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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing after a difficult forty one to

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Speaker 1: forty loss for the Baltimore Ravens in Week one against

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. This is a tough one to swallow, Garrett. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Ravens are up forty twenty five, looks like they're in

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Speaker 1: control of this game. Derek Henry fumble changes the complexion

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Speaker 1: of this game. The Bills and Josh Allen come roaring

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Speaker 1: back for the win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game that in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 2: you just felt like the Ravens had I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of Ravens fans watching this game. In the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: you're kind of celebrating, You're up fifteen points.

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Speaker 3: There's a ridiculous phil Jeffia was emptying out.

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Speaker 4: Of the stagium.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of fans were leaving. You have that

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Speaker 2: crazy DeAndre Hopkins touchdown late, you have the long Derek

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Speaker 2: Henry run, and you just feel like, all right, this

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Speaker 2: thing is done.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of settled.

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Speaker 2: The offense was virtually unstoppable for almost the entire night,

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Speaker 2: and then you have that crazy fourth down touchdown that

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo has tip pass completion in the back of

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Speaker 2: the end zone, then the Henry fumble, and then things

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Speaker 2: just really turned and.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a difficult loss.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like this is a game that it's

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Speaker 2: it's so disappointing for a lot of different reasons. For me,

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing is like it felt like a game

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Speaker 2: where there were so many things that went right. It

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Speaker 2: felt like there was a game that like there was

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Speaker 2: so much to celebrate and be excited about and come

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Speaker 2: away with feeling like man, awesome way to open the season,

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Speaker 2: and instead you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It's the same story.

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Speaker 1: It's the same story from the playoffs. Is you know,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you you outplay them and then you

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Speaker 1: shoot yourself in the foot with a costly turnover at

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Speaker 1: exactly the wrong fourth quarter turn. Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: what stings is. You just you know, when are the

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Speaker 1: Ravens gonna stop doing this themselves? They're a great team

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Speaker 1: in many ways, but when you keep shooting yourself in

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Speaker 1: the foot, you have losses.

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Speaker 4: Like this, And that's kind of what Kyle Hamilton say.

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Speaker 2: You know, he talked after the game and he made

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Speaker 2: the point that, like we're talking about doing all the

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Speaker 2: right things, but we're having the same result and we

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Speaker 2: need to figure out why that is. And like the

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Speaker 2: truth is, no one has as like the answer. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of the question, Like everyone's getting asked that same question,

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Speaker 2: like why does this keep happening? Or what's the theme

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Speaker 2: or what's the trend or how do you stop it?

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Speaker 2: And like there's there's not a magic fix.

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Speaker 1: Right, Derrick Henry is not a guy that usually has

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Speaker 1: pumbling problems. Right, Derrick Henry had outside of the fumble,

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Speaker 1: an awesome game. I mean ran for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty nine yards and two touchdowns. Dereck Henry is a

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Speaker 1: major reason why the Ravens were in position to win

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Speaker 1: this game.

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel like coming out of this before that point,

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Speaker 2: you feel like the Ravens are in a situation where

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Speaker 2: it's like Derek Henry is one of the stars of

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Speaker 2: the game. Oh absolutely, I think people are people are

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Speaker 2: getting ready that he's going to be doing the interview

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Speaker 2: on Satday Night Football after the game, after an excellent game,

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Speaker 2: and so it's it's that's what I'm talking about when

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Speaker 2: you feel like, man like that he's a perfect example

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Speaker 2: awesome game in so many ways, but then has the

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Speaker 2: misque at a really bad time, and Derek Henry said

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Speaker 2: after the game and talking with reporters, he said, I

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Speaker 2: put this loss on me. He said, he told the

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Speaker 2: team that he told the team that he said, I

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Speaker 2: put the loss on me, that he needs to take

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Speaker 2: better care of the football, and so he took clear

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Speaker 2: accountability on it. And on the flip side, Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: said he also told Derek basically, don't put the loss

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Speaker 2: on you. You had a great game in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: And so, you know, Henry's taking accountability and certainly as

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Speaker 2: teammates are not piling on in any way.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean what's tough is you know, Mark

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Speaker 1: Andrews is a major reason why the Ravens got as

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Speaker 1: far as they did last year. And then he, you know,

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Speaker 1: has the fourth quarter fumble in the drop. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's even your best players, you know, And

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Speaker 1: that's that's the tough pill to swallow for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's it's hard to fault the offense. They

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Speaker 1: scored forty points, yeah right, and yeah, that's a brutal

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Speaker 1: turnover at a brutal time in the game, and and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Ravens' final offensive sequence will be nitpicked

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Speaker 1: for what could they have They needed to pick up

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Speaker 1: one first down to win the game and they didn't,

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Speaker 1: and and I'm sure that will be nitpicked. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you scored forty points at the end of the day

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Speaker 1: against a pretty darn good defense in their place.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's tough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The offense, like, up until really the end of the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, it was unstoppable. I mean they were scoring

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Speaker 2: mostly touchdowns with a couple of field goals sprinkled in,

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Speaker 2: but they were scoring on every single drive. It seem

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Speaker 2: like they scored on their first five drives, didn't get

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Speaker 2: in the second half up until that point where things

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Speaker 2: kind of went off the rails in the fourth quarter unexpectedly.

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Speaker 4: And it just.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing like for the defense, you know,

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Speaker 2: going back to Hamilton, he made the point that like

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Speaker 2: the defense, the secondary obviously opened last season has struggled

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Speaker 2: and it's a similar thing right now. And Hamilton said, like, look,

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Speaker 2: the offense scored forty points. He made the same point.

