120 organization view Derek White and Drew Holliday as superstars because 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:43.240 of the role that they had all playoffs, not just 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.320 the finals. Throughout all the playoffs, Derek White was fantastic 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.760 guard in different positions, hit down big shots. We know 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.040 what Drew was doing on the defensive end. Uh. Just 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:58.279 everything in general was just it was fun to watch. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.479 I mean it just they made a very good Dallas 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:08.520 Mavericks team look average normal because they were playing out 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.440 of their minds. Dallak Mavericks, and they were stepping up 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.680 to the plate where everybody felt like, oh, a lot 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.800 of people who picked Dallas to win this series. And 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.320 if you guys recall last week, I spoke about one 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:26.839 thing that would be a challenge, well a few things, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.360 but one thing in particular that would be a challenge. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.800 I felt for the Mavericks, but particularly for the individual 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:40.520 player in Kyrie trying to find his way more so 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.360 than obviously winning. It's an unbelievable record that he has 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.080 right now, streak going on as far as playing against Boston, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.279 and I don't know if that record is just for 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.279 I think it's just playing against Boston, not really at Boston, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.719 but obviously at Boston he was a different guy. And 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.240 I spoke on just how tough it is to be 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.840 mentally strong and kind of stay locked in. I mean, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.839 if you mean, you're playing for the NBA Finals, so 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.400 it should be easy to lock in. But at the 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.200 same time, like, whether he admit it or not, it's 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.000 his kryptonite, you know, it's just fair to say it's 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.320 like it's his kryptonite. And the moment, I think fans 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.600 felt like they can affect him with what said. I 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.520 mean they were saying some crazy stuff, of course, but 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.040 when they felt like they continue to pour it on. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:31.160 Kyrie is a champion and already he was. He's one 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.160 of the best players in the league. He was playing 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.120 like it. It's this. I mean, we saw what he 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.240 did in Game three, in Game four. I mean, he 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.840 just he's a special player and it's just a tough 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.560 situation where he just if if they're if they're playing 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.600 against anybody else, you'll see a better version of Kyrie. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:57.200 And I know the different channels sports shows talking about uh, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:01.040 you know, they felt that Kyrie was out of it Dallas. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.880 I just from what I saw, yes, you could ride 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.040 the momentum, but they were riding the momentum of playing 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.800 great in the series before coming into Boston. It's just 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.720 the actual reality of it is that it's just a 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.040 tough place to play for Kyrie. You know, whether he 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.600 mints it or not, and that's fine if he does not, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.640 but you know, at the same time, he's a monster. 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.360 He's a beast, and congratulations to him and his team 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:26.880 on a good season. Another thing I loved to highlight 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.240 and I talked to a lot of people throughout the 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.120 five games series that was going on, and that people 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.400 always ask my opinion on it, and I thought, there's 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:43.080 two things that I noticed and that the Boston Celtics did, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:51.840 and it was quite interesting. One they allowed Luca to 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.800 get the switch he wanted to play one on one 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.840 and put up the numbers he chose to because he 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.040 you know, he holds the ball, he gets into his 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.880 bag and he's a have to score. He averaged twenty 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.040 nine for this series. And I did say I felt 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.960 Jalen Brown guarded him extremely well, and what I mean 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.440 is that he's frustrated him and there were times where 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.040 you could see the frustration. So they mixed it up. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.040 And I always say, as a star player being in 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.320 that position, if you allow star player to get used 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:29.640 to one style of one defense, one guy, one situation, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.840 they will exploit you and dominate you. And we saw 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.640 that in Game four. We saw that, like they got 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.679 whatever they wanted, Luca got whatever they wanted. And when 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:46.680 you allow Luca to not only score, but get other 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.520 guys involved, get the lib get the skip passed for 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.920 open threes, or do whatever he wants, get you in 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:57.439 foul trouble you're not going to beat him. Well, they 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.240 allowed Luca to go get his but made sure they 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:06.160 stayed home on Kyrie, and they chose who would be 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.800 the designated shooter for them, took away the lob plays. Yes, 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.720 they eventually Game four, they got the lob and everything 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.440 they wanted. But and all in all, they made the 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.959 game tough for him. Then they would switch and give 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.880 him a different look every now and then they would 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.080 double team him. Now that these other guys are out 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.079 of rhythm from Luca playing one on one, now you 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.960 double team him, giving them