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Speaker 3: It's weird about Scott and Amy and Suzanne.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Scott introducing it exactly.
Speaker 3: So if you guys are wondering what the heck is happening,
Speaker 3: Tara and I had a little bit of fomo and
Speaker 3: we felt that we're gonna jump in and do our
Speaker 3: own little mini mini mini recap. Obviously you heard Susanne,
Speaker 3: Amy and Scott do their thing the other day, but
Speaker 3: we were on vacation when unfortunately they recorded. So we have
Speaker 3: a lot of thoughts and we wanted to give them
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, we're not going to go
Speaker 3: into a full recap, but we're we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about the big four storylines of this episode, which is
Speaker 3: obviously Winter, and just dive into our thoughts on those.
Speaker 3: So just to kind of give you a glimpse as
Speaker 3: to what's to come, We're gonna talk about Rory and
Speaker 3: Lane in Paris. We're gonna talk about Laura and Luke,
Speaker 3: Emily and Laura Lai and then Rory and Logan, in
Speaker 3: which I have a lot of thoughts about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, question, I had like one note for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well let's we'll save that one. I
Speaker 3: first want to talk about Rory and Lane slash Paris.
Speaker 3: Obviously those were her BFFs from the series. Was it
Speaker 3: just me that, like it was so weak, weird having
Speaker 3: Rory just run into Paris and run into Lane and
Speaker 3: just be like, hey, what's up, Oh, you're in town,
Speaker 3: and just like I don't know, I felt like they
Speaker 3: were not friends anymore yet at the end of the episode,
Speaker 3: she was like, it's okay, I'll just crash at Lane's
Speaker 3: or I'll just crash at Paris's.
Speaker 1: And it's like, the one line that threw me off
Speaker 1: was wait, do you remember Paris? Right? I'm like, all
Speaker 1: these years, how can I literally rewound it? Because I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way she just said that, like
Speaker 1: Paris was there since what episode or when she goes
Speaker 1: to Chilton all the way until the end, and how
Speaker 1: would Lane forget Paris? Okay, anyone forget Paris?
Speaker 3: And even I think it was Paris. That was telling.
Speaker 3: When Lorelai and Luke, which we'll get into it, went
Speaker 3: to her office and they were talking about how Paris
Speaker 3: said something along the lines of, oh, you know that Rory,
Speaker 3: it's hard to get hold of her touch or something
Speaker 3: like that, and it just kind of made me really sad.
Speaker 3: It just you know, you want it. You want them
Speaker 3: to be such close friends and stay close friends. And
Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, my best friend
Speaker 3: from high school we keep in touch every once in
Speaker 3: a while, but if I ran into her at a
Speaker 3: market at home, I would be screaming.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you know no, I'm the
Speaker 1: same way. I have like my three really good friends
Speaker 1: from high school and we talk like very couple months.
Speaker 1: But like you pick back up. It's not like you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I mean, like those
Speaker 1: old friends where there's it's like time doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt really disingenuous, I get or disingenuine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But I I want to talk about Lane, and I
Speaker 3: also want to talk about Paris and what your initial
Speaker 3: thoughts are. How did you feel about Lane and where
Speaker 3: she's at right now.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really surprised. I feel like her storyline. I
Speaker 1: just felt like the way the series ended, I didn't
Speaker 1: know if Laane would have like more of a career
Speaker 1: than than what she had and having her kids. So
Speaker 1: I think Lane eight years later still like the boys
Speaker 1: grew up, Like it just made sense to me. I
Speaker 1: didn't really think, but I like that the bands came back,
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was cool, and the boys like
Speaker 1: helping like around the house and setting up the equipment
Speaker 1: and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, I kind of. I mean
Speaker 3: it was to be expected, idn't YEH didn't like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's where Laane's at, That's what's going on. I did
Speaker 3: like the band getting back together. I thought that was
Speaker 3: that was cool.
Speaker 1: Did you think that she would have had a different
Speaker 1: career or had had a different life eight years later?
