WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: Cool Zone 2054: Live From DinoCon 4 in Helsinki

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Book Club book Club, book Club book Club. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Cool Zone Media book Club, the book club where you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to do the reading because I do it

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I'm Margaret Giljoy and this week and this

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<v Speaker 2>month on cool Zone Media book Club, we have missives

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<v Speaker 2>from the future. That's right, it's week two of Cool

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<v Speaker 2>Zone twenty fifty four Reports from the dinoh War. And

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<v Speaker 2>what if we have from the future, Well, let's find out.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Cool Zone twenty fifty four Reports from the

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<v Speaker 2>dinoh War. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and alongside the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the Cool Zone team, we're covering everything World

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<v Speaker 2>War three point five. Alongside some of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the team, I spent the past week in Helsinki, Finland

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<v Speaker 2>at Dino Con four and I'm excited to share with

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<v Speaker 2>you all what I've learned. But first, this podcast wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even be here if it weren't for our biggest sponsor,

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<v Speaker 2>the one the Old Dino Cadence. What started as an

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<v Speaker 2>avant garde dinosaur dance troupe soon became the world's premier

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<v Speaker 2>network of combat academies. If you're serious about dino riding,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get serious about dino cadence. Admission is free,

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<v Speaker 2>but spots are limited. So apply today to save the

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<v Speaker 2>world tomorrow. When the wheels of the ancient seven thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven hit the runway at Helsinki, Vanta, I wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only one to breathe out a sigh of relief. We'd

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<v Speaker 2>made it, we landed, we were on the ground, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>from my point of view, where we belong. You will

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<v Speaker 2>not catch me riding a pterodactyl, and not just because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm far too old for it. And look, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>worried about the plane falling apart. Ever since the cooperativization

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<v Speaker 2>of Boeing in twenty thirty seven, when workers took over

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<v Speaker 2>the beleaguered company, it's gone from producing the world's least

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<v Speaker 2>reliable airplanes back to producing some of the world's best. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was worried about getting shot out of the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I just flown in from free Poland, which meant flying

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<v Speaker 2>over three different nationalists occupied Baltic states. Every journalist is

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<v Speaker 2>a war journalist. In World War three point five, the plane,

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<v Speaker 2>like any post war retrofit, was equipped for non electric

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<v Speaker 2>flight in the case of EMP. But I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>planes hit by EMPs twice in my life already, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is never fun. Capable of not crashing is an

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<v Speaker 2>entirely different thing from comfortable flight. Our seven thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>was also equipped with its own Vishnu shield in case

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<v Speaker 2>of incoming surface to air missiles. But for the past year,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, nationalist forces in Estonia have had the habit

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<v Speaker 2>of firing dummy rockets at more or less everything flying

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere near their airspace. The whole flight, I told myself

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting too old for this shit, and I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to distract myself with work like I always do.

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<v Speaker 2>I caught up on about a week's worth of email,

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<v Speaker 2>and I figured out my dino kon itinery. Then we

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<v Speaker 2>landed and I stepped out into the unseasonably warm Helsinki

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<v Speaker 2>December air Can you even say unseasonably anymore? Does that

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<v Speaker 2>even mean anything anymore? Like It's like every morning God

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<v Speaker 2>spins a big spinny wheel with numbers from negative thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to about one hundred and thirty to determine how hot

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be. I guess that only works if

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<v Speaker 2>you're one of us weird old poor people who can't

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<v Speaker 2>internally shift to celsius negative thirty to plus fifty. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, do your own Celsius math, you metric men.

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped out into that pleasant air, and we took

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<v Speaker 2>the train into town, and I looked out the window

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<v Speaker 2>and I remembered I love Helsinki, and I love my job,

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<v Speaker 2>and flying is just part of it, and danger is

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<v Speaker 2>just part of it. And that's okay. It's funny how

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<v Speaker 2>our conscious mind works to forget danger as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>it passes. Funny how hard our unconscious mind works to

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<v Speaker 2>hold on to the memory of fear. But unless you've

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<v Speaker 2>got that sorrophobia, there's nothing to be afraid of at

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<v Speaker 2>Dinocon besides having too much fun hanging out with dinosaurs

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<v Speaker 2>and their riders. Well, I mean besides the microraptor incident

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<v Speaker 2>at Dinocon too, but that won't happen again. Probably, when

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<v Speaker 2>you first come in through the gates, after the security

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<v Speaker 2>checkpoint that I'm legally required to not tell you about

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<v Speaker 2>in detail, the first thing you see is Captain Emily

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<v Speaker 2>Hanford Junior herself and of course her faithful Trigger, that

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<v Speaker 2>is to say, the most decorated dinosaur and dinosaur rider respectively.

