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Speaker 1: postgame Space. Our inaugural space is first time ever. We're

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Speaker 1: Our goal is just to basically hash out everything from

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Speaker 1: was your where? What where's your frame of mind right now?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling overall? Well? I guess the first

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Speaker 1: I feel like it didn't seem too serious. I didn't

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Speaker 1: the play of Anthony Davis man his uh. I understand

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Speaker 1: he needs to ramp up, right, he needs time to

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Speaker 1: just does not care right now about these games. There's

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Speaker 1: just so little intensity. It has a preseason type of

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Speaker 1: And again, they have a long leash because of what

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Speaker 1: played like twenty suning games together before he got hurt

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Speaker 1: this year, and then that trio with Drummond they're trying

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Speaker 1: little bit, but uh, yeah, that's kind of where I'm

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Speaker 1: could they do not play They do not care about

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Speaker 1: I don't think they quite understand the gravity of the situation.

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Speaker 1: They're not a good Historically in Lebron's career, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been a good game one type of player, not that

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Speaker 1: he's not capable of being good in those types of games.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's a guy who likes to kind of

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Speaker 1: ease his way into playoff series, really test out of

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Speaker 1: he peeks later in series. That's just kind of been

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Speaker 1: dangerous is it takes away one of Lebron's biggest strengths

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Speaker 1: ability to make adjustments that other superstars do not make.

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Speaker 1: That's one of his strengths. And by putting yourself in

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They are better team than the Raptors. It's

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Speaker 1: that's when it becomes scary. I don't understand why they

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Speaker 1: and it would potentially be in a plan, right. You

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Speaker 1: they're just not locked in at all. That there's still

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a problem because they actually need him.

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Speaker 1: Like the Lakers defend with their guards and with frank

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Speaker 1: lot of us like to create critique Andre Drummond a lot,

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Speaker 1: that's someone's concerning thing with this team. All the other

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Speaker 1: a d doesn't have to. But once the playoffs comes, hopefully, um,

429
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking positively here, Gasol will be that you know,

430
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Speaker 1: defense of the Player of the year, former defensive player

431
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 1: of the Year like Dwight was. And again he's not

432
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 1: the same type of player Dwight is, but just that

433
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 1: experience I think will be leaned on more of the playoffs.

434
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Speaker 1: Drummond is getting these minutes now and Vogol, You know,

435
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: Vogo is a smart guy. He understands, like he he

436
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: knows that there's no way you can just keep drumming

437
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: out here this long against really good playoff teams, let alone,

438
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 1: what what's going on against teams like Sacramento, Toronto all

439
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: those stuff. But again, you don't know, because like you said,

440
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: we need to engage Lebonn and a Dy to really

441
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: understand what's what's going on, and we're not getting that,

442
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 1: and I don't know when when we're gonna get it, honestly, Flow,

443
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: we might just walk into the playoffs kind of blindfolded,

444
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: um and and hope, hope things work. I just want

445
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: to see it look good once. I just want to

446
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: know that it's still in there somewhere. And if there

447
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: is one silver lining, like the one team that you'd

448
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: be potentially worried about playing in the first round would

449
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: be the Clippers, right just because there are a bad

450
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: matchup for the Lakers in a vacuum and so throwing

451
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: in the circumstances and it gets even more scary. But

452
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: the silver lining there is that the clippers are all

453
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: banged up, and Kauai's basically on a minute restriction because

454
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Speaker 1: he's the only with I think it's stuff with his foot,

455
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Speaker 1: and it's like they kind of had had they've had

456
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Speaker 1: some similar problems. Uh, So that would that would kind

457
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Speaker 1: of make it so that both teams are probably wary

458
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Speaker 1: of each other. Uh. But yeah, I would just I

459
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 1: would just like to see it look good once and

460
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: then one last note on Drummond and then hey, everybody

461
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Speaker 1: who's here, if you would like to hop in and

462
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Speaker 1: talk with Roger and I send out a request and

463
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Speaker 1: we'll start taking guests here in a second. Um. But

464
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Speaker 1: the one thing with Drummond that I think is is

465
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Speaker 1: troublesome as far as his defensive his defense translating to

466
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Speaker 1: the postse and is this his reaction time? Um, you know,

467
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: like when he can stand still, like when he's in

468
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: a coverage where he's already in the paint and he

469
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: can just kind of wave around with his hands. He's

470
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Speaker 1: good with his hands. The problem is that he's got

471
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Speaker 1: he's slow. Um, he's slow with like his first step

472
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Speaker 1: and that affects him on defense when he needs to

473
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Speaker 1: be kind of you know defending in space. And the

474
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Speaker 1: example I give is that one it's on my Twitter

475
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Speaker 1: feed where Kyle Lowry is coming off of basically a

476
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Speaker 1: pin down um that hasn't coming up to the top

477
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Speaker 1: of the key and Drummond like sees it coming and

478
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Speaker 1: like right as the pin down is happening, like I think,

479
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: what Nabi or someone cuts across the floor and he

480
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: kind of gets there and he body checks him and

481
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Speaker 1: then he goes up to the screen. Because you know,

482
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Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry's good shooter, you have to be there. Uh

483
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Speaker 1: you know if if the guy who's trailing is a

484
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Speaker 1: step behind but he's not actually there, like he reacts

485
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Speaker 1: and he's slow, he's not Kyle, but he still completely

486
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Speaker 1: leaves the role man and Kyle Lowry drops it off

487
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Speaker 1: to the role man who goes down to the layup

488
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Speaker 1: and scores over a d because he apparently can't protect

489
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: the rim anymore. But the point being is that drumming

490
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: like he's reading the plays, like he knows where he's

491
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Speaker 1: supposed to be, but he just he's slow with his feet,

492
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Speaker 1: he's not mobile. What makes Tread's even functional in the

493
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Speaker 1: Laker defense even though he can't protect the rim, is

494
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: he's mobile, and he plays hard and he can be

495
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Speaker 1: in these rotations and fly around and and and help

496
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Speaker 1: cover for some of his size mistakes just as a

497
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Speaker 1: mobile defender. But like Drumming, it's just kind of this

498
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: like counterintuitive fit with the rest of their defense because

499
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: he can't move his feet uh in open space as

500
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Speaker 1: well as they need him to in order to be

501
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Speaker 1: of any sort of value. Yeah, and then I just

502
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Speaker 1: wanted to like, before we open this up, I think

503
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Speaker 1: you said that the Lakers were closing with a strange lineup, right,

504
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: We have like THHD and and Drummond and a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of the part of that is that Lebron didn't come

506
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Speaker 1: back in the game. But that's another thing. It's just

507
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Speaker 1: like the unsious nous of like the rotations, right, it's

508
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: a lot of experimenting. And again, like they did this

509
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Speaker 1: in the Bubble Games as well. We put a lot

510
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Speaker 1: of j R. Smith, a lot of Dion Waiters, So

511
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Speaker 1: maybe he can work. But this is the whole new team. Man.