Speaker 3: No, this was like that was where I thought she
Speaker 3: was going to be. Yeah, Paris, I I always knew
Speaker 3: she was going to be a doctor. You know obviously
Speaker 3: from this series that tracked really well from me. But
Speaker 3: did we all did you know she would get into
Speaker 3: like fertility?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I know, but I think, like this is twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: so I feel like talking about fertility became more a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a norm and I think, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I don't really know before that
Speaker 1: how much research was done with fertility and how much
Speaker 1: you know, know what I mean, Like, I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: the progress of it. But she always seemed like someone
Speaker 1: whould be like into like the new medicine. So I
Speaker 1: wasn't that shocked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's it's perfect for her. And and
Speaker 3: even just how she was talking about fertility, being like
Speaker 3: here are the candidate, you know, like she was just
Speaker 3: so pierised. Yeah, And it was probably the one character
Speaker 3: of this first installment of the movies that was so
Speaker 3: like when I when I was watching, She'm like, ah,
Speaker 3: there she is. There, she is, like, we're good, Paris
Speaker 3: is back. You know. It's the one character character for
Speaker 3: me that made sense this this movie. I felt like
Speaker 3: everyone else was just off, Like Rory was off with
Speaker 3: the whole logan stuff. Luke and Lorelai were weird, and
Speaker 3: also like we'll get into their storyline in a little bit,
Speaker 3: Emily was wearing jeans, and we didn't even have Richard
Speaker 3: obviously he passed away, which is the saddest thing ever,
Speaker 3: Like in real life he passed away, which was, yeah,
Speaker 3: watching it now is so so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was you took you kind of took it
Speaker 1: personally those scenes, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: We'll get into that in a little bit. But but
Speaker 3: really Paris was kind of the only character for me
Speaker 3: that tracked, and.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think with Paris, like I didn't
Speaker 1: really need a history of what she did over the
Speaker 1: last years. Like I kind of like that you just
Speaker 1: were like, all right, well, this is her job, and
Speaker 1: god knows what she did in between those years. But
Speaker 1: here we are. When I feel like for Lorelei and
Speaker 1: Luke specifically, and also Rory's life, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like you're trying to fill in the gaps, do you
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? And Paris's role just like nailed it, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here she is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on to Laura, Li and Luke though,
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of too unpack there with you know,
Speaker 3: the whole storyline. The one thing I will just to
Speaker 3: start off this conversation just point out I thought that
Speaker 3: what Emily said that basically their whole relationship was on
Speaker 3: lauralized terms, and I wants in a Lorelai it's Lorelei's show.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I thought that was really impactful because there's a lot
Speaker 3: of truth behind that. It is laurel I's show. It
Speaker 3: is the world does revolve around her, and especially in
Speaker 3: that relationship. So Emily kind of confronting Laurelai with that
Speaker 3: tidbit I thought when I when she said it, I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, that is like a gebel but
Speaker 3: you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, I mean she kind of steers that ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean Emily was not wrong and what
Speaker 3: she had to say, but I did find it kind
Speaker 3: of interesting that that made Laura Lie spin into this hole.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I gotta give Luke a biological child that
Speaker 3: he that he has had since birth, which does look
Speaker 3: do I get it that she I think she was
Speaker 3: doing it more for her to say, I don't want
Speaker 3: to hold you back from doing this, so like I
Speaker 3: don't want to tell my conscious that you don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to have it on my conscious that
Speaker 3: you don't have a biological child from you know, birth
Speaker 3: because of me. I think it was more of there
Speaker 3: was a little self serving like motives behind that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that also with seeing and this
Speaker 1: is kind of a stretch, but I just thought of
Speaker 1: it with you know, Rory's out of the house, and
Speaker 1: if you think about for Emily, like she's now alone alone,
Speaker 1: do you think this was laurlized thinking of if God
Speaker 1: forbid something happens to Luke, Rory's gone, I have someone else,
Speaker 1: like kind of like empty nester. But she's probably thinking
Speaker 1: of like like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's probably a stretch, but I don't think so. I
Speaker 3: don't think so. I just to be completely honest with
Speaker 3: you and with this whole Lorlied Luke storyline, I did
Speaker 3: really feel for Luke a lot. And the reason being
Speaker 3: is Lorelai came to him with this right, which, look,
Speaker 3: I get it, like if somebody told me that I
Speaker 3: was holding my husband back from certain things, it would
Speaker 3: make me really reevaluate a lot of things that I
Speaker 3: was doing, and you know I would, I would want
Speaker 3: better for him and us. And so I understand her
Speaker 3: going to Luke and saying, hey, like, are you sure
Speaker 3: you don't want a kid? Like Luke's response back, in
Speaker 3: my opinion, should have been enough for her. He does
Speaker 3: have a biological child, April is his biological child. Granted, yes,
Speaker 3: she did not come into his life for the baby years, right,
Speaker 3: But he has a really strong connection with her now
Speaker 3: and is really fostering that relationship and is her dad, right,
Speaker 3: So like he sees that as his kid. He also
Speaker 3: sees Rory as his kid, and he said that, and
Speaker 3: he's been there for Rory for all those years. And
Speaker 3: I know it's different when you know you're actually their
Speaker 3: parent or their step parent. At the time, he wasn't that, right,
Speaker 3: he was a Louralave's friend or you know, part of
Speaker 3: the town that saw her grow up. But in he
Speaker 3: said he considers her his kid too. So it's like
Speaker 3: he's not childless. He has two children, and he's happy
Speaker 3: with that and he loves them and he's fulfilled by that. Now. Granted,
Speaker 3: like I'm sure would he have wanted a kid, of
Speaker 3: course maybe he you know, he did say that, right,
Speaker 3: But it's he's saying he's happy with what he has.
