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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel. They called me Ben.

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Speaker 3: We're joined as always with our super producer Paul Michigan

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Speaker 3: Troll decades. Most importantly, you are here. That makes this

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Speaker 3: the stuff they don't want you to know. It's a

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Speaker 3: interesting time to be alive. There's a lot of scuttle

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Speaker 3: but going on on the surface and in the waves,

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Speaker 3: and indeed in space. We're gonna learn about potassium. We

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Speaker 3: might get some good news about some of our favorite pets.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have some conversations about Star Wars. I didn't

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Speaker 3: drink a little fago. But before we do any of that,

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Speaker 3: we received, as we mentioned in an earlier episode, this week,

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Speaker 3: we received a lot of fascinating correspondence about chaos in

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Speaker 4: That's right, and this one comes to us from the

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Speaker 4: Cold War Hammer. Let's jump right in. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: hear your commentary on the news that dropped this week

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Speaker 4: that Russia is developing a nuclear capable asat weapon platform.

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Speaker 4: The way in which this is being reported has me

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Speaker 4: sort of scratching my head. Seems like there was an

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Speaker 4: that officials care about it and think that it's an

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Speaker 4: urgent issue. Then John Kirby goes out of his way

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Speaker 4: to make some statements to reassure the public, which I

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Speaker 4: would paraphrase as quote, this technology definitely has not yet

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Speaker 4: been deployed, and this weaponry definitely would not be able

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Speaker 4: to nuke people on Earth. I'm serious, guys, Why would

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Speaker 4: you ever think that the id The idea of using

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Speaker 4: nukes to destroy satellites seems sort of overkilled, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be like using a ten pound sledgehammer to

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Speaker 4: kill an ant I don't get it. Also, thanks to

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Speaker 4: the movie Gravity, we all know that breaking satellites into

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Speaker 4: many tiny pieces that will continue to orbit Earth is

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Speaker 4: generally not a great thing for any nation interested in

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Speaker 4: space operations. So again, why this leads me to a

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Speaker 4: deeper question maybe another time? Is Russia really a relevant

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Speaker 4: threat to Western nations this day and age? The war

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Speaker 4: not the mighty Cold War era behemoth that it used

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Speaker 4: to be. If it was, then that war would have

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Speaker 4: been over many many months ago. And I'm editorializing here

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Speaker 4: like Putin indicated. You know, early on he said it

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Speaker 4: me seriously wonders if our government uses the seventy plus

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Speaker 4: year old notion of Russia as being a super unhinged, dangerous,

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Speaker 4: technologically advanced as a baseline or easy fallback justification for

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Speaker 4: the continued excessive dumping of taxpayer funds into our military

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Speaker 4: a boogeyman. If you will at thirty five's anybody, If

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Speaker 4: you don't end up covering this, please tell Josh and

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Speaker 4: Chuck that they should do a short stuff on asat Technology.

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Speaker 4: If you choose to read this on your podcast, you

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Speaker 4: can refer to me as the Cold War hammer boom,

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Speaker 4: which we did. I think this is just such a

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Speaker 4: spy satellites. It came up a little bit THEEA we

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Speaker 4: look like. But I think Cold War Hammer raises several

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Speaker 4: really great questions, and I think we should maybe get

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Speaker 4: to them one at a time. What would a quote

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Speaker 4: unquote asat device in space need with nuclear technology? Is

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Speaker 4: or destroy satellites? That mean you wouldn't cause the kind

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I want to say, guys, just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the here's like a bully on the playground.

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Speaker 3: Here's the proposition though, and this is increasingly we didn't

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Speaker 3: is that a good idea? I don't think so. But

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Speaker 4: Kirby would not disclose the specific capabilities of the weapon

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Speaker 4: reported Wednesday that the weapon is quote nuclear capable. However,

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Speaker 4: Kirby didn't confirm if that description applied to the ASAT,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately we have to remember that sometimes these guys are

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Speaker 4: Right, like again some of the stuff we were talking

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Speaker 3: And he's not being squirrely for fun. He's not being

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Speaker 3: Part of the reason they can't say a lot about

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Speaker 3: compromise how they got it their collection methods. That's right,

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Speaker 3: So now those collection methods are a much higher percentage

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Speaker 4: And Kirby also went on to say that the US

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Speaker 4: if not a few years, but that in recent weeks

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Speaker 2: So can we I'm want to stick on nuclear propulsion

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Speaker 4: wouldn't that also create a nuclear event.

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Speaker 3: there it is, thank you. It just it takes so

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Speaker 3: So there are serious questions about the deliverables or the capabilities.

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Speaker 2: Well, the UK famously in the news this week failed

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Speaker 2: to try and missile test again.

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Speaker 3: The thing people are concerned about and the reason these

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Speaker 3: it's it's primarily to things. It's the ability to somehow

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Speaker 3: And secondly related to that, it's what we have talked

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Speaker 4: threat isn't even real, but like we were talking about,

437
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 4: even with the Russia thing, it gives you a lot

438
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: of power to wield over the populace, to have this

439
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: perceived threat that only we can save you from.

440
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but in this case it's weird because if

441
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: you go along with Sergeant Will's theory. Thank you so much,

442
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: Sergeant Will for calling in before before I jump back

443
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: into this. That was three three minute voicemails that are

444
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: like scrunched down into.

