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Speaker 1: Fired up? Luke. It's it's Wednesday, It's hump day. This

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Speaker 2: Derek Lewis is something of a overachiever and in many

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I guess like it's almost like a Dennis

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting point, like did he fully maximize

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Speaker 1: I want to take the angle of here's a guy

428
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Speaker 1: who's thirty one. But look, he's only been fighting professionally

429
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: for five years, and he only was fighting in muy

430
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: Thai for a few years before that. You can read

431
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 1: his Wikipedia and I did ask him about in the interview.

432
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's we're gont a furniture store full time,

433
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: and he only went full time into fighting because the

434
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 1: furniture store went out of business. He didn't know what

435
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 1: to do next. Here's a guy who's sort of just

436
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: still figuring out the game, how good he can be,

437
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: and yet is he ready for a stage? This big

438
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: is Lewis somehow and actually an easier fight for him

439
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: than the last two against Rosenstruk and against Volkoff. Do

440
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: you have any fear of him, given how young he

441
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 1: is in the sport walking into the spotlight of a

442
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: title fight in an opponent's backyard. Do we talk enough

443
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: about the things we don't know yet about gon.

444
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: No? But I think the reason why we don't is

445
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: that what we see. Like if you didn't know his resume, right,

446
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: you didn't know how many wins or how many losses,

447
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: or even how many fights the guy had, you just knew, Hey,

448
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up and watch some UFC fights today.

449
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 2: Here are these two UFC fighters. Here's X whoever would

450
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: have been previously, and here's Cyril Gone. And you watch

451
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,959
Speaker 2: serial gon compete, you'd be like, oh, that's an experienced

452
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: competitor who has a clear understanding of what he's doing

453
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: and how to get there in he understands timing and

454
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 2: distance and setups, like all the things that senior advanced

455
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: level fighters get, not just senior level fighters, but senior

456
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: level fighters was sort of significant experience under their belt.

457
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 2: So he actually doesn't have that significant experience, although he's

458
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: got you know, each time he goes out there, it

459
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: certainly gets better and better but you're right, dude. If

460
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: you just look at his resume, you would think there's

461
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: a lot of questions. The problem that you just encounter

462
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: is that it doesn't match what's on tape. I do

463
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: think what the tape shows you is that he's got

464
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: a real keen sense of offense. But he's got a

465
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: very His game I'm not going to say is defensively dominant.

466
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: That's not quite true. But again, his game is neutralizing dominant.

467
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: There is there's still an element of that. He can

468
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: have devastating finishes, but they're not quite as accessible yet,

469
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: and so that tells me that there are still some

470
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: levels of comfortability and experience that he lacks. But what

471
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: he already has is typically the province of someone with

472
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: triple his experience. He's just so good. He got there

473
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: in a short amount of time.

474
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Speaker 1: I think he's a breath of fresh air. Stylistically to

475
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: this division. And look, this is something I asked him about.

476
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: If we can toss to this sound, I'd like to

477
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: get your reaction, because a guy this big, six foot

478
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: five and jacked really should not be this quick. Let's

479
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: hear from Cyril Gon. Well, the way you fight it

480
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: is somewhat magical because we don't see heavyweights who who

481
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: are as quick as you, have the footwork as you. Uh,

482
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: why do you think you're different from everybody else in

483
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: terms of your fighting style? What makes it so different?

484
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: No more, I don't know exactly. Maybe I just studied

485
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: that three years ago. Maybe this is my habit that

486
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: I don't have a pressure and I just want to

487
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 4: make a show photo fun if I win, if I.

488
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 5: Was Uh, that's that's.

489
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 4: That's uncomfortable with that. And yes I have I have

490
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 4: a good foot truck. And maybe this is because I did.

491
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 5: A lot of sprout when I was young, and basketball

492
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 5: so cross and a lot of a lot of sport

493
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: and maybe this has helped me to to do with

494
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 5: very well today.

495
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: What kind of a basketball player were you? What kind

496
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: of game?

497
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Did you have a big jump?

498
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I was really fast. I have a big jump.

499
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: I like to to smatch.

500
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: And hic Okay, yeah it was easy for me, a

501
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: really good jump.

502
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: And Luke, he loves to smash, and it was easy

503
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: for him. You got I think all of us look

504
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: up to that. Luke.

505
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: Listen. Who could be angry at a man who can

506
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: admit such uh, such escapades. But in all seriousness, he

507
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: is a incredible talent, and.

508
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: You think there's something to that. Luke the idea that

509
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: because he didn't grow up wanting to fight, he didn't

510
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: go to he didn't, you know, start training in a

511
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: gym in his teenage years, he's playing soccer and basketball

512
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: as a regular dude. That his footwork's a little different,

513
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, Hakei Malajuan grew up playing soccer. His footwork

514
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: as an NBA center was just completely different. That mixed

515
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: with what he said, look, I win, I lose, you

516
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: know whatever. I'm new to this game. It doesn't really matter.

517
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: All of that does make him, I guess, extra dangerous.

518
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: He's not coming in here with the typical pressures or

519
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: or the you know, the typical blueprint of your average heavyweight.

520
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that kind of stuff can absolutely matter.

521
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: It's a different kind of situation. But like you know,

522
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 2: I talk about him all the time, but Arlos Schwarzenegger

523
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: was famous in bodybuilding because he actually took ballet classes.

524
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: You can see this in Bumping Iron. And the reason

525
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: why I did it was so he could get more

526
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: artistic poses that he would never have learned in a gym.

527
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: You could talk to all the other bodybuilders in the world,

528
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: they would never have recommended the things that he got

529
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: from that, and he took that to the stage and

530
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: it really aided in his ability to win. And so

531
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: you know exactly what he got from those other sports,

532
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's clearly athletically gifted and just

533
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: his his understanding of and timing and range is second

534
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 2: to none, maybe in that entire division. It's very very good.

535
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: And so for me, the collision course with Francis is

536
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: really the big story beyond that because if he wins

537
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: against Derek, which you know, still a big if, but

538
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: if he wins against Derek, he sets up a meeting

539
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: which where you're gonna unify the titles, which we know

540
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: is kind of silly, but whatever, it's there. It's the

541
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: guy who used to train with his current coach, you know,

542
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: heavyweight champ versus sort of this new era. It's a

543
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: big deal. It's a big deal. If he wins for UFC,

544
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: We'll have to see what happens. I still want to

545
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: get to some of the ones on the card here

546
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: BC very quickly if we can. This co main event

547
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: Jose Aldo taking them on Pedro Muno's Aldo three losses

548
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 2: in a row. Some of those were tough, but he

549
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: was kind of you know, in them until he lost.

550
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: But then he rebounded against Cheeto Vera looked really good

551
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: in the process, and then you have Pedro Munoz also

552
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: sort of some backsliding, but I think he just beat

553
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: Jimmy Rivera, so he found himself in this All Brazil

554
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: Co main event. Biggest storyline to you.