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<v Speaker 2>Trigger was waving and smiling, hair pulled back into that

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<v Speaker 2>don't fuck with the librarian bun that they single handedly

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<v Speaker 2>brought back into style. Their uniform was gleaming with metals

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<v Speaker 2>from the war and little one inch buttons from bands

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<v Speaker 2>they listen to. Captain Emily Hanford Junior is, of course

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<v Speaker 2>an ankliosaurus, and I've never been able to tell a

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<v Speaker 2>reptile's mood by looking at its face, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>people who claim they can are lying. But she seemed

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<v Speaker 2>happy enough and occasionally nuzzled her massive head into Trigger's

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder for scretches. I wasn't able to catch an interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Trigger that morning, but if you listened to last

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<v Speaker 2>April's episode why do we use medals at all? In

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<v Speaker 2>an internationalist army? You can hear me and mi along

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<v Speaker 2>talk to them at length. It's mostly just war stories

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<v Speaker 2>that episode, but you know they're good stories. It's controversial

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<v Speaker 2>for internationalist forces to have any sort of mascot soldiers

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but whatever a claim Trigger gets, Trigger has earned.

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<v Speaker 2>My first stop at DINOCN four was, of course the

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<v Speaker 2>Swag Table flash, a little cool Zone media badge explain

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<v Speaker 2>that don't worry, you're not Robert Evans, and no you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen Robert Evans and know you will not be

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<v Speaker 2>commenting on the news about Robert Evans, and you are

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<v Speaker 2>set up with one of the coolest swag bags ever

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<v Speaker 2>produced this year. It was a plush anchor Leosaurus backpack

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<v Speaker 2>filled the overflowing with do dads in general promo, a

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<v Speaker 2>little floaty pen with a pack of raptors chasing away

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<v Speaker 2>a cartoonish Nazi. A mug that reads I survived the

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<v Speaker 2>dinoh War so far, but death is inevitable and comes

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<v Speaker 2>for kings and commoners alike. So really, my goal isn't

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<v Speaker 2>to survive, but to live a full life and live

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<v Speaker 2>free and or kill fascist for as long as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>The type is pretty small on the mug, except that

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<v Speaker 2>dinoh War is in big red letters. There was also

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<v Speaker 2>an edible wristwatch made out of protein plastic. Look. I

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<v Speaker 2>know most people say it's safe, but I am just

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<v Speaker 2>too old to start eating plastic on purpose, plant based

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<v Speaker 2>or not. A tiny SD card full of virtual training

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<v Speaker 2>environments in the latest military games, as well as full

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<v Speaker 2>scientific documentation on more or less everything on display at

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<v Speaker 2>the con, and this year an honest to God paperback

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<v Speaker 2>book called Heliotropum and the Egg that's going to come

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<v Speaker 2>out early next year from Helm, that best selling anonymous,

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<v Speaker 2>mononymous collective. I haven't had a chance to read it yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but the back promises it's quote like nothing Helm has

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<v Speaker 2>ever produced, and that it will quote shake the internationalist

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<v Speaker 2>world to its core, and that it quote isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>person with a retro slicked back haircut gave me my

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<v Speaker 2>dino backpack, they gestured me towards the mobility aids available,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead went and got myself a Jurassic Park style

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<v Speaker 2>cane from a bin, complete with fau amber and faux mosquito,

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<v Speaker 2>and started off towards the biggest monsters. I know we're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to call them monsters, but dear listener, I

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<v Speaker 2>have been a trans woman for a long time now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think like recognizes like dinos and trans people.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a lot in common. There's a whole fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the world population trying to de extinct us both,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've got too many teeth and claws and allies

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<v Speaker 2>and uh writers, depending on what you're into for that

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent to succeed. It's no secret that the various

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<v Speaker 2>dino units compete with each other for a claim and

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<v Speaker 2>recruits alike. Terodactyl jockeys think that they're the best because

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<v Speaker 2>they are the hardest crew to get in with, and

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<v Speaker 2>they sharpshoot moving objects, well people, while themselves flying through

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<v Speaker 2>the air. The Ancliosaurus brigades are certain that they're the

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<v Speaker 2>best because they've got a real proletarian vibe and interface

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<v Speaker 2>smoothly with infantry. It's true that the Ankliosaurus brigades have

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<v Speaker 2>liberated more towns from fascist than any other because they're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who roll in like tanks to capture. The

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<v Speaker 2>rex riders have their whole cowboy vibe whether they're mounted

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<v Speaker 2>or not, with ten galled hats over their polymer helmets.