512
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Speaker 1: Something I had in my notes here was like, these

513
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: are the unintended consequences of like just tricking off a

514
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of these games, right, is that like you get

515
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: you get really lackluster effort on a lot of plays

516
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: and like we're playing Ben mclimore a bunch of minutes,

517
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: like I just don't know if he's playable, and a

518
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: lot of playoff rotations because of his of his defense right,

519
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: like unless he's scorching hot from three, he's an unconscious shooter,

520
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: which I think is a is a good thing and

521
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: a bad thing at times, like he doesn't know what

522
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: they or he doesn't really have to be wide open

523
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: to shoot, which I think this team kind of needed.

524
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: But when you're like when you're missing, you're going like, oh,

525
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he shot tonight. Um, I don't

526
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: think he he made it three if I remember correctly,

527
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: But did you get a bunch of great looks? Though?

528
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: Where were his good looks? You're not playing him with

529
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: one of the best three point generators in league history.

530
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: Like that's the part that bothers me. I can't give

531
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Speaker 1: up on Macimore until he plays with Lebron Right. But

532
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm just talking from his defense though, Like I feel

533
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: like he gets like he gets back to a lot

534
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, no, for sure he should be playing solely

535
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: with Lebron Right, like he she should not be playing

536
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: with especially when there's no shock creators. And then again

537
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: another thing that like whither we're running just so much

538
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: th H T S screen and roll, which I just

539
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: don't like. And look, she's awesome, I'm super high on him,

540
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: but like again, I just don't think that stuff will

541
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: happen in the playoffs, which again just first is the

542
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: point here? What's the point of this when we're like

543
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: eight games away from when these games start really mattering.

544
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's my thing with the with the game tonight.

545
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Like you said, it doesn't matter in the in the vacuum,

546
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: like it's a loss to Toronto or tied for the

547
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: seating or whatever. No, this really matters in the in

548
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: the grant scheme. But it's time to start getting rotations

549
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: that are going to play. This is still a brand

550
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: new team. Dennis Shrewder's out with COVID protocols. We don't

551
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: know when he'll come back. Him and A d have

552
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: barely got to play together, and Ron and we have

553
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: barely cut to play together. And he's supposed to be

554
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: the starting point guard creating a lot of shots in

555
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So that's that's a nasure here, is that

556
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: we're I don't know how much of this you can

557
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: translate or Bogo can even look on film and be like, Okay,

558
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: this is where I need to change things because the

559
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: effort just isn't there. They're just trying to get healthy

560
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: and get through these games. And maybe that works out.

561
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the healthiest team wins this year. Maybe that's maybe

562
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing. But I guess we'll see. Yeah,

563
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: and uh, this is the last thing I'll say before

564
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: we bring our first guest on. But like it reminds like,

565
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, when when things are not going as planned,

566
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be more experimental. You should go back to

567
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: what's tried and true. The two thousand eighteen Calves did this.

568
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: If you guys remember, they got into a big They

569
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: basically got by an eight ball against Indiana, and they

570
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: went into Indiana in game six in the first round,

571
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: got absolutely blitzed. That was the game that Victor Ladipo

572
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: dunked all over Lebron. And what did they do in

573
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: game seven? They went back to Trisan Thompson. It was

574
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Speaker 1: less Larry Nance, was less Rodney Hood. There was a

575
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Speaker 1: lot of Lebron, Derrick Smith, Kyle Korver, Kevin Love and

576
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: Trisan Thompson. They went back to something that was tried

577
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: and true because they knew that, you know what, all

578
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: the experimenting trying to get something to to work with

579
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: what was new wasn't working. So they went back to

580
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: lineups that they had had success with. And so I

581
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: just wish that they would, you know, at least to

582
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: try to gain regain some rhythm going into the postseason,

583
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: that you'd see more, you know, traditional lineups with you

584
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: at the five, you know, Lebron surrounded by shooting any

585
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: anything that has historically worked, rather than like, hey, maybe

586
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: this will work, you know what I mean? Like that,

587
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that the strategy there. But I'm

588
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and um, let's see, Alex. I'm gonna try,

589
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: you man, let me know if this works. Yeah, that's tough, Alex.

590
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: Can you hear us Man? All right? No, Alex, let's

591
00:26:44,680 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: try Trevor. Yeah, Trevor, what's up, Trevor? You got anything

592
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: for us? Man? All right? There's no, Trevor. Maybe on

593
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: the settings or something. Do we have to I should

594
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: be working. I think there's just some people that requested

595
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: a while back. They are still active Maples, look at this.

596
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Can you hear us? What's going on? Man?

597
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Talk us off the cliff? Man. Uh, well, I just

598
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: saw Vogels quote seven minutes ago. We're not trying to

599
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: accept speriment anyway. Right now, we're trying to win games.

600
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: And that is the scariest thing I've heard all season.

601
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: I really used to believe that. I just want to

602
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: tap in and said, that's the scariest shit I heard

603
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: all season. Him saying that they are legitally trying to

604
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: wear right now, he's not serious going out there with

605
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: Drummond and th ht with six misutes in the fourth quarter.

606
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't who's believed it. I don't understand

607
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: how he could say that. Uh, and he's not even

608
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: playing shooting with Lebron. If you're trying to win games,

609
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: you gotta play shooting with Lebron in a d so

610
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: that he can get going. But I, oh, man, that's

611
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: from okay, So I thought, I'm not being crazy. I

612
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: understand you're trying to get drumming going, but Gasaw going

613
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: from starting center to d MP, is that not ridiculous? Yeah,

614
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: it is getting kind of ridiculous. I mean I hope

615
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: they they're having like some pre pre pregame talks on this, like, hey,

616
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna play tonight, You're gonna play tomorrow night, not tonight,

617
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: kind of like give him a game game off here. Um.

618
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: That that's what I hope is happening, just so he's

619
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Speaker 1: ready and he's he's okay with it. Obviously, his quotes

620
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: weren't that great either when them when the drum and

621
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: signing happened, but but then after that his quotes got

622
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: a little bit better. But yeah, that's what I hope

623
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: is happening. And I mean everyone's professional here. I think

624
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: Vogo is pretty um, pretty good. I kind of explained

625
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: these things, so yeah, but it is weird that he

626
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: got zero minutes to night, but it's just grout patient

627
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: is too much. They have treads Drummond and then also

628
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: eight either trying to get into So I guess they're

629
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: just telling the soul hopefully play tomorrow because that's not

630
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna be trouble. Yeah. I was looking at this back

631
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: to back because if I recall, his best game of

632
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: the season was against the Raptors. If I were calls

633
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: of like fifteen four blocks, U was a couple of threes, right,

634
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: and I am I right, and believe I think that's right.

635
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: And then the first Duggets game they play in Staples,

636
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: that's the best defense I've seen on Yokich all year.

