Speaker 1: I went to a cannibal corpse in Ma Suga concert
Speaker 1: last night, and I did not eat or drink enough before.
Speaker 1: I was so busy all day that I like had
Speaker 1: like low blood sugar and just kind of like asked
Speaker 1: out in the most forty year old way. The medic
Speaker 1: asked my friends like, yo, what's this guy on? And
Speaker 1: my buddy was like, dude, I think he just has
Speaker 1: the water and he's old. What he said to the medic,
Speaker 1: I remember, he goes, dude, nothing. We just got here.
Speaker 1: We had some pizza and shit, he just needs water
Speaker 1: and stuff. I think he's old. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: funny fuck it was. And then it was like a
Speaker 1: curb your enthusiasm moment, like as I got to like
Speaker 1: the edge of the thing and the security is like, okay, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta get on this gurney and I'm like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: I just need to like sit down. They're like our liability,
Speaker 1: like if you go down or something, we need you
Speaker 1: on this gurney. So like I have to share this
Speaker 1: picture like of me on like on the gurney, like
Speaker 1: looking confused at my friend. Like in this metal show
Speaker 1: where like it's like you.
Speaker 2: If you were truly and old, you would have been like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'd love to lie down on the
Speaker 2: gurney right now and watch the shot. Say extra for this.
Speaker 1: They got me like in the concourse. I was like,
Speaker 1: actually them, I'm a chill here for a second. But
Speaker 1: all the the e mts like trainees. This one person
Speaker 1: it took like four minutes for them to get my
Speaker 1: blood pressure. I was like, you went like the I'm fine.
Speaker 2: This student cosmetology school for a haircut, but it's.
Speaker 1: For medical for real, for real.
Speaker 2: I would like, I think that's okay that you passed
Speaker 2: out at a heavy metal concert. If you pass out
Speaker 2: at like a Jason Moras concert, then we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to worry if if you're like at NYA, just like,
Speaker 2: oh god, this is too much, oh ya?
Speaker 1: And is heavy in this house? Banger, Hello the Internet,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Season three, eighty three, Episode five, All
Speaker 1: of the Daily's Like guys, the production of iHeartRadio. This
Speaker 1: is the podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: American shared consciousness. It's fucking Friday. Thank god, it's Friday. TG.
Speaker 1: If it's four eleven, April eleventh, you ask me what
Speaker 1: day is that. What are we celebrating day? Well, April
Speaker 1: eleventh is uh National do what? The National Submarine Day? Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to everybody trying to check out the Titanic.
Speaker 1: If you're a billionaire national cheese want to day? Oh what?
Speaker 2: Because then don'tly have like a submarine or some shit?
Speaker 1: Knowing every police department getting like old military hardware, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I wouldn't surprised it. Like the Omaha, Nebraska
Speaker 1: Police Department also had a submarine.
Speaker 2: And you're like, that's what I got into this job.
Speaker 2: For the subs.
Speaker 1: The subs. At first it was sandwiches and then they
Speaker 1: were literally given.
Speaker 2: A submarine kind of sub.
Speaker 1: Hey for the olds out there like me who are
Speaker 1: forty years old and having a little bit of a
Speaker 1: fainting spell at the show. It's also National eight Track
Speaker 1: Tape Day and National Barbershop Quartet Day.
Speaker 2: Fine, god, wow, I don't know what those are. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm so young and beautiful.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of that is.
Speaker 1: Look at my skin wrinkle free? What's an eight track?
Speaker 1: What's a cassette tape? What's VHS?
Speaker 2: A lady track or eight track?
Speaker 1: Anyway, I am Miles Gray aka the Showgun with No Gun,
Speaker 1: the Lord of Lankerston North, Hollywood's finest, and I'm pleased
Speaker 1: to be joined today by my guest co host, fantastic comedian,
Speaker 1: writer talker, uh what else? Scientist, a learned person who
Speaker 1: actually have a thing I wanted to talk about because
Speaker 1: you were on today relating to the dire Wolf, because
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about science. But also you may
Speaker 1: know her from the monthly comedy show Facial Recognition Comedy,
Speaker 1: but we know her as the person who burned my
Speaker 1: house down. Please welcome to the microphone.
Speaker 2: Poly Hey, it's me Jack O Bright. I can't do
Speaker 2: with Jack. How do you do with Jack impression?
Speaker 1: It's hard, you got it? Even I would study more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are certain affects you have to pick up. But
Speaker 1: one thing. He'll talk like this sometimes and it changes
Speaker 1: the acoustics. Sometimes you can talk.
Speaker 2: Really he talks like he's going through the great depression.
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounds. It sounds sad. When you
Speaker 2: rest your oath like the double hand in your face,
Speaker 2: that's it's the one hand on your face. That's time.
Speaker 1: That's great depression. Well, Paula, we are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined by a very talented human being. Look, I'm again,
Speaker 1: I'm a little hesitant to have people who are very
Speaker 1: accomplished on the show because it makes me look small.
Speaker 1: But in a way, so much, thank you exactly. I
Speaker 1: have a humility kink. I like to be humbled, very
Speaker 1: very politely. But the thing is this person is you
Speaker 1: probably know her from YouTube, you maybe know her from
Speaker 1: her podcasting, even as a relationship coach or most recently,
Speaker 1: as the author of the new book Save the Date.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to the microphone the brilliant and talented, wonderful
Speaker 1: Alis Erosco.
Speaker 4: Wow, that was maybe my favorite intro of all time.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I panicked through the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you didn't notice it. It was It
Speaker 1: was truly still flooding.
Speaker 2: But it's also just from being old.
Speaker 1: Everything's from being old. Shut up, my boy, Mike, who
Speaker 1: told the medics dude, I think he's just old. Dude, Allison,
Speaker 1: Great to see you, another book, another banger. You can
Speaker 1: tell how many books have you written now?
Speaker 2: Like this is that this is my fifth one? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I haven't even read that many books in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, I'm still stuck on Genesis in the Bible.
Speaker 4: Each time it's the minimum word count, they'll be like,
Speaker 4: it's got to be at least this, and I'll be like,
Speaker 4: here is just that.
Speaker 2: If you push like a paperback and forth across the
Speaker 2: table with your editor, you're just like, how about few words?
Speaker 1: And it gets wrinkled because you're both pushing it at
Speaker 1: each other at the same time. No, no, no no,
Speaker 1: And they're like, Alison, were we got your manuscript. It's
Speaker 1: in size fourteen fun double space, but hey, how many
Speaker 1: pages is it? Ahh? So we ready, we ready? What's
Speaker 1: the new book about?
Speaker 4: So this is a rom com roman's novel that's like
Speaker 4: based off of my own broken engagement because in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: my fiance at the time just was like randomly like, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm leaving, really give a bunch of We were like
Speaker 4: in the middle of an episode of Lucifer.
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Really?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Why have you ruined Lucifer for you? How dairy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 4: And then I tried to go back to it later
Speaker 4: and I was like, I can't really re engage with this,
Speaker 4: and he didn't really give me much of an explanation.
Speaker 4: So it was like middle of the pandemic, total nightmare.
Speaker 4: I flew home to New York from LA to be
Speaker 4: with my family, and my dad started like making these jokes.
Speaker 4: He was like, well, why don't you just find a
Speaker 4: new groom in time for your wedding, Like just marry
Speaker 4: just like marry somebody else. And I was like, Dad,
Speaker 4: that's like a banana's idea for a real person.