555
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: I think that well, first of all, this storyline here

556
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: is this has a great chance to be your fight

557
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: of the night. It's a slug fest. Two guys at

558
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: this weight class, Luke from the same country. I looked

559
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: it up there. They're born two days apart the same year,

560
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: and they both operate in somewhat similar styles. They don't

561
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: take a step back. They're heavy counterpunchers and they're ready

562
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: to bang. I mean, that's gonna mean great theater for us.

563
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: But I think it's really good matchmaking between two top

564
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: ten guys. For the idea of if Aldo still who

565
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: he has looked to be so far at bandonmwaight, yeah,

566
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: he's only one and two. Sure, when he went up

567
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: to the payoder Yan level, he got served, but you know,

568
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: you could argue that he won against Mariahi know, very

569
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: good against Vera. I love this version of old Aldo.

570
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: There's a romanticized feeling around anytime you get a former

571
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: champion who's still going and still can give you the

572
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: big moment. I remember when he knocked out Jeremy Stevens,

573
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: and it just reminded us that he's not going anywhere.

574
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: He's still around. It just felt so good. I think

575
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: that spirit is still following him, although Luke, I don't.

576
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: I don't really know if Josi Aldo is done competing

577
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: at the title level. I think there's still a potential

578
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: running him. I know the division's jacked up, there's there's

579
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: a bottleneck on top, but he's got a huge name

580
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: in UFC loves plugging in huge names with title histories.

581
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: You know, Frankie Edgar lingered for a long time and

582
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: found his way into a few more title fights than

583
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: maybe you would have guessed after that original run. So

584
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: I think this is a winnable fight for Jose against

585
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: a guy who fights a lot like him in the

586
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: same style, only Jose's got a sneaky long reach opposite Munio.

587
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: So I think it's like seven inches where this is

588
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: a very winnable fight for him, Luke, even though there's

589
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: danger and I think it'll be high theater, but this

590
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: is a good piece of matchmaking. I'm into it a lot.

591
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's so it's really interesting to see

592
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: what has happened to jose Aldo since the Connor mcgregorfi

593
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: especially with the modern Connor, who, with every subsequent post

594
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: on social media appears to be losing it more and more.

595
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see what happened to you see Connor

596
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: with the blunt. That was a little much, Luke, It

597
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: was a little much broight.

598
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Was it a blunt or was it just just a cigar?

599
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell for you?

600
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: Like that? Good point? Good point? What was it an

601
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,120
Speaker 1: oversized joint? I don't know.

602
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: I know the way it burned, It burned unevenly and like, yeah,

603
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: that could have been a joint, but a lot of

604
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: times that's from regular's tobacco and a cigar, So I

605
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.

606
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: It looked a little like, Hey, everybody, look at me,

607
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm really cool. I'm smoking weed. Didn't it look like that?

608
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: I know we're all turning on him, but rightfully so

609
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: right now, Luke right.

610
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: A little bit. But what I would say is, since then,

611
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 2: it's not like Josie hasn't had a share of difficulties.

612
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 2: He's had, frankly a lot of losses. But you know,

613
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: you had to ask yourself here, what's he really going

614
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 2: to get with a win? Is he going to get

615
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: a title shot?

616
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 6: Like?

617
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: Not really, he's not really close to it. Certainly it

618
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: gets him a little bit closer, but you know, would

619
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: anyone really expect him to beat the very, very best

620
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: of this division? He had a chance against Peter Yan,

621
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: and Yan's extremely difficult to beat, but Yon, like beat

622
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: has head like a drum by the time that fight

623
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: was over. He's still out here doing it. He's still

624
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: out here really competing. He's still out here for the

625
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: love of it, dude. His longevity in the sport is remarkable,

626
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: and it's not without its blunders, it's not without its

627
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: its shortcomings, but that he can still be in a

628
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: fight where you're like, Wow, this is a cod main

629
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: event against a very good guy, probably top five, top

630
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: seven ish. If you get this, you're definitely gonna stay

631
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: in the top five after all these years competing after

632
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: so much, you know, fighting one tough guy after the other.

633
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: I have to say it is so commendable to see

634
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: him in this position. I don't know if he'll ever

635
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: look at another title shot ever again in his career,

636
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: and he probably has to recognize that too, But he's

637
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: still out there giving his all and in some cases winning.

638
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, Luke. Okay, let's

639
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: say he beats Munio's. Let me let me see where

640
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: where are the odds right now at the old Caesar

641
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: sports book. Luke very close minus one fifteen for all

642
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: though minus one oh five for Munios. So we're looking

643
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: at this two guys both thirty four as a as

644
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: a virtual pick him right. Let's say Aldo wins this,

645
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: do we have a bottleneck atop the division? Absolutely, It's

646
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna take some time. Dila Shaw's got next after al Jo,

647
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: But let's say to fill time. Then the UFC says,

648
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: all right, Jose Aldo, we'd love to put you back

649
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: in the main event.

650
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 6: Bro.

651
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: You want to fight dom Cruz, you want to fight Faber,

652
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: you want to fight Edgar, You want to fight somebody

653
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: where we can either make it a pay per view

654
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: comin or a big deal to draw tickets in Brazil.

655
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: Let's say he wins that too, Luke. If at that

656
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: point the division is sorted out just a bit, I

657
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: could very easily see the UFC plugging him in there

658
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: against the guy who's left standing. And I think you

659
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: know in your heart loop that they love doing that too.

660
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: I think you know that, yeah, they could do that.

661
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: I just mean the idea that he's gonna waltz into

662
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: another title shot and we all have to take it

663
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: very seriously. Of his ability to win, I feel like

664
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: that day is over, but that he could reasonably earn

665
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: a spot and you make a strong account of himself

666
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: that is very real and alive. But here's my point.

667
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: You see, like, are we even sure that's what he's

668
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: competing for? Like when he goes and does these interviews,

669
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: is he like, well, if I would and couldn't win

670
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: a title, I don't want to be in this anymore.

671
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't Maybe he says it in Portuguese. I don't

672
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: recall seeing an interview like that from him. I think

673
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: he wants to keep doing it because, yeah, there is

674
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: still a possibility of it, but he's still just good.

675
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: He still has an opportunity to fill out his contract

676
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: to I don't know, cross every t dot, every eye,

677
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: look under every rock that he can in his career

678
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: before he calls it a day. And you know, for

679
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: a guy who had I mean, when did he make

680
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: his pro debut, it's something insane. He made it in

681
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: let's see all the way back in August of twenty

682
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: of two thousand and four. You know, this will be

683
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: his thirty seventh fight. I mean, that's just an incredible

684
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: ability to be successful at this level for a long one.

685
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: Way, he's only thirty four, but that thirty four is

686
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: deceiving with the mileage. But Luke, the fact that he

687
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: went down in wait late in his career is the

688
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: key here because sometimes you will say, okay, those last

689
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: few fights at featherweight for him, you know, he put

690
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: it all out there against Max twice and got served.

691
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: And look, I think that against Volkanowski, he he lost

692
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: that chess match and was like, dude, I'm out of this.