637
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that tomorrow he gets at least a

638
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: good time of fifteen minutes. Yeah, for sure. Hopefully you

639
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: gotta try something again. You gotta try something to try

640
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: to open things up. And and for the record, he's

641
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: kind of turned into a little bit of a Crusoe

642
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: effect from last year, where you know, the BA is

643
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: begging into play and then every time he does, it's like, oh, look,

644
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: mircosols plus eleven again. That that's kind of the Marcus

645
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: All experience. And for the record, basketball isn't that complicated.

646
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Like when you watch him play, like go watch that

647
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: second quarter against Sacramento, just everything opens up when he's

648
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: a spacing every position. Yeah, and then on your Vogel

649
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: quote quote, there's just no way because a D demon

650
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: play any minutes at the five tonight. He played a couple.

651
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: There was one they were just right, okay, yeah, I

652
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: must most of but most of it was drezz and

653
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: a D Yeah, well, yeah, is not is not playing.

654
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: It's shenanigans. Fellas. I'm calling Vogels quote, I'm calling shenanigans

655
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: on everything that we're hearing about the Lakers right now,

656
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: because it just does not make sense. What's that mean?

657
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: What's the fellas? I just I just wanted to you know,

658
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: usually I just sit in the background and lurk, but

659
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: then this conversation was very productive. So I just want

660
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: to say a good evening to you guys. Wonderful job

661
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: with the space. I always enjoy listening to people's races

662
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: and just kind of hearing what everybody has to think about. UM.

663
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: My only two cents on on what's going on right

664
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: now is um. I do think it's a conditioning thing.

665
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans are panicking because we

666
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: are at risk of going into the play in and stuff.

667
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: I got um, so I definitely understand that. But just

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00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: I think Jason you made it. Um. You made a

669
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: good point earlier when you guys started the space where

670
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: and I think Roger you followed up that the drop

671
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: off on the defensive end it's so bad that it's

672
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: almost unbelood like it's almost by design that they're not trying,

673
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, Like it's I don't know

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: how you go from a team, Okay, we just lots

675
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: to the Raptors. Right. This team had I think O

676
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: g I don't know. I can't remember Pascal played in

677
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the game in Toronto, but I know Garry Trent Junior

678
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: played in that game. They had a few other guys.

679
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: I know they didn't have Lowry, but like we blew

680
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: them out without Brown and a D and then to

681
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: magically lose the game in the fashion that we did today,

682
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: at least on the defensive end, you know what I mean.

683
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: Like it's so bad that it has to be by design.

684
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm just calling Shenanigans. You know.

685
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm more optimistic, um, but the other folks um.

686
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: So that that's all I have to say about that.

687
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, it doesn't make sense that

688
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Vogel magically, you know, you have two guys in Wes

689
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Matthews and Gasol who have been consistent, consistently good on

690
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: the defensive end, and you're a defensive minded coach. And

691
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: then we add Andre Drummond, which is like basically adding

692
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: like a j R. Smith, you know, at the center,

693
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: like man, like we're adding guys and then all of

694
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: a sudden we're like, yeah, we're committed to this guy.

695
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna run with him. And I think Roger,

696
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: you hit it on the head. I think if you

697
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: think of Drummond as the Javail role where it's very

698
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: very situational with him, Um, we know what we get

699
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: out of Gasol man the moment steps on the floor,

700
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: it's all positive stuff. So I think you know he's

701
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: just he's an ins eater. He's just gonna eat up

702
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: a lot of minutes. Um, and we'll see what happens.

703
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Think you just need to get healthy. Last thing before

704
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: I get off and let 'all rock. Who's just said

705
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: mcchannon just sweet tweeted COO's said the song should be played,

706
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: So there you go to payers. I love that speaks

707
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: his mind. So that man, thanks for having a man.

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00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Appreciate it. Uh what do you what

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Speaker 1: do you make of Drummond as is? Do you think

710
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: he's completely useless or do you think there is a

711
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: potencial for him to become useful if Lebron in a peaking.

712
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I think Drummond has very good feet on the defensive end. Um,

713
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: when he gets he gets pulled out on switches. I

714
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: think that's an advantage that he probably has over the soul,

715
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: because the soul is a little bit uh, you know,

716
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't get into his stance. Drummond does try to

717
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: get into a stands defensively. Um. So I don't think

718
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: he's useless. I think he has some struggles. I think

719
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: you described a player earlier where he kind of picked

720
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: off a pass from Lowry off the floor where he

721
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: kind of what's it called. I think it was like

722
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: a pocket pass or something to action. He's good at

723
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: picking them off the floor. But I think Drummond's largest

724
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: issue is he tries to play the passing name like

725
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: a hockey goalie does. Like he's trying to figure out

726
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: where the ball is coming from so you can pick

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00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: it off. And so when you run into a guy

728
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: like Luca, like a guy who was a little bit bigger, Um,

729
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: he can seal those passes right over him. And that

730
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: that's a problem, especially if Ad is not playing weak

731
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: side defense. So, um, I don't think he's useless. That

732
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: was a long answer, But I don't think he's useless.

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: But I think he's very situational. I have a saying

734
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: that I like to say is that if you're not

735
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: generational in the modern NBA, you're situational. And I think

736
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: Drummond is a situational player, and Vogol have to be

737
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: really good with his minutes. Yeah, And I just don't

738
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: like the situation that they're also putting him in him

739
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: like they're trying they're trapping every single ball screen with him,

740
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: and they're making him have to like stop the ball

741
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: handler and stop lob guy. Right, he just can't jump

742
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: like that. He doesn't take away the lob. So I

743
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: feel like they are you seeing that same kind of

744
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: thing when you see like the like him trying to

745
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: take away lobs, and it seems like we're giving up

746
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: a ton of dunks um and even at the rim,

747
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: like he's just not a guy that's pretecting the rim.

748
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: And the way a D is helping right now is

749
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: just it's compounding the problem to where like what me

750
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: and Jason were talking about earlier is that it's tough

751
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: for Bogo to even kind of gauge what's going on.

752
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: I feel like he doesn't even know if it's working. Yeah, Yeah,

753
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: So you know, um uh that has that's been sort

754
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: of one of those other things that like it's been

755
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: so bad compared to what it's been all season, it's

756
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: like this is not even it's I don't even know

757
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: how you can possibly be this bad in this coverage

758
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: that you guys have been running all season. So I think,

759
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think Vogel probably has certain principles. We

760
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: know that he has containment principles that he likes to

761
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: have his guards play, like if you can't stay in

762
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: front of you guys, at least try to contain them,

763
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, like send him into into your bags and

764
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think one of the things that

765
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: he's probably trying to get Drumming to be better at um,

766
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: because he does have the hands is at least defensively. UM.

767
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to get him to do kind

768
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: of what gasoldas like Cassoules an amazing trap, an amazing trapper.

769
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: He knows where the passing angles are Drummonds. Yeah, So

770
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's trying to get to UM.

