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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. So much to

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Speaker 1: talk about because OTAs are still going on, and we

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Speaker 1: have mini camp next week.

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Speaker 2: The team will be off tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: They might do some things, but no formal practice tomorrow

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Speaker 1: that I know about. Anyway, On Monday, it's our internal

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Speaker 1: media day. We've told you about this. We'll have lots

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Speaker 1: of content relative to that and more on that later.

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Speaker 2: Plus mini camp next week. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Mandatory attendance at all NFL mini camps, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about NFL mini camps around.

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Speaker 2: The league a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: We'll have John McClean on the show.

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Speaker 1: Some news broke today, not by the Texans, they don't

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Speaker 1: release these things, but there was a report that Kiln

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Speaker 1: Rutline signed his deal man. There was a day where

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Speaker 1: you'd sweat out your first round draft choice signing a deal,

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Speaker 1: but those days are long gone. These things happen early

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Speaker 1: and often now, so that's cool to see that happen.

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Speaker 1: And let's see this happen. We caught up with quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: coach Jerry Schaplinsky, who was with the team last year

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Speaker 1: as an offensive assistant working closely with the quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 1: now he's the QB coach, and he's been around to league, Raiders, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: other stops. We caught up with Jerry Schaplinsky after practice

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Speaker 1: to ask them about things are going and OTAs and

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Speaker 1: mini camp coming up.

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Speaker 4: Enjoying the hell out of it.

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Speaker 5: Love being with the guys, love getting out and actually

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Speaker 5: going against the defense, competing, working hard and you know,

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Speaker 5: give and take a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit back and forth. It's been fun, a lot to

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Speaker 4: learn from and good time.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 6: What's the main thing at this time of year? We

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Speaker 6: were talking about this the other day. As you get

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Speaker 6: ready for training camp, this becomes that much more important.

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Speaker 6: But what's kind of the biggest focus for you during

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Speaker 6: this period through OTA's and Mini caamp.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say if I rewind back to phase one,

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Speaker 5: we've talked about building the foundation and what does that

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Speaker 5: look like? And so that was all focused on as

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Speaker 5: simple as it sounds, like, what's our huddle look like,

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Speaker 5: how do our play calls go, what's our cadences we're

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Speaker 4: How do we do a better job of that? How

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Speaker 5: How can we get our shifts, motions, protections, all that

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Speaker 5: kind of stuff and we got to phase two. It's

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Speaker 5: a lot more scheme related going against like basically bags

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Speaker 5: and now it's just putting it all together. It's finding

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Speaker 5: out as much as you can with no pads on

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Speaker 5: how could you compete and what does that look like

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Speaker 5: now versus a live defense going at it. So just

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Speaker 5: focusing on the competing aspect of it. And like I said,

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Speaker 5: we're learning every day as we're running our stuff full

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Speaker 5: speed now going against those guys. They're mixing up coverages

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Speaker 5: now as you get in the second week especially, so

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Speaker 5: just learning, competing and growing.

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Speaker 2: Coach, how do you handle your day with the quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: I imagine it's different during actual training camp, but right

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Speaker 1: now you go over practice tape discuss things.

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Speaker 2: We only see what we see out here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been really good.

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Speaker 5: So the challenge I would say for us is just

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Speaker 5: with I think we get like fifty five minutes in

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Speaker 5: the morning and then another hour after practice, so were

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Speaker 5: able to go through the film after practice.

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Speaker 4: If we start there, we get through just.

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Speaker 5: About all of it, I would say, And then if

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Speaker 5: there's any installation going in the next day, that's what

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Speaker 5: in the morning it's kind of like, okay, some reminders

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Speaker 5: stuff on the script, some protection stuff that we need

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Speaker 5: together with them being as fishent as we can with

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Speaker 5: our time before we could teach them everything's important, But

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Speaker 5: you've got to really focus as a coach is what's

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Speaker 5: really going to be important today, what we're trying to

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Speaker 5: get out of it, whether that be a protection aside,

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Speaker 6: Coach year one, you're installing everything, You're throwing everything at him.

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Speaker 6: I mean it feels probably like a water hose. Now

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Speaker 6: in year two, how does it feel from you from

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Speaker 3: How much difference has that made thus far?

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Speaker 4: You're two huge, it's always better going in the second year.

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Speaker 5: I think we all took it like in phase one,

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Speaker 5: the first step we acted like they shouldn't know anything.

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Speaker 5: Coming back is what we should do. But you could

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Speaker 5: get through the material so much faster. I would say

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Speaker 5: they're on their piece and Q so much better. Everything

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Speaker 5: looks crisp, and I would say we built to that,

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Speaker 5: Like last year at this time was probably not what

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Speaker 5: and then we've been able to pick up from there.

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Speaker 1: You seeing with CJ year two for you, year four

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Speaker 1: Nick Keyley.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really good spring so far.

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Speaker 5: I would say the first thing starts with him coming

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Speaker 4: He looks good, he thinned out a little bit, he

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Speaker 5: He's always, you know, been throwing the ball really well.

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Speaker 5: His footwork has been really good, all the mechanical stuff.

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Speaker 5: But then I would just say his grasp of everything.

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Speaker 5: He's operating a lot faster. You could see it at

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Speaker 5: the line and what he's doing, the way he's able

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Speaker 5: to move guys around re Id protections. You can just

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Speaker 5: see him feel way more comfortable. I feel like he's

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Speaker 5: owning everything we're doing.

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Speaker 4: Coach.

