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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is the DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the God.

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club Lawla Rosa Filing. And for Jess,

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Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 2: seemed like he's trying to take our job doing all

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Speaker 2: these interviews and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, we have R and B sigat tag Tank.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take your job.

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Speaker 3: Doing a phenomenal guess.

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Speaker 1: I am just catering to my people, Okay. I'm making

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Speaker 1: sure that my community has a place to go, that

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Speaker 1: the conversation is bridged from the old to the news.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You know what I love about the Army Money podcast.

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Speaker 3: There's always so many hip hop podcasts, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the rappers got a place to go. The O g

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Speaker 3: rappers got a place to go. R and B Money

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Speaker 3: has created that space for the R and B world.

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Speaker 1: And now and now the you know, not too much disclosed,

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Speaker 1: but now the R and B Music Awards. What you mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys have a dedicated hip hop don't you? Pop

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Speaker 1: has a dedicated award show, right, whereas the R and

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Speaker 1: B dedicated award show so that we can cover the

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Speaker 1: entire gambit of R and B. R and B is

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Speaker 1: so many things, it's so vast you can't cover it

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Speaker 1: in two to three categories at at at some award

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Speaker 1: show and think that that's going to do it all justice.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 3: Yet, as an R and B icon like you are,

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Speaker 3: what are the categories of R and B? Because all

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Speaker 3: we think is R and B.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's let's let's do this right, let's

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Speaker 1: go let's go soul, right, let's go progressive. Do you

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Speaker 1: do ballots? Huh? Ballots? What do you mean? Ballots? Slow?

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you mean categories? Do you do

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Speaker 1: army ballots? No? I don't think you do ballots. But

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Speaker 1: I think you get into the songwriter aspect of it,

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Speaker 1: the producer aspect of it, even the performance aspect of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, all of these things are so different. Like

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Speaker 1: a Jill Scott is uh is way different from from

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Speaker 1: a Smer Walker, you know what I mean, It's way different.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Richardson is way different from Chris Brown, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? And so how do we how do

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Speaker 1: we create these tiers and levels to where all of

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Speaker 1: all of the nuances of R and B can be recognized.

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Speaker 1: Give me an example of progressive. Oh c B is progressive? Okay, completely,

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Speaker 1: He's He's the current state of R and B. Me.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Even if we want to

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Speaker 1: what I mean? That's very progressive, very progressive R and B.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If you want to say

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Speaker 1: a traditional progressive R and B artist because I can

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Speaker 1: do a record with Chris Brown. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: can also do a record with God Rest their Stot

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Speaker 3: I like traditional, and I said that. When the Party

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Speaker 3: and Drake album dropped, I was like, that.

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Speaker 1: Ain't for me.

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Speaker 3: And it was like, well, you know, it's for the

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Speaker 1: I just don't like that type of arm exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference. And so we have not we have

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Speaker 1: We just say best R and B album and then

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Speaker 1: with Robert Glasberg. It's like, how do you do that?

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Speaker 1: going to happen. It's been, it's it's been great conversations,

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Speaker 1: We've actually had this conversation with Jessic Collins and so

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Speaker 1: you know, all of this. What I'm doing right now

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Speaker 1: see the value, because that's where it starts. People have

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Speaker 3: Black effect and I heart out the conversation, you know,

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Speaker 1: Show, Well, what do you want to do?

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Speaker 3: I want to help with the Harvey Money Award show.

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Speaker 3: That'd be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like we need a we need a Babyface Award, right, award,

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Speaker 1: which is the songwriter and Producer. Right. You need a

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, right, there's one. They need a Michael Jackson

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Speaker 1: of Jimmy Jametary Lewis because they write it too. But right,

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Speaker 1: you need a standalone producer award. Right, all of these

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Speaker 1: to highlight them. But all of these awards need names

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Speaker 1: from our legends. You know what I'm saying. The R

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Speaker 1: the dedicated R and B label? That's R and B money,

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Speaker 1: That's what we're doing, right. So it's all of these

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Speaker 1: things that we need to now highlight now that R

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Speaker 2: I want to know how is it for you, right

