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Speaker 1: Well, this is a special episode of the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I am so glad that you two are with me.

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Speaker 1: First of all, and I didn't plan this. I didn't

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Speaker 1: to have you as guest on the podcast. But Jeremy

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Speaker 1: and Melissa, you came up to my house from Idaho

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Speaker 1: long ways to record a podcast with Amber and I

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Speaker 1: and your podcast New World, Old Soul, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: actually fantastic and very practical, and it is it's it's

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of good simple living.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could.

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Speaker 1: Say, correct.

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Speaker 1: Which is the vlog that you guys also have a

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Speaker 1: family vlog. And I'm fascinated by your story though, And

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Speaker 1: join me because I think a lot of people could

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Speaker 1: benefit from your wisdom and the way that you process things,

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Speaker 1: because a it's relatable the way that both of you

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Speaker 1: because you're also although you're relatable, you're doing things that

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Speaker 1: people only dream about. Doing. First of all, respond to that, like,

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Speaker 1: what what does that mean? When I say to you,

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Speaker 2: It's surreal for me. We have discussions about that very

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, we felt called to do

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Speaker 2: It's a big risk for us to leave familiarity and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, agreed. We live very conventional lives before.

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Speaker 1: What was it? We moved to northern Idaho, thirty miles

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Speaker 1: So start Melissa with the conventional life before. Where were

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Speaker 3: We were right outside of Portland, Oregon, and Jeremy was

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Speaker 1: So Kentucky Ballistics Daniel Arms from Arms Family homestead. He left.

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Speaker 3: We're totally self sustained with water. We have a huge garden,

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Speaker 1: So the next question is are our AI relationships more fulfilling?

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned are AI relationships more fulfilling? What's the

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Speaker 1: argument on that? This is an episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You guys did it is? What does stem from?

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Speaker 3: It was a people developing those AI like actual love

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Speaker 3: relationships and compatibility relationships, which is so crazy. But I

503
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Speaker 3: think we do that with our content creators too, or

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Speaker 3: our podcasters would become very attached to these online personalities.

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Speaker 1: I have been kind of like preaching this to my

506
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Speaker 1: band and crew for at least a decade, and for

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Speaker 1: a while they were like, you're grainder yourself stupid. Would

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Speaker 1: you stop talking about this? But as we as we

509
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Speaker 1: talk about AI and this interesting thing to think about,

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Speaker 1: as you're like homesteading and you're you're so far from

511
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Speaker 1: the danger of these things. I believe wholeheartedly that first,

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Speaker 1: you know, AI will be in robotics, and we all

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Speaker 1: know it's going to be doing laundry and cleaning houses

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Speaker 1: and mowing the grass and shuttling cars back and forth.

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Speaker 1: I understand all that. And ELI is saying that every

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Speaker 1: house will have one, and I agree with them. I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be eventually, it's gonna be like

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Speaker 1: cell phones and it'll it'll really help when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about like elderly and childcare. Even though it sounds horrifying

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Speaker 1: right now, it's coming. But I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: most people are missing, it's this your episode. I think

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Speaker 1: what people are missing is people will develop relationships with

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Speaker 1: these AI personalities and this will be a huge demise

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Speaker 1: to the human population.

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Speaker 2: Agreed. Yeah, yeah, I think there is definitely an element

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Speaker 2: of evil to it. That's my personal take.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we were just talking about the Elon worship,

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Speaker 3: which I know that maybe this makes me very unpopular.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: I feel like when Elon Musk kind of came to

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Speaker 3: the other side, right he joined the Trump team, everyone

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Speaker 3: got really excited to have him. Like Elon Musk, He's

533
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Speaker 3: a witchest man in the world. He's so smart, and

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Speaker 3: now he's dancing at Trump rallies and everybody rallied around

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Speaker 3: him without asking any questions. And he is such an

536
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Speaker 3: advocate for the AI, even though he'll go on a

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Speaker 3: Joe Rogan podcast and talk about how dangerous it is,

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Speaker 3: but he's pushing it, and it's I are we not

539
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Speaker 3: questioning what his actual motives are? Can we trust this man?

