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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we talked

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Speaker 1: Senior VP of Football Operations Brandon Whofras, Susna Susna we go.

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Speaker 1: We got schedule released as from the player's perspective, do

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Speaker 1: we care? Do we not care? Say to me to

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Speaker 1: find out. And we got OTA's which you're always fun

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. We've got VR training. What does

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Speaker 1: that look like?

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Speaker 2: It all starts right out.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Fred Spoot and Santana Moss and guys. Well, first off,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this Fred. Yeah, just went on a trip.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did trip with the kids.

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Speaker 3: Drove all the way down to Birmingham, Alabama for au

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Speaker 3: tournament with you. Saw a lot of people down there.

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Speaker 3: Then household Joe back to Virginia for the Dale Green

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Speaker 3: Foundation Tournament golf tournament.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well I helped raise almost thirty five fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: in the auction. I'm the auctioneer, so I hear.

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Speaker 1: You were not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an auction.

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Speaker 1: Good job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I get people to dig in their pockets. I'm

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Speaker 2: good at that.

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Speaker 3: Dig in the pockets, get that well, we take the

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Speaker 3: kind at Jingles, but we'd rather have the kind of

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Speaker 3: folk like that, just what it is. And we raised

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Speaker 3: over thirty thousand dollars and forty five minutes yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I mean you got he got a lot of practice

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Speaker 2: from his dad in the church. Yeah, you know, you

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Speaker 2: know how it go. Hear that we take the kind

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Speaker 2: of we love the you all heard of that a

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Speaker 2: lot of time place around. Don't put no change in there.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they still give like I didn't. I didn't been

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Speaker 1: an auctional while do they still give like money? They give

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Speaker 1: like checks and they get.

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Speaker 2: Like, well now they can do it instantly.

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Speaker 3: They can walk around with the credit card thing, or

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Speaker 3: they can write a check and stuff like that. We

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Speaker 3: had a couple of their jersey's self up close to

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Speaker 3: four thousand dollars. Yes suff we was even selling just

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Speaker 3: regular golf shirts. I talked to them and just buying

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Speaker 3: them for three hundred dollars. So whatever he is selling,

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Speaker 3: you need a salesman. And see, I think in my

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Speaker 3: former life I used to be a daughter door a

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Speaker 3: vacuum salesman in the early seventies.

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Speaker 1: That's tough, living, man, It's rough. You got a vacuum

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Speaker 1: I don't care, dude. I had a guy come buy

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Speaker 1: my house the other day and you don't like they're

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Speaker 1: selling pest control or whatever, and you know usually sow.

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Speaker 1: You know, sir, we don't spray, Like my wife doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to spray because you don't want to touch. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: because we got dogs or something. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, so we don't. We don't. We've never used it.

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Speaker 1: We've in our house for ten years. You don't spray

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Speaker 1: for pests. Yeah, he goes, I appreciate that, sir, But

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Speaker 1: what about this? And I was like, you know, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking. This guy came back at me relentlessly five

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Speaker 1: or six times.

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Speaker 2: That's the skills.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not exaggerating. It was like I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, thank you. Oh what about this?

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Speaker 1: You showed me a picture or something about this. This

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Speaker 1: is scary. You want to go? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: he showed you.

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Speaker 2: A praying man could be tech. They need his one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they need one person. Man.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't be a salesman because once you tell me no,

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Speaker 4: you won't turn around and going to the But that's

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Speaker 4: how they do.

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Speaker 2: They knock on your door.

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Speaker 3: They'd be like yeah, look like you need a roof,

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Speaker 3: And I'd be like, no, this roof just got put

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Speaker 3: on three years and they're like, oh okay, uh in

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Speaker 3: five years you need to return, you need to replace

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Speaker 3: the No, no, no, these are supposed to be thirty shit.

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Speaker 1: If everyone they go like, well, you know, like with

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Speaker 1: they're like pulling ship off knowing not that we're saying

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Speaker 1: anyone do anything untoward there, but of course.

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Speaker 2: They thet salesman like this, like that's what we are

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Speaker 2: in the in the United States. We know things a

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Speaker 2: certain way, but then we just we choose not the

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Speaker 3: I saying what you want to they're gonna say it

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about Tannem was just talking with

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Speaker 1: Jason about cars and how that is and anyway, that's that.

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Speaker 1: But the reason I know we started talking about salesman

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Speaker 1: for whatever because friends of salesman. But I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring up your trip to Birmingham because your daughter

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Speaker 1: got a scholarship offer them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she did cap Berkeley for this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thinks she's you know, she she's getting there where she

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Speaker 1: get that from that basketball?

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Speaker 2: But she got it from my daddy Russell has Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she's built exactly like me.

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Speaker 1: We got video evidence fight no listen.

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Speaker 3: I was exhausted, like he's a tank, all right, and

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Speaker 3: sometimes like they say, you can't fight a tank with

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Speaker 3: a dirt, boy, Now you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it.

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Speaker 2: And then he was just leaning on men.

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Speaker 3: He would literally take the ball out and hand it

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Speaker 3: to me like an inch, Like who does that? Like

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Speaker 3: this is a guy that felt like if I let

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Speaker 3: his quickness come into this, I won't be to stop.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: He had a plan.

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Speaker 1: You didn't. I did.

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Speaker 3: Really, That's that's who you are. But that's what I

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Speaker 3: gotta say this. Congratulations to Kendrick Ghosted and you're right.

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Speaker 3: And of those guys they would take on the head

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Speaker 3: coaching job and stone Bridge and Virginia, I can't Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see that staff.

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Speaker 2: You I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna like

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Speaker 2: I'm not coaching. This is what I will do.

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Speaker 3: I will train, I will help guys, and I will

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Speaker 3: talk to him and I will mentor then coaching.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's too much time, man.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of time. They give you a something.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a stip, but it's literally like

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Speaker 1: seven dollars. It's like seven dollars an hour.

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Speaker 2: I can't do that in low count. Yeah, you cannot

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Speaker 2: leave while coaching in lowcot.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one hundred percent true. All right, So just

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Speaker 1: a reminder, we got that hawk outside dot com, that

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Speaker 1: hawk outside, that hawk outside dot com. Yeah at gmail

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Speaker 1: that hawk outside at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so we got we're getting out shirts, right.

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Speaker 2: Fred, Yeah, free shirt, free shirts shirt.

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Speaker 1: Twenty winners for a free shirt this is and then

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Speaker 1: five money lucky winners for us, signed shirt by all

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Speaker 1: three of us. Yeah, and this is the last opportunity.

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Speaker 1: This is last time we're gonna do it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: make our selections here very soon, right, Jason, that's coming

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Speaker 1: up making those selections. He's nodding, last chance. So make

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Speaker 1: sure you get that those submissions in. You guys done

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Speaker 1: a great job. And also that's a great spot to

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Speaker 1: leave show ideas moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us. What you want us to talk about

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Speaker 2: any subjects in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the mailman segment, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mailman, the milkmandy, whoever it is, these jobs

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Speaker 2: Preacher Man by the way, you know it was Man. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: whatever anything and with Man, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And then we got a live show coming up right

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Speaker 1: on June fourteenth. We're finalizing the location now, but make

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Speaker 1: sure you guys keep an eye out for that. We're

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Speaker 1: us for the live event. That's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: No, it's going to be very exciting.

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Speaker 1: I can Is it like at a bar you think,

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Speaker 2: I think it should be at a bar. You need

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Speaker 2: No, we we don't know. Yeah, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, everyone calm down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah everyone, we haven't figured it out. I heard some

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Speaker 2: names and I gotta look, it's all good. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: You just got to punch it in sometimes handed off.

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Speaker 1: So let's stay stay with it all right now in

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Speaker 1: Commander's news. We've got some kind of exciting news this

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Speaker 1: I was. The more research we did for this show,

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Speaker 1: new senior VP of Football off Operations, Brandon Sosa.

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Speaker 2: Sosna is sona, sona, sona.

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Speaker 1: You're bad with pronunciations on I'm bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm worth too, but I've heard.

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Speaker 1: So we'll call him Brandon fro.

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Speaker 2: Jason put whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So basically he is the new Senior VP of

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Speaker 1: Football Operations. But man, he has a crazy crazy resume

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Speaker 1: but also crazy like job description at the moment. So

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Speaker 1: first off, he reports directly JP. He's the lead contract negotiator.

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Speaker 1: He oversees not only analytics but also health and performance

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Speaker 1: and also football administration. He's the liaison to business operations

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Speaker 1: get their stadium bill, and he's got a major role

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Speaker 1: in roster, construction, salary, cap and the CBA. Heude's thirty

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Speaker 1: one years old. Yeah, like, and that just seems like

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Speaker 1: he's got his hand in everything.

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Speaker 2: That seems like he's a nerd.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, this is what I that's what I like.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, rhythme is a French word. By

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Speaker 1: The end of the day. I think, no, he's.

