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Speaker 1: It's Sunday, June.

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Speaker 2: First, the Saint Louis Cardinals finished May with a nineteen

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Speaker 2: and eight record, that's the best record in baseball during

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Speaker 2: that month, and they followed it up by starting in

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Speaker 2: June with a clunker and ate one loss to the Rangers.

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Speaker 2: They dropped the series in Arlington. I'm Katie rub that's

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Speaker 2: Erning Michless. Welcome back to Cardinal territories. I'm coming to

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Speaker 2: your live from Dallas left field. Bernie's coming to your

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Speaker 2: life from Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: Bernie. How's your weekend?

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Speaker 3: My weekend was fine. I feel bad for you, you know,

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Speaker 3: scrambling around, man, you bring it. You're bringing back bad

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Speaker 3: memories of you. You're sitting at the at Dallas Fort

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Speaker 3: Worth Airport and uh, you know you're about ready to

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Speaker 3: go into that little I could point, you could point

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Speaker 3: to it if I could get there's a there's something

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Speaker 3: canteena over your as I see you your left shoulder. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think of Margarite is in your future?

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the double? Who's to say?

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you, but you know everything's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, wasn't It wasn't a great series for the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals in Texas.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a fine roach of going three

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Speaker 1: and three in the Interleague series.

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Speaker 2: Who obviously wanted to come out of Sunday with the

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Speaker 2: wind heading into an off day. But it was just,

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Speaker 2: you know, a flat series, and they mid one eight

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Speaker 2: of their last ten series coming into this one. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, they never really seem to play well in Arlington.

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Speaker 2: Call it the curse of the twenty eleven World Series. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but I'm very confident this Cardinals club can flush it

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Speaker 2: and move towards June and what will be an inserrative

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Speaker 2: month for them. Some minor transactions first though, as we know,

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, Jordan Walker went on the ten day il

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Speaker 2: was sitting left brisk inflammation. Bernie the good news here

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Speaker 2: has been talking to Mayor drawing Marble. It doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: like this is anything serious. This is retroactive to May

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Speaker 2: twenty ninth, so he would be eligible, I believe, to

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Speaker 2: come back off the interlast on June.

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Speaker 1: Eighth if all is feeling well.

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Speaker 2: It was just a matter of not being able to

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Speaker 2: use him for a couple of days and the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: meeting that roster flexibility. So Ryan Valad is up, He'll

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Speaker 2: get in some so that that's against Lefty's and just

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Speaker 2: kind of here for a depth piece. The Cardinals don't

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Speaker 2: expect Jordan walkerty to rehab assignment when he does return,

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Speaker 2: so it looks like and sounds like this.

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Speaker 1: Won't be super long.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep our fingers crossed for that, because over the

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Speaker 2: last ten days or so, Jordan Walker had showed some

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Speaker 2: pretty encouraging signs of turning it around.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt about it. Like his you know, I

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Speaker 3: think it went back thirteen games. Maybe you know. I

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Speaker 3: was doing some numbers and his well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: just his RBI production and his power and his batting

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Speaker 3: average with runners in scoring position was insanely good. And

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Speaker 3: he had all of these hits that were left to

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Speaker 3: bat at one hundred miles per hour plus and his

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Speaker 3: bat speeds out of this world. So he's still striking

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Speaker 3: out too much. But the point is you're looking for

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Speaker 3: any signs of progress, and he showed We all recognize

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Speaker 3: that the plate discipline is still an issue, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not papering over that, but you wanted to see something

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Speaker 3: a little oomph, and he showed a lot of that

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Speaker 3: basically over the last two weeks before he got hurt.

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Speaker 3: So that was one of the to me, that was

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Speaker 3: one of the real positive things in May. And after all,

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Speaker 3: they had a lot of positives in May because they

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Speaker 3: had the best record in the Majors in May. You know,

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Speaker 3: it was in nineteen and eight. So I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: this series real quick on this is Listen. You know,

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals since April going into today, since April thirtieth,

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Speaker 3: had the best record in the Major leagues, and the

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Speaker 3: month of May they had the best record in the

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Speaker 3: Major Leagues. And we also knew when they were going

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Speaker 3: into a great, great, great set of starting pitchers. Even

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Speaker 3: Patrick Corbin's been pitching great this year. They have the

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Speaker 3: we knew they were probably going to have to scratch

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Speaker 3: for runs that I think they would score more than

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Speaker 3: four and three games. Yeah, but I didn't think. I

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Speaker 3: didn't think we were going to have a barrage of offense.