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Speaker 6: It's amazing to say that he's in his sixth year now,

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Speaker 6: but Davis Mills has been in Houston for that long

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Speaker 6: and I know you just got here last year. But

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Speaker 6: what have you see from Davis last year? We saw

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Speaker 6: him coming those big games in the middle of the year,

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Speaker 6: win those three games. That was huge. What have you

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Speaker 6: seen in the growth of Davis going into your six?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Sharp really focused, really strong mentally, He's he's really

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Speaker 5: asked a lot of good questions in the room. He

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Speaker 5: prepares like a pro, like he always says, be a pro.

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Speaker 5: He's always prepared and ready to go. So when he

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Speaker 5: And same as j he just picks up right where

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Speaker 5: And he has a lot of really good ideas too,

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Speaker 5: stuff that we might add in or hey, ever think

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Speaker 5: so he's just always locked in.

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Speaker 4: He does a good job with the young guys too.

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Speaker 5: He takes him through walkthroughs on his own time to

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Speaker 4: So he does everything that really pleads with him.

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Speaker 1: With Graham Mertz, this time last year he was coming

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Speaker 1: off the injury and then he started that final preseason game,

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Speaker 2: You put him on the fifty three. Now it's year

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Speaker 2: two for him, So what about his development coaching?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same, I was, really it's hard to go with

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Speaker 5: those guys because he'd missed OTA's last year, and then

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Speaker 5: he comes into training camp, gets all those reps, you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of had some struggles in the first two games

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Speaker 5: looked real comfortable out there, which is great to see.

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Speaker 5: And then most of his stuff is coming on the

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Speaker 4: So his growth I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 5: I can't say his growth, but like he's just again,

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Speaker 5: he's able guy that I could throw in, We could

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Speaker 5: throw in at any time. He understands what's going on.

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Speaker 5: It's not too big for him, and that allows him

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Speaker 5: to operate quickly. Now I think there's probably some mechanical

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Speaker 5: like he again, like those guys are all pretty locked in.

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Speaker 4: Coach.

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Speaker 6: As a coach, you obviously lead, you instruct, you teach, Hey,

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Speaker 6: we do this, this is the play call, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: But how important is it to be a good listener?

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Speaker 6: And I go back to a story that Nick told us.

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Speaker 6: Nick Keley told us last year about the Charger game

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Speaker 6: that first route to Jay Niggins for the touchdown was

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Speaker 6: something that she just suggested.

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Speaker 3: How important is.

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Speaker 6: It for you to be a great listener for these

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks as well to kind of balance what they're seeing

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Speaker 6: what you're instructing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think communication we talk about a lot and we

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Speaker 5: focus on that. Part of the communication is verbal non verbal,

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Speaker 5: but also listening and hearing yep, And so I think

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Speaker 4: These guys are really smart.

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Speaker 5: They feel really comfortable there, and they see and most

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Speaker 5: importantly feel some things that I don't. I'm not standing

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Speaker 5: so it is important because their perspective is critical.

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Speaker 4: Now, there are some things where.

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Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, I like that, but I don't know

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Speaker 5: if we could protect that or whatever. And so I

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Speaker 5: think you have a lot of good back and forth.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's important to have open communication in

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Speaker 5: the room to hear those guys' ideas and then to

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Speaker 5: talk them through whether it's something we're gonna eventually do

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Speaker 5: or whether it's something that we're to be like, we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Hold on that for now. But yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 4: important to be a real good listen to you.

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Speaker 2: Coach, will let you go dry off? Thanks a lot

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Speaker 2: for joining us, Bromp.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, we managed to get through an interview with Jerry Schaplinsky,

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach, without talking about John Carroll. So I

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Speaker 1: think we deserve some sort of praise for that, because

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Speaker 1: you know, next time we get him in studio. That

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Speaker 1: was out of the field. It was starting to rain.

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Speaker 1: That's why we said let's go dry off. It was

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Speaker 1: it was coming down a bit. But he didn't fletch man. No,

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Speaker 1: he did total credit the total stud I mean I

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Speaker 1: had to put my hat over the phone because it

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Speaker 1: was on a phone recorder on a special app that

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Speaker 1: and we're standing on.

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Speaker 2: The field doing it.

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Speaker 1: But I had to do that because the phone was

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Speaker 1: all over.

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Speaker 2: So I enjoyed speaking with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really think that It's interesting when you look

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Speaker 1: at what Ryan Fitzpatrick said.

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Speaker 2: About him because he worked with him in Miami.

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Speaker 1: What Jimmy Garoppolo said about him because he worked with

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Speaker 1: him with the Rams, and Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Too, New England thing and maybe New England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there in New England too, because Jerry

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Speaker 1: was there in the mid teens. He's worked with a

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Speaker 1: Thoughts on practice today, thought it was interesting in the

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Speaker 2: Then the twos or maybe the twos than the ones.

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Speaker 6: but it wasn't that kind of balls out one hundred percent,

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Speaker 6: Jauar Jordan was at running back and he ended up

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Speaker 3: He just went over there and just kind of locked

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Speaker 6: Defensive guy and knew okay, and my guy knew that

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna take this to the quarterback and get

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Speaker 6: him hurt. So I think it's a good way to

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Speaker 3: See the communication, hear the communication.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a big, big thing, especially a two

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Speaker 6: like okay, we're good. You know they can do that.

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Speaker 3: So that was good.

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Speaker 6: I feel like it was from that standpoint, a pretty

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Speaker 6: I want to say, I heard Dimiko called a crossover drill.

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Speaker 6: And we've seen that before with different coaches. I can't remember,

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Speaker 6: Of walk through ish ish, but that still it was

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Speaker 1: Now again obviously not tackling ever in these situations and

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Speaker 6: But I mean President Brad Smith was out there and

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Speaker 1: Right, So the receivers it wasn't like they were walking through.