445
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: Water, and thank you Sergeant Will very much.

446
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: And Sergeant Will, if you are listening back there, I

447
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: don't remember saying it that way. I tried really hard

448
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: to make sure I got like exactly what you were

449
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: saying in there and didn't change what you were saying,

450
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: but really scrunched it down. But what Sergeant will is

451
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: saying is that you can't ever let anyone know that

452
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: you are the source behind this tech if it existed

453
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: like that to me was mind blowing.

454
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's I mean, okay, so, yes, there's lots

455
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: of unpack here, and I'm really glad to thank you

456
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: for your time, sergeant. So we've talked about some of

457
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: these things in the past. One of the one of

458
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: the big questions right at the conundrum of the terrens

459
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: is maintaining that value and that leverage right that value

460
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 3: proposition is that would say, however, there there is something

461
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 3: interesting that I'd love to explore, which is the human aspect,

462
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: of human intelligence aspect. So we know, for instance, like

463
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: in efforts to stemy nuclear weaponization, we've seen things like

464
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: Stuck's Net, and Stuck's Net relied on social engineering and

465
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: relied on human intelligence because those systems were air gaped,

466
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: so someone had to physically get something like a USB

467
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: into that computer and hopefully get out, which we're pretty

468
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: sure they did. But the idea then with human also

469
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: brings an inherent vulnerability, and that vulnerability increases exacerbates with

470
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: each new operator you add. So if there is this

471
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 3: top secret capability that'll make the world a safer place

472
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: while also retaining us position is the hedgemon, then you

473
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: have to be very buttoned up about how anybody involved

474
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: with that operates, you know, and secrets are tough to keep.

475
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 3: So it's if this is true, and this is a

476
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: fascinating theory. If this is true, one of the first

477
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: questions would be, how come no one has come forward?

478
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: How come there has never been a snowden right some

479
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: as Soulenge purveyor of classified things. Is it just not

480
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: existing on paper, never on the internet? Just handshaked?

481
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: What if people have, it's just they are not to

482
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: be believed according to popular or you know. I mean,

483
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: you hear an outlandish claim from somebody like Bob Bazaar

484
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, that can't be real. There's no

485
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: way that's real. And there are reasons, as we've talked

486
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: about on this show that to maybe a question.

487
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: More to say, people closer to the actual source come

488
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: out and say, wow, maybe there is some credence to that.

489
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: Then it starts to feel a little more believable.

490
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but anybody who comes out and talks about it,

491
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: who even testifies the front of Congress, gets put through

492
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: the ringers when it comes to like their credibility, and

493
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just feel like maybe there have

494
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: been people who have come forward. It's just who is

495
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: going to.

496
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 3: Believe and also consider this, like just because So what

497
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: we're doing here, Sergeant, is we're taking this theory gave

498
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: us and we're sort of turning it around in a

499
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: show and tell, just getting a shape of it and

500
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: a sense of its dimitrions. So lest we sound like

501
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: we're poopoing it, which I don't think any of us are,

502
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: I do want to point out this theory, even unproven,

503
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: is so much more plausible than the idea of extraterrestrials,

504
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: specifically eliminating nuclear capability.

505
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it gives a reason, right, it gives a

506
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: reason to have to develop that tech and to deploy it.

507
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: And to obscure it. And also all of the pieces

508
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: described in this I'm holding my hands out here as

509
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: though it's a physical thing that I'm playing with. All

510
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: the pieces described here on their own are proven to

511
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: exist with what exception the nuclear capability. That's the only

512
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: thing it's really asking us other than the weakness of humans.

513
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: Well, two quick questions. One, is this tech so out

514
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: of the realm of anything that we fully understand that

515
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: we wouldn't even know what it might look like like?

516
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: What would it take to have a tech that could

517
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: literally counter a nuclear blasts?

518
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Well, in this case, what is being described again in

519
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: we have to state this in a documentary that was

520
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: viewed by Sergeant Will that is then being used to

521
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: develop this theory, right, which are based on testimonials that

522
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: we have seen that we we talked with doctor Stephen

523
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Greer about the Disclosure Project and some of the officials

524
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: that made statements in the year two thousand and I

525
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: think two thousand and one. I think it was two

526
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: thousand and one because of writer it was two thousand,

527
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and who made disclosures about this

528
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: exact activity with missile silos being targeted by whatever these

529
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: things were that disabled nuclear weapons systems, which we.

530
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: Have a video about, we have an episode about, we

531
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: have video about that just came out on social media.

532
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: I think, oh, yeah, we do. We absolutely do. Go

533
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 2: check out Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. I think you can

534
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: find it on all those places.

535
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, conspiracy stuff on YouTube, conspiracy stuff show on TikTok

536
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: and Instagram.

537
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: Yes, oh shoot, I forgot where I was going here,

538
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 2: But the point was.

539
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: The point was the like shutting down this capability, right

540
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: what that tech would look like as well? Yes, questions.

541
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: So, thinking about drone technology, we know of that the

542
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: drone technology very well that was deployed with operations in

543
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: Afghanistan and Iraq in the early two thousands. We know

544
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: very well the newer drone technology that's coming out. There

545
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: was a recent statement by somebody that I clocked, but

546
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: I cannot regurgitate what it was right now. It was

547
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: about a new type of drone that somebody really high

548
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: up in defense talked about like, oh, that's just the

549
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: new class of drones.

