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Speaker 1: And them and Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're down to.

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Speaker 2: to insert we need a Georgia person next to Dan Pollock.

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Speaker 1: going College Football Jam Round two plus Yeah thirty three

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Speaker 1: teams actually on the Tuesday show because we had a

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Speaker 1: and AJ Green. We're now down to the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: So I think if time permits, and we should have

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Speaker 1: enough time, we can go through each of these matchups,

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Speaker 1: we can select our winners, and we can eventually get

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Speaker 1: to some conclusion where we're determining the best college football

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Speaker 1: dynamic duo at associated positions in the last twenty years.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be more specific, it's not necessarily the

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Speaker 2: Right, with Yeah, there's we're sort of gauging electricity and

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Speaker 2: So there is. It's that electricity quotient. And now that

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Speaker 2: We want like a Stockton Malone. We wanted that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Peyton Kemp element of NBA jam where you have two

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Speaker 2: played that game and approached strategizing which team you would select. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so pants, that's the explanation pants tightening. It's a very

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Speaker 2: scientific measure that we're going with here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play this. I think by ear because

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Speaker 1: I used I think both of my overrides okay last

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Speaker 1: not have. We also, as you said, can make up

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Speaker 2: You know, it's our cones of dun sure. Yeah, if we.

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Speaker 1: Want to swap anybody out, we can. We can do that.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start here at the very top.

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Speaker 1: It's a classic, shall we say, Rose Bowl potential matchup

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Speaker 1: between your Organ Ducks and the Wisconsin Badgers, Dan Badgers.

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Speaker 2: They've they've literally played, you know, I was both twenty

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Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Marcus and de Anthony.

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Speaker 1: For as good as Russell Wilson was, and for as

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Speaker 1: Mary was sensational, sensational. Mariota and Thomas though, that's that's

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Speaker 2: Also, Mariota had four years of memories for you Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the direction I think we should do.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of debate over I think I

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Speaker 1: may have even used an override to get Wisconsin through

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Speaker 1: over Baylor. Insane with RG three and Kendall Wright. Would

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Speaker 2: me over Kendall Right with his ability in the return

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Speaker 2: over Oregon. But that's what is that? A Lake seastrunk

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Speaker 2: match up. I'm trying to find the connective tissue something

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Speaker 2: like that. But no, I go Oregon. There as a Homer.

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Speaker 1: This next one is unfair. It's unfair these two are

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Speaker 1: going to be matched up against each other. But look,

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Speaker 1: it was probably gonna happen sooner or later. Anyway, We've

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Speaker 1: Manzel and Mike Evans. We're going to lose sleep over

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Speaker 1: this matchup. I feel like I could lose.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's that difficult because you're comparing two

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Speaker 2: electric players to one. Now. The one in Reggie Bush

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Speaker 2: is amazing, But I don't know if you've ever seen

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Speaker 2: Matt Liner run.

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Speaker 1: I've seen Matt Liner run.

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Speaker 2: He runs like and not that that's the responsibility a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: but with electricity, we need some athleticism. We need something

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Speaker 2: in terms of like physical ability. And he read a defense,

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Speaker 2: didn't have a big arm and was just crazy successful

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Speaker 2: at USC. But Matt Liner kind of runs like a

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Speaker 2: monkey stole his wallet in Cambodia. He's just making every

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Speaker 2: it's not going to work out. So I think I'm

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Speaker 2: going JFF and Mike.

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Speaker 1: But is there not any kind of nostalgia value to

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Speaker 1: the Bush era of USC football. I mean you didn't

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Speaker 1: even want to put linerd in here. You wanted Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Carson Palmer has the physical capability. His

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Speaker 2: arm was just enormous. If you were starting a football

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Speaker 2: team in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: would there be any question to you whether you'd run

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Speaker 2: Matt Liner, Reggie Bush, and or Johnny Manzil Mike evans.

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Speaker 1: Man. It's tough not to go. Reggie Bush. It's tough

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Speaker 1: not to go. I hear you clearly. For you, the

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Speaker 1: pants tightening is coming via physical tools.

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Speaker 2: If this were a literal video game, who would be

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Speaker 2: more fun to play with? Is that what you want

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Speaker 2: to do? Who would you rather? You know, after eating

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Speaker 2: your Tomorrow and your orange Julius in the mall, do

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Speaker 2: you understand those reference? I? Okay, and you sidle up

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Speaker 2: into the Golden Nugget Arcade whatever it's called that your

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Speaker 2: local mall? What was your local mall called? Growing up?

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Speaker 1: We have? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are you selecting Matt Liner and Reggie Bush knowing you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to like buy time and throw the ball

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Speaker 2: downfield and like an NFL blitz style game. I know

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Speaker 2: that was more players than just two, but are you

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Speaker 2: going to select Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: If we are using NBA JAM as our go by.