Speaker 2: But it's a wonderful I guess. Can I tell you?
Speaker 2: My mom had a similar thing. My brother is engaged
Speaker 2: to someone, they have a kid together, they have a house,
Speaker 2: they're family right, but they haven't gotten married yet as
Speaker 2: far as we know. And so when my other when
Speaker 2: my cousin in India was getting married, my mom just
Speaker 2: started going around telling everyone. She was like, why don't
Speaker 2: they both just get married? He can come up, they
Speaker 2: can do a dual wedding. They could both be on
Speaker 2: the DIA, so some pirs could just marry them, get
Speaker 2: it done. Nobody had approved this, she was telling everyone,
Speaker 2: none of you, olbody was on board with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love when parents just do that thing, just
Speaker 1: just brute force. I'm unilaterally just everything for everyone. And
Speaker 1: I don't care if anyone has a different opinion, and
Speaker 1: I won't acknowledge agency either. This is my idea.
Speaker 2: If that's another terminal illness of becoming an.
Speaker 1: Old we will definitely see that in our news stories.
Speaker 1: But yes, Allison, good to have you. We are going
Speaker 1: to get to know even better. I'm going to do
Speaker 1: this quick couple headlines up top because they are worth
Speaker 1: talking about, at least informing you about. And if we
Speaker 1: want to talk, if you want to learn about it more,
Speaker 1: you can check out the articles we're talking about in
Speaker 1: the footnotes. But it's just kind of like more cleaning
Speaker 1: up house in the House of Representatives. The House just
Speaker 1: passed a sweeping voter suppression bill. This is a bill
Speaker 1: that would require everyone registering to vote or updating their
Speaker 1: voter registration information to present documentary proof of citizenship in person.
Speaker 1: Many studies have shown that millions of eligible voters lack
Speaker 1: the access to documents that prove their citizenship, like a passport,
Speaker 1: birth certificate, naturalization papers, especially where you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people point out that a lot of passport holders
Speaker 1: tend to reside in blue states than red states. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how this helps anything, but at the
Speaker 1: very least. This is also a thing, huge thing for
Speaker 1: anyone who has ever changed their name for any reason,
Speaker 1: legally would essentially make it very difficult for you to
Speaker 1: vote again. So right now, as it stands, the Senate
Speaker 1: doesn't seem too interested in picking up this bill. But
Speaker 1: so this is probably just more for them to pretend
Speaker 1: like they're doing something in the House, but something they
Speaker 1: did actually get done in the House. They did advance
Speaker 1: Trump's budget bill in a twenty sixteen to twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: vote with some Democrats who helped fucking get it over
Speaker 1: the line. So to that party, what is that?
Speaker 2: How do you live with yourself?
Speaker 1: I think people are so worried about getting voted out,
Speaker 1: Like the thing these people always say like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: this just isn't popular in my district, and it's just
Speaker 1: something I'm going to have to do what works for me,
Speaker 1: which is bring in the gutting of Social Security and
Speaker 1: other safety nets and give a huge tax break to
Speaker 1: the wealth. Okay, sure that's popular for Is that popular
Speaker 1: because that's actually what you're doing here. So well, this
Speaker 1: is the first step of many steps to get to
Speaker 1: that bill that Trump has been screaming about. That will
Speaker 1: essentially be like, how do we give more money to
Speaker 1: billionaires while we cut social safety programs and food stamps
Speaker 1: and things like that. This is the beginning of that process.
Speaker 1: So much fighting to come or or not from the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you think this is this is
Speaker 1: the time to get your fighting shoes on. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Alison raskin our Steam guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, recently I've had to like google if if cottage
Speaker 4: cheese is okay to give a dog with a bad
Speaker 4: stomach because my dog, my dog has diarrhea.
Speaker 2: What dogs can eat all the time? That's all morning.
Speaker 2: I was like, is it okay for my dog to
Speaker 2: like air conditioning water? It's not. It's not today. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that seems bad.
Speaker 1: Wait, like the condensation that comes out of like.
Speaker 2: The it drips out of and then I walk outside
Speaker 2: my apartment and then he's just like, well this is water,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're killing me. Do you love an
Speaker 2: affair with the vet? Is that what's happening? You know?
Speaker 2: It's just like bacteria and mold. I look it up,
Speaker 2: legionnaires disease. I'm like, I can't read this humans.
Speaker 1: No on my.
Speaker 2: Dog loves found water.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think that this dog wasn't being hydrated
Speaker 4: on the regular, Like if he finds water, that's like
Speaker 4: not meant to be for him.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm really like, my.
Speaker 1: Dog loves like like where like on a sidewalk where
Speaker 1: the grass patches, like at the corner sometimes sprinkler water
Speaker 1: pools right there. Just like he's I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: that is? Gross? Dude, you don't even like like what
Speaker 1: is this?
Speaker 2: He like peas in his water bullet home. He's like,
Speaker 2: fuck this, give me that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Take me outside for that mud.
Speaker 2: Wait, so you were gonna yeah, it's your dog. And
Speaker 2: also he said you were googling something else right after.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know if I was to be honest, honestly,
Speaker 4: what's really embarrassing is what I've mostly been googling is
Speaker 4: like my book reviews. So oh, hell yeah, do I
Speaker 4: want to admit that. I guess I will a lot
Speaker 4: of googling my good Reads page, a lot of.
Speaker 2: My name slash news. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, Alison, you don't have a Google alerts just
Speaker 1: set up for this. I mean, let it do the
Speaker 1: work for it.
Speaker 4: I don't have it for me, and my dad has
Speaker 4: it and then he forwards.
Speaker 1: Me perfect perfect, perfect, perfect perfect. What's the mean? Thing?
Speaker 1: Is underrated?
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this.
Speaker 4: I think in America at least, that tea is underrated,
Speaker 4: like like gossip. Oh no oh, I feel like it's
Speaker 4: appropriately rated.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean like like black tea, green tea, or bal tea,
Speaker 4: like I feel.
Speaker 2: Throwing it into the Boston harbor. We don't give a
Speaker 2: shit about tea, right right.
Speaker 4: And like we're a real coffee nation, and as someone
Speaker 4: with like serious acid refl you cannot drink coffee anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm all about tea, and there's so many more varieties.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: True, you're like googling, can I take cottage cheese for
Speaker 2: my acid reflux.
Speaker 1: And also dog diarrhea? I want to buy one thing
Speaker 1: that help works for both of us. Yeah great, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably did. Tea was drinking your home?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because I'm like half North Indian, which is
Speaker 2: like the tea half, and then half South Indian, which
Speaker 2: is like the coffee half. So we're a split house.
Speaker 2: We're a mixed drink household.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's the what's South, Like, what's the coffee like
Speaker 1: in first like South India?
Speaker 2: Oh fucking good, Oh my god, did they call it
Speaker 2: Madras coffee? I don't even know, man, it's just how
Speaker 2: they make it and then they bring it out to
Speaker 2: you in these in this like it's piping hot and
Speaker 2: these tumblers and you have to cool it down by
Speaker 2: pouring it like into the the thing that tumbler. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just I love South Indian tea or coffee, and
Speaker 2: like the tea in India also really good, but they
Speaker 2: make it on the stove with all the masala and everything,
Speaker 2: like all of the ginger or whatever they want to
Speaker 2: put in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up drinking tea too. Shout out my mom,
Speaker 1: Shout out Japan, because that's also just a bunch of
Speaker 1: hell yeah and yeah, but I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: thing like I always forget about how much I actually
Speaker 1: enjoy drinking tea, like more than coffee. Feels like it
Speaker 1: feels like just capitalist toil fuel that you have to drink.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like I feel like tea just feels a
Speaker 1: little bit more like this feels like a treat versus
Speaker 1: like I need to wake the fuck up, man, I
Speaker 1: need to get that's.