693
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: It was last fight of the deal. I felt like

694
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: he was just sort of like, all right, whatever. If

695
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: he had moved up in weight from there, you could

696
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: almost go the narrative, Okay, now he doesn't have to

697
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, hurt himself as much. Maybe we'll see a

698
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: guy just have fun. No, Luke, he's going down in weight,

699
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: so every weight cut is even harder, which leads me

700
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to believe he has to be more mentally dialed. And

701
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he can just go through the motions

702
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: down in weight at this point in his career. Luke

703
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: right unless it's right.

704
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: And I was there when he uh, you know, when

705
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: he could barely make weight and fold it in the

706
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: fifth round against whatever round it was against Mark Cominik

707
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: at the GSP Shields fight. He had a terrible weight

708
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: cut and that was for one forty five to make

709
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: routinely one thirty five. To your point, is you know,

710
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: once more into the breach dear friends kind of territory.

711
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

712
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Also on this card, BC is the one that I

713
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: this might be my favorite fight on the main card, honestly,

714
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Michael Kisa taken on Vicente Luke. Michael Kiessa has had

715
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: a run at walterweight that I would describe as you

716
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: just can't ignore it. He currently sits at five, Vicente

717
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Luke at six. But this is what I love. Kiessa

718
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: is relative. Luke has had a lot more tests against

719
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: the better versions of this division. I think that's right.

720
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: I gotta go back a double check. But you know

721
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: he's come up short a little bit against some of

722
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: those names. But a guy like Kiessa, who had his

723
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: own issues at one fifty five with Wait, since coming

724
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: to one seventy has been just a bruiser. He simplified

725
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: his style to a pretty strong degree. He got a

726
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: lot bigger, he filled out, and he has been an

727
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: absolute force. WonderBoy just lost. He's sitting at four BC.

728
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: If Kiessa wins, does he fight Gilbert Burns? Does he

729
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: fight Leon Edwards? I don't think you get a title shot,

730
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: but you're pretty close at that point.

731
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: I think that if the storm is perfect, with an

732
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: impressive win, I actually think he could get a title shot.

733
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: So here's the deal, Luke, Okay, Covington next, Then you

734
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: got Leon Edwards, but you also have Gilbert Burns coming

735
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: off a win. I seriously could see the UFC going

736
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: to Leon Edwards and say, okay, here's your fights. We'll

737
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: offer you Jorge, we'll offer you Gilbert. Which one you taken?

738
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: And in that time, let's say Kisa just wins on

739
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: Saturday and looks fantastic. He's the only guy of that

740
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: group who has in faught Usman and is coming off

741
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: a win.

742
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Luke.

743
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: That's why I think there's something a little bit extra

744
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: special there, Okay, where it could be a good time filler.

745
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Because we've got Ousma coming off of big money rematches

746
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: against Masvidal and now Covington. You're gonna want, you know,

747
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: the fan audience is gonna want something new. I think

748
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: there's an opening. He's been a company man, he's an announcer,

749
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's a great style matchup right now. Luke,

750
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: He's a he's a he's a sly underdog here. By

751
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: the way, if you look at the odds, we've got

752
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: plus one hundred Kisa minus one twenty Luke. Luke has

753
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: won ten of eleven. Luke, He's looks fantastic. But I

754
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: still think Kisa, on paper, is the more skilled fighter,

755
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: and I think their styles are gonna contrast really well

756
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: in that cage. Don't discount Mike the mav if he

757
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: can go out there and pull a spectacular submission for

758
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: having a great shot at the next at the next

759
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: title show. I'm telling you, Luke, I'm telling you, Okay.

760
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean since what year is this? So since

761
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Luka has only lost twice, once to Leon

762
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: Edwards via the decision and wants to Stephen Thompson via decision.

763
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: But that's it. He's got wins over Woodley Brown, Nico Price,

764
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: Mike Perry, Derek Krantz, Barberina, Jalen Turner, Chad Laprez, Nico

765
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: Price again, Balal Mohammed, Hector Urbina, Alvaro Herrera, Hyder Hassan

766
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: and so on. Right, just an absolute transformation of his career.

767
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: But when he stepped up to the you know, that

768
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: next level, he's fallen short. We have not necessarily seen

769
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: that from Kisa only because he has not really put

770
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: himself in a position to get those fights. Yes, this

771
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: is the first of it. What do you think the UFC,

772
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: what do you think they would want out of this bout?

773
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: What are they looking for?

774
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: You know? In some cases it's like, let's not discount Luk.

775
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: He's got such a fan friendly style that it would

776
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: be fun to see him against Gooseman. But I've got

777
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of questions Luca, because of those two losses

778
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: when he did step up, how good Luka actually is?

779
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: Like he's exciting as all hell, but he does run

780
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: into oncoming traffic. It works against a certain ability level. Now,

781
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: look these styles trust well where I think Luk has

782
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: a great chance to win this fight. That's why he's

783
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: the betting favorite at the moment. But I do question

784
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: above that. I wonder if, because Mike Kisa brings a

785
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: very interesting cryptonotic style here with his submission game, what

786
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: that fight could look like against Usmar are you intrigued

787
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: by that or Like, basically, here's what I'm asking you, Luke,

788
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: do you think Usman has an easier chance on paper

789
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: against Luk or Kisa? I think Kis is the tougher

790
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: fight because of his groundability.

791
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: Ummm probably. But the only issue for this entire division

792
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: is I don't think any of them are gonna out

793
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Usman Usman. That's really the problem.

794
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: And neither guy sells a ton either to be fair.

795
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, but you know, I mean, we'll see how

796
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: he looks. Let's see how he looks, you know, on Saturday,

797
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: either guy. If either guy goes up there and just

798
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: looks like they've leveled up, and you know Usman has

799
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: a bad day, anything is possible. I just feel like

800
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: as a strategy, you're gonna have to be able to

801
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: play all the levels. It's like you have to combine

802
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: Luke and Kisa to get something really different rather than

803
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: one or the other to beat usman, But you know what,

804
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: is it?

805
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: All my scenarios Lee end with Leon Edwards not getting

806
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: rewarded for his win streak. Luke, I mean, could it

807
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: still happen where he somehow does he get the titles?

808
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Shout out yes, yes, there are big fights that could

809
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: be made with him, dude. But you know as well

810
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: as I do, man, the amount of like, if your

811
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: whole case is, oh, you've been winning for so long

812
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: that you should be rewarded for that. If that's the

813
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: entirety of your case, your case is not as strong

814
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: as you think it is. Jeff Fitch, I've seen them

815
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: a million guys.

816
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: So do you think the Edwards win over Diaz in

817
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: the eyes of UFC and title marketing is a loss?

818
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: No? I don't think they look at it that way.

819
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean because he got dominated for twenty four and

820
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: a half minutes. What I do think though, is that

821
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: like he didn't put Diaz away, which okay, Diaz is

822
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: hard to put away, but you know, when you're winning

823
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: for that long and you can't put them away, that's

824
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: a little strange. And you know, look, is there a

825
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: giant who's the biggest audience in combat sports? It's the

826
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: casual fan. Is there a big casual fan push to

827
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: get Edwards into the fights that his resume calls for.