Speaker 3: And I wish she kind of listened to that instead
Speaker 3: of like trying to.
Speaker 1: Just push it on him.
Speaker 3: This whole storyline about him having a page.
Speaker 1: You did it shock you that they weren't married? But
Speaker 1: they're not married.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think that. Yeah, I literally didn't even
Speaker 3: think about that in my head they're married. They're not married.
Speaker 1: No, they're not married. I completely forgot actually yes and no.
Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've seen these, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: did you think they would be married?
Speaker 3: I don't know why, And I like, maybe this is
Speaker 3: I just totally missed it. I thought they were married,
Speaker 3: but they're not.
Speaker 1: No, they're not.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: That is hilarious. So they were just I think they've
Speaker 1: been together for eight years and yeah, basically married, but
Speaker 1: they're not legally married. But I wonder if that's also
Speaker 1: with Loralai dealing with the divorce, you know, and Luke
Speaker 1: dealing with his divorce. Like, I get it. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of times when people don't like they've been through
Speaker 1: their marriage and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, we're just happy together. Yeah, it's happy together. We
Speaker 3: don't need the paperwork. Yeah. But yeah, it was kind
Speaker 3: of you know, it was very sweet to see Luke
Speaker 3: so like, it's so happy to be where he is.
Speaker 3: He has his girl, right, he has Lauraai. He's with
Speaker 3: Laura LIAI happy about that. And he has his quote
Speaker 3: unquote two children that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has a diner. Everything's going well and
Speaker 1: he loves that town, so.
Speaker 3: He loves he is so happy where everything's looking up
Speaker 3: for Luke.
Speaker 1: I love the bit where he just kept giving people
Speaker 1: the wrong WiFi password.
Speaker 3: I know it's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Omen's like capital B like.
Speaker 3: What but but yeah, So, I mean I hated this
Speaker 3: whole kids storyline thing, and because it's it's pushing something.
Speaker 3: It's like Emily told Laura li I, like, don't stop
Speaker 3: Luke or you know, you're you stop Luke from doing
Speaker 3: all the things he's whatever. Yeah, yeah, and then she
Speaker 3: took that Obviously personally.
Speaker 1: It's kind of always been LAURAAI though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's she's very self serving in this. She wants
Speaker 3: to give wants to do this whole kid thing so
Speaker 3: she doesn't feel bad about herself for not giving him
Speaker 3: a kid. That's like literally what I took from it.
Speaker 3: I know that's like really dark of me, but it's
Speaker 3: kind of like and maybe she's just doing another goodness
Speaker 3: of her heart to make sure or that Luke doesn't
Speaker 3: have regrets. But I think a little bit of it
Speaker 3: has to do with her feeling guilty, yeah, not giving
Speaker 3: that to him, and she doesn't want to feel that
Speaker 3: guilt yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I don't like that storyline,
Speaker 1: I kind of liked that we got Paris in that.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I liked from it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it kind of balanced out for me, like I got
Speaker 1: Paris's wackiness out of it because it kind of shut
Speaker 1: down the idea pretty quickly too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Can we talk about their red silk sheets? Lorele
Speaker 3: and Luke have red silk sheets. I would have never
Speaker 3: I cannot get that picture out of my head again,
Speaker 3: like dogs pagallas sheets. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder who decided on that, Like I don't
Speaker 1: but that is like I.
Speaker 3: Feel like sad sheets. I don't know, like the red silk.
Speaker 1: That's more Laura I and Luke's more of the plaid
Speaker 1: sheet person.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just it was just weird.