Speaker 2: True, you fuck up. I've like conditioned myself. I never
Speaker 2: I didn't used to like the bitterness, like when I
Speaker 2: was like growing up of like coffee or like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I liked it, but like I had to add a
Speaker 2: bunch of sugar and stuff. But now I'm like, I
Speaker 2: have a decaf coffee that I use because I like
Speaker 2: the taste and it's not fully uncaffeinated. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: I need my warm treat drink, you know, in the morning.
Speaker 1: I know we all need our warm treat drink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite? Ta Alison?
Speaker 4: Just for the record, I really love like when there's
Speaker 4: an earl gray that's like infused with vanilla.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's hard to be.
Speaker 1: I had a lavender earl gray lot like a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I was like, oh, there's.
Speaker 2: Some Have you been to the pie hole? That's an
Speaker 2: la thing actually, but they have like an earl gray
Speaker 2: pie pie. It's so good.
Speaker 1: The gray pie is fucking All the pies.
Speaker 2: Are great, but this one is so good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, it's always upsetting to me when it's like, what
Speaker 4: black tea do you have in there? Just like English breakfast. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's like, I'll do it. It's like like, where's
Speaker 4: your earl grey?
Speaker 2: That's yeah, you take his breakfast and then it just
Speaker 2: tastes like beans and toast. You're like, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, here we forgot your button mushrooms in
Speaker 1: there too. Oh and then here's some rashers of bacon
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: Along with it.
Speaker 1: Alison, what's something thing is overrated?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: So as a as a dating coach, I think a
Speaker 4: relationship coach. I never referred to myself as a dating
Speaker 4: coach before you make money.
Speaker 2: If you say you're a dating coach, though, how you
Speaker 2: thought about being an alpha male influencer. I've tried it.
Speaker 2: It didn't work out. I can't do enough push ups.
Speaker 4: So I think something that's overrated is chatting on an
Speaker 4: app for a long time before meeting a person. You
Speaker 4: got to hold the person, yeah, gott or you even
Speaker 4: like a FaceTime you got to get it off of texting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then people are doing it.
Speaker 1: What I mean, logically, I get it, but I've been
Speaker 1: out of the dating game for what is it five
Speaker 1: eleven years now, I'm but I'm also assuming it's the
Speaker 1: same thing where it's like you there are people can
Speaker 1: some people are so different over text, and then you
Speaker 1: meet them, like not even in a dating context, like
Speaker 1: even from working like with people in production, and then
Speaker 1: you meet them and they're like so different than the
Speaker 1: way they text, and you're like, am I it? Do
Speaker 1: they hate me? Or am I not as funny as
Speaker 1: I was on text? Yeah? Definitely got to meet.
Speaker 2: People sometimes, especially when I was messaging men, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: this conversation is so funny and so good, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. And then I looked back after
Speaker 2: like meeting them, and I was like, wait, I was funny.
Speaker 1: They were just being generous.
Speaker 2: They were like, uh cool, and I was like making
Speaker 2: all these bits by myself.
Speaker 4: And I also think it just like adds to the
Speaker 4: like the gamification of yes, online dating, where people like
Speaker 4: don't take it seriously because they're just like talking to
Speaker 4: a bunch of different people. And then people are like,
Speaker 4: I don't get why it's not working right.
Speaker 1: Because it feels I mean I have like like one
Speaker 1: of my younger cousins who's like in his like early thirties.
Speaker 1: The way they talk about dating too, it just feels
Speaker 1: like they're truly just playing like a numbers game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just right, And it's their fault because like the
Speaker 4: apps are just right right, but you have to like
Speaker 4: fight against the interface.
Speaker 1: Right because then I'm like, but isn't the whole point?
Speaker 1: Like dating is just sort of like ah shit, I
Speaker 1: got it, like the pre app. You know, when I
Speaker 1: were younger, you would go and then like you just
Speaker 1: go on a bunch of dates and meet people, and
Speaker 1: you're like, eh, sometimes you try and make it work.
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess because of the volume of interactions
Speaker 1: you're trying to have. You're not trying to get hung
Speaker 1: up on one thing. But I feel for y'all. I
Speaker 1: feel for y'all out there. I feel for y'all out there.
Speaker 1: You know I did.
Speaker 2: I did take this advice. I started swiping with intention
Speaker 2: like any red flags, I swiped left immediately, and then
Speaker 2: I initiated the conversation whenever we matched, and I made
Speaker 2: sure to respond right away and then tried to meet
Speaker 2: in person. And that's how I got the boyfriend that
Speaker 2: I got from like a dating app. Like the one time,
Speaker 2: it was like the second person I swiped on and
Speaker 2: we met up and it like worked out at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I like to call it dating productively.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because then you don't burn yourself out because you're
Speaker 4: having like less but more like quality interactions.
Speaker 2: That's how you get maximum games in your relationship. You
Speaker 2: have to do it while you're working on your push ups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, you'll be doing one art one arm push ups.
Speaker 1: Fucking right, Bro, you're sick as fuck. Dude. Just wait, dude,
Speaker 1: you will not be alone. I'm there with you every
Speaker 1: step of the way.
Speaker 2: All right, enough, have you heard of this bit?
Speaker 1: Quick kidding? Okay, all right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and talk about just everything that's happening,
Speaker 1: but also we also check in with some some just
Speaker 1: right wing men who I think are doing okay, I
Speaker 1: think everyone's doing. Okay, we'll do that in a second
Speaker 1: after this and we're back. Oh, I forgot to tease
Speaker 1: what things we're talking about, just so you know. We're
Speaker 1: about to talk tariffs, We're about to talk right wing
Speaker 1: guys and the dire Wolf coming back. And no, Hitler
Speaker 1: is not a lie and did not end up in
Speaker 1: Columbia or Argentina like people on the internet are screaming
Speaker 1: about right now, And we'll tell you why. I think
Speaker 1: it's just called the fact that we know for certain
Speaker 1: that he is dead. But anyway, that doesn't stop doesn't
Speaker 1: stop nazi freaks from getting in looked, what fools?
Speaker 2: What are they keeping?
Speaker 1: Foremost, but just touch really quickly the Trump tariff nonsense.
Speaker 1: The market manipulation is so at the time we're recording yesterday,
Speaker 1: like he had just announced the tariff pause, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: sh what the fuck is he doing? And then a
Speaker 1: little I got a little distance, you look at it
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this motherfucker is manipulating the stock market.
Speaker 1: He basically was telling followers to a be cool, and
Speaker 1: then after that very quickly was like, hey, it's a
Speaker 1: great time to buy stocks. Uh. And then he rescinded
Speaker 1: most of the tariffs, and then there was a brief
Speaker 1: jump in trading and the line went up for a second.
Speaker 1: But it still continues to go down. Let's not let's
Speaker 1: not kid ourselves here. Even though he said announced a pause,
Speaker 1: the economy is still headed in the wrong direction, and
Speaker 1: people still fear a recession is a very possible thing.
