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<v Speaker 2>Michigan signs stealing scandal. More information came out and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting interesting. I don't know where it leads to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know by the time the NCAA would rule

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<v Speaker 2>on something like this, it might be three years down

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<v Speaker 2>the road. I think Michigan is still being investigated or

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the fallout from what happened during COVID when

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<v Speaker 2>they have impermissible contact with recruits. But what if Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>would win the national title this year? And now you

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<v Speaker 2>have that feeling like the Astros that does Michigan need

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<v Speaker 2>to do this? Do they need to steal signs? And

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<v Speaker 2>what is the rule? Can I have an advanced scout?

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<v Speaker 2>This has been around for I think thirty years where

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<v Speaker 2>they came up with this rule, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's you know, cost efficiency that not all schools

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<v Speaker 2>can afford to send somebody. But if you have somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who bought tickets sat midfield and is videotaping the other

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<v Speaker 2>team getting signals there, what if you go to a

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<v Speaker 2>game and take notes and I don't videotape trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure all this out. I don't know if that's against

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<v Speaker 2>the rule or not. But we'll dive into this coming

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<v Speaker 4>and then do Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd goes in thinking you're supposed to be naked, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go no, no, no no. Diamondbacks beat the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 2>advance to the World Series against the Rangers, just like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody predicted. Right, you have the Nuggets getting their rings

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<v Speaker 2>banner raised. Last night they handled the Lakers. Golden State

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<v Speaker 2>Warriors lose at home to the Phoenix Suns. Victor Wanbaiama

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<v Speaker 2>makes his debut tonight against Dallas. The Diamondbacks had a

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<v Speaker 2>regular season run differential of minus fifteen. That's the worst

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<v Speaker 2>run differential for a World Series team since the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven Twins.

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<v Speaker 5>Stat of the day, stat of the day, that beast

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<v Speaker 5>stat of the day, stat of the day, here comes

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<v Speaker 5>that what stat of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It does make them interesting because they're not your typical Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we just sit back and hit home runs. They steal bases,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, what Yes, they're old school Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Staff was great. Give them credit. They won't get the credit.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be about Philly collapsing. You go back home. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to win one game. You lose both of those

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<v Speaker 2>and this is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Diamondbacks jumped out early. Pitching kept him in there,

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<v Speaker 2>silenced the bats. Top of the order was not good

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And Arizona and Texas in the World Series.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Dylan the graphics guy has Texas. He

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<v Speaker 2>picked Texas to win the World Series at the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the playoffs, and we'll update that, of course with

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast tomorrow. Dan Patrick takes a gamble with Shan

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<v Speaker 2>Irving and bad Larry.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Marvin, do you think MLB's like great Arizona exs series?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what else are they going to do? You got

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<v Speaker 2>to embrace it now. You have to work harder at

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<v Speaker 2>kind of spicing this up. A little bit because hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Rice Harper's in there or the Astros are in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get a tune in factor.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you don't have that to do a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of homework here, and you're gonna have to go above

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond and try to bring out some stories that

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<v Speaker 2>people will be interested in.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes see, somebody presented the poll question which might be

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<v Speaker 7>unfair more interesting series? Rangers Diamondback World Series or Astro's

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<v Speaker 7>Phillies third place.

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<v Speaker 1>Game Astros Phillies. Yeah, probably so.

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<v Speaker 7>But is that just because we know those teams or

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<v Speaker 7>are they just genuinely more interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>They're more interesting and we know them, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion about both of those teams, Like Texas, does

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<v Speaker 2>anybody really have an opinion about them one way or another?

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona they're like, okay, they won eighty four games. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's like we're getting introduced to the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to be in November and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get get to know your Diamondback.

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<v Speaker 1>We should do that, PAULI know your dim I was

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<v Speaker 1>not prepared for that. How about know your Arizona Cardon?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I do the Coyotes? Oh, Coyotes or Diamondbacks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, how about that? Yes, fun, Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough to do.

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<v Speaker 7>Know your Rangers, followed by know your Diamondbacks as the

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<v Speaker 7>two World Series team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know that's I know, that is I know tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yes, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 6>So, should we just go back to whoever has the

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<v Speaker 6>best record wins the Pennant and meets up in the

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<v Speaker 6>World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, please, the way thank you the way it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the way it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>If you won your division best record and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox would finish second, Ted Williams would be like, up, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Yankees, Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Mark, Dodgers Astros would be like what the Yankees Dodgers

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<v Speaker 6>used to be back in the fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go the World Series. This year would

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<v Speaker 4>have been Braves versus Oriols.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's where if you're the Braves or

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers and you're going the Diamondbacks, you have all

