WEBVTT - In Brazil, A Tale as Old as Colonization: Why Indigenous Land Defenders Are Particularly Targeted by Extractive Industries

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<v Speaker 1>A theme that comes up over and over again if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at environmental protest throughout history is the way

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<v Speaker 1>it often intersects with the fight for indigenous sovereignty and

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<v Speaker 1>the way that makes the backlash to protest more severe.

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<v Speaker 1>From Ochetti Chakwan people in the US to the Wetsuweten

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada, the link of people in Honduras the Tuhoi

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<v Speaker 1>in New Zealand. Indigenous led efforts to stop environmentally harmful

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<v Speaker 1>projects often help drive wider movements for Native people's rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and when the backlash comes, efforts to repress environmental activism

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<v Speaker 1>end up targeting indigenous rights movements too.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Nick ASTs I am an assistant professor American

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<v Speaker 2>Indian Studies at the University of Minnesota, co founder of

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<v Speaker 2>That Nation. I'm also an Enrold member of the Lower

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<v Speaker 2>Brules Siu tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Astes was deeply involved in protests at the Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rocksioux Indian Reservation against the Dakota Access Pipeline, which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people pinpoint as a key starting point of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern climate movement in the US, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really big deal. Thousands of people from all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world showed up in North Dakota to protest the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline and stand up for Indigenous land and water rights.

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<v Speaker 1>There were celebrities there too, politicians. Alexandria Okazio Cortes has

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<v Speaker 1>cited it as the moment that sort of radicalized her

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<v Speaker 1>in the climate fight. People camped out for months, They

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<v Speaker 1>participated in multiple direct actions, and the police response was intense.

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<v Speaker 1>There was militarized gear and helicopters, attack dogs, private security

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<v Speaker 1>forces from the pipeline company, and even counter insurgency tactics

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<v Speaker 1>that were being used to try to deter and suppress protest.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock protests were also explicitly cited when politicians started

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<v Speaker 1>to pass laws criminalizing protests in the years following it.

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<v Speaker 1>It became a verb people said they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get Standing rocked. Despite its significance, Es does sees Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock as more of a continuation of a century's long

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<v Speaker 1>battle for indigenous sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 2>This country not only exported war, but had been sort

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<v Speaker 2>of founded on a longer war called the US Indian

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<v Speaker 2>Wars the nineteenth century. I would argue that it continued

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<v Speaker 2>very much into the twentieth century, and the manifestations of

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<v Speaker 2>which are also very prevalent. In the way that police

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<v Speaker 2>agencies throughout the country track, surveil and police Indigenous led movements.

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<v Speaker 1>He also sees it as the culmination of a more

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<v Speaker 1>recent fight to protect Native land and water rights that

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<v Speaker 1>have been going on for several years. Before the Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock protest began in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the early twenty tens, I had been getting

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<v Speaker 2>involved in local tribal politics and things that were happening

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<v Speaker 2>on the reservations. There were other protests that were going on.

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<v Speaker 2>The IRS threatened to seize land from the Crow Creek

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<v Speaker 2>Sioux Tribe, and it was in the middle of winter.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Brandon Sazu, who was a tribal chairman at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. He later went to Standing Rock. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was in a trailer by himself in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a snowstorm, and we used to go and bring

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<v Speaker 2>him coffee, and he was on a trailer on that

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<v Speaker 2>land that they were supposed to seize.

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<v Speaker 1>Sazu camped out in that trailer to block the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>from seizing the land it was on. And during those

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<v Speaker 1>same years there were various fights over tribal water rights too.

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<v Speaker 2>There was always a question around the jurisdiction over the

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<v Speaker 2>River control of the river and water rights, especially for

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakota To and Dell Khota reservations on Mini Shoche

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<v Speaker 2>the Missouri River, and there was a consciousness around it

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<v Speaker 2>because the Army corp of Engineers kind of abolished our

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<v Speaker 2>jurisdiction and then asserted its own and then sort of

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<v Speaker 2>has say over flowage and what kind of erosion prevention

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<v Speaker 2>are put on the river. And it may seem like

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a mundane kind of thing, but back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven there was massive flooding in the Missouri River

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<v Speaker 2>basin and the Army Coorp of Engineers sort of patted

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<v Speaker 2>itself on the back and said, hey, we did a

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<v Speaker 2>really good job managing the floods and had it not

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<v Speaker 2>been for these dams, we would have lost lives. And

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<v Speaker 2>there were no lives lost. But that's actually not true.