Speaker 1: Democrats are now calling for an investigation from the Office
Speaker 1: of Government Ethics. I'm sure that'll yield something. Trump was
Speaker 1: accused of this in his last term too, so this
Speaker 1: is something he's been doing since the eighties, where he
Speaker 1: would buy a bunch of stock, or his dad would
Speaker 1: buy a bunch of stock in a company, then leak
Speaker 1: like a rumor that he was about to take over
Speaker 1: said company, and when the stock price went up as
Speaker 1: a result of the rumors, they just sell it off
Speaker 1: and make a profit. So like, for example, January of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, Fred Trump bought eighty six hundred shares
Speaker 1: of time Ink for like nine hundred and thirty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars of this is from his tax returns. Seven days later,
Speaker 1: a financial columnist who's like friends with Donald Trump broke
Speaker 1: the news that Donald was had quote taken a sizable
Speaker 1: stake in time Ink, and then sure enough the share
Speaker 1: price jumped. Fred Trump sold and made like forty grand
Speaker 1: in like two weeks, and then just kind of they
Speaker 1: just kept doing shit crazy.
Speaker 2: It just might work.
Speaker 1: It just might work a bunch of times since the eighties.
Speaker 1: But like when people caught on to the fact that
Speaker 1: they kept doing this like fake ass hype takeover shit,
Speaker 1: Fred Trump ended up losing like like almost two million
Speaker 1: dollars when they tried to do this with American airlines.
Speaker 1: So people eventually caught on.
Speaker 4: This is like what happens with those meme coins or
Speaker 4: like the new the new bitcoins that celebrities will drop.
Speaker 4: And then so like with the Hawk, ta girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get the get all the interest going up, say
Speaker 1: I'm in it for the long haul, drive the price up,
Speaker 1: and then guess who's selling real quick? Oh, now you're
Speaker 1: holding the bag.
Speaker 2: Do you think the leak was uh Trump's alter ego
Speaker 2: John Baron or whatever the fuck?
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot who knows. I mean, he kind
Speaker 1: of no. At this point in his senility. I think
Speaker 1: he's just saying he's just doing it out loud, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's like, I'm rinning it back then, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 4: It's also so funny that like his his like people
Speaker 4: are like, this was a very strategic decision because that
Speaker 4: we meant, we meant.
Speaker 2: To get rid of the terror episode. It was always
Speaker 2: for strategy.
Speaker 4: And then they go to Trump and Trump's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: people were getting yippie, so I'm like, I'll give up.
Speaker 1: Then they're like, oh, he's like, you know, so many
Speaker 1: countries these seventy five countries that are gonna get relief.
Speaker 1: They're like, what countries are those can't tell you, Okay,
Speaker 1: but they did come to negotiate, which ones don't know.
Speaker 2: Don't know, nobody could know. There's no way to.
Speaker 1: Know what's It's so in your face at this point,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are like they really do
Speaker 1: need to look into this because it's so clear, like
Speaker 1: this was very fucking odd because he had charge like
Speaker 1: literally charged Charles Schwab, the investor in the Oval office
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, right after like the the tariffs had been announced.
Speaker 1: Then he like he gestures to Charles Schwab and this
Speaker 1: other guy, Roger Penske, who owns like a NASCAR team,
Speaker 1: and he goes, he made two point five million today
Speaker 1: and he made nine hundred million. That's not bad. Uh,
Speaker 1: what are you saying? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: That's like nuts? Again, Well, I didn't know Charles Schwab
Speaker 2: was a real person and not just a bank.
Speaker 1: That you couldn't want me too.
Speaker 4: I was like, tries he still alive. I would have
Speaker 4: thought he was a real person.
Speaker 1: He's eighty seven years old, and he looks he looks
Speaker 1: like if you look at me. Oh, that's Charles Schwab.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely looks like Charles.
Speaker 1: Dude. The brand is so strong that he somehow he
Speaker 1: carved out a unique lane visually as like an.
Speaker 2: Eighty seven, as like the older the biggest CEO in
Speaker 2: like mad Men. I'd be like, yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, the stock market hasn't recovered. Uh. And
Speaker 1: while Trump and maybe his friends certainly made a little
Speaker 1: bit of money, the reports around the change of heart
Speaker 1: sound like Trump was being just pressured from his advisors
Speaker 1: to change course once people started selling off American bonds,
Speaker 1: which is something that investors usually saw as like a
Speaker 1: solid investment. They're like, yeah, I'm confident in the American economy.
Speaker 1: And then when those bonds were people were like selling
Speaker 1: them off. They're like, okay, so we could go into
Speaker 1: a depression now, And somehow he changed course, which still
Speaker 1: makes it so weird. I'm like, it's intentional, but unintentional.
Speaker 1: But he intended to do it, but not to the
Speaker 1: point where he wanted to be like the person that
Speaker 1: they could lay all the blame on for a recession,
Speaker 1: which I'm sorry, sir, you still are so miss us
Speaker 1: all with this shit. The scary part about this is
Speaker 1: a how wilfully ignorant people in finance are and be
Speaker 1: like the stories we're reading about how the White House
Speaker 1: is managing Trump's moods. So for starters, we talked about
Speaker 1: like all the MAGA influencers that were recently enraged at
Speaker 1: all the money they lost, and some of like some
Speaker 1: of the people too, like Bill Ackman, Jamie Diamond, all
Speaker 1: these like heads of banks and mutual or hedge funds
Speaker 1: and things like that. But you're hearing more and more
Speaker 1: reporting on the fact that only now are like people
Speaker 1: on Wall Street are beginning to question his mental state.
Speaker 1: Quote in the last few days, we have had many
Speaker 1: conversations with macro fan money. This is from Slate. In
Speaker 1: the last few days, we had many conversations with macro
Speaker 1: fund managers, wrote Tom Lee, the head of research at
Speaker 1: the financial analysis firm FS Insights. And their concern is
Speaker 1: that the White House is not acting rationally but rather
Speaker 1: on ideology, and some even fear that this may not
Speaker 1: even be ideologyally. Continued. A few have quietly wondered if
Speaker 1: the president might be insane?
Speaker 2: What has had to happen for you to not have
Speaker 2: seen that till right now.
Speaker 1: I think greed is truly a brain destroying affliction, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. These people have blinders on at
Speaker 1: the expense of like ecological outcomes, societal outcomes to make
Speaker 1: money that they can just fucking miss or ignore, willfully
Speaker 1: ignore all of these signs that this guy rambles constantly,
Speaker 1: has forty five minute brain farts on stage, swaying to
Speaker 1: the fucking village people. And then now they're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Everybody's greedy, everybody's coked out nuts, Like what are you
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: This is fucking Wall Street. That's how you suppose to
Speaker 1: be so wild.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the weirdest part for me is that he's not
Speaker 4: even good at business. I know, it's not even like
Speaker 4: he's like was actually super good at business, and so
Speaker 4: it's like, let's let's see what happens. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: all his businesses failed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are mistaken correlation with causation here because a lot of
Speaker 1: people said, well, in his first term, I made a
Speaker 1: lot of money, and they're like, yeah, do you, and like,
Speaker 1: but even there were there were people like with Wall
Speaker 1: Street acumen that were part of the administration. They kept
Speaker 1: him from his worst instincts, and I figured it would
Speaker 1: just be the same thing. And you're like, are you
Speaker 1: not reading every single indication that we've seen up until
Speaker 1: now where there are no guardrails anymore, and you.
Speaker 2: Report it was like, this is gonna be so much worse.
Speaker 2: There's no one.