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Speaker 2: knowing all these R and B stories, Right, And I'm

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Speaker 2: watching your podcast and I know you know the answers,

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Speaker 2: but some of these times it hasn't been put out

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Speaker 2: there and you're just feeding the person, right, Like I

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Speaker 2: look at Stephen Hill, but the Chris Brown situation, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what happened, really, I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: he was part of it. I knew from Chris's side

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Speaker 1: it was about to happen, and then pulled the rug

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Speaker 1: and he worked for that rehearsal Jesus. He was. He was,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that, that crushed him

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Speaker 1: more than anything. And he was like, man, if you

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Speaker 1: I just they pulled it from me. Nothing I could do.

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Speaker 4: I was going to ask that you put them on

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Speaker 4: the phone after that, because he said in your interview

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Speaker 4: that they hadn't he hadn't gotten well. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: Like that. So no we didn't. We didn't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to make that happen, okay, but but I'd love

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Speaker 3: Another one of my favorite R and B Money podcasts

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Speaker 3: recently was the l A Red.

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Speaker 3: He really sparked a real conversation and it just had

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Speaker 3: me thinking about, Yes, you need, you need Black Boutique

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Speaker 3: everything you need that.

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Speaker 1: We need to be able to operate the way we operate.

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Speaker 1: Just let us do what we do. Like even with

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Speaker 1: what you guys do. You guys do what you do,

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Speaker 1: which is why it is what it is. There's nobody

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Speaker 1: micromanaging or policing you. You get your paycheck, whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: But it's because of how you do your thing. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: interrupting that, which is why it's what how many years

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Speaker 1: in the making, Jesus Christ, Imagine if you had no

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Speaker 1: control of that, you know what I mean. Imagine imagine

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Speaker 1: you being subject to somebody else's ideas, somebody else's and

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Speaker 1: then you lose with that. That hurts worse than anything

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Speaker 1: I lost listening to you. No, Noah, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: down with me. I'm gonna go down with me. And

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Speaker 1: that's what we've lost, We've lost the people that have

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Speaker 1: done it from here. I just believe, Like think about

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Speaker 1: DeAngelo's untitled. If somebody just doesn't say, ah, I just

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Speaker 1: No more analytics say we're losing here, We're that, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna move on right? Well? How does the Feel? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: How did it Feel? Was the third single?

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Speaker 3: The butt Naked Video was the third single.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I did not know that. How do we not

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Speaker 1: get to That's gonna be the greatest songs of all time? Wow?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Genuine so anxious. If Joe

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Speaker 1: gonna change it. Trust me. Maybe I Deserve was my

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name the first song I had out

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Speaker 1: Maybe I Deserve shouldn't have brought that up when you

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Speaker 4: I just heard the song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe Wait. My first single was called Freaking, and

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Speaker 3: When I googled it and said the song many have missed.

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Speaker 1: Today I was performing the song. I was on promo

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Speaker 1: I was like and this was in the dat tape era,

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Speaker 1: rest is history. Rest is history. Yo.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they give they don't care about.

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Speaker 3: Like what was your first budget for your first album?

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Speaker 3: Like it was a thing to be to get signed

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you like this, there was a budget. There

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Speaker 1: was a number in in the contract. But again I'm boutique.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we were in a position where we

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Speaker 1: couldn't lose. So Verry, you know, Barry, we was gonna

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Speaker 3: years ago.

433
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind put my legs up. You know what

434
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, that's that's okay.

435
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 4: You know you don't like tongue action.

436
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 1: I don't mind, not at all. Down I try to

437
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: tell them all the time. For a girl, each your

438
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: I have your hands free just in case you get tricky.

439
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: The way there you go.

440
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: If somebody brings that up. Now in twenty twenty five

441
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: and they said, thank do you enjoy getting your ass eating?

442
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: How do you respond? I would say that was the

443
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: old me, you know, when I was younger, you know

444
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: I enjoy things and said how I enjoy things a

445
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: little bit too out loud, you know what I mean?

446
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: Some of those things should have been a lot more quiet.

447
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 1: But you know, I think I was. I think I

448
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: was beata. I think Charlomagne baited me. He was very

449
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: he baited me.