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Speaker 2: Here whatever college football dunk is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there there is a Muggsy Bogues quality to Matt

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Speaker 1: Liner in that he was very limited, sure, very limited

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Speaker 1: in the game. Fun to play with, but limited in

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Speaker 1: the game. Reggie Bush, though, Reggie Bush is just you're

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Speaker 1: picking this team because of him, explicitly.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 1: With that, With that being said, now yeah again, NBA

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Speaker 1: JAM is the go by. Manzell is very versatile and

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Speaker 1: fun as hell, and Mike Evans was just a freak records.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it comes down to what are we

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Speaker 1: using as that pants tightening variable? For you, it seems

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Speaker 1: to be the physical tools you're you're all about that.

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Speaker 1: For me, Look, maybe I'm an old school romantic. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but the nostalgia, man, the nostalgia of Liner

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Speaker 1: and Bush, to me, I still think rules out here.

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Speaker 2: You think, no, absolutely, Matt Liner. It's like a video

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Speaker 2: game out there.

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Speaker 1: No, no one's ever said that.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not this game after not to.

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Speaker 1: Find what leads to the pants tightening. So for me, their.

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Speaker 2: Physical physical attraction to their abilities.

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Speaker 1: For you, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 1: There's a nostalgia factor here.

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Speaker 2: I'm over writing going Jff and Evans. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I'm fine at that selection. I mean, okay, I said

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine any like who would Matt Liner be

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: I couldn't make cases for most of these guys. You

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Speaker 1: But you need to define what the measure is here

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Speaker 1: a video game thing? Who would you like to play.

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Speaker 2: In a video game?

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Speaker 1: You need to pick here, Dan, this is your game.

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Speaker 2: You play a video game? Is there an ability bar

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Speaker 2: for nostalgia? Generally?

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Speaker 1: You did not define this game.

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Speaker 2: It is whatever we wanted to did. It's an electricity,

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush is the most electric player in the last

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could even have a more nuanced conversation if

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Speaker 2: it we're like Sam Darnold and Reggie Bush. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: no respect for a liner is an electric video game

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Speaker 1: All right, fine, fine, have it your way, use your overhead.

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Speaker 2: I know you got destroyed by him on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: I didn't in South Bend.

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Speaker 1: that's a good override. Dan amazing quarterback, probably better than

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Speaker 1: for using it smartly. Florida with Tim Tebow and Percy

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Speaker 2: Not? Necessarily? I would argue that Vince Young is a

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Speaker 2: Amazing and I'm very good running back for Texas. Amazing,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like you've got two stand out electric

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this whole game is subjective. Vince Young

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Speaker 2: playing college football jam the video game with the Golden Nugget,

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Speaker 2: who would I be more likely to play with? I

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Speaker 2: think it's Florida.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Florida, right.

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Speaker 2: I think Harvin is like, it's just a subjective thing.

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Speaker 2: When you have that much speed, that can do that much,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm going t Bow and Harvin. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I think I agree. I think I think I got

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Speaker 1: to agree with you here. Dan. You know, we talk

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Speaker 1: an incredible body of work. Got to be t Bow

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Jamal Charles was pretty good out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield, but it was like, you know, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and some odd yards a season, whereas Percy Harvin just

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Speaker 2: all over the place everywhere. So I get it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Jamal Charles went for eighteen hundred yards from scrimmage his

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Speaker 1: Not bad, No, not bout it all. Okay, this next

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Speaker 1: matchup I think has potential to be very interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've got for Florida Jamis Winston and Dalvin Cook. Uh

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Speaker 1: huh Florida State. Excuse me, for Tennessee, we've got Albert Haynesworth.

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Speaker 1: Derek Barnett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's another personal preference. So you have ball movement

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Speaker 2: versus ball destruction. Right, So Dalvin Cook fantastic with the ball.

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Speaker 2: An all time running back for Florida State, Jamis Winston,

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Speaker 2: of course, highlighted by his twenty thirteen an all time

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Speaker 2: all time attack Albert Haynesworth Derek Barnett.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 1: Interesting because we've got two defenders against two incredible offensive talents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's the magnitude of their ability to control

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Speaker 1: Correct, correct? Man?

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Speaker 2: How many? How many teams have had noses or defensive

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Speaker 2: tackles like Albert Haynesworth? Many Since that happened, We've had

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Speaker 2: backs like Dalvin Cook, oh Man, in terms of pure

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Speaker 1: I mean, Dalvin Cook should not be overlooked here, Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook had touchdowns so freaking good. In each of

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Speaker 1: his last two seasons as Florida State running back. Came

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Speaker 1: really close to seventeen hundred yards and twenty fifteen went

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Speaker 1: over seventeen hundred yards. In twenty sixteen, did a lot

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Speaker 1: more from scrimmage in the passing game. His final year

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Jamison and Dalvin Jamison, Jamis and Dalvin. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's I guess what happens when you put their names together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, just that twenty

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Speaker 1: Unstoppable to throw and complete sixty seven percent of your

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Speaker 1: and this wasn't even necessarily like a pass happy system

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Jamis there, Jamis.