Speaker 1: This is so weird. But speaking this is a little
Speaker 1: off topic, but speaking of like noticing things, did you
Speaker 1: notice when Rory goes to the grocery store, there's an
Speaker 1: entire like freezer of pizza bytes, like top to bottom,
Speaker 1: it's just it's all. It's like, there's nothing else in
Speaker 1: that freezer but pizza bytes. And then to the right
Speaker 1: is all dryers ice cream.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's my type of store.
Speaker 1: I looked over and I was like, pizza, bye pizza,
Speaker 1: and like all sizes. It was really funny. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I caught my eye.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious. You're gonna we have to screenshot that toast
Speaker 3: it funny. All right, Well, I mean, let's move on
Speaker 3: to Lorlai.
Speaker 1: What did you think of? Okay, I'm gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: what did you think of what happened at the funeral? Oh?
Speaker 1: Good lord?
Speaker 4: I mean Lorli I just like she'll never so bad.
Speaker 4: That was so bad, like so bad.
Speaker 1: And I don't think like what bugged me about it
Speaker 1: was that she took being drunk as an excuse, like
Speaker 1: you couldn't just say like like like Emily said, my
Speaker 1: dad bought me a doll and it made me happy,
Speaker 1: like just make up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it was so bad, and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can all just sit here and speculate like why
Speaker 3: didn't she just say, oh I love my dad, you know,
Speaker 3: or whatever, like why didn't she do the right thing?
Speaker 3: But I also think there is a lot and I'm
Speaker 3: not giving her an excuse at all, because was she
Speaker 3: I thought it was so bad, But I think it
Speaker 3: just Richard was the one thing that held the entire
Speaker 3: family together, like truly, he was the one thing that
Speaker 3: he was the bad black pone of the family. And
Speaker 3: I think a big reason as to why even Richard
Speaker 3: and Emily came back into Laurli's life was not only
Speaker 3: because of Rory, but also because of Richard. And I
Speaker 3: don't think without Richard, even with Rory, I don't think
Speaker 3: that Emily and Laura I would have a relationship right now.
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of it. And we all
Speaker 3: know how much Laura I loves her dad. We know that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she had a really special bond with him, so
Speaker 3: we all know that she has so much love for him.
Speaker 3: I think in that moment, all of this bubbled up,
Speaker 3: like complexity she had in her childhood and like all
Speaker 3: this trauma and you know, negative association she had of
Speaker 3: her parents just got the best of her and resurfaced
Speaker 3: during this like traumatic time in her life. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't believe she did that and
Speaker 3: it was so bad, But I also think that is
Speaker 3: a person who is hurting really badly, like reliving some
Speaker 3: trauma that she had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the line where I think it's when they're arguing
Speaker 1: in the kitchen and she's like, I just lost my
Speaker 1: husband and she's like, well, I just lost my dad.
Speaker 1: I was like, ooh, that's like I think that's when
Speaker 1: it all kind of came around of yes, Emily's hurting,
Speaker 1: but like Laura doesn't really show she's always hurting. Like
Speaker 1: she walked around the party talking to like Jason styles, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she kind of held it together, made sure
Speaker 1: that Rory was home. She told Luke She'll say, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like she tried to keep it together.
Speaker 1: And I think in that moment, that conversation when she
Speaker 1: said I lost my dad, I was like, yeah, she
Speaker 1: she just fell apart during that that during that that
Speaker 1: end of the night with the other guys and Emily.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I also do think that mine is very
Speaker 3: easy to talk about how crazy her parents are, right,
Speaker 3: and like, oh, yeah, of course they're going to manipulate
Speaker 3: you to do this. Of course they're going to manipulate
Speaker 3: you to do that. Of course they're going to pay
Speaker 3: for your tuition so that you can do Friday night dinner.
Speaker 3: Like she is the first one to point out their
Speaker 3: flaws and also the first one to point out how
Speaker 3: manipula manipulative they can be. And and you know of
Speaker 3: the Gilmore you know, holding the Gilmore name up and
Speaker 3: all the negative things that come along with it. And
Speaker 3: so but she's but she's not quick to say I
Speaker 3: love my mom because of this, I love my dad
Speaker 3: because of this. Like that that does not come naturally
Speaker 3: to her. No, So I think her first like gut
Speaker 3: instinct is to go for negative. Yeah, right, Like those
Speaker 3: are the stories she talks about often and can talk
Speaker 3: about off didn't and has no problem bringing up. That
Speaker 3: is how she talks about her parents is all the crazy.