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<v Speaker 2>this had great regular season the Diamondbacks, but it goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what we've talked about many many times, where

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<v Speaker 2>you have these teams unlikely teams you win the wild card,

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<v Speaker 2>and those teams are always the most dangerous because they've

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<v Speaker 2>been in playoff mode. You know, Washington Nationals, the Giants

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fourteen, the Cardinals in twenty eleven. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>had a three year run O two with the Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>O three with the Marlins, O four with the Red Sox,

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<v Speaker 2>all wildcard teams who went on to win the World Series.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Paul, the Dodgers outscored their opponents this year by

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and seven runs. The Braves outscored their opponents

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<v Speaker 4>by two thirty one. And let's see the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 4>Rays outscored their opponents by one ninety five, the Rangers

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<v Speaker 4>by plus one sixty five, and again the Diamacks were

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<v Speaker 4>minus fifteen. But you know, you can't use fluke like

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, like even the NCAA tournament, you could fluke

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<v Speaker 4>your way to one win, but you can't fluke your

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<v Speaker 4>way to Butler being in the finals against Duke like

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<v Speaker 4>the Diamondbacks. You know, it wasn't a one game series.

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<v Speaker 4>They earned their way there. And sometimes in football, a

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<v Speaker 4>team that shouldn't be there got there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we've seen college basketball teams get on a

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<v Speaker 2>run where they might win three or four games, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't win at all, but they do surprise a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams where you're like, where did that? Where

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<v Speaker 2>did George Mason come from? It does happen?

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<v Speaker 4>Butler was the one that made it to the title

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<v Speaker 4>game and had a shot twice, Yeah, twice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to dive into this Michigan story here?

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Meek He is a staff writer covering Michigan football

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<v Speaker 2>and basketball for the Athletic. He's written a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>columns here did a deep dive on this. Austin kind

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<v Speaker 2>enough to join us here? All right, help me understand what?

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<v Speaker 2>What is Michigan accused of doing illegally?

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<v Speaker 8>So there's an NCAA rule that's been on the book

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<v Speaker 8>since nineteen ninety four. It says that teams can't scout

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<v Speaker 8>their opponents in person during the same season, and the

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<v Speaker 8>allegation is that the staffer, a mis Chigan Connor Stallions

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<v Speaker 8>who's been suspended, was basically coordinating this off campus scouting ring,

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<v Speaker 8>buying tickets at other big ten stadiums and other stadiums

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<v Speaker 8>around the country, and then coordinating people to go in

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<v Speaker 8>and watch the games. And film the signals of the

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<v Speaker 8>other teams, which, at least according to the spirit of

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<v Speaker 8>the NCAA rule, would be a violation.

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<v Speaker 2>What if you're not filming, what if you're just observing?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, how deep does this go that makes

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<v Speaker 2>it illegal? If I just going on watching, watching your mannerisms,

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<v Speaker 2>your gestures, your signals, is that illegal?

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<v Speaker 8>So there's actually two separate rules that would be applicable.

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<v Speaker 8>One of them is about technology and filming, and one

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<v Speaker 8>of them is just about scouting. And the definition of

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<v Speaker 8>scouting is really vague in the rule, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>that's part of what this is going to hinge on,

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<v Speaker 8>is what actually is scouting. If you have somebody who's

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<v Speaker 8>just a fan in the stands observing the game, does

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<v Speaker 8>that person count as a scout of your school? And

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<v Speaker 8>I don't honestly know the answer to that. I think

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<v Speaker 8>there will be a lot of technical arguments made about

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<v Speaker 8>the definition of a scout. And that's why I go

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<v Speaker 8>back to the spirit of the rule is that you

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<v Speaker 8>can't do this, But in terms of how the letter

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<v Speaker 8>of the law is interpreted, I really don't know the

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<v Speaker 8>answer to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like to flategate. I think the rule is silly.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to lie to the NCAA or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jim Harbaugh says they didn't do anything wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>they're already under investigation. I guess for you know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened during COVID. He says he wants to be the

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<v Speaker 2>I think gold standard here with his program. It's did

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<v Speaker 2>they offer him a contract extension this season?

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<v Speaker 1>And is that on the back burner now?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so we've reported that before any of this came out,

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<v Speaker 8>Michigan was in the process of working on a massive

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<v Speaker 8>contract extension for Jim Harbaugh. In fact, there had been

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<v Speaker 8>hopes that that would get done in the next couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 8>And my understanding is, yeah, that's on the back burner now.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think Michigan can signed Jim Harbaugh to a

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<v Speaker 8>huge contract tension with all of this going down, and

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<v Speaker 8>it just the timing of it is not good for

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<v Speaker 8>Michigan given the fact that Jim Harbaugh served a three

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<v Speaker 8>game suspension to start this season, they already have had

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<v Speaker 8>NCBLEA issues. Michigan stood by Jim Harbaugh in the midst

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<v Speaker 8>of that, but I have to imagine for a similar

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<v Speaker 8>thing to come up now in the middle of this season.