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Speaker 1: It is next Notre Dame with Mike McGlinchey and Quintin

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Speaker 2: Ah Man, these are two of my favorite football players

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Speaker 2: of all time, in Quentin Nelson and Ed Reid. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to go Miami because if you're talking purely about

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Speaker 2: I like Mike mcglinchy a good deal, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think he pops in the way that Quentin Nelson did.

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Speaker 2: Former top ten, top ten ish pick. I believe Mike McGlinchey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ninth overall, Quentin Nelson went sixth, and I believe

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Speaker 2: Nice. I I could watch Quentin Nelson Notre Dame highlights,

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Speaker 2: especially that hit I think it was on Georgia. He

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Speaker 2: I could watch those all day. I don't have those

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Miami here in our Catholics First

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the answer here is ed Reid, Nontrell, Roll Dan.

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Speaker 1: It has to be. I love mcglinchy, I love Nelson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had big running back seasons, so

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Speaker 1: Incredible offensive line. And so I look in I see

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Speaker 1: Ed Reid's and all Timer. Yeah, of course, absolute all timer.

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Speaker 1: So I think we got to go in the direction

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Speaker 1: of Miami here, Dan as much as it pains.

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Speaker 2: Think about Yeah, think about how hard it is as

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Speaker 2: what Quentin Nelson did. Yeah, okay, that's I mean occasionally

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Speaker 2: you'll get that from guys. I mean, who had the

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Speaker 1: It just is. We have three more matchups here before

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: The first is Georgia with Matt Stafford and AJ Green

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Speaker 2: So we're eliminating the Iowa offensive lineman because we've been

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Speaker 2: this one's difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think with Nard Dog, don't you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Nard Dog.

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Speaker 1: I am Nard Dog man A.

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Speaker 2: The best of AJ Green was an unstoppable force. But

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Speaker 2: what the Nard Dog did in terms of carrying Michigan

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Speaker 2: fell off a cliff. I'm gonna go to Nard and Braylin,

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Speaker 2: for Michigan and big Dude, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go blue here.

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Speaker 1: Let's go blue. This next one might be the best matchup.

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Speaker 1: This is wonderful Louisville with Louisville Lamar Jackson and DeVante

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Speaker 1: Parker squaring off against Stanford with Andrew Luck and Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: So look, the obvious thing here right out of the

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Speaker 1: shoot is that DeVante Parker, though an NFL player, though

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Speaker 1: very good in college deserving of being on this team

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Speaker 1: with Lamar m HM. Clearly does not rise to the

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Speaker 1: level of the other three. He doesn't rise to the

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Speaker 1: level of Lamar, of Andrew Luck, or of Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: In my view, he.

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Speaker 2: Had some unbelievable catches.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable catches. But Okay, going back to your point then,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the new scale for how we're

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Speaker 1: determining who goes through and who doesn't in terms of electricity,

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Speaker 1: in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of who really gets who the palpitation. Yeah, like who

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Speaker 2: gives the vapors? Yeah, you're picking DeVante Parker over any

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Speaker 2: of these three. Well, it's essentially this comes down to

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Speaker 2: who would you rather align your buttons and joystick with.

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds weird now that I hear myself

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Speaker 2: say it out loud. It's Lamar Jackson or Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 2: Like if we're going to cross out common denominators or

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Speaker 2: something like that. Andrew Luck was fantastic, but not electric,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's more cerebral, and Lamar Jackson mixed the

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Speaker 2: you know, he grew as a cerebral quarterback and was

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Speaker 2: an electric runner and bought time for himself as a

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Speaker 2: thrower and definitely evolved as a quarterback. And then Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 2: who was the Swiss Army Knife of Swiss Army Knives

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Speaker 2: of the modern era as an all purpose player running back,

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Speaker 2: lined up at receiver and return guy wasn't touched in

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Speaker 2: that first half against Iowa. Right, as I like to

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Speaker 2: point out as often as humanly possible, who would you

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Speaker 2: rather play with?

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Speaker 1: To me, it's Lamar, I think for me it's Lamar

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Speaker 1: as well, I think I think it's Lamar. I do

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Speaker 1: have some sour grapes over this selection though, because it

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Speaker 1: is well, I mean again, I know you don't really

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Speaker 1: care for Matt Linert, but we're clearly selecting Louisville here

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Speaker 1: on the merits of Lamar Jackson and not so much

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Speaker 1: Devontae Parker, who is the Manchester to being a video

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Speaker 1: game player. Devonte Parker and Matt Linert. Okay, again, enough

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Speaker 1: with this, Okay, I will agree with you on Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Devonte Parker.

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Speaker 2: We've named the game after another video game.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I'm bullying you like I did with what

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Speaker 2: did we do at the end of the season in

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Speaker 2: the years past.

