1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. Should 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: companies that use animals as mascots help pay for the 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: conservation of those species? If you're film writer Christopher Neilius, 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Neilius, an Australian director known mostly 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: for a two thousand twenty film called Girls Can't Serve, 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: says he was watching TV recently when a phone company 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: advertisement appeared on the screen. The ad featured a realistic 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: animated family of elephants that exuded feelings of warmth and homeliness. 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: This didn't sit right with Nelius, According to an environmental 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: media outlet called Incia, given that wild populations of elephants 14 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: are dwindling, it seemed distasteful to use their images for profit, 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: and to do so without any benefits to the elephants. 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt gets money whenever his image is used, and 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Lebron James became a billionaire largely based on selling his 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: image to advertisers. It seems like elephants polar Bears and 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: other famous mascots are getting jipped. So Nealyus' production company 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: joined several other companies and the United Nations in launching 21 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: a new initiative called the Lions Share Fund. I'll let 22 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: the dulcet tones of Sir David Attenborough explain more. Backed 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: by the United Nations Development Program and foundation partner Mars Incorporated, 24 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: the Lion Share encourages brands and organizations using images of 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: animals in their marketing to donate not point five percent 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: of the media spend to the Lion's Share Trust, meaning 27 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: every time an animal is featured in an ad that 28 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and will make a contribution. The money that companies donate 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: will be distributed across the world to save species from extinction, 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: preserve habitat, and quote lookout for animal welfare. Attenborough explains 31 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: that if the top ten advertisers in the world sign up, 32 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: it would provide an annual donation of forty seven million dollars. 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: The Lions Share hopes to raise one million per year, 34 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: though they're reportedly quite a ways from that goal. There 35 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: is some evidence that plastering images of endangered species on 36 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: televisions and billboards obscures the conservation status of those species. 37 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: A two thousand eighteen study from the Swedish University found 38 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: that only about half of adults, children, and university students 39 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: could identify lions, tigers, elephants, giraffes, and several other threatened 40 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: animals as endangered. Which, if you're thinking, what I'm thinking, 41 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: is a great opportunity to update that old children's toy. 42 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: You remember the circular thing where you pull the string 43 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: and there's an arrow in the middle, and it spins 44 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: around and points to one of the animals on the circle, 45 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: and a voice is like, but you know, in this 46 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: version it would be the Asian elephant says there's only 47 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: fifty two thousand of us left on the planet due 48 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: largely to loss of habitat the International Union for the 49 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Conservation of Nature with us has endangered anyway, you get 50 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the idea right. It's fun and informative, so if you're 51 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: used to seeing polar bears on television, it might make 52 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: you think the population is doing better than it is. 53 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: At the same time, I wonder how many fewer people 54 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: would care about polar bears if they didn't see that 55 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: fuzzy family selling Coca Cola products every Christmas. So what 56 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: do you think. Should Kelloggs donate to Tiger Conservation every 57 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: time it prints box of frosted flakes? Should Twitter send 58 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: money to conserve Mountain bluebird habitat, or Disney donate to 59 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the Humane Society to stop experiments on mice, or you 60 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: know whatever the heck goofy is. This week, We've got 61 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: recaps and updates, Snort Report, Colorado Wolves, New Jersey Bears, 62 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm gonna tell you 63 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: about my week, and before that, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. 64 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: As the old saying goes, if you don't have to 65 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: celebrate Christmas, I hope you celebrate something, even if it's 66 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: just an excuse to be around friends and eat good food, 67 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: food that you gathered from a productive hunting season. Episodes 68 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: weeks have been reviewed. Thank you for being here, listening 69 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: in and calling your elected officials. I wish you the 70 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: very best. I just returned from Kansas. If you recall, 71 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: my last trip to Kansas was a real bummer, almost 72 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: hit eighty degrees this same week last year, the waterfowl 73 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: laid out a touch all week, rafted up in the 74 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: middle of large reservoirs, barely flying. It was a tough 75 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: trip this year. I was not super excited to be 76 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: going back to Kansas, but I was hoping for redemption, 77 