1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fredshell. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Ya Evin, good morning, welcome to the program. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: All right, good morning, thanks for having me. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's our pleasure I say that. But we'll 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: just wait and see what you did. Maybe you didn't 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: do anything, you know, maybe you're one of those few 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: examples that didn't do anything. Maybe we're going to pay 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: for like our fifth date. Ever. Maybe we've been doing 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: this for ten years or something and we've only paid 10 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: for maybe four or five. That's a trivia question, by 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: the way. People ask all the time, how many have 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: you paid for? And it's literally is that we've done 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: thousands of these and we've paid for like four. Anyways, Kevin, 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: what happened with this woman? Tell us how you met, 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: About any dates that you've been on, and any information 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: that we should have. 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, I prom Well, it's been about a 18 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: month or so, and I just recently got over a 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: five year relationship that I had going on and it 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: kind of ended pretty bad. So I was just kind 21 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: of waiting for the right time to start dating again. 22 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: And this last weekend I just decided to say the 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: hell with it, let me just go out there and 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: meet new people again because I got to go and 25 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: live my life and do what I gotta do. 26 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, everybody's different, but I would say a 27 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: month is a that's a good that's a good cooling 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: off period, you know. I mean some people shorter, some 29 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: people longer or whatever, but yeah, a month is good. 30 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I got on, you know, one of these 31 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: dating apps, started browsing around, met a couple of women. 32 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: They weren't really my type, and then I came across 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: you knowing Cara. She was actually pretty cool. We spoke 34 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: a lot through the text messaging system that they had, 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: and I'd say, no, what you seem pretty cool? So 36 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: how about we go out get a couple of drinks 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: and that way we could actually see one another and 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: actually continue from there. 39 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: A right, good strategy, And so you did, right. 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: So this past weekend we went to one of the 41 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: nearby bars that are by our area and we just 42 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: shoot and we were just knocking it off right from 43 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: the start. She's actually pretty funny, and surprisingly enough, we 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: have a lot of things in common that it's kind 45 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: of hard to find nowadays, because it's just it's impossible 46 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: to find people that could just relate to on a 47 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: personal level, and you could just get along right from 48 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: the start. 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so you fell to connection. Except you're calling us 50 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: because I take it after this date, as confident as 51 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: you were and as excited as you were about you know, 52 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: is the potential here, you're not hearing from her at all. 53 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: Right, So what really happened was I'm a drinker and 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: I like to go what I like to say, shot 55 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: for shot. So after I realized that she was very 56 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: open about the idea, I said, all right, let's go 57 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: a couple of rounds and let's see who could really hang. 58 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: And as the night went by, we started talking some 59 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: more and get to know more about each other on 60 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: a personal level. Then after about maybe like the seventh 61 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: or eighth shot, I can't really remember. Things kind of 62 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: got a little hazy, and I just remember waking up 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: the following day at my apartment and I don't remember 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: ever asking her out for a second date. 65 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: So I got to let me tell you something there, buddy, 66 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Evan. It's that haze that 67 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: we'd like to hear about, because I have a feeling 68 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: it's that hazy period that is preventing her from calling 69 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: you again. But nonetheless, maybe we can maybe not, maybe 70 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: this is something we can figure out, you know, maybe 71 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: she was in the same stat It sounds like you 72 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: guys are going shot for shot. I mean, so we'll see. 73 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: Let's call uh, let's call this woman Kara, and we'll 74 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: ask some questions on your behalf. You'll be on the 75 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: phone at some point. You're welcome to jump in and 76 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: hopefully we can figure this out and set you guys 77 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: up on another date that we pay for. I don't 78 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: know if we have the budget for ten shots, but 79 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: we should, so let's do it next. Hold on it right, 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens next. Part two of Waiting by 81 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: the Phone. After this song on The Fred Show. Good morning, 82 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: It's the Fred's Show. Part two of Waiting by the Phone. Evan, I, 83 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: let's call Kara. You guys met on a dating app, 84 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: had a great date, had a lot of fun. You 85 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: felt like the date went well. You said there was 86 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: a fair amount of drinking, and that that you don't 87 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: remember everything exactly, but still you're at the point where 88 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: you think, like, Okay, I think I still think it 89 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: went well enough that she shouldn't be ghosting me because 90 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I assume you've reached out trying to see her again, 91 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: and she's not responding to you at all. 92 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I found a couple of messages, and you know, 93 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: nowadays you can see when you've been left on right, 94 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: and quite frankly, that happened. 95 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah I left. 96 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's call Kara and see what's up. 97 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Good luck, man? 98 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Thanks? Hello? 99 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: Hi is this Kara? 100 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: Hi? 101 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes, it is Jarah, Good morning. It's Fred from the 102 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Fred's Show. The whole crew is here. I'm sorry to bother, 103 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: but I do have to tell you that we are 104 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: on the radio and I need your consent to continue 105 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: with the calls. That okay, if we chat for a 106 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: minute on the show, Yeah sure, I know it's a 107 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: little weird. 