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<v Speaker 8>As Michigan is undefeated and right now the favorite to

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<v Speaker 8>win the National Championship, it has to be really disappointing

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<v Speaker 8>for a lot of people around Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't this come down to the Commissioner of the Big Ten,

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<v Speaker 2>not the NCAA, because the Commissioner of the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>is going to determine they have the authority, They have

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<v Speaker 2>the exclusive authority to determine sportsmanship violations, if they've occurred,

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<v Speaker 2>what the penalty should be. So this really isn't the NCUBLEA.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the new commissioner of the Big Ten, I believe.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Tony Pettiti is in a really interesting position here.

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<v Speaker 8>The Big Ten was notified by the NCBLEA that the

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<v Speaker 8>NCUBA was investigating this as a potential infractions case, and

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<v Speaker 8>that put the Big Ten, I think, in kind of

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<v Speaker 8>a bind. Because you're absolutely right, the Big Ten has

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<v Speaker 8>a responsibility to ensure fair competition in its games. Tony

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<v Speaker 8>Petiti has the authority to punish Michigan or Jim Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 8>if they deem that to be justified. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 8>I think that the Big Ten is trying to keep

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit of distance and not get in the

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<v Speaker 8>way of the NCUBLEA investigation. Defer to the NCUBLEA since

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<v Speaker 8>they have been informed that the NCUBLEA is investigating. But

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<v Speaker 8>I would think, knowing what we know about the NCUBLEA

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<v Speaker 8>process and how long it takes, I think there will

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<v Speaker 8>be some pressure on the Big Ten in the meantime

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<v Speaker 8>to step in and do something if it seems like

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<v Speaker 8>the integrity of Big ten football games has been compromised.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder because if the NCAA is left to

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<v Speaker 2>rule on this, this could take years, but the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Ten like that could be something that they could rule on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to guess pretty soon if they found enough,

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<v Speaker 2>or imagine Michigan winning a national title, that's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To stoke this up.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, the further they go along this season,

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<v Speaker 2>the more successful. It's like the Astros where you go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're cheating, Well, you know they're somehow cheating. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's some Internet sleuths who are posting

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<v Speaker 2>photos here of the signals of videos of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who are you know, trying to steal.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the proof here.

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<v Speaker 2>That hey, they have a card, a placard that has

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<v Speaker 2>signs on it that shows you know what teams are calling,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe they're they're audibles there.

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<v Speaker 8>Well no, So a lot of the videos that have

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<v Speaker 8>surfaced on social media, the ones of Connor Stallions on

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<v Speaker 8>the sideline standing next to Michigan's coordinators, that's actually all

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<v Speaker 8>perfectly legal. Sign Stealing isn't illegal in college football. Every

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<v Speaker 8>program does it. Every program probably has a card with

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<v Speaker 8>other teams signals on it. So the real question is

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<v Speaker 8>how was Connor Stallions gathering the information that he used

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<v Speaker 8>to try to decode the other team's signal. He had

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<v Speaker 8>a reputation in Michigan's program as a guy who was

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<v Speaker 8>really good at decoding signals, but was he doing it

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<v Speaker 8>in a way that broke nc double A rules? And so, really,

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<v Speaker 8>I think the incriminating evidence is going to be if

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<v Speaker 8>there's somehow video evidence of people that can be tied

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<v Speaker 8>back to Michigan in other stadiums taking video, If the

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<v Speaker 8>NCAA is able to get Connor Stallion's computer and can

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<v Speaker 8>see that people were sending him videos of signals, I

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<v Speaker 8>think that would be much more incriminating than anything that

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<v Speaker 8>would surface of him on the Michigan sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>But Austin, why don't they get up, get up to

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<v Speaker 2>speed with modern technology and have the communication in the helmet,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you know, there are high school teams that

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<v Speaker 2>have this. Why doesn't the NC DOUBLEA or at least

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<v Speaker 2>you know, certain conferences have this.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's been a big push. I think if anything

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<v Speaker 8>comes of this, I won't be surprised if this situation

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<v Speaker 8>is the catalyst for in helmet communication to happen in

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<v Speaker 8>college football the way it happens in the NFL. I

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<v Speaker 8>think there are lots of reasons why it hasn't happened,

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<v Speaker 8>and one of the reasons maybe that teams still feel

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<v Speaker 8>like they can get a competitive advantage by operating in

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<v Speaker 8>these gray areas, and teams don't like to give that up.