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<v Speaker 2>There were at least half a dozen lives lost in

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<v Speaker 2>my reservation because of infrastructure being damaged because of floods.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were these long standing issues between the tribes

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<v Speaker 1>and the US government over water rights. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven, the Keystone Excel pipeline united indigenous opponents in

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<v Speaker 1>the US and Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>You had tribes coming from our first nations, coming from

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<v Speaker 2>Canada and talking about the destruction of their homelands from

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<v Speaker 2>Tarzan's extraction that was happening in Alberta, and they signed

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<v Speaker 2>a treaty to protect the sacred down in the Hunkdawah

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<v Speaker 2>country on the Inkton Reservation, where they all committed, including

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<v Speaker 2>the Great Plains Tribal Chairman's Association which our tribe is

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<v Speaker 2>Party two, as well to prevent Tarzan's transportation cross a

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<v Speaker 2>treaty territories. But that's a pretty bold move. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like very few things in Indian country that unite

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<v Speaker 2>grassroots people and tribal chairmans like that we can all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of agree on.

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<v Speaker 1>That fight was ultimately successful, but it went back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth for a decade. I and just finally canceled the

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<v Speaker 1>permit for the Keystone Excel pipeline in twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course five years before that, Standing Rock began.

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<v Speaker 2>Standing Rock is an interesting case because Standing Rock, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>historically has been united in the sense that it allies itself,

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<v Speaker 2>The council allies itself with the grassroots people, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they were you know, inviting people in. We didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>show up uninvited. There was a public invitation and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a public sort of hosting of people in this particular space,

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<v Speaker 2>and they found land that was belonging to the Core

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<v Speaker 2>of Engineers that you know, we we had never formally

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<v Speaker 2>ceded to the Core of Engineers. So when we look

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<v Speaker 2>at Standing Rock in that in that context, just by

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<v Speaker 2>asserting treaty authority, just by asserting our right to exist

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<v Speaker 2>and to you know, live by the laws that we

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<v Speaker 2>determined for ourselves, not somebody from the outside, that becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal act. It's actually just like criminalizing Deocheti Shakoye

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<v Speaker 2>train to make being a water protector in an illegal act.

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<v Speaker 1>The intense push by the fossil fuel industry to criminalize

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<v Speaker 1>protest in the wake of Standing Rock was very much

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<v Speaker 1>in line with how the industry has dealt with indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>protests in other countries, so much so that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a topic of conversation around the fire at one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Standing Rock protest camps.

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<v Speaker 3>So in twenty sixteen, I visited Standing Rock during the

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<v Speaker 3>height of the protests against the Code Access pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Lindsay Ophrius, an anthropologist and documentary filmmaker who's

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<v Speaker 1>making a film about how laws are used to suppress protests.

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<v Speaker 1>She traveled to Standing Rock with two land defenders and

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<v Speaker 1>leaders of the Sequoia people in Ecuador who had been

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<v Speaker 1>fighting first Texaco and then Chevron over oil spilled and

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<v Speaker 1>dumped throughout the Amazon there for decades.

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<v Speaker 3>So two of those people, Umberto Piaguaffe and Hornman zan Brano.

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<v Speaker 3>I went with them to Standing Up in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the idea was for coalition building.

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<v Speaker 3>And also trying to think about what is possible outside

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<v Speaker 3>or beyond the whole wartex of the law that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of sucks everything into it. And so something that I

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<v Speaker 3>will always remember is that around the fire went evening

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, everybody would come and sider around the

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<v Speaker 3>fire and share stories, and Bertha and Carmon gave kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like a warning about what they had gone through,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that it's likely to come to pass

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<v Speaker 3>once again now that this RICO precedent has been set.

