1 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: And now time for the b A Q B keep 2 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: A b A keep I love when we do the 3 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: brann abission question, anansa. 4 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: Yes, and don't forget. We have a fun new segment 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: including or a fun new segment on Fridays that we're 6 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: calling BA fan Fridays because Friday was just not complete 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: with justice, ba Q and A. We wanted to shout 8 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: out some of our favorite fan mails. So this is 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: going to be reviews that y'all have left for us 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: on iTunes. So we're going to pluck those out and 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: give y'all some love on our socials. So definitely leave 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: those reviews on iTunes or wherever you listen to the show, 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: and maybe you'll have a special shout out on Friday. 14 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: So first question of BA Fridays Vaqa is from anonymous, 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna call you muss so Mussas. In 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I paid off fourteen thousand dollars off my 17 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: student loan debt. COVID happened, and I didn't pay any 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: money in twenty twenty and haven't made any payments in 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I've just been saving. I have thirteen 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars of debt left that I can pay off today. 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Even with paying off the loan, I will still have 22 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: over a year's worth of savings. I'm hesitanting to pay 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: off my loans because I was hoping for some student 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: loan forgiveness from the Bided administration. I didn't want to 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: pay them off and then ten thousand dollars of student 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: loan debt be forgiven the next day. But I also 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: just want to be debt free and officially done with 28 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: nail net. Would you pay it off now? Would you 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: wait until the government made a decision? What should I do? Ooh, muss? 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: It is a conundrum. 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: Indeed, I can't with that name mus. It's just rhymes 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: will puzz And it's just like anyway this is I 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: love this question because I feel like a lot of 34 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: folks are in this predicament right now. Like student loan 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: you know, payments have been deferred or for you know, 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: suspended since the pandemic hit, and it's going to be 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: that way through January at least. Biden said that was 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: the last extension he was going to give. So the 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: ball isn't his court, and he's had this investigation team 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: looking into supposedly how he could possibly cancel student loan debt, 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: but even if he does, it does seem like he's 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: gonna go with just the ten k option. So there 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: are folks who are like, I've been saving up money, 44 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: or I have money, what do I do? So Tiff like, 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: what's your first reaction to this question? 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: My first reaction is, Okay, well, maybe just leave the 47 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: ten thousand because I get it, because I'd be highly 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: pissed if you know, he paid it off. And I'm like, oh, so, 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming that your interest rate is not 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: too crazy because these are student loans. If you have 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: thirteen thousand left to pay off, I don't think he's 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: going to forgive more than ten thousand, honestly, So maybe 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: I would pay down the three if I was feeling 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: some sort of way about it. And I would say, 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: if you have all of this and you would still 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: have a year's worth of saving saved, one, you might 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: be saving too much because at some point, you know, 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: it's called the law of diminishing returns, you can actually 59 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: have too much savings, meaning that the money is not 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: being put to work. I would consider, also, in the meantime, 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: putting some of that money to work in the market, 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, investment property somehow like getting that money to grow. 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. I was going to say, I mean, honestly, 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't think you should give your student loans any 65 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: more than you absolutely have to. So when your payment's 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: become due, I would just look at your monthly payment 67 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: and just make that payment in full each month and 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: then take that money that you've been saving and actually 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: start investing it, you know. And that's different for every person, 70 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: and we don't know a ton about you, so it's 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: hard to give like specific advice. But it could be 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: increasing how much you're contributing to your four one K 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: if you're working or if you're not working, your individual 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: retirement account your IRA, and think about the benefit of 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: just sinking a big chunk of change. Like if Tiffany 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: says you have a nice you have a nice emergency fund, 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: you don't have other debt. You know, you're feeling financially stable, 78 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: think about making a lump some contribution to an IRA, 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: or even maxing it out for the year. I think 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: the limit is sixty sixty, five hundred or six thousand 81 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: dollars for twenty It changes every year, so IRS DOT 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: go for all your specific questions, but actually funding that 83 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: so that the money can start working for you and 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: start growing for you, because you know, like Tiffany said, 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: student loan debt, the interest rate is fairly low, especially 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: federal student loan debt, and you potentially could stand to 87 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: earn a lot more by investing your money in the market. 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: And you know, lump some investing may sound scary, but 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: studies show that sometimes it can be more beneficial in 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: the long run. You'll earn more in the long run 91 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: if you just kind of sink everything in and one go. 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: That's a super aggressive approach. But at the same time, 93 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: like you want to sleep at night, and there's no 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: wrong answer here, like paying off your student loan debts 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: is an amazing thing, but you have to kind of 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: weigh do you want to sleep now and feel like 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: you've you've said like f you to neel net or 98 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 2: would it make you even more upset if you found 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: out that you could have got that ten k you 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: know forgiven, and which one of those emotions is stronger, 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: And then just make the call that you know you 102 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 2: you want to make that makes you feel not fulfilled, 103 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: but makes you feel stable, It makes you feel like 104 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: you did the right choice with the information that you have. 