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Speaker 2: They were running. They were running.

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Speaker 1: And you could tell CJ. Wanted to get the ballta

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Speaker 1: Tank a lot. Oh yeah, he was enjoying throwing the

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Speaker 6: Well, when they were an eleven personnel, there was at

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Speaker 2: You think they would have come in handy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you think about just those four guys

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Speaker 3: Maybe with that big play, now he ends up being

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Speaker 6: And then Dalton went out at the end of that

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Speaker 6: good to watch today. It was out doing some stuff

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Speaker 2: Oh nice.

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Speaker 6: It was good to see Brev out there, catches and

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Speaker 3: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't know anything about the last two years,

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Speaker 2: You'd say, who's that?

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Speaker 3: So on what's today?

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Speaker 3: Oh holy cow?

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Speaker 3: So for me, uh and just two years of that.

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Speaker 6: For Brev, I just want to see them do good

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Speaker 1: So some situational stuff today, but again not full speed,

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Speaker 1: mini camp next week. Practice on Tuesday. Wednesday, Monday, we

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a ton of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're interviewing over thirty players, so get the vocal cords

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Speaker 2: Monday, Johnny, Yep, we are allowed to go loaded for.

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Speaker 1: That and then Thursday will be the final practice. A

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because apparently, according to Kyle Shanahan, they had one

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Speaker 1: Now, some players who aren't participating in OTA, I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how they.

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Speaker 3: I would think. So if you get you get an

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Speaker 3: extra week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Shanahan did that in the the COVID

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Speaker 6: year too.

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Speaker 3: There was there was a lot of talk about that.

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Speaker 6: I remember in Houston about how the Texans that final

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Speaker 6: Mini camp week because they got the participation they wanted,

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Speaker 6: they you know, they they let them off for an

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Speaker 6: extra week.

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Speaker 3: The Niners did that as well. The Colts did it

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: You know who else did it? Not COVID but twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one David Kelly Babe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, Okay, I met.

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Speaker 6: That's why I met. The year after twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: That's what I meant that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I meant, because there was no

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Speaker 2: Mini camp.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a mini camp COVID, So yeah, I

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Speaker 6: meant twenty twenty one. Yeah, and there obviously was a

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Speaker 6: lot of consternation here, how can you take that last

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Speaker 6: week off? So but I remember Kyle Shanahan did that.

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Speaker 6: It was kind of the same deal of hey, you

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Speaker 6: got to show up for Orota's, Well, can't sell last

467
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Speaker 6: week in mini camp. Let's do that, And they did it.

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Speaker 6: They negotiated it amongst I don't know negotiates the right word,

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Speaker 6: but they talked about it and they got it done.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, John McClain his thoughts on OTA's plus

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Speaker 1: more than the Dante documentary. You know, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about this. It's next year on Texans Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: right back into the hun Day Texans Radio studio. We

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Speaker 1: go and we continue to talk about OTAs, everything going

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Speaker 1: on with your Texans As. Mini Camp is next week.

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Speaker 1: Then the long hot Tundra Actually tundra means frozen field,

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Speaker 1: but I call it the humid tundra. Anyway, of the desert, Johnny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be back on the actual tundra in

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Speaker 1: late July. No date yet set for the first practice

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Speaker 1: of training camp that we know about, but we do

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Speaker 1: know the general is with us, John McLain in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. General, Good evening, Give us your take

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Speaker 1: on OTAs now that a few are under the bridge,

484
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Speaker 1: the water has flowed underneath the bridge with OTA's with

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Speaker 1: mini camp next week, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Good evening, guys.

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Speaker 7: Maybe it's just me and it's my imagination, but it

488
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Speaker 7: just seems so everybody, players, coaches, everybody is so fired up.

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Speaker 7: It's just an OTA, but the way they're going about it,

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Speaker 7: the enthusiasm, the excitement, the energy. I think that everybody

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Speaker 7: over there knows that this team could be special. They

492
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Speaker 7: know they have a defense capable of winning the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 7: and the key is the offense. And it looks to

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Speaker 7: me like people who are on the field are excited

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Speaker 7: about changes in the offense. They no necessary of Amiko

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Speaker 7: Ryans did everything they could up to this point to

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Speaker 7: try to improve the running game, but it just seems

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Speaker 7: like a new level of excitement. I tried to remember

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Speaker 7: back twenty twelve, after that first division title and playoff

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Speaker 7: victory under Gary Kubiak, and what it was like in

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Speaker 7: twenty twelve, And I have a hard time remembering last week,

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Speaker 7: but I just don't. And y'all tell tell me if

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Speaker 7: I'm wrong. Don't remember a level of excitement for the

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Speaker 7: Texans at this twenty offseason twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler, Hey, hey, what about Mallett and Hoyer twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: So listen, we're just joking around about that.

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Speaker 6: I think the General's right.

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Speaker 2: Twelve was huge. It was huge coming off eleven.

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Speaker 1: Twelve was huge, and twelve training camp was humongous. But

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Speaker 1: this time of year, I think I'll go with you

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Speaker 1: on that because if you think about, all right, this

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Speaker 1: is the twenty fifth season, the level of popularity has

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Speaker 1: really never been higher coming off a twelve win campaign.

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Speaker 1: How likable these guys are. Those guys were likable too.

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Speaker 1: And also the fact that you do have you know,

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Speaker 1: you have a generational defense, and I'll call it that.