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<v Speaker 8>But I think, certainly from the Big Ten perspective, and

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<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of people around college football are

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<v Speaker 8>going to look at this situation and say, this is

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<v Speaker 8>just a scandal waiting to happen, to continue to not

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<v Speaker 8>have the in helmet communication and create this gray area

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<v Speaker 8>that it appears that Michigan and probably some other programs

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<v Speaker 8>have been trying to exploit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you had Dion saying it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Ruhle said, it's not a big deal. It's almost like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I know my pitcher is scuffing up the ball and

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<v Speaker 2>your pitcher's probably scuffing up the ball. Let's just call

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing off. We're not going to tattle on

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<v Speaker 2>each other. But the importance of this with Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>and their media, this isn't going away anytime soon. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious what happens next.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Dan, I think you're right that the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 8>will have some decisions to make, and if we're looking

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<v Speaker 8>for some sort of punishment to happen soon, I think

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<v Speaker 8>it would either have to be something from Michigan or

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<v Speaker 8>something from the Big Ten, because we know how the

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<v Speaker 8>NCAA works. But it's hard for me to see that

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<v Speaker 8>happening unless there's something really really conclusive. I don't think

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<v Speaker 8>the Big Ten wants to step in and suspend Jim

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<v Speaker 8>Harbaugh or declare Michigan ineligible for the Big Ten championship

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<v Speaker 8>game when this team is ranked number two and undefeated.

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<v Speaker 8>That certainly wouldn't be good for the league if Michigan

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<v Speaker 8>is not eligible. So I think there are going to

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<v Speaker 8>be some hard decisions to make. As more comes out,

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<v Speaker 8>there may be increasing pressure for something to happen. But

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<v Speaker 8>it's just hard for me to see anybody really stepping

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<v Speaker 8>in and derailing this Michigan team that could very well

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<v Speaker 8>play for a national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done a great job on this the last two columns.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read a lot of information in there, Austin, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Austin Meek staff wrighter covering Michigan football and basketball for

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<v Speaker 2>the Athletic Yeah. I don't know where this goes. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it goes anywhere anytime soon. But a

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<v Speaker 2>source just said to me it's really up to the commissioner.

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<v Speaker 2>The commissioner of the Big Ten has exclusive authority to

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<v Speaker 2>determine if sportsmanship violations have occurred and what the penalty

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<v Speaker 2>would be.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't the NCAA.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Tony Pettiti, who just got there

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<v Speaker 2>as the commissioner, wants to hurt Michigan's chances of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the Big Ten a national championship. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>take a break, Doc Rivers, he's working for the Mothership now,

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<v Speaker 2>couple of phone calls in here, Michael and Fort Wayne. Hey, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 9>feel morally or more obligated to talk about Fritzy's song

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<v Speaker 9>that's coming up. I like, I want to support him,

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<v Speaker 9>but after hearing what he did to the Olivia Newton,

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<v Speaker 9>John and Bert Young tributes, I think we need to

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<v Speaker 9>up the ante a little bit here. When Fritzi ignores

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<v Speaker 9>the beat and just speeds ahead of the song like

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<v Speaker 9>he does, it causes me physical pain. So I propose

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<v Speaker 9>if he wants to proceed with his song, there should

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<v Speaker 9>be some kind of risk in order for him to improve.

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<v Speaker 9>I think if it happens again today, he should get

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<v Speaker 9>a pie to the face on behalf of your captive audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well, thank you, Michael. I'll take that

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<v Speaker 2>under advisement. I did hear Fritzi practicing the song? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this going to be a true tribute to them? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it going to be? Are you going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>make it good?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it's not a spoof, and I will try to

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<v Speaker 6>go slower in the actual stinging of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe the song is can you take these pires like

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<v Speaker 7>pie instead of higher higher?

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<v Speaker 2>Ian Rappaport is reporting the Titans are going to go

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<v Speaker 2>with rookie quarterback Will Levis starting on Sunday. Ryan Tannehill,

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<v Speaker 2>with his ankle, is likely out Paul and Iowa. Hi Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 10>Hey Dan, I have a comparison on Big Ten football

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<v Speaker 10>fan bases with this Michigan situation. But first shout out

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<v Speaker 10>to Andrew Down's program director k X and O of

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<v Speaker 10>you're affiliate in des Moines. They're losing the great guy

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<v Speaker 10>there and we're going to miss him on the radio.

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<v Speaker 10>But for Michigan, this just shows that winning and scoring

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<v Speaker 10>points cures everything. Because nobody in the Michigan fan base

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<v Speaker 10>is calling for Harbaugh's head, but two states over here,

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<v Speaker 10>we have a fan base that wants the athletic department

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<v Speaker 10>to circumvent the head coach and fire his oc son

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<v Speaker 10>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're taking you You'll take any points you can get.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're just coming off a horrible call on that

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<v Speaker 2>loss and the over under was the lowest in college

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<v Speaker 2>football history. They're begging for some signs stealing there, Iowa. Yeah, seton.

