WEBVTT - How Grady Jarrett is shaping the Bears' defensive identity | Bears Weekly 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:05.200 Welcome in to Bears Weekly, powered by IGS Energy by 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.320 Chicago Bears Network Production. Bears Weekly has brought you by 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:16.760 Advocate Healthcare, Let it Go Physical efferently, CD Colladay, Connie's Pizza, IGS. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.880 Energy, and Meller Liked. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.680 Here are your hosts, Jeff Chilniak, aka the Mayor of Bearsville, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.640 and his sidekick Tom the Surfmaster Thayer. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.440 Hey, everybody back with you. I'm talking Bears football here 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.519 on Bears Weekly. Last week of OTAs for the Bears 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:39.080 limited though rookies, probably some young players, special teams work. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.640 Father's Day come on up on Sunday, So Happy Father's Day. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.680 Jim Miller and Cole Comet got married over the weekend, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.199 so I saw some pictures of that, So congratulations to 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.320 Cole and his new bride. NFL writers still churn it 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.320 out copy trying to get a handle on what's to 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.600 come in the twenty twenty five season, including the Bears. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:00.400 We'll dig you into some of that as well. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.360 Tonight on ESPN one thousand of the Bears Ready to 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.759 Go not work with Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.120 Fair and Jim Middle from Serious XMNFL Radio. I'm Jeff Jonahak. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.800 We'll here tonight from Grady Jarrett. Tom and I visited 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.960 with him recently, so we'll explore the Bears defense in 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.440 detail tonight. Dan Brillly Jordan tread Up is our producing crew, 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:21.800 and in the ESPN studios, I think for the first time, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.240 we welcome in Jake Santos, the executive producer of the 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.560 Bears Radio Network. Eric Ostratski, Good evening, gentlemen, never shortage 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:30.200 of information. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:30.679 Tom. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.720 I was listening to Jim on Serious XML working in 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.200 the yard this afternoon, and I was rolling because you know, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.320 these fans are They're great. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.800 Fans are great. We're first couple weeks of June. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:47.080 Here, we're still a bit of a way from the 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.680 start of training camp, and everybody is. They're lit up, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.720 they're just ready to go. They're ready to talk, discuss, argue. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.480 And you're not too shy a boy jumping in the 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:55.120 pool with him. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.120 Jim, No, not at all, not at all, because this 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.200 is what we do every single day. And you know, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.960 I remember a lot of things, you know, I remember 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.840 certain callers that call in and are adamant about their beliefs. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.000 But hey, fans can get it wrong, just like gms 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.760 get it wrong, say on the selection of a quarterback. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.080 There's been numerous teams that have got it wrong. Bears 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.560 are one of them. There's other teams that have got 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.000 a wrong. There's no harm, no hot foul. You got 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.160 to keep on taking swings at the plate until you 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.400 get your guy. And hopefully Caleb Williams is that guy 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.600 for the Chicago Bears. But yeah, there was a call 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.079 that called in was adamant about their quarterback, and boy, 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.000 they quickly jumped ship and they were pointing towards this 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.600 year rather than last year when they were banging the 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.080 druma about their guy that they believed was the guy. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.040 And now they quickly moved away from that guy. But 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.919 if gms do that, they're fired. Coaches are fired, players 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.840 are fired, gms are fired. All new regimes are brought in. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.040 And so that's great for fans to say that I 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.919 had home on their lawnmower, but they're not getting fired, right. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.839 So jobs get lost and families get moved in. It's 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:08.560 a big business. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.720 What you know whatmmy one thing about the NFL. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.200 So there are stories they start Jaira Alexander, the linebacker 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.399 from Cincinnati. So those are things that the fans pay 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.079 attention to, whether it's in your city or if they're 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.079 just fans of the NFL. But I also think it's 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.840 probably one of the more important times of the year 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.600 that's gonna dictate the success and failure of a player's 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.880 career because everything that happens from the draft until the 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.640 last ota, you have an itinerary, you have a schedule, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.240 you're inside the building, you're learning about your football team 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.920 and all the elements that are involved, from the weight 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.680 room to the cafeteria, to the on field requirements, to 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.120 the new offense and defense that's being installed. But now 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.880 you have a six week opportunity and what are you 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.480 gonna do with it? And the great Clyde Emrick used 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.280 to say, it takes you two days to get out 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.600 of shape and two weeks to get in shape. So 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.960 don't come back to camp thinking that you're going to 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.760 have time to be you know, get yourself in shape 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.560 before you become competitive. Then it's gonna you're you're gonna 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.080 see the season in your rear view mirror. And then 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.920 the same thing with your tablet. If you can take 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.599 your tablet home and you can invest a lot of 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.359 time in studying this information, so you hit the ground 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.679 running when training camp starts again. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.200 I do think it's one of the most. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:31.719 Important times of a player's career that they control themselves 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.120 and they don't have somebody looking over their shoulder. So 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.680 when you say we got one more week of OTAs 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.440 when they get ready to go home, it's not about 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.279 a six weeks vacation. You can have some ZID vacation time, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:49.240 but make sure you're staying prepared for what's required of 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.520 you from the very first morning you get back to 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.200 training camp. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.440 Basic Basically, you're saying you got to be a self starter. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.440 You got to be a self starter when you when 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.919 you leave the building. You got to rely on your 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:05.200 execution and your discipline. Now I got to ask both 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.240 of you guys, because you guys didn't have tablets back 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.000 in the day. So whatever off season, did you spend 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.240 a lot of time watching film? The actual film? Did 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.520 you guys do this or what did you guys do well? 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.680 For me, I was fortunate to be in the system 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.800 for so long that you kind of went right back 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.600 to muscle memory. So we spent more time in the 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:32.520 facility lifting weights with our teammates in inside old Hallis Hall, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.440 which was the size of a wedding reception hall. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.520 It wasn't like where they have now. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.160 So we were still around each other and we had 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.680 a lot of football conversation, and we were encouraging each 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:44.960 other in the weight room, and. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.400 We were under the guidance of Clyde Emrick. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.760 So we had that part of it offered to us 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.680 that made us a closer team and better players. Nowadays, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.760 it seems like everybody scatters and they go in a 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:02.400 thousand different directions. So yeah, the requirements of what the 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.400 coaching staff is going to expect of you is going 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.520 to be proven within the first three days you get 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:09.279 back to camp. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.240 Jim, if you had a tablet back in the day, 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.200 would you have been even more prepared or it was 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.679 the tape in the building enough. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.719 No, I think I'd be more prepared because it's with 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.160 you all the time now, so you could actually take 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.839 the tablet out to say a football field where you're 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.880 working and maybe go through a script. That's what I 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.720 used to do. We watched all the tape like during 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.279 the OTAs and the mini camps, because again back in 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.840 the day, we just had a rookie mini camp and 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.159 a veteran mini camp, and then you were gone, but 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.880 you watched all that tape before you left the building. 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.320 But what I would do is i'd take the scripts. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.080 So I'd take the scripts home with me, and what 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.359 I would do is then i would go out to 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.479 a football field and I'd say, all right, we're going 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.839 to run you know, eighty two dig and it says 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.560 on the script what coverage it's going to be, and 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.080 so i'd just simulate the play. I would go through 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.640 my reads what coverage it is, and then i'd throw 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.800 out scenarios. All right, let's say it's we'll do cover two. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.000 Now we'll do cover six, you know, so I just 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.840 throw out different coverages. Where would I go in this scenario? 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.000 So I'd go through the script. So then I would 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.880 simulate drives. So you have your first and second down, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.040 like when you're doing your inside run, that you go 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.280 through all the footwork in that period. Then you'd go through, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.960 you know, your your team period for run, play action 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.600 pay plays. I would go through all my footwork and 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.200 that would I'd be thinking what I audible any plays 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.880 against the defense we were against. Then I'd go through 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.720 all of seven on seven because that's all passing stuff. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.080 I'd want to know all the coverages, what are my drops, 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.360 what would I check to all those types? And then 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.240 you got your team period. So you just roll through 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.200 the scripts and it's going to give you a lot 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:57.960 of different looks. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.960 Who are you throwing to? 