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Speaker 1: I think twenty eleven we thought really good defense. We

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Speaker 1: got jj wack coming back after that pick six in

519
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, we didn't know what was gonna win Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year three times at that point. So

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Speaker 1: when I compare the two, I would say, you're right,

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Speaker 1: more popular than ever. Social media wasn't as big back then,

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Speaker 1: but we are huge on social right now. The Texans

524
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Speaker 1: Patriots game was the most watched game in ESPN history.

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Speaker 2: Huge and in.

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Speaker 1: The market, out of the market all that. So I'll

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Speaker 1: let go that. We'll see where it takes us.

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Speaker 6: General, So General will go I'm gonna I don't know

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Speaker 6: how you measure this. I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 6: Tank Dell analytics we can put with this, but it

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Speaker 6: feels as if that excitement goes to a different level

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Speaker 6: if if if Tank is fully healthy to at least

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Speaker 6: start training camp. I don't know how you measure that,

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Speaker 6: but how much do you think a healthy Tank Dell

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Speaker 6: adds into the excitement for this team?

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Speaker 1: And he took a little step today. He did a

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Speaker 1: little step today walking kind of accelerated walkthrough reps. There

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Speaker 1: were nice looking reps.

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Speaker 7: Nick Cassario told Sean bender Gas and Seth pay that

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Speaker 7: he would be in practice at trading camp, so they

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Speaker 7: know he's going to be in practice. Now what level

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Speaker 7: we don't know, But because Tank is popular, because he's small.

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Speaker 7: You know, anytime it's a small player and stature is

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Speaker 7: capable of doing big things that it has to overcome

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Speaker 7: big adversity to get back. Plus the fact he's University

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Speaker 7: of Houston. I think that people would be extra fired up.

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Speaker 7: I can imagine what it would be like first time

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Speaker 7: Tank runs on the field at Reliant Stadium. People are

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Speaker 7: fired up, you know, around around the country. I see

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Speaker 7: people predicting him and go to Super Bowl. A couple

551
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Speaker 7: to win the Super Bowl. The ESPN asm it's the

552
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Speaker 7: thirteenth best team and the only question really everybody knows

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Speaker 7: they've improved the offensive line. The key is how much.

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Speaker 7: But the big question, of course is CJ.

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Speaker 8: Stroud.

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Speaker 7: People cannot get it out of their minds the way

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Speaker 7: he ended the last season, and we know how much

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Speaker 7: pride he's got. He's aware of all the criticism. He

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Speaker 7: knows he played terrible. He said afterward he felt like

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Speaker 7: he let the team down, and he did. And I

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Speaker 7: think he's going to bounce back. I don't think he's

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Speaker 7: gonna throw thirty touchdown passes because they're going to run

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Speaker 7: the ball a lot more. With David Montgomery and Woody

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Speaker 7: Marx and but the key for the Texans to me,

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Speaker 7: is to get a home playoff game in the divisional

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Speaker 7: round to give them their best chance to go to

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Speaker 7: a championship game for the first time in history.

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Speaker 1: All Right, this one's for both of you. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be like you, Johnny, this question is for both

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Speaker 1: of you.

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Speaker 2: After midicap.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm going to be watching for, among

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Speaker 1: other things, if they pick up anybody else at that point,

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Speaker 1: somebody who's on the beach right now, somebody who's keeping

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Speaker 1: themselves in shape available, what position group, if you had

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Speaker 1: to target one might they look at to fortify And

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Speaker 1: it's all based on availability of who's out there, of course,

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Speaker 1: because and it's also not an insult I think to

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Speaker 1: say this about any position group, because there might be

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Speaker 1: guys you can add who would be better than your

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Speaker 1: fourth or fifth guy out there, who might be a

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Speaker 1: young player that develops but maybe not. So you go first, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: what do you think position group they might look to

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Speaker 1: add in.

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Speaker 6: I would think that edge will be one that they

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Speaker 6: maybe keep out there and just kind of keep an

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Speaker 6: eye on. You know, Denico Autry is not an edge player,

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Speaker 6: but he could play out there. I mean Look, you

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Speaker 6: could do that with Logan Hall now too. But beyond

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Speaker 6: Will and Danil, you'd like to see Dylan Horton take

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Speaker 6: another step. You no longer have Derek Barnett, at least

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Speaker 6: you right now you don't. And there are some bigger

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Speaker 6: ticket items out there, some vets that you might be

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Speaker 6: interested in, you know, Cam Jordan and Joey Bosa, etc.

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Speaker 6: Maybe a Von Miller depending on you know, what those

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Speaker 6: guys see as their role going forward.

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Speaker 3: And look the Pittsburghs do it.

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Speaker 6: Just gave Nick Herbig a lot of money and Alex

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Speaker 6: Highsmith already gets paid a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: D J.

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Speaker 3: Watt, the trade deadline get really interesting for you.

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Speaker 6: They get crazy. I don't know you turned out that

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Speaker 6: turn out there Madden, this Sports, that Hot take City.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the position.

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Speaker 3: Is right, position is right. I was messing about TJ. Watt.

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Speaker 3: That didn't happen. But I do think there are some

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Speaker 3: bets that they might be able to look at that.

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Speaker 6: They can say, look, you need you give us ten

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Speaker 6: to fifteen snaps a game.

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Speaker 3: You'll be able to rush the quarterback. You'll be able

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Speaker 3: to rush with Will and Neal.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna open up things for you that might be

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Speaker 6: attractive to net rusher right general.

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Speaker 7: First of all, I'd like to see Plowney come back.

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Speaker 7: I think it'd be a great story. Didn't he have

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Speaker 7: nine sacks last year? Von Miller had nine sacks last year.