Speaker 1: Around him to raise Yeah, this guy has lost it,
Speaker 1: just so you know. And then the other part is
Speaker 1: that all of the people around Trump are now like
Speaker 1: have just been lying to his face over the last
Speaker 1: week about how much people were loving the tariffs and
Speaker 1: that all the news he's reading about markets is just
Speaker 1: haters hating to like was prolonging the situation because they
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do about this. And I think
Speaker 1: this is seen most evidently through the words of the
Speaker 1: Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, who basically it just lies during
Speaker 1: like briefings because she's just performing for Trump. So he
Speaker 1: doesn't like get upset because two days ago said everybody
Speaker 1: in Washington, whether they want to admit it or not,
Speaker 1: knows that this president is right when it comes to tariffs,
Speaker 1: Like that is purely that's for Trump to watch on TV.
Speaker 2: And she really had to reboot her because her circuit's.
Speaker 1: Gotten yeah, someone spilled too much juice on her circuit
Speaker 1: board and now it's getting wacky.
Speaker 2: This is a direct appeal for me to USh of ants.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do go in there, go in there.
Speaker 2: I know she's totally complicit, but no, I say, but you.
Speaker 1: Can tell it's fucking her up. She looks so dead inside.
Speaker 1: Every time. I'm like, woh, girl, we made a deal
Speaker 1: with the devil baby. And it's not.
Speaker 4: Someone who's not even respected. So it's like, yeah, like,
Speaker 4: it's not even like you are with the cool guy.
Speaker 4: You're with the guy that's the butt of the joke
Speaker 4: of the of the party that's ruining the world right.
Speaker 1: And you're like also making excuses for people that are
Speaker 1: in orbit of the White House that are saying like
Speaker 1: we need to normalize Indian hate. And she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he didn't mean it like that, Like these are
Speaker 1: the people that work for.
Speaker 2: Dogs for telling her kids, I'm sure daddy didn't mean
Speaker 2: it like that.
Speaker 1: It's Finney, truly well that internalized white supremacy. It'll do
Speaker 1: it number on you. But again, I think it's important
Speaker 1: to point out now that the there is a pause.
Speaker 1: Now American families are only looking about an average of
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars in increased costs across the board.
Speaker 2: So and I am happy to pay that for America,
Speaker 2: and I'm willing to be unable to afford eggs. It's fine.
Speaker 2: I'll get chickens.
Speaker 1: I'll oh, I'll get chickens. Know what to do about.
Speaker 2: One bedroom home with our.
Speaker 4: Six kids, I'll get It's just I mean, like you
Speaker 4: for solving the birthing crisis.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like there's white kids.
Speaker 1: There's reports like also that the White House is claiming
Speaker 1: that they have polling data that shows that they're not
Speaker 1: losing the working class. And there's there's a poll from
Speaker 1: last week. We don't we haven't even seen what people
Speaker 1: are feeling this week, but from last week where only
Speaker 1: non college white male voters were the people that were
Speaker 1: like in the majority of believing that tariffs were beneficial
Speaker 1: by forty four to forty two percent, so not even
Speaker 1: like runaway, whereas like even non college white women were
Speaker 1: like tariffs are bad. Every non white, non college voter,
Speaker 1: just as a huge majority was like this is fuck shit,
Speaker 1: this is gonna fuck me.
Speaker 2: What do you They were staring at were like barbershop polls.
Speaker 2: They were just getting lost.
Speaker 1: Well, it never ends, It loops around, what kind of references.
Speaker 2: I reverend of a bob a shop court head, I'm
Speaker 2: too young and beautiful.
Speaker 1: Not me, fella, I'm twenty two years old. Now let's
Speaker 1: seeing blue moon and be flat. So yeah, we will
Speaker 1: continue to see what's going on. Look, I think Democrats
Speaker 1: at the moment are still not sure where their souls are.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of the things I've seen come
Speaker 1: out of members of Congress. Are them like, yes, anding
Speaker 1: what Trump's talking about, Like they're still trying to appeal
Speaker 1: to the Trump voting independent with their words, rather than
Speaker 1: like this is all nonsense. You're like, no, it is true.
Speaker 1: President Trump is right that we do need to correct
Speaker 1: some things in terms of trade imbalances and things like
Speaker 1: monetary manipulation. But but just not like this, And you're
Speaker 1: like this is the worst You're not. That doesn't even
Speaker 1: sound like opposition. You just sound like a person in
Speaker 1: the Republican Party that disagrees with the president. This is
Speaker 1: not opposition. The messaging is so clear. They are redistributing
Speaker 1: wealth to the up the highest levels, and they are
Speaker 1: taking away your money right now, they are taking our money,
Speaker 1: our futures. How are elderly family members going to get
Speaker 1: by when they vaporized things like Medicaid and Social Security?
Speaker 1: Like this is I don't understand what they're like. I mean,
Speaker 1: he does have a point. No, he fucking doesn't just
Speaker 1: get to thee that.
Speaker 4: You that you guys are close with who support Trump.
Speaker 1: I'm not like close to, but definitely I have family
Speaker 1: members that are in relationships with people like that, and
Speaker 1: everyone's like.
Speaker 2: I have cousins who are not in this country and
Speaker 2: would not be able to vote that are like send
Speaker 2: me maga merch. Like in the chat, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: you have your own fascists like starting at home, Like
Speaker 2: what are you doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wondering if, like if their opinions have changed
Speaker 4: at all with this.
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to him in a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, I had one friend who voted
Speaker 1: for like always voted for Bush and then voted for
Speaker 1: Romney when Trump came. They couldn't quite get there, but
Speaker 1: they still voted for other Republicans in Congress, and then
Speaker 1: they were so turned off by the first administration they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm never voting for Republicans. Again, that was like the
Speaker 1: person closest to me that I'm like actually friends with.
Speaker 1: That was their whole evolution, but that happened way earlier.
Speaker 1: True believers. I feel like those that group of people
Speaker 1: are like some of my friend's parents and they're they're
Speaker 1: still i think, having trouble coming around to cause like
Speaker 1: their retirement age, and they saw what happened this week,
Speaker 1: and I haven't asked her. I'm like, dude, what's your
Speaker 1: what are your parents saying right now? And they're like,
Speaker 1: they think it's they think it's going to get fixed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that must.
Speaker 4: I think it's like them believing that it is a
Speaker 4: master plan and that like that this is that he's
Speaker 4: so like they have to believe that he's smarter than he.
Speaker 2: Is because is like the definition of a cult, Like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah sure. But I think the one thing that
Speaker 1: was interesting is that with last weekend, when the tariffs
Speaker 1: went into place and peoples four h one k's and
Speaker 1: retirement funds like took a huge hit, a lot of
Speaker 1: people said why is he doing? Like Republicans are like
Speaker 1: not saying he needs to stop, but their first question
Speaker 1: was like why is this necessary, which is usually don't
Speaker 1: question the cult leader. But I think, I mean this,
Speaker 1: as long as the you know, economy is in the
Speaker 1: going in the direction that it is, people are going
Speaker 1: to feel it. And unfortunately that's the only way people
Speaker 1: learn lessons in this country. Like they can.
Speaker 2: I don't even think they will. I mean, you remember
Speaker 2: the people on ventilators who were pissed about COVID like
Speaker 2: as they were dying. Like sure, but I think people
Speaker 2: are just going to go down.
Speaker 1: I think it's like the number of retirees, that group
Speaker 1: of people who are looking at their retirement funds and
Speaker 1: what they think their future is, like they can get
Speaker 1: touched across the board versus people that might have like
Speaker 1: being you know, compromised or all those other medical complications.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not even saying like just wait for it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's really the only thing that
Speaker 1: I can potentially see them being like, wait, but my
Speaker 1: money to doom Boomer Heaven death I have. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. I want to be lying down.