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<v Speaker 1>RICO, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, was created

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<v Speaker 1>to prosecute the mafia in the US. It's been used

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<v Speaker 1>in civil cases too, to go after white collar crime

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<v Speaker 1>and prosecute corporate corruption. It had some surprising usage in

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<v Speaker 1>legal battles around climate change and protest as well. It

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<v Speaker 1>was used against Umberto and Carmen and their co plaintiffs

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<v Speaker 1>in Ecuador to block them from collecting a settlement after

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<v Speaker 1>they defeated Chevron in court. That case stemmed from a

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<v Speaker 1>decades long fight with first Texaco and then Chevron. It

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<v Speaker 1>began all the way back in the nineteen sixties when

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<v Speaker 1>the American oil company Texico brought the oil business deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the Ecuadorian Amazon, disrupting centuries of indigenous culture and tradition.

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<v Speaker 4>The indigenous peoples in the Amazon, the Warani, the Kofar,

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<v Speaker 4>and other indigenous peoples. They lived in a pristine rainforest

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<v Speaker 4>environment prior to the arrival of Texaco and the oil

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<v Speaker 4>boomen in Ecuador in the nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Marcos Oriana, an international law expert, professor at

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<v Speaker 1>American University and the UN Special Rapperture on Toxics and

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<v Speaker 1>Human Rights.

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<v Speaker 4>The extraction of oil by tex and Petro Ecuador was

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<v Speaker 4>without regard to the protection of the environment. It was

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<v Speaker 4>without regard to the rights of affected indigenous peoples. First

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<v Speaker 4>operated by Texaco as I mentioned, and then taken over

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<v Speaker 4>by Petro Ecuador. Oil operations severely impacted indigenous people's traditional lands.

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<v Speaker 4>The oil boom in Ecuador has imposed loss of life, health, territory,

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<v Speaker 4>and culture. Indigenous peoples have not received reparation for the

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<v Speaker 4>violation of their rights.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Sequoia and Kofan tribes banded together with local

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<v Speaker 1>farmers to sue Texaco, which later became Chevron, for the

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<v Speaker 1>damage that had been caused in the Amazon, they won,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the oil company immediately accused them of corruption

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<v Speaker 1>and collusion and held up the settlement. In a decades

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<v Speaker 1>long RICO case back in the United States, they have

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<v Speaker 1>still not collected that settlement. It turns out Umberto and

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<v Speaker 1>Carmen's warning was prescient. Some twenty years after their ordeal began,

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<v Speaker 1>a similar thing happened to Standing Rock protesters. Energy Transfer Partners,

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<v Speaker 1>the pipeline company, tried to use RICO against individual water

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<v Speaker 1>protectors and nonprofits like Greenpeace.

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<v Speaker 5>In August of twenty seventeen, of student was filed by

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<v Speaker 5>Energy Transfer, the company behind the Dakota Access pipeline, and

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<v Speaker 5>this was for three hundred million dollars for allegedly orchestrating

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<v Speaker 5>their resistance at Standing Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>DEEPA. Padmanaba is Deputy General Counsel for Greenpeace USA.

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<v Speaker 5>Energy Transfer brought claims under the Federal Racketeer, Influenced and

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<v Speaker 5>Corrupt Organizations Act or RICO, and as many no. RICO

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<v Speaker 5>was a law that was created to go after the

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<v Speaker 5>mafia for organized crime. And what made RICO even more

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous was that it allowed for the recovery of treble damages.

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<v Speaker 5>So we were suddenly looking at an almost one billion

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<v Speaker 5>dollar lawsuit. An energy Transfer was alleging that our advocacy

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<v Speaker 5>worked to uplift Indigenous voices at Standing Rock constituted organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>But all the court cases and laws that were passed

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<v Speaker 1>in the week of Standing Rock could not stop the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that oil company executives and right wing politicians

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<v Speaker 1>seemed absolutely terrified of Indigenous people and allies of all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds rising up against them.

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<v Speaker 2>The subversive nature being a water protector isn't just because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Ocheti Shakoi was leading this resistance again

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<v Speaker 2>against a pipeline, but they were also creating a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of universal identity that was grounded in Indigenous values but

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<v Speaker 2>didn't necessarily mean it was just for Indigenous people, because

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who walked through the gates of you know, o

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<v Speaker 2>chet Tischau Coin Camp or Secret Stone Camp, became a

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<v Speaker 2>water protector by default.