828
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: There is none. It doesn't exist. And you can like

829
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: that factor, you can hate that fact. I don't either side.

830
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: You can do what you want with it. But that's

831
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: just the way the business is run. And again, he

832
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: doesn't pull that lever, so you had to recite on

833
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: the resume. The resume is strong, but it's not. It

834
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 2: doesn't it does wow you. The individual performances don't come

835
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: with you know, these dramatic finishes and these punctuated moments

836
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: of total excellence. It's just consistent excellence minute over minute.

837
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: That's a little harder for the average fan to appreciate.

838
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: And to be fair, it's not fair. It's not meritocritus.

839
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: Is that a word.

840
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's worth meritocratic meritocratic.

841
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: But by the way, Leon Edwards did by his mother

842
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: a car and that video was heartwarming to see, so

843
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: shout out to missus Rocky and the crew there. Okay,

844
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: thank you.

845
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to some announcements if we can.

846
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: BC topic number two here, we've got one, two, three, four,

847
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: five different announcements, some bigger, some smaller. I actually had

848
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: a little birdie in my ear about one of them.

849
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: I might break some news here.

850
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Wow, So well, let me get out of the way, Luke,

851
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: go ahead.

852
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: The first one is for Max Holloway versus Jeer Rodriguez

853
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: for November thirteenth main event. So here is my understanding.

854
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: My understanding is that a Max Holloway is still injured

855
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: and has not been cleared. Not that they I'm told

856
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: that they still may want the fight, maybe even on

857
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: that date if it's possible, but that he is still

858
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: injured and still hasn't been cleared, and they woke up

859
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: him and his team to the news that the November

860
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: thirteenth fight had been announced. They had not even been

861
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: told that was coming, So that one just came completely

862
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. UFC sometimes does this where they announced

863
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: stuff a little bit before the teams have decided they

864
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: are going to sign off on it. It's not uncommon,

865
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: it's not new that's fair it this is a bit

866
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: of a pressure move. With that in mind, BC, what

867
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: do you make of it?

868
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: Imasine, if our bosses came to us been like, Luke,

869
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: you're traveling out of the country for the next few weeks. Okay,

870
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: it is what it is, bro deal with it. You're like, well,

871
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I got a vacation plan, all right, yeah yeah, Uh, Luke,

872
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this. I want

873
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: to see this fight. It's it's it's necessary because Yaya

874
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: has been on a great run. The promises violence. I

875
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: don't really have much of a reaction here, Luke, based

876
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: on the uh, the the added layer of your news.

877
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: But uh, I hope Max is healthy because I got

878
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: to see him fight for the title again. Luke.

879
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm told he's on the mend. It's just that,

880
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: you know, again, my understanding is that they weren't consulted

881
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: that actually UFC did know what their expectation was for

882
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: a return. It's kind of like what we're dealing with

883
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: with Francis France is like, Okay, I'm back now, I

884
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: can make a return on such and such a date,

885
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: and they they kind of skipped over him. But in

886
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: this case, they just went ahead and said, oh, yeah,

887
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna be fighting ya ear on a timeline that

888
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: we haven't really actually sat down and formally discussed with you.

889
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: So he's what I would say, Holloway versus Rodriguez as

890
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: it was announced, could still happen. I would caution everyone

891
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: that it is absolutely far from certain, totally far from certain.

892
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll see what happens there, Luke.

893
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Fantastic fight. You're gonna go maybe go to the middleweight

894
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: division now, Luke, because I'm ready for.

895
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: This, let's do it. Yeah, I'll give you first reaction.

896
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: Paulo Costa versus Marvin Vatory expected for October twenty third BC.

897
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

898
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I mean people are really really upset

899
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: that I go to the Jake Hager line so often, Luke,

900
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: So I won't. I won't go to it this time.

901
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: I won't.

902
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I won't bring up my phoner. But this is perfect

903
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: both guys coming off with title defeat. Look, Paulo Costa

904
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: has a lot of explaining to do, Luke about who

905
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: he is, the whole wine experience, the whole whining that

906
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: he's done since that lost out of Sonia. What happened

907
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: with the hair transplant? Did you see that? Luke? What

908
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: the hell were those pictures? Do you know what I'm

909
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: talking about?

910
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: People were tweeting me about it. I have no idea.

911
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: I don't follow a lot of fighters on social media,

912
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: so I don't know.

913
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's apparently he's not only the hair club president, Luke,

914
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: he's also a client. But look, this fight is explosive

915
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: and I think it's won, by the way, despite the

916
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: fact that Vittori has looked great. I mean, he worked

917
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: himself into a title shot that Paula Costa can and

918
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: should win Luke. So it's a bit of a referendum

919
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: on a very elite guy who hasn't done a whole

920
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: hell of a lot of good stuff for his career

921
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: of late. But it could put him right back into

922
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: the mix and Luke he needs it. He needs a

923
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: big explosion and inventorI, he's gonna have a guy who's

924
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: going to come forward on him. But it's also a

925
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: guy who could take him down to give him some

926
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: problems to Luke. So that's why I think you love

927
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: this fight. What is the targeted for October twenty third, Yes,

928
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: please do it. Now, yes, thank you.

929
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I basically echo everything you're saying. You talk about

930
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: a guy in Costa who has a lot to prove

931
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: an inventory has proven a lot, but also proven that

932
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: there are some limits still twenty seven to almost twenty

933
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: eight years old, those are still very much not permanent.

934
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: They're not he could overcome them. But you know, a

935
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: guy like Costa, if he can fight the way he

936
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: has been fighting last fight notwithstanding, that should be a

937
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: really tough test for either guy, should be very exciting.

938
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Look just this often I don't. I don't go on

939
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: UFC Fight Pass and look at my search history, not

940
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: because it's got bang bust type things on it, like

941
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: your Internet search history. But I would guarantee you though,

942
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: if you ask me, what are the what are the

943
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: three fights you've watched the most on UFC Fight Pass

944
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: and your history of owning it and just you know,

945
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: putting a few drinks down at night alone and watching it. God,

946
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: good God, Luke, Costa versus Romero has to be has

947
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: to be like number two on that list. I mean,

948
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: I watched that fight every two months without randomly, without

949
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: without fail. Luke, that fight rules.

950
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: It does, it rules, It's it's very fun. It's really fun.

951
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was all sad for you.

952
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really that's okay, all right. Islam Makachev taking

953
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: on haf Al Dosanto set for UFC two sixty seven.

954
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: This will be on October thirtieth. This one had been

955
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: telegraphed to BC. Should be really good. It's a good

956
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: test for Markatchev. Still lacking in some of the bigger names.

957
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: I'd like to see him fight, but I guess the

958
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: idea is you beat dosan Jos and at that point

959
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: those are the only names you're gonna get offered.

960
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is the perfect fight in

961
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: the life cycle of a division, A young fighter against

962
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: an old fighter sort of excuse me, hanging on to

963
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: prove that he still got it, that he's still a contender.

964
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: And let's see what is our DA right now? Thirty six.