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:02.600 High school kids? 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.480 You could start plucking guys off the street. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.800 With Yeah, I'd go up to old high schools and 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.600 guys would be out there working out for their high 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.960 school saying, man, you mind catching some footballs? 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:13.320 Yeah? 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.440 They were up for it, and that's what you do. 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.880 That's great, that's awesome. That's that's good old fashioned football 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.120 right there. Uh, Tommy, did you ever run the hill 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:23.960 with Walter Payton? 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:25.400 I never did. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.320 I never wanted to because I heard so many horror 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.920 stories of guys showing up and kind of challenging him 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.680 inside the locker room and he was saying, Okay, just 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.839 show up and we'll run it. And there's a lot 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.600 of guys that he left in. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:40.040 In the dust. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.959 And but you know the thing about Walter, when he 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.760 went to run the hill, he was taped up, he 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.559 was spatted, he had his uh kind of. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.080 His running uniform onm that he put on and. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.240 He took it really serious and had those spikes in 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:01.520 his shoes that were grabbing into that hill. And listen, Jeff, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:06.319 if you weren't really honestly ready and prepared and understood 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.920 how to run that hill, there wasn't a lot of 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.880 guys that were able to do it. So one off 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.320 season I went down to Houston and when my buddy 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.120 from college, Larry Morty was Larry Moriarty was playing for 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.440 the Houston Oilers. They had a forty yard ramp that 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.920 was covered an astro turf, And so I went through 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:30.280 a series of a couple weeks of running this incline 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.800 with these guys, and they did a bunch of different 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.880 drills to lengthen your stride, to shorten your stride, to 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.079 power and all that. And so I knew it wasn't 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.800 the same as Walter's hill because his was a lot harder, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.480 a lot longer, and you know, Walter was Walter Payton. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.079 But when I went down and I was kind of 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.920 encouraged and excited to be around some other guys from 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.520 another football team, it was kind of neat to do. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.040 But Walter, no, and I've, like I said, I heard 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:03.600 a lot of Horset. He's about guys leaving before the end, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.840 before Walter was done, and I think it kind of 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.920 encouraged Walter a little bit more to leave these guys 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:11.640 in the dust. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:17.600 Yeah, no question, Jim, what's the craziest training that you 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.560 ever did? Like, maybe it would be out of the 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.120 norm that others would say, ah, you come on, you 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.600 didn't do that. I know it's different for a quarterback. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.200 You know, you're throwing passes, you're staying in shape. But 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.080 anything crazy you did in an off season, as you remember, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.240 or somebody recommended something, I mean it nowadays it could 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.760 be you know, it could be anything. Could be pilates, 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.160 could be boxing, could be I mean, whatever, did you 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:40.960 do anything crazy? 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:41.360 Well? 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.000 Greg Lloyd got me into tea or taekwondo. He was 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.960 a black belt in taekwondo. I mean it did help 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.320 me in flexibility, but I was like learning patterns and 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.960 stuff to get another belt, and I was like, man, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.840 what am I doing here? You know, let's just go 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.240 throw the ball. You know, I'm doing like back kicks 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.240 and stuff. I'm like, who am I going to be 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.200 back kicking? Dropping back on a seven step trump? 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:03.600 You know? 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.240 Sons like enough, But what am I doing? 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:07.439 All Right? Greg? 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.440 This was this may work for Greg Lloyd, who's going 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.800 after people, but it wasn't. It wasn't the best thing 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:13.120 for me. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:14.640 So it was a bust. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.559 Yeah, it was a buzz. All right. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.040 When we come back, we'll talk some serious Baul. We'll 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.440 talk with Grady Jarrett. He's coming up next, the Bear's 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.000 new defensive tackle. Here on ESPN Chicago and the Bears 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:26.800 Radio Network. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.800 Face is Bears Weekly with the voice of the Bears 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.320 for twenty four years, Chef y Chef on the Bear's 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:36.480 Radio Network. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:40.160 Man. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.200 This segment of Bears Weekly he brought to you by 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.600 Igs Energy, Jeff johonny X, Tom Bear, and Jim Otter 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.760 from Serious x MNFL radio tenure Atlanta Falcon. Now a 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.160 first year Chicago Bear defensive tackle, Grady Jarrett kind enough 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.280 to sit down with Tom and I recently, and I 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.520 brought it up to him that when Tom scouting reports 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.000 when the Bears played the foul Fulkins were always about Jared, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.760 like whenever he fa the Bears meant he was going 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:08.839 to be the most difficult assignment. And in three games, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.520 couple of sacks, six tackles, the stuff, three quarterback hits, 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.840 three tackles for lost and a pass break up against 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.960 the Bears in those three games in which Grady Jarrett 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.120 won two. So that was my entree into the conversation 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.640 with a veteran defensive tackle along with Tommy. It's going 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.200 to be a problem, Jeff, and you have been a 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:29.680 problem for opposing offenses. Now you can be a problem 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.560 for us in a good way. How good does that 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.880 sound to you that somebody you know looks at you 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:35.280 that way? 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:36.439 Man, This sounds amazing. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:37.040 You know. 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.600 It's just respect, you know, and always one of the 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.520 way the way that I played the game to stand out, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.319 and I think it has and I just want to 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.920 continue to get better every year, you know. So I'm 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.480 excited to be playing for the Bears now, you know, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.160 bring that energy, that that that that passion to to 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.680 Chicago and try to go get some wins, to go dominate. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.319 As line of scrimmish, did you always know your template 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.400 was going to be successful in the NFL? And what 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.720 I'm saying is you talk about the changes, You're not 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.880 going to become taller, but so your size has been 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.760 an asset to you. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:08.440 Do you feel that? 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:08.760 Yeah? 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.280 Absolutely, absolutely, Being a shorter defensive tackle. Knowing the things 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.640 that I needed to be better at where my some 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.840 knowing your limitations or is a strength as well, because 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.400 you know, I'm gona have to be a little quicker, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.440 I'm to be a little faster, a little stronger, and 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.480 that has contributed to to my game and so uh so, yeah, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.440 there's no secret about you know, the things that you know, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.480 whether it's scouting or people try to hold against me. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.520 But you know, I only can control what I can control, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:35.640 and I can make the most. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:36.480 Out of the things that I can. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.200 And I feel like I've done a really good job 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:39.880 for myself up to this point, and I would just 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.800 want to continue to get better, you know here now 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.319 going in this is to year eleven in a new 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.040 place with new teammates, and I'm ready to just you know, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:47.920 go go dominate. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.880 Did you ever compare notes with Aaron Donald? 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:50.560 Uh? 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.000 Did you ever compare notes? 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:57.240 You guys have a similar explosiveness, size and everything. 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.920 But I mean people always love to throw our name 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.360 in there every time I every time I do something good, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.839 somebody has bring him up every time. So so I 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.440 mean it's you kind of set the tone. Yeah, for 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.400 so for sow for show. But no, I definitely know 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.000 respect to respect everything about him. But I think just 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.439 that that that the shorter, quicker defensive tackle that's explosive, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.600 like a play sideline, the sideline. It's kind of the 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.320 thing with people talking about when they speak about it. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.440 I got a question for you, as a former NFL 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.720 starting guard, how would you deal with Grady? 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.280 Because I always ask him, I hate ooh. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.080 The guy that kept jepping that he was always Reggie White. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.080 Reggie White kept YEPI nit right. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.640 Yeah, oh yeah, but Reggie White's size and power and everything. Yeah, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.800 in terms of I don't know how I would ever 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.160 win leverage against you, because I mean, I'm not that 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.920 much taller than you. But again your explosive, this how 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.960 low to the ground you're inate ability to understand the 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.360 rhythm of a snap count. So I would be thinking 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.720 about all these types of things of. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.680 Worry about getting him getting on your edges. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.560 But I would beg the guard, the tackle and the 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:02.880 center that I'm playing next to. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:05.680 If Grady is in that gap, at least give me 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.000 leave early. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:08.760 Don't leave to early. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.160 And they like to get on me clearly like they 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.600 like to try to give me before I get going. 