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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>Senior VP of Football Operations Brandon Whofras, Susna Susna we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We got schedule released as from the player's perspective, do

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<v Speaker 1>we care? Do we not care? Say to me to

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<v Speaker 1>find out. And we got OTA's which you're always fun

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about it. We've got VR training. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>It all starts right out.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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<v Speaker 1>with Fred Spoot and Santana Moss and guys. Well, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about this Fred. Yeah, just went on a trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did trip with the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Drove all the way down to Birmingham, Alabama for au

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<v Speaker 3>tournament with you. Saw a lot of people down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Then household Joe back to Virginia for the Dale Green

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<v Speaker 3>Foundation Tournament golf tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I helped raise almost thirty five fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in the auction. I'm the auctioneer, so I hear.

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<v Speaker 1>You were not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm an auction.

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<v Speaker 1>Good job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get people to dig in their pockets. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Dig in the pockets, get that well, we take the

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<v Speaker 3>kind at Jingles, but we'd rather have the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>folk like that, just what it is. And we raised

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<v Speaker 3>over thirty thousand dollars and forty five minutes yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you got he got a lot of practice

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<v Speaker 2>from his dad in the church. Yeah, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how it go. Hear that we take the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of we love the you all heard of that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time place around. Don't put no change in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they still give like I didn't. I didn't been

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<v Speaker 1>an auctional while do they still give like money? They give

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<v Speaker 1>like checks and they get.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, well now they can do it instantly.

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<v Speaker 3>They can walk around with the credit card thing, or

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<v Speaker 3>they can write a check and stuff like that. We

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple of their jersey's self up close to

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<v Speaker 3>four thousand dollars. Yes suff we was even selling just

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<v Speaker 3>regular golf shirts. I talked to them and just buying

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<v Speaker 3>them for three hundred dollars. So whatever he is selling,

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<v Speaker 3>you need a salesman. And see, I think in my

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<v Speaker 3>former life I used to be a daughter door a

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<v Speaker 3>vacuum salesman in the early seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough, living, man, It's rough. You got a vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care, dude. I had a guy come buy

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<v Speaker 1>my house the other day and you don't like they're

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<v Speaker 1>selling pest control or whatever, and you know usually sow.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sir, we don't spray, Like my wife doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to spray because you don't want to touch. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because we got dogs or something. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so we don't. We don't. We've never used it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've in our house for ten years. You don't spray

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<v Speaker 1>for pests. Yeah, he goes, I appreciate that, sir, But

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<v Speaker 1>what about this? And I was like, you know, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking. This guy came back at me relentlessly five

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<v Speaker 1>or six times.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the skills.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not I'm not exaggerating. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, no, thank you. Oh what about this?

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<v Speaker 1>You showed me a picture or something about this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is scary. You want to go? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>he showed you.

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<v Speaker 2>A praying man could be tech. They need his one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they need one person. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't be a salesman because once you tell me no,

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<v Speaker 4>you won't turn around and going to the But that's

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<v Speaker 4>how they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They knock on your door.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd be like yeah, look like you need a roof,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd be like, no, this roof just got put

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<v Speaker 3>on three years and they're like, oh okay, uh in

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<v Speaker 3>five years you need to return, you need to replace

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<v Speaker 3>the No, no, no, these are supposed to be thirty shit.

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<v Speaker 1>If everyone they go like, well, you know, like with

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<v Speaker 1>those big storms we've had, you might want us to

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<v Speaker 1>go up and look and we'll replace it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like pulling ship off knowing not that we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>anyone do anything untoward there, but of course.

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<v Speaker 2>They thet salesman like this, like that's what we are

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the United States. We know things a

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<v Speaker 2>certain way, but then we just we choose not the

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<v Speaker 2>liok it. We know what cost salesman. It's sleazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I saying what you want to they're gonna say it

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<v Speaker 3>you a car by any means necessity.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about Tannem was just talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Jason about cars and how that is and anyway, that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I know we started talking about salesman

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever because friends of salesman. But I really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up your trip to Birmingham because your daughter

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<v Speaker 1>got a scholarship offer them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she did cap Berkeley for this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinks she's you know, she she's getting there where she

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<v Speaker 1>get that from that basketball?

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<v Speaker 2>But she got it from my daddy Russell has Yeah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's built exactly like me.

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<v Speaker 1>We got video evidence fight no listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was exhausted, like he's a tank, all right, and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes like they say, you can't fight a tank with

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<v Speaker 3>a dirt, boy, Now you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he was just leaning on men.

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<v Speaker 3>He would literally take the ball out and hand it

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<v Speaker 3>to me like an inch, Like who does that? Like

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<v Speaker 3>this is a guy that felt like if I let

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<v Speaker 3>his quickness come into this, I won't be to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't. I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, That's that's who you are. But that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta say this. Congratulations to Kendrick Ghosted and you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>And of those guys they would take on the head

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<v Speaker 3>coaching job and stone Bridge and Virginia, I can't Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see that staff.

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<v Speaker 2>You I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not coaching. This is what I will do.

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<v Speaker 3>I will train, I will help guys, and I will

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<v Speaker 3>talk to him and I will mentor then coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's too much time, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of time. They give you a something.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna give you a stip, but it's literally like

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<v Speaker 1>seven dollars. It's like seven dollars an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that in low count. Yeah, you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>leave while coaching in lowcot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one hundred percent true. All right, So just

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder, we got that hawk outside dot com, that

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<v Speaker 1>hawk outside, that hawk outside dot com. Yeah at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. G maybe, Yeah, let's make sure that's clear,

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<v Speaker 1>that hawk outside at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And so we got we're getting out shirts, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Fred, Yeah, free shirt, free shirts shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty winners for a free shirt this is and then

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<v Speaker 1>five money lucky winners for us, signed shirt by all

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<v Speaker 1>three of us. Yeah, and this is the last opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>This is last time we're gonna do it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make our selections here very soon, right, Jason, that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up making those selections. He's nodding, last chance. So make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get that those submissions in. You guys done

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<v Speaker 1>a great job. And also that's a great spot to

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<v Speaker 1>leave show ideas moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell us. What you want us to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>any subjects in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're talking about the mailman segment, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Mailman, the milkmandy, whoever it is, these jobs

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<v Speaker 3>have all died.

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<v Speaker 2>Preacher Man by the way, you know it was Man. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever anything and with Man, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got a live show coming up right

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<v Speaker 1>on June fourteenth. We're finalizing the location now, but make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you guys keep an eye out for that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to kind of determine the best spot to get

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<v Speaker 1>that done and hopefully you guys come out and support

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<v Speaker 1>us for the live event. That's pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's going to be very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I can Is it like at a bar you think,

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<v Speaker 1>or like an auditorium?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it should be at a bar. You need

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<v Speaker 2>alcohol flowing? Where you went to the spot that will

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<v Speaker 2>be doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we we don't know. Yeah, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, finally, everyone calm down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah everyone, we haven't figured it out. I heard some

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<v Speaker 2>names and I gotta look, it's all good. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in talks. We negotiate, feel very we're at the we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the five yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to punch it in sometimes handed off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no is a game man, She's finished in.

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<v Speaker 1>That drive can be really tough, Yeah, really really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>So depending on who you haven't running back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right, Christie watched some yesterday, just watching it

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<v Speaker 3>coming up the highway.

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<v Speaker 2>We're listening to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You's doing driving the car like I do a.

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<v Speaker 3>Good like when I'm driving long distance. I don't listen

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<v Speaker 3>to music. I don't listen to sports talk. I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to YouTube breakdowns, nerdy stuff. And then I happen to

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<v Speaker 3>come pile as a gang clip and I We're watching

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<v Speaker 3>the two thousand and one game Panthers against Washington at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and the old Baya cast Stephen Davis was

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<v Speaker 3>running it all down heels man.

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<v Speaker 1>It does help having a big guy down there inside

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<v Speaker 1>the five yard line, all right. So that's it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sure you come out, stay tuned to all

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<v Speaker 1>of our content for that live event. The time that

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<v Speaker 1>the date is June fourteenth, the time to be determined, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>location to be determined, So you have to stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>to find out on all that stuff is how do

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<v Speaker 1>So let's stay stay with it all right now in

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<v Speaker 1>Commander's news. We've got some kind of exciting news this

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<v Speaker 1>I was. The more research we did for this show,

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<v Speaker 1>the more excited I got about this. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>new senior VP of Football off Operations, Brandon Sosa.

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<v Speaker 2>Sosna is sona, sona, sona.

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<v Speaker 1>You're bad with pronunciations on I'm bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm worth too, but I've heard.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll call him Brandon fro.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason put whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So basically he is the new Senior VP of

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<v Speaker 1>Football Operations. But man, he has a crazy crazy resume

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<v Speaker 1>but also crazy like job description at the moment. So

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<v Speaker 1>first off, he reports directly JP. He's the lead contract negotiator.

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<v Speaker 1>He oversees not only analytics but also health and performance

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<v Speaker 1>and also football administration. He's the liaison to business operations

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<v Speaker 1>get their stadium bill, and he's got a major role

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<v Speaker 1>in roster, construction, salary, cap and the CBA. Heude's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one years old. Yeah, like, and that just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got his hand in everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like he's a nerd.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, this is what I that's what I like.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, rhythme is a French word. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, back to me right at.

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<v Speaker 1>The end of the day. I think, no, he's.