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Speaker 3: So, he's one of these He's one of these brainy

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Speaker 4: They come out from a guy you're pulling from other

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Speaker 3: This is when they had danz Manrita South Gardiner, Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing that with everybody that I'm straking off of.

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Speaker 2: And we know how important that is.

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Speaker 2: So now that tells me he has future visions. No,

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Speaker 1: You just got a good feel for the dollars and sons, yea,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he goes to Detroit, and Detroit one

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Speaker 2: So his track records tells me he blows. He glows

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Speaker 4: So, like I said, that's the first thing I saw

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Speaker 2: We will, we promise we will get your last name correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give it one more time because I

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I wish it was not what you want to say.

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Speaker 2: That's a football name.

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Speaker 2: Not because he said enough. I didn't even think about

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Speaker 3: Think about it, all right, you're gonna always circle the game.

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Speaker 3: Football player, I like Steve Smith. I'm circlingly the Panthers game.

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Speaker 1: But you do that now? Are you to do that

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm circling that game. Because they didn't believe in me. No,

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Speaker 4: Then you know you got like you take a special

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't somebody start talking about all in week five,

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Speaker 1: The other way.

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Speaker 4: I just want to know when you say, when we

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about that first game because I want to

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Speaker 2: And then once things get flown.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you see it because you see the

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Speaker 4: Of myself, because we all.

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Speaker 4: We have beefs in our own little mind, or have

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Speaker 3: finally get to check Jerry right, I've been dreaming about

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Speaker 3: this my O.

444
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 2: It was' you.

445
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 3: Know what, I feel so bad that I feel so

446
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,600
Speaker 3: bad that I did the old man like that.

447
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 1: I feel so bad.

448
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,440
Speaker 3: No, he was actually playing. Actually we played the forty

449
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,440
Speaker 3: nine and Stokes he was gone.

450
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 2: He was right, he was at the Oakland.

451
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 3: So I got to play him and Tim Brown, I

452
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,920
Speaker 3: mean Tim and Tim Brown, which I like, we beating

453
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 3: up on the old folks home. So I played against

454
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 3: older right, I played against dirty Rice. I didn't play

455
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,440
Speaker 3: against you know, fresh out Lone Grain. I ain't playing

456
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 3: against Loan against San Francisco, Yeah, long Grain, right, But

457
00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,480
Speaker 3: it was a dream, And then I also think about it.

458
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,000
Speaker 2: A dude coming in and lead young.

459
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,440
Speaker 3: Oh we got the vicers this year. Randy Mouse is

460
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,919
Speaker 3: the first thing coming to your mind. I got Randy,

461
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 3: I got Chris Carter. So yeah, I think you open

462
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 3: for the challenges, but now you get to see, okay,

463
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,119
Speaker 3: this is the day these challenges gonna be on me.

464
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

465
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 4: See, I knew I was one of those guys that

466
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 4: if I allowed whatever beef I got with you, it'll

467
00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 4: overtake me.

468
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It would like you know,

469
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 2: I'll take you out your game, bingo.

470
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm not a guy like I allowed whatever it goes

471
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 4: on in the game to affect me as that moment.

472
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,240
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

473
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 4: So I say, Fanswains, I'm in the game and you yapping,

474
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna yap back. I'm gonna let you yap

475
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 4: because I know all I gotta do is perform. You

476
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, And when I perform that that

477
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 4: speaks louder.

478
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 2: Than me yapping.

479
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,879
Speaker 4: Now if I yap, if I get into a yapping

480
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 4: contest with you, you're gonna win because that's what you do.

481
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 4: You're trying to do that and make sure I get

482
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 4: off my game. So I used to laugh at guys.

483
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 4: And I remember it gets to like my fourth or

484
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 4: fifth year, I see a guy in the off season.

485
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 4: Dude came to me and saying, I can't even be

486
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 4: mad at you, Bro, you grinned at me, and then

487
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 4: with for one hundred he said, you're the same way

488
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 4: I was all built to say, grant at me, bro,

489
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, what I'm grinding at me for?

490
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 2: And I say, bro, because I know when I the

491
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 2: way I get back at you. You see in the

492
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 2: back of my damn jersey. You know what I'm saying.

493
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 2: And so I'm not gonna get into that match.

494
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 4: So but I also know me too that if I

495
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 4: do start looking, I'm gonna just go to think about

496
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 4: I'm trying me, you know what I'm saying.

497
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: And now I'm out my game already because I'm I'm

498
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: really you emotionally spent. Well, I'm thinking about what.

499
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 4: I remember this moment, you know what I mean. So

500
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 4: that's why I try to make sure I just stay

501
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 4: away from all that.

502
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 2: Like smooth. I laughed nice of him and see him

503
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 2: and Steve Smith go at it with words.

504
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: Across the I said, boy, them boys built different, especially Chad, Chad,

505
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 4: you since since stuff to start his list, man, you

506
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 4: want to talk about schedule watching, Chad had a list

507
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 4: of all seventeen dB He went on to talk about

508
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 4: the top.

509
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: DB's on his team, and he's just trying to cross

510
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: us out. And he was like, you know, I got

511
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: you this week, called me the week before the game,

512
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: I got you this. We gotta say, no, you know,

513
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: I got you this week. So at the end of

514
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 3: the day, I see you on Sunday and we had

515
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 3: that battle. Now, like you can't scratch me out because

516
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 3: you had as many of us against me as a

517
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: dead man.

518
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: So I got a question. This is just came to

519
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: me right now. Why is it that receiversvs. Receivers and

520
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: corners are such devus. It's like, get away from the ball.

521
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 1: The more it becomes about me, me, me, even like

522
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: tight End starts staying up, it's like, oh no, Like

523
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? Like do you know? I

524
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: mean they get the ball lot, But it's like, and you.

525
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: Gotta have it in somewhat insane personality to be out

526
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: there on their freeway constantly baling these dudes, and we

527
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 3: gotta do.

528
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Think about this.

529
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: If I coad you out and say this is a

530
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: position you play. You got to go backwards with the

531
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: fastest at least in the world.

532
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: Do forward.

533
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be a little insane to be really

534
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: at you and the talking it's a way to psyche

535
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: yourself out almost because you got to think about it.

536
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: Cornerback is a position of imperfection. We're going to get beat.

537
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: It ain't no if it ain't no win, it's you're

538
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 3: going to get beat. Now, what are you gonna do?

539
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: But offensive lineman, man, they have a very similar situation.

540
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: They don't talk right, yeah.

541
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 2: But they also don't get singled out like to get beat.

542
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 4: See you understand some defensive backs and I can't speak

543
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: for safeties, but they're in that same I guess you

544
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 4: can say ballpark when it comes to the corners and

545
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 4: the receiver there are they like basketball players when it

546
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 4: comes to our sport, meaning meaning when it looks they're

547
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: individually battling all day, one on one.

548
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Like, regardless of what the

549
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: coverage is, I see you, you see me? Yeah, Rather I.

550
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: Get the ball now if I beat you, we counted

551
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: against what I'm saying, it's a it's it's.

552
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: A check, it's got you got it. I got so.

553
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 2: I could look at him all day while I was

554
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: tean thread up. If I ain't had.

555
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: I he was open most so at the end of

556
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 4: the day, we play individual sport amongst a bunch of

557
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: guys on the team.

558
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

559
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: So me personally, I couldn't answer the question more than

560
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 4: what I just answered because I never saw myself in

561
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: that light.

562
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: But I never tried to put myself.

563
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: Inside you, never like talked you always a dude. You

564
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: had your little celebration.

565
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 2: Get it wrong, That's what I say. That's after the

566
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: that's after I don'neal what I had to do when

567
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: I do my job. Can't tell me how to celebrate.

568
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. I have a different one.

569
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to spend the You know, I told you ill.

570
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: I was watching film coming up the highway.

571
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: Right, I'm having a hard time with this. Listen, I.

572
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: Genuinely listened to it. Right, I'm watching Santanna. I don't

573
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: know how I got to Santawn and I started noticing

574
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: so every time he scored in college, especially when he

575
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: first got in the league, when he crossed the end zone.

576
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 2: He was gonna unbutton his up. He's gonna unbutton that.

577
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: He had got to a point where he he had

578
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: to think about it.

579
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: I seen him.

580
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: Somebody was tackling him going across the line.

581
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: He was.

582
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: He noticed that. I was like, what that was?

583
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: That was part of my celebration that it was hit.

584
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: Like people will get enamored with the bass bend. I

585
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: laughed about that because I spent. I was spending the

586
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: ball since I was Jay high. I remember I got

587
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: a penalty in college. You know they come out, you

588
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 4: know how they doing the league, how the refs come

589
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: out and stuff. So in college, my first game back

590
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 4: after my broke jaw, we're playing Cincinnati Bearcats.