a different look. Now you're 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.520 making Derrick Jones Junior the shooter. And he hit them, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:36.719 but will he hit enough? Or you're making Lively and 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:43.920 Gaffer the decision decision makers. They didn't contest with a 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.120 full out contest on PJ. Washington. They were playing the 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.360 percentage game. Yes, he hit some and he got going 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.280 a little bit, but they played the percentage game because 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.560 you figure you frustrate Luca by getting the ball out 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.720 of his hands, particularly high off the court, and then 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.040 you try to deny and where he has to watch 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.680 other guys play basketball, and he got frustrating outside of 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.600 the fact that he was trying to draw a foul 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.840 or flop you know, the flop play, or complaining every play. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.280 So you can just see the frustrating, the frustration seeping in, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.000 particularly in the first three first three games, and it 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:25.000 wasn't much complaining in game four because he did everything 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.720 he wanted to do on the floor. So and he 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.160 tried his best Game five not to really get to 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:35.880 engage with the referees, and Kyrie was just trying. I mean, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.480 he was trying to hit the home run every play. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.560 It's just this is a tough situation. Man, It's just unfortunate. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.960 But I felt like Boston had an unbelievable game plan. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:50.080 They had a lot of guys out there that cat 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.000 guard him and out I was reading comments like, oh man, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.000 all these guys can't guard. It's not the fact, it's 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.760 just the fact that you give Luca different looks from 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.760 Houser to Tatum, to Drew to Derek White, Oh yeah, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:07.360 Jalen Brown, Oh yeah. You give him perzingers every now 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.439 and then. Oh you also give him al Horford a 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.080 little bit. So it's a it was just giving them 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.800 a different look. So he couldn't find the rhythm of 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.440 just beating one guy. Yeah, so he may beat Hawser 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.320 off the drib a little bit. But at the same time, 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.280 Hauser played great defense sometimes and Luca was just hitting 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.920 tough shots. He's a tough shot maker. I also want 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.800 to give a shout out. I mentioned Al Horford. Shout 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.160 out to Al Horford. Man played in the league forever, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:37.640 been around, and he was able to get it done. Man. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.640 It was just it was great to see the elation 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:49.839 and the excitement and disbelief. He just couldn't believe it. Man, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.440 It's just it's just a great feeling. It's always cool 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:57.920 to watch the initial reactions after teams win the championship. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.600 And as much as we a lot of people felt. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.080 You talk about numbers, when you look at the actual numbers, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.319 Jason Tatum might have had better numbers. Jaln Brown was 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.920 probably the most consistent player. He delivered each and every 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.720 night on both ends of the floor. I think they 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.920 both had great comments. I know we all were looking 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.200 at we all were looking at Tatum's reaction to see 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.400 how he reacted, But I mean, I just think it 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.079 was the right decision in my opinion. So the next 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.400 thing that was talked about, obviously after the game was 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:38.360 will we see a repeat? Well, we see a repeat. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.680 I think Boston will be right there again. They'll have 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:48.040 a chance to be right there again, obviously, Mike. If 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.600 you guys think back to the beginning of the season, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:55.360 my question was porzingis being healthy and if he was 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.760 not healthy, do you have enough and can you get 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.640 a enough out of Al Horford? You did and they 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.920 were able to. He was prasinga stay healthy most of 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.199 the season where Al was not worn down come playoff 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.360 time and you got the best version of Al Horford 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 in the playoffs, which it worked out great for him. 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.320 Luke Cornette, I think did his job and played his 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.880 role well all season. They didn't use him in the playoffs. Cool, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.320 That's not what his role was. His role was to 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.840 be consistent and to get to buy them minutes throughout 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.080 the season so you don't wear down Al Horford because 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.440 Al Horford's worth to the Boston Celtics, in my opinion, 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.760 was what we saw in the playoffs where you're gonna 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.560 need him to knock down threes, obviously, but to have 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.680 to switch and guard some of the faster players in 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:50.280 the scores where you don't have to put yo you're 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.520 gonna put him in situations where he has to guard it, 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.080 but he's capable because he's not worn down. So uh 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.560 it was. It was just job well done by the 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:05.880 front off office, just putting in the right pieces. We 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.560 heard Joel and B said, yes, did Milwaukee gift the 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.080 championship to Boston? Mister Joel and B, you could be 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:19.440 correct because Drew Holliday is the glue and a piece 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.160 where I think you can plug and play him anywhere 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:28.560 because of his unselfishness, his unselfishness and his ability to 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.360 score when needed, but his willingness to guard multiple positions. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.200 It didn't matter. Man. He was guarding Luca in the post, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.080 he was guarding some of the Bigs in switches while 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.280 Al Horford was out there on the perimeter trying to 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.760 box those guys out and stuff. So they have a 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.960 very special team. But in the East alone, we have 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.600 to think of I'm gonna work my way up with 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.600 the magic will look like next year. I think they're 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.600 gonna still be very good. The Pacers, we'll get into that. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:07.280 The seventy six ers getting healthy and see what that 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:14.760 looks like. The Knicks getting healthy. I don't know how 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.720 I forget them, sorry Jannis. But the Milwaukee Bucks, once 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.200 they get healthy, they're coming back. We know Giannis is 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.400 coming back with vengeance, with the vengeance and he's in 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.800 the lab getting ready. So look out for the Milwaukee 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.760 Bucks as well. This I mean, that will probably be 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.000 why that's probably the first team I should have said, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:38.200 is the Milwaukee Bucks. So the East will be interesting. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.720 The West next year is gonna also be very interesting 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.920 because I think we don't know what Phoenix is gonna 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.920 look like. We know Denver is gonna have a shot Memphis. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:59.600 See what Houston looks like. Clippers. That's just the name 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.360 for you. See with Golden State, like I mean, we 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.240 always see you have teams that we could like, hey, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.920 we'll just see what what they look like and just 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:23.440 just helped alone. Now let's get into free agency. Indiana 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:28.160 signed Siakam or Web sign Siakam for four years basically 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.399 one and a half quick numbers, that's like forty seven 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.040 and some chains a year for Pascal. So they're secure 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.439 and now they just plug and play pick get some 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.959 pieces that they need in free agency to add on. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:50.119 Then there's uh, the obvious Lebron and it'd be interesting 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.080 to see what he does, because I feel like, in 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:55.840 my mind, I think he's gonna go back to LA 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.760 He has everything he wants there. You know, they just 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.639 need to upgrade their team, but his life, everything he wants, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.440 his businesses that are there, so it makes sense. But 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:12.240 you never know, you never know James Harden. I feel 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:17.200 like James Harden, it's happy where he is. So I 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.640 don't know if it's what the price, what the number 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:26.760 will look like. And then there's PG with that to 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.080 see what happens there. Because I feel like, as I'm 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.320 thinking about it, well, I think James will wait to 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.800 see what PG does before he makes his decision. I 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.920 think that's because it's interesting. We've heard Paul George's name 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.680 to a lot of teams where he you know, he 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.119 could possibly be a fit, or he can stay with 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.000 the Clippers and they run it back and try it 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.600 again with that same team. You know, you always like 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.880 to have your your core guys together for as long 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.480 as possible. To have a great coach in tyleru So 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.359 who also has done well for himself this summer. And 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:07.639 then there's o g with the Knicks. We saw I 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:13.520 read about his his offer from the Knicks and he 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.320 wasn't happy, so he's opened himself up to free agency. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.560 Who he would be a great, great pick for a 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:27.399 lot of teams. I think the seventy six Ers would 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:28.720 love to have him. I think he'll be a great 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:33.679 piece for them. He'll be a great piece for a 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.760 couple of teams. The first team that comes to mind 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.760 is the seventy six Ers. He's a three n D 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:43.840 guy that can take a lot of pressure off of 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.399 your two star players. Because we know Maxie he was 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.560 a free agent free agent. Also, I think who had 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.959 a great year. Who's gonna get paid this this summer? 0:19:53.760 --> 0:20:00.000 Klay Thompson. That's an interesting one for the simple fact, yeah, 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:06.119 everything behind it. We heard that he unfollowed the Warriors. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.560 Some of the players, uh, I don't know. Draymond and 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:13.399 other guys don't seem to worry, aren't too worried about it. 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:19.240 But it's just interesting, you know, just gets people talking. 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.880 You see Clay is playing with the Bahamian national team, 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.800 which is interesting. I think they have some pretty interesting 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.840 pieces there. I'll tap into that later, but Clay Thompson 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:40.000 is another guy who will be a hot topic in 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:46.200 in a wanted piece for a lot of teams. Clay 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.760 Thompson with the Magic, Clay Thompson with the Sixers. Maybe 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.400 Clay Thompson. I don't know how you make that work 0:20:54.720 --> 0:21:01.200 with the Lakers, but he's a guy that can can 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:06.760 can put a team over the over the top with 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.879 Claike Thompson. Malik Monk is another guy that I feel 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.639 like as a guy with a team that needs a 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:19.120 score off the bench, Phoenix shoot, he can go back 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.840 to Sack and they can run that back as well. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.480 I think he's going to be important piece. I think KCP, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.840 who's a free agent, He's he's going to play a 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:28.720 huge role to help get a team over the top. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.520 Another three and D guy, role player that knows his 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.560 role and plays it to the best of his ability. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.879 So and then lastly the DeMar Derozen and this is 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.159 just the name of you. I know there's a lot 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.800 of others, but these are some of the big names 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:48.800 that I think that could outside of Lebron maybe hardened 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.600 depending on what PG does, stay where they are. I 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:56.600 think those other guys I mentioned, uh PG, possibly Clay 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:00.879 og Leak and Case could be on the move to 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.879 help a contending team and DeRozan could also be that 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.920 guy to help a contending team, another solid superstar who 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:13.719 could play beside another star. You know, here's your veteran. 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:19.640 Here's another guy like DeRozan that could possibly be in Orlando. 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.679 You got to figure out what you're gonna do. If 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.200 you bring him, it could work. I think that can work. 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.640 You move Franz to possibly the four is to play 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.359 some four. I don't know if that's this cup of tea, 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:40.480 but you can or you put the young fella at 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.680 the four. Franz can play the small forward. I think 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.520 they can make that work. Over there. There's a bunch 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.239 of options for DeRozan as well. So I say all 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.280 of this to say that it'll be interesting to see 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.880 what all of these teams that we said get healthy. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.520 Then you go and add a free agent or too 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.359 to make your team better. Maybe some of them names 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.600 we mentioned. Maybe it's more because I'm sure you guys 0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.960 are having conversations now trying to put these guys into 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:08.760 places that makes sense for either your team or someone 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:13.640 else's team. So that's the beauty of podcasting and listening 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:20.200 and creating conversation about free agency and where guys could 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.199 go or potentially go or they could just do what 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:27.280 Pascal Si I can didn't stay there and write it out. 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.720 Free agency is always interesting because I think back to 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.240 when I was a free agent and I was up 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:42.439 lockout hits, and I knew I wasn't coming off the 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.640 board as what some of the first free agents to go. 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.520 But at the same time, I knew I if I 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.720 would wait, my time, my time would come and I'll 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:55.560 fall in my slot of need want in teams contacting. 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.480 And I got that phone call from Dallas and Mark 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:06.080 Cuban was a very interesting conversation. You know, you always 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:11.760 see Mark Cuban from from the outside. Getting the conversation 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.879 having a conversation with him was pretty cool. My conversation 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.720 with the Memphis Grizzlies was actually pretty dunk cool. They 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:23.760 got on a plane and came on down. Had a 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:28.119 great conversation, as well as my conversation with Sacramento Kings. 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.320 I'm sure y'all said, wait, you play for the Kings. Yes, 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.840 I did. I played for the Kings for a year 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:36.000 and Lottie, they made the trip down. We had a 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:42.399 great conversation, great opportunity. So free agency is always nerve 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:48.520 racking for some when you're in the position as a 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:54.040 free agent to make the moves, decisions, moved the needle 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.040 of how things go, kind of like where Lebron is. 0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.040 I think PG is in a position where he where 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:06.200 he goes is gonna determine where some of these guys 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:12.280 like a OG, maybe even Clay end Up uh OG 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.440 and O G hit me out OG and Golden State. 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.600 Oh that would be a good one too. Go ahead, 0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:24.800 y'all talk about that. But yeah, I just I just 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.040 I remember even my even my conversations. I had a 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:32.240 great conversation in Atlanta also with Lloyd Pierce Man. It's 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.920 just obviously the conversation. It's funny over the years how 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.119 the conversations changed. Uh, you know, they always talking. We 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:40.040 know you're older, but we just want you to be 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.080 a locker room guy. Be this with that. And I 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.200 was up front with what I what I was looking 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.160 for and what I wanted to do. I was all 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:52.000 all in for mentoring guys and being an example in 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.840 the locker room and helping guys navigate through their careers. 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.560 But I felt like as a player, you still for 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.320 young guys, it's easy to go talk to them and 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.320 help them verbally, but when you go out there and 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.080 go out on the court and physically show them what 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.240 that conversation looks like. I think that's when you're worth 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.040 to a team is elevated. So that was some great 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.080 conversations in Atlanta. I had some great games in Atlanta 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.320