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: if not redemption, at least a few more birds for 78 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: old snortics to retrieve. But this year, which you'll be 79 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: able to see in a future YouTube episode, was well, 80 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: pretty darned daunting. To fill you in on a little background, 81 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: we had previously obtained filming permission from the State of 82 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Kansas to document the hunt days on state wildlife areas, 83 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: but that permission was rescinded just prior to the hunt, 84 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: leaving us only Corps of Engineer ground on a handful 85 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: of reservoirs. Very low water year in Kansas, so the 86 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: reservoirs were really low, meaning that there was no water 87 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: in areas that had been marcias, and Marcy areas contained 88 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: the food for dabbling ducks, so the birds that were 89 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: using these lakes were just resting and not all that 90 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: interested in being near the shores. We're, you know, sitting 91 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: in ducky looking areas. We were in what I would 92 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: consider to be a highly populated area of eastern Kansas, 93 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: and we did not have permission to film anywhere else, 94 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: so we were stuck On top of this, we could 95 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: hardly locate any birds other than seagulls at all. Snort 96 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: was not pleased after our first day of hunting, in 97 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: which we bagged only two mallards, But on that day 98 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: we noticed something medium to large. Groups of mallards starting 99 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: about mid day, would just drop out of the sky 100 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: and fly the center of the big lake, basically untouchable birds, 101 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: far out of sight of our very ducky looking spread 102 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: located in a really cool little offshoot finger of the lake, 103 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: which was full of old tree stumps littered with moss 104 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: covered jigheads and crank baits. After an other evening of 105 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: scouting burning gas that turned up no birds, even worse, 106 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: no bird hunters on any of the half dozen locations 107 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: we checked, we decided to try and persuade the seemingly 108 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: unpersuadable high flyers on the same lake. They were the 109 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: only game in town, after all. In order to do this, 110 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: we got up real early so we could build a 111 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: blind way out on this wind blasted exposed point where 112 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: no duck would want to sit. The strategy was to 113 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: make our decoy spread look as large and flashy as 114 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: possible and see if we could turn a few beaks 115 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: in our direction. Well, long story short. After sticking the 116 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: boat in an ice covered mud flat, then getting the 117 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: boat out by pushing it through the mud for about 118 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: forty minutes, we ran out of gas barely had enough 119 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: from the spare tank to get us to where we 120 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: wanted to go. We got set up late in the morning. 121 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Then we screamed and wailed on our duck calls. An 122 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: old Snort started picking up some belly up birds. I 123 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: made Snort a spot high behind the blind where she 124 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: could see everything. She never broke, meaning she only picked 125 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: up birds after I gave her the command to do so. 126 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: That dog has an amazing memory for where birds land. 127 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: It was very efficient. It was awesome. However, she did 128 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: not bring me a single bird. She just trucked right 129 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: past me back up to her place, dropped them in 130 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: a tidy pile, then waited for the next command. So, 131 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: as per usual, we got some work to do. The 132 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: rest of this story you'll see on the meat eat 133 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: or YouTube channel at some point in the future, but 134 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. We were there a total of 135 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: six days. We scouted our spots every one of those days. 136 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: If we hunted in the morning, we scouted in the evening. 137 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: We ended up hunting three days in a row. The 138 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: first day, my hunting partner, Tyler, who happens to work 139 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: for Weatherby, came home with two mallards me no birds. 140 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: This second day eight mallards four birds apiece. The third 141 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: day eight mallards, five for Tyler, three for me, plus 142 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: two geese for me and one goose for him. I'll 143 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: tell you we had opportunities two out of the three 144 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: days to limit on mallards. We got blasted by the 145 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: wind on that nasty point. We called so much we 146 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: blew ourselves horse putting as much air into the cause 147 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: as possible, being more obnoxious than I would have previously 148 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: considered possible, especially on a late season hunt a lot 149 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: further south in the flyaway than my home state, Meaning 150 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: these birds have been shot at plenty, and until that 151 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: ad hoc plan started to work on that second hunt day, 152 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I would have killed to be able to get out 153 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: of there at least a couple hours in a different direction. 