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Speaker 3: Just because he's at Trump rallies. Does that mean that

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Speaker 3: we need to put all of our support and trust

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Speaker 3: behind him? Or is what he's ushering in dangerous and evil?

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Speaker 3: And is it? I mean, it's clearly it's not of God,

544
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Speaker 3: not natural, it's not what God intended for mankind. So

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Speaker 3: why are we all just like Elon?

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Speaker 4: Look at him.

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Speaker 1: I saw him dancing to that point, and he was

548
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Speaker 1: like doing the fist pump in the air, and suddenly

549
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Speaker 1: I saw him in a new light. When I saw that,

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he Like, he's the guy in

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Speaker 1: high school that's like no one has ever noticed him

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Speaker 1: and right, and all of a sudden, this is although

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Speaker 1: he's had more money than anyone in the world, and

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Speaker 1: he's had, you know, incredible platforms, he's never had a

555
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Speaker 1: crowd of people screaming for him, and all of a sudden,

556
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Speaker 1: you could just see the kid in him.

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Speaker 2: He's like, oh, this is great elation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel the same with like the zuck you know,

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Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberger was always this nerd and now all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, he's on Joe Rogan and he's feeling really

562
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Speaker 3: cool and he's getting invited to sit at the cool

563
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Speaker 3: kid table and he loves it. But we have to

564
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Speaker 3: question those motives still because you have to remember what

565
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Speaker 3: they just did in the past and what they want

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Speaker 3: to usher in in the future. I mean, his whole

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Speaker 3: platform is called meta or are we not worried about

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Speaker 3: this for the human race and for the human soul?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So you guys have a very successful vlog in podcast.

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Speaker 1: How are you uploading these videos using starlink? That's that's

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Speaker 1: what I thought You're gonna say. That's interesting, right? It is?

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Speaker 1: Love it or hate it?

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Speaker 2: It? Useful me? Wrong? Absolutely, It's an incredible innovation, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take that away from that. I

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Speaker 2: just think, yeah, I think the whole concept of AI,

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Speaker 2: especially when you start talking about human integration, just for

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Speaker 2: me again personally, I think there's an element of evil

578
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Speaker 2: to it, and it's it's terrifying. I think it should

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Speaker 2: be to most of us.

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Speaker 1: At what point would you pull the plug on the

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Speaker 1: public presence that you have? And I know you've thought

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Speaker 1: about this, yes, I know you've thought, like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: truly off the grid until I'm also off the Internet.

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Speaker 2: I think the response is gonna be different for each

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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well, I think Jeremy would shoot the writer tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely would and walk away from all of it.

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Speaker 2: But before you.

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Speaker 1: Go, what would what would cause that?

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Speaker 2: I just crave purity and simplicity and it was a

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Speaker 2: big part of the motivation for me to want to

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Speaker 2: move my family where where we did with where we are,

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Speaker 2: and I do feel like the the interwebs, if you will,

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Speaker 2: take take from that. So I'm not again incredible technology

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Speaker 2: and innovation, but I think it takes away from everything

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Speaker 2: it is that I desired for myself and my kids

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Speaker 2: and relocating my family, the blessing and the curse.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Like you're a blogger as well, so you

599
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Speaker 3: realize when you go on a vacation and you're just

600
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Speaker 3: trying to take something in, but yet you need to

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Speaker 3: make the vlog there is That's I think that's a

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Speaker 3: hard thing for the audience to hear too, because they're like,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute. But as the person who's doing it,

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Speaker 3: or you're watching your kid blow their birthday candles out

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Speaker 3: and you're trying to get the right shot of that,

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Speaker 3: you sort of miss it in real life. So we'll

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Speaker 3: literally have we'll sing happy Birthday, and then we'll do

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Speaker 3: it again for the camera, because I want to see

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Speaker 3: my son blow his birthday candles out in your real life.