Speaker 2: In the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's the people.
Speaker 4: It's not the people that like identify as MAGA, but
Speaker 4: the people that voted for him, because you'd be better
Speaker 4: for the economy.
Speaker 2: Those are the people we'll get back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you tell those people look at
Speaker 1: your fucking whatever, whatever money you had that was tied
Speaker 1: to the stock market, whether it's you had a stockport
Speaker 1: folio or your retirement. I'm like, it's it's not going
Speaker 1: to go up right now. It's the damage.
Speaker 2: Have a four oh one K from my science jobs
Speaker 2: from back in the day, and I am not logging in,
Speaker 2: baby logged out. I don't need to know. Nobody needs
Speaker 2: to know those numbers.
Speaker 1: I don't need to It won't matter. We'll all be
Speaker 1: toiling in the content farms or something. Yeah, AI to
Speaker 1: spit out listicles. All right, let's talk about just right
Speaker 1: wing men because they're they're doing Okay.
Speaker 2: They don't get enough attention. We got to talk about.
Speaker 1: This is just one of those. Okay, I just want
Speaker 1: to play this clip because it's just it's a it's
Speaker 1: a journey. So there's this pastor, I'm gonna use a
Speaker 1: term pastor, This ethno nationalist, fucking nazi Andrew Isker from Tennessee.
Speaker 1: He's one of these weird ass Christian nationalists who like
Speaker 1: wants to misinterpret the Bible to be like yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's why, guys, there's racism this Bible verse. He was
Speaker 1: also in the news like last year for trying to
Speaker 1: set up shop in a small Tennessee town and trying
Speaker 1: to turn it into like a breeding ground for hate
Speaker 1: and and like bring more Christian nationalists to the to
Speaker 1: the fold and like he said, I wanted to like
Speaker 1: radicalize Maiden Street. That doesn't seem to be working out
Speaker 1: too well. But during one of his podcasts, of course,
Speaker 1: of course, because everyone's a fucking podcaster, I think I
Speaker 1: need to stop podcasting. They were bringing up like the
Speaker 1: con something there. They were started talking about like civil liberties,
Speaker 1: and with this we got like an interesting take on
Speaker 1: basically how Andrew Isker, you know, how he prevents turning
Speaker 1: gay at the airport.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I always worry about that. That's my biggest
Speaker 2: fear at the airport.
Speaker 1: I mean, just listen to that's just just I take this.
Speaker 3: Where was the Constitution when the Patriot Act was Act
Speaker 3: was passed? Give me a break, Like I had to
Speaker 3: be molested at the airport, uh to go to Florida
Speaker 3: right just to get on an airplane because I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go through the the gay beam machine. I
Speaker 3: didn't let CEJ do it. I wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 3: Uh said, you're getting padded down to buddy, I don't
Speaker 3: want them turning you gay.
Speaker 1: Long pause.
Speaker 3: Uh, it appears how a guy touched all over the
Speaker 3: place is uh, on.
Speaker 1: Its face seems worse.
Speaker 3: But you don't really know what's going on, what those
Speaker 3: things are doing to you. So where the imaging goes Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's like yeah, like yeah, who they can just
Speaker 3: take a picture of me?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: First of all, if I had known there was a
Speaker 2: being to turn people gay, I would have been using
Speaker 2: it so much.
Speaker 1: I would have been like pee like gamy Gary all day.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have this technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's fucking go.
Speaker 4: Do you think he's just starved for touch and he
Speaker 4: just like really was like I gotta have a human interaction.
Speaker 2: And I think he does a TSA check involve a hug.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Get molested at the airport.
Speaker 1: Weird way to also say you get off on the
Speaker 1: pat down at the security checkpoint. I mean it must
Speaker 1: be terrifying inside his mind if you are your fucking
Speaker 1: grip on you being straight. It is like dude, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fucking walk in the thing and then the thing
Speaker 1: goes and I get out and I'm gay.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's like the only thing he's like that. It
Speaker 2: has to be that, because why every time have I
Speaker 2: walked through it that I turn gay. I go to
Speaker 2: my I hang out at the clubs making out with
Speaker 2: a dude. It's gotta be the beam. Gotta be the beam.
Speaker 4: I'm not gay when I don't travel, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go to Palm Springs in June just to
Speaker 1: hang out with some of my boys. You know, during
Speaker 1: Pride out there, I turned gay. I don't know what
Speaker 1: happens to me every time I go down. It's like
Speaker 1: so it's just again, it's so horrifying because so many
Speaker 1: of these people, like on their face, have just such
Speaker 1: a wacky relationship with their sexuality and just the concept
Speaker 1: of it in general, and like these are somehow emerging
Speaker 1: thought leaders in very small niches. But anyway, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure he was he was fine.
Speaker 2: If they if they dust my my hands for bomb stuff,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna go trance, dude, I'm gonna go if
Speaker 2: they can you imagine the whole spectrum of being LGBTQ
Speaker 2: is just at the airport security.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder though, he did say it's like I
Speaker 1: don't want somebody taking a picture of me all naked.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is is that it too? Are you also
Speaker 1: humiliated by the thought of your own body? What's going on?
Speaker 1: What's going on, Andrew? Actually, I don't care. But avoid
Speaker 1: the beams, beloved, Avoid the beams.
Speaker 4: It's that same like arrogance, where like every man is
Speaker 4: like any gay guy would be obsessed with me and me.
Speaker 4: It's like, of all the people that go through this machine,
Speaker 4: they want to save my naked image.
Speaker 1: You know, dude, you know they do. Man, they see
Speaker 1: my mustache, they know what's up.
Speaker 2: That's what they see, the mustache image. It's just skeleton
Speaker 2: and skeleton in the hair.
Speaker 1: You're like, whoa, because those things are not even X rays, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, I don't understand. I think
Speaker 1: it's like kind of like an IR scan. That's just
Speaker 1: kind of it's it's not.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm taking notes how to make a gay beamy go.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean like it kind of guess looks
Speaker 1: through your clothes. Oh cool, Yeah, it's not an X ray.
Speaker 1: But anyway, there are if it wasn't they have something.
Speaker 2: You know, how many people would go to the airport
Speaker 2: for medical care like that would be insane, Like it's
Speaker 2: so much easier.
Speaker 1: My lungs on my lum up here down here, I.
Speaker 2: Just fell on my arm. Yeah, I can't get an
Speaker 2: appointment for three months.
Speaker 1: Do you might looking at my hip joint really quick?
Speaker 1: I think I have a bomb in there.
Speaker 2: They actually think that's a hundred. They should put doctors
Speaker 2: in the airport and they become tsa. There was that
Speaker 2: meme of like cops should just start picking up trash
Speaker 2: from like that Seinfeld bit, like if they're just standing
Speaker 2: around it. I think doctors should be at the airport
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Just to do something. Oh, oh, sir, you might want
Speaker 1: to get something. I just just a quick scan. Obviously
Speaker 1: this wasn't a medical X ray, but I would maybe
Speaker 1: just go to your primary care physician just to look
Speaker 1: at something on your back.
Speaker 2: Okay, I found out I was pregnant from the gay beam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the gay beam made me pregnant. Okay, wow, quite
Speaker 1: a beam.