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Speaker 1: I think that was no. That was when we grated

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Speaker 1: out our fantasy things, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when I got the bullying accusations.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, I'm okay with this. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I would have been okay with that same logic with

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Speaker 1: Liner and Bush, so I'll split the difference. Okay, final

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Speaker 1: matchup here, Wow, are probable most difficult? Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: actually impossible. Oklahoma with Adrian Peterson ap all day A

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Speaker 1: D and Kyler Murray m H. Or Clemson with the

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Speaker 1: Sean Watson and Sammy Watkins. This is a matchup Dan,

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Speaker 1: this this is this is like Oklahoma got a stray

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Speaker 1: eighth seed and they're squared off against a number one

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Speaker 1: seed in the second round of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I honestly don't know. So physically Adrian

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Speaker 2: Peterson video game doesn't begin to describe the best of him.

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Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins was incredible, but I debate whether or not

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Speaker 2: he was actually better than Luke Hopkins for Clemson. And

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Speaker 2: then Kyler was physically just different physically, his ability in

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Speaker 2: his arm. You know, Deshaun Watson was fantastic and was

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Speaker 2: a warrior and was a dual threat Kyler Murray, though,

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Speaker 2: I mean even just watching him slide, there was a

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Speaker 2: certain amount of comfort former baseball player, don't know if

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Speaker 2: you have, of course I do. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go Kyler and ad are you? I am?

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Speaker 1: I think really what.

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Speaker 2: Kyler was able to do in terms now, are we

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Speaker 2: going to give Kyler credit for playing in a slightly

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Speaker 2: friendlier and more explosive offense because of Lincoln Riley. Now

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Speaker 2: Clemson incredible offense, but Oklahoma otherworldly with Kyler Murray won

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Speaker 2: the Heisman. I think there's that element of We've seen

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Speaker 2: receivers like Sammy Watkins, Adrian Peterson's don't exist coming out

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Speaker 2: of high school all that often. You have like Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 2: you have Leonard Fournette. But this is like generational type

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Speaker 2: builds and ability. So I think I'm going Kyler and

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Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson because it just doesn't happen all that often

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Speaker 2: when you have that after freshman year nflready type of player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Peterson's once in a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the weakness he has is he wasn't that

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Speaker 2: much of an all purpose player, Whereas I think you

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Speaker 2: could probably do a little bit more creatively with Sammy

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Speaker 2: Watkins in terms of taking you know, sweeps out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield stuff like that. I don't have the numbers

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Speaker 2: in terms of how much he actually carried the ball

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Speaker 2: or you know, was a motion jet kind of guy

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Speaker 2: for Clemson during his time. I don't know if they

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Speaker 2: were running a lot of that then, but there is

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Speaker 2: there is that element of you could do that with

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Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins that wasn't necessarily you know, Adrian Peterson lining

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Speaker 2: up out wide.

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Speaker 1: In my recollection, it also should be noted that Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray accounted for fifty four touchdowns his final year, not bad,

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Speaker 1: not bad, fifty four touchdowns, threw for forty three hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty two touchdowns now, and ran for over one

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Speaker 1: thousand yards and twelve touchdowns. So then he did it all.

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Speaker 2: Totally did But if you get into counting stats, Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray probably on like a per game basis, was on

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Speaker 2: the field longer because Oklahoma's defense during his time tended

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Speaker 2: to keep opponents in the game, whereas Clemson's defense was

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Speaker 2: locked down. So Deshaun Watson's probably not playing four quarters

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Speaker 2: every week, so that is a difference. But yeah, there

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Speaker 2: is something, especially given now I can't give them credit

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Speaker 2: for their their height or anything like that. But Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray at five to eleven, Deshaun Watson considerably taller than that,

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Speaker 2: six two sixty three whatever. What Kyler Murray was able

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Speaker 2: to do in terms of withstanding big hits and avoiding

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Speaker 2: contact and making plays, extending plays, man, Kyler Murray was

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Speaker 2: something else.

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Speaker 1: So now, to be fair, if we're if we're being

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Speaker 1: fair about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Also, Deshaun Watson scored, i mean, led a Clemson

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Speaker 2: National championship in like a crazy shootout against Alabama, and

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray didn't for sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure, And I just wanted to, you know, as

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Speaker 1: a point of comparison, here the Sean Watson in twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty five touchdowns, twelve on the ground. In twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen forty one through the air, nine on the ground.

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Speaker 2: So that's fifty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. It's an awful lot. And he

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Speaker 1: had forty five hundred passing yards his final season at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: which is just, you know, remarkable that eclipses what we

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Speaker 1: saw from Kyler Murray in his final season.

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Speaker 2: What were their rushing numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Watson's best season running, which was twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: he had eleven hundred yards and twelve touchdowns. You'll recall

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Speaker 1: he ran less in his junior season, only yeah, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and some. That was a story that they were

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Speaker 1: saving his legs for the playoff, right, And in those

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Speaker 1: playoff matchups he came through. He did what he had

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Speaker 1: to do on the ground to get them to the

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Speaker 1: promised land. I think I agree with you, though, I

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Speaker 1: think I agree with you. You can get Kyler Murry

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Speaker 1: if we're thinking of this an NBA jam terms, not

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Speaker 1: the biggest player in the world, but very versatile. He's quick,

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Speaker 1: he can do a lot of everything. And Adrian Peterson

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Speaker 1: is just sort of like a stalwart.