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Speaker 3: So or we'll go on a vacation and five days

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Speaker 3: are for filming in five days, no cameras.

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Speaker 1: WHOA, So it makes sense strategic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be or it will. When you

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Speaker 3: vlog your life, it can become all consuming and everything

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Speaker 3: becomes content and now your real life is a show

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Speaker 3: and you miss your children growing up.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's a maturity that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: don't get to in a short amount of time. How

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Speaker 1: did you get to that?

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Speaker 2: I just had this innate internal sense of I guess

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Speaker 2: it's all it's going to be subjective, But for us,

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we don't want to interfere with our

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Speaker 2: family's reality. You only have one got it raising your children,

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Speaker 2: and we want to make sure that we are as

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Speaker 2: present as possible for every moment ideally, And so you know,

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Speaker 2: cameras have a tendency due to interfere with that. And

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Speaker 2: I always tell her it's like, I don't want to

628
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Speaker 2: be making memories through the lens of a camera. I

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that I'm making memories for myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's an ongoing battle.

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Speaker 3: It's very beginning. We would have our kids say certain things,

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Speaker 3: or we would do these little skits that were fun

633
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Speaker 3: and the audience loved them and they were clearly skits,

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Speaker 3: but our kids were having to play these roles. And

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Speaker 3: then we finally just decided we used to do this

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Speaker 3: happy dance thing. And then one time we got in

637
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Speaker 3: a fight over it because he was like, no, you're

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Speaker 3: it was, but we had to keep redoing it, and

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Speaker 3: then we got into an argument. Our kids were standing

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Speaker 3: there like staring at us argue over the happy dance,

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Speaker 3: and that was the last time we ever happy dance.

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Speaker 3: People would bring back the dance were like, never, the

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Speaker 3: dance is dead. The dance coused to fight.

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Speaker 1: So that is such good parenting. That's such a good

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Speaker 1: foresight to to prioritize their mental health. Because I'm a woggert.

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Speaker 1: We're not saying none of us are saying that vogging

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Speaker 1: is bad or it's it's unhealthy. Uh, We're just saying

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Speaker 1: it's it's good to have limits and to prioritize certain things.

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Speaker 1: For this might be an example for me. I've filmed.

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Speaker 1: I have filmed many blowing out birthday candles. But I

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Speaker 1: also genuinely love cameras and filming and storytelling. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: part of the old songwriter in me and the current

654
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: sermon writer in me. I love storytelling and I love

655
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: one of the ways I like to do it is

656
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: through a lens, and so I don't feel Amber does,

657
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: though she feels just like you. She's like, I don't

658
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: want to do this, and I'm like, hey, never you

659
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: ever have to vlog if you don't want to, And

660
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: so I don't. She hasn't done it a long time.

661
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: But I am like, I love. I love filming, and

662
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: especially love now the collection of videos that we've put out.

663
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: That we get to watch these home videos, yes, in

664
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: a way that we just wouldn't have And so there's

665
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: a there's a plus and a negative. And I love

666
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: the way you guys are just thinking through what's what's

667
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: the priority here?

668
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just all about boundaries and balance. But

669
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I ironically enough, I love having all

670
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: of those memories to look back upon them, just seeing

671
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: the kids get older over time, you know, with our

672
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: home build and seeing everything it is that we managed

673
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: to pull off for ourselves. It's they're so incredibly precious

674
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: to me. They're like highly polished home videos. So I

675
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: love having that it's just in your day to day

676
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: life and routine. When it comes specifically to the kids,

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: it's like, I want to make sure that we're setting

678
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: those boundaries and doing what I just personally feels right

679
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: for Yeah.

680
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: If it were just us, I don't think that we

681
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: would have that these same tortured conversations. But yeah, kids absolutely,

682
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: it's always about their privacy.

