WEBVTT - CFB Jam: The Finals 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.720 Welcome to the Solid Verbal. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.440 I'll that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.639 heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.000 you want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:14.440 is that woof woof? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:20.400 And them and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.319 Boys and girls, my name is ty Hildebrandt, joining me 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:28.640 as always over there, still in the wonderland of Chicago, Illinois, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.440 the one and only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.200 A little foggy? A little achy? I got shot number 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.560 two yesterday and it was a jab. I got the jab, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.479 and I feel a lot better. It was a sore morning, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.880 an achy sore morning. But I'm persevering. I'm sitting down 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.520 for this episode. Normally I stand when we do these, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.479 but I want to give you my full focus, and 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.120 I feel like that's you're not getting that if we 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.000 are doing our what is this that we're doing Sweet 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.800 sixteen and Elite eight And I don't know how far 0:00:58.840 --> 0:00:59.279 we can go. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:00.720 I don't even know what we're down to. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:02.960 I think it's a Sweet sixteen. I think we came 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.880 up with thirty two plus one and then we're going 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:09.480 to insert we need a Georgia person next to Dan Pollock. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.280 If we're going to do that direction, I know we've 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:18.919 talked about doing Matt Stafford and Ajgreen, Gino Atkins Violent 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.039 Angry Bowling Ball. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.960 Right, I mean, do we have any policy with swapping 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.000 out some of these it's our show, it's our show. Yeah, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.200 it's true, it is true. 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.000 Okay, we promise nothing. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.720 Well, welcome back in. I'm ty. He's Dan Soliverble at 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.560 gmail dot com is where you can email us if 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.160 you're I don't know, interested in doing so, you got 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.760 something to get off your chest. 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After 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.560 the fact, Georgia thankfully made it through with Matt Stafford 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.200 and AJ Green. We're now down to the sweet sixteen. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.320 So I think if time permits, and we should have 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.360 enough time, we can go through each of these matchups, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.080 we can select our winners, and we can eventually get 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.119 to some conclusion where we're determining the best college football 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.560 dynamic duo at associated positions in the last twenty years. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.400 I'm going to be more specific, it's not necessarily the 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.280 best I want to be as somebody who completely invented 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.600 this out of thin air. It is the person who 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:14.400 arouses your college football senses the most. Percy Harvin probably 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.200 not the best college football player of all time. All 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:18.600 go as far as saying he's not the best college 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.800 football player of all time, No, but what he's able 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.800 to do in the open field, or what he was 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.280 able to do in the open field at Florida is 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:30.720 something that's indescribable that maybe a crazy efficient quarterback like 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.159 I would say that Percy Harvin would advance over Trevor Lawrence. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:37.080 Yeah. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.920 Right, with Yeah, there's we're sort of gauging electricity and 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.840 pants tightening is with the phrase I used the other day. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.120 So there is. It's that electricity quotient. And now that 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.440 could be large dudes up the middle, that could be 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.320 you know, anything. Positionwise, they're associated positions. So like somebody 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.000 asked us about von Miller and Miles Garrett and we said, well, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.680 sort of an outside linebacker and defensive vent edge players. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.840 We want like a Stockton Malone. We wanted that, you know, 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.840 Peyton Kemp element of NBA jam where you have two 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.159 players who compliment each other but don't play the exact 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.359 same position, because that, to me, was the way you 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.960 played that game and approached strategizing which team you would select. Right, Okay, 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.719 so pants, that's the explanation pants tightening. It's a very 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.680 scientific measure that we're going with here. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.560 We're going to play this. I think by ear because 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.080 I used I think both of my overrides okay last 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.280 time around, and you may have used one. I don't know, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.520 but either way, you have one override that I do 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.200 not have. We also, as you said, can make up 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.440 rules as we go. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.680 You know, it's our cones of dun sure. Yeah, if we. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.840 Want to swap anybody out, we can. We can do that. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.480 So why don't we start here at the very top. 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.320 It's a classic, shall we say, Rose Bowl potential matchup 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:04.560 between your Organ Ducks and the Wisconsin Badgers, Dan Badgers. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.280 They've they've literally played, you know, I was both twenty 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:11.000 eleven with Russell Wilson and Anthony Thomas involved. So we 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.279 have Marcus Mariota and d Anthony Thomas taking on Russell 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.680 Wilson and Melvin Gordon. Just in terms of pure electricity, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.560 pure you know, making you sweat, making your you know, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.040 heartbeat is tho is the word I'm looking for, palpitations. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.560 I think this is an easy decision. I think this 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:24.680 is Mariot and de Anthony. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.520 I think it's got to be Marcus and de Anthony. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:29.480 Yeah. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.920 For as good as Russell Wilson was, and for as 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:38.440 much fun as we had with Melgre love Melgre, I agree, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:45.560 Mary was sensational, sensational. Mariota and Thomas though, that's that's 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.360 gonna be tough to beat in my view. Yeah. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:52.599 Also, Mariota had four years of memories for you Yeah, yeah, 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.240 twelve thirteen, now three years, three years of starting memories, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.440 so you know, we just didn't have that with Russell 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.280 Wilson and Wisconsin. So I mean, I think the advantage 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.479 in terms of big playmaking goes to Oregon, and so 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:05.760 that's the direction I think we should do. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.160 We had a lot of debate over I think I 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.680 may have even used an override to get Wisconsin through 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:17.080 over Baylor. Insane with RG three and Kendall Wright. Would 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.480 you have gone RG three and Kendall Right over Marcus 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.000 Mariota and d Anthony Thomas? 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.920 Probably not. You have two Heisman winning quarterbacks who were 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.320 dual threats. Obviously RG three a little bit faster, the 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.320 top end speed is there. D' Anthony Thomas's versatility takes 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.239 me over Kendall Right with his ability in the return 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.320 game and as a receiver he played a position called 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.760 the taser, the tad az R and sort of his 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.440 slot back position. He would line up all over the field. Yeah, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.400 the Z receiver. So I would not have taken Baylor 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.840 over Oregon. But that's what is that? A Lake seastrunk 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.240 match up. I'm trying to find the connective tissue something 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.560 like that. But no, I go Oregon. There as a Homer. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:00.560 This next one is unfair. It's unfair these two are 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.000 going to be matched up against each other. But look, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.080 it was probably gonna happen sooner or later. Anyway, We've 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.240 got USC with our dynamic duo of Matt Liner and 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.800 Reggie Bush squaring off against Texas A and m Johnny 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:20.760 Manzel and Mike Evans. We're going to lose sleep over 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.560 this matchup. I feel like I could lose. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.440 I don't think it's that difficult because you're comparing two 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:29.360 electric players to one. Now. The one in Reggie Bush 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.000 is amazing, But I don't know if you've ever seen 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:31.960 Matt Liner run. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:33.640 I've seen Matt Liner run. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.000 He runs like and not that that's the responsibility a quarterback, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.920 but with electricity, we need some athleticism. We need something 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.480 in terms of like physical ability. And he read a defense, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.080 didn't have a big arm and was just crazy successful 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.360 at USC. But Matt Liner kind of runs like a 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.760 monkey stole his wallet in Cambodia. He's just making every 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.360 attempt in his tourist clothes to run after something and 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.600 it's not going to work out. So I think I'm 0:08:58.600 --> 0:08:59.880 going JFF and Mike. 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.679 But is there not any kind of nostalgia value to 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:08.760 the Bush era of USC football. I mean you didn't 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.439 even want to put linerd in here. You wanted Carson Palmer. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.720 Yeah, I mean Carson Palmer has the physical capability. His 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.560 arm was just enormous. If you were starting a football 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.640 team in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.680 would there be any question to you whether you'd run 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.679 Matt Liner, Reggie Bush, and or Johnny Manzil Mike evans. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.960 Man. It's tough not to go. Reggie Bush. It's tough 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.079 not to go. I hear you clearly. For you, the 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:42.719 pants tightening is coming via physical tools. 