Speaker 1: Shit that they do and looking at them.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and also like how awful they are, you know,
Speaker 3: Like that's her first thing that she can that she
Speaker 3: resorts to. So I think when she was put on
Speaker 3: the spot she's not good at like showing her emotions
Speaker 3: and like showing her love, especially for her parents, that
Speaker 3: she resorted to her humor yeah, quote unquote to deflect
Speaker 3: from her actual hurt. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I when she was bugging Emily about the portrait,
Speaker 1: I was like, just leave her alone, like it's okay
Speaker 1: if she messed up the side. It was like a
Speaker 1: great bit because that was a giant portrait, but it
Speaker 1: was like, stop, stop taking it out on her, like
Speaker 1: she's clearly going through it. But then we needed that
Speaker 1: to get the history of what happened at the funeral.
Speaker 3: I will say I did feel for the real life
Speaker 3: Lauren Kelly and Alexis during those scenes like that cannot
Speaker 3: That must have been so hard to do those scenes
Speaker 3: and know that you're cast me is no longer there,
Speaker 3: but you're and you are acknowledging that they're no longer there,
Speaker 3: but it's still not Yeah, I'm sure that was not easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean all the way down to the dinner table
Speaker 1: and no one can sit in Richard's seat, and I
Speaker 1: understand that that was always his seat, the head of
Speaker 1: the other the other end of the table.
Speaker 3: What did you think when Luke tried to sit there
Speaker 3: and then obviously realized that's the wrong seat but was
Speaker 3: just standing in.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, Like I think the kirkbit was was funny,
Speaker 1: but I was like, she literally had no.
Speaker 3: Idea who Kirk was, you know, like, but you're talking
Speaker 3: about Emily, and but she still let him sit there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just like just someone to pull up
Speaker 1: a chair and like have him.
Speaker 3: It was just that was louralize that like, Lordal, I
Speaker 3: don't know that's true. She needs to stand up and
Speaker 3: be like Kirk, get the hell out of here. My
Speaker 3: husband's not husband. My boyfriend's sitting down at the table.
Speaker 3: Or if she's gonna let him sit there, be like babe,
Speaker 3: sit here, I'll sit on your lap, like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Don't let your husband stand over there
Speaker 3: in the corner and humiliation with not having it. I
Speaker 3: keep calling him her husband and he's not her husband.
Speaker 3: Sorry guys, but her don't you know, let Luke just
Speaker 3: sit in the corner or stand in the corner and
Speaker 3: humiliation trying to eat his food. Yeah, and you just
Speaker 3: sitting down and letting it happen.
Speaker 1: Like he's already like uncomfortable as it is, like just
Speaker 1: let him get.
Speaker 3: A seat, dudem My husband would have been like peace out,
Speaker 3: I'm out of here, like oh god, Lorlai loralai, lorli lie.
Speaker 3: She really bummed me out this episode. She was quite annoying.
Speaker 1: But I know you brought up earlier. But Emma Jeans
Speaker 1: might have been with also the candies shirt.
Speaker 3: I want to hang out with Emily and Jean jeans.
Speaker 3: That's all I want to do.
Speaker 1: I just want to.
Speaker 3: Hang out with Emily and jeans so bad.
Speaker 1: I literally googled Candies. I was like, is this bran
Speaker 1: still alive? Alive? And well we all.
Speaker 3: Had that shirt? All, yeah, we all had that shirt.
Speaker 3: We all had that those jeans. I think, like, I
Speaker 3: low key and am Emily and jeans, Like I think
Speaker 3: that is who I am to my core. I mean
Speaker 3: even just like the organizing of our house and the
Speaker 3: Marie condoing.
Speaker 1: Oh did you love the marine condo stuff?
Speaker 3: Because I did that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to choose you that one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent, Like does this pen bring me joy? Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm keeping it on my desk.
Speaker 1: The way she looked at the dress and she's like,
Speaker 1: bring me joy?
Speaker 4: I say what you all will.
Speaker 3: With Emily bean Villain the show, she is my favorite character.
Speaker 1: And I didn't really mind all of the people in
Speaker 1: the home because at that point she was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to be alone, so the kids running
Speaker 1: around and the gardener and the pool man and like
Speaker 1: it was so chaotic. But I kind of liked it.
Speaker 3: I agree, I loved everything about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what about the end when she's going
Speaker 1: to therapy and oh.