965
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: He did beat Paul Felder in that fight last November,

966
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: but had two had lost four or five before that.

967
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: It feels like a fight Islam should win if he

968
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: is that guy. So that's why you're booking at Luke.

969
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I wonder though, does that take our DA out of

970
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: any comebacking Connor talk, because I know Luky, we always

971
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: in effinly it always ends up back on Connor. But

972
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: I think you saw that premeditated art sport tweet or

973
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: premeditated maybe the wrong word, preemptive one about some wheelchair

974
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: fight against a comedian that isn't happening. And then did

975
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: you see Connor's subsequent tweet saying, you know, hey, guys

976
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: won't be able to fight by them, but I'm healthy.

977
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a comeback for October. He doesn't

978
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: mean UFC comeback for October, rights too.

979
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: That's way too soon, it seems virtually. I'm not a doctor.

980
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: That sounds crazy, but yeah, I mean from his a

981
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: cl injury, he fought eleven months after getting it, so

982
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: he sustained it, healed from it, trained for his next fight,

983
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: all within eleven months. That's very fast, all right.

984
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: I'll give him that interesting seeing him box Al Farran

985
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: the comedian in a in a wheelchair. Luke, you have

986
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: any interesting?

987
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: Fuck? I mean, it's hard to think of a thing

988
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: I could give a fuck less about. Okay, I'll just

989
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: say this with even if dos Angos loses, does he

990
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: get removed from the Connor sweepstakes? Not? Not necessarily I mean,

991
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: you had Cerroni going on that fight on want three

992
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: losses consecutively. If it's the right kind of fight and

993
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: they can kind of make it work, I don't. I

994
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: don't think he's out of the running at all.

995
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: All right, Like you're like, actually, if he loses, he

996
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: might get a better shot at it.

997
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Just some dude in some ways, he honestly might. It depends.

998
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you get if you get stretched, I

999
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: don't know. But if it's competitive and you lose, me, okay,

1000
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: Cody garbre this is interesting to me. Cody Garbrandt taken

1001
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: on kay Kara France. You know, I'll be like, wait

1002
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: a second, one's bantamweight, woods featherweight, right, Cody's making his flyweight,

1003
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: not for other wayscuse me fly weight. Cody's making his

1004
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: flyweight debut December eleventh, BC. I gotta say Cody Garbrett

1005
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: needs a refresh. I don't know if one twenty five

1006
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: is that refresh, but it could be. And they gave

1007
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: him a tough test for his first time out.

1008
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I didn't like even before the loss to

1009
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Rob thont Luke, I didn't like that that the talk

1010
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: was just Cody's gonna, you know, parachute into the one

1011
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: twenty five division and get an instant title shot. I

1012
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: don't like when that happens unless somebody is of extreme

1013
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: superstar level. And you know, Cody obviously a former champion.

1014
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: It's not that he's a nobody, but this is a

1015
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: much better path. I know. The loss to Rob font

1016
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: did seem to to make him force him to get

1017
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: to make that decision to really commit to this and

1018
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: do this. KK Flew has already been on Submission Radio

1019
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: saying essentially that you know, be careful, be careful what

1020
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: you ask for here, because because of that weight cut,

1021
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: the punches that you accumulate at one twenty five are

1022
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: gonna feel a lot different than at one thirty five

1023
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: and have more damage. Luke, I think you know, you

1024
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: can look as far as cody rival TJ. Dillashaw to

1025
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: see that to be true. Cody's got a lot of

1026
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: questions to answer, Luke. You don't usually see a guy

1027
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: with potential chin issues then cut down in weight, which

1028
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: could be a dangerous, you know, or difficult cut, and

1029
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: see those chin issues improve. Now. Also, when you cut

1030
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: down in wait, your power tends to carry more, so

1031
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: you know it could be part of the advantage thinking here.

1032
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: Either way, it's going to be high theater to see

1033
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: somebody with this pedigree, a former champion who look great

1034
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: in his initial comeback. Good God, that one punch ko

1035
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: of a sunstyle was incredible. I want to see what

1036
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: he still has. Car France seems to be, you know,

1037
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: a perfect test, a guy who's near elite, who seems

1038
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: to be ready himself to jump in that top five.

1039
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: This is good matchmaking, Luke. I'm looking forward to it.

1040
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: And quick question, Luke, because I'm big fans of those

1041
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: guys down there, Casper and the other fella. Do you

1042
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: think that they are the Australian MK or do you

1043
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: think it's inverse?

1044
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: What would be the inverse?

1045
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: We are the uh the Yankee submit submission Radio.

1046
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: Probably that they were first. You gotta give him credit.

1047
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: They were first. So you know, I love those guys.

1048
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, I like the fight you see, Because you're right,

1049
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: Cody had good power at one thirty five. He should

1050
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: have really good power one twenty five, assuming all things

1051
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 2: are reasonably within order. But the thing about it is

1052
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: like he had a major speed advantage at one thirty

1053
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: five too. He's very explosive. Now, I don't think he's

1054
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: going to be slow at one twenty five, but I

1055
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: gotta say curious to see how that goes. And you know,

1056
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: for a guy who got jabbed a little bit a

1057
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 2: lot actually against Rob Font, kay car France isn't necessarily

1058
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: that guy. But he does have a good jab He's

1059
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: not as rangy as Rob Font. Okay, he's down a

1060
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: weight class and has a different body type. But a

1061
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: lot of those guys that fly weight, they're sticking move types.

1062
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: They have different ways of setting it up and executing it.

1063
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Kay car France has very good footwork. He's fast, he's

1064
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: got fluid combinations. He can wrestle a little bit defensively.

1065
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: He can scramble pretty well too. That's a tough I mean,

1066
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: if people think that, like, oh, Cody's gonna go down

1067
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: to one twenty five, we're just gonna give him somebody

1068
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: who he can easily beat. Dude, ky car France ain't

1069
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: that guy. He ain't that guy at all. In fact,

1070
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: I would probably favor him to win this one. I

1071
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: guess we see more about Cody, but it's to me

1072
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: it's exciting because I can imagine a series of scenarios

1073
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: where he comes out and actually can get things going

1074
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: on the right track again. However, I can also imagine,

1075
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: maybe not in an equal form, but in some ways

1076
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 2: I have to take seriously the possibility that like this

1077
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: is not a fix to anything, that there isn't really one,

1078
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: and there's no magical weight class where things all of

1079
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: a sudden just get better. Some of the issues you

1080
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: may move away from, but you may encounter a whole

1081
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: series of new ones. Whenever someone goes down like this man,

1082
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: I am always curious to see can they pull it off?

1083
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: This is big, big stakes for a guy who went

1084
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: from unranked to champion in a single four fight stretch,

1085
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: so huge doings with that. And then, last but not

1086
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: least for belt or BC, I will candidly admit I

1087
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: forgot this guy's on the roster, and not that I

1088
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: forgot who he was, but I forgot Beltor even had him.