550
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: And it came out because it's someone who had served

551
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: I think in a UAP related field for a while. Yes,

552
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: and they were saying, look, it's not aliens. We looked

553
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: into this and this guy is i'll get his name,

554
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: but this guy is publishing a sort of historic compilation

555
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: of these activities that he's allowed to speak about now.

556
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: And he said that the thing that pilots described that

557
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: looked like roughly like a cube or maybe a dodecahedron

558
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: or something that was surrounded in a transparent circle. You're

559
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: saying that's the top level drone right now, because they

560
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: have they have more maneuverability.

561
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just remembering when we're talking about the testimony

562
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: given at Congress where Ryan Graves, somebody who talked with

563
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 2: Payne Lindsay on high Strange and somebody that we discussed

564
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: in the past, that's the type of craft or a

565
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: very similar description of the craft that he saw, or

566
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: the people who were working with him gave testimony about yes.

567
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and oh, we're gonna have to we're gonna have

568
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: to get this guy's name later, but we definitely both

569
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: read the same testimony and it is it is true. Look,

570
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: a lot of times people might think it's a bummer

571
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: to figure this stuff out, but a lot of these

572
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: things are mundane. They can be explained by the need

573
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: to obscure collection methods. They can be explained by the

574
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: need to keep whatever edge one has over rival military

575
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: regardless of how.

576
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Slim dude, let's talk about the SDI, the Strategic Defense

577
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Initiative and ballistic missile systems and star wars program that

578
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 2: started will match right, it's right, this is nineteen eighty

579
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: four been working on it for a while. The concept

580
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: was to use ray guns guys like lasers and other

581
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: high powered energy weapons to disable nuclear missiles even if

582
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: like before they've been launched, after they were launched launch.

583
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it.

584
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: And again that's why started Will, I think makes such

585
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: a great point saying this is the Star Wars program

586
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: in the two thousands.

587
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: That makes sense. Yeah, I mean I do. Again think

588
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 3: it's far more plausible than extraterrestrials having like a chip

589
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: on their shoulder or are in their tentacles specifically about

590
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: nuclear power. Well, I'm so sorry.

591
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: No, you keep trying to talk. Wouldn't you test that

592
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: on yourself before you tested it on an enemy combatants

593
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons? Because think about what that if it didn't

594
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: work and you're targeting your enemy's nukes, about what that

595
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: could trigger a.

596
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 4: Massive chain reaction, like in terms of just you know,

597
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: just mutually assured destruction. But what I was just gonna

598
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: mention is the thing I said at the top that

599
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: maybe was jumping the gun a little bit, just the

600
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: idea of how long the specter of nuclear war has

601
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: been this thing, you know, for the world, The idea

602
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: of like what that would be like and how that's

603
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: where the power actually lies. What would it mean for

604
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: the nature of warfare and relationships between countries that maybe

605
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: don't get along so cozally if there were a known

606
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: technology that would get rid of the specter of this

607
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: big bad that's been hovering over everything for so.

608
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: Long, then everyone would have to have that technology, right, Yeah.

609
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: You got to keep up with the Joneses. And also

610
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: there's the question of how long mad will hold, how

611
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: long that strategy, that calculation and philosophy will remain relevant

612
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 3: because as we speak right now, there are a lot

613
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: of all right, don't laugh, but this is the real

614
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: term revolutions and military affairs called rmas. So you'll hear

615
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: people talking about like, oh, the rmas are coming, there's

616
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: a you know, it's going to be difficult for NATO

617
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: and Russia and China in particular. But what they really

618
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: mean is they're talking in the long term about the

619
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: evolution of breakthroughs in war. So like gun powder, use

620
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: of cava, stuff like that. As soon as it became

621
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: useful for that stuff to be public, as soon as

622
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: the cost benefit swung just a little, then it instantly

623
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: went pub that's right. Yeah, So sergent Will is saying,

624
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: right now, that switch hasn't occurred.

625
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Sure, but we're on the cusp.

626
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: Probably there is.

627
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: A threat big enough where they say, Okay, we're going

628
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: to have to rapidly evolve. We're gonna have to shut

629
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: down MAD. We're gonna have to throw Mad out the

630
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: window because we have to stop an imminent nuclear disaster. Oh,

631
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: then that's that's a calculation that people will have to make.

632
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: But this is the anti threat, right, Like, this is

633
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: the antidote, you know, for this specter that we've been

634
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: you know, in living in fear of. I mean, think

635
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: how rarely nuclear bombs have actually been deployed, and yet

636
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 4: it creates this boogeyman that we all live in fear

637
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: of the threat of.

638
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, Like, when so there is such

639
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 3: an enormous cost if such a technology exists. Let's say

640
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: something terrible goes wrong, Putin is no longer a rational

641
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: actor and the dead hand system is real, and the

642
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: US says, well, the only way we can stop this

643
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: is we shut down all the dead hand nukes, and

644
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: then everybody knows and then what kind of crazy consequences

645
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: are we going to face? Because people will say why

646
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: did you do this for centuries? You know, or fix

647
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: the tax system, but you can shut down.