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Speaker 2: Right, Adrian Peterson is more of an absurd video game

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Speaker 2: creation than Sammy Watkins.

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Speaker 1: Agreed, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, all right, And like both of these teams, the

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Speaker 2: cases for other players occupying these positions is quite simple.

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Speaker 2: Like we could have a conversation about We've mentioned this,

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Speaker 2: but any of these receivers that have come through some

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Speaker 2: I JP Ryan going for what three hundred plus yards? Like,

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Speaker 2: there are guys all over the field for both of

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Speaker 2: these teams that are just easy, easy calls, easy cases

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Speaker 2: and these just the ones that we had to take.

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Speaker 1: I guess Alrighty, that brings us back up to the

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Speaker 1: very top of this, Dan, We've got your Oregon Ducks

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Speaker 1: squaring off against Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans from Texas

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Speaker 1: san And it's Marcus Mariota the Anthony Thomas against Johnny

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Speaker 1: Manziel Mike Evans. This is for a trip to the

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Speaker 1: Final four.

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Speaker 2: So Marcus Mariota, Johnny Manziel committed to Oregon at the

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Speaker 2: same time. That was a thing, very briefly, but that

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Speaker 2: was a thing, and then A and M offered Manziel. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now this is sort of a size and power versus

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Speaker 2: pure speed from D Anthony and Mike Evans. Mariota and

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Speaker 2: Johnny football both win the Heisman. I would say Manzel

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Speaker 2: had a slyly higher all purpose ceiling as a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree or disagree beating Alabama

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Speaker 2: on the road to the way that they did. Sure,

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Speaker 2: it's right, Sure, freshman.

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Speaker 1: Year, I think the answer is obviously A and M.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously Manziel and Evans here.

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Speaker 2: Now, Manzel did have some down games in the postseason

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Speaker 2: and later on in the season, and Mariota the same

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Speaker 2: against against Ohio State had some you know, a decent

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Speaker 2: bowl game against I think it was Kansas eight twenty twelve,

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Speaker 2: and certainly had a pretty good game against him. I

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Speaker 2: say it was Texas and Mac Brown's last game in

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. But video game wise, man, it's this one

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Speaker 2: is more Johnny Manziel versus Anthony Thomas. D Anthony Thomas

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Speaker 2: didn't really work out when he was handed the reins

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Speaker 2: as a more full time running back, and that's not

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Speaker 2: necessarily his fault, or it's not necessarily the coach's fault.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't his position traditionally, right, So.

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Speaker 1: Man, I think I think it's gotta be Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M And I don't think it's so much to

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Speaker 1: Anthony against Johnny Manzel. I think I think Mariota and

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Speaker 1: Manziel sort of cancel each other out, all right.

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Speaker 2: For better or this.

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Speaker 1: I think they sorts power speed versus power. And look,

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Speaker 1: if you look at Mike Evans did how dominant he

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Speaker 1: was in the college game versus the Anthony Thomas, who

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Speaker 1: was good and fun to watch and fast, it's a clear,

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Speaker 1: clear advantage from Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike Evans was slightly more dependent on quarterbacks, whereas

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Speaker 2: d Anthony Thomas made his hay somewhat in the return game,

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Speaker 2: somewhat as a running back that he would just take

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Speaker 2: the ball and find himself in the open field. If

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Speaker 2: you remember that Wisconsin highlight, there wasn't much that Darren

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Speaker 2: Thomas did in that game. Sure, I know he did

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Speaker 2: a good game, but there wasn't on that play to

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Speaker 2: spring to Anthony Thomas for eighty or ninety yards or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So there is an element of d Anthony Thomas just

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Speaker 2: by the position ish that he played, that he was

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Speaker 2: more responsible for his electricity than Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean Mike Evans caught nearly fourteen hundred yards

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Speaker 1: of football's his final year in twelve touchdowns. There is

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Speaker 1: not a single season here Ford Anthony Thomas where he

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Speaker 1: got over twelve hundred yards total from scrimmage. Right, the

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Speaker 1: advantage clearly between those two in my book, has to

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Speaker 1: be Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I'm totally okay with this. Who who do

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Speaker 2: you think is a rarer type of player at his position?

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Speaker 2: Got it Evans physically?

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go JFF and Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans is what six' five two twenty five something like.

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Speaker 2: That Mike evans currently currently listed at sixty five two thirty.

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00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: ONE i don't know what he weighed at AN a

651
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: and m. Okay next, Matchup.

652
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: Next, Matchup we've Got Tim tebow And Percy harvin Against

653
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Jameis winston And Dalvin.

654
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: COOK i, THINK i, MEAN i like. That It's, Florida

655
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: Florida state.

656
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Here, yeah it's.

657
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: Nice i'm gonna go T Bo Percy. HARVIN i think

658
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: it's got to be T Bo. Harvin, yeah, yeah for

659
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: just the reason that do you want somebody who is

660
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: more of which is more excellence downfield as a passer

661
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: In Jameis? Winston or do you want somebody who's definitely

662
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: not the passer but more of the video game? Character?