Speaker 4: You care about that girl who is like watching a
Speaker 4: hockey game and she noticed the mole on some player's
Speaker 4: neck and made a sign and she like saved his life.
Speaker 1: That happens a lot. This also happened to somebody on
Speaker 1: a reality show where they thought they might have had
Speaker 1: some kind of thyroid thing happening because they were looking
Speaker 1: at or it was something to do with they had
Speaker 1: a small, very subtle bulge on their neck, like under
Speaker 1: their skin, and someone's like just spamming their comments like
Speaker 1: you should really get this checked out, and they're like,
Speaker 1: I absolutely had a thing that I like. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Oh that's wild.
Speaker 1: Look, we're our own best doctors. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do my own research. I got my own healthcare.
Speaker 2: It's called GoFundMe.
Speaker 1: Okay, exactly, exactly. All right, let's take another break. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. And I got asked the question if dire
Speaker 1: wolves are back, are they? Is it a dire wolf?
Speaker 1: What is this epen? We'll do that right after this,
Speaker 1: and we're back. The dire wolf back or not so.
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, a biotech company called Colossal announced that
Speaker 1: they have brought the dire wolf, which has been extinct
Speaker 1: for about ten thousand years, back from extinction. It is
Speaker 1: now de extinct, as they keep saying, more than a
Speaker 1: few and yes when you're if you're asking the dire
Speaker 1: yeah from Game of Thrones, same fucking thing. More than
Speaker 1: a few outside researchers express their skepticism, and they're noting
Speaker 1: that using like ancient DNA not really useful for this
Speaker 1: kind of context because it's so damaged, and noted that
Speaker 1: the process this company used is more like a remix
Speaker 1: if anything. So they used synthetic biology technology, this from
Speaker 1: the BBC, using the ancient DNA to identify key segments
Speaker 1: of code that they could edit into the biological blueprint
Speaker 1: of a living animal, in this case, a gray wolf.
Speaker 1: So what so this is from a person like one
Speaker 1: of these people who doesn't work for Colossal. They say, quote, so,
Speaker 1: what Colossal has produced is a gray wolf, but it
Speaker 1: has some dire wolf like characteristics, like a larger skull
Speaker 1: and white fur. It's a hybrid, it's not the it's
Speaker 1: not a dire wolf. And like a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, this is so weird that they're insisting that
Speaker 1: it they've brought this thing back, because you know, they're
Speaker 1: like a lot of people when they look at how
Speaker 1: I guess all these species branched off, like the closest
Speaker 1: the gray wolf was to a dire wolf was like
Speaker 1: millions of years ago. And to say that this is
Speaker 1: now de extinct, as one research it put it, is
Speaker 1: like sort of reckless because quote, extinction is still forever.
Speaker 1: If we don't have extinction, how are we going to
Speaker 1: learn from our mistakes? It's the is the message now
Speaker 1: that we can go and destroy the environment and the
Speaker 1: and that animals can go extinct, but we can simply
Speaker 1: bring them back.
Speaker 2: I do actually think that this is a dire wolf
Speaker 2: because it does symbolize the dire times we are and
Speaker 2: I think that's why it should be that name.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that like major media outlets are like saying
Speaker 4: that they brought the dire wolf back.
Speaker 2: It's like so clearly not true.
Speaker 1: It feels like it feels like just like they're chumming
Speaker 1: the waters for the like thirsty news consumers who don't
Speaker 1: want to hear about how everything's going as ship and like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if we said that thing from Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 2: Can roll over?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well one of them. There's like three of them,
Speaker 1: and it's like Romulus, Remiss and Khalisi are the three?
Speaker 2: No fucking way, really, m mm hmmm. That Kali is
Speaker 2: about to burn ship down just when you trust her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also why didn't they name it like one
Speaker 1: of the dire wolf names, like if they're really down
Speaker 1: with you know, the with with the culture. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are pointing out. They're like, where's the fucking book?
Speaker 1: George R. R And Martin, They're like, you literally brought
Speaker 1: back dire Wolff. Can I can we get the book.
Speaker 2: Or the rihanna of literature? We're waiting.
Speaker 1: We can't just keep listening to remixes over and over again.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm de extinct. Sure that does feel a
Speaker 1: little wacky, Like I definitely feel like that. It's like
Speaker 1: a slippery slope when our solutions to like ecological degradation
Speaker 1: is like, well, if like shit just goes so bad,
Speaker 1: we just bring it back to life rather than like
Speaker 1: stopping the bleeding.
Speaker 2: The scientists will be dead. Okay, maybe that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You can't there's a point in which there's no return. Also, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: thinking about this, I'm like, if they're just taking what
Speaker 2: do they identify as the key segments of the DNA
Speaker 2: that make it a dire wolf, Because I'm sure it's degraded,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure, like I just don't if they're just
Speaker 2: taking parts of the DNA and putting it into existing DNA,
Speaker 2: I seriously doubt it's gonna be enough to characterize it
Speaker 2: as such like, yeah, you know, one of the.
Speaker 1: Things that are saying these ancient canids were like more related,
Speaker 1: like the dire wolf's closer to a jackal if anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like a fucking jackal.
Speaker 1: But again there, I think the whole thing that this
Speaker 1: company is in seting on is that like, well, the
Speaker 1: closest relative is a gray wolf. Therefore it is this
Speaker 1: is the this is the dire wolf. But yeah, dire times,
Speaker 1: I would say, the best way to describe it. Okay,
Speaker 1: just one last thing, we just have to you know,
Speaker 1: I hate throwing water on online conspiracy theories, but this one,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so dumb that I think we
Speaker 1: should just don't believe it. Okay. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories claiming that like Hitler survived World War
Speaker 1: Two and didn't have a lead sandwich in the bunker
Speaker 1: and he escaped to South America. Although that was a
Speaker 1: bit in The Simpsons, that theory has been all over
Speaker 1: social media this week because there's supposedly new declassified CIA
Speaker 1: files confirming that quote the conspiracies are true. Just so
Speaker 1: you know, if you ever see a tweet that says
Speaker 1: the conspiracies are true, we can dismiss it out of him.
Speaker 1: But I mean, fine, or.
Speaker 2: Don't Are they doing this because they're like and that's
Speaker 2: why we hate immigrants because one of them is Hitler
Speaker 2: and Persevere.
Speaker 1: You know, they're like, I just think he's an interesting
Speaker 1: figure from history.
Speaker 4: That's I think that's the way they kind of memorabilia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I bought this SS knife.
Speaker 2: Oh have you seen that clip from Succession where Tom
Speaker 2: is like interviewing a candidate for something and he's like, hey,
Speaker 2: just just quick question. Have you ever been associated with
Speaker 2: the Nazi Party? And the guy's like what is this?
Speaker 2: And then he's like have you ever read mind comp
Speaker 2: And he's like, only like two or three times?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that scene so much. It's so good.
Speaker 1: The name of that one episode, shit Show at the
Speaker 1: Fuck Factory, I think really rang true. Oh my god, yep,
Speaker 1: shit Show at the Fuck Factory. But it is so
Speaker 1: it is true. The CIA investigated the possibility that Hitler
Speaker 1: survived and moved to South America more in the sense
Speaker 1: that they're like, let's just make sure their files concluded
Speaker 1: a photo of the guy who was alleged to be Hitler,
Speaker 1: a guy named Adolph Schitdelmeyer. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, bro, come on, you moved to Columbia and
Speaker 1: then make your way to Argentina. You keep your mustache
Speaker 1: and your first name, and you're and you're just just
Speaker 1: getting by. Nobody knows you, okay.