648
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Whatever, Ben, yeah, or you say that it's not yours.

649
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: Still you say that it's some kind of extraterrestrial force

650
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: that saved the Earth very X files. No, but but

651
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 2: not just X files, like Unite the Earth against whatever

652
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: the thing is.

653
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Speaker 4: Because that's my point with all this crap that I've

654
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Speaker 4: been talking. We need that threat to some degree to

655
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: get rid of that threat. It's such a sea change

656
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: that it's going to have to be rethought, you know,

657
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 4: otherwise where it's everything's going to be out of balance.

658
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: We need to have a threat.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Ben, I can see that picture so clearly

660
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: that you just painted with that moment.

661
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Speaker 4: I think that's happened in sci fi there has been

662
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: like a sort of a false flag and an me

663
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: like extraterrestrial enemy that turns out wasn't really.

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Speaker 2: We always talked about Watchmen. That's what it was.

665
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: Of course, that's what it was. Yes, thank you, that's

666
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: what it is. No spoilers, I mean you still can no,

667
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 4: but that's exactly.

668
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: But that specific moment when the nuke the nukes are being.

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Speaker 4: Launched, right and Watchman. It wasn't a false flag. It

670
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: was a manufactured, actual catastrophe that they then blamed on

671
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: this thing. But we actually did it ourselves, right, But.

672
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Speaker 2: In this case it would be benevolent forces from elsewhere.

673
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Speaker 2: I think that's incredible, but it's actually the US military.

674
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: It was the friends we made along the way.

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Speaker 2: Right dude, Well, I yes, all right, guys, that's it.

676
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Sergeant Will for sending us those messages.

677
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: We really love the way you think and the way

678
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: you speak, and anybody else who has ideas give us

679
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: a call. Our number is one eight three three std

680
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Speaker 2: w TK. We'll be right back with more messages from you.

681
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: In return. You can also send us an email directly.

682
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: We read every single one we get. Conspiracydiheartradio dot com.

683
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Let's hold up some examples. Here's one that I thought

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Speaker 3: would be interesting because I hadn't really thought about this,

685
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys have either. This

686
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: comes to us from iron Man. Iron Man. I love

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Speaker 3: the way right you say the following. Hi everyone. I

688
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 3: know you're aware of the status of American heart health,

689
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Speaker 3: and I appreciate that you took on Big Sugar a

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: while back that took hutzpah. What I want to offer

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00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: to you is the opposite side of the same coin potassium.

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: Potassium has been shown in long term studies to have

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Speaker 3: a significant effect on heart health. It's the electrolyte that

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00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: no one seems to talk about in a meaningful way.

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00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: Of course, the SAD is high in sodium, and potassium

696
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: is like the yin to sodium's yang. The great problem

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00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: studies are showing is not that American sodium levels are

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00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: so high, but that American potassium levels are so low.

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00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: So it might be editorializing here, might be looking at

700
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: the problem from the wrong angle. Iron Man continues, A

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Speaker 3: higher sodium diet is not inherently bad, but it becomes

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Speaker 3: bad without proportionately high potassium levels. The recommended daily allowance

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Speaker 3: or OURDA of potassium is forty seven hundred milligrams. It's

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Speaker 3: believed that less than two percent of Americans meet this number.

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Speaker 3: I want to pause there, because you know, I'm not

706
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Speaker 3: a great example of an entity taking care of itself.

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Speaker 3: But I've never thought about potassium levels.

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Speaker 2: Banana is literally the only thing to hear potassium.

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Speaker 3: I think about kazakhstein.

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Speaker 4: Because also that it's one of the weirder periodic table symbols.

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00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: It's k Yeah, nothing to do with potassium. It is

712
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: probably a reference to its Greek name. Where else do

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00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: we get potassium in a diet pills? People take supplements

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Speaker 4: for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we have a we have an answer at the end. Okay,

716
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: so it's not all bad news. So at the same time,

717
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Speaker 3: continues iron Man, OTC over the counter potassium supplement regulations

718
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: are so tight that you cannot get a meaningful supplement

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Speaker 3: in stores. The maximum amount of potassium allowed in an

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Speaker 3: OTC pill is one hundred milligrams, and that's two percent

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Speaker 3: of the recommended daily allowance, So you have to take

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Speaker 3: a lot of them. I did not either. Iron Man

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00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: says this is due to the adverse effects of high

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00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: amounts of potassium for people with certain pre existing health issues.

725
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: While the reasoning for not allowing greater amounts is sound,

726
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: it exacerbates this problem. People can take whatever multi item

727
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: and they want, but they'll always be missing out on

728
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: this one incredibly crucial nutrient. Not only that, but the

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: meaningless potassium supplements they allow to be put on the

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Speaker 3: shelf and sold over the counter trick people into thinking

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Speaker 3: they're meeting their needs. Watch out, big potassium. He's coming

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 2: Iron This is intense.

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Speaker 4: This is a lot all dreadfully lacking in potassium.

735
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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the source of all our problems.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys, I thought I was just having.