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<v Speaker 2>The mother Hens don't ride dinosaurs at all. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they heard velociraptors the size of and attitude of overly

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive roosters, and the mother hens have got style. John

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<v Speaker 2>Waters would have loved the mother Hens, every one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>copying the quote armed drag fashion of the first six

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<v Speaker 2>folks who formed the first velociraptor unit. Then there are

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<v Speaker 2>the Amazons and their ceratopsian mounts, who are some of

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<v Speaker 2>the finest and most feared units in the war. I

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<v Speaker 2>went past recruitment booth after recruitment booth and talked politely

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<v Speaker 2>to the press liaisons of each of those units. You

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<v Speaker 2>can hear those conversations themselves in the extended episodes, which

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<v Speaker 2>are of course available to paid subscribers internationalists, soldiers and veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>and anyone in the civilian volunteer Corps or your territory's

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent thereof. But more than anything else, I was there

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to the newest unit, one with a terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>claim to fame. I was there to talk to the Dreadnoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Their booth was easy to find, plain black banners hung

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<v Speaker 2>vertically like medieval flags. Each of the fighters please call

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<v Speaker 2>them fighters, not soldiers, wore heavy medieval inspired armor with

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<v Speaker 2>plain black surcoats over them. Every soldier of every unit

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<v Speaker 2>proudly bears arms, of course, but the Dreadnought fighters they

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<v Speaker 2>are dripping with weapons, pistols and grenades and rifles and

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<v Speaker 2>the occasional saber or labris. Behind their booth was a Dreadnaughtus,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the largest dinosaurs in history and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the largest dinosaurs in Helsinki. Though they ride any sauropod,

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<v Speaker 2>they use the Dreadnaughtis as their icon because its name

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<v Speaker 2>means fears nothing. In the banner over their booth. It reads,

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<v Speaker 2>joined the Dreadnoughts. We have the highest mortality rate of

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<v Speaker 2>any unit in the Internationalist Army. Their spokesperson, a very

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<v Speaker 2>short man with a bright pink afro and brighter pink

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<v Speaker 2>full plate armor, wore a large pin with their slogan,

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<v Speaker 2>live fast, kill racists, die young. That's right. Their claim

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<v Speaker 2>to fame is that they die a lot. The average

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<v Speaker 2>Dreadnought dies on their second engagement. Of the original thousand

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<v Speaker 2>fighters when the unit was formed in February of this

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<v Speaker 2>very year, only one hundred and twelve are still alive

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<v Speaker 2>in fighting. Their unit, though now boasts more than ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand fighters. I swear to you World War three point

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<v Speaker 2>five is a war unlike any other in history. I

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<v Speaker 2>talked with their spokesperson, who introduced himself as Lord Glimmerdark,

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some time. The crux of my questioning was

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<v Speaker 2>quite simply, why why advertise based on a high mortality rate?

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<v Speaker 2>Half of you listeners are probably wondering the same thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the other half of you, well, you probably know the

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<v Speaker 2>answer in your hearts. Lord Glimmerdark, Glimm to his friends,

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<v Speaker 2>answered honestly and at length, there's a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>simple answers and also a long answer. The simple answers

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<v Speaker 2>are things like, well, some people feel that the closer

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<v Speaker 2>you push towards death, the more you can feel alive,

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<v Speaker 2>or that some people just have a death wish, or

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<v Speaker 2>that every fighter in the Dinah War lived through a

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<v Speaker 2>war where a billion people died, and death is so

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<v Speaker 2>inevitable and it's better for your mental health to embrace that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have a mug for my swag bag

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<v Speaker 2>that basically makes that argument. I've built my career on

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of radical optimism strategic optimism. I can't encourage

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<v Speaker 2>any of you to join the Dreadnaughts. But oddly, talking

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<v Speaker 2>to Lord Glimmerdark, I realized these two positions are not

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<v Speaker 2>a fundamentally at odds as you might think. The Dreadnoughts

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<v Speaker 2>are not pushing despair. My position and their position are

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<v Speaker 2>what the theory heads would call in a dialectic with

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Radical optimism and fanatic nihilism, as the Dreadnought

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy is called, can work hand in hand to build

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<v Speaker 2>a better world. Glimmer Dark argues, fanatihilism is, of course

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<v Speaker 2>the long answer to my question, Lord Glimmerdark told me

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<v Speaker 2>about a text I hadn't read in a good thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>a text called We Are All Very Anxious. That piece

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<v Speaker 2>argues that every era of capitalism has had a dominant

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<v Speaker 2>affect that is utilized by capitalism to control its opposition.