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<v Speaker 7>By the way, Andrew Downs is a great guy. He

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<v Speaker 7>was when I was in Des Moines, he was essentially

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<v Speaker 7>if I was the mayor, he was like the chief

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<v Speaker 7>of staff, and he opened up that whole city to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Really really great dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we appreciate the support in Des Moin. Yeah, Pauline,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the local reaction to Jim Harbaugh. He's never

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<v Speaker 2>been in better shape as a Michigan head coach. They're

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<v Speaker 2>about to give him a contract extension, which they want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. He's beaten Ohio State every year. They're what

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<v Speaker 2>second chance, best chance for the national title this year?

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<v Speaker 1>His career has never been better in Michigan. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to lose him in the NFL. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get punished.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a problem with is Oh. It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else should be doing the same thing. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>archaic though, that you can't go out and scout your opponent.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't videotape, and they do that in high school

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<v Speaker 2>where you can go out and scout your opponent. Chad

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<v Speaker 2>in California, Hi, Chad, what's on your mind today about?

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<v Speaker 3>All? Right?

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<v Speaker 11>So, back in May, I was leaving an Angel Rangers game.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm a longtime Angel fan. Regrettably, I might ads and

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<v Speaker 11>Rangers just kicked our butts, walked out, sat in my

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<v Speaker 11>car and put two hundred fifty bucks on the Rangers

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<v Speaker 11>to win the World Series. It is two hundred three

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<v Speaker 11>dollars to win eleven thousand dollars. And now I'm debating

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<v Speaker 11>whether or not I should be hedging out of this,

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<v Speaker 11>take the wife some more nice, or if I should

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<v Speaker 11>let a ride have to hide my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know your financial situation, Chad. You can

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<v Speaker 2>win eleven thousand dollars if you hedge your bet?

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<v Speaker 1>What what? What can you win six thousand?

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<v Speaker 11>I can guarantee six. I can get a little riskier

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<v Speaker 11>do like a three to eight situation. But obviously my

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<v Speaker 11>heart says let it ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you can have a wonderful vacation at six grand.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have two vacations for eleven grand. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's now. I got five guys here, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do you want to take our advice? If

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<v Speaker 2>I give you a yay or nay, do you let

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<v Speaker 2>it ride?

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<v Speaker 3>Will?

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<v Speaker 11>I will take the group's advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, seat, and I'll start with you. Yeay, r nay?

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<v Speaker 2>Let it ride for eleven grand for Chad in California

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<v Speaker 2>on the Rangers to win it all?

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<v Speaker 7>Man, two vacations sounds like a lot of fun, man,

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 7>But how many awesome vacations could you have. If that

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<v Speaker 7>hits many more, what is your answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes or no? Let it ride?

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<v Speaker 7>I think just for the content I'm saying, let it ride.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sorry. I hope that your marriage and life goes well.

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin, let it ride? Head juice, Bet?

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<v Speaker 6>How is he financially?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, It doesn't matter. Oh then let it ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Paulie, let it ride. Let it ride A big vote,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>paul is a big vote.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Let it ride and let your wife know first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chad, good luck, good Huck. What could go wrong?

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<v Speaker 11>I appreciate it.

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>She's in good die.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Then she's a real all right, Now we have a

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<v Speaker 2>reason to watch the World Series. Chad in California, Doc Rivers,

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>he'll be on the call Celtics in the Knicks tonight. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to dust off the microphone? Do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>how to do this?

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<v Speaker 8>Doc?

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, Dan. I'm looking at the picture

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<v Speaker 3>behind you.

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<v Speaker 12>You got I think that's how Michael's if I'm met

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 12>you in My eyes are still right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna try to dust them off.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 12>And at least I'm not talking about, you know, golf

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 12>or something I don't know, you know, So let's hope

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<v Speaker 12>it all works out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you a coach when you're a commentator. Are

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you a former player when you're a commentator. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>a fan when you're a commentator?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hope, I'm all three. You know.

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<v Speaker 12>It's interesting. When I first did this, I think Dan,

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 12>you were eleven. With my first broadcast, I sit next

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 12>to Berne Lunquist and he told me, listen, son, you

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 12>can do this a lot of ways. The way I

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 12>would do it, I would celebrate the game. I would

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:06.840
<v Speaker 12>make sure everyone leaves the game happier with knowledge and

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 12>they enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I'm going to try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>How's the voice?