591
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: I spend the ball and they went to.

592
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: Time We went to UH to a time out, you

593
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: know how you get a break and when it coming

594
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 4: things came back and say the ball still spinding from

595
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: sixty and like it's crazy. The first meeting me had

596
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: going into the next season, the officials told me, hey,

597
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: you can't do this no more, really, And I'm like what,

598
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 4: I grew up watching this guy spend the ball, that

599
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: guy spinning ball, and.

600
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: Now you you point me out for spending the football.

601
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: So my coach told me tenam spent for every catch

602
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: until you score, spend the ball. So you know, I

603
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 2: would have to wait to score. But that was a touchdown.

604
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: They told me I couldn't do it.

605
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 4: But besides the spending the ball thing, I was always

606
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 4: that was like something that was like a swag thing.

607
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 4: It's not that that button off because that's a Miami thing.

608
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: A job done. Yeah, kind of sick. But I didn't

609
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: know that you would notice that. I no, I just

610
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: like it never failed, Like I like, let me look,

611
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check. I checked out.

612
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: I said, you were watching, now you're talking.

613
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: I would like, let me check.

614
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: So I went back the team every touchdown from CODs

615
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: and he did it every time.

616
00:24:59,720 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 2: Same.

617
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always thought it was because the receivers and

618
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: corners run camera a lot, so they had to do something,

619
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying now.

620
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: We also we almost independent contractors.

621
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: We had the same battery as y'all, but we got

622
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: internal wars going on outside.

623
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: In our wars, I magnified, you know, like you can.

624
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: You can have a good battery in the trenches and

625
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: they won't talk about it till two weeks later, I'm

626
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: gonna get dogged that day.

627
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I used to always do and now

628
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: I know we want to we're gonna move on. But

629
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: my other thing I used to do is just tapping,

630
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I feel like that was

631
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: just I feel like so many people was doing that

632
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: haigh to change. I'm like, damn everybody doing the tap

633
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: to the chest and yet better guys.

634
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was thinking about the Thanksgiving game in

635
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: twenty twelve and I remember you getting getting into it

636
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: with a dB after you score a touchdown. I no

637
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: remember how to grab you.

638
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: It was like you grabbed me.

639
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: That was that was That was Pierre's touchdown and you

640
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 4: were talking and that was a guy. Him and Pierre

641
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: was going at it, but he pushed Pierre hard to

642
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: the ground. So I was just defending my guy. You know,

643
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: I'm I'm not I'm not one of those guys that

644
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 4: liked to get into those you know. I guess you

645
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 4: say contests, but when you and the heat of battle,

646
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: man so much goes on. Man, you just react.

647
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: You're a pure man, not dudee.

648
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: I played Er when he was in the Bull Listen.

649
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: Is he like that even when he was young.

650
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: You know, some somewhere receivers don't take pride in.

651
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: Listen.

652
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: I was watching film on Pierre. I said, he actually

653
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: blocking people to hurt them against He's trying to tire

654
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: you out like so, because you know he could easily

655
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: just get in front of you, shield you block. You know,

656
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: he is literally he's trying to bury you and he's

657
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: trying to hurt something on you.

658
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: So when you have to check him.

659
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: He was already hard to tackle with me, honest like,

660
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: he one of the few big guys to just give

661
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: me the ball quick.

662
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: I keep running him and kwombole anybody built like.

663
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 4: That took that, took it out of mind. I was

664
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 4: going to say he had that and kwam bolting effect

665
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: to me faster than an kwan. But they're so big,

666
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: you know, they can bully guys outside and then they're

667
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: gonna beat you.

668
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and beat you de boy just out you know,

669
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: out route, you know, rout you up or whatever. But

670
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: not hands. That was a good guy.

671
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: I love the face.

672
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: I got a chance to play with him because I

673
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: watched him play with Reggie and I remember he came

674
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: over here. I remember he said something to me. It

675
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 4: was funny He was like, yeah, boy, you're different from Reggie.

676
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: That's why I laughed.

677
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: I say, we know everybody else he said, boy it

678
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: was boy was like you want Reggie, want that ball?

679
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean at that time because Marvin's gone,

680
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: yeahge like this, this gotta be all me.

681
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: But but Pierre had his last thing the year that

682
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: he came here. The year before he came here, that

683
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: was his best season over there in Indie. And I

684
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: think he he out. I don't know if he had

685
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: more I don't know if he caught Reggie or had

686
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: more y. He had a great season.

687
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: That's something that I think people need to do more

688
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: now on today's game. It's like, sure, just try to

689
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: wear that dude out. I used to do like blocking

690
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: like people was like, why did you finish so much?

691
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: Because I know I'm in a little bit better shape.

692
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: And like this guy who's really talented, if I can

693
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: get him on the ground a couple of times, get

694
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: that jersey dirty, he gets a little I heard it does.

695
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: And now I guess what, you catch that slint and

696
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tack you and I slide down your bio.

697
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: You know what, I hate it?

698
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: And this for them dbs that did it to me,

699
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: so they do just so happened to listen to our part.

700
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: I remember having a guy that talked messed about me.

701
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: He wouldn't said to.

702
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Me personally, said it to somebody else. And I get

703
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: in the game with him. You know how you say

704
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: you have people circle. Yeah, he was boy. I knew

705
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: he was playing that team. I didn't really care about it.

706
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: I say, if he on that team at the time

707
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: we get there, I'm gonna get it. I won't. I'm

708
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna block him. I'm gonna out round him.

709
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show him every play while you don't speak

710
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: my name up like that in bank and Bro.

711
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: When I say I got there, we was in.

712
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: It was I was backside like I was going to

713
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: get a stay your turnaround smart, I'm.

714
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Talking, what's up?

715
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: Bro?

716
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: You're good? Want to give me?

717
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: You know the patter in the back all right? Not

718
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: a family boy, Ain't no family boy. It's just every

719
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 4: play I was doing something at him. So now I'm

720
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: front side. I'm blocking good now man, he goneat he down,

721
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: bir stopped telling me, I'm good. This is an all

722
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: day thing. This is no negotiat, but they got to

723
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: the point to where I saw I said, now I

724
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: got him. He now I knew it was just talk,

725
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: So now I got you want me my friend. So

726
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 4: by the time I've had six and seven catches on him,

727
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: he's so funny helping me about the ground. I said,

728
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: you took his soul out because at that point you

729
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: said something that he didn't even know. He cut me,

730
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 4: and I was like, I want to tried me. So

731
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 4: I was waiting for him. I didn't say nothing back.

732
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: I didn't want to send no messages bas So I'm

733
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: gona see him when I see him.

734
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: That you you remember David Boston, right, yea, the evil man,

735
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: David Boss.

736
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: If y'all know, he was six three, like two hundred

737
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds.

738
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: Social you have to say then, when I told him

739
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: before the game, I was like, humans don't grow this

740
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: beg and he he looked at me.

741
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: He had these red contexts context I like, is you

742
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: the damn Are you trying to pretend to be the devil.

743
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I'm one the damn devil, and I

744
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: get They tossed the sweep the first play. He cut me,

745
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: like they play ain't even on the outside. I'm trying to,

746
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, take my break it. He cut me from

747
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: the back. Oh my god, I said, dude, don't nobody

748
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: to do that.

749
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: He said, I do it. I'm gonna do it for foe. Man,

750
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: I got some blocking battle.

751
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: What didn't do?

752
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: I like, you wasn't winning that back with him? Too

753
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: strong body building man.

754
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sick, dude, He's he's a six dude. Anyway,

755
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I should have said we should get back to the schedule.

756
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had a fan.

757
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 5: As a fan, I gotta jump and ask a question.

758
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: Have you ever Fred? I know you've probably been on

759
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: the opposite side of this batanna. Have you ever had

760
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 5: somebody trash talking you during the game and then they

761
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 5: just say something that's like funny and you're like, I

762
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: should be mad at you.

763
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: But that was pretty good.

764
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: You know, it's so crazy appropriate before you said no,

765
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: But so I'm gonna ask you the question first. No,

766
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: I never had anybody, but I got a little I

767
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 4: guess you said. I got to say a little nugget

768
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: from a from a teammate that told me, Hey, man,

769
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if you do this, but you know

770
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: what I do is going to media Guide and I

771
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: read what they're who their family members are, and I

772
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: get the girlfriend name and I say the girlfriend name, and.

773
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: Bro, I swear to god, I never used it.

774
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 4: But there was a guy that got on my nerves

775
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: in college and he went to saying something before the game,

776
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: like he talked.

777
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: He didn't get up my nerve when it came to

778
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: us playing. It's just he talks.

779
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, hey, how Felicia, if you're

780
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: talking about seeing somebody just like hard almost leave their chesty.

781
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: Me, how you know, Felicia, Hey, hey check this out. No, bro,

782
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: we'll talk later, we'll talk.