771
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: But obviously, look, you know, if that pass makes it

772
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,439
Speaker 1: out of the trap, you have all the weeks that, Yeah,

773
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: the weeks I open and if a d is just

774
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna watch, people don't get I mean, look at the names.

775
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: I've done it right, Alex lenn Rashaun Holmes, Dwight Powell. Um,

776
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't Bomba the or Magic Kid. It was the

777
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: other guy that they were playing Uma. His name escapes me.

778
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: But every single big man has just you know, kind

779
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: of dominated the Lakers, and so you know, well we'll see.

780
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a scheme thing, it's a coaching thing, um,

781
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: but it's just been so bad that it's it's not believable.

782
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: That's this is the way I have to say. And

783
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: there's something to be said about Dennis suddenly being removed

784
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: from the line up messing with their offense, not even

785
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: because they're incapable of scoring without them, because they certainly are.

786
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean, they want a championship without him. But it's

787
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to go from a guy like Dennis who's

788
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: has who has the ball in his hands so much,

789
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: suddenly not having the ball at all. And then and

790
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, all of these guards who

791
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: have been getting the ball a lot less, they're not

792
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: getting the ball a lot more. And you know, Lebron

793
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: does a lot of playmaking, but he's not a give

794
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: it to me every time type of guy the way

795
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: that Luca or James Harden is so like it's one

796
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: of those things where I think that kind of threw

797
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: them for a loop a little bit, and a bunch

798
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: of different things got got discombobulated, and uh, I tend

799
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: to think that that the talent and stuff is still there.

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00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: My main concern is just will Lebron and a D

801
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: be Lebron and a D. Because if they aren't, there's

802
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: there's there's no point in even doing this. There's just

803
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: too much talent in the league right now. The teams

804
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: they have to go through are too good. The only

805
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: way any of this works is if Lebron is the

806
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: best player in the world and a D is the

807
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: fourth best player the world. That's the only way this works.

808
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be Proke, if you're gonna be the Clippers,

809
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna be Denver. Yeah. I would say if I

810
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: could offer any sort of maybe silver lining for any

811
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: of the folks that are listening that are Laker fans,

812
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: um that that you know I've watched those Kobe and shatyears,

813
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Um that that year after they won their first championship,

814
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: they were notoriously bad on like they were bad all

815
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: season on defense, and this Laker team wasn't up until

816
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: a D and Lebron came back. You know, I don't

817
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: know if they think that they can just turn on

818
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: and switch Lebron and eighties specifically um, but if they

819
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: do think that they could do that, it seems like

820
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to do, because there's you know,

821
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: I think one of the easiest tells is the fact

822
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: that on the offensive and Lebron was deferring a lot

823
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: to Alex Cruso and we was, you know, they were

824
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: running up like a two man game, like Crusoe's trying

825
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: to set up drumming post plays, and I was just like,

826
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: what is it? This office doesn't even make any sense,

827
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: Like this is not even something that we've done all

828
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the season, you know, And so I think that's something

829
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: It's been so different that it just doesn't make any sense.

830
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: That play where Kyle Lowry finished um that lay up

831
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: to close the half, the Brons about to jump to

832
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: defend it, and then last week he decides not to,

833
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, that's interesting, because that's definitely

834
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: a play that Lebron would have made, like in a

835
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: real you know, real do or die sort of situations.

836
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: So we make those players in the postseason NonStop. Yeah, exactly.

837
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: And so it's just, you know, I think all this

838
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: stuff you guys are mentioning is value. You know. Eight

839
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit tentive because of his injury, Braun,

840
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: Maybe a little tentive because of his injury. Um, but hey,

841
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: we we don't have the luxury of having like a

842
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: five game lead over this over the two seeds like

843
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: we did last time. So we'll see, we'll see how

844
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: it checks out. Been hanging out as long as you want, Man,

845
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get a couple more people in here. Yeah,

846
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna call it for the night. I just

847
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: want to, you know, jump in contribute and you know,

848
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: you guys are doing a heck of a job. And

849
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I help everybody listening, and you guys have a wonderful evening.

850
00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: I'll be lurking in the background shore. Oh right, let's do.

851
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's get two people up here to ask questions and

852
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: then we'll call it a night since it's super late.

853
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: And then I'm sure Roger and I may even do

854
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: another one of these tomorrow. Let's see. Let's try DJ YEO. Yeah,

855
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: you're right. I think people people requested a while back

856
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: and probably forgot. Oh goodness, let's try a J A J.

857
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: What's up? What's going on? Yeah? How's it going? Man?

858
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Thanks very good man? Yeah, man, of course, man, you know,

859
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I got I'm I'm kind of stuck on that CU's quote. Man,

860
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, a lot of the fans on

861
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: you are fifty ft Yankosol, he's too slow, unathletic. But

862
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: then you see the other half is just like the assault.

863
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: I actually might be the glue for this team. And

864
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: then that Coups quote was telling because even them, even

865
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: the players, are like, I think we might need Gasol

866
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: out there, you know what I mean, Like it's obvious,

867
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, and at this point we need gasolve And

868
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: there's plain and simple, that's it. So I'm just a

869
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: double check. I wanted to see the actual quote. There

870
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: isn't an actual quote? Is this an from vig Tennant?

871
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Says Kuzma, endorsed giving Marcusol playing time as one potential

872
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: tweak the Lakers can do to get out of the funk.

873
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: There and kind of a no brainer. Get a get

874
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: a defender out of the pain. You might help Lebron

875
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: and a d get going, which you know is arguably

876
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: their most important thing right now, even more important than

877
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: their defense because you can always audible back to that defense. Um,

878
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: just like going a D at the five and playing three,

879
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, really good effort guards at the point of attack.

880
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: But that that quote is quite the quote is crazy

881
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: because it means that we're not crazy. Uh. It legitimizes

882
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: our concerns. It goes to show you that, you know,

883
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: like it, like we're not being irrational fans here, Like

884
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: the dudes, the dudes are in that locker room are

885
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: looking at each other and thinking like like this doesn't

886
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense, you know, and and

887
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: uh and hopefully having cus they're um kind of voicing

888
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: that that that helps put the pressure on a little

889
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: bit um and maybe even if Frank doesn't do anything,

890
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: maybe that pressure helps drumming to play better. I'm starting

891
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: to think that kind of internal pressure is a good thing.