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Speaker 7: But I don't think we signed Barnett. I think it's linebacker,

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Speaker 7: without a doubt. They got to have a third linebacker

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Speaker 7: they can count on. You can't count on rookies, you know.

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Speaker 7: I know they've got some candidates, but and plus line

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Speaker 7: as the way the position is being devalued today, unless

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Speaker 7: you're a pass rusher, there's gonna be guys out there,

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Speaker 7: and I could see neck of Sario signing one of

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Speaker 7: those guys at Dimiko Ryans and Matt Burke wanted to

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Speaker 7: bring in. But I'm still hoping Barnett just for what

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Speaker 7: he's done and obviously he's trying to get more.

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Speaker 8: I hope they don't.

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Speaker 7: I hope they haven't told themselves internally we've moved on from.

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Speaker 8: Him and he's not coming back.

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Speaker 7: I hope it's him trying to play some hardball and

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Speaker 7: then he would come to his senses and come back

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Speaker 7: have a chance to play for the best defense in

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Speaker 7: the NFL with a chance to go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Since we're talking about edge rushers.

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Speaker 6: General Miles Garrett traded to the La Rams and then

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Speaker 6: today gets a contract done, I don't an extension and

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Speaker 6: then working some money's.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they did, they got it right. Miles is happy

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 6: Apparently, Miles Garrett traded to the Ram Jared versus and

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Speaker 6: some draft picks go to Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Your thought when you said this, I.

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Speaker 7: Thought that the Rams are a great example of how

644
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Speaker 7: it is horse bleep to hear people say you got

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Speaker 7: to make your Super Bowl run while your quarterback is

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Speaker 7: on his initial contract. That's one of the dumbest things

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Speaker 7: I've ever heard, because teams with quarterbacks with monster contracts

648
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Speaker 7: win the Super Bowl. Now they're going to have to

649
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Speaker 7: pay Puka Nakua as well, and they've added superstars their

650
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Speaker 7: favorite to go to the Super Bowl. Anyway, that division is

651
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 7: going to be great except for the Cardinals. Those two

652
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Speaker 7: games between Seattle and the Rams are gonna be stupendous.

653
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Speaker 7: Miles Garrett's got to feel like he got out of jail.

654
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Speaker 7: Morgan Freeman mehme in the Shaw Shank Redemption leaving prison.

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Speaker 7: Somebody put it out there said Miles Garrett leaving Cleveland. Yep,

656
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Speaker 7: and you know Jared Versus gott to be looking up. God,

657
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Speaker 7: what did I ever do to you? Seeing as he's

658
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Speaker 7: been sentenced to Chloe one and Garrett's in such a

659
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Speaker 7: great situation. Now he's gonna play with some leads in

660
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Speaker 7: the second half and get the tee off on quarterbacks.

661
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 7: But great for him, great for the Rams and the

662
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 7: next His greatest shape is he's in.

663
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Speaker 8: He might be able to play.

664
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Speaker 7: The league thirty five years old, and the Browns will

665
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Speaker 7: probably blow the draft choices.

666
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: Well general along those lines. I'm one who likes the

667
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: deal for Cleveland. I like it a lot. You get

668
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: Jared Verse that's tremendous, and another one and getting Verses

669
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: like a one and a half because he's a first

670
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: round draft choice who can actually play. He's a proven commodity.

671
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Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about it. For the Rams, necessarily, Verse

672
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: was fine. What was wrong with Verse? So now you

673
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: give up a one for Garrett, gotta pay him right,

674
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: and you give up the two and the three down

675
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: the line. I know they don't like picks, they don't

676
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: need them, they don't use them. FM picks and all

677
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: of that. But I'm not that crazy about this deal

678
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: for the Rams. It might work for a year, I guess,

679
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: and that's all they're going to get out of Stafford

680
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: these days.

681
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Speaker 2: Maybe two. I don't know. Maybe I'm just in a

682
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Speaker 2: minority here. I'm not crazy about the deal.

683
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 7: I think you're in the minority because Stafford. If Aaron

684
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Speaker 7: Rodgers can play as long as he's playing, why couldn't

685
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford. He played great last year? What is he

686
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 7: thirty eight? Now gonna turn thirty nine? And I think

687
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 7: as far as Jared Versu, I'm glad you didn't say

688
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 7: he's made the Pro Bowl twice because that doesn't mean

689
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 7: squad anymore, considering any players make the Pro Bowl every year.

690
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 7: And and I'm feel for Verse and maybe they will

691
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 7: do a good job on the draft. They've had two

692
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 7: good drafts in a row in Cleveland. It wouldn't be fair.

693
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 7: You know, He's done a great job rebuilding the Texans,

694
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 7: and he might do a great job rebuilding the team.

695
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 8: That pays him.

696
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Speaker 7: But I still think I could see Stafford and Miles

697
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 7: Garrett be together at least two years, maybe a couple more,

698
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Speaker 7: depending on how Stafford plays and how long he wants

699
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 7: to play, because it's pretty obvious from him doing the

700
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 7: thing on Monday Night replacing Brady that he's interested in

701
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 7: a broadcast career.

702
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 8: But right, they're gonna be fun.

703
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 7: They're gonna first time in history we've had reigning MVP

704
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 7: and Defensive Player of the Year on the same team.

705
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Texas don't play them, at least not now.

706
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 6: And if they do, the play them in so far

707
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl, which would be kind of nice

708
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 6: down the road generally. There was another trade. It was

709
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 6: one of that had been rumored to be happening at

710
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Speaker 6: some point. There was some insiders that had some inside

711
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 6: information on this a few months ago that AJ Brown

712
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 6: would go to the Patriots, and it finally gets done.