108 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 109 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if we woke you up or something, 110 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: but before your coffee or whatever. But I'm sorry, but 111 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I am calling on behalf of a guy named Evan. 112 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: You guys met on Hinge and went on a date. 113 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember this guy? 114 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, I remember Evan. 115 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, long story short. 116 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: He said he had a great time with you, really 117 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed the evening, connected with you, he thought in a 118 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: lot of ways, and was hoping to see you again. 119 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: He says that you've left him on red though, that 120 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: you're not responding to him at all, and he really 121 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: can't figure out why, and so we're calling to see 122 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: if we can, you know, figure it out for it 123 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: and let him know and then maybe get you guys 124 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: hooked up again. 125 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: So what happened. 126 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we went out on a date, and we 127 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: went out through drinks and everything, and you know, it 128 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: was it was actually going really well. It was like 129 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: sort of the normal first date kind of thing that 130 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 4: usually happens, except it was like in a positive way, 131 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: you know, like we actually had chemistry and everything, so 132 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: because you know, sometimes it happens and you go on 133 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: a first date and there's like no. 134 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: Chemistry and he said, awkward, Yeah, he said, there was 135 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of chemistry and stuff. So I guess we're 136 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: all trying to figure out what what's the second part here, 137 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: because if that's true, then why you responded to him? 138 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was fun at first, but 139 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: then you know, things got weird because towards the end 140 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: of the date, I you know, I looked over at 141 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: him and I could see that he was like on 142 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: the verge of tears, like practically crying, looking super upset, 143 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, what are you okay? You know, 144 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: like what happened? Like did I do something like I 145 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 4: can't understand. 146 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: On the date at all to us. So he was 147 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: crying on the date and you ask him why, Yeah. 148 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: And then that just made him even more upset, like 149 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: he started, you know, crying even more basically and okay, 150 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: so he didn't really say anything at first, but then 151 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: after a little while he admitted to me that our 152 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: waitress reminded him of his ex. Reminded him of his ex. Yeah, 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: and so it was that was just super awkward for me. 154 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: And you know, he's not over his ex. 155 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think pretty that it's clear. Let 156 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: me bring Evan, and I forgot to mention that Evans, 157 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: you're awfully quiet. Maybe that's the hazy part, Evan, because 158 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: you didn't mention that you cried over the waitress who 159 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: looks like your ax. 160 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Hi, there, nice to finally hear from you. 161 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Well you really don't, you kind of didn't she heard 162 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: from us. But anyway, so do you remember you don't remember, 163 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: or you do remember crying. You just didn't want to 164 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: tell us, and you thought that wasn't a big deal. 165 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: We listen, listen, Okay, I understand because I hadn't mentioned 166 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: it to her that I just got out of this 167 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: relationship of five years and I was just trying to, 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: you know, gather myself. And I may have dropped a 169 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: tear too because of some past memories. But to say 170 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: that I fool out pride, especially in front on a 171 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: first date, that's like a horrible impression that that's not me. 172 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: But can you see whatsoever if you went on a 173 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: date with a woman. 174 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: If you're out with Kara and she starts crying because 175 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: the dude comes over it looks like her ex boyfriend, 176 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: aren't you automatically going to assume you don't know this 177 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: person but they're not all that other person and you 178 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with it. 179 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: I mean true, But. 180 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, people people want to heal. 181 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: They just they want to keep it going, keep the 182 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: fun going, you know, just have fun and keep moving 183 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: on in life. 184 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: So you want her to overlook the fact that you 185 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: cried on the date because the server looked like your 186 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: ex and you told her that you had to tell her, 187 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: I guess because you were crying, So you want her 188 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: just to overlook that, no, biggie and give you another shot. Okay, look, Cara, 189 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: So the guy's healing, but he says he's in a 190 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: good place and he wants to see you again. 191 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: So are you down? 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: So he may not remember that he cried about this 193 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: about the waitress reminding him of his ex. But I'm 194 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: telling you that this for sure, one hundred percent happens. 195 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 4: And so to me, it's clear that he's just not 196 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 4: over his ex. So it's going to be no for me. 197 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so no for you, Doug. Okay, all right, Evan, Look, 198 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: it's too bad because it sounds like this is a 199 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: little too early, and that maybe because she made said 200 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the date was going great until you started crying about 201 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: your ex. Uh, you know, it's a classic foil. 202 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: You know, Well, this is unheard of, but if you 203 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: ever change your minds, you know where to contact me. 204 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm appy sure this is not unheard of, but nonetheless, guys, 205 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: thank you for your time. Best eluct to both of you. 206 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: Thank you