892
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: And we forget Like this team started I think what

893
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: one and six, and I believe that was with Gasol

894
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: at the starting lineup and all the numbers kind of

895
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: bear out that he's playing well and and the team

896
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: knows this. I mean, like like if we see it,

897
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: they see it as well. So I'm, like I said before,

898
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I think Drummons in the Maybe this is just wishful thinking,

899
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: but I feel like Drumms and devailable right like once

900
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs have we forget Javelle started every game last

901
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: year and he drove us crazy at times, but then

902
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs game, Dwight started a lot of the

903
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: games or Jabelle was benched for a lot of series,

904
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's what happened. Now they're still kind

905
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: of playing with fire here. Um, I don't know if

906
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Marcusol is okay with how that is. Playing time is

907
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: going being being pushed up and down game in the game,

908
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: but I still think he'll be a key part and

909
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: the team knows this. I mean, it's pretty clear anyone

910
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: who's watching can tell that Gasol helps his team tremendously

911
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: on on both ends. The crazy thing with the Drummond

912
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: thing is the Becassal thing is he's he's got another

913
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: year on his deal and I'm pretty sure it's not

914
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a player option or anything punky like that, like, it's

915
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: just just straight up additional year on his contract. So

916
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: it's like if he needs to be a part of

917
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: your plan in some in some way, shape or form,

918
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, otherwise, what was the point of doing all

919
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: of this? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think it was

920
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: to please a D and maybe even Lebron because I

921
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: feel like they really wanted a name like drumming, or

922
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: they just wanted drumming on the team, and it wasn't

923
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: really what was best for the team, which for me,

924
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: I think Gassoul is right now best for the team

925
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: because he could spread, He could spread the floor. I mean,

926
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: he could shoot from long distance. Drumming is kind of like,

927
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's just kind of download and he

928
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: either gets a rebound and puts it back or he's

929
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron sets him up and he misses a dunk.

930
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, there's there's no heavy medium and

931
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I'm not gonna

932
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: be it's not all on drumming. I mean, let's be real.

933
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there there's been there's been. I mean A

934
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: D was awful. I mean, he was giving up his defense.

935
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: He don't look like a d that let's be let's

936
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: be real, so I can't put it all on drumming,

937
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: but he's not the team just honestly, it's very Clippers

938
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: right now. It's just kind of like they feel like

939
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: they can turn it on at any time. But the

940
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: difference is they're they're not healthy. That's I mean, that's

941
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: get serious. They're not healthy. And the thought of them

942
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: they think that, oh, yeah, we have a switch that

943
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: we can flip on it anytime. That that's not gonna

944
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: work this season, you know what I'm saying. Like Denver's tough,

945
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: the Jazz are tough. I mean that's I mean, as

946
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: hard as it is to say, the Clippers are right there,

947
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: they're like the silent assassin is just they're just waiting.

948
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: The weeds just kind of ready to pounce, you know

949
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like we got our work

950
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: cut out for us big time. I just want to

951
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: read the shout out. Chase Taylor thirty two sent me

952
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: the Kuzma quote. Um Kusuma says, I'm not sure what

953
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: to do. I wish we could get a little more

954
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: time out there with Mark. That would be something that

955
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: was pretty good for that would be pretty good for

956
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: us for sure. So that's a full quote from Hovan

957
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Hovan boo hoo, just out. So, yeah, it was a

958
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: nice little push for Gasol. But I think that's pretty

959
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: clear and just to be fair, like just to be

960
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: fair to a D like this was when it was

961
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: reported both Lebron Andrew and a D wanted Audrey Drummond, right,

962
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: I think that was the reports they both recruited him

963
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: heavyan the theory of Andre Drummond is still there right

964
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: like within engaged Anthony Davis, two people who should be

965
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: dominating the offensive rebound who should be taken away the

966
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: rim right be able to move their feet. Drummond can

967
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: really move his feet when he knows which direction he's going,

968
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: But like when you know Sich directs he's going, he

969
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: can move his feet pretty quickly get out to the

970
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: corners m two shooters when everyone is engaged. And we

971
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: haven't seen that yet, so just still give him a

972
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: little bit of the of the Banta doubt until that happens.

973
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, for sure, I think as all should be

974
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: should be playing. I made the comparison earlier to Rondo

975
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: and was saying that, like, you know, there was a

976
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: similar phenomena with Rondo, where the coaching staff and everyone

977
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: was pushing, pushing for him against the greater you know,

978
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: knowledge of all the stats that we knew and what

979
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: we were seeing with their eyes. The difference was is

980
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: like Rondo was was Rondo was like actively shaving points

981
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: when the Lakers were actually trying and Lebron and maybe

982
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: you were good. So that was the huge difference. Like

983
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: Drummond has been pretty bad, but he's been pretty bad

984
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: for a team that also has been pretty bad just

985
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: in general. Um, so that's the one thing that kind

986
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: of if if you're gonna, if you're gonna make an

987
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: excuse for him, the excuses that the team is bad

988
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: right now, and so maybe that he's kind of just

989
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: being brought down with the ship, if that makes sense.

990
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: And so I would, like I said before, I'd like

991
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: to see and maybe this is what the coaching staff

992
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: is hoping for is just you know, they want to

993
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: they want to get into these postseason environments and they

994
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: want to turn these games into total rock fights, and

995
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: they're hoping that hey, if we're in a rock fight

996
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: and it's just a super physical playoff series. But Lebron

997
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: and a d are being Lebron in a D. Then

998
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: we'll just win games one, O, two to ninety two,

999
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll just beat the hell out of

1000
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: teams physically, and Drummond will have some mislayups, but physically

1001
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: he'll just be a huge pain in the ask to

1002
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: deal with for other teams, and and it'll just be

1003
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: part of that physical on slaught of Lebron and NAD.

1004
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they're thinking, and well, I guess we'll

1005
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: find out. But what's funny is that's what they were

1006
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: doing when they didn't have Lebron and a D. They

1007
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: were just being super physical, and that's how they were

1008
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: beating teams, like beating teams with really good defense, their guards,

1009
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: being physical at the top at the point of the

1010
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: tech buying screens. And that's just all gone gone downhill recently.

1011
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: But we have maybe when that picks up, Drummond will

1012
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: we'll play better and and he can fit into more

1013
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: like a natural scheme with a D. And everyone engaged. Yeah,

1014
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: um a j thanks for having on, man. We really

1015
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: appreciated man. Yeah, man, thank you for having me on.

1016
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. All right, we'll take we'll take one more

1017
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: question before we get out of here. Since it's super late.

1018
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Let's try. Let's try t and he bounced out. Let's

1019
00:48:50,239 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: try zach a ryo. Y is zachar right? What's that? Man?

1020
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: Can hear us? Nothing? All right? Let's try Will will

1021
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: be the one for us? Man? Will can you hear us? Will?

1022
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: All right? No? Will see for the podcast version, I'll

1023
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: try to edit this kind of stuff out for you guys.

1024
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone that's in here. By the way, is

1025
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: our first basis, so just working out, working out the gigs,

1026
00:49:51,040 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: working out the kings yet, Julian, Let's try Julian, what's up? Man?

1027
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for hopping on. You know what, I don't really

1028
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: have a question per se. You guys covered a lot

1029
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: of stuff, But since a lot of people were coming

1030
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: on here and not speaking, I felt like I needed

1031
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: to jump on and say something. Um, this is the

1032
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: one thing I would say, Dude, I don't really have

1033
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: like um, I don't really have like the worst to

1034
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: express like what's going on? But um, I will say this.