713
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 6: The Eagles get back a fifth rounder in twenty seven,

714
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 6: they get back a first rounder in twenty eight, so

715
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Speaker 6: AJ Brown links back up with Mike Vrabel.

716
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Speaker 3: How much of anian.

717
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Speaker 6: Pact you think that makes because the Patriots lose stuff

718
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 6: on digs but they get AJ Brown back. Your thoughts

719
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 6: about that move for the Patriots and the Eagles getting

720
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Speaker 6: rid of a J.

721
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: Brown.

722
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Speaker 8: Diggs had a better year than Brown did. Brown has

723
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 8: become a royal pain in the butt. I bet Jalen.

724
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 7: Earths is so glad that he's out of there. He

725
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 7: was too classy to complain about it. A couple of

726
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 7: the Eagles that talked, you know, they never knew what

727
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 7: was up with Brown. He wasn't that way at Tennessee

728
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 7: when he played with Rabel. Rabel didn't want him traded. Obviously,

729
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 7: Mike warned him to come in there and replace Diggs.

730
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 8: And that's good for Drake May.

731
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 7: But they still have one of the hardest schedules in

732
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 7: the leite and hit in the last twenty years. Last

733
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 7: year they had the easiest in twenty five years. And

734
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 7: Super Bowl losers generally don't do squad. I don't even

735
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 7: think they'll make the playoffs. But AJ Brown maybe he'll

736
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 7: be happy up there. But I don't know what it

737
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 7: is with these wide receivers who have become such divas.

738
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 7: And it makes me think back to Johnson and de

739
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 7: Andre Hopkins. What class X they were when they would

740
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 7: catch the ball and score touchdowns, and you know, they

741
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 7: weren't like so many of them that want to down

742
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: themselves with gasoline and light a match so they can

743
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: get more attention and that's the way Brown has would come.

744
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: And I think the Eagles they drafted the USC receiver

745
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 7: and they'll be fine without it.

746
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: All right, this one's for both of you. I heard

747
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: the NFL radio channel on Serious ex Down.

748
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: They were talking about this.

749
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: Divisions that are locks to be won by a certain

750
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: team and you have to pick at least two.

751
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Can you pick two divisions that are locks?

752
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: In other words, what are the most locked up divisions

753
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: out there? And it's tough, man, what are you willing

754
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: to fictionally, of course bet that a certain team would

755
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: win a certain division and you got to pick two.

756
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: So AFC South, let's leave that alone for now. AFC North,

757
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I would think the Ravens, but you're willing to lay

758
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: that on the line. Jacob Hester thought the Bengals are

759
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna win ten games. I thought that's pretty generous.

760
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 7: But jacob Hester also said last week talking about Stroud,

761
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 7: and I heard this, what could they have done if

762
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 7: they'd have had like Joe Flacco or or Breseet Jacobe

763
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 7: Briseett win a couples and I changed the channel. Dumbest

764
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 7: thing that was, let me back up, that was the

765
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 7: dumbest thing I've ever heard. And we can't leave there,

766
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 7: see see out out of it. I think the Texans

767
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 7: because last time Jacksonville won it, they went down a toilet,

768
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 7: and I'm not saying that's going to happen to them,

769
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: but I feel you know, defense wins championships. They showed

770
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 7: that last year in Seattle that they did have a

771
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 7: great defense, and I think that's going to help the

772
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Speaker 7: Texans win the division. And if I had to pick

773
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 7: another one, I feel strongly about ben I think Sean

774
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 7: Payton's done a great job there. They've gotten better every year,

775
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 7: and I would pick them over the Chargers, who I

776
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 7: think might get a wild card. Chiefs don't know where

777
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 7: they stand, don't know where my homes is, but I

778
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 7: feel good about the Broncos as a Super Bowl contender,

779
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 7: just like the Texans.

780
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Odds makers have the Broncos finishing third as far as

781
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, odds to win the division, the Chargers behind

782
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and the Chargers really yeah, is that amazing

783
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: that they think.

784
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 7: The Chiefs All these rankings I see. I saw one

785
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 7: yesterday in which teams readied ahead of the Texans. It

786
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 7: might have been ESPN. They were five and two against

787
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 7: last year. I'm still trying to figure out how the

788
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 7: underdog get home against the Bills after what they've done

789
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 7: to the Bills.

790
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 8: Now in the last two years.

791
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: The Bengals are favored ot in Vegas in fifteen of

792
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 6: their seventeen of their season games.

793
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: Why are they so high? Lawrence does that for you,

794
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, Dexter Lawrence does that. I'm

795
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: not buying acquisition.

796
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 3: I'm not buying.

797
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 6: I mean, look, Joe Burrow is excellent, and when Burrow

798
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 6: is healthy, they're really good. But are you are you

799
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 6: banking on the Burrow's going to be one thousand percent?

800
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 6: If I had to do it, I would probably say

801
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 6: the Ravens. I would probably say the AFC North because

802
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 6: as I started going through and I'm like, I would

803
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 6: I just look at the AFC East. I want to

804
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 6: say Buffalo, But look, I don't think you can count

805
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: out the team that won the af C last year

806
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 6: with the Patriots. I don't thing you can count them out.

807
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: Can't count them out. I mean thinking the in the

808
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: AFC South, I mean, let's go. I feel like the

809
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 6: Texans in the AFC South, but look the Jaguars, Oh,

810
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 6: you can't count them out.

811
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: You can't.