Speaker 3: Okay that I thought you were gonna talk about the
Speaker 3: last storyline we were going to talk about. Oh the therapy.
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm here for it. I want to
Speaker 3: see Emily and Lorelai and therapy together.
Speaker 1: The way she roped her in though, and I know
Speaker 1: it was just like hello, like did you not realize?
Speaker 3: But honestly like good because they need it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do.
Speaker 3: If Emily's got a trick her into going to therapy,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: But the line where Emily was like, oh, like I
Speaker 1: can't remember where she messed while she's like, oh they
Speaker 1: had a therapist, there's schizophrenic, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, like goold or something like. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're totally just like the comments you
Speaker 1: make about your mom. I know, I know, backhandedly.
Speaker 3: The last big pillar of this. Okay, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: I mean, I there Obviously there's so much of that
Speaker 3: happened in this movie of the hour and a half long.
Speaker 3: We just don't want to repeat a lot of what
Speaker 3: you are, what Scott, Susanna and He already recap, So
Speaker 3: we're just going through our highlights So the last highlight
Speaker 3: of this episode and the last pillar is Rory and.
Speaker 1: Logan, which I have to ask when when Rory had
Speaker 1: that like three minute monologue just sitting on a couch talking,
Speaker 1: who did you think was in that apartment? Did you
Speaker 1: know it was Logan?
Speaker 3: I I I had a feeling it was Logan m
Speaker 3: because of the style of the apartment, like, uh sure,
Speaker 3: I was like this is very like not modern, but
Speaker 3: you know, like toity toity, like this is Dean's houses,
Speaker 3: isn't Jess's like guys elevated and like, you know, cool
Speaker 3: and sophisticated. So when I saw Logan, I was like
Speaker 3: ding ding ding. Of course, with Logan, I did not
Speaker 3: expect him to be the first boyfriend we saw though.
Speaker 1: Oh really okay, yeah I didn't.
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be Jess. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know why I thought. I thought Jess would be the
Speaker 3: first boyfriend that we saw in the movies, so.
Speaker 1: Like there was a Jess mentioned earlier at the diner,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's why too.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, prior to even seeing this episode,
Speaker 3: I thought we would see Jess first. Got it like
Speaker 3: with something with Luke, you know, like I was like,
Speaker 3: oh there. I don't know. I just thought we would
Speaker 3: get jess yirs. I didn't expect Logan to be the first,
Speaker 3: but I hated it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, this is why I think and this is
Speaker 1: my take. I'm team jess.
Speaker 2: All the way.
Speaker 3: I know why people hate Logan.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the thing is I think that the movies
Speaker 1: the revival change people's thought on Logan a little bit,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the end of the show,
Speaker 1: you were like, well, they're not together. But like, I
Speaker 1: don't hate him.
Speaker 3: I loved him. I thought he was great, but.
Speaker 1: Then going into this, You're like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I like him much.
Speaker 3: But also I hate Rory more than I hate Logan. True,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like true, she's the one
Speaker 3: that has the boyfriend one although she like the fact
Speaker 3: that you have a boyfriend that you don't remember is
Speaker 3: your boyfriend is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: An heard, and I know that Scott, Susanne and Amy
Speaker 1: talked about this, but that was hands down the worst
Speaker 1: storyline of this. Like I was like, we could have
Speaker 1: done without this, Like you really don't remember a guy
Speaker 1: who've been with for two years?
Speaker 3: Two years? Two years in two years?
Speaker 1: Poor boy?
Speaker 3: Like seriously, ill. I hated all of it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't like that she has a boyfriend. I don't
Speaker 3: like that she doesn't want to have a boyfriend and
Speaker 3: keeps saying I need a break up with Paul, doesn't
Speaker 3: break up with Paul, goes to London, right, they're in London.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she tells Laura that she's saying with someone
Speaker 1: named Dedie every time she's there.
Speaker 3: No, it's just the shady mcshaterson is so bad, like
Speaker 3: she Laura, I mean, Rory.
Speaker 1: Is just Yeah, she's lost for sure.
Speaker 3: She's lost. She doesn't keep in touch with her friends.