450
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: You should give a little fake chuckle question after the

451
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: question is. After you do a little fake chuckle, then

452
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 3: give that.

453
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: They old me I was so wild back then. That's training.

454
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 4: That is because people still bring that up.

455
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: But I think you so they will be a follow

456
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: up question, not going to just let it go. Here's

457
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: the other thing, too, is that you know anything that

458
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: has been put out there, anything that I've put out there,

459
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: I'm able to stand up period tribe. I have I

460
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: have lived and I have lived in front of the world,

461
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: in front of the world for all of them to see.

462
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: So I don't really have any secrets, you know what

463
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean. So the things, those things don't scare me.

464
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm not rattled by those things. You know what I mean.

465
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: So there's that part of it. But I do I

466
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: do know how to divert if I was.

467
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: Bringing I said that because I was going to big

468
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: you up for when it was brought up not too

469
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: long ago. You use it as a moment to talk

470
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: about like homophobia in the black community, and like that

471
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 4: created a powerful conversation, And I was like, I don't

472
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: know if he did it on part it did come

473
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: back up. Who were you talking to?

474
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: It was?

475
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: We talked about it in here.

476
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: We didn't jest with the message.

477
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: You were talking to.

478
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: The holding court, big court. Yeah, But I but the

479
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: conversation that it created, I don't know if you saw

480
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: the conversation, I know you'd be online though, like you've

481
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: been seeing some things. It had people really having a

482
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 4: conversation about men being able to be vulnerable and just

483
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: have conversations anywhere they want to, and and black men specifically.

484
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, was that the media training?

485
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: Was that?

486
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Like? No, that was just real. I mean, that's just

487
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: what I believe. But I also believe that you can't

488
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: really have intelligent conversations online, you know what I mean.

489
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: So as he and I were having that conversation, like

490
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: we were having a real conversation. But in terms of

491
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: going back and forth online trying to get something very

492
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: thought provoking across, it never works.

493
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: They don't.

494
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: You'll never win that.

495
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 3: Also, I think people forget the comedian Tank era. Yes,

496
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 3: when Tank was on stage to an actual comedy, so

497
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: a lot of that was jokes.

498
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: Coming your legs up in the chair. You was just joking.

499
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: You're going back to a gag. Everybody's so serious. It's

500
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: not that serious, man. I have some fun and relax

501
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: every you see me, Every time you see me, I

502
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: gotta smile on my face and I'm having a good

503
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: time because I don't take this stuff too seriously. Man.

504
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: What I take seriously is when I get in that studio,

505
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: when I get on that stage, That's when I'm serious

506
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: outside of that and I'm having the time of my life.

507
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: Why Broadway right now? Because you are featured in Luisa

508
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: Key's Hell's Kitchen.

509
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: And it's timing, bro Because for me, twenty twenty five

510
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: was the hard pivot into acting. You know, the music

511
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: thing has been so much of my bread and butter

512
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: and so much of my focus for so long. I

513
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta get to the other thing that

514
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: I love. And Charlie mccatt had always been telling me, Bro,

515
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make a hard pivot in order

516
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: to really do it the right way. And I was like, Okay,

517
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. And with

518
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five coming in the way that it did

519
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: and having a free moment and opportunity, I'd always heard

520
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: horror stories about Broadway, you know what I mean, just

521
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the workload and the pain to pay,

522
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: the facility, all of that, and I was like, yeah,

523
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: I probably never do Broadway. And then I get you know,

524
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: we get this call from Alisha like, hey, Alisha is

525
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: looking for you to do what And I'm like, you know,

526
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: the name Alicia Keys is already like that's interesting. Got

527
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: to at least see what that's about, right, And so

528
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: I sent some papers over for me to look at

529
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: the I'm like, okay, I'm looking at it. I'm all right,

530
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: I'll go see you know what I mean, just out

531
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: of respect for that name itself. So you want to

532
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: watch the play before you absolutely? Okay. So you saw

533
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: when Brandon V. Dixon was playing actually, well he wasn't

534
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't there. His sub was in Who's Who's Who's

535
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Who's Dope as well, And and I watched the play

536
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: and I fell in love with it, and the next

537
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: day was actually my walk in audition, and so I

538
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: kind of knew where I needed to be and and

539
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: at that point it was just like, I think it's time.