663
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: Right And Tim tebow because AND i Think Percy harvin

664
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: had a higher ceiling electricity wise Than Dalvin. Cook So

665
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: i'm Going tebow And.

666
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: Harvin Tim tebow accounted for one hundred and forty five

667
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his four years At, florida which is. Ridiculous

668
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: that is absolutely totally. RIDICULOUS Tbo. Harvin it is moving.

669
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: On that was moving, On, Yeah, miami Ed reid An Entrell, Roll,

670
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Michigan Denard robinson And Braylon. Edwards oh, man this is sneaky,

671
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: tough isn't.

672
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: It, Yeah i'm gonna Go miami here, Though i'm not

673
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: gonna think twice about. It and it has nothing to

674
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: do with any deficiencies Of Denard robinson And Braylan. Edwards

675
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: it's just those dudes were too.

676
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: Good, YEAH i THINK i think what super superun too?

677
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: Effective what swings this in The miami direction for? Me

678
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Whereas dinard And Braillen edwards were clearly the class of the,

679
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: team the classes their generation and a ton of fun to.

680
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Watch Ed Reid nontrell role were Like alheimer's in.

681
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: College, Yeah. Alzheimer's, No it's one of those things where

682
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: you think about what came to define a program in

683
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: the long. Term they do so more THAN i Think. Michigan,

684
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: now that's not, electricity that's not pants. Tightening but there's

685
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: a reason, why AND i think the reason is just

686
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: like the crazy smarts and athleticism of those, two and,

687
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: again nothing to do with any deficiency Of Denud robinson

688
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: And Breylan. Edwards but If i'm picking, characters in a video.

689
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: GAME i think they would just be more fun to play.

690
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: With it's great versus all time, great and there is

691
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: a difference between the, Two SO i agree with. You

692
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: final matchup, Dead Lamar jackson And DeVante parker For louisville

693
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Versus Adrian peterson And Kyler.

694
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: MURRAY i Guess i'm moving ou.

695
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: Forward, WOW i.

696
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: DON'T i, MEAN i thought the The Shawn Sammy watkins

697
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: matchup was a little bit more. DIFFICULT i Think Devanta

698
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: parker was a great, receiver but we're talking about to

699
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: all timers And Kyler murray And Adrian. PETERSON i.

700
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: Agree moving, On, yeah not even gonna think twice about.

701
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: It lamar's an Al, teimer, period BUT i NEED i

702
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: need two of.

703
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Them Final, Four final Four TEXAS a AND M Johnny,

704
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: Manzel Mike evans squaring off Against Tim tebow And Percy

705
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Harvin dan sort of inverted. Duos, yeah this is extremely.

706
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: Difficult The manzell side of, THIS i think is THE x.

707
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Factor manziel's not gonna have the numbers Of Tim, tebow

708
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: not even.

709
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Close, WELL i only played two, years played.

710
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: Two, years so if you compare them at least heads,

711
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: up you're gonna see That Tim tebow's got a clear advantage, there.

712
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: So laid relatively in the same, era And Johnny Manzel's

713
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: heisman season was superior in terms of production and electricity

714
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: To Tim. Tebow's does it.

715
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: Matter to you That tebow won a lot more Than

716
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: manziel just in terms of, no you, know championships and

717
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: high LEVEL A cec. Play, NO i mean the totality

718
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: of The florida experience With Urban meyer Versus Kevin somelan

719
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: and the defense That florida fielded for chunks Of Tim

720
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: tebow's time there in terms OF nfl, Players and there

721
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: were great players FOR a And m's defense, too but

722
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: they were Just florida was a more complete. Team SO

723
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: i don't Give Tim tebow Or Percy harvin credit for

724
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: just being on more complete. Teams if we're just looking

725
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: at this duo in a, vacuum, RIGHT i Think i'm,

726
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: Going i'm Going manziel.

727
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: And, Evans, okay why there was there's an element of

728
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: top end speed and creativity For, Manzel AND i, mean

729
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: What's Tim tebow's defining? Play the jump pass or like

730
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: the touchdown run Against South carolina early on sort of

731
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: weaving in and. Out it's something like, that Whereas Johnny

732
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: manziel's is the ball popping out as he's getting rushed

733
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: By alabama and then grabbing it and then throwing it

734
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: to a wide OPEN i Believe Ryan swape or the

735
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: play where he's just heaved it up after escaping a

736
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: bunch of pass rushers And Mike evans caught. It the

737
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: end Of Tim tebow's career where he was just used

738
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: as a battering ram is not as. Fun, Now Johnny

739
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: manziel had down, games but even the good That Tim

740
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: tebow did was sort of there was a lot of

741
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: three yards in a cloud of dust or seven yards

742
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 2: in a cloud of, dust but it wasn't that exciting

743
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: to watch essentially an h back play quarterback on those running.

744
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Plays So Percy harvin brings that electricity, up that arcade element.