154 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: But we stayed. We grinded it out, We tried new 155 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: things and figured it out, and as a result, Snorticus 156 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: retrieved a lot more birds than she did the year 157 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: before in Kansas. Here's the last takeaway for you. Never 158 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: heard another shotgun other than our own the entire time. 159 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: For good reason, right, We never saw birds flying, found 160 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: very few birds on the water that we hunted or 161 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: any other water. It was a dismal situation. But as 162 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: it turns out, there were birds there during the entire 163 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: six days. We only saw one other group of hunters 164 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: that entire time. It's crazy, and that, my listening friends, 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: is my Christmas wish to all of you big fat 166 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: mallards on your home waters and to have them all 167 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: to yourselves. Of course, as loyal as Snore it is, 168 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: she really doesn't care who does the shooting. She just 169 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: wants the retreats. We'll see if we can get that 170 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: bird in hand on the next one. Moving on to 171 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: the updates desk, you may remember back an episode when 172 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I told you about a proposed hydro electric plant in 173 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Colorado's Uni Weep Canyon. This plant would have destroyed the 174 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: canyon's unique geological structure, not to mentioned displaced residents from 175 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: their homes and disrupted local wildlife. Xcel Energy, the company 176 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: that proposed the project, has decided to abandon its plans 177 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: citing multiple concerns over in Wyoming our corner crossing case 178 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: that we've been keeping an eye on and deservedly so. 179 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: As an interesting update, back Country Hunters and Anglers filed 180 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: an amicus brief claiming that the U. S. Supreme Court 181 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: has already established that corner crossing from one piece of 182 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: public land to another is legal. First, an amicus brief 183 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: is not part of the case proper. The official Latin 184 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: name is amicus curia, which means friend of the Court. Basically, 185 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: it's a document a group or an individual submits that 186 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: is supposed to help the court and make a more 187 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: informed decision. It offers expertise or insight that is a 188 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: bearing on the case, but it isn't submitted by one 189 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: of the parties directly involved. Back Country Hunters and Anglers 190 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: argue that no less than two decisions by the U. S. 191 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court interpreted the Unlawful Enclosures Act in a way 192 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: that allows corner crossing. In one case, the court sided 193 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: with the public against an irrigation developer who built a 194 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: fence that blocked access to about twenty acres of public land. 195 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: In another, the court ruled that fences put up inches 196 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: inside private land that blocked public land, and that checkerboard 197 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: fashion was also unlawful. Back Country hunters and anglers argue 198 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that if the highest court in the land interpreted the 199 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Enclosures Act in favor of the public, the judge in 200 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: this most recent case should as well. Whether he will 201 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: or not is unclear, but v. H. S. Amicust Brief 202 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: presents a pretty dang good argument in favor of the 203 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: public land hunters in the case. Also, by way of update, 204 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to address a concern a listener had about 205 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the Illinois water Access bill we covered in episode. This 206 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: bill is being supported by public land advocacy groups because 207 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: it would redefine the legal term quote navigable to allow 208 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: public access on smaller rivers and streams that are currently 209 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: off limits in the state of Illinois. This listener wrote 210 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: in too voice concerns I hear from landowners all the time. 211 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: This individual is a hunter, angler and conservationist, but his 212 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: family owns land in Illinois that has a river running 213 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: through it. His family has allowed people to float down 214 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: the river even though they could have blocked it off, 215 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and they've been happy to do so. But in the 216 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: last five to ten years he says traffic has increased fourfold, 217 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: and they've had to deal with people hunting without permission, 218 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: building campfires, cutting down trees, and damaging crops. I totally 219 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: understand why he's hesitant about a bill that will increase 220 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: traffic even more, and it highlights why it's so important 221 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: to respect landowners and their property. The vast majority of 222 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: landowners don't mind hunters and anglers passing through, whether on 223 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: a river or for a service road, if they never 224 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: had a bad experience with vandals and poachers. How much 225 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: easier would it be to get these access bills passed? 