683
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: And we'll link these videos in description and I would

684
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: encourage people listening right now, if you're not watching, to

685
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: go to the YouTube version of this episode and comment

686
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on this. And we've talked about

687
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: several different things, and I think vlogging that being the

688
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: least of these things, but more importantly probably homesteading and

689
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: the journey off.

690
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: The grid, which is where you guys are head.

691
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: So cool, and I would love to continue to touch

692
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: base with you guys and see others journeys going until

693
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: one day I text you and you go, we're off, man,

694
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: that was it? Or you just don't answer because you

695
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: literally don't have cell phones.

696
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: Shot the router. Yeah, without Wi Fi calling, there is

697
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: no calling phone.

698
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: It's fascinating. Can you guys help me answer some questions

699
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: on here?

700
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: For sure?

701
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: This is what we do typically on this podcast, and

702
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: this first one, and by the way, these man just

703
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: got me these like five minutes ago before we started recording,

704
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: five minutes before we started recording this one. First one

705
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: from Samantha and says Haig Grander, a close friend of

706
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: mine and I had a falling out for something pretty small.

707
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: But now it feels like our relationship and our friendship

708
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: is hanging by a thread. I want to fix things,

709
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: but I don't even know where to start. I'm afraid

710
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: it might just make things worse. How do you handle

711
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: disagreements with friends and know if it's worth trying to

712
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: repair their relationship?

713
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: Samantha, That'd be a tough one for me to answer.

714
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: I would say it's definitely worthwhile. I'm not always the

715
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: best when it comes to forgiveness. Let's say, so what

716
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: do you got, Mama?

717
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: So you're a grudge folder?

718
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: You agree with that?

719
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeremy, when he draws a line, it's a hard

720
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: line and it's permanent, and so it's something that we

721
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: talk about and I think you'll continue to work.

722
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: On maybe I'm a work in progress. I would say

723
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: it is worthwhile one, so it is it is worth

724
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: the effort, and I will heed my own advice here. Yeah,

725
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: it is worthwhile to put in that effort to maintain

726
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: those relationships or repair those relationships because ultimately, that's h

727
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: That's all we have in the end, right is your

728
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: loved ones, your friends and family. So definitely a worth

729
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: while investment.

730
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say if something really caused a

731
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: big riff that was small, there was probably some stuff

732
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 3: that happened earlier that caused something little to cause something

733
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: to mountain, you know, turn into a mountain. So probably

734
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: look at what caused those little irritations in the beginning,

735
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: and whether or not your friendship is compatible or what

736
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: what was the problems? What's the actual problem, because it's

737
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: probably not what the small argument.

738
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: It gets small.

739
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: So one of the part of a question is I

740
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: don't know where to start because she might make things worse.

741
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Do you have people like this in your life right now?

742
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: Like when I read the question from Samantha, do you think, oh, yeah,

743
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: I know that guy.

744
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure?

745
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Is it because of the home setting thing. Is it

746
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: because of the move from Oregon or no different?

747
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: No?

748
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yours is more childhood based.

749
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: Oh before that, yeah, this long standing family stuff.

750
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeremy's had to kind of protect himself from the

751
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: time he was a little kid, so his experience is different.

752
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: So defense mechanism. I know that I'm a work in progress.

753
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: So the host setting thing, it's getting even more complex

754
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: now when you think of it in that way, it.

755
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: Allows you to isolate yourself exactly. Yeah, where you don't

756
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: have to integrate. It's so easy to just pull back

757
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: and live in this little comfort bubble. We're both extreme introverts.

758
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: Usually an introvert, Mary is an extrovert, and the extrovert

759
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: encourages the introvert to get out there and patch up relationships.

760
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: And when it's two introverts and our comfort place is

761
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: to pull back, we do that and then we tell

762
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: each other that's good. So that could be dangerous. Yeah,

763
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: we're like, this is cozy. We love living in our

764
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: our acorn and and in there we stay like a

765
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: little squirrel family.

766
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: So how in the world do you reconcile what you

767
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: just said with going out and getting podcasts and going

768
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: to Nashville and Dallas and now Austin. What do you guys? Yeah,

769
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: how are you doing?