737
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Speaker 3: A terrible time existing. Iron Man, whomever they may be, says,

738
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: this is terrible, but not all that conspiratorial. That is

739
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Speaker 3: until you consider the unimaginable amount of money spent on

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Speaker 3: heart related healthcare in the US. I'm sure you've looked

741
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: in that number, into that number, and it's growing, not shrinking.

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00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: There is a cosmic level of financial motivation here. Could

743
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Speaker 3: it be a happy coincidence for the American medical care

744
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: scamp I mean system? Maybe? Could it be an insanely

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: deadly and wildly profitable conspiracy. Probably either way. I'm writing

746
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: to you guys because you care about people. It's very

747
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: kind and about trying to make a difference through the

748
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: dissemination of important information. Conspiracy or not, this is a

749
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: PSA that just hasn't gotten out there in a meaningful way.

750
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: The number of lives that could save is like most

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00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: of them. Anyways, I hope you all looked into this

752
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: because you're proven yourselves to be expert level researchers. Love

753
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: the show. Keep going. Thanks iron Man. Ps at iron

754
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Man's opinion. Beans to your question, Matt, are magical. Fruit

755
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: are the best shot at fixing this. White beans especially

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Speaker 3: what if.

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00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: You're like a good white chili that'll work. Also, other

758
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: leafy greens like spinach and broccoli apparently contain some amounts

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Speaker 4: of potassium. Also potatoes and the other lentils which I'm

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00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: a fan of. Legumes. Avocado also is really nice, and

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00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: of course the humble banana, the humble radioactive banana. I

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00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: do have beef, and I think we all do. With

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Speaker 4: the American healthcare system, but I will say I get

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Speaker 4: a decent amount of blood work done because of the

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Speaker 4: thyroid condition that I have, so I have to get

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Speaker 4: at my levels checked pretty regularly. And I got a

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00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: message from my doctor saying that my vitamin D levels

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Speaker 4: were really bad. Yeah, it's probably because I don't go

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Speaker 4: outside enough. But they prescribed me, you know, a prescription

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Speaker 4: level supplements three.

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Speaker 2: Thousand I use, how many I don't recall.

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Speaker 4: I don't recall, but it is they are monitoring for

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Speaker 4: that kind of strung and I would imagine that if

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Speaker 4: my potassium levels were ridiculously low. They would have said

775
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: something about that too. Well maybe not.

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Speaker 3: Maybe is like order of operations as well. They fix

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Speaker 3: this the D, then the K, and then.

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Speaker 2: I see, by the way, by the way p s A. Guys,

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Speaker 2: you know that stands for right Vitamin D Potassium Service Announcement.

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Speaker 3: Worth it? Okay, I thought you were going blue. No,

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00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: I respect it.

782
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: I went blue secretly, subvert covertly.

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Speaker 3: So this is the reason I'm sharing this. First off,

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Speaker 3: we'd love to hear your thoughts on this, folks, especially

785
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: if you're a medical professional. Also want to hear is

786
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: very important. If you think we should do an episode

787
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: on supplements, I'm super into it. We may get some feedback,

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00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: but I think it's okay to come for supplements because

789
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 3: it's a very widely unregulated industry. A lot of times

790
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: people get miserable situations because they have been built by

791
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 3: a bad faith actor.

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00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: You know what's interesting too is I have a dear

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00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: friend who is a lifelong vegan and later in life

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Speaker 4: has started to run into some health issues because you know,

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00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 4: you're there's something called like a sugar vegan. They eat

797
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 4: a lot of tofu and things like that a lot

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00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 4: of starchy kind of things.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's also a thing.

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Speaker 4: And apparently over time it can really affect things like

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00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: bone density. It can really affect your health, and problems

802
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: can emerge despite your best efforts to live a quote

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00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: unquote healthier lifestyle. So I think that really ties into

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00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 4: what you're talking about ben with supplements, where I think

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00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: you know, people take them not out of like snake

806
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: oil superstition. Most of the time they're trying to just

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00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: have a more balanced diet. But there can be issues

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00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: that arise, and I think the marketing behind it and

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00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: the math and the science behind it probably very much

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00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: worth an exploration.

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Speaker 2: Is there some isn't there something with supplements like that

812
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: too that your body doesn't metabolize depending upon Yeah, because.

813
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: They depending on the substance, depending upon the delivery method

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00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: of the substance.

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00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to have other things in your

816
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: like system to break down certain stuff something like that. Yeah,

817
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: it's so much more complicated than take a pill.

818
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: To be very crass about it. One example for one

819
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 3: like dirty don't do drugs kids. Example is the reason

820
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: that people insulflate cocaine right instead of snort okay, instead

821
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: of you can't smoke it because it's not soluble, or you.

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00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 4: Can't like swallow, you can't swallow it, won't do it, yeah,

823
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 4: whatever like that. That's the reason crack is a thing

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00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: because cocaine in its form powder form cannot be smoked,

825
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: so it has to be bound with whatever, baking soda, whatever.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to make crack, but there is

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00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: a reason that that is smokable versus the kind that

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00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: has to be either injected or insulfatedated.

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Speaker 3: Not related, Okay, Yeah, And so the important thing here

830
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: that we're saying, folks, that you need to understand, and

831
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: a lot of chemists will confirm this potassium is basically

832
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: the cocaine of the chemic bioavailability bioavailability as part of it. Yeah,

833
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: but like the argument has crossed, is the example the

834
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 3: analogy holds because of that that method of delivery and

835
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: digestion is key, and a lot of over the counter supplements.