226 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: A lot easier, more than likely. But since some folks 227 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: don't know how to act, whether by ignorance or malice 228 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: or laziness, it could be extremely difficult to get this 229 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: Illinois bill across the finish line, which is a long 230 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: winded way of saying, you can do a lot by 231 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: not trespassing on private property. You can do a lot 232 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: for access by picking up trash, especially when it's not yours. 233 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: You're not doing yourselves or the hunting community any favors. 234 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: If you don't, you're just making it less likely that 235 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: we'll be able to turn to landowners when we want 236 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: to expand access in the future. Moving on to the 237 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Colorado Wolf Desk, Colorado Parks and Wildlife made a huge 238 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: splash this month when they unveiled their long waited wolf 239 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: management plan. They've been working on this reintroduction plan since 240 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: Colorado voters in two thousand twenty approved Proposition one. This 241 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: proposition directed Parks and Wildlife to develop a plan to quote, 242 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: recover and maintain a viable, self sustaining wolf population in Colorado. 243 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: It took them nearly two years, but the two page 244 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: report is now open to public scrutiny, and let me 245 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: tell you there's plenty of scrutiny to go around. If 246 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: you live in Colorado, i'd encourage you to read as 247 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: much of the report as you can. There will be 248 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: lots of opportunities to cent your thoughts to Colorado Parks 249 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: and Wildlife, and those comments will be more impactful if 250 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: you've actually read the thing you're talking about. Imagine that. 251 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: But if you don't have time to read the report, 252 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: which again is the length of a good sized novel, 253 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: here's a couple of highlights. The plan right now is 254 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: to release thirty to fifty wolves over the next three 255 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: to five years. Ideally, these wolves will come from Wyoming, Montana, 256 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: and Idaho, but the agency is also open to wolves 257 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: from Washington and Oregon. All wolves will be released at 258 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: least sixty miles from the state border to reduce the 259 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: possibility that these wolves will move off into Utah, Wyoming, 260 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: or New Mexico, because you know, the worst thing is 261 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: if wild animals failed to respect our imaginary state boundaries. Anyway. 262 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Along with that sixty mile limitation, state statute also requires 263 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: that wolves be released only west of the Continental Divide. 264 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: If you're fuzzy on your square state geography. The Continental 265 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Divide runs north to south and cuts off the western 266 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: one third of the state. So, contrary to what the 267 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: folks in Denver were no doubt hoping when they voted 268 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: for this, most of the state is unlikely to see 269 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: wolves wandering around anytime soon. If next year's release goes through, 270 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: it will likely be in the northwestern part of Colorado, 271 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: along the Interstate seventy corridor between Vale and Glenwood Springs. Ultimately, 272 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: the goal is to have one fifty wolves for two 273 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: successive years, or two hundred wolves for any length of time. 274 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: At that point, wolves will be delisted from the state's 275 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: list of endangered species, and the state will consider reclassifying 276 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: them as a game species. The report dedicates two chapters 277 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: and about ten pages to mitigating conflict between wolves and livestock, undulates, pets, 278 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: and humans. This is one of the biggest concerns Colorado's had, 279 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: and the report goes into some detail outlining what will 280 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: and what will not be allowed in certain types of situations. 281 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: As a general rule, non lethal control and mitigation strategies 282 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: are encouraged, while lethal controls are to be used only 283 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: as a means of last resort. The agency considers lethal 284 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: control as an important tool and it's tool belt, but 285 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: it's not meant to be a long term solution. For example, 286 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: while livestock owners will be allowed to apply for a 287 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: permit to kill a wolf, they may only do so 288 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: if they observe a wolf in the act of quote, biting, wounding, grasping, 289 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: or killing livestock are working dogs. They must report the 290 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: kill within twenty four hours, and they must present a 291 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: preponderance of evidence that the kill was justified. If they 292 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: do lose livestock to wolves, the state will offer compensation 293 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: of one of the fair market value of the livestock 294 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: hunters are worried how placing wolves on the landscape will 295 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: affect deer and elk numbers. The report acknowledges that hunting 296 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: is an important economic driver in rural communities and acknowledges 297 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: that their task is to balance maintaining hunting opportunities