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Speaker 2: You just did offense scored forty points. Never should have

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Speaker 2: even been in this situation. When you get forty points,

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Speaker 2: the defense feels like, the team feels like that's good

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Speaker 2: enough to win, right. You shouldn't really be in a

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Speaker 2: situation where you need to get a stop and stop

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Speaker 2: for two point conversions at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: It should just be handled at that situation. And that's

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Speaker 2: the way the Ravens come out of here feeling, and

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Speaker 2: the defense leading the way in that conversation too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think defensively the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The funny part is is like I felt like for

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of short completions they were doing. They

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Speaker 1: weren't getting it. You know, Josh Allen gets rid of

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Speaker 1: they're not getting a lot of pressure. Well, their offense

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Speaker 1: is designed for him in large part to get rid

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Speaker 4: Take two He played touchdown was a rabbit out of

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Speaker 1: The fourth down touchdown was a rabbit. I mean the

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Speaker 1: fourth down prayer that got a DPI called was also

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Speaker 1: a rabbit out of a hat. I mean, if that

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Speaker 3: Like, I mean they just and then he played. He

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Speaker 3: was Josh Allen down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: He made some awesome throws and plays down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: like he got hot. The Ravens defense was on its

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of all she wrote right for

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Speaker 1: this defense, Like, obviously it has to be a better

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Speaker 1: defensive performance than this. Forty one points isn't gonna cut

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Speaker 1: it again. You know, you didn't get a takeaway. You know,

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Speaker 1: malco I had one in his gut on the first drive.

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Speaker 1: You know there were opportunities. They didn't get any takeaways for

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Speaker 1: it needs to get more takeaways. Again, Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: this offense are pretty darn good and they do a

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Speaker 1: good job taking care of the ball. So take that

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Speaker 1: context for what it's worth. YEA, Like, but you gave

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Speaker 1: up forty one points. Yeah, and there's no part of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the takeaway, sure, it would have been nice to

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is given up that many

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Speaker 2: points is just something that's not that's not a recipe

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Speaker 2: Ravens signed this offseason. He dealt with injuries and training camp,

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Speaker 2: but he wanted. And tough assignment again going up against

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Speaker 4: But so it's a tough assignment, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, for him, and and you know the Bills were

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's just these costly let downs

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Speaker 1: in critical moments and that and that's really the part

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Speaker 1: offensively and defensively that like the Ravens have just been

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Speaker 1: stressing all off season, like that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Where this team needs to get, needs to get. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're they're talented enough.

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Speaker 1: We spent the whole offseason talking about how they have

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Speaker 3: I'm writing up the story. Hey, this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: You get forty points when you don't make mistakes and

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Speaker 1: you have the explosive playmakers the Ravens have, and then

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Speaker 3: You know, but like both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the end of the first half, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you let them drive down again sort of fluky,

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Speaker 1: them a field goal opportunity. Hey, that's pretty big three

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Speaker 1: final score. Yeah, Like, just this a crazy amount of

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Speaker 3: And and if you're.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes we in the media like rush

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Speaker 1: when it keeps happening and you're like, what's the theme?

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Speaker 1: What keeps happening? And sometimes there just isn't an easy

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Speaker 1: easy answer, it is like these critical moments, the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Have to be the ones to make the play.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that I like the theme as much

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Speaker 2: as I can see. It is the critical moments one

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Speaker 2: like the end of half situation, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Also like like the Derrick Henry moment that was like

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Speaker 1: At that point you're leading by fifteen, Like you have

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Speaker 1: you also can't shoot yourself in the foot.

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Speaker 2: The Henry fumble was at that point. It was an

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Speaker 2: eight point game, and they fumble at that point. And

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Speaker 2: so like you're in a situation where you just need

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Speaker 2: field when you're just trying to run clock in that situation, right,

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Speaker 2: So like to me that that that is the critical

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Speaker 2: a first down, couldn't get it. John Hartwooll did say

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Speaker 1: The other you know, there's like so many things in

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Speaker 2: Well, honestly, the thing that comes to my mind if

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Speaker 2: And like that one just slipping by has had him

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times that's what it's coming down to.

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Speaker 4: The Bills did tonight.

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Speaker 2: They get the deflective touchdown in that situation, they are

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's painful.

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Speaker 1: You watch the rest of the games around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's like when when are the Ravens going to get

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Speaker 1: It's just you got to have to make your own

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Speaker 3: But you know, at the same time, you just they're

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Speaker 1: You just as frustrating as this one is, which it's

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly frustrating. You just can't let it linger because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and like there is like, I mean, this

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Speaker 4: Ravens fans are gonna be sick about this one.

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Speaker 2: But like on offense, there was so much to like,

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Speaker 2: you know, Henry Head of Monster Night Lamar was excellent.

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Speaker 4: They say Flowers was great.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Luke comes in, Hey, first NFL kick, fifty two

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be talking about how do you fix these

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Speaker 2: And so, you know, John Harbull, the point will be fine.

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Speaker 2: I do think that, like this team is a veteran

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Speaker 2: you twice. But there's no doubt that, like this plain

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, The Ravens have the Cleveland Browns and their

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Speaker 1: I lost to the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Tough one here at high Mark Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Ravens had this one in there the palm of their hand,

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Speaker 1: but don't come out with win.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening.

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