770
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing because it's not that we are

771
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: like so withdrawn that we don't like interacting with people.

772
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: We actually love having these types of conversations, having an

773
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: opportunity to speak with you and amer today. We love people,

774
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: we love getting to know people, but we also relish

775
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: our privacy and having our own little cocoon of our

776
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: own rules that we get to set for ourselves. I

777
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: guess you could say, but there's a.

778
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: Lot of bloggers like that. Have you experienced that? Yeah,

779
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: that are total introverts, very different.

780
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: Yes, so you're you're right alongside Samantha going, I don't

781
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: know where to start?

782
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? I would say, I have

783
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: an idea about maybe where you could start, but it's

784
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: not always easy to get there. Whereas and where do

785
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: you start by reaching out? You know, having those tough conversations,

786
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: potentially apologizing, saying sorry, expressing the love that you have

787
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: for your your friend or family member. Yeah, again I

788
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: would I would have to heed my own advice.

789
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: Here, But do you know what's hard is apologizing without

790
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: passing the blame at all. Yes, because we have a

791
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: tendency to say I'm sorry you feel that way, even

792
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: though I you know, I couldn't help it, you know,

793
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: like that. We don't always say it that way, but

794
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we think.

795
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very disingenuous.

796
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't what I have to learn. Interesting.

797
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: This is an interesting lesson for me. Uh it. This

798
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: is a recent lesson that I could do someone wrong

799
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: when there actually isn't something morally wrong with what I did,

800
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: but it could have been in the judgment of the

801
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: situation that started the whole thing in the first place. So,

802
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: for instance, here's an analogy. I could take Lincoln to

803
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: the zoo and then take him into the guerrilla cage

804
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: and then grab him harshly and say let's go, we

805
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: have to get out of here. And when I do

806
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: that to Lincoln, that's not wrong of me to be

807
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: very intense and grab him and say we have to go,

808
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: we have to get out of here. It's nothing wrong morally.

809
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: In fact, you would say you need to do that,

810
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: But the problem was the wisdom and taking him into

811
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: the grilla cage in the very beginning. So I could

812
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: have put in that situation, apologize to him and say

813
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I was wrong knowing me getting him out of the

814
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: grilla cage. There was nothing wrong with that, it was

815
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the wisdom. And so it's hard to apologize without bringing

816
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: yourself into it at all. Samantha might be there, Oh

817
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: maybe you are.

818
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: Maybe so, maybe Samantha is helping you.

819
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: Maybe she thank you, Samantha.

820
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's just human nature to want to

821
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: defend yourself too. So anytime that you feel like you're

822
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: being targeted or someone's attacking you, you want to defend

823
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: yourself and you want to say I did this even

824
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: though it was bad. Yeah, I did this because you

825
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: made me or it was your actions that caused me

826
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: to behave this way. Yes, even though that's not necessarily

827
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: it's truth. The way you react is on you.

828
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

829
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: Do you have a do you have a spot where

830
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: you guys sit at your place and kind of look

831
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: at the mountain, the different mountain ranges and just think,

832
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: this is this is life, This is unwinding everywhere.

833
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: But I'd say, our slider in our living room, it's

834
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: just slider. It's a big, just living room slider. It's

835
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: our primary entry into and out of our home and

836
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: we gaze out at a beautiful, sheer, rocky mountain face

837
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: that we have there.

838
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: I think going out with the horses is our online time.

839
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: There's something about horses because they're so simple, but they're

840
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: so complex. And when you just go out there and

841
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: just sit with them and watch them and the mountains

842
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: are there, that's where it's like the rest of the

843
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: world shuts off. You can be so stressed out and

844
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: it'll be like, let's go see the horses.

845
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 2: Soothing.

846
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

847
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question that this is not an indictment,

848
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of asking, like the rhetorical question of

849
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: all the listeners right now, what can you possibly be

850
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: stressed out about? In northern Idaho, thirty miles from the

851
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: gas station.