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Because usually when I talk to you, you got your

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<v Speaker 2>coach for voice.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I worry about that voice of yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I do too. You know. It's funny. My daughter

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 3>played me a clip.

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<v Speaker 12>A year before I took my coaching job, and that

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 12>was a different voice. So I guess it's if you

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<v Speaker 12>had you know, I don't know, twenty kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>at a camp every day where the acoustics were awful,

0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 12>and you did it for twenty four years.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what would happened to your voice?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gone to see somebody?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I have.

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<v Speaker 12>I actually, when I was with the Celtics, I had

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<v Speaker 12>a pollop on my vocal cord.

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Had to get a removed, which is scary.

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<v Speaker 12>You've heard those stories where you know, any bad incision

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 12>on that and you're voiceless. Other than that, it's just

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 12>my voice. It's just Thibodeau's voice. It's you know, it's

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 12>a lot of screaming and lot arenas, and it happens.

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<v Speaker 12>It does feel stronger now, but this is going to

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<v Speaker 12>be my voice for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Fritzy does an impersonation of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, okay, I've heard a lot of them. Okay,

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>all right, I want you to judge it. All right, Fritzy,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 2>how about you play Doc Rivers and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>interview you after a big win and uh hey, coach, congratulations,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 2>how did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Dan, we played within ourselves. I told the

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<v Speaker 1>guys before we took the court. Forget about the name

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of the back of your jersey. It's only about what's

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>on the front. It was our first team effort in

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't see guys running go to the scores table

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<v Speaker 13>with a video board looking for the stat.

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<v Speaker 1>Line and we went big, we went small. Proud of

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the guys. We got to shore up a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks mam.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, that's that's really good. Slow to case, slow it

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<v Speaker 12>down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Other than that, it's perfect. That was that was really good.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's better than Jamie Fox's impersonation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Fritzi's kind of morphed into Kevin Harland there too,

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.959
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Yeah, Frenzy does a great Kevin Harlan.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nuggets have gone up eight to six and the

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City Thunder want to talk about it? A seven

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 1>ozer run? This is the NBA on TNT.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Kevin is a good friend.

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 12>I did games with Kevin and I remember one of

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 12>his first games and now I'm you know, a season

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 12>bet with Turner in my third year and it was

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 12>a Houston Rockets game. It was the literally and I'm

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 12>not is the third player of the game, and Kevin

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 12>goes b you know, and he looks at me and

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 12>he says, too early, maybe.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>A little bit all right, how would you use Victor

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>one by? How how much playing time would you give

0:28:58.480 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>him if you were coaching him?

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<v Speaker 12>You know what's surprising is all the talk about playing

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 12>time with him. You know, I think you're just gonna

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 12>play him. They see him every day. You know, I

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 12>wouldn't worry about the minutes with him early. I've never

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 12>heard that much talk with rookies. Maybe because of Zion

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 12>people are concerned, or because of his body tight you know,

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 12>Check gets injured last year.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I think Pop is just.

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 12>Gonna play him, you know, thirty thirty five minutes a

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 12>night if he's healthy. But man, I gotta tell you, Dan,

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 12>he looks special, like special special to me in everything

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 12>that I see, and you know, forget the talent and

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 12>all that. What I see that I liked them most

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 12>is he has this this competitive thing in him that

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 12>you can actually see. You saw when they played Oklahoma.

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 12>You saw it after the first bad game in the

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 12>Summer League and that second game. He's done it. He

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 12>did it a bunch last year too. He's played with

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 12>grown men already in his life. Matt Broman, this talented. Yeah,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 12>I just think they're not gonna worry about it, and

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 12>if something tells him too, they will. But I don't

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 12>think that's the game plan. It's worrying about minutes with him.

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Doc Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be on the call for the Mothership Celtics and

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the next tonight at seven Eastern with Mike Breen. Also,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>he'll be working Friday Night Warriors and the Kings at

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>ten eastern.

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Explain to me how Joe Kich does this?

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Boy, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 12>You know. I made a comment like three or four

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 12>years ago, like I mean this at the time. You

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 12>remember when his body didn't look as good as it

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 12>looks now. I was like, this big, overweight bartender is

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 12>destroying us. He's destroying us, and that's how he looked.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 12>And you watch him play then it's absolutely beautiful. In

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 12>almost everything he does is passing his shots.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 3>His shot and.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 12>Making ability doesn't get enough play. You know, obviously he

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 12>could make the three. You know he has great post moves,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 12>but his unorthodox little flip shots in traffic through contact

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 12>and we're talking all that, and then you forget the

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 12>best part of his game in this passing he can.