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Speaker 3: And it was just one of those series. But you

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Speaker 3: nailed it, you know, three and three on the road trip.

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Speaker 3: I think that's always a reasonable expectation, you know, for

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna have to face really, they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to fight excuse me, face more really good pitching with

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, you think about what that series was

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Speaker 2: like at Coffin Stadium in May. That was one of

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Speaker 2: their best series they've played all season. Very tight ball club,

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Speaker 2: very well pitched, like you mentioned, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: do want to go back to that Ranger starting pitching.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they were really good jeck Lighters, legit. We

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Speaker 2: And I know we're going to get into the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: offense later in the show. Bernie, I know you have

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Speaker 2: some numbers you want to point out, but was I

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Speaker 2: surprised from this performance a little bit, especially today, just

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Speaker 2: a little sloppy compared to the Cardinals defense and situational

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Speaker 2: awareness that we've seen. But when you think about how

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Speaker 2: May went down, what this team did, the style of

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Speaker 2: games they played. Again, like we that they won eight

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Speaker 2: series that just kind of felt pretty whatever. And that's

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Speaker 2: how I felt this weekend, when we'll get a much

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Speaker 2: better test to what the Cardinals look like in this

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Speaker 2: upcoming nine game homestand three against the Royals, three against

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Speaker 1: These are all three very ligit clubs.

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Speaker 2: I'm under the impression that I think we can grant

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals the affordability to flush the series against Texas,

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Speaker 2: but I mentioned to see how they respond, especially knowing

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Speaker 1: Schedule looks like in June.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think they have two off days in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was disappointed because, first of all, we've

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Speaker 3: I thought that they had a fighting chance to win

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Speaker 3: But maybe the thing that disappointed me was Katie, was

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Speaker 3: that you know, they didn't have but Friday's game was

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean they hit one sixty one for

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Speaker 3: So that's not good. You're not going to do too well. Actually,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to sound like a Homer and I'm

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Speaker 3: not actually given how poorly they hit, and to your point,

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Speaker 3: the defense was not to the usual standard. Uh, they

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Speaker 3: actually they actually did well to get one game there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they really did if you think about.

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Speaker 2: It, right, ten strikeouts from Sonny Gray is what it took.

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Speaker 3: Right, So I'm not overreacting to it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I do have we'll talk about this, you know, in

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Speaker 3: this in this this video, but I do have some

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Speaker 3: concerns about the offense going forward, and we can get

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Speaker 1: Well, let's segue to it right now.

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Speaker 2: First a quick message from Arena Club and then we'll

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Speaker 2: get Bernie's takes on the offense I for when.

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Speaker 1: I'm very interested about that.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: That was from our friends at Arena Club. All right, Bernie,

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Speaker 2: as we know on this show, there is nothing you

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Speaker 2: do better, and you do a lot of things well

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Speaker 2: then numbers and stats, and I want to take a

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Speaker 2: I think one of the better offensive in the National League.

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Speaker 2: But as I'm sure you're about to point out, there

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Speaker 1: What do you got They've had.

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Speaker 3: Too many low scoring games. And again it's okay, you

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Speaker 3: they have those big blowouts where they score eleven or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But let me just let me go over this. So

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Speaker 3: the last fourteen games, the Cardinals are eight and six,

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Speaker 3: and they've averaged three and a half runs per game.

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Speaker 3: They're batting average after today of pray Bee in the

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Speaker 3: two thirties. Their own base percentage is under three hundred,

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Speaker 3: and they're slugging is just pretty much shot. They're even

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Speaker 3: slowing down in terms of hitting doubles. They've only hit

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Speaker 3: they've hit nine home runs during the last fourteen games,

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Speaker 3: and the doubles of Dip two. But what concerns me

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Speaker 3: they've scored one run or no runs, including today, in

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Speaker 3: six of the fourteen games, right, I mean that's nearly

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Speaker 3: half the games. I mean that's to no one's surprised

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Speaker 3: I think they got they maybe no, they didn't get

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Speaker 3: six in those games. So yeah, I mean I could

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Speaker 3: understand where you have some days where you score three

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Speaker 3: runs and I have some days where you just score two.