812
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 6: They're they're really they're really talented in the West. With

813
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 6: the Chargers, I don't know, but the Chiefs, I don't know.

814
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: It's it's tough to make the but I do think

815
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 6: Denver is gonna be really good.

816
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: John Quickly, NFC North, forget it. It's hard to pick, right.

817
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you could pick a winner, but it's hard

818
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: to guarantee it. East Okay Eagles, but yeah, you never know.

819
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: But I think that's a pretty good one too. I

820
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: think Ravens and Eagles.

821
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 8: Think the Cowboys really?

822
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with their work?

823
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 8: I do.

824
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: I think Cowboys are gonna win that win that division.

825
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 7: Philly's not gonna win it three years in a row.

826
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 7: And John, I'm sorry, I forgot about Buffalo. To me,

827
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 7: Buffalo is clearly the best team.

828
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: I think Buffalo is clearly the best team too.

829
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: I just feel like New England is going to be

830
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 6: kind of pesky like they were last year and then

831
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: they messed, and I think Buffalo. There's something missing with Buffalo.

832
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 6: And maybe it was Sean McDermott. Maybe he was the problem.

833
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 6: I don't know, but if that feels like a team

834
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 6: that should be better than what they were last year

835
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: even and I know they made the playoffs.

836
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: I get that.

837
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Okay, General, we have to ask you about this, the

838
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: dam Pastor Reedi documentary. Oh yeah, I want to talk

839
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: about this every week until it's done. And I've watched

840
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: it because I am so intrigued by this.

841
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: I love the idea.

842
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it, and I don't know

843
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: what else to say about it, but tell us more

844
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: about the dot there.

845
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 7: When I interviewed Dan for two hours Monday, and we

846
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 7: had three different places we do in interviews. Armadillo on

847
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 7: Kirby they are closed on Monday, and they know our

848
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 7: director Mark Burns, and they let us use that back area.

849
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 7: It's a great spot. We go to Houstonian and then

850
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 7: we go to our executive producer, Scott Nethery's high Rise

851
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 7: because they have a great media room. We get And

852
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 7: so I interviewed Mike Barber, Dan's tight end, one of

853
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 7: his tight ends, and Mike was fantastic telling Pastorini stories

854
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 7: and and and then me and Joe Green was in

855
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: town and and Dan has told the story with Joe

856
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 7: President a couple of times when I've been with them

857
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 7: for auction items people got and how Joe hit Dan

858
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 7: in his back and broke the transverse processed bons in

859
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 7: his lower back and Dan never left the game.

860
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 8: And then.

861
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 7: When Dan got in there, I had made four pages

862
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 7: notes and seventy percent of them were off the field him.

863
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 7: And I'll have to tell you, guys, some of them

864
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 7: off away from doing it publicly like we're doing now,

865
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 7: because Dan has got some unbelievable stories, and some of

866
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 7: them about football. But at the time Dan was on

867
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 7: Fantasy Island and he's talking about Jill Saint John and

868
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 7: Ricardo Monteblanc, Urvey Villa Chees or wherever you pronounce it,

869
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 7: because the guest, yeah, he was in Killer Fish and

870
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 7: one of the actors besides Lee Majors, was James Franciscus,

871
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 7: who was big time then.

872
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 8: And they had two days off.

873
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 7: That Dan convinced Francisco's to fly from South America to

874
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 7: Baytown and party, and they.

875
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 8: Did turn around and went back. And Barber's first day at.

876
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 7: Training camp when he was a rookie in seventy six

877
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 7: and Dan tell him a rookie grabbing overnight back, we're

878
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 7: going to Dallas.

879
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Speaker 4: He so we got two days.

880
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 8: In the morning, I'm gonna get cut and he says,

881
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 8: you're with me, you will not get cut.

882
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 7: And when they came in and they missed the first

883
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 7: one and bum Phillips saw him. Barber's like, oh god,

884
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get cut before I ever get on the

885
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 7: practice field. Bum said, if you guys have a good time,

886
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 7: and Dan goes, yes, sir, we did.

887
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 8: Okay, good boys, now get out on the field.

888
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 7: And Bum told Bum told Barber later there's alphas, and

889
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 7: there's dogs, and then there's alpha dogs, and that man

890
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 7: is our alpha dog. And they had a quarterback competition

891
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 7: on the network. They brought in all the big quarterbacks

892
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 7: to Hawhite and they measured how far they threw. Well,

893
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 7: Terry Bradshaw through sixty five yards, nobody else was that close.

894
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 7: And then it was Dan's turn eighty seven yards. Then

895
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Speaker 7: it was Bob Greasey's turn, and Bob Greasey said, I'm

896
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 7: gonna beat your throat and everybody wanted to bet on it.

897
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 7: Grease he took the ball at the go line, he

898
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 7: went to the fifty and then threw it farther. Kilmer

899
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 7: was up with Jim Plunket on the balcony on the

900
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 7: fifth floor, said pastoring you see if you can throw

901
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 7: it this far, and he threw a ten story and

902
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 7: everybody's cheering, and Kilmer goes, yeah, but his receiver was

903
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 7: on the fifth floor.

904
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: That's funny.

905
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: That's great, General, thanks so much. We'll talk more about

906
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: it as you get closer to completion. We appreciate the

907
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: time as always.

908
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 8: Guys, thank you very much.

909
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: As always, coming up stuff from around the league if

910
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: I feel like talking about it, but I feel like

911
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: talking about the Texans, and Nick Caley was at the podium,

912
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: so let's hear a little bit from Nick and maybe

913
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: some other stuff before the close of business. Today it's

914
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: Texas All Access final segment here.

915
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Okay, during the.