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00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: Don't take that into account. They don't or at very

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00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: at least don't share with you the detail.

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: And also, of course this is not a ding on

839
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Speaker 3: anybody who has been taking a supplement felt very strongly

840
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: about it, and then found the science wasn't there. There

841
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 3: are no such thing really as stupid people, and people

842
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: are given the opportunity to access information and digest it,

843
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: perhaps dependent upon the method of delivery as well, then

844
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: they're going to amaze you because people are pretty smart.

845
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Speaker 4: I think that's very magnanimous of you, Ben. I would

846
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: have to disagree. I think there are such a thing

847
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 4: as stupid people, but I do think your point holds

848
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: true that it is about education, and most people, when

849
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 4: given the opportunity to educate themselves, will do so, that's

850
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, like maybe we're looking at again.

852
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, yeah, you're absolutely spot on.

853
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: So let us know your favorite supplement conspiracies, whether they're

854
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: pro a certain supplement, anti a certain supplement, and if so,

855
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: why looking forward to those emails. For sure you will

856
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: probably end up in the show because we're hoping people

857
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: have a lot of opinions on these. Luckily we ended

858
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: with some beans and some spinach and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Can I just add, really, there is a sort of

860
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: maybe not a fad diet, but there is a type

861
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 4: of diet called a low potassium diet. So there also

862
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: might be health reasons because of the health individuals.

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00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: Which is why the supplements have to be below a

864
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: certain amount. So maybe it's a thing where.

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00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: Otherwise they could like kill you or something.

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00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: Not solving it for everybody, right shout out to of course,

867
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: the the overdoses that scientology makes people take right the nius.

868
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Speaker 2: But then again, guys, I think in the end this

869
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: is just a sodium conspiracy.

870
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: It's big sodi salts, exalt.

871
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Let's take them on.

872
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 3: Speaking of there's while we're while we're guarding ours those

873
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 3: for supplement war. Speaking of big salt, there's one last

874
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: thing I wanted to share here, so you still got

875
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: a little time, which is a letter from a guy

876
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 3: we're gonna call big Shucks. Big Shucks to be clear,

877
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: did not choose the name. We're giving that to you.

878
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: It is our gift to you, big shucks, and big

879
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: Shucks said the following, I, Big Shucks, hence forward with

880
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: this declaration, irrevocably and perpetually, grant them my unqualified assent

881
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 3: say for express stipulations to the contrary, here and after

882
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: provided to peruse audibly all compositions I direct onto.

883
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: The Okay, so this is permission, this permission.

884
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: But here's the thing you really said. I just like

885
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: the way he wrote that big shucks, so big Shuck says,

886
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: just got to say, fellas, everyone will love. This topic

887
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: a good one to try and get new viewers on.

888
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: Keep up the good work, my friends. Keep it weird

889
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: out there. Also do more weird on China. There's a

890
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 3: ton out there all the time, and it's looking weird

891
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: and fascinatings. We're just putting some bleeps in there. But folks,

892
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: you can tell if you're playing along at home.

893
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: Fashion.

894
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what big shucks means this is the news. I

895
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: thought that's a great one to end on. There is

896
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: apparently a new drug that is going to extend the

897
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: life of dogs, and there's another one that will extend

898
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: the life of cats. So this is one for the

899
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: animal lovers. Please, of course, always send your pet pictures or,

900
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: in case of the pictures, conspiracy diheartradio dot com. I

901
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 3: think this is kind of good news unless you hate

902
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 3: your dog or your cat.

903
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 2: I think this is amazing news.

904
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I sometimes hate my cat. I think we've

905
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 4: all been there are kind of a whole Sometimes.

906
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about no specifically about your cat,

907
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: like shrugging and.

908
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, oh no, no, your cats are probably great

909
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: cats are They can be kind of jerks. They're agents

910
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: of chaos. I'll take them, Matt. It's a love hate thing.

911
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 4: It's fine, it's natural.

912
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: So here's the here's the thing too. Uh. This medicine

913
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: has been developed, the one for dogs. It's been developed

914
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: by a veterinary biotech company called Loyal for Dogs. This

915
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: is coming to us from Science Alert by Carly Cassella

916
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: from December of last year, so it saw us to

917
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: go through clinical trials, but it appears to be on

918
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: the way. The FDA has formerly formally accepted this drug

919
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: for development, and they believe this thing, which is called

920
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: l o YDS one. They believe this can be given

921
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: to dogs as an injection every three to six months

922
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: by vets once the dogs are seven years of age

923
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: or old, or as long as they weigh at least

924
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: forty pounds. It may, especially with larger breeds, help them

925
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: live much longer, because you know, that's the heartbreaking thing

926
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: about a lot large dog breeds, like Great Danes, Irish wolfhounds,

927
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 3: they burn bright but briefly.

928
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I don't think it's directly proportional to

929
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: their size and weight when you go down all the way.

930
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: But it is like smaller dogs live quite a long time, right.

931
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. If you hate chaua, well that's fad is because

932
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: those little guys will stick around forever.

933
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

934
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 4: I mean, you know the humping' you know exercise.