783
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: We'll talk about and it's a rap that's talking about

784
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 4: like and I didn't know who the girl was. I

785
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: didn't know who how much, But sixty minutes this man

786
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: asked me about that.

787
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Girl out his game.

788
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Hey live.

789
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: That's what I did in college with this dot com.

790
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: That's what I told you.

791
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: I supposed to be on a Twitter not even months

792
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: swoopsm dot com. I gained information from the student body

793
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: and I found out girlfriends sisters, and I weaponized it.

794
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking about to the team. I'm glad no one

795
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: ever used that to you.

796
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: Know, use that me because I could just imagine like

797
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: I felt bad after I said it.

798
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: But that was the other guy too. He was like, man,

799
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: this guy always talking.

800
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say somebody's mama, or I'm gonna say somebody's check.

801
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I saw I saw a Naws do that once, and uh,

802
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: it was just the guy's face was just like he

803
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: was like kind of all up in his face. And

804
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: I said something about his old lady and then it

805
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: was just like it was over.

806
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: And I just was like, they go, they go, Dorman

807
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: on you. I've done it minute time.

808
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: That's tough.

809
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: It's like whatever I can do to rattle you.

810
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Apparently that works pretty well. It does, all right. So

811
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: the other thing, back to schedule. I know we took

812
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: a little digression there, but that's always fun.

813
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: We didn't really care about the schedule.

814
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, late by again this time? Do we care?

815
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: Is that a big deal.

816
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: I'm just tired of it.

817
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: I'm just tired of because it seemed like this, let's

818
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: sit there to watch the team up for Fie. Let's

819
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: get him a buy in week seventeen, Like no, man,

820
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: I wish that the bye was week seven, eight, nine, ten,

821
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: something that can get these guys.

822
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: I need it.

823
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: I need a break, Let me get away. I think

824
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: I don't really get too caught up into it. I

825
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: feel like now that we cover the team, it's more

826
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: to talk about. As a player, you kind of you

827
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 4: notice it and you be like, damn what you look

828
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: at and and say, hey, bright side is if I

829
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: can make it to this, you know what I mean?

830
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: I got, But you don't want to be on the road,

831
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's the only thing about it, Like,

832
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: if you make it to that point, you're not hoping

833
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: that you're doing bad, but you're hoping I.

834
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: Need a break. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

835
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: But I don't want to see the team flourishing at

836
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: the top of that, you know, at the peak of

837
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: their game, everything is clicking, and then they say here's

838
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 4: the bye week, because that could be detrimentaly, you know

839
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: what I mean. So hopefully it works out well.

840
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: So the question is, also I think that by comes

841
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: after a Thursday night game, two days, two.

842
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Weeks after two weeks afterwards game is I think we

843
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: could eleven And.

844
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: So they're trying to say that that Thursday night, so

845
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: they extended.

846
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: But last year ear Last year, the Commanders had a

847
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: I think it was the Thursday night game, week eight,

848
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: which makes more sense because it's kind of right smack

849
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: dab in the middle. You get that little bye week there,

850
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit different schedule. All their breaks

851
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: kind of come later in the season.

852
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: I think it'd be interesting also just how the coaches,

853
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: you know, notice what's going on with that, and just

854
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: say how they kind of conduct things throughout the week,

855
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 4: you know, each and every week.

856
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Said, but I'm really glad you about that point about

857
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: the late bye, because I remember being like we had

858
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: a late bye. I forget we had this conversation was

859
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: like two thousand and third, whatever, thousand and two whatever.

860
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I was playing pretty good and I didn't want to leave.

861
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I was like I was in like I was in

862
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: like a groove, yeah, saying I understood my week was set,

863
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, let's just play the rest of

864
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: the season.

865
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, before we move on, what you can

866
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 4: do as a player. I did this before, especially with

867
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: the Jets. I was a young pup. We had a

868
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 4: late by, and I'm just starting to feel like I'm

869
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: a part of the team now, Like I it took

870
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: me a while, I got hurried out the gate. So

871
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm starting to feel myself. When everybody left, I stay

872
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: right there. I came back to Price, I came to

873
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: the facility every day. I caught passes from Chad Pennington

874
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: and like we did things individually that when we went

875
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 4: the next week, I scored my first touchdown. So I'm like, look,

876
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: that's by I took advantage of it by staying in

877
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 4: town and just putting the work in.

878
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: And I want I like the fact that.

879
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I ever in my whole career took

880
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: a vacation on the bath. I don't think I ever

881
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: left out doing it. I started doing it, I just

882
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: never did it.

883
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: Like I just I feel like I know me.

884
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if I get in a certain mode, it's over.

885
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: When I showed back up, I got a Sam brenro

886
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: on it like, smook, we got weeks.

887
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: No, No, you might not show back up.

888
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen. They might be looking for you.

889
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, don't you do that to yourself. So

890
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 3: I would just shield smart.

891
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: The other thing I get a lot when we're talking

892
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: schedule released is predicting games. Yeah, and I think that

893
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: is maybe, Like it's what I'm saying. It's a fun

894
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: thing to do with sockymore run, but you can't do it.

895
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: It's so early in the offseason to predict these games,

896
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: like everyone's like, who's gonna win Week six against.

897
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: We don't know who's even played. Like, you know, I

898
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: was so disgusted with us saying we was gonna be

899
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: ten and seven last week.

900
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Don't be discussed Like no, I was discussed.

901
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 4: Because that was all of us together and it was

902
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: about seven mold losses. I wanted to give us, you

903
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I'm just being real, like

904
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: because you really.

905
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Don't know, so I won't them top prove me wrong,

906
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm just talking. But we

907
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: don't know. We don't know.

908
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: We might have played the game, but every season is different,

909
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: every game is different, and do teams change and.

910
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: Fluctuate by quarters? That's what I say, because you gotta.

911
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: Go every four games it's a new team.

912
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it's just one of those things where

913
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: it don't matter to us when game at a time.

914
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: Producergation did a great job, Like think about this last

915
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: week Week one we played there as on our Cardinals yeah.

916
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Last year Josha Yeah, Josh Jobs was starting. Yeah, he

917
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: was even on the team later in the year, right,

918
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: the Giants past or not? Yeah, Giants week seven, Tyrod

919
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: Taylor a little surprised there, and then the Giants week eleven.

920
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: Who else, Tommy DeVito that was not on my big

921
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: go card. So when people say people like tell you,

922
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: tell me to be those late games in the year,

923
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't even know who's gonna be playing.

924
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: We don't know.

925
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler might be quarterbacking for the Cowboys week seventeen.

926
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: We don't know.

927
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: And a lot of these teams have a they've got

928
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: new peak players, yeah, but being probably more importantly and

929
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: probably should be A they have new coordinators. Yes, offensive

930
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: and defensive coordinators. And as we've seen over the last

931
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: probably five or six years in the NFL, those coordinators

932
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: drastically impact the effectiveness. Hey do they do?

933
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: So I think it's always good for the sake of conversation.

934
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: You know, Bob Shop, He's great, good Biba Shop.

935
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: Because if because I get caught up in the whole,

936
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: like I got friends that would call me ready to debate,

937
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 4: and they know I'm not a debater, I'm like, Bro,

938
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: I don' want it.

939
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, Bro, And they be like thinking that.

940
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm just a guy that thought too, because Tanny, you

941
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: played in the league, you know this. I still don't know.

942
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? I don't know what

943
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: do you mean? What I think about it? And it's

944
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: just funny, so I think now.

945
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: So just having this platform and us having this opportunities

946
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: to kind of chime in on some of this stuff,

947
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: it's interesting just to see our take or here our take.

948
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: But Bro, as a player, if someone would have said

949
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: that and I'm watching that show, I'm like, they get.

950
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Off the damn screen. You don't know the hell you're

951
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: talking about because you really don't know. But one is

952
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: full of optimism and one is full of because a

953
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: lot of.

954
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Times we bury it in the ground again. So that's

955
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: why when we get these predictions, everybody wants to look

956
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: on the bright side, like a cup half full, not

957
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: cup half.

958
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: I always got to kick out of the person that

959
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: told us or said that I wasn't gonna do something.

960
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?

961
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: That was what you like that?

962
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: When I heard that, I'm like, okay, bingo, Yeah, I

963
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: can turn the TV off now, I don't want to.

964
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I don't go to I don't

965
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: gotta be told anything else.

966
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: And then imagine this world podcasters. Imagine people getting on

967
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 3: TV and talking about you at your job and say,

968
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 3: you know what, Cindy, Oh my gosh, I think we're

969
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: gonna trade her to IBM. We'll trade her to IBM next.

970
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: As matter of fact, her skills are starting to deplete.

971
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: My dad. I used to tell my dad this, like,

972
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: imagine you come in, you had a bad game, not game,

973
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: tough game on Sunday Monday. You come in, they got

974
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of tight ends working out. Imagine you've got

975
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of people like that in your job, you know.