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<v Speaker 2>Before the first couple of world wars, that affect was misery,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep everyone too miserable to rise up. After the wars,

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<v Speaker 2>until around the turn of the century, it was boredom.

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<v Speaker 2>The first century when that piece was written, it was anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was too anxious to do something. Then after World

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<v Speaker 2>War III, it was as thenotonihilism proposes morbid fascination. This

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<v Speaker 2>is now the dominant affect of our times. They call

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<v Speaker 2>it morbidity, though obviously that's a new way of using

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<v Speaker 2>that word. Everyone was too obsessed with death to rise up,

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<v Speaker 2>is the argument there. The problem for capitalism, glim argues,

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<v Speaker 2>is that each affect of each era can be utilized

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<v Speaker 2>as a form of resistance as well. The miserable created

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<v Speaker 2>the French Revolution, the board created the countercultures of the sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>the anxious started the fight for the future of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirties, and the morbid Lord Glimmer Dark said, are

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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to kill Nazis because they're not at all

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to die. They merely wish for their deaths. They

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<v Speaker 2>have some sense of purpose. Lord Glimmerdark doesn't think that

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<v Speaker 2>everyone should become Dreadnoughts. Not everyone is going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to dress like a medieval knight, armed with rifle and grenade,

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<v Speaker 2>and ride a titanosaur into battle. They ride the titanosaurs

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<v Speaker 2>like the big dinosaurs, is not specific dinosaurs a type

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<v Speaker 2>of dinosaur. They ride them because they pack as many

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<v Speaker 2>as five people onto each mount. No Dreadnought dies alone,

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<v Speaker 2>is another one of their slogans. Not everyone is going

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<v Speaker 2>to want to join the army of the soon to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people want to live. I know I want to live.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like armor and swords, though I'm hoping a

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<v Speaker 2>more hopeful batch of medievalists pops up soon. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Strange Larp we call this war. When I pushed back

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<v Speaker 2>against his points, Glimmer Dark's deep brown eyes gleamed. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>you could say they glimmered if I'm being honest. I

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<v Speaker 2>told him my work has always been to work to

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<v Speaker 2>accept death, but to use it to inspire a strong

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<v Speaker 2>desire to live, to fight back against death and killing

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<v Speaker 2>exactly exactly, he would scream excitedly from time to time,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I was trying desperately to disagree with the man.

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<v Speaker 2>It might all be very dialectic, but I've been at

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<v Speaker 2>this for a very long time, and I don't really,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of it all, know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dreadnought seemed to have it figured out, though, or

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<v Speaker 2>they've got something figured out. What I figured out, though,

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<v Speaker 2>After my time talking with the Dino US, I decided

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<v Speaker 2>to head over to the little out of the way

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten drone fighter corner. Everyone likes to think the war

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<v Speaker 2>on drones is over and done, but that ignores the

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<v Speaker 2>endless work put in by those unsung heroes, the engineers

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<v Speaker 2>under the big war, the Dino War. There's another war,

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<v Speaker 2>the drone war, the secret War. It's still going on.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an arms race still happening. The other side builds

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<v Speaker 2>new EMP shielding and gets some murder drone in past

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<v Speaker 2>a vish new shield So engineers on our side rush

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<v Speaker 2>to upgrade their EMPs, and then our side builds new

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<v Speaker 2>shielding and gets murder drones past their shields, and so

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<v Speaker 2>on and so on, forever without the drone fighters, the

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<v Speaker 2>people fighting against the drones, we'd be back into the

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<v Speaker 2>horrors of World War three instead of I suppose living

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<v Speaker 2>in the horrors of World War three point five. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a nice visit with the engineers of the

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<v Speaker 2>California Cooperative, many of whom traveled all the way from

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley to show off some of the products they've

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<v Speaker 2>been developing for the rank and file soldiers of the

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<v Speaker 2>Dino War this year. The latest trend is single use

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<v Speaker 2>wearables most likely to save the most lives. There's the

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<v Speaker 2>Crab with two bees. It's a belt mounted Vishnu shield

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<v Speaker 2>that automatically activates when it detects any autonomous drone within

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<v Speaker 2>its range, which is currently ten meters, but they're expecting

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<v Speaker 2>to get it out to fifty meters by next summer.