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<v Speaker 3>So, he's one of these He's one of these brainy

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<v Speaker 3>exit I'm just so happy, man, Like they're not cutting

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<v Speaker 3>any corners. Like you look at what we had in

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<v Speaker 3>the front office and just people taking on like nine

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<v Speaker 3>and ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Jobs and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I could just wonder how scratch for their job as

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<v Speaker 3>being for the last ten to fifteen years. And now

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<v Speaker 3>we got people in here to do certain things and

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<v Speaker 3>people overlapping each other, yah doing these things. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that chicken balance system is gonna help us out

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<v Speaker 3>in the long run. And we're cherry picking from some

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<v Speaker 3>of the best franchises in the league, and we're promoting

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<v Speaker 3>these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way things are supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think, you know, it's a brilliant way these

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<v Speaker 4>guys have been doing things, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you really sit back and watch, I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>could say the Harrison Crew, Harrison Company when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to just everybody you know who putting their hands into

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<v Speaker 4>this party and is stirring it up and making sure

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<v Speaker 4>that they get the right guys for the right job.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for each and every job. It's very strategic

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<v Speaker 2>and cutting.

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<v Speaker 4>They come out from a guy you're pulling from other

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<v Speaker 4>teams that was using these guys and probably sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>the situation right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're they hate to have this loss on it. They

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<v Speaker 2>got to replace. Yeah, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I said, I can't say it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ecstatic just to see how this thing really comes

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, I guess bruition, you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>mean when it comes to all the different things that

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<v Speaker 4>they have to do that we never think about or

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<v Speaker 4>talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>We just play ball here.

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<v Speaker 4>We never knew how important a guy like this meant

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<v Speaker 4>to the team, you know what I'm saying. Or further,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, So when I heard the resume, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I briefly listened to a couple of people who talk

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<v Speaker 4>about him coming over here and how Detroit is going

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<v Speaker 4>to miss him, and how some of the other places

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<v Speaker 4>that he's been things that he'd done well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was geeked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like you guys both hit the nail on

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<v Speaker 1>the head there, like getting good people to fill important

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<v Speaker 1>positions in your organizations, and he's got a history of

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<v Speaker 1>success and taking on a lot of responsibility. I read

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<v Speaker 1>off like ten things he's going to be responsible for.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when you look at his resume, right

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cleveland Browns, he was a salary cap and

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<v Speaker 1>contract analysts. In twenty eighteen, he goes back to Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a alma mater. He's the chief revenue officer there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes to usc and he's the executive senior

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<v Speaker 1>Associate Athletic Director and chief of staff, so he's responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the athletic director, but he's responsible for all

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<v Speaker 1>of the athletic program. And then he goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions and is the senior contract negotiator there, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he comes here and has that same title

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to some other responsibilities. So he's a young dude.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very hungry, very experienced, very smart and he and

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I love about it is he's

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<v Speaker 1>got like a diversity of experience according to this resume,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's handled different responsibilities and seem to handle them

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<v Speaker 1>very well. And then you pair that with his experience

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit and the and the that the roster construction

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<v Speaker 1>that they went through there, because I mean, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about rosters that get you.

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<v Speaker 3>They own guy, they got their own type guys with

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<v Speaker 3>their own vigion, and let's just look through these stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and let's just fine comb these things.

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<v Speaker 2>University of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>This is when they had danz Manrita South Gardiner, Kobe Bryant,

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<v Speaker 3>Audi does. I'm talking about probably seventeen eighteen pros off

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<v Speaker 3>in his time. It would be called the Golden era

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<v Speaker 3>of Cincinnati football. They made the playoffs that year, they

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<v Speaker 3>got blew out, but they made the playoffs the year

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<v Speaker 3>hence go to the Cleveland Browns. He left the Cleveland

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<v Speaker 3>Browns in a better condition than he found the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing that with everybody that I'm straking off of.

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<v Speaker 3>He left them all in a better condition than he

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<v Speaker 3>left USC. Not only did he get them Lincoln Riley,

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<v Speaker 3>he comes back, turn around and get them put into

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<v Speaker 3>Big ten.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know how important that is.

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<v Speaker 3>With the PAC twelve signing with the c W with

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<v Speaker 3>a three dollars TV contract, they tell you what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that tells me he has future visions. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he can see, Hey, I know he can see.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got a good feel for the dollars and sons, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what his new role.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the most important all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he goes to Detroit, and Detroit one

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<v Speaker 3>of the top six teams to win the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 3>right now, left their roster in a better situation than

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<v Speaker 3>he found it.

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<v Speaker 2>So his track records tells me he blows. He glows

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<v Speaker 2>up everywhere go. You know, how to handle money, he

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<v Speaker 2>knows somehow his math is mathing. Boy, he does. He

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<v Speaker 2>does well behind those numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>So, like I said, that's the first thing I saw

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<v Speaker 4>when I when I saw the things that he's done,

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<v Speaker 4>and it all pertained to the dollar and just getting

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<v Speaker 4>things around here, you know, organizing and flowing the right

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<v Speaker 4>way we gott I go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think the other thing is like when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at like an important position, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was with the Atlanta anytime I negotiate a

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<v Speaker 1>new contract, you negotiate with the lead negotiating to the organization.

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<v Speaker 1>And having a guy in that role who understands contract value,

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<v Speaker 1>your role in the organization and what they will or

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<v Speaker 1>will not spend on you, and position a position of

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<v Speaker 1>value is extremely important because I think about, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's an overpay, that that's he overpaid. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing. That's his job. So hopefully he's shown. He

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<v Speaker 1>showed a history of the dollars and cents of the experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think it's a again. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>see him in this new role and see how it

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<v Speaker 1>works here. But in terms of on paper resumes, just

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<v Speaker 1>like Dan Quinn, just like Adam Peters, this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>the resume they make you say, man, he's the right

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<v Speaker 1>guy for the job and can handle all this responsibility. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicki Javala reported that David Blackburn will be the Director

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<v Speaker 1>of Player Personnel. That is unofficial at the moment, but

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<v Speaker 1>once that is finalized, we'll talk about that. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>you stay tuned to get our thoughts on whoever that

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<v Speaker 1>the final version of the director of Player Personnel is.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously we're very excited about Brandon and we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to see what he does here with this organization.

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<v Speaker 2>We will, we promise we will get your last name correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna give it one more time because I

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<v Speaker 1>did call it. It's not yeah, it's senate.

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<v Speaker 2>We know we didn't get that right, So I apologize him.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I wish it was not what you want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a football name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny, like this is a little bit appeal

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<v Speaker 1>behind the curtain, like you get in these like little

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<v Speaker 1>ruts mentally with names, and I'll stop saying a name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because he said enough. I didn't even think about

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<v Speaker 2>let me not.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all right, so that's out of the big news.

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<v Speaker 1>We're really excited to see how that and that's more

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<v Speaker 1>of like in terms of judging success, that seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it will be a long term thing, but we're can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to see what that looks like. Also, in other news,

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<v Speaker 1>we have not talked about the schedule release because before

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<v Speaker 1>on our last show we kind of said, oh, these

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<v Speaker 1>are some games we have highlighted circle we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the final schedule release. So let's just talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>super high level as a player, do we care? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you did on the show, so like I

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<v Speaker 1>do at bit because circling game.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about it, all right, you're gonna always circle the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say at Santana playing the Dolphins. That's a home

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<v Speaker 3>game for him. Now I know it feels like away

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<v Speaker 3>game for him, but his family gonna be there ramping,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So you circled that game.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's just say I got a beef with

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<v Speaker 2>a certain.

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<v Speaker 3>Football player, I like Steve Smith. I'm circlingly the Panthers game.

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<v Speaker 3>If I got the rivalry of the Cowboys. Of course

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<v Speaker 3>that games are automatically circle, so I think in particular situations,

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<v Speaker 3>one on one, it's some intimate was inside of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just say I get to play against the Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>that I just left, I'm circling that game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do that now? Are you to do that

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<v Speaker 1>the week before the game? No? I would do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but before the season started with I would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you got it on your wall and see circle

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<v Speaker 1>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm circling that game. Because they didn't believe in me. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's something like like some channel playing the Jets. He like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just y'all ain't do no, y'all drafted me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all good, but they go with the butt comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm finna show y'all two hundred yard. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give it to you. Did you feel what I tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>I did everything opposite?

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<v Speaker 4>Then you know you got like you take a special

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<v Speaker 4>person to be wired that way like and I and

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<v Speaker 4>you can't knock them for being so a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys like this, especially playing this sport, A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys take things person very. But I don't take stuff

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<v Speaker 4>personal because it interferes with my game.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. But if I'm a guy that plays with

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of that that fees my game, then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>want to be personal. I don't feed off of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I feed off of just being clear minded going out

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<v Speaker 4>there handling it as another game. So I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 4>none of that stuff that Fred just said. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I would not even look at me like I told

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<v Speaker 4>you we was to get schedules. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>see him. I'm that superstitious.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't somebody start talking about all in week five,

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<v Speaker 2>I go walk.

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<v Speaker 1>The other way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to focus.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to know when you say, when we

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<v Speaker 4>go to training camp, we got so and so on

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<v Speaker 4>September first, so September eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm worried about that first game because I want to

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<v Speaker 4>be zoned and worried about them.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once things get flown.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, you see it because you see the

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<v Speaker 4>board everywhere. I don't want to get too far ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Of myself, because we all.

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<v Speaker 2>Are wired like that.