976
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: Maybe not come in and all of a sudden, take

977
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: Cody is sitting in the lobby.

978
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: Like, okay, so that's how But see, that's the thing

979
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: about it. Folks fail to realize.

980
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things about our life, you know,

981
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: and especially just me my position. I go, I get drafted,

982
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: I mean I get traded here in two thousand and five,

983
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: have the season of all seasons, one of my best seasons,

984
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: and then the next next year they bring in two

985
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: other guys that I know, Rendu l and Brandan Lloyd,

986
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: and paying the same.

987
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Money in there, like we are not the same.

988
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: What the hell? I didn't know what I mean.

989
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: So if you're if you're wired to worry about that,

990
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: you're not fit for this. I literally had to be like,

991
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: all right, come on, bring it. You know what I'm saying.

992
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: So that's every year.

993
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: That's why I never looked at the you know, our

994
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 4: draft stuff when I was playing this game.

995
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know who we drafted and what you thinking

996
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: about this guy? Who is that y'all just drafted the

997
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: first round? I see him in practice? I don't know,

998
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is me. I'm a draft guy, so

999
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: I pretty much knew everybody day we drafted.

1000
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's the schedule. If you want to see our

1001
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: kind of full thoughts, our predictions, all that kind of stuff,

1002
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: make sure you check out the schedule Elease special on

1003
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: the Commander's YouTube page. And now let's talk about something

1004
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: that I'm excited to talk about because I think it's

1005
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: important is OTAs. Let's talk about OTAs. So let's just

1006
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: talk about the off season schedule. So after two thousand

1007
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: and eleven, with the new CBA. They basically changed the

1008
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: off season structure. So there's Phase one, which is just

1009
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: like lifting weights. You can meet with your coaches, install

1010
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: and there's no field time. That's what the meetings are, right.

1011
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of laying the foundation for the end of

1012
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Phase two, which is you can lift and run, but

1013
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: now there's meeting time with the coaches and you have

1014
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: an hour limit in the building. Now. Phase three is OTAs,

1015
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: which is actual practice, own field practice, right, and practice

1016
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: from when we did OTAs has changed pretty dramatically. It

1017
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: basically used to be like a full speed practice, but

1018
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: you just had helmets on, and when I first got

1019
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: in the league, we wore past Yeah, so obviously that's

1020
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: changed completely now because now they're out there for an

1021
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: hour and fifteen minutes and they're getting good work done.

1022
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm not smirching that anyway, but it just the structure

1023
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. However, the thing I wanted

1024
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: to talk about is that's all football time. They're installing

1025
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: the offense. So do you guys remember that from your

1026
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: time here and kind of what is an install and

1027
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: how does that go?

1028
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: You know, And just to chime in a little bit, yeah,

1029
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: I was throwed off when I saw that practice, how

1030
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: different it was from practice the other day I was watching.

1031
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, we ain't gonna break up individually and do

1032
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: some of you And then it was over. I'm like, oh,

1033
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: something going on. Yeah, it's different.

1034
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: But just to get back to what you asked, I

1035
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: had to deal with a lot of different offenses. So

1036
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: this time of the year was always It played an

1037
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: integral part of my preparation for the season. Like I

1038
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: really had to dive in and say, okay, new offense,

1039
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: how are you going to take on this?

1040
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1041
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: So I was, man, this is what I used to

1042
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: enjoy coming here, to put my time in and get

1043
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: home and get to my couch to watch TV. Because

1044
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: I know when I get here it's all work. It's

1045
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: all getting used to something new. And even if I

1046
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: didn't know it, even if it was us, it wasn't new.

1047
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: I want to learn something else about the offense, you

1048
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I told you, I always

1049
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: share with you guys that I was more worried about

1050
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: myself than anybody else. But once I had me down,

1051
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna dive in to see what Logan got

1052
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 4: to do. Now I'm a dive in and see what

1053
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: CP do in the backfield or whoever it may be.

1054
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: So I pay you close attention to these times this

1055
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: time of year because I feel like you can get

1056
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: ahead of the curve by getting all that information.

1057
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: In right now.

1058
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: Listen, I played for so many different coordinators and head

1059
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: coaches that I had to be here for OTA because

1060
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: I had to learn the whole new defense year in

1061
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: and year out. And the scary thing about new coaches

1062
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: is do I fit they scheme?

1063
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: That's always your thing.

1064
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: So once I found out who my coordinators is, I

1065
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: remember marvel Lewis, we hired him, I went write, start watching.

1066
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: I want to see what was they doing in Baltimore?

1067
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 2: What were they doing here? What were they doing to see?

1068
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: Do I fit they scheme? Hell.

1069
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: The only time that I almost felt like I didn't

1070
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: is when we signed Mike Tomlin when I was in Minnesota.

1071
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: Him is our defensive coordinator, and I knew I feel

1072
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: to play a majority of Cover two, which I could

1073
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: play Cover two, but hey, I like to play man

1074
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: and man.

1075
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: I like responsibility.

1076
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: So all that off season I tried to pack on

1077
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: a couple of pounds because I know I'm now part

1078
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: of the run front. But I also said, you know what,

1079
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: let me get used to like literally get my jam

1080
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: down pack.

1081
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: Like you know what my goal was too, And I'm

1082
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: glad you brought that up. Talking about fitting a scheme

1083
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: like I had a thing. And it's crazy as I

1084
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: think about announcer more so than I did back then

1085
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 4: when I was younger or when I was playing, I

1086
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: wanted to say I had a successful season with every

1087
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: coach and like you know, you want to put them

1088
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: all together every year you want to have a successful season.

1089
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: But I looked at success in my position was don't

1090
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: get me wrong, if you had a great If you

1091
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 4: had a good year by just being productive leading your team,

1092
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: that's good. Successful me was like man thousand yards Pro Bowl,

1093
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, being a being a contender,

1094
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: you know, being a guy that could have you know

1095
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 4: been in there, you know, got to the Pro Bowl

1096
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: or you know, got into the playoffs. And I look

1097
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: at it, so the jests I had herm that was

1098
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: that was one head coach here. I had Gibbs, first

1099
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: had Zor, then I ended up having Mic and I

1100
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 4: had Jay to leave out the door. Jay was the

1101
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: only guy I really didn't play for that was my

1102
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: last year he I was J came and and I

1103
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 4: left the next year. But all those other four coaches,

1104
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 4: I was putting up numbers in every different office, and

1105
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 4: you know, you just brought something back to mine. I

1106
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 4: never looked at the offenses as I couldn't be successful

1107
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: in them. I just wanted to get into it and

1108
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 4: fire your and find my niche like, what is it

1109
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: going that I'm going.

1110
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: To be able to do well here?

1111
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: And it's crazy because the I guess I could say

1112
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: the later in my years, which I learned this in college.

1113
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: Me and Reggie used to switch positions all the time

1114
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: just to trick guys who who you know, who's going

1115
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: to be basically diving in Santana's going to be Z

1116
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: or he's going to be in the slot. I can

1117
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: play every position if they allowed me to, you know

1118
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, certain offensive schemes you here. But Mike

1119
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 4: started letting me play every position, and you know, Coach

1120
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 4: Gibbs had me everywhere.

1121
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: He didn't care. Yeah, New York had me just at Z,

1122
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1123
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: So you know that's what I always found a success

1124
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: in and like just making sure that no matter who

1125
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: offense it is, coming in here, no matter what coach,

1126
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: I want to have a great year.

1127
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, just to kind of give some

1128
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: more like those are great stories, but you give some

1129
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: more like kind of specific context. So like in phase one,

1130
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: you're probably talking about huddle, you're talking about cadence, you're

1131
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: talking about kind of offensive, high level philosophy. Phase two

1132
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: you might actually start putting in some places because you're

1133
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: on the field. You're gonna do routes on there, You're

1134
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna do kind of situational football. Probably installed two minutes,

1135
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: and then phase three you're probably on like your fourth

1136
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: and fifth install by then, right, Which makes it tough

1137
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: for the rookies to come in because they got to

1138
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: catch up with everything.

1139
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's gonna make it tough for

1140
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: them because of them divided sal I'm on sale. I'm

1141
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: like we talked about it. He's not doing one on

1142
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: ones like I used to love one on ones.

1143
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: We received those are that minichemra.

1144
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I also understand that they ain't real,

1145
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 3: Like it's so not real, Like it ain't no feel

1146
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 3: that me and town are gonna get on and it's

1147
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: just meet him in the quarterback.

1148
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: He got a hundred yards the work. It's almost impossible

1149
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: to get a lot from that.

1150
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, the more team

1151
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: stuff they do, I think, the more mental reps did

1152
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: these younger guys get. And I think then what they did,

1153
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: I think they took some of the physicality out and say,

1154
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: let's go more mental so to make sure these guys

1155
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: got a mental chance when in my day they weren't

1156
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: caring about your mental chance.