1035
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: Lebron is a psychopath. He is a single path. This

1036
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: dude like he for some reason, he loves he thrives

1037
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: in chaos. And I don't know what it is, but

1038
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: like this reminds me so much of the last the

1039
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: Last year Bubble Games because there's a lot of similarities

1040
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: with the whole with the drumming, uh integration and Deon Waiders.

1041
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: Because if you would have gone back to the Bubble Games,

1042
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: you would have thought that Deon Waiters was about to

1043
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: be a big piece for the Lakers rotation. Just think

1044
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: about how many minutes they were playing him in the

1045
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: Bubble like they were playing him a lot of minutes

1046
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: in those seating gas He was playing twenty plus minutes

1047
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of nights. And there's something about the games

1048
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: leading up to the playoffs where Vogel and the coaching

1049
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: staff they like to use these games to figure out

1050
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: who they're going to put into the rotation and who

1051
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna basically bench for the playoffs. So right now

1052
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: I get a big feeling at Treads is not gonna

1053
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: be a big part of the rotation if he if

1054
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: something doesn't change, because him and him and Drummond they

1055
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: play a similar role and Gasol brings something different. And

1056
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: even though the Gasol is not playing right now, I

1057
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: keep telling people to be patient because I think they

1058
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: already know what they get from Gasol. They already know

1059
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: what they get from him, so like they don't need

1060
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: to put him out there to kind of to find

1061
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: out what he's going to give them. So I think

1062
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: his spot is already kind of solidified. And you guys

1063
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: already kind of said something like that. I think Rods

1064
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: did um. But Lebron is a psychopath, dude, Like, I don't,

1065
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: I can't even I really don't know what's going on

1066
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: to the fullest, But I'm like, I don't not panicking

1067
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: because the more things start to go haywire, the more

1068
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: I know that Lebron is going to like kick into

1069
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: another gear, you know what I mean. Well, Julian, first

1070
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: of all, your optimism is exactly what we all needed

1071
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: on this to come in here and and just you know,

1072
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: sometimes it really is that simple. And let's let's pray.

1073
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's pray at you're right, because I agree with you.

1074
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a guy, uh Joe is his name,

1075
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: was one of my friends here on Twitter. It was

1076
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: tweet me in the middle of the Sacramento Kings game,

1077
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, complaining about Anthony Davis just

1078
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: like the rest of us, and he was saying something

1079
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: along the lines of telling the story of that time

1080
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: A D was playing video games with Dennis Shruder and

1081
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: then Lebron FaceTime in and Lebron was watching the Bucks

1082
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: game while A D was what was playing video games

1083
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: And he's like, I just don't think he takes it

1084
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: that seriously. And I don't think that that's necessarily fair

1085
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: criticism of Anthony Davis, because guess what, not everybody wants

1086
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: to completely surround themselves with basketball all the time. I

1087
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. However, Lebron is

1088
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: a psychopath and he is completely obsessed with basketball, and

1089
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people take the fact that

1090
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: he's not a super polished basketball player and they twist

1091
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: that into a like a lack of skill, lack of

1092
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: love of the game. Lebron, you know, shows his love

1093
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: of the game in different ways. I think. I think

1094
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: he his work ethic is primarily dedicated towards his body,

1095
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: and that he works on his skill set less than

1096
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: some of his peers. But he is completely in psychotically

1097
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: obsessed for the game, and that is something that I

1098
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: think will eventually snap into uh snap into a gear

1099
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: with the specific group to try to to to whip

1100
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: him into shape. Yeah, you know what about Lebron over

1101
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: the years, he is the guy that will step up

1102
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: in the locker room and to him out for destroying

1103
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: a for leaving of road locker room messy, like he's like,

1104
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I think that might be the only

1105
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: reason why the guys are looking a little loss right

1106
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: now is because Lebron is not He's not bringing out

1107
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: the whip. He's not like he's not controlling every possession.

1108
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: He's giving it to Caruso and standing back. And sometimes

1109
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: this team, they they move at Lebron's beat a little

1110
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: too much. Ever, they think rely on him too much,

1111
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: especially a D. Like if a D doesn't see Lebron

1112
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: locked in, he kind of like lollygags or something. He

1113
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: tries to like just feel feel his way out. And

1114
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: when Lebron finally snaps, which is coming. Do you see

1115
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: his quote about the playing tournament, It's coming. He's going

1116
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: to snap eventually, He's gonna get tired of it. But

1117
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: in a roundabout way to do I think he don't

1118
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: like it easy. And I don't even know if he

1119
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: knows that he does this. It's like he waits for

1120
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: things to get so bad that he like he has

1121
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: no choice and he just said, he said, this is

1122
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: the worst we've been. There's no way to go but up.

1123
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: He just said that tonight. It's like he waits for

1124
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: it all, like all the wheels to fall off, bro,

1125
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: before he just like snaps, and when he does snap,

1126
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: they do have another gear. So like when that guy

1127
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: say they don't have another gear, they do have a gear.

1128
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: They do have a switch and it happens when Lebron snaps,

1129
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: and when they snap that they can turn on like

1130
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: this defense. That's just all worldly, Like they have another

1131
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: like the switch, another gear. Bro. You know when when

1132
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: when you call the Lebron the psychopath, what I thought

1133
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: it was like after that game went against Houston and

1134
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: then like they panned to Lebron sitting there on the

1135
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: stores table with a D and he's like, Okay, it's time. Um.

1136
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's why I keep comparing this to the

1137
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: Bubble games, because this is the only other time I

1138
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: can remember like this iteration of the Lakers kind of

1139
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: just not playing hard. Like it's different between not playing

1140
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: well and not playing hard. Right, the defense usually just

1141
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: doesn't drop off to this level. And I was going

1142
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: back watching some of the seeding games, Like we forget

1143
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: they got blown out by Oklahoma City. They were they

1144
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: played all their guys that game. They got blown out

1145
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: by uh by Houston, that same Houston they destroyed in

1146
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: the second around. So so I think you're right, Lebron

1147
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: is a psychopath. Like it's the only difference here is

1148
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: like they still have to try to find some breaths.

1149
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Like there's like like like we we made fund of

1150
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: the Clippers to do this a lot last year, right,

1151
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: but like there's a respect to like the continuity and

1152
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: a respect to like be the chemistry of the game

1153
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: that you have to put in a little bit, right,

1154
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: like just walking into the playoffs blindfolded and expecting Lebron

1155
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: to whip everyone in in like shape. It's just not

1156
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: the problem, yeah, to get a process to go. But

1157
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: but as me and Jason talked about a lot, this

1158
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: team is built around Lebron James like that that's the

1159
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: way this team is built. It's built around his shock creation.

1160
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: So when they don't have kiss shock creation, it it

1161
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: boils to other different issues, especially when Shrewder doesn't play,

1162
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: and that boils onto the defensive end, not getting back

1163
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: in transition, turnovers, all that stuff, all all compounds, but

1164
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: like expecting, I know Lebron will be there when it matters,

1165
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: Like I know he's gonna play hard when it matters.