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<v Speaker 4>We have beefs in our own little mind, or have

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<v Speaker 4>things we want to do against teams that may felt,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a certain way about us, or we you know,

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<v Speaker 4>have someone finished business with them. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to put that into my way of getting ready for

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<v Speaker 4>my season.

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<v Speaker 2>But it when I always just beefs. I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>my rookie year and we were going to play the forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine ers, like the third game, and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 3>finally get to check Jerry right, I've been dreaming about

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<v Speaker 3>this my O.

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<v Speaker 2>It was' you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what, I feel so bad that I feel so

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<v Speaker 3>bad that I did the old man like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he was actually playing. Actually we played the forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine and Stokes he was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>He was right, he was at the Oakland.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got to play him and Tim Brown, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean Tim and Tim Brown, which I like, we beating

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<v Speaker 3>up on the old folks home. So I played against

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<v Speaker 3>older right, I played against dirty Rice. I didn't play

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<v Speaker 3>against you know, fresh out Lone Grain. I ain't playing

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<v Speaker 3>against Loan against San Francisco, Yeah, long Grain, right, But

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<v Speaker 3>it was a dream, And then I also think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A dude coming in and lead young.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we got the vicers this year. Randy Mouse is

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing coming to your mind. I got Randy,

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<v Speaker 3>I got Chris Carter. So yeah, I think you open

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<v Speaker 3>for the challenges, but now you get to see, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the day these challenges gonna be on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>See, I knew I was one of those guys that

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<v Speaker 4>if I allowed whatever beef I got with you, it'll

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<v Speaker 4>overtake me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, It would like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take you out your game, bingo.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a guy like I allowed whatever it goes

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<v Speaker 4>on in the game to affect me as that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So I say, Fanswains, I'm in the game and you yapping,

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't gonna yap back. I'm gonna let you yap

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<v Speaker 4>because I know all I gotta do is perform. You

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<v Speaker 4>see what I'm saying, And when I perform that that

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<v Speaker 4>speaks louder.

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<v Speaker 2>Than me yapping.

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<v Speaker 4>Now if I yap, if I get into a yapping

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<v Speaker 4>contest with you, you're gonna win because that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to do that and make sure I get

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<v Speaker 4>off my game. So I used to laugh at guys.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember it gets to like my fourth or

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<v Speaker 4>fifth year, I see a guy in the off season.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude came to me and saying, I can't even be

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<v Speaker 4>mad at you, Bro, you grinned at me, and then

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<v Speaker 4>with for one hundred he said, you're the same way

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<v Speaker 4>I was all built to say, grant at me, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, what I'm grinding at me for?

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<v Speaker 2>And I say, bro, because I know when I the

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<v Speaker 2>way I get back at you. You see in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my damn jersey. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm not gonna get into that match.

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<v Speaker 4>So but I also know me too that if I

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<v Speaker 4>do start looking, I'm gonna just go to think about

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying me, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And now I'm out my game already because I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really you emotionally spent. Well, I'm thinking about what.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember this moment, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I try to make sure I just stay

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<v Speaker 4>away from all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like smooth. I laughed nice of him and see him

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve Smith go at it with words.

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<v Speaker 4>Across the I said, boy, them boys built different, especially Chad, Chad,

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<v Speaker 4>you since since stuff to start his list, man, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about schedule watching, Chad had a list

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<v Speaker 4>of all seventeen dB He went on to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the top.

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<v Speaker 3>DB's on his team, and he's just trying to cross

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<v Speaker 3>us out. And he was like, you know, I got

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<v Speaker 3>you this week, called me the week before the game,

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<v Speaker 3>I got you this. We gotta say, no, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I got you this week. So at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, I see you on Sunday and we had

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<v Speaker 3>that battle. Now, like you can't scratch me out because

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<v Speaker 3>you had as many of us against me as a

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<v Speaker 3>dead man.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a question. This is just came to

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<v Speaker 1>me right now. Why is it that receiversvs. Receivers and

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<v Speaker 1>corners are such devus. It's like, get away from the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The more it becomes about me, me, me, even like

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<v Speaker 1>tight End starts staying up, it's like, oh no, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with that? Like do you know? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they get the ball lot, But it's like, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta have it in somewhat insane personality to be out

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<v Speaker 3>there on their freeway constantly baling these dudes, and we

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<v Speaker 3>gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>If I coad you out and say this is a

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<v Speaker 3>position you play. You got to go backwards with the

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<v Speaker 3>fastest at least in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Do forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta be a little insane to be really

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<v Speaker 3>at you and the talking it's a way to psyche

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<v Speaker 3>yourself out almost because you got to think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cornerback is a position of imperfection. We're going to get beat.

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 3>It ain't no if it ain't no win, it's you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get beat. Now, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>But offensive lineman, man, they have a very similar situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't talk right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also don't get singled out like to get beat.

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<v Speaker 4>See you understand some defensive backs and I can't speak

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 4>for safeties, but they're in that same I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>can say ballpark when it comes to the corners and

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<v Speaker 4>the receiver there are they like basketball players when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to our sport, meaning meaning when it looks they're

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<v Speaker 4>individually battling all day, one on one.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying, Like, regardless of what the

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<v Speaker 2>coverage is, I see you, you see me? Yeah, Rather I.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the ball now if I beat you, we counted

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 4>against what I'm saying, it's a it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A check, it's got you got it. I got so.

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<v Speaker 2>I could look at him all day while I was

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<v Speaker 2>tean thread up. If I ain't had.

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<v Speaker 4>I he was open most so at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, we play individual sport amongst a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>guys on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>So me personally, I couldn't answer the question more than

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<v Speaker 4>what I just answered because I never saw myself in

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<v Speaker 4>that light.

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<v Speaker 2>But I never tried to put myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside you, never like talked you always a dude. You

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<v Speaker 1>had your little celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it wrong, That's what I say. That's after the

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<v Speaker 2>that's after I don'neal what I had to do when

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<v Speaker 2>I do my job. Can't tell me how to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying. I have a different one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to spend the You know, I told you ill.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching film coming up the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm having a hard time with this. Listen, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Genuinely listened to it. Right, I'm watching Santanna. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how I got to Santawn and I started noticing

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<v Speaker 3>so every time he scored in college, especially when he

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<v Speaker 3>first got in the league, when he crossed the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>He was gonna unbutton his up. He's gonna unbutton that.

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<v Speaker 2>He had got to a point where he he had

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<v Speaker 2>to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody was tackling him going across the line.

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 2>He noticed that. I was like, what that was?

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<v Speaker 4>That was part of my celebration that it was hit.

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<v Speaker 4>Like people will get enamored with the bass bend. I

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<v Speaker 4>laughed about that because I spent. I was spending the

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<v Speaker 4>ball since I was Jay high. I remember I got

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<v Speaker 4>a penalty in college. You know they come out, you

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<v Speaker 4>know how they doing the league, how the refs come

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<v Speaker 4>out and stuff. So in college, my first game back

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<v Speaker 4>after my broke jaw, we're playing Cincinnati Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 2>I spend the ball and they went to.

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<v Speaker 4>Time We went to UH to a time out, you

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<v Speaker 4>know how you get a break and when it coming

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:04.719
<v Speaker 4>things came back and say the ball still spinding from

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<v Speaker 4>sixty and like it's crazy. The first meeting me had

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.520
<v Speaker 4>going into the next season, the officials told me, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't do this no more, really, And I'm like what,

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 4>I grew up watching this guy spend the ball, that

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 4>guy spinning ball, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you you point me out for spending the football.

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>So my coach told me tenam spent for every catch

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<v Speaker 2>until you score, spend the ball. So you know, I

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 2>would have to wait to score. But that was a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>They told me I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>But besides the spending the ball thing, I was always

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 4>that was like something that was like a swag thing.

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 4>It's not that that button off because that's a Miami thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A job done. Yeah, kind of sick. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that you would notice that. I no, I just

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 2>like it never failed, Like I like, let me look,

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna check. I checked out.

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, you were watching, now you're talking.

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I would like, let me check.

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 3>So I went back the team every touchdown from CODs

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<v Speaker 3>and he did it every time.

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<v Speaker 2>Same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I always thought it was because the receivers and

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 1>corners run camera a lot, so they had to do something,

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying now.

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<v Speaker 2>We also we almost independent contractors.

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 3>We had the same battery as y'all, but we got

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 3>internal wars going on outside.

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>In our wars, I magnified, you know, like you can.

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 3>You can have a good battery in the trenches and

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<v Speaker 3>they won't talk about it till two weeks later, I'm

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna get dogged that day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I used to always do and now

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I know we want to we're gonna move on. But

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<v Speaker 4>my other thing I used to do is just tapping,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I feel like that was

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<v Speaker 4>just I feel like so many people was doing that

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 4>haigh to change. I'm like, damn everybody doing the tap

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<v Speaker 4>to the chest and yet better guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I was thinking about the Thanksgiving game in

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve and I remember you getting getting into it

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>with a dB after you score a touchdown. I no

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>remember how to grab you.

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It was like you grabbed me.

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<v Speaker 4>That was that was That was Pierre's touchdown and you

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 4>were talking and that was a guy. Him and Pierre

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 4>was going at it, but he pushed Pierre hard to

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 4>the ground. So I was just defending my guy. You know,

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm not I'm not one of those guys that

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 4>liked to get into those you know. I guess you

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 4>say contests, but when you and the heat of battle,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 4>man so much goes on. Man, you just react.

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You're a pure man, not dudee.