745
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: Up But i'm gonna roll With Johnny manziel And evans.

746
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: HERE i think if we're talking arcade, element the arcade

747
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: element Is manziell And. Evans.

748
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean think About Bo jackson weaving in and

749
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: out In Techmo Super. Bowl there is that element Of Johnny, manziel.

750
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Almost reggie Bush.

751
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Lake you could, Say, yeah, DEFINITELY i.

752
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: THINK i agree with, You, DAN i think I'M i

753
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Think i'm on board WITH a AND. M and that's

754
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: really difficult for.

755
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: ME A Cotton bowl game Against oklahoma that he was

756
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: fantastic and he had That duke, comeback and, YES i

757
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: know it Was, duke But duke was okay that, year

758
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: and possibly The chick Fil A.

759
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: BOWL i THINK i Go manziel And. EVANS i think it.

760
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: Was more, fun more fun To Johnny, manziel the best

761
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Of johnny manzielvint to the best Of.

762
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: Tiba the arcade, element to me is kind of key

763
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: in determining That manziell is a. Pinball he was a

764
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: pinball behind the line of scrimmage and he made circus

765
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: plays on the. Regular whereas as he, Said Tim tebow

766
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: again an all, timer let's be, clear all timer a million,

767
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns but definitely a different kind of. Player, Yeah manzell And,

768
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: evans all, right, next next, up we've got Ed Reid

769
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: nontrell role okay Versus Adrian peterson And Kyler. Murray this

770
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: is this is.

771
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: DIFFICULT i, mean this is just an offensive electricity versus defense.

772
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Electricity this is.

773
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: Very difficult for, ME i feel Like i'm inclined to

774
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: go Ed Reid nontrell role that is my.

775
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: Initial Adrian peterson. Fun Adrian peterson electric and? Fantastic was he?

776
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Fun more of a straight ahead, guy one cut and,

777
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Go unlike perhaps anybody other than Maybe Derrick henry in

778
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: terms of that power and speed combination the modern, Era

779
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: all due, respect who's that who's that running back For Notre,

780
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: dame who's helmet popped? Off and he was like in

781
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: a model post, McDaniel all due respect to, Right, Yeah

782
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: Adrian peterson was a. MACHINE i think there's a. Man

783
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: this is so.

784
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: Tough the answer here Is. Miami the answer here Is.

785
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Miami with no disrespect To Kyler, Murray Adrian peterson's an all.

786
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Timer BUT i feel like when we look back at

787
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: the heyday of Edri Nontrell roll Versus Peterson, kyler my

788
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: eye is drawn To. Miami my eye is drawn To

789
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: miami because those two guys are just ridiculous out, there totally.

790
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Ridiculous not to say the others. Weren't BUT i like

791
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: the fact that we've got a defensive matchup here that's

792
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: meaningful to me to be inclusive of that side of

793
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: the football because we don't have much diversity in terms

794
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: of positioning. Here it's a lot of quarterbacks and running

795
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: backs or. RECEIVERS i like the fact that we've got

796
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: two just boss defensive. Backs So i've given this one To. Miami,

797
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Okay so here we. Go final, Matchup Dan TEXAS a

798
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: AND m And Johnny Manziel Mike evans squaring off in

799
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: our weird last second video game against The Miami. Hurricanes

800
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: In Ed reid In entrell Roll, Dan.

801
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you have a Lean, yeah My leen Is TEXAS

802
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: a AND m because they complement each other physically in

803
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: a way That Ed, reid an intro role on trail

804
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: role don't necessarily. Do if we are parsing and picking

805
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: apart this, matchup it's not like AND i know that

806
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: we're going with associated. Positions But Ed reid not a

807
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: huge safety in the way THAT i Believe Sean taylor

808
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: was and who could have easily made this list. TOO

809
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: i don't know the years he. Played if he, QUALIFIES

810
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: i believe he. Does oh. Man it's just that complimentary

811
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: element and it's a position group luck factor That Mike

812
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: evans is a big receiver And Johnny manziel is a,

813
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: smaller speedier. Quarterback WHEREAS i think if we are literally

814
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: playing pitting these two against each, other which we can

815
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: do we can do in a video, game, POSITIONALLY i

816
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: THINK i would give the. EDGE i think there is

817
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: that mismatch element with Having Mike evans be as big

818
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 2: as he. WAS i can look up What Ed reid

819
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: played At Ed Reid miami as a. Pro he looked

820
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: like it was about two oh, five so not, small

821
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: BUT i imagine In miami he, was you, know ten

822
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: fifteen seventeen pounds. Less entrell ROLL nfl combine was two

823
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: to oh. One, okay that's a pretty good size for A,

824
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: dB but that's him probably putting on a few pounds

825
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: for the. Combine and he's six feet Ed reid five

826
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: eleven two oh, one so about the same size As,

827
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: Manzelle whereas you're getting bodied By.

828
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: Mike, evans oh five six inches, taller twenty five pounds.