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: You know right now? Okay, we wish you well. 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: This listener who says we can call her Brie, says, hello, 107 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: beautiful ladies, I have a question. After graduating college, I 108 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 2: was super broke and used my Discover and Chase Chase 109 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: credit cards. Both cards have been charged off and sent 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: to collections. At this point, I'm not sure what to do. 111 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: Do I reach out to Chase and Discover to try 112 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: to pay it back. Well, paying the charge off card 113 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: increase my credit score? Once paid? Can I have it 114 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: turned back on? Since those two are my oldest credit cards? 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: Please help? Sad face emogree. 116 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: This is a really good question. A lot of people 117 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: think like, okay, paying off old cards is going to 118 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: raise their credit score. It won't. It actually is gonna 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: bring down your score. Here's the thing about credit scores, 120 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Credit scores and credit bureaus. They like the new, the now, 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: the current. They're like, who is breed today? 122 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: Right? 123 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: So bree today is someone yes that has cards that 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: are charged off. But because those cards are charged off, 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: it that means there hasn't been really any major action 126 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: on them, I'm assuming in some years, but if you 127 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: start paying on them now you literally bring not only 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: the current payments but any pass payments current again, and 129 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: then that becomes who you are now, and therefore your 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: score is going to drop. So I don't know how 131 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: long ago. What I would do first and foremost is 132 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I would get my Googles on. I would say, Hey, Google, gird, 133 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: you're looking cute lose away, Oh you thick thig Okay, 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I would say Google, what is the statute of limitations 135 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: of credit card debts or revolving debt in my state, 136 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: in the state of New Jersey and New York, for example, 137 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: is six years. That means after six years, your debt 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: becomes what they call zombie debt. Now, it doesn't mean 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: that you don't have that you don't technically owe it, 140 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: like a zombie is not technically dead or alive, So 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you don't technically owe it, but 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: it does mean that they can't technically come after you 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: for it, because the state basically says, hey, you have 144 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: six years to get Brie. If you were in New 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: York and New Jersey to get Bree to pay up, 146 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: you're not going to have her at ninety years old 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: for debt that she owed when she was twenty No. No, 148 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: So if I would say, if my credit card debts 149 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: were in the zombie debt zone, I would move on 150 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: with my life and put my money toward other debt, 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, and paying that off and full and being 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: timely to raise my credit score, because paying off super 153 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: old debt, honestly is going to bring down your score. 154 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it's six years, you're only one year 155 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: away from that falling off your credit report. So if 156 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: you just hang in there and be patient and start 157 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: building up that good credit behavior, then your score should 158 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: definitely bounce back. I would just add when when it 159 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: comes to zombie debt, it's stopping people from suing you 160 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 2: for the debt. They can still contact you, and they will, 161 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: and that's where it becomes. It's kind of like poking 162 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: one of those zombies, if you imagine them like walking. 163 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: I hate zombie movies. Let me just not invoke that 164 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: image anyway. But if you poke a zombie and it 165 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: starts to chase you like, they'll try and call you 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: to get you to fall for their you know, bait, 167 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: take the bait. And if you even pay a dollar 168 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: on an old debt, that technically has Yeah, it's statue 169 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: limitations has expired, then they can it like restarts the clock, 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: and then they can try and sue you again for it. 171 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: So that's why it's important to do what Tiffany said, 172 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: find out the facts for yourself and don't believe anything 173 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: they try to tell you to get you to make 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: a payment. If you know for a fact that your 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: statue limitations is expired or it's close to expiring, you 176 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: know you can It's it's okay to focus on newer, 177 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: you know, newer financial challenges, debt, saving, investing, things like that, 178 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: and let that old debt expire. 179 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Exactly, Bree, I'm glad you reach out, Boo boo, so hopefully. 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Actually October if spooky season, we're talking about zombies. 181 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: Exactly, we should have a we should have a Halloween 182 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Q and a SEGMENTO of scary financial questions. 183 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: They're all terrifying. 184 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: I know. 185 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm still shuddering from from the afromanimalist Christine earlier this 186 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: week when she was telling me I talked to my 187 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: dad about his storage shed from hell that I'm going 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: to inherit one day. Oh my god, that's a terrifying, terrifying, 189 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: question that I have to figure out how to answer 190 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: for myself. 191 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Oh oh, it's hard with family. 192 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: My daddy. You're never going to open that thrift store. 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: You're never gonna open there. It's just not happening for you. Yeah, tough. Well, 194 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: then you. 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Have questions, you know, you can always reach out to 196 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: us on the IG. You can reach out to us 197 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: via Brandonbision podcast dot com, BRANDI Vision Podcasts at gmail 198 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: dot com. 199 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, we love to hear from y'all. 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