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<v Speaker 2>That difference matters, of course, With a ten meter shield

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<v Speaker 2>you need just about one for every soldier. With a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty meters shield, you could get away with one per squad.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked the spokesperson for California Cooperative why the product

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<v Speaker 2>was called the Crab, and, with usual gen bean's attitude,

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<v Speaker 2>they told me, yeah, well, I guess it sounds cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Which look, I know, I'm old and groucy, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of what you'd expect to hear from someone from

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<v Speaker 2>a generation that decided to call itself Jen Beans. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the most get off my lawn thing I'll probably say

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<v Speaker 2>all podcast I managed to always do at least one

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<v Speaker 2>get off my lawn, you dang kids, every podcast I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to. I want you to know that, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know how hard I try. Besides the Crab,

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<v Speaker 2>the new hot item is the Goosey. It's spelled like

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<v Speaker 2>goose but with two of every letter. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>bother to ask why it's called the Goosey, nor why

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<v Speaker 2>it's spelled that way. It's a wristwatch basically, and it

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<v Speaker 2>even functions as one until it detects incoming drones, at

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<v Speaker 2>which point it activates a two meters shield. Like the Crab,

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<v Speaker 2>it's single use. Also like the Crab, though, the Goosey

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<v Speaker 2>saves data about the attack, and if you return to

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<v Speaker 2>the California Cooperative, they'll extract the data to build better

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<v Speaker 2>systems in the future and return it to you recharged

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<v Speaker 2>and ready to save your life again. If you don't

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<v Speaker 2>bother to return it. It's still an analog wristwatch after

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<v Speaker 2>it's used up its single charge. They gave me one,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sweet because even though I'll never actually be

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<v Speaker 2>on the front lines at my age, the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>is that kind of everywhere is the front lines now,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's even more useful than my new edible wristwatch

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<v Speaker 2>that I will never eat. Maybe I'll give the edible

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<v Speaker 2>one to someone from jen Beans. I'm skeptical about these

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<v Speaker 2>single use personal shields. Drone fighters have struggled with the

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<v Speaker 2>same problem for ten years now. Everyone thinks that drones

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<v Speaker 2>are over nothing to be worried about. Why log around

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<v Speaker 2>a wristwatch or a belt mounted object you assume you'll

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<v Speaker 2>never use. Soldiers are famous for ditching everything they see

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<v Speaker 2>as dead weight. But still the drone fight goes on,

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<v Speaker 2>and the unsung heroes keep building new machines. It was

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<v Speaker 2>mid afternoon by that point, and the day was coming

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<v Speaker 2>to a close for me. I was grateful for my

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<v Speaker 2>John Hammond Kane, but one I'd prefer to pretend I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need, but I quite obviously do. I'd say the

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<v Speaker 2>sun was setting if I'd been anywhere further south than

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Helsinki. The sun had gone down hours prior.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point.

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<v Speaker 2>I went outside, passed the protests and got into a

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<v Speaker 2>pedicab to take me back to my hotel where I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this, and now I'm recording it because the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>minds never stop. And now I'll pass it over to

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<v Speaker 2>my comrade, coworker and friend, Jamie loft as Per for

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<v Speaker 2>what she saw and did today. And before you write

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<v Speaker 2>cool Zone Media complaining about the airhorn noises, please take

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<v Speaker 2>note that Jamie formally changed her name to include the

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<v Speaker 2>airhorn noises or the party popper emoji when written ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago now, and you can stop writing us to

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<v Speaker 2>complain about it, take it up with her, or just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, accept it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know what the rest of you were

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<v Speaker 3>doing inside the convention, because there was clearly plenty going

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<v Speaker 3>on just outside the gates. And I don't mean the

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<v Speaker 3>street vendors, though their food was better than the food

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<v Speaker 3>court anyway, I mean the protest organized Dino d Denizen's