935
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: Hand nobody, it's really all the shivering.

936
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: It's a continual workout.

937
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: But there's there's just so little body to you know,

938
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: fuel for so long. And then you have those big animals.

939
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: I've got medium dogs. Owner what the actual life expects Charlie.

940
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: Is Charlie a big dog or a medium dog? Charlie? Yeah,

941
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: my dog Charlie medium.

942
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

943
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: Also, also check out a brain stuff video I did

944
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: years ago on the doll human age thing. It's not

945
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: a one to seven ratio all the time. It does,

946
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 3: It evolves and it changes. But there's another question here

947
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: which I think Big Shucks probably also appreciates. Is it

948
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 3: so much about the extension of the lifespan or is

949
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: it about the extension of the good parts of the lifespan?

950
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: Humans are running into that right now. Dennis Leary had

951
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: a great bit on it years ago where he said, look, yes,

952
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: you could live to one hundred fifty or whatever. If

953
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: you're human one day in the future, would you want

954
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: to have the next fifty years just sort of.

955
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: Suck coming up to you after you give a speech

956
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: to a bunch of people about how you want to

957
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: still be the president.

958
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 3: Sorry, we should put.

959
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 4: That sides of the aisle.

960
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: That's how we were all I've set up before. I

961
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: strongly believe there should be age limits to high political offices.

962
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: John Stewart had a joke. Do you see him go

963
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: back on the Daily Show?

964
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: I haven't seen.

965
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 3: He'szoomed in on his face.

966
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you say the two this year we're

967
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: breaking We will break the record for the two oldest

968
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: candidates running for president, and they're breaking the record that

969
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: they set last election.

970
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's terrible. That's something to let us know

971
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: about two folks like Honestly, if you want to be

972
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: a centenarian comptroller, fine, go with God. But if you

973
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: want to be like president or maybe on Scotis, I

974
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 3: don't think it's agis. I don't think it's a hot

975
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: take to say you should be somewhat representative of the

976
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: population that you purport to represent.

977
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be smart to age out of a public

978
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: position like that to where the next generation that's in

979
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: line would have actual representation.

980
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 4: Frankly, I think it's by design to keep that next

981
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: generation from gaining that representation for as long as humanly possible.

982
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 4: That's the same with justices and stuff.

983
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: You know, that's a big part of But there's also

984
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: the in theory we were saying there's a certain amount

985
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: of time needed to accumulate the experience, the networks and

986
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: the expertise, but that's clearly not always true. You know.

987
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: I think that's there's an ulterior motive, and I think

988
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 3: that's what you're getting at.

989
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah.

990
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm not saying that's the founding father

991
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 4: necessarily had in mind, but it doesn't feel like our

992
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: founding documents are very focused on bringing new ideas into

993
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 4: the mix.

994
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: Fathers would be horrified by everything that they did.

995
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: Mean for it to be more malleable than we have

996
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 4: allowed it to be, I would.

997
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: Argue, yeah, but they would still they'd be freaking out

998
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: about television, let alone space. The fel Crow is insane, right.

999
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: You guys, can we do that next video shoot? It's

1000
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: where we're founding Fathers and we're just freaked out.

1001
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

1002
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: I think about that though with time travelers, like, uh,

1003
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: you know, we always talk about I think it's kind

1004
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: of like a dumb question to say how someone would

1005
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: fare if they went entries back into the past. The

1006
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: answer for the vast majority of humanity is not very

1007
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: well at all.

1008
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: Connecticut Yankee is a good example of that in fiction.

1009
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:08,479
Speaker 4: Was that Twain?

1010
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Twain. But the idea of

1011
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: people traveling forward in time is much more interesting to

1012
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: me because it gives us a fun opportunity to question

1013
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: our assumptions about the past, Like, we don't know what

1014
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: would amaze Thomas Jefferson. He probably have some complicated takes

1015
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 3: that didn't age well. Yeah, and then you know, think

1016
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 3: about like if you had never heard of things that

1017
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 3: we take for granted, how amazed would you be when

1018
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: you when you see them? Like, we don't know what

1019
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 3: would amaze time travelers. I don't know how I got

1020
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 3: here from potassium, but.

1021
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: Time, so there it is time. Well, I mean, you know,

1022
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: it makes me think of back to the future, too,

1023
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 4: which I think, you know, one handles the past and

1024
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: two handles the future, and honestly, think they they did

1025
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 4: a pretty dang good job of presenting the these kind

1026
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: of futuristic things, some of which have very much come

1027
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 4: to pass. But at the time, Marty McFly is us,

1028
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: you know, and he is like experiencing all this crazy stuff.

1029
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: He's blown away. There's that thing where there's the giant

1030
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 4: three D shark and he goes to the shark still

1031
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 4: looks fake.

1032
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1033
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 4: As much as things change, they stay the same as well.

1034
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, let's make that video because think about

1035
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: other things, like we're we're saying yes, space, yes, nuclear weapons,

1036
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: and they're the naturally any person who had heard of

1037
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: them before. But I think it's simpler stuff. I think

1038
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: it's the fact that you can buy oranges year round.

1039
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: It would be like, this is fucking astonishing, but devil.

1040
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: Devilish, this is against the laws of nature, against.