540
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: I think I think it is. It has answered the

541
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: question for me, I you know what I mean. Me

542
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: and Lulu were telling my manager. Lulu was talking to

543
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: He's like, I just it just does something different for you, brother,

544
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: It just does something really different. And in deliberating, I

545
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: was just deliberating, like is this the time to like

546
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: just take a hard left and out of nowhere. Charlie

547
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: Matt cost Me hadn't talked to in a minute, and

548
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: he's like, what's going on wrong. I was like nothing,

549
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm just just chilling. He wanted to come to my

550
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: Atlantic City show. I'm like, I got you, love, he said,

551
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: I said the magic question. I got this on the

552
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: table right now. And he said, what the fuck are

553
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: we talking about? I said, well, I'm asking you. You

554
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: don't need my opinion. You know what you're supposed to do.

555
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: There was that here I am. And so you know

556
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: when I said, I said with Alisha the other day

557
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: learning Adam Blackstone, and she was like, tank, I just

558
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: felt like it was you. It's like, I didn't know why.

559
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: She's like it was it just to me, it just

560
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: felt like it was you. And She's like, I didn't

561
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: even know if he could act. And I was like, wow,

562
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: you ain't. You ain't seeing me on Lifetime or BT

563
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying a TV one, I'm the

564
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Denzel of that space. You know what I'm saying, I'm

565
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: a Denzel of that space. You ain't sing none of that.

566
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 1: But she had never seen me act, and she was like,

567
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: and then when I saw you in the audition, she

568
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,719
Speaker 1: was like, I was just blown away. And I was like, no,

569
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: that's that's what I do. Singing is that's whatever. And

570
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: so she and I went back and forth, singing back

571
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: and forth, her, you know, singing her amazing catalog and

572
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: my debut on Tuesday. And so now it's like, how

573
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: tough it's real?

574
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: How tough is it to rehearsals? And do you have

575
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: to shut everything else off? And do you need time

576
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: for yourself now? Because it just seems like a does

577
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: it stop.

578
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm a machine, So I'm a routine guy, you know

579
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm gonna get up, help get

580
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: the kids to school, do cardio, eat, go to the gym,

581
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: do the second lift, go to the studio, either work

582
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: on music or do pod get back, eat, dinner with

583
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the family, get some lifetime in, and the next day

584
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I'm a machine. I'm built like that.

585
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: So Broadway schedule works perfect for who I am now

586
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: eight shows a week crazy. That's where it get different

587
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: because you know they call it. You know, you have

588
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: an A show, a B show, and a C show. In

589
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: terms of how you perform. I've never been able to

590
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: do a B show and feel good about it, like

591
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: because all of those people, whether it's a Wednesday or Saturday,

592
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: they spent their money to see something great. They spent

593
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: their money to see somebody go all out. So I'm

594
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: doing a shows from Tuesday to Sunday. And we got

595
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: one day off that's Monday, and right back to it.

596
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: What's your rest day? Like on a Monday?

597
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Like I just so I'm going to have my first

598
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Monday next to the next Monday. Nothing, go to the gym,

599
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, he eats, eat some cool

600
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: food somewhere. You know, maybe keep it Charlomagne and my

601
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: heart and talk about this's awards. What about the family? Like,

602
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: because family was just here. They came for the for

603
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the for the debut, My mom and then came up,

604
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: wife zoeian Zion came up, and it was really it

605
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: was really really cool. Man.

606
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: The thirteen weeks is a long time to be away

607
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: from them, especially if you've got a routine.

608
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Like you say, it's it's tougher for them than it

609
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: is for me because for me, I'm you know, I'm

610
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: hyper focused. I'm in it, and I have something to

611
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: do every day, something to look forward to. And so

612
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, the wife is at home doing the kid

613
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: thing and all that. But that's why, you know, that's

614
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: what it is. It's a teen she holds that down.