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I played Er when he was in the Bull Listen.

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Is he like that even when he was young.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, some somewhere receivers don't take pride in.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching film on Pierre. I said, he actually

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 3>blocking people to hurt them against He's trying to tire

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>you out like so, because you know he could easily

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 3>just get in front of you, shield you block. You know,

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 3>he is literally he's trying to bury you and he's

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>trying to hurt something on you.

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>So when you have to check him.

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<v Speaker 3>He was already hard to tackle with me, honest like,

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>he one of the few big guys to just give

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 3>me the ball quick.

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I keep running him and kwombole anybody built like.

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<v Speaker 4>That took that, took it out of mind. I was

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.959
<v Speaker 4>going to say he had that and kwam bolting effect

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 4>to me faster than an kwan. But they're so big,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, they can bully guys outside and then they're

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 4>gonna beat you.

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and beat you de boy just out you know,

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>out route, you know, rout you up or whatever. But

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 2>not hands. That was a good guy.

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the face.

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 4>I got a chance to play with him because I

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 4>watched him play with Reggie and I remember he came

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 4>over here. I remember he said something to me. It

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.479
<v Speaker 4>was funny He was like, yeah, boy, you're different from Reggie.

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>That's why I laughed.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I say, we know everybody else he said, boy it

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 4>was boy was like you want Reggie, want that ball?

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean at that time because Marvin's gone,

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>yeahge like this, this gotta be all me.

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 4>But but Pierre had his last thing the year that

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 4>he came here. The year before he came here, that

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 4>was his best season over there in Indie. And I

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 4>think he he out. I don't know if he had

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 4>more I don't know if he caught Reggie or had

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 4>more y. He had a great season.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>That's something that I think people need to do more

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>now on today's game. It's like, sure, just try to

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>wear that dude out. I used to do like blocking

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 1>like people was like, why did you finish so much?

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Because I know I'm in a little bit better shape.

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And like this guy who's really talented, if I can

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.479
<v Speaker 1>get him on the ground a couple of times, get

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that jersey dirty, he gets a little I heard it does.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And now I guess what, you catch that slint and

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to tack you and I slide down your bio.

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I hate it?

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<v Speaker 4>And this for them dbs that did it to me,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 4>so they do just so happened to listen to our part.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 4>I remember having a guy that talked messed about me.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 4>He wouldn't said to.

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Me personally, said it to somebody else. And I get

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>in the game with him. You know how you say

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 2>you have people circle. Yeah, he was boy. I knew

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>he was playing that team. I didn't really care about it.

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I say, if he on that team at the time

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<v Speaker 2>we get there, I'm gonna get it. I won't. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna block him. I'm gonna out round him.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna show him every play while you don't speak

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 4>my name up like that in bank and Bro.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>When I say I got there, we was in.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 4>It was I was backside like I was going to

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<v Speaker 4>get a stay your turnaround smart, I'm.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Talking, what's up?

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Bro?

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>You're good? Want to give me?

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 4>You know the patter in the back all right? Not

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 4>a family boy, Ain't no family boy. It's just every

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.479
<v Speaker 4>play I was doing something at him. So now I'm

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 4>front side. I'm blocking good now man, he goneat he down,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 4>bir stopped telling me, I'm good. This is an all

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 4>day thing. This is no negotiat, but they got to

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 4>the point to where I saw I said, now I

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 4>got him. He now I knew it was just talk,

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 4>So now I got you want me my friend. So

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 4>by the time I've had six and seven catches on him,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 4>he's so funny helping me about the ground. I said,

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 4>you took his soul out because at that point you

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 4>said something that he didn't even know. He cut me,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I want to tried me. So

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.239
<v Speaker 4>I was waiting for him. I didn't say nothing back.

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to send no messages bas So I'm

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 4>gona see him when I see him.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>That you you remember David Boston, right, yea, the evil man,

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>David Boss.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>If y'all know, he was six three, like two hundred

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and fifty pounds.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Social you have to say then, when I told him

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 3>before the game, I was like, humans don't grow this

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>beg and he he looked at me.

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 2>He had these red contexts context I like, is you

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the damn Are you trying to pretend to be the devil.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>He's like, no, I'm one the damn devil, and I

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 3>get They tossed the sweep the first play. He cut me,

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>like they play ain't even on the outside. I'm trying to,

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, take my break it. He cut me from

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>the back. Oh my god, I said, dude, don't nobody

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 3>to do that.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>He said, I do it. I'm gonna do it for foe. Man,

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I got some blocking battle.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>What didn't do?

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I like, you wasn't winning that back with him? Too

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>strong body building man.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was sick, dude, He's he's a six dude. Anyway,

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I should have said we should get back to the schedule.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I had a fan.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 5>As a fan, I gotta jump and ask a question.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 5>Have you ever Fred? I know you've probably been on

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 5>the opposite side of this batanna. Have you ever had

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>somebody trash talking you during the game and then they

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 5>just say something that's like funny and you're like, I

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 5>should be mad at you.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>But that was pretty good.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's so crazy appropriate before you said no,

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 4>But so I'm gonna ask you the question first. No,

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 4>I never had anybody, but I got a little I

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.479
<v Speaker 4>guess you said. I got to say a little nugget

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 4>from a from a teammate that told me, Hey, man,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you do this, but you know

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 4>what I do is going to media Guide and I

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>read what they're who their family members are, and I

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 4>get the girlfriend name and I say the girlfriend name, and.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Bro, I swear to god, I never used it.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 4>But there was a guy that got on my nerves

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 4>in college and he went to saying something before the game,

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 4>like he talked.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get up my nerve when it came to

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>us playing. It's just he talks.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, man, hey, how Felicia, if you're

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 4>talking about seeing somebody just like hard almost leave their chesty.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Me, how you know, Felicia, Hey, hey check this out. No, bro,

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk later, we'll talk.

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about and it's a rap that's talking about

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 4>like and I didn't know who the girl was. I

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 4>didn't know who how much, But sixty minutes this man

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>asked me about that.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Girl out his game.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey live.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>That's what I did in college with this dot com.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what I told you.

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I supposed to be on a Twitter not even months

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 3>swoopsm dot com. I gained information from the student body

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 3>and I found out girlfriends sisters, and I weaponized it.

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about to the team. I'm glad no one

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>ever used that to you.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Know, use that me because I could just imagine like

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 4>I felt bad after I said it.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>But that was the other guy too. He was like, man,

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 2>this guy always talking.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say somebody's mama, or I'm gonna say somebody's check.

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw I saw a Naws do that once, and uh,

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it was just the guy's face was just like he

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of all up in his face. And

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I said something about his old lady and then it

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was just like it was over.

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And I just was like, they go, they go, Dorman

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>on you. I've done it minute time.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>That's tough.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like whatever I can do to rattle you.

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Apparently that works pretty well. It does, all right. So

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.479
<v Speaker 1>the other thing, back to schedule. I know we took

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>a little digression there, but that's always fun.

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>We didn't really care about the schedule.

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, late by again this time? Do we care?

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Is that a big deal.

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just tired of it.

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm just tired of because it seemed like this, let's

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 3>sit there to watch the team up for Fie. Let's

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 3>get him a buy in week seventeen, Like no, man,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 3>I wish that the bye was week seven, eight, nine, ten,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 3>something that can get these guys.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>I need it.

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 4>I need a break, Let me get away. I think

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't really get too caught up into it. I

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 4>feel like now that we cover the team, it's more

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 4>to talk about. As a player, you kind of you

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 4>notice it and you be like, damn what you look

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 4>at and and say, hey, bright side is if I

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 4>can make it to this, you know what I mean?

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I got, But you don't want to be on the road,

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. That's the only thing about it, Like,

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 4>if you make it to that point, you're not hoping

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 4>that you're doing bad, but you're hoping I.

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Need a break. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 4>But I don't want to see the team flourishing at

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 4>the top of that, you know, at the peak of

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 4>their game, everything is clicking, and then they say here's

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 4>the bye week, because that could be detrimentaly, you know

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. So hopefully it works out well.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So the question is, also I think that by comes

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 3>after a Thursday night game, two days, two.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Weeks after two weeks afterwards game is I think we

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>could eleven And.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>So they're trying to say that that Thursday night, so

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>they extended.

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But last year ear Last year, the Commanders had a

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Thursday night game, week eight,

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>which makes more sense because it's kind of right smack

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>dab in the middle. You get that little bye week there,

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's a little bit different schedule. All their breaks

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of come later in the season.

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 4>I think it'd be interesting also just how the coaches,

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, notice what's going on with that, and just

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 4>say how they kind of conduct things throughout the week,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 4>you know, each and every week.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Said, but I'm really glad you about that point about

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>the late bye, because I remember being like we had

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a late bye. I forget we had this conversation was

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and third, whatever, thousand and two whatever.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I was playing pretty good and I didn't want to leave.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like I was in like I was in

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like a groove, yeah, saying I understood my week was set,

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let's just play the rest of

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>the season.

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 4>Speaking of that, before we move on, what you can

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 4>do as a player. I did this before, especially with

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 4>the Jets. I was a young pup. We had a

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 4>late by, and I'm just starting to feel like I'm

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 4>a part of the team now, Like I it took

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 4>me a while, I got hurried out the gate. So

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm starting to feel myself. When everybody left, I stay

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 4>right there. I came back to Price, I came to

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 4>the facility every day. I caught passes from Chad Pennington

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 4>and like we did things individually that when we went

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 4>the next week, I scored my first touchdown. So I'm like, look,

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 4>that's by I took advantage of it by staying in

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 4>town and just putting the work in.