1157
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: Your mental chance was your responsibility.

1158
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: It was yeah, like and then it was way more

1159
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: physical too.

1160
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.

1161
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: So it's been fun to go watch the dueling seven

1162
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: on seven practices. That's been a lot of fun and

1163
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: it's just cool to see how they've progressed with all

1164
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: that stuff. The other thing I just wanted to talk

1165
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: about real quick is young guys, young guys with veterans.

1166
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: So the first day we were out there or not,

1167
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: rookiemitted camp, but the first ot A day, you know,

1168
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: we saw Luke and Luke McCaffrey and Terry mclaurran talk

1169
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: to each other. They're kind of in the same line, right.

1170
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Newton has talked about how excited is to work

1171
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: with Alan and Payne. You know, you see the impact

1172
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: of Bobby Wagner, like how important is it having those

1173
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: older guys kind of mentoring some of these younger you know,

1174
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: Jordan McGee. Bobby Wagner talked about that out of time,

1175
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: like these younger guys and kind of saying, this is

1176
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: how we do things, what it means to be.

1177
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think you know it all.

1178
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: It's I guess you can say to each his own too,

1179
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: because if you if you were a guy that's really

1180
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: about ball, you might not even need that conversation, just

1181
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: the way you watch the game. Like I was a

1182
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: guy that I took every and from every every piece

1183
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: of information you got for me.

1184
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: I took it. I took it, I took it in,

1185
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: I absorbed it. But I was watching you regardless.

1186
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna know what I had to do by

1187
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: the guy in front of me, or even even if

1188
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 4: even if I wasn't a guy behind anybody.

1189
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: If I did something, I was gonna make sure that

1190
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: I was studied up. I was, I was all.

1191
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: I was prepared enough to go out there and make

1192
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: sure I did it right. But when I was sitting

1193
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: on my knee watching the other groups go, I'm watching

1194
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 4: that guy who's been here longer or who's been the

1195
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: lead longer. So when I was in New York, I had,

1196
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: you know, Lavernie is he had just been there pre

1197
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: he just got there the year before.

1198
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: But he was, he was.

1199
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: He was to the point to where it's crazy. I

1200
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 4: want to shut this real quick. I remember going home

1201
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: after mini camp, my first mini camp. So he'll be

1202
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 4: around this time of the time of the year. And

1203
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: my receiver coach like, so, who looks good out of

1204
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: their receiver. Who's gonna be the best received on the team.

1205
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: I said, Remind you know, I'm the first round pick.

1206
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: I said, Man, Lavernia is cold, not even in the

1207
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: rotation like he's fourth or fifth. He's the best received

1208
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: on the team. And you know, my wide receiver coach,

1209
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: he's like what I said, Man, l C got it, Coach,

1210
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: I get hurt.

1211
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: That year, they wanted they wanted Matthew Hatchett to be

1212
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: the start and Z. They wanted Hatchet to be disease.

1213
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: They wanted you know, Wayne comes back to stay, to

1214
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: stay his position or vice versus. They want to have

1215
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: you to be the X and Wayne bet to be

1216
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: the Z and Coles kind of went in there and

1217
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: spoke up like, man, I need to get a chance

1218
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 4: to play. If you ain't gonna let me play, then

1219
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: then then trade me and they game opportunity. They ain't

1220
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: never looked back. And my receiver coach told me, say,

1221
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: you knew what you was talking about, so get back

1222
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 4: to the story. And I had to say that because

1223
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 4: Cole showed me a lot of stuff watching him LC.

1224
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: I took something from every guy who was already there.

1225
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: You know, I got here. I had David Patton, I

1226
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 4: had Thrash, you know what I mean, those guys with

1227
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 4: integral parts and me just watching them as veterans. You know,

1228
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: even though I was the guy, I remember trying to

1229
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: push everything to them, and David pat was like ten

1230
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: or no, you the guy that paid you to be

1231
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: the guy, so speak up.

1232
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, no, I ain't evenna do that. So

1233
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out

1234
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: here and do what I do in the field and

1235
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: watch me.

1236
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: I always watched those guys who was basically who had

1237
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: I guess you can say more of a tender than me,

1238
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: you know, I think.

1239
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: It's it's good to have any brain trust.

1240
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: Like they say, if you can, if you can have

1241
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: an old person's mind in a young person's body, that's

1242
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: the perfect human being. So the one thing I had,

1243
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: I had a luxury nobody else in the NFL probably

1244
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 3: ever had.

1245
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: I made it to a dB room with three yellow

1246
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: jackets in.

1247
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: It, all playing my position them before I and I

1248
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: and we talking about Op five six rushmore guy. We're

1249
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: talking about Darryl Green, the US sada's Chump Bailey. But

1250
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: I do remember, because I do. I'm a sponge. I

1251
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: watch everything, and I'm sitting there watching Darryl. One day

1252
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: he just backpaling it this lift chopping.

1253
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: There's a clip around here, and that's how you when

1254
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: we black couldn't believe it's just these these steps. And

1255
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: he was like super high hip, like standing straight up

1256
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: because he's not that talk.

1257
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: We did one on one and Prime not practicing. He's

1258
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: told her and he's seen me do it was chop.

1259
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: He said, come in, don't you ever ever try to

1260
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 3: mimic that again? I like why he's like only Daryl Green,

1261
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: Darren Green. Everything about what he doing is incorrect, Like,

1262
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: why what you mean he like, look at how he is.

1263
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: Look at him chopping steps. You don't want do that.

1264
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: Your legs too long, No, you got to mimic people.

1265
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: That's more like your body tight. Indeed, you gotta realize

1266
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: what make this guy special won't make you special.

1267
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: Learning that leadership that's great, man, that's that was great

1268
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: insight too. I mean, just think about it. How I

1269
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: can't say we immature, but we oblivious to We don't know.

1270
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: We don't know nothing but the world.

1271
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: You're trying to just say, man, okay, that's that's how

1272
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: you do it. But then you find out, like it's

1273
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: almost like when we were talking the other day. I'm

1274
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 4: not sure if we had this conversation together or with

1275
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 4: someone else I was talking to. When you're in college

1276
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: and you know they giving you all this food training table,

1277
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: you got this food. And I remember being around Andre Johnson.

1278
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: You know he's young, he two years younger than me,

1279
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: but we both receiver us. And I remember I had

1280
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: a strict die after I broke my jaw. Came to

1281
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: the point that I wasn't eating no no kind of

1282
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 4: red meant. I was trying to eat light as possible

1283
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: because I found out the weight I was at when

1284
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: I came off, the broken jaw was me, this is

1285
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: where I want to stay at. And I saw Drake

1286
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: throw down this damn two whoppers and fry and drink

1287
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting there like, damn gonna treat myself today,

1288
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 4: I felt like, And then I see this creature, this

1289
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: beast of a man. Yes, go out here at eighteen

1290
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: years old up talking about it was nothing to him.

1291
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: He went out there and ran one teams after that,

1292
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, I can't do what he does.

1293
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: We all want different, but that's just how you are

1294
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: as a you know, it's like quick to identify, you

1295
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: need to identify who you are.

1296
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, No, absolutely, And it's I think it's so important.

1297
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: Like one of the things about the last regime that

1298
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: I always had a hard time with. It's like they

1299
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: come in and they let Ryan Carrogan go. When they

1300
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: bring in Chase Young, they bring in Montes Sweat, like.

1301
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: They don't need somebody to grow up.

1302
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: You need that guy in the room. And I don't

1303
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: care if they're the best football player, but you need

1304
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: someone to kind of saynt. This is how we respect

1305
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: the coach, This is how we take notes this is

1306
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: how we you know, that that stuff that you don't

1307
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: learn from a coach.

1308
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: And that's why I wish Bobby Wagner was here two

1309
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: three years ago, because that locker room needed somebody to say,

1310
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: sit down, sit down, sit down, you've done nothing.

1311
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: They didn't.

1312
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 4: They didn't have anybody, and they was leaning on Allen,

1313
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And not to say that

1314
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: he wasn't a man fit for the job, but we

1315
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: talked about it.

1316
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: He was young, and I think it's I think so

1317
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: that's why I think like all the all of these

1318
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: like young to old relationships like Luke McCaffrey, Teramnor and

1319
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: all these guys. Austin Eckler for the running backs is

1320
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: just going to be so incredibly important. The other thing

1321
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: I've noticed when you watch OTA practice is just how

1322
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: locked in Jade Daniels is, Like he is ready to.

1323
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: Go, no bs, He's literally out there to work.

1324
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: And so one of the things that's come out about

1325
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: him is this VR training stuff, virtual reality training, so

1326
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: basically they take the oculus, which is that kind of cool,

1327
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, virtual reality.