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:44.960 If this were a literal video game, who would be 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.640 more fun to play with? Is that what you want 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:53.000 to do? Who would you rather? You know, after eating 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.439 your Tomorrow and your orange Julius in the mall, do 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.320 you understand those reference? I? Okay, and you sidle up 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.000 into the Golden Nugget Arcade whatever it's called that your 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.200 local mall? What was your local mall called? Growing up? 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.640 We have? Yeah? 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.480 Are you selecting Matt Liner and Reggie Bush knowing you're 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.320 gonna have to like buy time and throw the ball 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.560 downfield and like an NFL blitz style game. I know 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.920 that was more players than just two, but are you 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.280 going to select Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.840 If we are using NBA JAM as our go by. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.600 Here whatever college football dunk is. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.040 Yeah, there there is a Muggsy Bogues quality to Matt 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.360 Liner in that he was very limited, sure, very limited 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.960 in the game. Fun to play with, but limited in 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.880 the game. Reggie Bush, though, Reggie Bush is just you're 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.880 picking this team because of him, explicitly. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:47.880 Sure. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.679 With that, With that being said, now yeah again, NBA 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.200 JAM is the go by. Manzell is very versatile and 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.959 fun as hell, and Mike Evans was just a freak records. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.120 So I mean it comes down to what are we 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.280 using as that pants tightening variable? For you, it seems 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.560 to be the physical tools you're you're all about that. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.920 For me, Look, maybe I'm an old school romantic. I 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:19.120 don't know, but the nostalgia, man, the nostalgia of Liner 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.640 and Bush, to me, I still think rules out here. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.920 You think, no, absolutely, Matt Liner. It's like a video 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:27.640 game out there. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.440 No, no one's ever said that. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:34.520 No, I'm not this game after not to. 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:40.439 Find what leads to the pants tightening. So for me, their. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.319 Physical physical attraction to their abilities. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:44.560 For you, that's what it is. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:44.840 For me. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.560 There's a nostalgia factor here. 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.400 I'm over writing going Jff and Evans. I mean it's 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:53.120 just a no brainer. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.000 I'm fine at that selection. I mean, okay, I said 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.280 going in this is going to be impossibly difficult. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.560 Could you imagine any like who would Matt Liner be 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.280 if he were a street fighter character? 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:06.120 Like? 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.880 I couldn't make cases for most of these guys. You 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.720 have a big arm, you're sort of a huge defensive 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.960 tackle like. There's analogs there. 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.920 But you need to define what the measure is here 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:18.960 for who's making it through and who isn't? Is it 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.360 the pants tightening thing? And if so, what about the 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.120 pants tightening? Are we allowed to pick otherwise? Is it 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.360 a video game thing? Who would you like to play. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.240 In a video game? 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.280 You need to pick here, Dan, this is your game. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.679 You need to tell me what the rules of the 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:34.840 road are here when. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.160 You play a video game? Is there an ability bar 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.200 for nostalgia? Generally? 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:40.880 You did not define this game. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.880 It is whatever we wanted to did. It's an electricity, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:44.800 all right. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.360 Reggie Bush is the most electric player in the last 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:49.160 twenty five years. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.520 Yeah, we could even have a more nuanced conversation if 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.319 it we're like Sam Darnold and Reggie Bush. Oh my god, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.520 no respect for a liner is an electric video game 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:02.360 esque player. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.000 All right, fine, fine, have it your way, use your overhead. 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.360 I know you got destroyed by him on fourth down. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.240 I didn't in South Bend. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.920 I really did, no personally. Yeah, okay, fair enough that 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.960 that's a good override. Dan amazing quarterback, probably better than 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.040 my Wisconsin override. But well, you know, I applaud you 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:25.320 for using it smartly. Florida with Tim Tebow and Percy 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:33.720 Harvin or Texas and Vince Young Jamal Charles. So look, 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.559 if we are going to follow the same logic as 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.440 that previous matchup, this should be a clear winner in 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.280 the t Bow and Harvin direction, shouldn't it? 