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 2>And I want I like the fact that.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I ever in my whole career took

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 3>a vacation on the bath. I don't think I ever

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 3>left out doing it. I started doing it, I just

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 3>never did it.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I just I feel like I know me.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And if I get in a certain mode, it's over.

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 3>When I showed back up, I got a Sam brenro

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>on it like, smook, we got weeks.

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>No, No, you might not show back up.

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>That's what's gonna happen. They might be looking for you.

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, no, don't you do that to yourself. So

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:44.760
<v Speaker 3>I would just shield smart.

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I get a lot when we're talking

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>schedule released is predicting games. Yeah, and I think that

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>is maybe, Like it's what I'm saying. It's a fun

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>thing to do with sockymore run, but you can't do it.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>It's so early in the offseason to predict these games,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's like, who's gonna win Week six against.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>We don't know who's even played. Like, you know, I

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was so disgusted with us saying we was gonna be

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>ten and seven last week.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't be discussed Like no, I was discussed.

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 4>Because that was all of us together and it was

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 4>about seven mold losses. I wanted to give us, you

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, Like I'm just being real, like

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 4>because you really.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, so I won't them top prove me wrong,

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I'm just talking. But we

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know. We don't know.

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>We might have played the game, but every season is different,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 3>every game is different, and do teams change and.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Fluctuate by quarters? That's what I say, because you gotta.

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Go every four games it's a new team.

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it just it's just one of those things where

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 3>it don't matter to us when game at a time.

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Producergation did a great job, Like think about this last

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>week Week one we played there as on our Cardinals yeah.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Last year Josha Yeah, Josh Jobs was starting. Yeah, he

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was even on the team later in the year, right,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the Giants past or not? Yeah, Giants week seven, Tyrod

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Taylor a little surprised there, and then the Giants week eleven.

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Who else, Tommy DeVito that was not on my big

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>go card. So when people say people like tell you,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me to be those late games in the year,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I don't even know who's gonna be playing.

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Spencer Rattler might be quarterbacking for the Cowboys week seventeen.

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of these teams have a they've got

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>new peak players, yeah, but being probably more importantly and

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>probably should be A they have new coordinators. Yes, offensive

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and defensive coordinators. And as we've seen over the last

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>probably five or six years in the NFL, those coordinators

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>drastically impact the effectiveness. Hey do they do?

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's always good for the sake of conversation.

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, Bob Shop, He's great, good Biba Shop.

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Because if because I get caught up in the whole,

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 4>like I got friends that would call me ready to debate,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 4>and they know I'm not a debater, I'm like, Bro,

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 4>I don' want it.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Bro, And they be like thinking that.

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a guy that thought too, because Tanny, you

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 2>played in the league, you know this. I still don't know.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about this? I don't know what

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>do you mean? What I think about it? And it's

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>just funny, so I think now.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 4>So just having this platform and us having this opportunities

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 4>to kind of chime in on some of this stuff,

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 4>it's interesting just to see our take or here our take.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 4>But Bro, as a player, if someone would have said

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 4>that and I'm watching that show, I'm like, they get.

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Off the damn screen. You don't know the hell you're

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>talking about because you really don't know. But one is

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>full of optimism and one is full of because a

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Times we bury it in the ground again. So that's

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 3>why when we get these predictions, everybody wants to look

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 3>on the bright side, like a cup half full, not

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>cup half.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 4>I always got to kick out of the person that

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 4>told us or said that I wasn't gonna do something.

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying?

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>That was what you like that?

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 4>When I heard that, I'm like, okay, bingo, Yeah, I

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 4>can turn the TV off now, I don't want to.

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to, I don't go to I don't

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>gotta be told anything else.

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>And then imagine this world podcasters. Imagine people getting on

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 3>TV and talking about you at your job and say,

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 3>you know what, Cindy, Oh my gosh, I think we're

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna trade her to IBM. We'll trade her to IBM next.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 3>As matter of fact, her skills are starting to deplete.

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>My dad. I used to tell my dad this, like,

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine you come in, you had a bad game, not game,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>tough game on Sunday Monday. You come in, they got

0:38:59.920 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of tight ends working out. Imagine you've got

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people like that in your job, you know.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not come in and all of a sudden, take

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Cody is sitting in the lobby.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Like, okay, so that's how But see, that's the thing

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 2>about it. Folks fail to realize.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the things about our life, you know,

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 4>and especially just me my position. I go, I get drafted,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean I get traded here in two thousand and five,

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 4>have the season of all seasons, one of my best seasons,

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 4>and then the next next year they bring in two

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 4>other guys that I know, Rendu l and Brandan Lloyd,

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 4>and paying the same.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Money in there, like we are not the same.

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>What the hell? I didn't know what I mean.

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>So if you're if you're wired to worry about that,

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not fit for this. I literally had to be like,

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 2>all right, come on, bring it. You know what I'm saying.

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 2>So that's every year.

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 4>That's why I never looked at the you know, our

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 4>draft stuff when I was playing this game.

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know who we drafted and what you thinking

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>about this guy? Who is that y'all just drafted the

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 2>first round? I see him in practice? I don't know,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, this is me. I'm a draft guy, so

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I pretty much knew everybody day we drafted.

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the schedule. If you want to see our

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of full thoughts, our predictions, all that kind of stuff,

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>make sure you check out the schedule Elease special on

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.439
<v Speaker 1>the Commander's YouTube page. And now let's talk about something

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that I'm excited to talk about because I think it's

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>important is OTAs. Let's talk about OTAs. So let's just

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>talk about the off season schedule. So after two thousand

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and eleven, with the new CBA. They basically changed the

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>off season structure. So there's Phase one, which is just

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>like lifting weights. You can meet with your coaches, install

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's no field time. That's what the meetings are, right.

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of laying the foundation for the end of

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Phase two, which is you can lift and run, but

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>now there's meeting time with the coaches and you have

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>an hour limit in the building. Now. Phase three is OTAs,

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>which is actual practice, own field practice, right, and practice

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.800
<v Speaker 1>from when we did OTAs has changed pretty dramatically. It

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>basically used to be like a full speed practice, but

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>you just had helmets on, and when I first got

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>in the league, we wore past Yeah, so obviously that's

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>changed completely now because now they're out there for an

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>hour and fifteen minutes and they're getting good work done.

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not smirching that anyway, but it just the structure

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit different. However, the thing I wanted

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to talk about is that's all football time. They're installing

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the offense. So do you guys remember that from your

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>time here and kind of what is an install and

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>how does that go?

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, And just to chime in a little bit, yeah,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I was throwed off when I saw that practice, how

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 4>different it was from practice the other day I was watching.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we ain't gonna break up individually and do

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>some of you And then it was over. I'm like, oh,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 2>something going on. Yeah, it's different.

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 4>But just to get back to what you asked, I

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 4>had to deal with a lot of different offenses. So

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 4>this time of the year was always It played an

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 4>integral part of my preparation for the season. Like I

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 4>really had to dive in and say, okay, new offense,

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 4>how are you going to take on this?

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 4>So I was, man, this is what I used to

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 4>enjoy coming here, to put my time in and get

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 4>home and get to my couch to watch TV. Because

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 4>I know when I get here it's all work. It's

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 4>all getting used to something new. And even if I

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 4>didn't know it, even if it was us, it wasn't new.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to learn something else about the offense, you

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Like I told you, I always

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 4>share with you guys that I was more worried about

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 4>myself than anybody else. But once I had me down,

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 4>now I'm gonna dive in to see what Logan got

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 4>to do. Now I'm a dive in and see what

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 4>CP do in the backfield or whoever it may be.

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 4>So I pay you close attention to these times this

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 4>time of year because I feel like you can get

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 4>ahead of the curve by getting all that information.

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 2>In right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I played for so many different coordinators and head

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 3>coaches that I had to be here for OTA because

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 3>I had to learn the whole new defense year in

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 3>and year out. And the scary thing about new coaches

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 3>is do I fit they scheme?

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>That's always your thing.

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>So once I found out who my coordinators is, I

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 3>remember marvel Lewis, we hired him, I went write, start watching.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to see what was they doing in Baltimore?

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 2>What were they doing here? What were they doing to see?

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Do I fit they scheme? Hell.

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 3>The only time that I almost felt like I didn't

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 3>is when we signed Mike Tomlin when I was in Minnesota.

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Him is our defensive coordinator, and I knew I feel

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 3>to play a majority of Cover two, which I could

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 3>play Cover two, but hey, I like to play man

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 3>and man.

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I like responsibility.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 3>So all that off season I tried to pack on

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 3>a couple of pounds because I know I'm now part

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 3>of the run front. But I also said, you know what,

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 3>let me get used to like literally get my jam

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 3>down pack.