1041
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: The laws of nature. Let us know, folks, what you

1042
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: think the strangest thing would be for people traveling to

1043
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: the future, no holds barred, give us your honest opinions.

1044
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: I think gasoline would be up there. Sure. I think

1045
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: maybe the way socks have changed would be a big,

1046
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: big one for him, because they were super into the leggings,

1047
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: you know.

1048
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: I mean now the closest thing we had to that

1049
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 4: I guess are just high socks. Well, leggis are still

1050
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: a thing, but you know, gentlemen don't typically wear them.

1051
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: They can.

1052
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 3: Wigs are way less popular, it depends or demographic.

1053
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that they're more of like an outlandish fashion choice,

1054
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, as opposed to like the norm.

1055
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 3: Did I tell you? I was talking with some French

1056
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: people about one of our show is Ridiculous History, and

1057
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: I was saying, how much I enjoyed an episode about

1058
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: why British lawyers and former colonial officials or officials from

1059
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: former colonial places where those wigs called perukes.

1060
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: To hide their scabies or something, and yeah, it's very

1061
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: dirty stuff.

1062
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: And then the it was so weird because these very

1063
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: nice French people that hung out with and had a

1064
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: karaoke adventure with Paris.

1065
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: Just encountered in the wild and became bals.

1066
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they they very phlegmatically. They were like, you know,

1067
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: peruk is just the word for wig in French, and

1068
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: I was like, why it's not a special word. They're like,

1069
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure the episode is very good. I would love

1070
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: to listen to it, but no, but.

1071
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 4: That's a great example of appropriating the language of other

1072
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 4: cultures and just making it like a new American word

1073
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 4: that means the thing we see it all the time,

1074
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 4: Like a file at, you know, is just a French

1075
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: word that means like a certain size or a cut

1076
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 4: of meat or cut of meat, but we refer to

1077
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: as specifically as like a filet mignon.

1078
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there remans to be Italian scallopini. It's just fun

1079
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: to say scalop.

1080
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, I've got a pitch for the video really quickly.

1081
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: So it's a it's an intro that's too long, you know,

1082
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: like SNL style kind of back in the day, Like no,

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Speaker 2: like the intro to like a TV show or something.

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Speaker 2: It's way too long. It tells you exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Mister Belvidere the Nanny.

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Speaker 2: And so the actual content of each episode or each

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Speaker 2: super short, and it's like a very simple thing like

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Speaker 2: somebody whatever eating an orange and it's clearly winter or wherever,

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Speaker 2: and it just cuts to them. They're just and they're

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Speaker 2: just screaming and terrified like.

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Speaker 3: Toilets. Yeah, that's another big like.

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Speaker 4: This very much. I fear we've given away the game.

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Speaker 4: But now you guys just have to wait and see

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Speaker 4: how we pull it off. Slash. If we pull it.

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Speaker 3: Off and you don't have to sit and wait in hush,

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 3: frightened silence for our attempts at Sketch Comedy, you can

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Speaker 3: join your compatriots iron Man, Big Shuck, Sergeant Will and

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Speaker 3: the Cold Warhammer and Moore to become part of the show.

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Speaker 3: Let us know your thoughts. Let us know what you

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Speaker 3: think about Sergeant Will's fascinating Star Wars theory. Let us

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Speaker 3: know what you think about the Russian weapons and the

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Speaker 3: calculus behind them. Please please please help us explain or

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Speaker 3: the very many supplement conspiracies like literally, think of whatever

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Speaker 3: it is that you have taken that you think works,

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: or you saw someone take it and you think it's

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Speaker 3: utter bunk or indeed conspiratorial. Tell Us, tell us, tell us,

1107
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: send us pictures of your cats, dogs. We try to

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Speaker 3: be easy to find online, correct.

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Speaker 4: You can find us at the handle conspiracy stuff, where

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Speaker 4: we exist on Facebook, the aforementioned you two, where we

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Speaker 4: do have those attempts at Sketch Comedy rolling out every

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Speaker 4: single week, as well as x FKA Twitter. If you'd

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Speaker 4: like to find us on Instagram and TikTok. We are

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Speaker 4: the handle Conspiracy Stuff Show. But wait, there's more.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a telephonic device? Do you like to

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Speaker 2: use it to call people? I was a founding father,

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Speaker 2: So there you go, like a boomer call us. Our

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Speaker 2: number is one eight three three std WYTK. When you

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Speaker 2: call in it it is a voicemail. So you've got

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Speaker 2: three minutes. Give yourself a cool nickname and let us

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Speaker 2: know if we can use your name and message on

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Speaker 2: the air. If you've got more to see what is.

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Speaker 4: This apparition speaking words back to me through this cylindrical device.

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Speaker 2: Chill out, Hamilton, We're good. He was a founding father, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean Central Bank, Federal Reserve? All okay? Why not

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Speaker 2: instead send us an email?

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Speaker 3: It's one of the best ways to get in contact

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Speaker 3: with us. Twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

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Speaker 3: as the humans reckon time. Love it, love it, love

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Speaker 3: it because we can go back to what you have written.

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Speaker 3: You can send us links, you can send us pictures,

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Speaker 3: perhaps of your pets, and we read every single email

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Speaker 3: we get. Where we are conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuff they don't want you to know is the production

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Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.