with 298 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: a viable wolf population. They admit that there is a 299 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: potential for wolves to reduce elk numbers in a particular area, 300 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, because wolves don't eat plants. But they argue, 301 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: as I've said before on this show, that it's really 302 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: hard to tease out the effect of wolves from other 303 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: factors like weather and habitat. If unngulate populations are below 304 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: objectives in a particular region, the report says that lethal 305 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: control may be allowed. However, these controls will not be 306 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: allowed until phase three of the plan, when there are 307 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: at least one fifth wolves in the state for two 308 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: successive years. They will also require empirical data that supports 309 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: the conclusion that wolves are quote a principle cause and 310 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: affected ungulate populations. Given how hard finding this data can be, 311 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: it's unclear how this bar will ever be met. And remember, 312 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: according to the International Wolf Center, wolves require at least 313 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: three point seven pounds of meat per day for minimum maintenance, 314 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: reproducing and growing wolves may need two to three times 315 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: this much. Wolves don't eat every day in the wild, 316 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: so you know, you got to average that out. They 317 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: can consume. This is an estimate about ten pounds of 318 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: meat per day when they're in the gorgon on meat phase. 319 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: Safe to say, again, they're not a threat to Colorado's grass. 320 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: In fact, there's probably gonna be more of a now 321 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: here's something that hits close to home. If a wolf 322 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: is attacking a pet or hunting dog, which apparently does 323 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: not get covered under working dog, which is absolutely bizarre. 324 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: Lethal control will not be allowed in any phase of 325 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: the plan. At this point, you might be wondering, Okay, 326 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: what about the current wolf population in Colorado. The report 327 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: list ten documented sightings of wolves in the state, including 328 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: to last year. One of those sightings included a male 329 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: and a female with six puppies, which indicates that these 330 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: aren't just roving mails searching for a mate. This year, 331 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: local Colorado media reported that wolves are suspected in multiple 332 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: livestock killings, and wildlife officers confirmed that the evidence indicates 333 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: as much these killings occurred in the northwestern portion of 334 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: the state, only about sixty miles as the curl flies 335 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: from where the first wolves will be reintroduced. In other words, 336 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Colorado already has wolves. If it doesn't have quite as 337 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: many as voters want, it will soon. But the state 338 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: is moving forward with its reintroduction plan thanks to something 339 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: we talk about on the show all the time, ballot 340 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: box biology, same stuff that got um, you know, mushrooms 341 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: and weed legal in Colorado. Colorado voters wanted wolves in 342 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: their state, which I think is totally fine, But they've 343 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: voted for a proposition that took the decision out of 344 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: the hands of biologists and forced them to spend money 345 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: and time on a project that's already happening naturally. Naturally, 346 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of a funny word when you think about it, 347 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of sounds like nature, Like, you know, nature put 348 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: wolves in the state, But what does nature know. We'll 349 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: do it ourselves, and we'll do it on our own timeline. 350 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Of course, no amount of wolves is enough for our 351 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: friends that the Humane Society. They released a statement slamming 352 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Colorado's wolf plan as falling short of its statutory mandate. 353 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Instead of aiming for a one hundred and fifty to 354 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: two hundred wolves. They want to see seven hundred and 355 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: fifty wolves spread across a larger portion of the state. 356 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: Don't worry, Humane Society, You'll see it. Just wait if 357 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you'd like to weigh in, the process is easy. The 358 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: stage has released an online form where residents can submit comments, 359 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: and you can find that form through the Google Machine 360 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: or will make it easier for you at the meat 361 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: eater dot com forward slash cal. In addition, Colorado Parks 362 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: and Wildlife will be holding in person comments sessions in 363 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: five cities throughout the state from January nine to February. 364 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: Online comments will be accepted through February two thousand twenty three. 365 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: Moving on to the crime desk, a poaching ring known 366 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: as the e Bike Crew was arrested and charged with 367 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: multiple wildlife crimes. According to local news outlets, six people 368 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: are in custody and another is on the lamb for 369 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: what officials say was a coordinated operation that involved fake 370 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: hunting licenses, dead bears, and a local grocery store. The 371 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: group first caught the attention of law enforcement when a 372 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: game warden stopped them in the Los Padres National Forest. 