615
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold this down. But this to me is

616
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: like was the opportunity for people in that space to

617
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: understand that I'm serious about going here. You know, Kevin

618
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: was in town the other day, so when it you know,

619
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: saw him and chopped it up with him and he

620
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: was like, I'm really really proud of you for making

621
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: this move. It says a lot about the next level

622
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: of where you can go and who you can be.

623
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm looking forward to. I'm loving

624
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: like all the horror stories that they told me about Broadway,

625
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: they lied to me. They were trying to keep me

626
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: out of here. They didn't want me just you know,

627
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: pay the facility, the workload and all these things. Oh yeah,

628
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: take you know that's not for you, you know, Oh.

629
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: Man, I think it's a different day and age as

630
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: far as like work rules and stuff. But also to

631
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: you're like, you're I don't know if this is true,

632
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: but I would feel like, because your tank, you're coming

633
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: into it a little bit differently, where like they can't

634
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: really play around with certain people too much.

635
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Now, well, I don't know. Of course, this is my

636
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: first time doing it, and I think, you know, yeah,

637
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: it's Tank. I'm always going to be received differently, but

638
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I haven't desired, I haven't asked to be treated differently,

639
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, where they would maybe try to make concessions

640
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: for me, and it's and certain things like no, I

641
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't want to feel like that.

642
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. Like as soon as

643
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I walked in, I'm like, hey, guys, coach me hard,

644
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: like don't don't don't handle me with kid gloves like

645
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm an athlete first, you know what I'm saying, like

646
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: like like like let's cuss, let's really get into the

647
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Speaker 1: ship of how this ship works, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: And let's really grind it out, like don't don't treat

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Speaker 1: me like and don't do that. And so once we

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Speaker 1: established that, we got to work. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: want none of that preferential treatment. I'm new to Broadway,

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Speaker 1: so I'm here to learn your ways, not vice versa.

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Speaker 1: And so that's how I kind of introduce myself into

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Speaker 1: the situation. And once you do that, everybody can They

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Speaker 1: can be and do what they're supposed to do to

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Speaker 1: get me where I need to be to be part

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Speaker 1: of something great.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting because I remember on R and

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Speaker 3: B Money podcast one time you said Jamie Fox had

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Speaker 3: to keep you from quitting music. Yeah, and the way

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Speaker 3: you in here talking about acting right now, you sound

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Speaker 3: you got a new.

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Speaker 1: Boo, got it in love, cuddle it, caud feet to feet,

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Speaker 1: go to the side, or like you don't love music, No,

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Speaker 1: more do I absolutely love me.

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Speaker 3: You don't love the music business.

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Speaker 1: For me? The music business is amazing. Okay, okay, but

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Speaker 1: it's not all that I do, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And so you know the thing about me that you know,

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Speaker 1: even retiring at one point was just I couldn't find

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Speaker 1: you know, in losing my hearing and getting vertigo, I

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Speaker 1: felt like I was running out of time, and it

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Speaker 1: was so many other things I wanted to do. So

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Speaker 1: are the many of the things that I loved that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. And then I was just

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Speaker 1: blessed with the you know, the age old concept of

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Speaker 1: time management. Simple. It sounds simple, but it's not, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so it's like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: for these three months, this is all I'll be doing. Well.

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Speaker 1: I'll be leaving a lot of money on the table, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But will I be growing abs look.

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Speaker 4: And positioning yourself very well? I think I haven't seen it,

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Speaker 4: but I can imagine you on Broadway, but just because

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Speaker 4: of how your voice is.

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Speaker 1: When are your guys coming? I love Broadway. I'm coming.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely in the next week or so. Well. I

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Speaker 1: have eight shows a week. I'm only off on Monday.

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Speaker 1: So whenever you guys come, we'll set up.

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Speaker 3: I saw Stephanie Mills was on Broadway. She was on

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Speaker 3: a Damn I forgot what the show was called.

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Speaker 1: And I saw Stephanie Mills on Broadway. Yeah, she was amazing.

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Speaker 1: You got you're gonna love it. Bring it, bring it,

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Speaker 1: Bring your kids.