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<v Speaker 1>Esta says this sort of resistance was prophecied a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The black snake prophecy comes from several sources, but one

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<v Speaker 2>of them it has to do with the mini shoche

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<v Speaker 2>the Missouri River, and there were ideas that what they

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<v Speaker 2>call it inchegular uti, which are like essentially water monsters,

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<v Speaker 2>snakes were kind of banished to the river and then

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<v Speaker 2>also sort of promised their return and they would come

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<v Speaker 2>back as a black snake. And you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people really fully understood it. And

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<v Speaker 2>but LaDonna brab bol Aller told me is that at

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<v Speaker 2>one point people thought it was the Interstates because they

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<v Speaker 2>were using a lot of asphalt. But then when the

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<v Speaker 2>oil pipelines are being built, it was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like in some ways like dinosaur blood.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So the prophecy, as it was told during these times,

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<v Speaker 2>would actually unite people in a kind of historic resistance,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would unite all people, not just the Ochetti Shakoi.

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<v Speaker 2>So as Phyllis Jung said, the Hung Papa oyaate was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the horn of the buffalo or the horn

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<v Speaker 2>of the camp circled the Ochetti shaky, and they would

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<v Speaker 2>be sort of the vanguard of the nation. But also

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<v Speaker 2>this movement, I think there's you know, some truth to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The connection of the pipeline fights to the fight for

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous sovereignty really seemed to supercharge the industry's response, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense if you look at how entwined the industry's

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<v Speaker 1>history has been with colonialism. In his book Anointed by Oil,

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<v Speaker 1>historian Darren Dochuk at Notre Dame University chronicled how US

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<v Speaker 1>oil mean dealt with indigenous nations both in the US

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<v Speaker 1>and when they first started to look beyond the country's

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<v Speaker 1>borders for oil. One key tactic was to connect fossil

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<v Speaker 1>fuel extraction with religion.

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<v Speaker 6>These missionaries are pushing into the jungles of the Amazon.

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<v Speaker 6>They are coming in direct contact with petroleum geologists, for instance,

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<v Speaker 6>the Standard Oil Company, and they are going to collaborate.

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<v Speaker 6>They are going to partner in terms of the flow

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<v Speaker 6>of information, and the information is going to be about

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<v Speaker 6>the environment. It's going to be about the ecology that

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<v Speaker 6>they're encountering. It's also going to be anthropological. Both classes

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<v Speaker 6>of explorers are going to be deeply invested in trying

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<v Speaker 6>to understand the people that they are encountering in these

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<v Speaker 6>regions and all with hopes of trying to get information

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<v Speaker 6>from them to be able to kind of plumb the

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<v Speaker 6>earth in a profitable way. So it really accelerates in

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<v Speaker 6>the nineteen twenties and moving into the nineteen fifties in

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<v Speaker 6>the Cold War period, this pursuit of gold is going

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<v Speaker 6>to be all the more intensified against the backdrop of

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<v Speaker 6>the Cold War and the fight with communism, in the

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<v Speaker 6>fear that Latin America might lose itself to the great

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<v Speaker 6>secular communist threat of the Soviet Union. So oil and

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<v Speaker 6>pursuit of souls is going to become all the more important.

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<v Speaker 1>Author lawyer and law professor Judith Kimberling documented similar behavior

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ecuadorian Amazon in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the groups the by WAYETI. They had no

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<v Speaker 7>contact with the outside world until nineteen seventy, and they

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<v Speaker 7>were subjected to a program a forced contact because after

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<v Speaker 7>Textco discovered commercial quantities of oil and Lago Lagrio, the

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<v Speaker 7>company knew that it.

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<v Speaker 8>Would want to expand its operations into War II territory,

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<v Speaker 8>and the war Any who lived in those areas had

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<v Speaker 8>no contact with the outside world. The company collaborated with

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<v Speaker 8>US missionaries and Nequwar's government to subject the Warani to

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<v Speaker 8>a forced contact. The missionaries would get into planes Texico's plans,

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<v Speaker 8>they would fly over the forest, they would look for

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<v Speaker 8>Warani houses. I've actually heard reports too that they threw

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<v Speaker 8>dynamite out of the planes to try to scare the

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<v Speaker 8>Warani away. And of course the missionaries wanted the Waronis

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<v Speaker 8>to come live with them in settlements because the Warani

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<v Speaker 8>were nomadic semi nomadic people, so the missionaries wanted them

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<v Speaker 8>to live in permanent settlements with the missionaries and the

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<v Speaker 8>cam Christian Texico just wanted them out of the areas

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<v Speaker 8>where they wanted to operate, and you know, the government

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<v Speaker 8>of wanted Texico to be able to find more oil

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<v Speaker 8>and extract more oil.