373 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: They were all writing e bikes, which have become popular 374 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: among hunters because they're silent and are a relatively inexpensive 375 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: replacement for a conventional motorcycle. One of the men identified 376 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: themselves as the E Bite Crew from Oxnard, and with that, 377 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: another legendary crime syndicate was born. You know it goes 378 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: the Italian Mafia, the Mexican drug cartels, and the e 379 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: Bike Crew from Oxnard. I'd say that's a fair top 380 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: three anyway. Game Wardens received multiple complaints about the group 381 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: over the next year or so. They were allegedly seen 382 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: killing animals and wildlife sanctuaries and restricted areas such as 383 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: oil fields, some of which was confirmed was surveillance footage. 384 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: One thing led to another, and Wardens eventually worked out 385 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: that these so called hunters had been working with a 386 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: grocery store called Lazette's Market to reprint hunting tags. The 387 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: guy who ran the market was reprinting licenses to allow 388 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: the E Bite Crew to hunt more animals than was 389 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: legally allowed. During the time that the alleged crimes took place, 390 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: No license dealer in the entire state of California had 391 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: more reprinted tickets than Lazette's Market. In total, sixty four 392 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: tags were found to have been reprinted and more than 393 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: one twenty tags were never reported. When officials searched the 394 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: homes of the E Bite crew, they recovered dozens of 395 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: trophy antlers and animal skulls that were believed to have 396 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: been harvested illegally. They also found freezers full of meat, 397 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: and several members of the crew admitted to exchanging and 398 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: bartering animal parts. In their public statement, fish and Wildlife 399 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: officials said, quote, the execution of this scheme has resulted 400 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: in a significant lost to wildlife resources within the county, 401 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: the deprivation of lawful hunting opportunity for law abiding citizens, 402 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: and the illegal commercialization of native wildlife for personal gain 403 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: or profit. The men have been hit with twenty one charges, 404 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: including forgery, conspiracy, receiving of stolen property, animal cruelty, and 405 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: possession of an untagged bear. Their bail has been set 406 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: for two hundred thousand dollars, and one of the men, 407 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: wal Frey Lopez I Lopez, has not yet been located. 408 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: If you know anything about his whereabouts, get in touch 409 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: with the Ventura County District Attorney's office. Moving on to 410 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, well in today's episode with a call to action. 411 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: The New Jersey black bear hunt received national attention earlier 412 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: this month after Governor Phil Murphy went back on his 413 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: campaign promise and reinstated the black bear hunt after being 414 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: briefly delayed by a lawsuit from animal rights groups. The 415 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: hunt was extended by an additional four days after hunters 416 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: failed to meet the state's harvest goals. This isn't surprising 417 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: considering the fact that the hunt was announced with only 418 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: two weeks notice after not taking place for the last 419 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: two years. The hunt is likely over by the time 420 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: you're hearing this, but the fight over bear hunting in 421 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey is anything but. The state is open to 422 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: survey on its bear management policies, and it's asking New 423 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Jersey residents to weigh in. The survey asked for feedback 424 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: on the overall policy as well as specific aspects of 425 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: the hunt. For example, the new regulations prohibit hunting within 426 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: three hundred feet of abated area, taking cubs less than 427 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: seventy five pounds, and taking adult bears accompanying cubs less 428 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: than seventy five pounds. In addition to this survey, which 429 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: you can find by going to the Meat Eater dot 430 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: com forward slash Cal, the New Jersey Fish and Game 431 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: Council is holding a public hearing on January eighteenth to 432 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: discuss these policies. The New Jersey Chapter of back Country 433 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Hunters and Anglers is asking hunters to pack the hearing. 434 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Anti hunting groups have historically outnumbered hunters at these meetings, 435 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: but let's make sure that doesn't happen this time around. 436 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: The meeting will take place in Trenton on January and 437 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: I'd encourage any and all New Jersey hunters to attend. 438 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: That's all I've got for you this week. Thank you 439 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: so much for listening, and remember to write in to 440 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: a s k C a L that's asked cal at 441 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater dot com. 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