Speaker 3: She doesn't tell her friends that she's even going to
Speaker 3: see like in town. Like the fact that she went
Speaker 3: back to start Hollow doesn't tell Lane mm hmm. But
Speaker 3: that's her best friend is weird. And the fact that
Speaker 3: she's like cheating on this boyfriend that she doesn't even
Speaker 3: want to have with Logan And it's just like what
Speaker 3: happens in this apartment stays in this apartment. It's just like, nah,
Speaker 3: I can't with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like totally I mean I don't remember
Speaker 1: right now, like what he's doing, but he's like successful.
Speaker 1: He's bringing a tie on going to work, like he's
Speaker 1: going about his life and she's still stuck like in that.
Speaker 3: And this is eight years later, eight years later, and
Speaker 3: we are it like Rory's worse.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't. I actually would have appreciated if, like,
Speaker 1: like right after college she had this amazing career or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then she got like laid off and like then
Speaker 1: her life crumbled a little bit, because I think like
Speaker 1: that would have been a little more relatable. But it
Speaker 1: sounds like this has been her life since graduation, like
Speaker 1: nothing's changed, Like I would have I would have appreciated,
Speaker 1: like it's been six months since I haven't had a
Speaker 1: job and like I'm a little lost, And I think
Speaker 1: that would have been more relatable than well, I'm taking
Speaker 1: another interview and you know, it's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just I wish she would just the
Speaker 1: whole Paul storylines just stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's stupid, And like I would have loved it
Speaker 3: more if Rory was in London for work, single and
Speaker 3: she gave into texting Logan.
Speaker 1: Or ran into him at a at like the same
Speaker 1: restaurant that she was having.
Speaker 3: And she's just like, hey, I'm here, Do you want
Speaker 3: to grab dinner?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like a little cheeky, And.
Speaker 3: Then they haven't seen each other in eight years and
Speaker 3: they just have the best sex of their life that night,
Speaker 3: like getting drunk and going all over London having I
Speaker 3: don't know, crazy sex and YadA YadA, Like that would
Speaker 3: be way better than like this, Like I've been with.
Speaker 1: This guy for two years, You're not gonna like the
Speaker 1: rest of you have the stuff now, I will say
Speaker 1: I like walked. Looking back, I actually think that Winter
Speaker 1: might have been my least favorite of them, except for
Speaker 1: the Richard storyline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so overall, how many what is this like,
Speaker 3: your fifth time watching Winter or how many times have
Speaker 3: you seen it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I watched it twice this week, but before that it
Speaker 1: had been over a year or two since I've watched it,
Speaker 1: so I haven't watched it as much as this the series.
Speaker 3: Okay, what did you think this beween? However many times.
Speaker 1: You've watched let's say three or four? Yeah, okay, your.
Speaker 3: Fourth time watching it? How do you how do you feel?
Speaker 1: I I'm going into it with a different light, I
Speaker 1: think because we just really analyzed the whole series and
Speaker 1: I've never analyzed the series that much in my life,
Speaker 1: like usually it's my fun binge, and there were a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I wish were different. Like now,
Speaker 1: I kind of understand for those people who, like, you know,
Speaker 1: know every little moment, Like I didn't always remember moments
Speaker 1: from the show, and I think that there were moments
Speaker 1: I would have changed. But as someone who was so
Speaker 1: excited for this to come back, when I watched it,
Speaker 1: like when they dropped those four episodes, it was the
Speaker 1: most exciting thing ever. Yeah, I'm sure so, I think
Speaker 1: remembering that it was, I didn't even care what the
Speaker 1: storylines were at that point. I was like, all my
Speaker 1: there were people are back on TV together.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But I mean.
Speaker 1: I still enjoyed it. I don't think it was bad.
Speaker 1: I just think there were things that were like questions
Speaker 1: I had that had happened, questions about things that had
Speaker 1: happened over the eight years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. Overall thoughts will give our top two
Speaker 3: either thoughts or bones to pick. Okay, my first thing
Speaker 3: is I when I first started watching it and it
Speaker 3: first started rolling and it was Rory and Laura and
Speaker 3: the Gizzy bo hmm, I was like, ooh, it's a
Speaker 3: little bit rocky, like they were just rusty with their dialogue,
Speaker 3: and they were like trying to go back and forth
Speaker 3: and go fast and and and I think even Laura
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh, it's great to do that again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a second.
Speaker 3: I was just like, it's been a years. It's been
Speaker 3: eight years. Yeah, So that was number one, but it
Speaker 3: picked up, It definitely picked up. And then number two
Speaker 3: is the kind of a bone to pick if Luke
Speaker 3: has WiFi and oh my god, years later, can we
Speaker 3: please have cell phone service?