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 4>Like you know what my goal was too, And I'm

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 4>glad you brought that up. Talking about fitting a scheme

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 4>like I had a thing. And it's crazy as I

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 4>think about announcer more so than I did back then

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 4>when I was younger or when I was playing, I

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 4>wanted to say I had a successful season with every

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 4>coach and like you know, you want to put them

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.359
<v Speaker 4>all together every year you want to have a successful season.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 4>But I looked at success in my position was don't

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 4>get me wrong, if you had a great If you

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.919
<v Speaker 4>had a good year by just being productive leading your team,

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 4>that's good. Successful me was like man thousand yards Pro Bowl,

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, being a being a contender,

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, being a guy that could have you know

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 4>been in there, you know, got to the Pro Bowl

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 4>or you know, got into the playoffs. And I look

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 4>at it, so the jests I had herm that was

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.879
<v Speaker 4>that was one head coach here. I had Gibbs, first

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 4>had Zor, then I ended up having Mic and I

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 4>had Jay to leave out the door. Jay was the

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 4>only guy I really didn't play for that was my

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 4>last year he I was J came and and I

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 4>left the next year. But all those other four coaches,

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 4>I was putting up numbers in every different office, and

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, you just brought something back to mine. I

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 4>never looked at the offenses as I couldn't be successful

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 4>in them. I just wanted to get into it and

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 4>fire your and find my niche like, what is it

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 4>going that I'm going.

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 2>To be able to do well here?

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 4>And it's crazy because the I guess I could say

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 4>the later in my years, which I learned this in college.

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 4>Me and Reggie used to switch positions all the time

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 4>just to trick guys who who you know, who's going

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 4>to be basically diving in Santana's going to be Z

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 4>or he's going to be in the slot. I can

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 4>play every position if they allowed me to, you know

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, certain offensive schemes you here. But Mike

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 4>started letting me play every position, and you know, Coach

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Gibbs had me everywhere.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>He didn't care. Yeah, New York had me just at Z,

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 4>So you know that's what I always found a success

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 4>in and like just making sure that no matter who

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 4>offense it is, coming in here, no matter what coach,

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 4>I want to have a great year.

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, just to kind of give some

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.759
<v Speaker 1>more like those are great stories, but you give some

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>more like kind of specific context. So like in phase one,

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you're probably talking about huddle, you're talking about cadence, you're

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about kind of offensive, high level philosophy. Phase two

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you might actually start putting in some places because you're

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>on the field. You're gonna do routes on there, You're

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna do kind of situational football. Probably installed two minutes,

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and then phase three you're probably on like your fourth

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 1>and fifth install by then, right, Which makes it tough

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>for the rookies to come in because they got to

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>catch up with everything.

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it's gonna make it tough for

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 3>them because of them divided sal I'm on sale. I'm

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 3>like we talked about it. He's not doing one on

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 3>ones like I used to love one on ones.

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>We received those are that minichemra.

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but but I also understand that they ain't real,

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.919
<v Speaker 3>Like it's so not real, Like it ain't no feel

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 3>that me and town are gonna get on and it's

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 3>just meet him in the quarterback.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>He got a hundred yards the work. It's almost impossible

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 2>to get a lot from that.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, the more team

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 3>stuff they do, I think, the more mental reps did

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 3>these younger guys get. And I think then what they did,

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I think they took some of the physicality out and say,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 3>let's go more mental so to make sure these guys

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 3>got a mental chance when in my day they weren't

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 3>caring about your mental chance.

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Your mental chance was your responsibility.

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>It was yeah, like and then it was way more

0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>physical too.

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think.

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's been fun to go watch the dueling seven

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>on seven practices. That's been a lot of fun and

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just cool to see how they've progressed with all

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. The other thing I just wanted to talk

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>about real quick is young guys, young guys with veterans.

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>So the first day we were out there or not,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.040
<v Speaker 1>rookiemitted camp, but the first ot A day, you know,

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.799
<v Speaker 1>we saw Luke and Luke McCaffrey and Terry mclaurran talk

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to each other. They're kind of in the same line, right.

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Newton has talked about how excited is to work

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 1>with Alan and Payne. You know, you see the impact

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of Bobby Wagner, like how important is it having those

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>older guys kind of mentoring some of these younger you know,

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Jordan McGee. Bobby Wagner talked about that out of time,

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like these younger guys and kind of saying, this is

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>how we do things, what it means to be.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's great. I think you know it all.

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 4>It's I guess you can say to each his own too,

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 4>because if you if you were a guy that's really

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>about ball, you might not even need that conversation, just

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 4>the way you watch the game. Like I was a

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 4>guy that I took every and from every every piece

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 4>of information you got for me.

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I took it. I took it, I took it in,

0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I absorbed it. But I was watching you regardless.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna know what I had to do by

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 4>the guy in front of me, or even even if

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 4>even if I wasn't a guy behind anybody.

0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>If I did something, I was gonna make sure that

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I was studied up. I was, I was all.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I was prepared enough to go out there and make

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 4>sure I did it right. But when I was sitting

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.760
<v Speaker 4>on my knee watching the other groups go, I'm watching

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 4>that guy who's been here longer or who's been the

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 4>lead longer. So when I was in New York, I had,

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, Lavernie is he had just been there pre

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 4>he just got there the year before.

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But he was, he was.

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 4>He was to the point to where it's crazy. I

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 4>want to shut this real quick. I remember going home

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 4>after mini camp, my first mini camp. So he'll be

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 4>around this time of the time of the year. And

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 4>my receiver coach like, so, who looks good out of

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 4>their receiver. Who's gonna be the best received on the team.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 4>I said, Remind you know, I'm the first round pick.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 4>I said, Man, Lavernia is cold, not even in the

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 4>rotation like he's fourth or fifth. He's the best received

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 4>on the team. And you know, my wide receiver coach,

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 4>he's like what I said, Man, l C got it, Coach,

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 4>I get hurt.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 2>That year, they wanted they wanted Matthew Hatchett to be

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the start and Z. They wanted Hatchet to be disease.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 4>They wanted you know, Wayne comes back to stay, to

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 4>stay his position or vice versus. They want to have

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 4>you to be the X and Wayne bet to be

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.239
<v Speaker 4>the Z and Coles kind of went in there and

0:48:53.280 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 4>spoke up like, man, I need to get a chance

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 4>to play. If you ain't gonna let me play, then

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 4>then then trade me and they game opportunity. They ain't

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 4>never looked back. And my receiver coach told me, say,

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 4>you knew what you was talking about, so get back

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 4>to the story. And I had to say that because

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:07.919
<v Speaker 4>Cole showed me a lot of stuff watching him LC.

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 4>I took something from every guy who was already there.

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, I got here. I had David Patton, I

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 4>had Thrash, you know what I mean, those guys with

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 4>integral parts and me just watching them as veterans. You know,

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 4>even though I was the guy, I remember trying to

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 4>push everything to them, and David pat was like ten

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 4>or no, you the guy that paid you to be

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 4>the guy, so speak up.

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, no, I ain't evenna do that. So

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:30.560
<v Speaker 2>this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 2>here and do what I do in the field and

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 2>watch me.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.359
<v Speaker 4>I always watched those guys who was basically who had

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I guess you can say more of a tender than me,

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It's it's good to have any brain trust.

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Like they say, if you can, if you can have

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 3>an old person's mind in a young person's body, that's

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 3>the perfect human being. So the one thing I had,

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I had a luxury nobody else in the NFL probably

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 3>ever had.

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I made it to a dB room with three yellow

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 2>jackets in.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It, all playing my position them before I and I

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and we talking about Op five six rushmore guy. We're

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 3>talking about Darryl Green, the US sada's Chump Bailey. But

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I do remember, because I do. I'm a sponge. I

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 3>watch everything, and I'm sitting there watching Darryl. One day

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 3>he just backpaling it this lift chopping.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:19.399
<v Speaker 1>There's a clip around here, and that's how you when

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we black couldn't believe it's just these these steps. And

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>he was like super high hip, like standing straight up

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's not that talk.

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 3>We did one on one and Prime not practicing. He's

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 3>told her and he's seen me do it was chop.

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>He said, come in, don't you ever ever try to

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 3>mimic that again? I like why he's like only Daryl Green,

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:47.279
<v Speaker 3>Darren Green. Everything about what he doing is incorrect, Like,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 3>why what you mean he like, look at how he is.

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Look at him chopping steps. You don't want do that.

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Your legs too long, No, you got to mimic people.

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 3>That's more like your body tight. Indeed, you gotta realize

0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 3>what make this guy special won't make you special.

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Learning that leadership that's great, man, that's that was great

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>insight too. I mean, just think about it. How I

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>can't say we immature, but we oblivious to We don't know.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 2>We don't know nothing but the world.

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 4>You're trying to just say, man, okay, that's that's how

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 4>you do it. But then you find out, like it's

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:22.319
<v Speaker 4>almost like when we were talking the other day. I'm

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 4>not sure if we had this conversation together or with

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 4>someone else I was talking to. When you're in college

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 4>and you know they giving you all this food training table,

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 4>you got this food. And I remember being around Andre Johnson.

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 4>You know he's young, he two years younger than me,

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 4>but we both receiver us. And I remember I had

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 4>a strict die after I broke my jaw. Came to

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:40.880
<v Speaker 4>the point that I wasn't eating no no kind of

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 4>red meant. I was trying to eat light as possible

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 4>because I found out the weight I was at when

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 4>I came off, the broken jaw was me, this is

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 4>where I want to stay at. And I saw Drake

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.480
<v Speaker 4>throw down this damn two whoppers and fry and drink

0:51:54.520 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sitting there like, damn gonna treat myself today,

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 4>I felt like, And then I see this creature, this

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 4>beast of a man. Yes, go out here at eighteen

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 4>years old up talking about it was nothing to him.

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:09.840
<v Speaker 4>He went out there and ran one teams after that,

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, bro, I can't do what he does.

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 2>We all want different, but that's just how you are

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>as a you know, it's like quick to identify, you

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 2>need to identify who you are.

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeh yeah, No, absolutely, And it's I think it's so important.