1089
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: Vitalitia Minikoff is going to take on Tyrell Fortune for

1090
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: Beltore Moscow. This is the card that Fador is going

1091
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: to be retiring on, supposedly back in Moscow. We don't

1092
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: have an opponent for him just yet. Josh Barnett has

1093
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: been lobbying for it. It seems like a decent enough choice,

1094
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 2: all things being equal, But we have Minnikoff here taking

1095
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 2: on fortune Minnikoff. For a while, BC was kind of

1096
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: like the next big thing at heavyweight, and then this

1097
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: sort of quietly has sat on the sidelines or he

1098
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: took fights, you know with I remember he fought on

1099
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: fight Pass for some like fight Night's Global card or

1100
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: something like that. I don't know where he is anymore,

1101
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: but it's a decent test, I guess for both guys.

1102
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Menikoff, as I look at his wiki, is still

1103
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: just thirty six, Luke, and twenty two to one is

1104
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: his record. We saw him lose to Chi Congo in

1105
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but he came back and knocked out Timothy

1106
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Johnson later that year. So he still hasn't shown us,

1107
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: Luke that he's done. Now, what was the whole deal about.

1108
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: I know he had to give up the belt or

1109
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: heavyweight title due to inactivity, and if you look at

1110
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: his ledger, he didn't fight at all between twenty seventeen

1111
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen. But you know, this was a guy

1112
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: who I think still has a shot at being something.

1113
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: And you know, in the Belcher heavyweight division has got

1114
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: some life right now. With Bader having moved up and

1115
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 1: won the title. I still think rumbled despite what he says,

1116
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: we'll end up there. This will be an interesting test

1117
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: because I think Fortune has shown us that he can punch,

1118
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: that we know he can wrestle. He is an interesting player.

1119
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: Fortune still wanted that Johnson rematch from his only loss,

1120
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: but this seems to be an even bigger fight on

1121
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: an even bigger platform. So interesting bit of matchmaking here

1122
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: that I'm certainly not against. And Luke you mentioned is

1123
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: this being billed us Fador's retirement about Is that true?

1124
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: I believe so, I mean it should be.

1125
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm not gonna believe it until I see it,

1126
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to get to the point where it's

1127
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: like I need to see who he's gonna fight. I

1128
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: don't think Josh Burnett would move me. Luke, I'm not

1129
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: moved by that.

1130
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I don't have I'm neither positive

1131
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: nor negative about it. Like to me, Fader should have

1132
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: retired years ago. He should not. Still, he should have

1133
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 2: retired after the god who was the guy who got

1134
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: who bounced his head off the canvas, who later was

1135
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: like the Brazilian kind of Bigfoot. No, no, no, no,

1136
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: the other guy, I forget.

1137
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: His name, Oh, Fabio Maldonado.

1138
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: Fabi Ol Baldinada. I mean that was such a terrible

1139
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: beating fight. He should not have won. It was a

1140
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: total worst decision.

1141
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was really bad, Luke.

1142
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: Really he should have called it a day after that. So, like,

1143
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: who are they gonna pick? Like, I mean, you know,

1144
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. UH needs to be somebody of a

1145
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 2: commensurate age and kind of experience level, which is why,

1146
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 2: you know, Barnett has been doing this for a long time.

1147
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: He kind of fits that description. But of course they

1148
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: were with them with the affliction thing and the whole okay,

1149
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 2: you know, with a positive test.

1150
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, I like weird shit. You know, I've already

1151
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: told you the Fador fight to make is Anderson Silva.

1152
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: And look, I still think at this point, if you're

1153
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: gonna still promote Fador, you gotta put them in there

1154
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: with smaller guys. Remember how much fun that Dan Henderson

1155
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: fight was against Fador. They did it that that catch

1156
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: weight of like two fifteen. Henderson, who of course has

1157
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: had some big moments of light have youweight, but these

1158
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: are middleweight, so this was a smaller guy with big

1159
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: power moving up. Dude, those are the type of fights

1160
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: to make right now for Fador and Luke. We remember

1161
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: Uncle Scott Coker and the Strikeforce days did go to

1162
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: big CBS and did like insane, stupid, absurd ratings in

1163
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: the past, and one time he used Fador and I

1164
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: don't have the number in front of me, wasn't like

1165
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: between six and seven million live viewers. I do understand

1166
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: that was pre streaming a different time and day, but

1167
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: you were telling me they couldn't take Fador and Andy

1168
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Silva and put it on big CBS as like a

1169
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: old guy in nostalgic super Bowl. Dude, I'm telling you

1170
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: that's the way to go. Don't go any other row.

1171
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: If you are Anderson Silva and you can just box

1172
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: logan Paul versus having to fight Fade or in an

1173
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: MMA fight, and you'll get double triple ten times the

1174
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: amount of fucking money, what would you do? Do you

1175
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean? This is an easy call if.

1176
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: You're okay, But is there anybody else in the silver

1177
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: mold who is old and a and a division or

1178
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: too smaller that you would be down with that same

1179
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: level of gas station curiosity that I'm into. Luke gotta

1180
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: get creative at this point.

1181
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that

1182
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: would have been.

1183
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him against the cushat. I

1184
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: don't want to see him against Jeff Monson. Right, come on, like,

1185
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: can we can we have fun here? Can we can

1186
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: we do something fun?

1187
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Could you pull? I mean, god, I wouldn't want to

1188
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: see no gear out there anymore. Yeah, I don't know, dude,

1189
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's why Barnett are He's

1190
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: still kind of fresh, you know. I don't know. It's

1191
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: it's it's it's not so easy to solve the problem.

1192
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: But there you have it. Okay, So we go to

1193
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: topic number three. Aj McKee to me BC, I want

1194
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: to read its a quote from Dana White. He spoke

1195
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: to our friend of the show, Aaron Bronstetter. I think

1196
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: it was Aaron bron Setter. Maybe it was somebody else,

1197
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: but I think it was him. And he said when

1198
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: he was asked about aj McKee, how would he do

1199
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: against UFC fighters, Dana White said the following quote, I

1200
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: don't know. We'll see when his contract is up, he'll

1201
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: have to call. Yeah, right, he'll have to call. We'll

1202
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 2: see what we can do. Now here's what folks may

1203
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: not appreciate. That sounds b C. Like a very dismissive,

1204
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: at best, tepid comment.

1205
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound to me.

1206
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: Well, he said, hold on, hold on, let me finish

1207
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: the point, which is, when his contract is up, he'll

1208
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: have to call. That's passive aggressive. But but b C,

1209
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: for the love of God, let me finish. I was

1210
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: just going to make that point, which is which is,

1211
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: if you know Dana White from all the years, anytime

1212
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: someone has asked him about ex fighter from another organization,

1213
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: he has gone out of his way to completely shit

1214
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: on them and dismiss them and take them not seriously

1215
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: at all. The fact that he even got this luke

1216
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: warm with it, it is the biggest tell of all

1217
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 2: true or false. True. True.

1218
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: And I did interrupt you, and people get very angry,

1219
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Luke when I don't let you have your say. But

1220
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: you got to understand the ferocity inside of me. It

1221
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: can't be held back.