Speaker 1: And stars hollow like yeah, that her running around with
Speaker 1: the phone in the air. I was like, this is is.
Speaker 3: So annoying, so annoying.
Speaker 1: But they had cell phones at the end of the series.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously not a smartphone, but like, but.
Speaker 3: That's my point. It's been eight years, Like you got service.
Speaker 1: It's twenty sixteen, come on, you got service. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: understand Luke's, like you said, not having Wi Fi because
Speaker 1: there are places we go now and Wi Fi's password protected.
Speaker 3: But still and also Luke has WiFi, he just doesn't want,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, so it's like, which is totally fair,
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my bone to pick is probably the relationship with
Speaker 1: Lane in Paris. I just didn't like that. I just
Speaker 1: didn't like what they acted like.
Speaker 3: They were best friends, but they're not. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 3: best friends.
Speaker 1: You're like, come on, I watched all these years of
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 5: You knew.
Speaker 1: The specific line was, Hey, Lane, you remember Paris dug.
Speaker 3: Of course she remembers, I can't.
Speaker 1: That line was my bone bones pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well we rate it. Hopefully we didn't
Speaker 3: bore everyone.
Speaker 1: I hope this is a little bit different of its take.
Speaker 3: I know I haven't listened to to Scott Amy and Susan's.
Speaker 1: I listened to some of it, so they definitely agreed
Speaker 1: with the cell phone tower, I know that.
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we didn't repeat too much. But but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's rate it. What would you rate it.
Speaker 1: I'm going going to give it. My measuring stick is
Speaker 1: Kirk Ubers.
Speaker 3: Oohs, I give it.
Speaker 1: I give it a seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna give it eight out of ten.
Speaker 3: Red silk sheets.
Speaker 1: You never want to see it.
Speaker 3: I can't get over it. I can't get over it, Jackie.
Speaker 3: Did they talk about the red silk sheets?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 3: I almost called them Luke Scott Amy and Suzanne talk
Speaker 3: about it. No, Oh my goodness. Our producer Jackie said
Speaker 3: they did not.
Speaker 1: Between that and the Pizza Bies.
Speaker 3: It was one thing at the end of that, at
Speaker 3: the end of Winter, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Luke red sheets and lover Light sleep in red silk sheets,
Speaker 3: and I can't get over it.
Speaker 1: I mean, but then again, like with her house being
Speaker 1: so oh wait, one more bones to pick that scene
Speaker 1: when they were when Luke was cooking in Lorelei's kitchen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a little off to me.
Speaker 3: I like Luke and the diner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, just go to the diner side.
Speaker 1: I understand why to show that they're like more of
Speaker 1: a family, but I don't know, like Tim more the
Speaker 1: diner than Lorele's kitchen. And then they like didn't even
Speaker 1: eat the food eat made, they were eating everything else
Speaker 1: on the fridge.
Speaker 3: Do we see Jess next episode? Next movie? Is he
Speaker 3: in spring?
Speaker 1: I don't remember which one he's in.
Speaker 3: I really need Jess back.
Speaker 1: I will say, I'm not spoiling anything, but you'll be happy.
Speaker 3: Oh please, I need him back.
Speaker 1: I just I just remember I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: why I'm team Jess, Like it was very I remember.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait. I'm going to have many thoughts and
Speaker 3: ideas and opinions.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, last question, did you like that they started
Speaker 1: started with winter because my first thought was I kind
Speaker 1: of wish winter was last because of the ice snow,
Speaker 1: and I wish I started with fall.
Speaker 3: I do like that they started with winter because I
Speaker 3: wanted to end in fall. And okay, and to me,
Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls is fall. Yeah, it is the epitome of fall.
Speaker 3: So I like that they're gonna end on what what
Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls is?
Speaker 1: That's a really good thing. I was thinking start with
Speaker 1: fall because I think of fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then you're gonna have to end in one.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that I smell snow and all that,
Speaker 1: but I guess.
Speaker 3: Fall, the fall is the holidays, right, so like I'm
Speaker 3: going to end on Thanksgiving. I want to end in Christmas,
Speaker 3: like I want all that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's very fair.
Speaker 3: All right, anyways, all right, guys, well this has been fun. Tara,
Speaker 3: do you want to sign us off? Give us your
Speaker 3: best Scott impression?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I did this once and I know
Speaker 1: I don't remember how I did it. Well, Thanks Danielle,
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