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Like one of the things about the last regime that

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I always had a hard time with. It's like they

0:52:25.360 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>come in and they let Ryan Carrogan go. When they

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:30.120
<v Speaker 1>bring in Chase Young, they bring in Montes Sweat, like.

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:31.520
<v Speaker 2>They don't need somebody to grow up.

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>You need that guy in the room. And I don't

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>care if they're the best football player, but you need

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 1>someone to kind of saynt. This is how we respect

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the coach, This is how we take notes this is

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>how we you know, that that stuff that you don't

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>learn from a coach.

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I wish Bobby Wagner was here two

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 3>three years ago, because that locker room needed somebody to say,

0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 3>sit down, sit down, sit down, you've done nothing.

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>They didn't.

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.720
<v Speaker 4>They didn't have anybody, and they was leaning on Allen,

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:56.920
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And not to say that

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't a man fit for the job, but we

0:52:58.960 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 4>talked about it.

0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>He was young, and I think it's I think so

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think like all the all of these

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like young to old relationships like Luke McCaffrey, Teramnor and

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 1>all these guys. Austin Eckler for the running backs is

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>just going to be so incredibly important. The other thing

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed when you watch OTA practice is just how

0:53:17.280 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>locked in Jade Daniels is, Like he is ready to.

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Go, no bs, He's literally out there to work.

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>And so one of the things that's come out about

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>him is this VR training stuff, virtual reality training, so

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>basically they take the oculus, which is that kind of cool,

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, virtual reality.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 3>He's sitting in the locker room, I'm sitting in the

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 3>living room out date with it all blind and why

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 3>don't you do I see him throwing get out.

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>So so basically that that thing is pretty cool, I

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:49.359
<v Speaker 1>know if you guys, but it's it's it's like totallyculus. Yeah,

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>so when you look around, it kind of puts you there.

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So this German company for him when he was at

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Ye l s U, and now the commanders are using

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that same company here. They input stadiums and they were

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>able to input d fences and able to input offenses.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So he's able to kind of sit there with this

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.839
<v Speaker 1>oculus on get a rep. But it's a real rep

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's against a real defense. So one of the

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 1>things you're always chasing as a football player is how

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 1>do I So you watch film, right, but there's a

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a disconnect, right because it's like, oh,

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to kind of if I'm blocking a six,

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I gotta he's right over my head. Oh but he

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:21.839
<v Speaker 1>plays it a little bit tighter and you don't get

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to see the spacing exactly, so you're always kind of

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>projecting that he gets the exact spacing. Now, it's really

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>hard because you have to input a ton of plays

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to get these reactions and get these things, but in

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 1>terms of him being able to pick up this offense

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>so quickly like a he's studying a ton on his own.

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think this is such a cool tool to

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 1>put these guys in the cauld You imagine and you're like, hey, hey,

0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I get the coverage rotation in my VR headset. I

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:48.880
<v Speaker 1>don't even need to put the film on it here.

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 3>It is these I think they're gonna take it to

0:54:51.040 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 3>the next line. I mean, can we always see technology

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 3>meet sports? It always happens. Think about it, just something

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 3>lit like a video game, like man, you know, I

0:54:59.840 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 3>mean people didn't learn how to read a playbook from

0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 3>playing sad And again.

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>My first year in college, I learned more from Madden,

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of like basic coverages. Yes, because I

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, this is what he's talking about covering too, Yeah,

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:14.879
<v Speaker 1>and so I totally agree.

0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 3>So now imagine getting it with doubt that that they

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 3>press on your nie. Imagine getting it rip and being like, oh,

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see that last time. Let me let me

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 3>rewind this right, we like, So it's that visual rep

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 3>that I think that's gonna take them to the next level.

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Was making the quarterbacks better today and early ready to play.

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:36.880
<v Speaker 3>They did a thousand reps and sell on Selvy in

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 3>high school and college, so passing the ball is second

0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 3>nature to them. When I came out, uh as good

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 3>as Peyton Manning was, he didn't pass about fifty times

0:55:45.880 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a game at Tennessee Like, so this reps were so

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 3>far and in between that they had to get him

0:55:51.200 --> 0:55:52.799
<v Speaker 3>exactly right every time.

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I think this give them time to fail before they succeed.

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>So like I was at the combine and I was

0:55:57.880 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>at a bar and I bumped into the sky normal dude,

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and I find out he runs like the VR program

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>for LSU. Yeah, and so we started talking and we

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:05.879
<v Speaker 1>should see if we can get him on really good dude,

0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>just try to get him on here. So we'll keep

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>that in the loop of guests. But anyway, he was

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>saying in a week, I said, how many you know, like,

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>how many more reps is he getting a week? Like

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>are we talking here? He's like anywhere from two hundred

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and fifty to three hundred reps a week.

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So you think about it. In a practice, you're out

0:56:20.960 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>of practice. You're getting about thirty reps, forty reps maybe

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're throwing the football ton and that's over the

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>course of five days, you know what I mean. There

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>are four days, so that's one hundred and twenty reps.

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're trippling. Yeah, your repping take and.

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you resting?

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not, like you're not putting, You're not a

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>deserting energy. So to me, it's like it's like cheating.

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 2>No, No, it is.

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 4>I think it's dope because one I never heard of

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.520
<v Speaker 4>is I heard about the little virtual.

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Reality thing, but I just didn't know to what extent.

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 2>But I do recall.

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 4>It's crazy you bring up MAD. I wasn't big and

0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:52.640
<v Speaker 4>mad playing. I will play it with my kids or

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 4>something like that. And I caught on to it one day.

0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, hold on, do they have the real

0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 2>coverages on here?

0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 4>So I get in the game one day and like,

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 4>I literally was running our plays just to see the coverage. Yeah,

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 4>just to see the coverage from the other teams. Yes,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 4>And I wanted to see tannel when you're gonna be

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 4>opening this coverage? Yeah, when you're gonna be.

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Opening and I am the door. Promise to God it works.

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I worked.

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 4>I will literally see cover two and say oh this

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 4>round here, I'm gonna be opening the scene. I would

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 4>literally see how they played me in six and I'm like, okay,

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 4>so we're gonna get four over here and get two

0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 4>on this side.

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 2>So this guy gonna be I promise you. It elevated

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 2>my game. It's giving you.

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:37.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, why why I didn't think of this before?

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 4>But it was just because I'm watching the game one,

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm watching my kids. But I'm like a courage Yeah,

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I said run back, and then you ask Madden. You

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 4>asked Madden for a coverage and they give it to you.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh, hell, now they got the same book.

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:54.600
<v Speaker 2>So I went on the game and started using I

0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 2>played with nothing but me and just try to find

0:57:56.800 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 2>my way of curves taking you I raps different.

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 4>But the reason I was doing reason why I thought

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 4>it was so interesting because later in my later in

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 4>my years of playing, I remember knowing everybody positioning like, hey,

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 4>pr Is coming to you.

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Perre get ready and Pis come we come

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 2>back to it up. You're like, now I knew what

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I say.

0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 4>I saw the rope, I saw the rotation of the coverage.

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm the dec I'm going I'm gonna slow, I'm gonna

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 4>take this guy. So you're coming in on the the

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 4>one opening up, open it up.

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So it was mad and I was I was getting

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 2>those repts beforehand, you know what I'm saying.

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 1>But to that point, imagine if they could give you

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like so for example, everyone's running all these like a

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>morphous like quarters like match coverages. But imagine being able

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to see that see it now like like the real

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like in Madden, it's all spot dress right, it's all

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 1>over for cover two, cover three quarters like traditional quartershere

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the general spot That's incredibly helpful. I found it incredibly helpful.

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But now I can see what cover four match looks like.

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I see it meshes, I can see it

0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 3>mesh with these days.

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 4>That's the difference that you not getting the man you

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 4>got when you got the real rep because he going

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 4>Nick level now with mixed level.

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just like when we played they want clocking as speed.

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I bet if they was clocking as speed, we wasn't

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 3>blowing some of these speeds away because we was.

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:17.440
<v Speaker 2>We was running, dude, like we was, we was running.

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you now, I'm telling you, I think I

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 3>got the like thirty nine mile out one day.

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what?

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Maryland pulled me over, gave me a speed said, you're right,

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 2>you got one of the cars driving. You're like, so

0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 2>are you running over field doing step? Yes?

0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I was, hey, man. So we've also watched two practices.

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:46.440
<v Speaker 1>We've watched the first day of Rookie Minty Camp or

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Rookie Rookie Minty Camp. Let me watched the first day

0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 1>o Tas. It's not a ton. I think they've had like,

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>what is that five total practices? They got one today.

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Anybody obviously Jane Daniels stuck out, So let's just obviously

0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 1>he's stucking out, so we're going next to it him

1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:02.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody else that You're like, man, this dude.

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Mike Davis somebody didn't Nobody thought about when we signed him.

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 3>He was just a flake of a sign. I think

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.200
<v Speaker 3>people forget his veeran Steve. He's been around a long time.

1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.640
<v Speaker 3>He started a lot about six years six years he

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 3>started a lot of football, and I didn't know he

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 3>was built like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude when I saw him, I'm like.

1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Dude, all the corners now Greek gods out there, you

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 1>know Museum, the guy from Yet the State huge and

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>then Benjamin Saint Juice tall, Like It's just like the

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 1>whole body type has changed.

1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 4>I think a guy that stood that two guys stood up.