1222
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: Luke.

1223
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: This is like a win in that regard. I mean,

1224
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: what do we win? You win nothing? But this is

1225
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: like real recognizing real Dana, a real promoter, recognizing a

1226
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: real potential superstar. I think the bigger story beyond even

1227
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: Dana's comments. And in a lot of ways, this is

1228
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: completely unfair to Bellatour and Scott Coker and everyone show

1229
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Time because AJ just had the biggest win of his career, Like,

1230
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: let's see him defend it, Let's see him go to

1231
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: lightweight and try to take you know, Pitbull's Bell And

1232
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 1: now we're already talking about it, but it's also AJ

1233
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: talking about it, Luke, I think the story. Here are

1234
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: AJ's comments to your friend Mike Bher over there at

1235
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: m A junkie I didn't excel.

1236
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: I'll read those now. So here's what he says, quote

1237
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: six months, six years, doesn't matter when I get to

1238
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: the UFC McKee said, quote At the end of the day,

1239
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 2: as long as I'm cashing in big, I'm okay, I'm happy.

1240
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm satisfied. As long as I'm able to do the

1241
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: things I want to do and create new openings, new opportunities,

1242
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: new companies. The second all that hard work pays off,

1243
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: that's when I can say, Okay, what more is there

1244
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: for me to do? But at that point, the fruits

1245
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: of the labor already be enjoyed so much. What need

1246
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: is there to do that? There's really no rush. This

1247
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: is just the beginning. That's the crazy part. This is

1248
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 2: the first world title and I haven't even defended it yet.

1249
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking to get that second world title. That's what

1250
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: I've been calling Champ Champ.

1251
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: In that same interview, he also had this quote Luke,

1252
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: which was the headline of the story. So credit Mike

1253
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: Bohen for putting together a good piece there of quote.

1254
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I want Bellatore to show me what my value really is.

1255
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: So look, this was AJ putting it out there to

1256
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: bellatour Brass and company, basically saying like, you know, I

1257
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: know that what I just did was huge. I know

1258
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: I did it under your banner, and I've done it

1259
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: the whole time here. But you know, not only pay me,

1260
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: but I'll delay this, right, I'll you know, I have

1261
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: no need to leave is long as I am getting

1262
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: comfortably paid. But it's an early sort of threat put

1263
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: out there, right. It's a little bit of the putting

1264
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: the chips up a little bit and just saying like

1265
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: acknowledging that there is somewhere else I could go that

1266
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: people want me to go that. You know, he did

1267
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: say in the interview. Inevitably, I do see myself there.

1268
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: It's just the whole question of do I see it

1269
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: in six months or six years. It's dependent upon how

1270
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: well they not only pay him, Luke, but I think

1271
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: present him, and also the challenges they give him. So look,

1272
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: this this will be a challenge, I think a positive

1273
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: one that you welcome if you're Skotchoker, right, because if

1274
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna build up somebody who in your own under

1275
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: your own banner, who is this potentially marketable and elite,

1276
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: you want him to get to this level where other

1277
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: companies are gonna want him, or other fans are gonna

1278
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 1: want to see him in those other companies. It's now

1279
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: what do you do to keep him? Would you say

1280
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: in the past, Luke, and look, your value is only

1281
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: as good as your last fight. And that's true in

1282
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: this game. Meaning if aj mcke goes is out there

1283
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: tomorrow in his first title defense and either loses or

1284
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: is boring and flat, it's going to change the for

1285
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 1: that moment. That's how this game works. But you would

1286
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: say in the past, Luke, whether we're talking about Eddie

1287
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: Alvarez or Michael Chandler, who did both end up leaving

1288
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: Belator and went on to big success in the UFC

1289
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: that I think there was some like underlying thing of Okay,

1290
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: they could go over there and be competitive, but could

1291
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: they be real UFC champions? Are they really on that level?

1292
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: I think there was questions. I think there's less questions

1293
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: with McKee, and that's why Dana isn't dismissing like he

1294
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: did Askrin or whatever back in the day. This is

1295
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: a challenge for Scott and Company and I'm going to

1296
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: be very interested to see the creativity they're going to show,

1297
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: whether it does involve boxing or big CBS like he

1298
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: mentioned or whatever, because I think this is what you want,

1299
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: right You want somebody that the world wants because that

1300
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: draws him back to your brand.

1301
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: I think that the lessons of Michael Chandler are going

1302
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: to be really important for Belator here to keep this

1303
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: guy in any capacity long term, Like could they keep

1304
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 2: him forever? I don't know, you know, strange things happen

1305
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: in MMA, but Michael Chandler made a quote once he

1306
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: got to UFC that there was one time I think

1307
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: he was even Bellator champion at the time, and he

1308
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: was rolling with his friends fellow fighters in the UFC

1309
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: at some either event or someplace, and the story is this,

1310
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: a person came up and asked for pictures of the

1311
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: UFC fighter and asked Michael Chandler to take the picture,

1312
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: not even realizing that a he was teammates with these

1313
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: guys and just as good, if not better than them,

1314
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: and also a champion in another organization like he essentially

1315
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: sort of pointed out that, like, the UFC popularity machine

1316
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: is so big that even though I've done all these

1317
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: incredible things elsewhere, the average MMA fan doesn't even know.

1318
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: They can't even pick me out of a lineup. I

1319
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: think if you're Bellatore and you just look at what

1320
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: kind of ratings your events draw and what kind of

1321
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: shadow you can cast, you have to keep your core

1322
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: product what it is. But if you want to keep

1323
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: a guy like aj McKee, you have to go beyond

1324
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: your core product. I think you got to put that

1325
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: guy on CBS pay per view. I don't know, but

1326
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 2: you got to put that guy maybe in boxing fights

1327
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: if you can get it. You have to do the

1328
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: kinds of things that draw commensurate levels of popularity and

1329
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: earnings or even beyond them with what UFC draws. Otherwise,

1330
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: they will always have that advantage over you. Now, whether

1331
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 2: they can do that, whether they will do that, how

1332
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 2: will they do that? Time will tell. He's twenty six,

1333
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: he's eight years the junior of Michael Chandler. Everyone's got

1334
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: time to figure this out. But Michael Chandler, I remember distinctly,

1335
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: was calling for like fights at one seventy and I

1336
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: want to do this crazy thing, and I want to

1337
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: do that crazy thing, and Beltor was kind of like, Eh,

1338
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: we'll try and give you the best we can. But

1339
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 2: know I don't think you can do that with aj

1340
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: I think you've got to give him a lot of

1341
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: different opportunities and see what happens.

1342
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting stuff. I asked you this question briefly on

1343
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: our post show Saturday night, but I think it's interesting

1344
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: to reask it right now, Luke, being that Beltore now

1345
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: has a fighter legitimately in the argument, look with Nemkov

1346
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: two as late heavyweight champion, where you're basically saying, I

1347
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,479
Speaker 1: feel like this guy could be top five in the world.