852
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: We're incredibly blessed. Don't get me wrong. Our stresses are

853
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: so insignificant to so many others. But we have, you know,

854
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: just some self imposed stress. I think it's more just

855
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: our own mentality and the pressures that we put on

856
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: ourselves is probably the primary source of our stress.

857
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: So would you tell people that, oh, you can escape it.

858
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: A life has its burdens because of this following world

859
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: we live in, and even going to northern Idaho and

860
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: building a house and enjoying all the mountain ranges. You

861
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: can't escape it.

862
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe if you were fully retired, or you were

863
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: you won the lottery or something, maybe you really could escape.

864
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know the answer. You're saying

865
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: that it's not true. It's not true.

866
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: I know it's not.

867
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get someone right here that won the lottery

868
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: and ask and they would say, no, I got problems.

869
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I don't know if you can ever

870
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: escape it. I think we do a lot of it

871
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: to ourselves, with our own self imposed deadlines and schedules

872
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: and expectations. And when is enough enough? That's the age

873
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: old question. So when you work for yourself, that's something

874
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: that you have to just decide, otherwise it takes over

875
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: and you just keep working. And I think that's probably where.

876
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: It's not situational or based on your setting. You're not

877
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: gonna you know, you're not gonna be able to ease

878
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: those burdens based on a place. Yeah, there's there are

879
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: other means of hopefully pursuing and achieving that piece.

880
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: You guys have the uber driver problem. This is what

881
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: this is what I think when I'm right with an

882
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: uber driver, I'm always like, how do you stop? Like,

883
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: if you're out, how do you not get one more ride?

884
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: And then one more ride and then one more ride?

885
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the problem you guys have.

886
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, one more video, sure, one more.

887
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: Guest, one more podcast.

888
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, very true.

889
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: It's scary to not to not enjoy the very life

890
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: you escaped too.

891
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: Yes, I see that a lot with people that do

892
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: content creation. Is when you're in control of your own

893
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: destiny sort of say, like you know your own business,

894
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: but it's your life, those lines get so blurred. You

895
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: have to go into it making hard decisions. Otherwise you'll

896
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: lose control, you'll lose yourself.

897
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: Our biggest battle is contentment.

898
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, finding contentment.

899
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: That's because you have red blood and you are have

900
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: a heart beating, and you're human.

901
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: Amen. Absolutely.

902
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: I remember in the music days, touring, it was it

903
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: was so easy to take one more tour date or

904
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: one more tour date, and so I would decide my

905
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: brother was my manager, which is, you know, by God's grace,

906
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: Tyler would help me through this, even though he you know,

907
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: managers make a significant amount of touring, so it's hard

908
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: for him too, but I would be like, hey, you know,

909
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna take off December. And every time I would

910
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: say it, we're gonna take off December and January sometimes,

911
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: but every time I would say that, an offer would

912
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: come in on December fifteenth that paid more than we'd

913
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: ever made the whole year. And so then you're up

914
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: against this dilemmas. Then you start compromising, like, well, it's

915
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: just one date. See you called the bay and they're like, well,

916
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: once my wife and I was anniversary and we I

917
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: kind of thought we were off December and so we

918
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: were gonna, you know, had a nice dinner planned. And

919
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, but but this will you know,

920
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you a bonus because this and you just

921
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: never that never ends. And it's not just touring, it's

922
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: in it. It's content creation, it's taking another uber ride. Yes,

923
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: even in the beautiful northern Idaho.

924
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, very true. We are not immune.

925
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to matter if you change your environment.

926
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: We're still humans. We still have those human tendencies in

927
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: that fallen nature of wanting more.

928
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Would you recommend people to homeschool their kids, Yes.