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Speaker 2: I take my kids off to the Lion's King, the

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Speaker 2: Michael whatever, the kid friendly Broadway Place.

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Speaker 1: Incredible. My seventeen year old daughter and my ten year

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Speaker 1: old son at the time of their lives in this play.

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Speaker 1: Alicia is seventeen, so it's really like it really meets

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Speaker 1: these kids where they are. It's incredible. My daughter was

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Speaker 1: crying and I was like it was it was a thing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, coming out afterwards and seeing so many

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Speaker 1: kids and signing autographs for kids, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: One of one of one of our one of our

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Speaker 1: stars in the play, Keisha, she had a she had

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Speaker 1: an acting school. These kids, these students that she works

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Speaker 1: with that came up from New Mexico and there's a

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Speaker 1: kids and they loved every minute of it. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm like any high school in this New York,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey Pennsylvani in this area. They should be having

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Speaker 1: a field trip to see Hell's Kitchen. To me, it

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Speaker 1: is it is that impactful of a moment for for

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Speaker 1: young kids to see that are inspired aspiring to do anything.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta shows the night. Yeah, oh ship chen.

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Speaker 3: One one thing to Saturday, April twenty sixth and the

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Speaker 3: third Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival.

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Speaker 1: Yea make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Saturday taking Jay Valentine is gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: He's got I'll be there. Got one day off, that's okay,

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Speaker 1: just making sure one day you have.

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Speaker 3: Y'all thought about what that's gonna look like live R

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Speaker 3: and B Money podcast on stage.

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Speaker 1: Nope, Nope. We're thinking about it though, because it's got

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Speaker 1: to be sexy. You know what I'm saying. You know,

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Speaker 1: y'all gonna be singing. I'm hearing, guest, I've seen you

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Speaker 1: in person. We can't do the pod. How come I

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Speaker 1: got to sing? You said?

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Speaker 4: Was wondering because I've seen you. And when you came

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Speaker 4: back after you said you were retiring, you did something

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Speaker 4: to the Peppermint Club and Jamie Fox was there.

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Speaker 1: That's my album release, Yeah that I was there.

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Speaker 3: With the label.

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Speaker 4: It was my first time seeing I was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was there with a fairly okay yea, So y'all

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Speaker 4: gonna be singing, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: I just want to podcast. Man, he's seen you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. It seems podcast the spirit moves them. If

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Speaker 1: the if this, if you know, if it moves me,

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Speaker 1: then I promise you, yeah, you know, we gotta we gotta,

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Speaker 1: we gotta figure out what that's going because this will

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Speaker 1: be you know, this will be our first time doing

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Speaker 1: it like we do it, first time doing it live. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've done R and B Live, R and B Money Live,

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Speaker 1: the event where it's been strictly catered, where it's banned

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Speaker 1: DJ you know, karaoke vibes like that, really really dope.

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Speaker 1: We've done that up up in Phoenix. Has stayed in

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Speaker 1: with one of my guys two spots, so we've done that.

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Speaker 3: But this is for people who like the podcast and

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Speaker 3: enjoy the conversation exactly.

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Speaker 1: So this is pod and conversation. So in terms of

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what makes ours a little different,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we're still formulating that. Well.

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Speaker 3: Saturday, April twenty six, third Annual Blackfec Podcast Festival, Go

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Speaker 3: get your tickets Black Effect dot Com Slash Podcast Festival.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check our Tank in the Hell's Kitchen.

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Speaker 3: What the weisha Key's on Broadway right now.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, brother, I'm reporting on y'all. Man. If

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Speaker 1: y'all don't, y'all don't show up. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: abroad with all the time. That's one of my I

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Speaker 1: enjoy broad with absolutely, and when I'm not here, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I still want to hear somebody say,

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Speaker 1: if you've seen Hell's Kitchen, did you go? Did you

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Speaker 1: you know? Let me tell Alicia in Swiss.

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Speaker 3: We'll meet you up and make sure you subscribe to

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Speaker 3: the R and B Money podcast on the Black Effect

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Speaker 3: I Heeart Radio podcast network.

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Speaker 1: That's right, It's Tank, ladies and gentlemen. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club