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Speaker 3: But when you're nearly like half your games the last

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Speaker 3: fourteen you're scoring only one run or nothing, that's got

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Speaker 3: to change, you know, that really has to change. And

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Speaker 3: the last fourteen games, because of the offense slowing down

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Speaker 3: they've done well. They're actually like their run differential because

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Speaker 3: our offense has been so bad, is like a minus

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Speaker 2: So I think I'm really glad you brought this up

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Speaker 1: Well, I disagree.

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Speaker 2: We have thankfully many subscribers who come on to hear

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Speaker 3: Right And you know, and as much concern as I

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Speaker 1: And I just didn't think the Cardinals played that well

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's I don't think they're regressing to

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Speaker 2: But you make a really good point about the bullpen, Bernie,

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Speaker 2: Right now is how do we keep our pictures healthy

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Speaker 2: a spot starter because all of a sudden he's not

436
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Speaker 2: usable for two or three days as he goes in

437
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Speaker 2: to take that spot start, and then you have to

438
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 2: backfill a bullpen that's already kind of regressing a little bit.

439
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 1: You know.

440
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: I think Gordon and Grisceva will be fine. We'll see

441
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 2: him again, but they don't really have someone. While Joe

442
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 2: Jo Romero and Johnsony have looked better, they don't have

443
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 2: someone from the left side that can go and do

444
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 2: what Matts did. So what do you do here? I

445
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: don't think they should take him out of that role.

446
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: My speculation. I wonder if this is a good time

447
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: to see Michael McGreevey take another spot start.

448
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 3: You nailed it, I mean one hundred percent. I don't

449
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: need to repeat what you just said because you're right

450
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 3: on it. That's how I was thinking too. I would

451
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: keep matching the bullpen, Yeah, we do. I would keep

452
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: matching the bullpen. And I know, was it today? Yeah?

453
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 3: Today he got there. It was whatever. You know, he's

454
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 3: good and he's he's done a pretty effective job against

455
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 3: right handed hitters and he's a veteran, you know, he's poised.

456
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about him, you know, freaking

457
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 3: out out there. So let me this way, just to

458
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: echo what you said and add something. If this isn't

459
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Speaker 3: a month to put Michael McGreevy in your rotation, then

460
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: I really don't know what scenario would qualify as Oh,

461
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: this is the time we should put him in the rotation.

462
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: This is clearly the opportune time to do that, right,

463
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 3: and then that way you don't weaken your bullpen. And

464
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: as you pointed out, so yeah, they have some decisions

465
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: to make. Listen, I think the dougout's been really, really,

466
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: really smart this year. I'm assuming they're gonna come up

467
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: with the with the right plan. If they don't, uh oh,

468
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna have to go back to ripping

469
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: Ali a little bit. You know, they don't. If they don't,

470
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: if they don't bring McGreevy up, you know, because you know,

471
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: I know, really I just feel that to me, it's

472
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 3: just such an obvious move.

473
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: I think so too. Again, it goes back to just

474
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: how effective Matts has been in relief. It goes back

475
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 2: to help imperative that bullpen has been I mean, you

476
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: have film Aton looking better Ryan Helsley if you had

477
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: nine saves nine for nine and save opportunities this may

478
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: and what Matt's has been able to do in the

479
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: back end has been instrumental to the team's overall success.

480
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: And I'll put the schedule again because I don't know

481
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: it off my head, but the Cardinals don't necessarily need to.

482
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: They can go through the Royal Series. We're gonna have

483
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: Polante on Tuesday, Miles on Wednesday, Libby on Thursday. I

484
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: think after that Royal Series is when Ollie Marvel and

485
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: Dusty Blake make a decision about when do we incorporate

486
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: a spot starter or if we do. I'm under the

487
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: belief that they will, because you have Sunny Grave starting

488
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: for against the Dodgers on that Friday, so the rotation

489
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 2: turn is over. You can match up the rotation with

490
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Michael mcgreevy's availability, and you can plan it out and

491
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: start planning a schedule where he takes one, perhaps two

492
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: spot starts and keeps everybody on turn and you're not

493
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: messing up his development this way, you're not cutting it shore.