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<v Speaker 3>interested in not oppressing dinosaurs. And if you think they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know, there's a little wink in a nudge going

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<v Speaker 3>on every time someone hears the name Dino D, well,

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<v Speaker 3>then you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know modern activists too well.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, the name is a little problematic considering the

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<v Speaker 3>allegations of impropriety currently levied against Dino D's discredited director,

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<v Speaker 3>David dorson Jen Bean's love of alliteration is just too

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<v Speaker 3>cashy and I'm not sorry, But the thing is, David

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't there. About forty protesters have been camped outside dinocon

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<v Speaker 3>for the past two weeks, passing out leaflets and holding signs,

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<v Speaker 3>and continuing the anemic chanting that has plagued certain social

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<v Speaker 3>movements since basically forever. I wanted to like the signs,

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<v Speaker 3>but they weren't much better than the chanting.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides the ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 1>Friends don't take friends to die in war. There was

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<v Speaker 1>Dino War equals Dino's No More and Free the Dinos.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there was one gal, maybe forty years old,

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<v Speaker 1>with one of those beanies with a tail that went

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<v Speaker 1>down to her knees, you know the kind I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>whose sign read I think dinosaurs are cute, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like when they get shot, and so they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be in war. I spent most of the morning talking

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<v Speaker 1>with the activists, most of whom expressed a disinterest in

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<v Speaker 1>being conflated with Dino D. Despite admitting Dino D called

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<v Speaker 1>for the protest, kind of like how vegans didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be associated with peta back when.

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<v Speaker 3>I was young and the world was new. The protesters

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<v Speaker 3>outside Dinocon have a pretty diverse range of opinions, from

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<v Speaker 3>the dinosaurs are our friend's angle to the new fangled

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<v Speaker 3>nihilist philosophical critique that using dinosaurs as the modern mascot

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<v Speaker 3>of war undermines our strategic efficacy. I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 3>if that's true or not. A woman who only gave

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<v Speaker 3>her name as Bethbert told me that, well, let's see,

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<v Speaker 3>she wouldn't let me record her voice, but she did

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<v Speaker 3>let me write a down word for word, so she

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<v Speaker 3>told me quote. The moral crux of the internationalist cause

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<v Speaker 3>is that you cannot make a better or even more

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<v Speaker 3>stable world by resorting to evil.

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<v Speaker 1>In the process.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot resort to the evils of nationalism. You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>resort to the evils resurrecting dead tissue or synthesizing human

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<v Speaker 3>and animal. Then why should we bring animals back from

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<v Speaker 3>extinction just to use them on the field of battle.

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<v Speaker 3>These are living creatures with complex emotions and complex social structures,

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<v Speaker 3>and we use them as living tanks. We use them

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<v Speaker 3>as bullet sponges. It's not right unquote. There were only

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<v Speaker 3>two conflicts I saw the whole morning. First, a man,

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<v Speaker 3>I kid you not, he was wearing a fedora, came

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<v Speaker 3>over holding a re extinctionist sign that read let the

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<v Speaker 3>dead Stay dead. Dinos are fuel not friends with that

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<v Speaker 3>little re extinctionist logo at the bottom, the one with

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<v Speaker 3>the upside down stegosaurus. He tried to join the crowd

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<v Speaker 3>and was roundly kicked out. Then less than twenty minutes later,

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<v Speaker 3>a unit of new Amazons came out of the convention,

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<v Speaker 3>easily distinguishable by having only one breast each, some with

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<v Speaker 3>breast removed, some with breast added. Depending. There's a video

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<v Speaker 3>you can watch if you'd like. But the whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>just makes me sad. Two women at the front started

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<v Speaker 3>shouting the names of their centrosauruses that had fallen in battle,

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<v Speaker 3>whom they mourned, and whose contributions to the internationalist cause

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<v Speaker 3>they thought were being erased by the protesters. And while

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the subject of the food court, was I

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<v Speaker 3>on the subject of the food court. If I were

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<v Speaker 3>on the subject of the food court, I would tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that the Helsinki Street fair is rockin' and by

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<v Speaker 3>that I mean the Somali finish food. For anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know, and how could you not. Somali immigrants make

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<v Speaker 3>up the largest African group in Finland and have been

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<v Speaker 3>embedded into finish culture for generations, and that means you

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<v Speaker 3>can get Sam Bossa's pretty much everywhere, and that includes

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<v Speaker 3>right outside of Dinocon. It could Happen here as a

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