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:49.559 Not? Necessarily? I would argue that Vince Young is a 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.720 lot more athletic and electric a player than Matt Lioner. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.760 Sure, but what about Jamal Charles? 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.680 Amazing and I'm very good running back for Texas. Amazing, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.000 amazing running back. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.280 But I feel like you've got two stand out electric 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.280 players on the Florida side. And sure, Jamal Charles is 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.160 really good. All these guys are really good. But the 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.400 standout on the Texas side is Vince Young. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.120 Well, I mean, this whole game is subjective. Vince Young 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.800 physically is in a class with very few other players 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.320 at quarterback or with the ball in his hands to 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.120 be able to move that quickly with the ball and 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.920 play that most important position. Tim Tebow really strong runner, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:36.480 obviously strong power runner between the tackles. Vince Young, I 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.520 would say, had a bigger performance on the biggest stage. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.000 I don't think that's a take of any kind, more 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.560 so than what Tim Tebow is able to do on 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.360 that same stage. Percy Harvin a more electric player than 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.480 Jamal Charles, a more versatile player with what he did 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.040 in the return game. It's a receiver taking sweeps out 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.720 of the backfield. This is tough because Vince Young has 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.120 the highest ceiling I think of any of these players. Yes, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:02.880 and you could make that case for Reggie Bush as 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.560 well in the previous matchup. I understand if I were 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.760 playing college football jam the video game with the Golden Nugget, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.160 who would I be more likely to play with? I 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.040 think it's Florida. 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:15.680 It's got to be Florida, right. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.520 I think Harvin is like, it's just a subjective thing. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.920 When you have that much speed, that can do that much, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.680 I think I'm going t Bow and Harvin. Yeah, I 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.520 think it's so difficult for me. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.600 I think I agree. I think I think I got 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.000 to agree with you here. Dan. You know, we talk 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.760 about Vince Young as a generational player, but Tebow's up there, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.960 of course, is one of the greatest quarterbacks in the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.120 history of college football. Maybe not guite Heisman as a 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:46.480 sophomore basically imposing as as view why, but nonetheless just 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.720 an incredible body of work. Got to be t Bow 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:50.880 and Harvin gotta be. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.240 Oh yeah, and Jamal Charles was pretty good out of 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.840 the backfield, but it was like, you know, one hundred 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.240 and some odd yards a season, whereas Percy Harvin just 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.440 all over the place everywhere. So I get it. I mean, 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.600 Jamal Charles went for eighteen hundred yards from scrimmage his 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.440 final season two thousand and seven for Texas. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.240 Not bad, No, not bout it all. Okay, this next 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.520 matchup I think has potential to be very interesting. Okay, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:22.840 We've got for Florida Jamis Winston and Dalvin Cook. Uh 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:28.080 huh Florida State. Excuse me, for Tennessee, we've got Albert Haynesworth. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:29.000 Derek Barnett. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:36.800 Yeah, it's another personal preference. So you have ball movement 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:43.120 versus ball destruction. Right, So Dalvin Cook fantastic with the ball. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.200 An all time running back for Florida State, Jamis Winston, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.120 of course, highlighted by his twenty thirteen an all time 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.600 successful quarterback, not necessarily a big time athlete, but just 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.000 pinpoint at quarterback for Florida State, and just let an 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:02.000 all time attack Albert Haynesworth Derek Barnett. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:02.760 Man. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.040 Yeah, this is. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:14.200 Interesting because we've got two defenders against two incredible offensive talents. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.840 Yeah. So it's the magnitude of their ability to control 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:18.240 a game. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:24.399 Correct, correct? Man? 