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<v Speaker 1>What we've seen from Ecuador to Standing Rock, India, to

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia, Nigeria to British Columbia is that when indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>peoples fight back against the plundering of their land, the

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<v Speaker 1>backlash is swift, often violent, and comes with a huge

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<v Speaker 1>side of colonialist entitlement. Today, we're going to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>the Brazilian Amazon, where the uru Wahwau people are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the last of their territory from agribusiness and logging.

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<v Speaker 1>The excellent team behind the national geographic documentary The Territory

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<v Speaker 1>have shared footage with us to help tell that story

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up after this quick break. This has drilled

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<v Speaker 1>the real free speech threat. I'm Amy Westervelt. Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>In the heart of the Amazon, the urdu Wahwau people

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<v Speaker 1>have seen their community decline from thousands to just around

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred people. Those remaining descendants are trying to hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto and protect the tribe's ancestral lands in the Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>which faces increasing threats from the country's large agricultural industry.

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<v Speaker 1>The big agricultural companies know better than to go after

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous rights directly. Instead, they pay small farmers to sneak

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<v Speaker 1>into protected territory, slash and burn, and set up homesteads.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they've made inroads, the big companies come in and

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<v Speaker 1>take over, clearing large segments of the forest to either

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<v Speaker 1>grow soybeans or graze cattle. The documentary The Territory documents

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<v Speaker 1>the fight between farmers and the tribe, particularly under former

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian president JayR. Bosonato, who made undermining the rights of

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous people part of his platform.

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<v Speaker 9>Implifies open gen thank to hedge you mis can, It's okay,

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<v Speaker 9>thank you, pog see, thank God, thank you the hubaba

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<v Speaker 9>from ahad A Florida, Esta Pushiu and Osarkaso de Hichi Simonte.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bita Te, a young Udawawaw leader. He says

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<v Speaker 1>non indigenous people always say the same thing, that Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>people have too much land and that we should clear

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<v Speaker 1>the trees and raise cattle. But I don't agree. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>the forest and the rivers are our home. They support us.

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<v Speaker 1>Alternating between footage of the Urduwahwau and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>settlers and farmers trying to invade their land, the film

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<v Speaker 1>highlights themes we see turning up in every environmental fight.

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<v Speaker 1>After we hear from Bitaate, we meet Serhio, a farmer

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<v Speaker 1>who talks about the forest as prime farmland that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>just go to waste, and the indigenous people aren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything with the land. Sergio says they're not planting, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not producing. All they do is live there. Robert Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>a citizen of the Eastern Shawnee Tribe and a professor

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<v Speaker 1>of Indian law at Arizonia State University, says the tension

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<v Speaker 1>between settlers and indigenous people over living in relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the land versus extracting from it has been going on

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<v Speaker 1>since colonization began.

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<v Speaker 10>The doctrine of discovery is one of the original international

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<v Speaker 10>law doctrines that was developed in the fourteen hundreds to

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<v Speaker 10>control the actions of European Christian nations. As Europeans began

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<v Speaker 10>to sail outside the site of land, they began to

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<v Speaker 10>be interested in acquiring empires in Africa and then into

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<v Speaker 10>the Americas and into Asia. They very rarely found lands

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<v Speaker 10>that were truly vacant. They were claiming the lands of

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<v Speaker 10>indigenous peoples Africa, in the Americas, and in Asia. So

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<v Speaker 10>it wasn't finders keepers, losers weeper. Here's a lost piece

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<v Speaker 10>of property, I pick it up, I look around, there's

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<v Speaker 10>nobody to claim it, so it's mine. No, they were

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<v Speaker 10>mostly claiming settled lands where cultures and nations had lived