929
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: I would. I'm very passionate for homeschool because I think

930
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: kids are built so differently, especially little boys. Little boys

931
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: are little boys, and I think it's so important to

932
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: let them be And the classroom environment, especially kindergarten first grade,

933
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: is just not set up for little boys. It was

934
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: designed for little girls. And if you look at the

935
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: psychology of the classroom, it's very and then it becomes

936
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: very military. You stand in line for your lunch, you

937
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: have to raise your hand to go to the bathroom.

938
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: You have to stand in Little Rose. You learn in

939
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: Little Rose, you don't speak out a term. And I mean,

940
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: now the schools are kind of they've kind of lost

941
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: control of that. But that's not good either.

942
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: So well, what to that point. I've studied a little

943
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: bit of the Commanches that they were the tribe that

944
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: ruled where we are right now, Like if it was

945
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: eighteen thirty, we would be dead, because they ruled this land.

946
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: And they were the most brilliant that the most effective

947
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: warhorse tribe that we know of that has ever been

948
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: on the face of the earth. They were incredible. It's

949
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: an amazing study. The Comanches are unbelievable. And one thing

950
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: that they did was day let their little boys be boys.

951
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: They didn't put them in any kind of school until

952
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: they were about thirteen, when they were becoming a man.

953
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: They would go with the different men of the tribe,

954
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: which is also interesting something we don't do. We just

955
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: have dads today. But they would have the father and

956
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: the rest of the tribe and they would take that

957
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: boy and they would take everything that he learned and

958
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: harness it, harness all that wild energy and focus it.

959
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: And these men were incredible warriors. So the boys would fight.

960
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: They would ride horses at like three years old, like

961
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Maverick's age. They would be on horseback on little ponies.

962
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: They would be shooting blunt arrows. They would fight each other.

963
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: They would punch you, you know, give each other black eyes.

964
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: They would swim, and they would the tribe would just

965
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: let the boys go. Yeah, that's the opposite of what

966
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: you just said about elementary school kids.

967
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they tell they tell kids to you know, hold

968
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: that question or don't ask questions out of term. Like

969
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 3: my little boy has a million in one questions. And

970
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: you know Maverick too, He's just chatting the whole time

971
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: and he has so many incredible things to say. And

972
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: I feel like we lose that as we get older

973
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: because it's trained out of us. We have to conform

974
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: to survive in the school environment. And when you just

975
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 3: let him be wild, they become these curious, innovative little

976
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: kids and they keep that. What they have at three

977
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 3: years old they still have at thirteen, and they're interested

978
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: in all kinds of weird stuff, and no one ever

979
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: tells him they're weird. So are nine And well, he

980
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: just turned ten. He's into some different things, and he does,

981
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 3: in a way struggle to find friends his own age

982
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: because he'll start talking about like the history of bulls

983
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 3: and yeah, just like really funny things. And he's really

984
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: into engineering and rockets and he's all over the place.

985
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: But when he tries to talk to another ten year

986
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: old about it, they'll be like, you're weird, and then

987
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: he goes, am I weird, But he doesn't. He didn't

988
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: ever consider himself weird, just curious.

989
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: So people that can't see you right now, and even

990
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: if they can, you're behind the table, but you're very pregnant, yes,

991
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: and you do not know this baby, if it's a

992
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: boy or girl, might just be a little warrior in

993
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: there or a very special woman.

994
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: I think that it's a little boy.

995
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: You think it's a little lawyer in there, Okay, a

996
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: little Idaho wild boy running through those rivers.

997
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Wild boy. Yeah.

998
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to have you guys on again and

999
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: then we'll know.

1000
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.

1001
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll just come visit you guys. Maybe that's now,

1002
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: Hey man, maybe we'll do that. Maybe Okay, maybe we'll

1003
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: go visit. But hey, thank you guys so much for

1004
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: sharing incredible wisdom. And it's just I love the journey

1005
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: you're on and like I said, it's just like you're

1006
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: living a dream and I think it's fantastic.

1007
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: Thanks for sure.

1008
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, thank you guys. Thanks for joining me

1009
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: on the Granger Smith Podcast. I appreciate all of you guys.

1010
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,160
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1011
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1012
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