1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:36.320
<v Speaker 4>I told you how much of a man crushed. I

1:00:36.360 --> 1:00:38.640
<v Speaker 4>got on McGee, but not on just looking at him,

1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 4>but he ran. Jordan McGee ran around well and just

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:43.680
<v Speaker 4>to know what he has. You know, who knows when

1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:46.160
<v Speaker 4>he's a fifth round draft and who knows what's going

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 4>to be his future. But when you got guys in

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:50.560
<v Speaker 4>front of him like he do, Man, he's in a

1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 4>great position, you know what I mean. But the guy

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 4>stood out too to me with Hampton seeing how big

1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 4>was take the position like man, he wan four five,

1:00:59.240 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 4>but Joy came back five, you know I mean, I

1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:03.919
<v Speaker 4>mean he can make it out of something.

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<v Speaker 2>But bro, I just like his presence alone. And then

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:07.200
<v Speaker 2>he got to pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe I got to pick in that first o

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<v Speaker 4>TA practice and I was impressed with just you know,

1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:13.720
<v Speaker 4>how he went after the ball and just moved round.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's one of the things that stands out

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<v Speaker 4>more than anything because we've been watching these guys for years.

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<v Speaker 2>The athletic ability of these guys this year is just

1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:24.280
<v Speaker 2>like top cheered than what we had, you know what

1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And it's scary because now we know we're

1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:28.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna cut some good activities. Like this's what good teams do.

1:01:28.520 --> 1:01:29.560
<v Speaker 2>They cut good players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's like, I think the thing about Hampton

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<v Speaker 1>to he's the guy other guy that stuck out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so he's so like long arms, and he's tall,

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<v Speaker 1>and he runs well. And you're like, man, that is

1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:43.040
<v Speaker 1>like you drop you look up of like a dime linebacker,

1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Like that is the guy when you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>they did in Dallas, and it's like, hey, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in a lot of dime with curse one guy

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<v Speaker 1>like that and a guy that's not afraid to fit

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<v Speaker 1>a run. Not a guy you got you feel good

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<v Speaker 1>at coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>And a guy that threads to blitz so when you

1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 2>see him, you're thinking hot route.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. The guy with the and if this

1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:01.880
<v Speaker 1>is another thing that people are sleeping on, they've got

1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>all these guys with these crazy long arms, you know,

1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and that clouds throwing windows. Yeah, you know that that

1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:08.720
<v Speaker 1>makes it harder to throw the football. He's the guy

1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that stuck out. I think Luke McCaffrey every time I

1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>watch that, I run around, I'm just like, you're considering

1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you've only played receiver for two years, Like you are

1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:17.920
<v Speaker 1>so polished, so competitive.

1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he runs with this mixture of speed and power.

1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, reminds me.

1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Of it all over again. I'm watching his daddy. But

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember one Taylor Jacob Taylor Jakers. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>body being the only thing about Taylor Jakers. And I

1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:35.919
<v Speaker 3>don't want to I want you to finish this story.

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<v Speaker 2>He was light on he was light on his toes. Yeah,

1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:38.600
<v Speaker 2>he would light but.

1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:44.240
<v Speaker 1>That was an old head that Tennis said that lighter

1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:45.240
<v Speaker 1>on his toe Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but but but when Taylor would know what I'm

1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 3>talking about, he would run with power and he would

1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:52.360
<v Speaker 3>he would like go in the room, I mean weight

1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.880
<v Speaker 3>room with Taylor Jacob and he would literally get to live.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish, I wish I could have had more years

1:02:58.200 --> 1:02:59.960
<v Speaker 4>when he's a guy like he's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 4>when you have young talent. Yeah, you wish you could

1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:05.400
<v Speaker 4>have just like come, come come with me. You know

1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.400
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying. I wasn't at the state to doing

1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:09.520
<v Speaker 4>that with nobody that time. This was my first year here.

1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I was all about trying to establish yourself. But when

1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:14.040
<v Speaker 4>I look back and I'm like, he was going so quick,

1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:17.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, damn, we brought Brandon Lloyd Gift.

1:03:17.120 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>It broke all the intangibles, Man Bailey said.

1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:24.080
<v Speaker 3>The years I split with Champ, out of all the

1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:28.760
<v Speaker 3>receivers we practiced with, Taylor Jacob gave us the most giving.

1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Not Rod Gardner, not Michael Richbrook, got none of these. Dude,

1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Jacobs had a mixture of route. He would disappear

1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:38.880
<v Speaker 3>when the lights came on.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't come on. It didn't trans see that so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, and you know what, guys don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't they don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 4>And everybody's like, I say, this game, you you meet

1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:54.200
<v Speaker 4>so many different guys and they make they make it

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<v Speaker 4>happen in a in a zillion different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody just can't walk out there and make a play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sometime you need help, sometime you need to pray something.

1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:03.560
<v Speaker 2>It's something.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember him trying to dibb and dab into

1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:09.600
<v Speaker 4>every way and I and I remember looking at it like, oh,

1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:12.640
<v Speaker 4>he's trying to find that one is going to help

1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:15.200
<v Speaker 4>him beat this guy. All the time, because he'll show up.

1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.560
<v Speaker 4>That's the that's the mom I want to I want

1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:18.080
<v Speaker 4>to see him.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, and then you don't. Then you don't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I know Jason and the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, bro like I used to see him, try to

1:04:32.360 --> 1:04:36.080
<v Speaker 4>tap into different ways of finding that guy, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you just got to say this is who you are,

1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Like whatever you did that day, do it again.

1:04:40.680 --> 1:04:42.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. And they had to be

1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the most frustrating thing for a coach to have a

1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:47.439
<v Speaker 2>player that go up like this, said practice and beat

1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl. I remember, I remember hearing the coaches ask

1:04:51.200 --> 1:04:52.640
<v Speaker 2>questions like, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you at, Like why won't he show up on here,

1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:58.919
<v Speaker 3>get right in the game, run that route and drop

1:04:59.040 --> 1:04:59.400
<v Speaker 3>that ball?

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<v Speaker 4>And Practice wouldn't drop it, not one hands. I mean

1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:07.360
<v Speaker 4>you see small my hands, it is huge, strong, and

1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:10.120
<v Speaker 4>you'd be like god, Taylor, like he's not missing nothing,

1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:11.880
<v Speaker 4>you got it, don't don't think about it.

1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:12.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's overthinking.

1:05:12.920 --> 1:05:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a hundred percent right, you know,

1:05:14.880 --> 1:05:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Like as a you know, people ask me about what's

1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it like to be an undrafted free agent or whatever,

1:05:19.040 --> 1:05:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a low drafted guy. There's a lot of pressure you

1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:22.880
<v Speaker 1>put on yourself, just put yourself in a bad spot.

1:05:23.000 --> 1:05:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But in terms of other guys that have stuck out

1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:27.040
<v Speaker 1>to me, Frankie Luvu, I mean looks like a U.

1:05:27.160 --> 1:05:28.440
<v Speaker 2>He looks so good and it folds.

1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Looks like a dude, Jeremy Chin talking about we talk

1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:34.240
<v Speaker 1>about big, long guys like I mean, I don't know.

1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I always impressed him when he was out there run around.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a pick on that day against Mariota. And

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<v Speaker 1>then two other guys. One is Bryson Tremaine's a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That you've been putting for. Bryson for like two years.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a rookie last year, so it's impossible, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying like he he just like he's big. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks different than the other receivers. Somebody just said that

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<v Speaker 1>he's big. He's been making contested catches and and he's

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<v Speaker 1>good on teams. So in terms of a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe like a I'm shot to make the roster

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<v Speaker 1>if he keeps playing like this, that's a guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Colston Yankov from my guy, Dude, this is my guy,

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<v Speaker 1>way better than I expect.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you about him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you watched him though, because guess

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<v Speaker 3>what he played for Little Millton University. But no, I

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<v Speaker 3>looked up a lot of his past and I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>intrigued when I see big guys play like four positions.

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<v Speaker 4>This telling me you're so good at something that nobody

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<v Speaker 4>knows where to play you at. And sometimes people don't

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<v Speaker 4>grow into their body until they get to the league.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we might have had a guy at wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>It guy turns out to be a deepest man.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy when you showed me you play the little

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback and lit tight end and little tail back and

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<v Speaker 3>like it's athlete right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to watch him. Rogers look pretty good too.

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<v Speaker 1>Our money. Yeah, I mean he looks the part.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's just huge.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like six seven, yeah, six six, he can run, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how was he ever a quarterback in what universe?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a quarterback? Do y'all remember like just the

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<v Speaker 2>one season he had two years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, we might got something we do, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? So I was, I was, I

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<v Speaker 4>was pissed that we didn't have that last year. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm hoping a guy like that, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be harder now with the tight endom and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, hey, if you can make it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he can show what he showed like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember having conversations with people from the old staff saying, all,

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<v Speaker 1>we think he can play receipt and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on. Then he had that explosive screencat and yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he's running people over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't wait to go get my weird ast

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<v Speaker 2>yank off shirt. This one weird ass yank all love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna rocket most definitely because I want him to

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<v Speaker 2>make the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we do it for the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>do have one more practice that's open to the media

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Yeah, I'm gonna try and get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are up to it. Yeah, try

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<v Speaker 1>to get out there and watch practice, give you guys

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<v Speaker 1>an update, and then we're gonna keep you posting on

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<v Speaker 1>some of these other hires as they come in, and

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<v Speaker 1>us looking at each other and just sit that's wear that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to do it, Fred, that's it.

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