1166
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: It to me, it's not about that, it's getting everyone

1167
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: on that same page. So when he does turn it on,

1168
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: everyone can run with him, right, Like he can't be

1169
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: going a hundred miles an hour while you know someone

1170
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: else is going eighties, someone else is going seventy because

1171
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: it's just it just worked. So that's where I want

1172
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: to I want to see the team going. But people,

1173
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's time to panic yet. But like,

1174
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: I think you're right, but all the games are close

1175
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: to that, you know. And Joe Jason, I'm glad Jason

1176
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: brought up that Indian looked dude, Like you go back

1177
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: and look at those bubble games from last year. Dude,

1178
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: they were getting smoked by Indiana, bro, Like, who is it?

1179
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: T J. Warren was smoking them like, he looked at

1180
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: like Jordan the third bro Like this dude was smoking

1181
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: them bro like, and they looked like they couldn't keep

1182
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: up with anybody, And like that's that's why it's like

1183
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: I look at this and I'm like, damn, it's just

1184
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: it just reminds me too much of that bro where

1185
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: it's like how Lyriach and I looked like t J.

1186
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: Warren looked last year during the bubble games, during the

1187
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: seeding games. And I really don't know why, But when

1188
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: you see somebody like um Handley, Phil Handley going on

1189
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: on Instagram and responding to people saying, you know, talking

1190
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: about we like, basically they some people value regular season

1191
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: games and we don't. Like I don't know why they

1192
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: do it, but they do it, and they are playing

1193
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: with fire. But like that's what I mean by Lebron

1194
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: being a psychopath. This dude love playing with fire. Dude

1195
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: like he loves playing with fire. Like I don't know

1196
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: if they want to see, like Lebron is using these

1197
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: games to be like let me see, let me see

1198
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: if drumming is going to be valuable for let me

1199
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: see if Caruso can set up drumming. Let me like,

1200
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: it's just these weird little things that he's doing, you

1201
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I don't know why. I mean,

1202
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: I joke, I joke all the time that you know,

1203
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: for people like us if you if you want to

1204
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: go play a pickup game tomorrow and there are a

1205
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: hundred people in the crowd and you're run through layup

1206
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: lines before the game or whatever, you literally be covered

1207
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: in adrenaline because he'd be like, Man, I'm playing in

1208
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: front of a hundred people, It's sweet. Lebron literally has

1209
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: played in so many high leverage moments in his career

1210
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: that like, he shows up in Sacramento in front of

1211
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: the crowd of twenty people and you can't really he

1212
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: doesn't feel it, know what I mean. He doesn't get

1213
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: stoked for that, And I think, like I think, at

1214
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like there is some truth

1215
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: to the fact that he thrives in adversity because it

1216
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: brings the best out of him. But that said, like

1217
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: my guess is with his competitive nature, that doesn't mean

1218
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: he actively seeks out adversity. I think it's just a symptom,

1219
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: a side effect of of him just kind of not

1220
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: taking every single moment super seriously, which is which is

1221
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: which is part of the deal. But do you really

1222
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: want to see what happens tomorrow? Bro? I really want

1223
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: to see what happens tomorrow, because it wouldn't be the

1224
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: first time this year where they laid down to I

1225
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: think it was this year where they they lost to

1226
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: a bad team on the backer back and then the

1227
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: next night they smoked. I think they did it with

1228
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: the Rockets, or was it or was it the Nuggets.

1229
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: Earlier this season they hid it somebody where they looked

1230
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: like they lost to a bad team and then the

1231
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: night after they smoked a good team. Yeah, I want something.

1232
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: I expect Lebron to play. I mean, look if you

1233
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: look at the situation, and they were down sixteen when

1234
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: he checked out with six minutes left, and it was

1235
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: one of those deals where my my guess is he

1236
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: was again like I'm a little tight, I'm a little

1237
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: store tomorrow is a Muslin Like, let's just let's let's

1238
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: start treatment right now, because if I start treating it

1239
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: right now, I've got a better chance of my team tomorrow.

1240
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't take the sore ankle

1241
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: thing as a sign of concern. I mean, I could

1242
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: be wrong. I'm not Lebron. I don't know what he's thinking,

1243
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: but that's kind of that's kind of where I was

1244
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: at with that. Yeah, smart though, there there was no

1245
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: way they can really come back. I mean, so I

1246
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: think it was a smart move. So when people are

1247
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: panicking about him saying that the ankle was sword, I

1248
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't pant it too much about that. I really just

1249
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: think that he started treatment early. Just like you said, Bro,

1250
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: they they've seen the game was out of reach. So

1251
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, let's get ready for tomorrow

1252
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: and as long as he plays tomorrow. I don't know, dude,

1253
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: I got this feeling about tomorrow, Bro, We'll see. I

1254
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: got a feeling at us feeling. They shocked a lot

1255
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: of people, Bro, because there's been a against a good team,

1256
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: against a good team, it's been so they've been a while.

1257
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: They played back to back to back to back games

1258
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: against like Washington. It was a good team. But they

1259
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: don't They're not significant in the NBA landscape, and I

1260
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: think the Lakers didn't take them that seriously. You had

1261
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: the Kings, you had this Raptors team, and then the

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Speaker 1: there's one other game in there where they were playing

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Speaker 1: against somebody who wasn't actively really relevant. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is just like that, like

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Speaker 1: tomorrow is. It's not a muslin, but it's one of

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Speaker 1: those games where like you would certainly think that a

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Speaker 1: desperation would kick in at some point. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was desperation didn't kick in tonight, and you certainly hope

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow would be tonight. Um, Julian, no problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to read this,

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Speaker 1: uh this Lebron quote Lebron James on the planned tournament

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Speaker 1: from Bill Aorum. Whoever came up with that sip needs

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Speaker 1: to be fired. That's hilarious. For for whatever it's worth,

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Speaker 1: I think complaining about the point in tournament is lame.

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Speaker 1: I'm the opposite. I love it. I think it takes

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Speaker 1: away this tanking stuff. I hate the Oklahoma City is

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Speaker 1: I think it's complaining about the plane tournament. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the place tournament. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. It takes away all this tanking, this

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Speaker 1: blamee taking even though Oklahoma City all these picks and

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Speaker 1: they're still tanking doesn't make sense to me. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I love it. And you know that's what they're

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Speaker 1: facing here, like this is the consequence of not caring

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Speaker 1: about any of these games, Like you, you might fall

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Speaker 1: into this this plan tournament. So hopefully they win against Denver,

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Speaker 1: and not just the plane tournament or not just the taking,

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Speaker 1: it also gets all the teams that are in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I'm still trying, like like this where where Phoenix, Utah,

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Speaker 1: Denver and the Clippers are all really good, Like finishing six,

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Speaker 1: seven or eight isn't as big as a deal. Uh

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Speaker 1: So literally, you know, look at you look at the standings.