1328
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: He's sitting in the locker room, I'm sitting in the

1329
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: living room out date with it all blind and why

1330
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: don't you do I see him throwing get out.

1331
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1332
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: So so basically that that thing is pretty cool, I

1333
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: know if you guys, but it's it's it's like totallyculus. Yeah,

1334
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: so when you look around, it kind of puts you there.

1335
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: So this German company for him when he was at

1336
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: Ye l s U, and now the commanders are using

1337
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: that same company here. They input stadiums and they were

1338
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: able to input d fences and able to input offenses.

1339
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: So he's able to kind of sit there with this

1340
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: oculus on get a rep. But it's a real rep

1341
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: because it's against a real defense. So one of the

1342
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: things you're always chasing as a football player is how

1343
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: do I So you watch film, right, but there's a

1344
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: there's a there's a disconnect, right because it's like, oh,

1345
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: I got to kind of if I'm blocking a six,

1346
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: I gotta he's right over my head. Oh but he

1347
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: plays it a little bit tighter and you don't get

1348
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: to see the spacing exactly, so you're always kind of

1349
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: projecting that he gets the exact spacing. Now, it's really

1350
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: hard because you have to input a ton of plays

1351
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: to get these reactions and get these things, but in

1352
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: terms of him being able to pick up this offense

1353
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: so quickly like a he's studying a ton on his own.

1354
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: But I think this is such a cool tool to

1355
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: put these guys in the cauld You imagine and you're like, hey, hey,

1356
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: I get the coverage rotation in my VR headset. I

1357
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: don't even need to put the film on it here.

1358
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: It is these I think they're gonna take it to

1359
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: the next line. I mean, can we always see technology

1360
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: meet sports? It always happens. Think about it, just something

1361
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: lit like a video game, like man, you know, I

1362
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: mean people didn't learn how to read a playbook from

1363
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: playing sad And again.

1364
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: My first year in college, I learned more from Madden,

1365
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: just in terms of like basic coverages. Yes, because I

1366
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is what he's talking about covering too, Yeah,

1367
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: and so I totally agree.

1368
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 3: So now imagine getting it with doubt that that they

1369
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: press on your nie. Imagine getting it rip and being like, oh,

1370
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: I didn't see that last time. Let me let me

1371
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: rewind this right, we like, So it's that visual rep

1372
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: that I think that's gonna take them to the next level.

1373
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 2: Was making the quarterbacks better today and early ready to play.

1374
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: They did a thousand reps and sell on Selvy in

1375
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: high school and college, so passing the ball is second

1376
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: nature to them. When I came out, uh as good

1377
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: as Peyton Manning was, he didn't pass about fifty times

1378
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: a game at Tennessee Like, so this reps were so

1379
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: far and in between that they had to get him

1380
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: exactly right every time.

1381
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: I think this give them time to fail before they succeed.

1382
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: So like I was at the combine and I was

1383
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: at a bar and I bumped into the sky normal dude,

1384
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: and I find out he runs like the VR program

1385
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: for LSU. Yeah, and so we started talking and we

1386
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: should see if we can get him on really good dude,

1387
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: just try to get him on here. So we'll keep

1388
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: that in the loop of guests. But anyway, he was

1389
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: saying in a week, I said, how many you know, like,

1390
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: how many more reps is he getting a week? Like

1391
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: are we talking here? He's like anywhere from two hundred

1392
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: and fifty to three hundred reps a week.

1393
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1394
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: So you think about it. In a practice, you're out

1395
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: of practice. You're getting about thirty reps, forty reps maybe

1396
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: if you're throwing the football ton and that's over the

1397
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: course of five days, you know what I mean. There

1398
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: are four days, so that's one hundred and twenty reps.

1399
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: So you're trippling. Yeah, your repping take and.

1400
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: Are you resting?

1401
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not, like you're not putting, You're not a

1402
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: deserting energy. So to me, it's like it's like cheating.

1403
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: No, No, it is.

1404
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: I think it's dope because one I never heard of

1405
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: is I heard about the little virtual.

1406
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: Reality thing, but I just didn't know to what extent.

1407
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: But I do recall.

1408
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: It's crazy you bring up MAD. I wasn't big and

1409
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: mad playing. I will play it with my kids or

1410
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: something like that. And I caught on to it one day.

1411
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: I was like, hold on, do they have the real

1412
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: coverages on here?

1413
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

1414
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 4: So I get in the game one day and like,

1415
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: I literally was running our plays just to see the coverage. Yeah,

1416
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 4: just to see the coverage from the other teams. Yes,

1417
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: And I wanted to see tannel when you're gonna be

1418
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: opening this coverage? Yeah, when you're gonna be.

1419
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: Opening and I am the door. Promise to God it works.

1420
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: I worked.

1421
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: I will literally see cover two and say oh this

1422
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 4: round here, I'm gonna be opening the scene. I would

1423
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: literally see how they played me in six and I'm like, okay,

1424
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: so we're gonna get four over here and get two

1425
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 4: on this side.

1426
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: So this guy gonna be I promise you. It elevated

1427
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: my game. It's giving you.

1428
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, why why I didn't think of this before?

1429
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: But it was just because I'm watching the game one,

1430
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: I'm watching my kids. But I'm like a courage Yeah,

1431
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: I said run back, and then you ask Madden. You

1432
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: asked Madden for a coverage and they give it to you.

1433
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, hell, now they got the same book.

1434
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1435
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: So I went on the game and started using I

1436
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: played with nothing but me and just try to find

1437
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: my way of curves taking you I raps different.

1438
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: But the reason I was doing reason why I thought

1439
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: it was so interesting because later in my later in

1440
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: my years of playing, I remember knowing everybody positioning like, hey,

1441
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 4: pr Is coming to you.

1442
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: Come on, Perre get ready and Pis come we come

1443
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: back to it up. You're like, now I knew what

1444
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: I say.

1445
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: Bro.

1446
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: I saw the rope, I saw the rotation of the coverage.

1447
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 4: I'm the dec I'm going I'm gonna slow, I'm gonna

1448
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 4: take this guy. So you're coming in on the the

1449
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 4: one opening up, open it up.

1450
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: So it was mad and I was I was getting

1451
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: those repts beforehand, you know what I'm saying.

1452
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: But to that point, imagine if they could give you

1453
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: like so for example, everyone's running all these like a

1454
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: morphous like quarters like match coverages. But imagine being able

1455
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: to see that see it now like like the real

1456
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: like in Madden, it's all spot dress right, it's all

1457
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: over for cover two, cover three quarters like traditional quartershere

1458
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: the general spot That's incredibly helpful. I found it incredibly helpful.

1459
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: But now I can see what cover four match looks like.

1460
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I see it meshes, I can see it

1461
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: mesh with these days.

1462
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: That's the difference that you not getting the man you

1463
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 4: got when you got the real rep because he going

1464
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 4: Nick level now with mixed level.

1465
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: It's just like when we played they want clocking as speed.

1466
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: I bet if they was clocking as speed, we wasn't

1467
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: blowing some of these speeds away because we was.

1468
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: We was running, dude, like we was, we was running.

1469
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm telling you now, I'm telling you, I think I

1470
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: got the like thirty nine mile out one day.

1471
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

1472
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: Maryland pulled me over, gave me a speed said, you're right,

1473
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: you got one of the cars driving. You're like, so

1474
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: are you running over field doing step? Yes?

1475
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: I was, hey, man. So we've also watched two practices.

1476
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: We've watched the first day of Rookie Minty Camp or

1477
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Rookie Rookie Minty Camp. Let me watched the first day

1478
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: o Tas. It's not a ton. I think they've had like,

1479
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: what is that five total practices? They got one today.

1480
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: Anybody obviously Jane Daniels stuck out, So let's just obviously

1481
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: he's stucking out, so we're going next to it him

1482
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: anybody else that You're like, man, this dude.

1483
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: Mike Davis somebody didn't Nobody thought about when we signed him.

1484
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 3: He was just a flake of a sign. I think

1485
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: people forget his veeran Steve. He's been around a long time.

1486
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: He started a lot about six years six years he

1487
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: started a lot of football, and I didn't know he

1488
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: was built like that.

1489
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: Dude when I saw him, I'm like.

1490
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: Dude, all the corners now Greek gods out there, you

1491
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: know Museum, the guy from Yet the State huge and

1492
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: then Benjamin Saint Juice tall, Like It's just like the

1493
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: whole body type has changed.

1494
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: I think a guy that stood that two guys stood up.

1495
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 4: I told you how much of a man crushed. I

1496
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: got on McGee, but not on just looking at him,

1497
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: but he ran. Jordan McGee ran around well and just

1498
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: to know what he has. You know, who knows when

1499
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: he's a fifth round draft and who knows what's going

1500
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: to be his future. But when you got guys in

1501
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: front of him like he do, Man, he's in a

1502
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: great position, you know what I mean. But the guy

1503
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 4: stood out too to me with Hampton seeing how big

1504
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 4: was take the position like man, he wan four five,

1505
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: but Joy came back five, you know I mean, I

1506
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 4: mean he can make it out of something.