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 12>He's one of those guys Magic Johnson type that he

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 12>makes his whole team better. Uh, immediately, everybody that plays

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 12>on the floor, I would be I would be scared

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 12>of I was a GM to sign a player from

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 12>the Denver Nuggets, because you're really like, he makes them

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 12>that much better, and so you're trying to evaluate, well,

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 12>if we take them, will this guy.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Be that good?

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>When's the last time you were watching a game as

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>a player or a coach and you found yourself just

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>watching the game, not playing in the game or coaching

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>in the game. You were admiring something that you were seeing.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's a that's a great question.

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 12>It's been a long time, I'll tell you that because

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 12>once you once you coach, at if you've interviewed a

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 12>million coaches, you never watched the game as just the

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 12>game anymore. I'm watching the game last night and Golden

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 12>State I thought, run a terrific play, and the next thing,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 12>you know, I'm jotting it down and trying to figure out,

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 12>you know, different ways to stop it, different ways to

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 12>run it.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 3>If you're on offense.

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 12>You know, you see things a lot in games, you know,

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 12>and so I think from being a player, but more

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 12>from being a coach, it's just hard to watch it

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 12>that way. But you still enjoy You enjoy beautiful basketball,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 12>probably more now.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>But you didn't find yourself as a player going damn,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that's impressive, Like watching it that way.

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did absolutely. You know, when you're playing guys,

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 12>I did, Darb Michael, and there are times I was

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 12>running down the course shaking my head, thinking, damn, that's impressive.

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you do it.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 12>Even as a coach, there's times where especially when guys

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 12>do it on your team, but even when guys on

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 12>the other team, you're just so impressed by some of

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 12>these guys in the way they play.

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that absolutely still crosses your mind.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>If a GM called you to get your opinion on

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>James Harden, you would say, what.

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>That's the maybe the best question someone's asked me.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 12>He went playing right, and if you watch, I tell

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 12>everyone go back to the first half of last year

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 12>where he gave himself to the team. Then we were

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 12>the best team in the NBA for a ten to

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 12>twenty games stretch and it was you know, obviously we

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 12>have Joel and Tyrese and Tobias, but we were because

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 12>James was.

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Being a point guard. You know.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 12>It's funny a coach called me and said, I never

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 12>thought anyone could get him to do that, and he did,

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 12>you know, for a short term.

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I would tell them. And if you

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>can keep them.

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 12>In that and not want to chase numbers or wanted

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 12>to score the thirst of scoring, then you have a

0:33:58.600 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 12>terrific player.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Change though, Doc, what changed? He was playing perfectly? I thought,

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 2>for you guys, yeah.

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 3>He really was.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 12>I would say not making the All Star team really

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 12>bothered him. And I thought that that was egregious. You know,

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 12>the coaches just didn't put them on. You know, he

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 12>was only leading the league in scoring or an assist.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 12>He was having his best three point percent and shooting

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 12>a year of his career. He was averaging plus twenty

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 12>and the coaches didn't put him on the All Star team.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 3>And he would never say.

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 12>This, but in my gut, I thought it changed almost immediately.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 12>Remember about a game or two after that, he called

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 12>me and said, hey, I want to start coming and

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 12>playing with the second unit more.

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 3>And I know.

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Exactly what that means, more shots.

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 3>More shots. I want to go back to attack it

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>and playing. And you know, we had.

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 12>Our ups and downs from that point on. You know,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 12>it was funny about our relationship. It was an honest one.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 12>I'll tell you that.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 3>It's probably why I'm doing TV right now. But you

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 3>have to be honest as a.

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 12>Coach and you have to you have to just keep

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<v Speaker 12>selling it, like listen, when you do this, it may

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<v Speaker 12>not be the best or most fun for you, but

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 12>we are a better team. And I never relented on that,

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<v Speaker 12>and I thought he appreciated that, even he've been at.

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<v Speaker 3>The very end.

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<v Speaker 1>But more frustrating Harden or Ben Simmons.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 12>I would say maybe James, only because James can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>like when he did, we were great. Ben was frustrating

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<v Speaker 12>a whole different way, you know, you know, just the

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<v Speaker 12>mental part, the health part, the injury part, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>just the work ethic part. I mean, all those things.

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<v Speaker 12>And so that was a different type of frustration. I

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<v Speaker 12>didn't I didn't have the frustration when being thinking if

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 12>Ben did this, we can win it.

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 3>But I surely had that with James.