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Speaker 1: You might think, oh, like Lakers, Blazers, uh and and

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Speaker 1: Mavericks are all going to finish somewhere in there. They

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Speaker 1: might not care, but because of the playing tournament, it

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Speaker 1: adds this extra urgency. So now it's not about finishing

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Speaker 1: six or seven, it's about finishing six or playing and

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Speaker 1: that's that just overcomplicates it to the point where teams

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Speaker 1: have to try hard. But you know, Lebron, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: a huge Lebron fan, but I'm not a fan of

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Speaker 1: every little thing that he says. And that strikes me

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Speaker 1: as pointless plaining, dude, like you just you guys literally

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Speaker 1: just showed up against the team, um that was the

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Speaker 1: twelve seed in the Eastern Conference and without a significant

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Speaker 1: rotation players including you know, they're one of the best

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Speaker 1: scoring guards and one of their best young prospects and

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Speaker 1: and you literally just laid down and and gave up

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Speaker 1: seventy in the first half. And there's no there's no

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Speaker 1: there's no getting mad at Adam Silver about what happened

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Speaker 1: just tonight, Like that's there's no one to look out

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Speaker 1: there but in the mirror. Yeah, you make a good

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Speaker 1: point about that, because a lot of the teams probably

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Speaker 1: would be resting guys, like like the Clippers or even

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Speaker 1: though it's probably be resting guys if if the playing

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Speaker 1: tournament wasn't there, So now they're incentive to kind of

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Speaker 1: stay stay in the good seeds. But but none of

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Speaker 1: this like matters. If the Lakers aren't playing the way

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Speaker 1: they need to write, it doesn't matter who they play

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Speaker 1: in the first round. That's what's so fascinating to me

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Speaker 1: about this is like I really think they don't care

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Speaker 1: about who they play, Like all of us as fans

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Speaker 1: probably don't want them to see the Clippers, but like

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Speaker 1: I would love to know if they if they feel

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Speaker 1: that way, if they like put the Clippers and some

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Speaker 1: other tier than the than the Nuggets or the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Jazz or the Suns, which it doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: they do because they don't look like they care about

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Speaker 1: winning these games in any time any type of official manner.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see tomorrow. How they treat tomorrow's game will

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Speaker 1: be really telling. To me. Um, A game tag against

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Speaker 1: Toronto is kind of tough to gauge because they should

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Speaker 1: have one tonight just based on their talent um, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't because their their effort was so poor that

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Speaker 1: they couldn't even bridge that gap. And then Kyle Lowry

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Speaker 1: took tonight personal for some reason. But oh absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take this moment to take my personal Kyle Lowry

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Speaker 1: victory lap, because if you ask yourself right now, if

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Speaker 1: you'd rather have Kyle Lowry and Ben McLamore or KCP

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Speaker 1: and and and THHD, oh that's right. They we would

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Speaker 1: have had to give up Shrewder too, So maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll just for all my victory lap. Um. Anyway, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the point is is, I I do not take I

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Speaker 1: do not feel any remorse for talking about how freaking

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Speaker 1: good Kyle Lowry is because he's just really really good.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, I do think I do think tomorrow

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Speaker 1: will be it will be an interesting game to see

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Speaker 1: how they approach it. Uh, mentally and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you make a good point about the like trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out what these teams think about each other, Like uh,

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Speaker 1: like who knows, Like there there, it's all matchup based.

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Speaker 1: Like the Clippers very clearly are terrified at Denver, like

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Speaker 1: they cannot mentally aim that matchup. They just they just

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Speaker 1: completely crumble under that matchup. And then you know, Phoenix

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Speaker 1: just beats the living ship out of the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 1: every time they put you know, and then and then

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Speaker 1: the Lakers have had a lot of success with Denver.

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Speaker 1: You know, they went one and one against them the season,

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Speaker 1: but a d got hurt in the second one. And

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Speaker 1: then uh, and like clearly like that when the Lakers

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Speaker 1: really turned it on against Denver in that first matchup,

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Speaker 1: like Denver really crumbled, And it's just everything's all that

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Speaker 1: matchups And you know, it might literally be that simple.

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Speaker 1: And the Lakers, for whatever it's worth, have a lot

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Speaker 1: of flexibility to attack specific matchups. But I am interested

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Speaker 1: to hear to see what what tomorrow one is it

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Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I guess my my final point for

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Speaker 1: it tonight would just be like I've been standing watching

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Speaker 1: like I think a lot of the fans have been

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Speaker 1: also standing watching, like watching the mass I think Dallas

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Speaker 1: lost tonight if I'm to sacrament but like, but none

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Speaker 1: of that matters that the Lakers aren't playing the way

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Speaker 1: they need to be, right, there's no point of me

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Speaker 1: watching Dallas lose. That the Lakers are gonna drop all

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Speaker 1: these games. So they have to get themselves right, get

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Speaker 1: get playing well, get lineups. That makes sense that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna play going forward. And they have eight games left now,

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Speaker 1: so I mean that's the same amount as the Bubble games,

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Speaker 1: So I guess, I guess maybe maybe that would be

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Speaker 1: their marker to start start really pushing for these games,

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Speaker 1: to start to start trying and get get the effort going.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully Lebron's plays tomorrow as well, but again you have

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Speaker 1: tomorrow will be big for me to see how the

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Speaker 1: rotations play out, how they defend Yokis, do they do it?

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Speaker 1: Do they do anything like match of dependence, try to

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Speaker 1: scheme amount double team And I'm just interested to see

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Speaker 1: that if if BOTHO can't get any actual data for

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Speaker 1: how to defend Denver, because if they just don't play

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Speaker 1: with effort, then there will be no point. You won't

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Speaker 1: learn anything from from tomorrow's game, as they didn't learn

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Speaker 1: anything from tonight gave up seventy one points in the

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Speaker 1: first half. You don't learn anything from a game tonight,

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Speaker 1: am I exactly agree. Um, everyone who hopped in here

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Speaker 1: and listened with us, I sincerely appreciate it. It looks like,

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Speaker 1: judging from what I can tell from my wife's phone here,

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Speaker 1: that my attempted screen capture from Jason tims Burner account

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Speaker 1: appears to have worked. UM, so I should be able

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Speaker 1: to give you guys a full podcast version of this

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Speaker 1: on the State of the Lakers podcast feed. You can

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Speaker 1: find it on my Twitter page. You can find it

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Speaker 1: on Roger's Twitter page. We usually do two or three

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Speaker 1: shows a week. We may even do another one tomorrow night. Uh,

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Speaker 1: depending on whether or not Rog has time for it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. Um, I'm just kidding anyway. I thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for listening to Roger. I apprecient you

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Speaker 1: as always. Uh. We've obviously we're thankful to have all

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Speaker 1: you guys hop on and give us some questions comments.

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Speaker 1: Maples and Venet. We appreciate you guys as well, and

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Speaker 1: we will see you guys tomorrow