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.120 So I got to give myself a space off the 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.120 ball a good bit of time, and uh, if I 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.480 do crowd the ball sometimes for a good reason. So 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.320 I kind of at this point know where the guys 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.760 try to try to try to stop me pretty good, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.440 like they like versus like chest punches. They try to 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.960 punch me like in the face, nick area type, because 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.320 it's like the it's it's it's stuff that they be trying. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.480 But the work, you know, you. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.200 Can't that the helmet to the bottom, the tin strapped 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:38.520 now they get them right. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.240 So, because you have so much experience in the league, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.480 do you pay attention to any of the conversation of 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.240 the offensive lineman or the way they're kind of acting 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.960 in the huddle in preparation for mens something necessarily they're 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.240 gonna do to you, but what they're gonna do, uh 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.520 in the next player down. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.160 You definitely pick up a little bit of dialects sometime, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.000 like calls and they'll give you a fake call sometime. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.880 I they act like they're about to do W and 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.920 they'll be like double double and they'll try to run 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.120 a track play of something to get me going up field, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.560 and uh, but I think more than anything, you just 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.480 got to really study your tape and really just trust 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.720 your instincts, because if you get too caught up and 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.920 trying to listen to for trying to cheat code every time. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.160 You could, you can mess yourself up, sleep s up down. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.600 So and then just like us on defense, I'm sure 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.360 they changed calls sometimes the week to week. So if 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.680 you get a beat on something, it'll help you, maybe 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.320 a couple of players a game. But it ain't nothing 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.160 that you want to hang a hat on all games 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.000 just because it's it never stays the same. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.280 I know this is almost cliche nowadays in the scouting world, 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.960 and I follow that considerably, the phrases and the and 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:41.800 the terminology. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.200 But you guys are both heavy heavyweight wrestlers. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:44.520 Yep. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.080 Back in the day, ye, it's significant. It's important. I 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.000 look at offensive line. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:51.000 If they get a wrestler, I know, we got we 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.960 got some good hand fighting, we got some strength. They 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.000 care about the weight room, the leverage. It is that beneficial. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:58.840 Was that beneficial? 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.720 I absolutely think it was definite. It was beneficial. Being 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.400 a wrestling high school. I think just the principles of it, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.640 whether it's just from the mindset just disciplined mindset of competing. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.399 Like you said, the training is different, you know, the 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.440 competition is different. You only got, you know too, three 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.200 rounds of like two minutes, so it's like you're pushing 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.240 yourself to the max, you know what I'm saying, to 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.720 try to be another man one on one, you know 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.760 what I'm saying. And then just the principles that you 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.879 learn from movement, leverage, stuff like that just kind of 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.399 naturally trans over to the football field, especially for linemen. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.560 And and so I think that's something that I was 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.760 like redirected in through coming up through school. I never 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.320 was like I want to be in a wrestling team. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.280 The truth of the matter was I was trying to 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.240 be on the basketball team in middle school and got. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.320 Cut, unlike Michael Jordan got. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.280 So I pivoted went to wrestling, and it's really helped 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:51.359 me in my football career. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:52.800 Everything happen for a reason. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.800 And I'm a big advocate of you know, wrestling, even 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.240 I mean even just as you know, child development. I 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.840 think it helps them with the confidence and gets competing 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.760 doing some doing some stuff and you know, just learning 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.480 how to protect yourself a little bit. Sometime you get grappling. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:07.760 So I mean, it's just awesome. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.239 So your dad played in the NFL great linebacker from 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.320 the Atlanta Falcons. First, what did he teach you about 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.160 how to play the position? And does he tell you 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.439 that the defensive tackle position is the most important to 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:21.960 middle linebackers success? 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:24.120 Not necessarily? 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.200 You know, our relationship growing up was good. I didn't 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.680 grow up in the same householders and so we really 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.520 didn't talk ball much at all, if ever, but he 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.120 had to have a great, great career with the Falcons, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:38.280