494
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: You can say, Okay, we're starting a rotation over, here's

495
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Speaker 2: our number one. Where's McGreevy at with his workload? Where

496
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: can we slot him in? We have an off day

497
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Speaker 2: on the.

498
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Speaker 1: Thirteenth, how can we use that?

499
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Speaker 2: And it's not you know, it's a little bit of

500
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: a jigsaw puzzle, but it makes much more sense than

501
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: pulling out Stephen. Matt's from a place that he's been

502
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: really good, where they really need him to be, and

503
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you have a hole in your

504
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: bullpen and in your rotation as you wait for him

505
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: to work back up. You know, he's not stretched out

506
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: like Michael McGreevey is. He could go what four maybe

507
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: five if you're lucky, so then you're still short in

508
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: the bullpen either way. I just think this makes too

509
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: much sense and I would be very surprised if we

510
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: do not see some version of Michael mcgreeby in the

511
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: next two to three weeks. But again the club has

512
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: not said anything. This is just my speculation based on

513
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: the scheduling.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and their next thirteen games. To get back to

515
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: what you were saying about June, their next thirteen games

516
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: are really tough as a block because they have, you know,

517
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: three against the Royals, who can pitch very, very well.

518
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 3: The Dodgers need no introduction. Three at home this week,

519
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: again it's the Dodgers. Toronto's not having a good year,

520
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: but they have a very dangerous potent offense. And then

521
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: and then four at Milwaukee, and Milwaukee is making its move.

522
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 3: We were all like, right, it was almost like we

523
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: were looking at well, you know, maybe this isn't going

524
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: to be the usual Brewers version of devil magic. But

525
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 3: they're getting starting pitching back their their bullpen. You know,

526
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: they've restructured that a little bit. They have a really

527
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: good offense that team. The Cardinals are Listen, they're now

528
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: four games behind the Cubs after after Sunday, so they've

529
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: lost three games in recent times. But the Cubs were

530
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: beating up on a lot of marshmallows. So I understand that, Marshall.

531
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, but the Cardinals are an interesting situation because

532
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: it's not it's not just well, first of all, they're

533
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 3: going to tell you we just got to take care

534
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: of our business, and that's absolutely right, but they're losing

535
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: ground to the Cubs and and oh what's behind this there?

536
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: Oh Milwaukee's creeping up now, you know, So this is

537
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be very, very interesting because the Cardinals

538
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: have a four game series at Milwaukee, then they play

539
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati at home, and then the Cubs come in.

540
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: For four the first time. We have not seen the

541
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Cubs all year, so this is big for the division.

542
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: So needless to say. And then after that, who do

543
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: they have? They have the White Sox and I don't

544
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: know they it levels.

545
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: Off of and Cleveland. I think you and.

546
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Cleveland's really really good too. But anyway, this is such

547
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: a cliche, but it's so true. Uh, We're going to

548
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: know so much more about the Cardinals at.

549
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: The end of June, right, yep, exactly who they are.

550
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: We've we've already discovered a lot of things, a lot

551
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: of good things. But now we're gonna just they have

552
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: to They're gonna have a they're gonna have a body

553
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: of schedule that's going to be really challenging, and they're

554
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: going to be really tested, and we will have addition,

555
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: we will be making additional discoveries about them. Whether those

556
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: discoveries are good or bad, you know, it's going to

557
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: be a very interesting month.

558
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: And that's what I think makes June. So, I mean,

559
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 2: for all the reasons you just said, but what comes

560
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: after jeloon?

561
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: You're like, you're like Victor Scott with the younger you know, yeah, Jillu,

562
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 3: I like young young, I said, Jullune.

563
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I like that?

564
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 3: What are you? I gotta work that into a column,

565
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: you know.

566
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: Anyway, Oh no, So after June comes July.

567
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: As we all know, and as we know, in July

568
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: there is the trade deadline, and I think low and

569
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: specifically has targeted the month of June as his decision time.