916
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Break, I'm going to my phone to try to look

917
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: for latest tweets on things.

918
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: And does this happen everybody?

919
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: You open your phone and then you see something else

920
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: other than what you were going into your phone for

921
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: in the first place, and you get distracted, You go

922
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: down a wormhole, and all of a sudden, we're running

923
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: in a break and now it's back to the show.

924
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: So here we are Texans at OTA's today. Nick Caley

925
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Going into year two, he was asked about

926
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: a number of things, including his relationship with the quarterback

927
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: CJ Stroud.

928
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 9: And no, I mean I've always had a good relationship

929
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 9: with CJ. You know, we always have transparent, honest conversations.

930
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 9: But I think it's like anything you're two, you're always

931
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 9: trying to dive deeper, to continue to expand those the

932
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 9: finer points of the relationship.

933
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: But it's great.

934
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 9: I mean, we get the talk ball, We're highly collaborative.

935
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: There's great.

936
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 9: He has great perspective on he sees the game really,

937
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 9: really well, and so I've had a blast being around

938
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 9: him every single day, just like last year, you know,

939
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 9: and we've gotten to take it a step further, just

940
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 9: more time on task, more time you know, in the

941
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 9: film room, more opportunities to evolve and do some different

942
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 9: things here from an offensive standpoint, and it's been a

943
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 9: it's been.

944
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Hell of a lot of fun.

945
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: What about the offense as a whole in year two.

946
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: It's growth.

947
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 9: It's year two, right, it should be we should be

948
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 9: further along, So you know, you talk about just overall

949
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 9: understanding of the offense. You know, last year we're teaching

950
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 9: the language for the first time. At this time of

951
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 9: the year, it's the what is this concept, what's it called?

952
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 9: What are the details of it? I think you know,

953
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 9: throughout the course of the year last year, there's things

954
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 9: that we did this time of the year that we

955
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 9: ended up getting away from for a variety of reasons,

956
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 9: whether that was not really fitting what we wanted to do. Personnel,

957
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 9: So you get a chance to look back. Now you

958
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 9: have guys that have experience in the system, in the

959
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 9: verbage all right, and now we're we're step ahead. Things

960
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 9: are processing faster. Most of these guys that we started

961
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 9: with in Phase two were here, the vast majority of them,

962
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 9: So the intent of what we were doing, we were

963
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 9: already ahead of that. And then it's refining all those things.

964
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 9: How can we make them better? How can we learn

965
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 9: from things last year, good and bad? And we did

966
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 9: that and grew collectively, And I think that's the the

967
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 9: best thing, you know, I've taken from this spring is

968
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 9: just the hungry, ambitious group of guys, coaches and players

969
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 9: that are all just trying to continue to get better

970
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 9: and work together. And it's been a good progression, and

971
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 9: there's still plenty it's still out in front of us,

972
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 9: got a ways to go, but I've been very, very

973
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 9: pleased with where we're at year two as opposed to

974
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Speaker 9: a year ago.

975
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of hungry and ambitious, what about the offensive line

976
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Speaker 1: especially hungry.

977
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, they love football, they want to be coached, They're tough,

978
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 9: They've got the right mindset and mentality every single day

979
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 9: we're out there, and I've seen continuous growth. I mean, surely, look,

980
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 9: the pads don't come on now until we get the

981
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 9: training camp.

982
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: That's the truest measure.

983
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 9: But we got a bunch of guys that embrace physical toughness,

984
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 9: and you know, I'm excited about that.

985
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm excited about the direction.

986
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 9: Cole Popovitch does an outstanding job, Alex Ward helping him

987
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 9: to those guys do a really good job. And it's

988
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 9: been it's been positive. Learning techniques. We've got some new

989
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 9: bodies here, so you talk about learning, some guys, I

990
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 9: have to learn a different way to do things. Are

991
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 9: we gonna hit double teams differently, combination blocks differently? And

992
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 9: that's part of the growth process in phase two, phase three,

993
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 9: and we got to carry that over to training camp.

994
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 9: But I'm really happy with the progress and I'm excited

995
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 9: about the group of guys that we got in that room.

996
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: All Right, there's offensive coordinator Nick Caley. After practice today,

997
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: Matt Burke also spoke along with special teams coordinator Frank Ross. Burke,

998
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: of course the defensive coordinator calling plays last year for

999
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: that side of the football and did a very good

1000
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: job at it. And maybe we'll hear some of their

1001
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: comments tomorrow as we are running out of show stuff

1002
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: from around the league. Isn't it interesting that Madden did

1003
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: not have the tush push until now Madden twenty seven

1004
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: with the tush push. I'm terrible at Madden. I just

1005
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: run slants a lot. I'm not good at running all

1006
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: the controls because I just don't play it much. You know,

1007
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm from the old school of video games. Okay, these

1008
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: kids today, kids today, so good at it. Did you

1009
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: see the story about Jared Vers taking Dylan Gabriel's number

1010
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: without asking him? You just put on the number eight

1011
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: practice Jersey went out there for the Cleveland Browns. I

1012
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: think that's kind of funny. It's kind of a bully move,

1013
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: but I respect it. So why not tomorrow night we

1014
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: might do some of the Sean and Seth conversation with

1015
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario. They talked to him for a while on Wednesday,

1016
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna run some of that back

1017
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: because it's so good when the Executive Vice president and GM.

1018
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: Is on with those guys.

1019
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Among other things that are gonna come up on the

1020
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: program tomorrow, can't wait for that. Area forty five is

1021
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: coming up next, can't wait for them. Have a great night,

1022
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: Go Texans.