Speaker 2: Well because normally when you get a disguise, you put
Speaker 2: a mustache on. So this guy maybe he had like
Speaker 2: a slightly larger mustache.
Speaker 1: Slightly thicker than his normal sort of like yeah, paint
Speaker 1: brush mustache. Another document suggested that an Argentinian spa hotel
Speaker 1: may have put Hitler up because the owners were Nazi supporters.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's I could. I sure that might be possible,
Speaker 1: but we know that he did not leave Berlin.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hitler, I know you've been here for a while
Speaker 2: and you're hiding and we love your ideology, but you
Speaker 2: got to clean up after yourself. I mean, come on,
Speaker 2: or at.
Speaker 1: Least let let are some of the housekeeping into to
Speaker 1: tidy up it smells awful. What are you doing with
Speaker 1: the problema?
Speaker 2: He's like Julia Massage was in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like when is like cats or something pissing everywhere,
Speaker 1: They're like the freaks of cat piss. I feel like
Speaker 1: Adolph is going he's he's eight off, is going through
Speaker 1: it in his suite right now. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know how to bring him.
Speaker 2: Keeps playing My Chemical Romance on loud. He's reading the
Speaker 2: Diary of Ann Frank because it's.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, he's like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: The CIA documents just so as a note, they contain
Speaker 1: zero evidence that he survived. They also released the autopsy
Speaker 1: report that supports the historical record that he killed himself.
Speaker 1: Plus like these documents did classified eight years ago, and
Speaker 1: in the very first if you just if you don't
Speaker 1: just look at the part of like may have gone
Speaker 1: to Argentina that people are just assuming you on if
Speaker 1: you read the first paragraph of the documents, they basically say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there is basically nothing in here that could
Speaker 1: be verified. Just just before.
Speaker 2: You read this, I think I feel like if he
Speaker 2: was alive, he would have been verified on Twitter, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have got that silver that silver check
Speaker 1: that only the politicians or the gold one. We're like, no,
Speaker 1: this is that's it, that's him. The other thing, though, too,
Speaker 1: is this is all coming out I think again, because
Speaker 1: Argentina is actually planning to class declassify files on the
Speaker 1: Nazi war criminals that really did escape to that region
Speaker 1: of the country. So I think that's just bringing added
Speaker 1: excitement because you're like, yeah, that's a that's a that's
Speaker 1: a big thing. Actually, yeah, I mean it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean even the US everybody was like, hey, man, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if these guys can help us make some
Speaker 1: fucking Adam bombs or some other ship, we can look
Speaker 1: past all the Nazi ship. It's a very, very very why.
Speaker 2: They can help us do more Nazi ship, We'll look
Speaker 2: past all the Nazi shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about how Adolf Hitler was
Speaker 1: inspired by the US's treatment yes people of color here,
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally that like blew my mind when I
Speaker 2: found that out, that he looked at like the American
Speaker 2: genocide of the Native people as like his inspiration for
Speaker 2: genociding Jewish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dreaming of like Mexican Americans, all of that he
Speaker 1: was just like do you think of it.
Speaker 2: In different timelines for something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're about that shit. Yeah, But there's also this so
Speaker 1: funny there's this one photo that people like, they say, like,
Speaker 1: this is a photo of Hitler as an old man,
Speaker 1: and it was like in a show during this History
Speaker 1: Channel show called Hunting Hitler. But people like were like,
Speaker 1: that is not Adolf Hitler. That is literally Mo Howard
Speaker 1: from The Three Stooges as an old That is so
Speaker 1: funny and it's literally Mo Howard, iconic comedian, Jewish comedian
Speaker 1: Mo Howard. That they're like, that's Hitler and like that's
Speaker 1: him in nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so funny. Yeah, Hitler came
Speaker 2: back as an old Jewish man that would have been
Speaker 2: alive during his lifetime anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, Howard did do in those Three Stooges bits
Speaker 1: from then, like he did do the Hitler character a ton,
Speaker 1: but like it wasn't in any way where you're like,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that was from the perspective of Americans
Speaker 1: making fun of the Nazis. But even then, it's like
Speaker 1: he didn't look like him so much that you're like
Speaker 1: you know what, dude, that might he might be able
Speaker 1: to confuse people down the road. But hey, I like that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just like a random guy that looked like Hitler.
Speaker 2: It was like a verifying famous truly.
Speaker 1: Then people like, that's Larry Bird with just a mad mustache.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's Larry Bird. He's wearing a Celtics uniform. He's
Speaker 1: like playing against Magic Johnson.
Speaker 2: At this photo.
Speaker 1: Say it off, Hitler, Say it off Hitler. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Alison Raskin, thank you so much for joining us on
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Speaker 1: social or otherwise that you're enjoying?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: I've gotten really into the headlines the New York Times,
Speaker 4: like really quick, like updates, and I really love the host,
Speaker 4: Tracy Mumford. And she's like she's getting looser, you know,
Speaker 4: Like when I first started listening, she was like, very
Speaker 4: you know, just stick to the script. And now we've
Speaker 4: getting some goofs. So I've been really excited about that.
Speaker 1: Nice. Just I love when people get goof you.
Speaker 2: Know, I know we do.
Speaker 4: Just I also like think a lot about like the
Speaker 4: like if they talk about it, are they like acknowledging
Speaker 4: that she's getting goof here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love a bit of goofing, don't we?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Pola, thank you so much for guest co hosting being
Speaker 1: a fantastic guest co host, Brian. Where do people find you?
Speaker 1: What's a teacher like?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I uh follow this fellow Caltech alum, which
Speaker 2: is unusual and fun. Katie Mac scientist Astro at astrokatie
Speaker 2: dot com. She had this tweet that was the problem
Speaker 2: with most machine based random number generators is that they're
Speaker 2: not truly random. So if you need genuine randomness, it
Speaker 2: is sometimes necessary to link your code to an external
Speaker 2: random process, like a physical noise source or the current
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Speaker 2: a little bird bit. I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, let's see if there's just just
Speaker 1: I just know. I was gonna play the clip of
Speaker 1: Trump being like, look how much these guys made. There's
Speaker 1: it's literally on. It's like in four K him gesturing
Speaker 1: to Charles Schwab. Let's see there's a where Oh this
Speaker 1: is actually funny. U zeitgang put me onto this image?
Speaker 1: This was who is this? Who tagged me in this?
Speaker 1: I because I want to shout you out. Uh tachyonic
Speaker 1: sloth dot bsky dot social. Uh put me onto this
Speaker 1: post from beatlemoses dot bsky dot social. It's it's like
Speaker 1: a comic book of like a dude, like a vape bro,
Speaker 1: like wearing a neo T shirt. And he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: now check the first panels, like okay, now check this
Speaker 1: second panel. A bunch of giant aliens like in a
Speaker 1: circle watching him blow the sickest vape clouds and doing
Speaker 1: smoke rings.
Speaker 2: It's like the idea that's like the Hobbits watching Gang Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah ships sick dude. The way he timed that
Speaker 1: with the dubstep drop fucking he.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a wizard at all. Maybe he just blew cool.
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Speaker 1: Archives by the artist known as opec Opek. It just
Speaker 1: has very It's like it's like a jazzy sort of
Speaker 1: piano composition. It kind of feels like for people who
Speaker 1: are into like David Axelrod from like the seventies and sixties,
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that gets sampled from hip hop,
Speaker 1: just that very chill, instrumental jazzy music, very nice to
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