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<v Speaker 12>And so because I'm in it to win it, I

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<v Speaker 12>think maybe that would be more frustrating for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus, it must be tough to coach somebody that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they love basketball. Certain guys are good

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>at sports. You gotta love basketball. And I wondered if

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<v Speaker 2>Ben loved basketball or he was just good at basketball.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I would say, I agree with that. There are times,

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<v Speaker 12>and that's through the league, you know that, like, if

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<v Speaker 12>you don't love the game, you can only be good

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<v Speaker 12>at it. And I've always said this, the playoffs always

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 12>exposes guys who really love them because the pressure of

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 12>the playoffs and the intensity of the games. If you

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 12>don't absolutely love it, it will eat you up. It does,

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 12>and you can see it every year with certain guys,

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 12>and so yeah, I would say you're right on that

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<v Speaker 12>like that that I always look at Ben though, And

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<v Speaker 12>this is the coach park that probably does us all

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<v Speaker 12>in Dan, like every coach, if the if were like man,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 12>I tell you if he loved it, or if if

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 12>I could get him to play this way, like he

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 12>is a freak of nature athletically, body wise, vision wise.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 3>But the rest of the park wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the broadcasting community, Doc are you Are

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 2>you here for good? Or is this just a temporary John?

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know the answer to that yet.

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<v Speaker 6>Dan.

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<v Speaker 12>Right now, I would say I feel like it's something

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 12>that I want to just do. I'm having the most

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 12>fun that I've had in a long time. And that

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 12>didn't cause it three in the morning, you know, so

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 12>it's a pretty good life. So I'm playing on staying there.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you. We'll be listening tonight watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us, Doc oh always thank you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Doc Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>He is going to be on the Call to night

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<v Speaker 2>the mother Ship. Some very revealing stuff. We'll discuss that

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<v Speaker 2>when we return, plus Fritzi's tribute song to the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been warned back after this. If I'm one thing today,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm full of energy. I might be full of other things,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 2>but I had a great night sleep because every great

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>day starts the night before. That allows me to put

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<v Speaker 2>up with Fritzie. You need your energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You always have energy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an interesting conversation with Doc Rivers took a

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>left turn there talking about James Harden when things changed

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 2>for James Harden, and Doc thinks when he didn't make

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the All Star team, he decided that he wanted to

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>go back to being the old James Harden. He also said,

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating because James can as opposed to Ben Simmons,

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>and he was inferring that Ben can't. Ben has all

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the talent, But I said, what's more frustrating and he

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 2>was saying, Harden because he can do all these things

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>really well, Ben can't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yees, Pauline, I learned more about how the Sixers season

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 4>ended in the last five minutes than I learned in

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 4>the last past five months. Yeah, that's a first where

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 4>it felt like it was a real statement by a

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 4>real person who is part of it.

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>That was honest, Like, that's what it felt like. I

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>was having a conversation with Doc privately and he was

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 2>airing that publicly. All right, scene, would you update the

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<v Speaker 2>poll results then? For she has his tribute song to

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<v Speaker 2>the Arizona Diamondbacks that nobody asks.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 7>For it's very exciting that tribute song. Okay, Dann, we

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 7>got two poll questions working right now? Okay, all right,

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 7>who you got? Rangers are Diamondbacks?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now?

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<v Speaker 7>Seventy percent of the audience got the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 7>And then are you more happy that the Rangers and

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 7>Diamondbacks won or the Astros and Phillies lost? That also

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 7>is seventy percent more excited that the Astros and Phillies lost.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Todd.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd had some kind of inspiration at two in the morning,

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and this is based off the Creed song Higher that

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 2>seems to have a resurgence. I don't know if it

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 2>ever had a Surgeons, but it's a resurgence. Yeah, nobody

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 2>ever says you got a surgeons. It's a resurgence. So

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<v Speaker 2>Todd is Marvin gonna have music? Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 13>the bank te Baxing nle Penant got further than we

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<v Speaker 13>thought that Theayward d Baxinle Champions. That just doesn't sounds

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<v Speaker 13>Ugers correct. No Wheeler, no Turner, no marshits over, no timing,

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<v Speaker 13>the pill eser gone ye boxing Now pennants. How did

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<v Speaker 13>zone may kid here? D baxin le champions the desert

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<v Speaker 13>on expected cheer, Just face it empty bats from the fields.

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<v Speaker 13>Will at least your eagles can fly? Dee Backs just

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<v Speaker 13>won the bands?

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<v Speaker 1>Who they're after?

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<v Speaker 13>Rangers on Friday Nights? T Baxer, No champions, while those snakes.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure have some bites.

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 13>No Dodgers, no Parlies, no Breves, no.

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Astros, no O's.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Rays or Jays, Maxic.

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<v Speaker 13>New champions, Babby over five hundred?

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 13>T Boxer now Champions for Classic. No raidings, no shares.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, that's a lie. Who thank you, Todd.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Arizona appreciates that final hour on the way

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<v Speaker 2>Dan in the days and Fritzie, more of your phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls coming up right after this Dan Patrick's show