570
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: We talked about this in April said, we still have

571
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: six weeks or so.

572
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: I think when we see this club, especially after that

573
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Cub series, around the middle to end of junees we'll

574
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: have a better indication of how the Cardinals are going

575
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: to approach the trade deadline, which is so fascinating not

576
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: just for this year now that they're may be in contention,

577
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: but what is it going to do for the future.

578
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: So June we talk about the June swoon all the time.

579
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Speaker 1: I actually think this.

580
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: Shoon will be one of the most important Junes that

581
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: this team plays in a while, because it's not just

582
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: this season's success on the line, it's the future. And

583
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what they're going to do. And

584
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they're sure either, but that's okay bringing

585
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: because they don't have to be right now.

586
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: And I know we want to wrap things up, but

587
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: I want to throw one question at you because you

588
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: did a lot of good reporting on this very topic

589
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: that was in your piece in The Athletic Friday about

590
00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: Ali Marmel's challenge in terms of distributing played appearances, and

591
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: there's you know, two levels of that, as you wrote

592
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: about very very well. You know, there's the thing, okay,

593
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: where where does the runway sort of sort of get

594
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: moved to the side and where you have to just

595
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: try to win And to an extent, you know that's

596
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: happened already with Nolan Gorman because Alec Burlsson's moved ahead

597
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: of her. So and you laid that out very nicely,

598
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: But what I wanted to ask you, now, we know

599
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: that Jordan Walker is going to be out, and again

600
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 3: it's I take them at their word, it's not a

601
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: major thing, but he still is going to be out.

602
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: So what does that mean for Nolan Gorman? Even though

603
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: they play two different positions and one's a right handed

604
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: hitter and one's a left handed hitter, But Does this

605
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: mean Nolan Gorman will get a few more whacks? What

606
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: do you think?

607
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: Yes, for two reasons. One because of Jordan being out,

608
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: but he won't be up for very long. And I

609
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: do think ranval Aide will get at least a couple

610
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: starts in Jordan's absence. What we're going to see more

611
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: Norman is because of what we talked about with Peopole

612
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: two days off in June. The Cardinals were able to

613
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: play their A team almost every single game because they

614
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: had an off day every seven days. And you know,

615
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: players like Nolan, Arnotto, Wilson, contraras Stars, new bar Friend

616
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: and Donovan, they're not going to ask for another one,

617
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: so you could play them every single day.

618
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: That's not going to be the case this month in June.

619
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Speaker 2: They're going to have to work in a rotation of guys,

620
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: so that actually creates more opportunity for Mormon. And Gorman

621
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: is such a streaky hitter. I can't imagine how difficult

622
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: it is for him to have such limited bats and

623
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: come in and feel like he has to produce. When

624
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: Nolan Gorman's got his best, he's on one of his

625
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: fire tears. We all know what that looks like it's

626
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: insane to watch. It doesn't happen as much as we'd

627
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: like it to, but it's going to be really difficult

628
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: for him to catch fire and such limited opportunities. I

629
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: think if there's a benefit to this absurd June scheduling,

630
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: it will be that the Cardinals will have to force

631
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: in a rotation. They're going to have to get guys

632
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: off their feet, and they have such a versatile lineup

633
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: to begin with in terms of putting different players at

634
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: the dh whether you can put Contreras Burlisten, it can

635
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: go in the outfield, Donovan can play out over the diamond.

636
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: There will be a way to get Nolan Gorman back

637
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: in a semi regular rotation, so that will also help.

638
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: But I think that's actually a bigger play than Jordan

639
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: Walker Minor I did.

640
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: And I think June could be the time, depending on

641
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: the amount of work that he gets. If if Gorman

642
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: is going to put it all together, June would be

643
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: the month. Because I know people get tired of be

644
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: saying this, and every time I write about it or

645
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: talk about it in one of my videos, you know,

646
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, you got to give you got

647
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: to give it up with this Gorman stuff. Well, no,

648
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: I don't actually because the thing that it is and

649
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: I don't have the updated numbers in front of me.