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.000 How many? How many teams have had noses or defensive 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.479 tackles like Albert Haynesworth? Many Since that happened, We've had 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.760 a lot of really strong quarterbacks and it doesn't have 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.040 to be a unique quotient to it. It's just what 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.800 they were able to do themselves in the game. We've 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.040 had a lot of great pass rushers like Derek Barnett, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.520 but a lot of good you know, all purpose running 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:51.399 backs like Dalvin Cook, oh Man, in terms of pure 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.000 video game, who you'd want to play with. 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.840 I mean, Dalvin Cook should not be overlooked here, Dalvin Cook. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.359 Dalvin Cook had touchdowns so freaking good. In each of 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:06.760 his last two seasons as Florida State running back. Came 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.240 really close to seventeen hundred yards and twenty fifteen went 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.280 over seventeen hundred yards. In twenty sixteen, did a lot 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.959 more from scrimmage in the passing game. His final year 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.600 at Florida State finished with something like I think it 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.240 was close to twenty three hundred yards. 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.280 I'm gonna go Jamison and Dalvin Jamison, Jamis and Dalvin. Yeah, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.040 that's I guess what happens when you put their names together. Yeah, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.800 that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, just that twenty 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.640 thirteen season was just Jamis was unstoppable that year. Yeah, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.920 and that was his red shirt freshman freshman ye opener. Yeah, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.400 when he started out like twenty four of twenty five 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:42.919 or something. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:47.719 Unstoppable to throw and complete sixty seven percent of your 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.919 passes for over four thousand yards and forty touchdowns as 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.920 a freshman. Mm hmm is quite the accomplishment, stupid. Yeah, 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.760 and this wasn't even necessarily like a pass happy system 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.879 like it was a pretty balanced offense at the time 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.280 where they could do a bunch of different things, and 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.680 Jamis was just a clear standout. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:11.000 Yeah, I'm going Jamis there, Jamis. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.480 It is next Notre Dame with Mike McGlinchey and Quintin 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:20.800 Nelson squaring off against Miami Ed Reid an Entrell Role. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.920 Ah Man, these are two of my favorite football players 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.520 of all time, in Quentin Nelson and Ed Reid. I'm 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.720 going to go Miami because if you're talking purely about 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.879 video game, you're talking about an emotion that comes with 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.440 the character you're playing with. And I get more of 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.840 an emotion from Ed Reid and Antrell role, who played 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.080 all over the field, But I mean ed Reid was 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.520 a pure safety andrel role played good amount of corner. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.680 I like Mike mcglinchy a good deal, but I don't 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.760 think he pops in the way that Quentin Nelson did. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.960 Former top ten, top ten ish pick. I believe Mike McGlinchey. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.680 Yeah, ninth overall, Quentin Nelson went sixth, and I believe 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:01.680 McGlinchey went ninth. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.760 Nice. I I could watch Quentin Nelson Notre Dame highlights, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.639 especially that hit I think it was on Georgia. He 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.320 might have had a big hit on Lcu as well. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.640 I could watch those all day. I don't have those 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.520 for Mike McGlinchey. I feel like I have highlights for 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.800 Edward and Entrell role that are more attractive than that duo. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.600 So I'm gonna go Miami here in our Catholics First 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:23.440 Convicts matchup. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.000 Yeah, the answer here is ed Reid, Nontrell, Roll Dan. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.720 It has to be. I love mcglinchy, I love Nelson. 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.720 There is definitely a nostalgia in looking back at that 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.399 era of Notre Dame's offensive line. At one point they 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:43.680 actually had Nelson mcglinchy and Ronnie Stanley on the offensive 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.080 line at the same time. That was before they moved 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.399 McGlinchey over to left tackle, who was playing right tackle 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.360 when Ronnie Stanley was on the line. But I look 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.000 back at it with almost a frustrated nostalgia that they 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.760 that those teams didn't do better because they had such 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.119 a boss offense of line. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.679 Yeah, I mean they had big running back seasons, so 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.120 that was what Josh Adams had a big year in there. Yeah, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.920 I believe, but you know, the trigger man. The quarterback 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.320 position was never never lived up to what the offensive 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.360 line put forward as the standing. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.480 Incredible offensive line. And so I look in I see 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.240 mcglinchy Nelson for sure, that's that's a tag team. But 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.480 Entrell roll ed Reid. There's just like so much dynamic 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.280