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<v Speaker 10>for hundreds, if not thousands of years. The justification was

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<v Speaker 10>Christianity and civilization, and it's hard to even understand what

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<v Speaker 10>that means. But the civilization of Europe was somehow superior

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<v Speaker 10>to that of every other indigenous peoples around the world.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, today it's ludicrous to even say that, but

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<v Speaker 10>those were the justifications. That God wanted European Christians to

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<v Speaker 10>own these lands, and that the Christian God intended that,

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<v Speaker 10>and somehow Christian Europeans were superior to everyone around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>As Europeans began colonizing various places, philosophers like John Locke

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<v Speaker 1>also justified the taking of indigenous lands by describing it

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<v Speaker 1>as empty land. According to Locke, if land was not

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<v Speaker 1>being farmed or used in some other way, it was empty.

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<v Speaker 10>Terranellius is a Latin phrase meaning empty land. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 10>what John Locke was writing about. That's exactly what most

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<v Speaker 10>Europeans assumed. They assumed the lands around the world was vacant.

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<v Speaker 10>They could come here and make it their own by

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<v Speaker 10>applying their labor to it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the territory, we watch as the udu Wawaw make

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<v Speaker 1>use of the land too. They fish, they bathe in

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<v Speaker 1>the river, they drink the water. They weave roofs and

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<v Speaker 1>baskets out of palm fronds, but the forest remains intact.

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<v Speaker 1>When settlers and farmers come in, they use chainsaws to

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<v Speaker 1>chop down trees and light fire to large areas of

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<v Speaker 1>land to clear it. It's really striking to see the

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<v Speaker 1>visual contrast between these two opposing views of humanity's relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with nature. When farmers illegally farm in protected indigenous regions,

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<v Speaker 1>they claim it's because they are poor and need the land.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nadinya, a local environmentalist who fights alongside the Uduwawau

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<v Speaker 1>and has for decades, says the farmer stories are not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely truthful.

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<v Speaker 11>That's well so kid Bragla.

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<v Speaker 3>The CPILO cisspsource in the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>As a good, but they are often financed by Brazil's

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<v Speaker 1>major agribusiness landowners, so once the small farmers complete the

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<v Speaker 1>first invasion into the forest, these large landowners will take

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<v Speaker 1>over and clear the rest. As invasions increase and the

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<v Speaker 1>Indigenous Affairs Agency starts telling the news that nothing is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>that the invasions are being made up by the indigenous people,

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe's new young leader beat the they comes up

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<v Speaker 1>with a novel idea, perhaps cameras are more powerful than

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<v Speaker 1>arrows or machetes. Pulling together a tribal patrol, he sets

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<v Speaker 1>out into the forest, using drones to track invasions, and

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<v Speaker 1>then documents all the evidence. The patrol finds and arrests

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<v Speaker 1>some thirty people that they call invaders that they tells them,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to hurt you, but you can't be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows this is indigenous territory. The media picks up

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<v Speaker 1>the story and the local group of farmers that had

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to take over part of the territory loses

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<v Speaker 1>its political support. They disband. Don't worry. I've left plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of twists and turns out here because I think everyone

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<v Speaker 1>see this film. This part of the documentary chronicles a

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<v Speaker 1>huge win, which you don't always get in these sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stories. Despite that, the udu Wawa's future still feels

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<v Speaker 1>pretty precarious. Bolsonaro is out of office now, but Bolsonarismo

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<v Speaker 1>is going strong. At one point in the film, a

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<v Speaker 1>settler references the Bible and his faith that this land

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<v Speaker 1>is his. When his homestead is found and burned down

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<v Speaker 1>by Betat's patrol, he vows to keep rebuilding it. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>the country's new president does seem committed to supporting indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>rights and stopping deforestation, and so far the numbers are promising.

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<v Speaker 1>In President Lula de Silva's first six months in office,

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<v Speaker 1>deforestation dropped by more than a third. Will it be enough,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to watch and see. Drilled is an original

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<v Speaker 1>Critical Frequency production. Our senior editor for this series is

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Brown. Senior producer and sound designer is Martin Saltz Ostwick,

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<v Speaker 1>who also composed much of the music in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Additional music composed by Peter Duff, who mixed and mastered

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