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Speaker 3: I asked people to trust me because I'm a numbers

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Speaker 3: nerd and all that. But Nolan Gorman, the number one

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Speaker 3: thing that we all put on him, rightfully so is

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Speaker 3: his plate discipline was was horrendous. He has made major

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Speaker 3: strides strides in that area. Strikeout rate is way downs.

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Speaker 3: There you go. I mean his swing miss that you

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Speaker 3: got exactly, His swing swing misrate is way down. His

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Speaker 3: chase rate is at a career low. I mean, these

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Speaker 3: are all really positive trends. They have not translated into production.

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Speaker 3: But he's developed some much better habits at the plate.

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Speaker 3: So common sense tells us that if he's going to

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Speaker 3: break out, given his improved blake discipline, if he gets

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Speaker 3: enough at bets, the time is right, that we will

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Speaker 3: see some things from him. And that's my hope. I

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Speaker 3: feel bad for the guy. I hope he gets gets

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Speaker 3: cranked up because now we got you know, I'm getting

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Speaker 3: emails from fans, well you got to trade him for

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Speaker 3: Pete Fairbanks, you know, and all this other stuff. It's

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Speaker 3: like everybody wants to trade him, you know, and I

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Speaker 3: understand it to an extent, but it's it's still a

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Speaker 3: little too soon, given too soon the dramatic improvement he's

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Speaker 3: made in his plate.

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Speaker 2: Discipline, but we don't get to see from a fan

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Speaker 2: perspective because he's not playing so often, and I think

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Speaker 2: hopefully June will be an opportunity for him to get that.

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Speaker 2: So here what I'm looking for in June, looking for

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals to assert themselves identity wise. I'm looking to

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Speaker 2: see Nolan Gorman's going to get more opportunity, and I'm

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Speaker 2: looking to see Mike McGreevy good at least one spot.

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Speaker 1: Start.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how that goes here as we say here

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Speaker 2: on six twenty pm to you first, let's see great

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Speaker 2: fun as always. I know we got a big homestand

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Speaker 2: coming up, so we'll be back with you at some

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Speaker 2: point next week. I am going to make sure I

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Speaker 2: get margarita before my flight, but make it make it

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Speaker 2: a double yeah, I think so. I think I deserve

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Speaker 2: that absolutely. But for all of our friends at Cardinal Territory,

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Speaker 2: thanks as always for watching. You can get find Bernie everywhere,

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Speaker 2: follow him on Twitter. I strongly strongly encourage while he

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Speaker 2: does so many things well. The noon we talked about

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Speaker 2: this before the noon on Tuesday segment on kmlex Gashouse

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Speaker 2: Game with Olie Marmel is some of the best inside journalism,

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Speaker 2: inside interviews you're going to get in the game Burnage

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Speaker 2: with a fantastic job with Ali and that spot and

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Speaker 2: Cardinal stands. I really encourage you to listen because you're

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Speaker 2: going to see a side that we see of Ali

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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's so.

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Speaker 2: Much easier to understand where he's coming from in his

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Speaker 2: mindset and thinking things through. And he really does not

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Speaker 2: shy away from any question. So if you're still unsure

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Speaker 2: but where Alling Marble is in a manager, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying you have to like him. I'm not saying you

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Speaker 2: have to think that he's a good manager. I am

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Speaker 2: saying I think you've probably learned some things about him

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Speaker 2: if you hop on Bernie's show Thats again that's twelve

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Speaker 2: noon to twelve thirty on Tuesday's ATKMOX.

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Speaker 3: And also if you don't mind me plugging him, I

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Speaker 3: write every day and I also do a video every

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Speaker 3: day at sports hub stl dot com and so a lot.

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Speaker 3: I am a one man content farm. I don't need

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Speaker 3: anyone else. I sit here all day and produce whatever.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I'm I'm glad to be part of Cardinal

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Speaker 3: Territory too. I look forward to that every single time.

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Speaker 1: So I'm weren't grateful for all your work, Bernie. I've

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Speaker 1: been reading you since day one, and I will never stop.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully the month of June brings us even more

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Speaker 2: fun things to write about. May certainly set the bar

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Speaker 2: pretty Hi. All right, Cording Territory fan, I'm setting off,

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Speaker 2: Bernie setting off as well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for watching, and we'll be back with you next

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Speaker 1: week