829
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: MORE i think the answer here is. Clear It's manzell And,

830
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: evans DAM i think think. SO i Think manzell And

831
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: evans are our college Football jam national champions here.

832
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: Because did they get did they get a fortuitous? Path

833
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: would you, say like would you have Taken manzell And.

834
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Evans let me see who they, Avoided so they didn't

835
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: have to play Against they didn't have to play Against

836
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: Notre Day sean And Sammy, watkins like didn't.

837
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Have to play Against. Sean, yeah they Skipped Andrew lucke

838
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: And christian. McCaffrey that's, Fine tua And davante because That

839
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma clemson matchup was.

840
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: Brutal BUT i guess choosing, YEAH i guess transitive, WISE

841
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: i would take AND i THINK i said this in round,

842
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: One i'm gonna have a hard time picking anyone Over

843
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: manzelle And.

844
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: Evans.

845
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: Right, well you think about playing a football video game

846
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: just in, general is they're having that element of that

847
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: huge pass catcher that you know you can count on

848
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: third and. Eight that that is very telling of The Mike,

849
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: Evans TEXAS a AND m. Experience, MAN i did not

850
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: see this, coming to be. Honest great, matchup great put this.

851
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Matchup thank. You, yeah when we put this, TOGETHER i

852
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: didn't know. WHO i was. Thinking Probably. Oklahoma, now if

853
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: we are looking At Kyler murray And Dede, Westbrook ceedee,

854
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: lamb any of these like crazy, fast versatile receips instead

855
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: of a workhorse running, back a straight ahead but physically

856
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: crazy imposing running back in. AD i wonder if that

857
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: changes the math on any of this the way that

858
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: we grated.

859
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: Out if we did, Jeps, yeah if we Did kyler

860
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: And Ceedee, Lamb, Right, so.

861
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: Who do we Have oklahoma losing To oklahoma has the deepest?

862
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: Bench to, me we Have oklahoma losing To. Miami.

863
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: Right so, hypothetically if we did Do Kyler murray And

864
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 2: Cede lamb Or Hollywood brown or any of these guys

865
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: that were just total game, breakers does that change anything for?

866
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: YOU i still THINK i probably go Ed Reed natrell.

867
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Role but, okay it's it is slightly different, calculus isn't. It,

868
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: yeah if it's something Like kyler And Cede, lamb or

869
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: even if it's Like, baker.

870
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Even if It's, Baker, yeah and one of those.

871
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Guys SO i agreed to the extent That oklahoma's got

872
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: a very very deep bench. Here there were some, teams

873
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: as you, know we went through we struggled to find

874
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: who the right counterparts would. Be good teams, Too, yeah good.

875
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Teams we're not talking bad teams, here but really good.

876
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: Teams but we did not have that problem with With

877
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: oklahoma at. All it was pretty clear that we had

878
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: a number of guys we could pick.

879
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 2: From did you like THAT i pivoted to what if

880
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: they actually played near the end of the. Game, YEAH

881
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: i just added an element to my. Qualifications, yeah that's

882
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: WHAT i.

883
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Do all. Right so it's Late, april Late. April thank.

884
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: YOU i am going, TO i, guess make A pdf

885
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: out of. This oh, nice make it posted theF out of.

886
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: This i'm going to make a crack and. Pdf, Yeah

887
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: i'm going to post it somewhere and you, know, writing

888
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: let us know solverblegmail dot. Com let us know your

889
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: thoughts on our selections, here the, pathway the, bracket the

890
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: whole nine. Yards would as always welcome your feedback on

891
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: where we got it, right where we got it, wrong

892
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: mostly where we got it, wrong because we know people

893
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: are going to be talking about.

894
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: That but so there is another what if in, here

895
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: and that's if we went offense With Ohio, state and

896
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: if we, did Like Justin fields And Zeke, elliott.

897
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Would you Mention Zeke elliott the other?

898
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Day did we we? Didn't somebody corrected us because we're

899
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: surely going to forget people and you WANT. Jk. Dobbins,

900
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: sure we could put IN. Jk dobbins. TOO i don't

901
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: know if that changes the math for. You ON A,

902
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: Kyler fields.

903
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: And zeke is very, formidable isn't.

904
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: It would you Do fields And zeke over To shaun And?

905
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: SAMMY i think?

906
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: SO i think. So remember how Good zeke was in?

907
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: College of COURSE i, remember, Ty, yeah just, checking just

908
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: making you forget. That so would you Take fields And

909
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: zeke Over kyler AND a D? M? PROBABLY i might

910
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: have Interesting, OKAY i still want to see why we.

911
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: SHOULD i wouldn't have taken them over Man zell And,

912
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: evans no, Chance. OKAY i mean this is why we

913
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: should post the bracket and see how people fill it.

914
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: Out, yeah, OKAY i will get on. THAT i. WILL

915
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: i will figure out some way to. Engagement, yeah to

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924
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Speaker 1: ARE i don't. Know maybe we're going to build out

925
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Speaker 1: some editorial this. Coming.

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Speaker 1: i have college Football jam in the. Books we will

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