1507
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: But bro, I just like his presence alone. And then

1508
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: he got to pick.

1509
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: I believe I got to pick in that first o

1510
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: TA practice and I was impressed with just you know,

1511
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: how he went after the ball and just moved round.

1512
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: I mean, that's one of the things that stands out

1513
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 4: more than anything because we've been watching these guys for years.

1514
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: The athletic ability of these guys this year is just

1515
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: like top cheered than what we had, you know what

1516
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean. And it's scary because now we know we're

1517
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: gonna cut some good activities. Like this's what good teams do.

1518
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: They cut good players.

1519
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, I think the thing about Hampton

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Speaker 1: to he's the guy other guy that stuck out to me.

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01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: He's so he's so like long arms, and he's tall,

1522
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: and he runs well. And you're like, man, that is

1523
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: like you drop you look up of like a dime linebacker,

1524
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Like that is the guy when you look at what

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01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: they did in Dallas, and it's like, hey, we're gonna

1526
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: be in a lot of dime with curse one guy

1527
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: like that and a guy that's not afraid to fit

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: a run. Not a guy you got you feel good

1529
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: at coverage.

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: And a guy that threads to blitz so when you

1531
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: see him, you're thinking hot route.

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. The guy with the and if this

1533
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: is another thing that people are sleeping on, they've got

1534
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: all these guys with these crazy long arms, you know,

1535
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: and that clouds throwing windows. Yeah, you know that that

1536
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: makes it harder to throw the football. He's the guy

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: that stuck out. I think Luke McCaffrey every time I

1538
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: watch that, I run around, I'm just like, you're considering

1539
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: you've only played receiver for two years, Like you are

1540
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: so polished, so competitive.

1541
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he runs with this mixture of speed and power.

1542
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, reminds me.

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: Of it all over again. I'm watching his daddy. But

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01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: do you remember one Taylor Jacob Taylor Jakers. Yeah, the

1545
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: body being the only thing about Taylor Jakers. And I

1546
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 3: don't want to I want you to finish this story.

1547
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: He was light on he was light on his toes. Yeah,

1548
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: he would light but.

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01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: That was an old head that Tennis said that lighter

1550
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: on his toe Yeah.

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01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but but when Taylor would know what I'm

1552
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: talking about, he would run with power and he would

1553
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: he would like go in the room, I mean weight

1554
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: room with Taylor Jacob and he would literally get to live.

1555
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: I love.

1556
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 4: I wish, I wish I could have had more years

1557
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: when he's a guy like he's one of those guys

1558
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: when you have young talent. Yeah, you wish you could

1559
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 4: have just like come, come come with me. You know

1560
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I wasn't at the state to doing

1561
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: that with nobody that time. This was my first year here.

1562
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: I was all about trying to establish yourself. But when

1563
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: I look back and I'm like, he was going so quick,

1564
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, we brought Brandon Lloyd Gift.

1565
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: It broke all the intangibles, Man Bailey said.

1566
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: The years I split with Champ, out of all the

1567
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: receivers we practiced with, Taylor Jacob gave us the most giving.

1568
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 3: Not Rod Gardner, not Michael Richbrook, got none of these. Dude,

1569
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: Taylor Jacobs had a mixture of route. He would disappear

1570
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: when the lights came on.

1571
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: It didn't come on. It didn't trans see that so much.

1572
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: And you know, and you know what, guys don't know.

1573
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: They don't they don't understand it.

1574
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: And everybody's like, I say, this game, you you meet

1575
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: so many different guys and they make they make it

1576
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 4: happen in a in a zillion different ways.

1577
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: Everybody just can't walk out there and make a play. Yeah,

1578
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: sometime you need help, sometime you need to pray something.

1579
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 2: It's something.

1580
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 4: And I remember him trying to dibb and dab into

1581
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 4: every way and I and I remember looking at it like, oh,

1582
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: he's trying to find that one is going to help

1583
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: him beat this guy. All the time, because he'll show up.

1584
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: That's the that's the mom I want to I want

1585
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 4: to see him.

1586
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: Again, and then you don't. Then you don't see it.

1587
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I know Jason and the guy.

1588
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 4: Honestly, bro like I used to see him, try to

1589
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: tap into different ways of finding that guy, and sometimes

1590
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 4: you just got to say this is who you are,

1591
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 4: Like whatever you did that day, do it again.

1592
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And they had to be

1593
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: the most frustrating thing for a coach to have a

1594
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 2: player that go up like this, said practice and beat

1595
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. I remember, I remember hearing the coaches ask

1596
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: questions like, wow.

1597
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: Where you at, Like why won't he show up on here,

1598
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 3: get right in the game, run that route and drop

1599
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 3: that ball?

1600
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 4: And Practice wouldn't drop it, not one hands. I mean

1601
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 4: you see small my hands, it is huge, strong, and

1602
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: you'd be like god, Taylor, like he's not missing nothing,

1603
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 4: you got it, don't don't think about it.

1604
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: And I think it's overthinking.

1605
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a hundred percent right, you know,

1606
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: Like as a you know, people ask me about what's

1607
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: it like to be an undrafted free agent or whatever,

1608
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: a low drafted guy. There's a lot of pressure you

1609
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: put on yourself, just put yourself in a bad spot.

1610
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: But in terms of other guys that have stuck out

1611
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: to me, Frankie Luvu, I mean looks like a U.

1612
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: He looks so good and it folds.

1613
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: Looks like a dude, Jeremy Chin talking about we talk

1614
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: about big, long guys like I mean, I don't know.

1615
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: I always impressed him when he was out there run around.

1616
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: He had a pick on that day against Mariota. And

1617
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: then two other guys. One is Bryson Tremaine's a guy.

1618
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: That you've been putting for. Bryson for like two years.

1619
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: He was a rookie last year, so it's impossible, but

1620
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying like he he just like he's big. He

1621
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: looks different than the other receivers. Somebody just said that

1622
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: he's big. He's been making contested catches and and he's

1623
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: good on teams. So in terms of a guy that's

1624
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: like maybe like a I'm shot to make the roster

1625
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: if he keeps playing like this, that's a guy. And

1626
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: then Colston Yankov from my guy, Dude, this is my guy,

1627
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: way better than I expect.

1628
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: I told you about him.

1629
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how you watched him though, because guess

1630
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: what he played for Little Millton University. But no, I

1631
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: looked up a lot of his past and I'm always

1632
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: intrigued when I see big guys play like four positions.

1633
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: This telling me you're so good at something that nobody

1634
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: knows where to play you at. And sometimes people don't

1635
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 4: grow into their body until they get to the league.

1636
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: Like we might have had a guy at wide receiver.

1637
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 4: It guy turns out to be a deepest man.

1638
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 3: This guy when you showed me you play the little

1639
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 3: quarterback and lit tight end and little tail back and

1640
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: like it's athlete right there.

1641
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: I want to watch him. Rogers look pretty good too.

1642
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: Our money. Yeah, I mean he looks the part.

1643
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean he's just huge.

1644
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: He's like six seven, yeah, six six, he can run, yeah,

1645
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: And it's just.

1646
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: Like, how was he ever a quarterback in what universe?

1647
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 2: But I'm a quarterback? Do y'all remember like just the

1648
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: one season he had two years ago?

1649
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: He was like, we might got something we do, you

1650
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 4: know what I mean? So I was, I was, I

1651
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 4: was pissed that we didn't have that last year. Man,

1652
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: But I'm hoping a guy like that, I mean, it's

1653
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: gonna be harder now with the tight endom and stuff.

1654
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, hey, if you can make it, man,

1655
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: he can show what he showed like I mean, I

1656
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: remember having conversations with people from the old staff saying, all,

1657
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: we think he can play receipt and I was like,

1658
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: come on. Then he had that explosive screencat and yeah

1659
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: he's running people over.

1660
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to go get my weird ast

1661
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: yank off shirt. This one weird ass yank all love it.

1662
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1663
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna rocket most definitely because I want him to

1664
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: make the team.

1665
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: So that's what we do it for the show. We

1666
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: do have one more practice that's open to the media

1667
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I'm gonna try and get out there.

1668
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: I know you guys are up to it. Yeah, try

1669
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: to get out there and watch practice, give you guys

1670
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: an update, and then we're gonna keep you posting on

1671
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: some of these other hires as they come in, and

1672
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: make sure you tune into the commands of the show

1673
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: and subscribe to this show wherever, get your podcast if

1674
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: you want to see us, we're on YouTube. Gonna see

1675
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: us looking at each other and just sit that's wear that. Yeah,

1676
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: I think that's going to do it, Fred, that's it.

1677
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Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and

1678
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: our hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect

1679
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,040
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