1348
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: But I think with McKee and with Pitbull before you

1349
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: could say, you know, is he the best, by the

1350
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: way in the world. Now, we're never gonna know unless

1351
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: they fight each other, but you want to be able

1352
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: to have that argument, and they have it right now.

1353
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: Will that alone attract free agents who are closer to

1354
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: their prime, whether it's UFC or anywhere else, because they

1355
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: just want to be in the same organization with this

1356
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: guy and have a chance to fight them. Or do

1357
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: you think that's pushing it a little bit too far.

1358
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: I think that's pushing it, but I do. This is

1359
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: the one thing I keep going back to. It's like,

1360
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: if you're somebody who works at a big camp, whether

1361
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: you're someone's dad or not, but you're at a big camp,

1362
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: you're a coach at a big camp, and you're trying

1363
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: to get someone some experience, but also you know they're

1364
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: special and you know they're gonna do big things. You

1365
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: can put them in Bellator right away and they can

1366
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: get all of the regional experience they need in Belator,

1367
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: and then when they're ready to graduate to like high

1368
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: level regional or even like you know, top twenty five

1369
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: in the weight class, Bellator can offer some names there

1370
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 2: as well, and then even you know, beyond that, maybe

1371
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: some top ten top fives depending on the division. Like,

1372
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: you have a real opportunity for everything to happen under

1373
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: one umbrella that you can watch. You can get all

1374
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: the levels and it sets them up whether they want

1375
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 2: to leave to go somewhere else, or they can stay

1376
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: and then make concessions from belots or It's a powerful thing, man,

1377
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: because a lot of other promoters. You know, what kind

1378
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: of coverage are you getting? You know, as anyone even

1379
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: looking at it, you know, are you gonna get paid

1380
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: on time? There's a lot of things that Belt or

1381
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: can do for an elite blue chip prospect that literally

1382
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: no other organization can do. You go, you gotta milk

1383
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 2: that for what it's worth.

1384
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: So yes, I think if you're Scott Company, you got

1385
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: to lean into that. What do we offer that the

1386
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: other brands don't? You know?

1387
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: That's right? Flexibility has got to be the number one

1388
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: thing for sure. All right, So let's talk about this BC.

1389
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: They put up the cards Showtime did for the Jake

1390
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: Paul versus Tyron Woodley fight, so we know that's the

1391
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: eight round cruiserweight bout that's going to be your main event.

1392
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: We also knew about the WBC and WO featherweight World

1393
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: Championship between Serrano and Mercado, the women's bout they were

1394
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: at the press conference together the other ones that got announced,

1395
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: and I wonder if you had any reaction to any

1396
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: of these. We have a ten round heavyweight foul about

1397
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: excuse me, between Daniel Dubois and Joe Kusumano. I'm not

1398
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: gonna pretend that I know a lot about this gentleman.

1399
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: A ten round junior welterweight bout between Ivan Branchick, who

1400
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: we know a lot about, and Montana Love. And then

1401
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: a six round cruiserweight bout between the brother of Tyson Fury,

1402
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury, who I guess was also on Love Island

1403
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: in the UK, versus Anthony Taylor. What do you know

1404
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: about these guys?

1405
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: Look, this is there's some fun matchmaking here. This obviously

1406
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: goes down on August twenty ninth, a Sunday night show

1407
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: time pay per view from Cleveland and a five fight

1408
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: pay per view main card, which is interesting onto itself.

1409
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: But look, Daniel Dubois was in that young heavyweight contender

1410
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 1: fight there against Joe Joyce. That's his only pro loss.

1411
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: He's bounced backed and knocked out Bogden den U so

1412
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: he's looking to climb back into the heavyweight title contention

1413
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: there he'll be featured on here. Tommy Fury is a potential,

1414
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: like legit crossover celebrity here. That's interesting, Luke, that he's

1415
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: continuing down the boxing path because he had made his

1416
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: name in reality TV. Luke, I want to say trashy

1417
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: reality TV, but I don't even watch UK Love Island

1418
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: or any country's version of that. But here is the

1419
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: half brother of Tyson Fury, a cousin, of course of

1420
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: VUICK contender Huey Fury, and he's trying down this path.

1421
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: He's fighting a guy with some M M A and

1422
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: belator experience who's won five in a row on the

1423
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: MMA side, but is also boxing to a certain level

1424
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: commensurate to the ability level of a rising Tommy Fury.

1425
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: To see what he has here. Ivan Baranchick, Luke, that

1426
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: he was in the Fight of the Year last year.

1427
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: You remember all those knockdowns, all those ridiculous things that

1428
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: we saw in that. Look who's the guy that he fought.

1429
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: Who that Baranchick was in the Fight of the Year left.

1430
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: With with I just had it up.

1431
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: It was Jose Zeda, which was an absolute brawl. Baranchick's

1432
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,479
Speaker 1: a former world champion, He's never in a bad fight.

1433
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: Fun he's up there against Montana Love will be fighting

1434
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: his own backyard there in Cleveland, a guy who hasn't lost,

1435
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: a rising one forty guy looking to enter the title picture.

1436
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: So there's some fun matching making here. And to Serano,

1437
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: you can argue right along with Katie Teller is in

1438
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: the conversation for Pampa from number one. Obviously Colossa Shields

1439
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: is there as well for on the women's side. So

1440
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: a good mixed Luke, I think of, you know, quote

1441
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: unquote serious fights in the in the traditional boxing lane,

1442
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: and then some of let's see what we've got here

1443
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: with potential crossover attractions. I mean, look, the Fury family

1444
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: is must SEETV right whether they're in a boxing ring,

1445
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: in front of a microphone, or even on an island

1446
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: trying to hook up. And so it's gonna be fun

1447
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: to see if Tommy Fury, who I think up to

1448
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: this point is six and zero, can put some wins

1449
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: together and maybe Luke can enter into this sphere that

1450
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: the Paul brothers have built of marketable crossover boxing. And

1451
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I know Jake Paul is trying to be more than that,

1452
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: and that's why this fight against uh Tyron Woodley is

1453
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: such a tough test for him to do that. But

1454
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: also think Tommy Fury, who's right around that weight class,

1455
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: is trying to enter that conversation just the same. Luke.

1456
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: His opponent is, by the way, a training partner of

1457
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: the Paul brothers down there in Puerto Rico. So there's

1458
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 1: some connective tissue across the board here.

1459
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Interesting. So a small thing I would mention BC. I

1460
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: don't know if this was intentional or not, but I

1461
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: actually feel like they did a smart thing. If listen,

1462
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: if you're trying to get fans to watch this, are

1463
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 2: boxing fans gonna watch? Yes, some, I think you're gonna

1464
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: get a lot of MMA fans crossing over to see

1465
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: how Tyrone does and blah blah blah. But what's kind

1466
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: of interesting is you've got a six round fight, a

1467
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: ten round fight, a ten round fight, a ten round fight,

1468
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: and an eight round fight, not a twelve round are

1469
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: on there. I think if you're gonna keep MMA fans

1470
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: and get them to watch, you gotta have shorter boxing fights,

1471
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: at least at first. Obviously educated MMA fans who like

1472
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: boxing and understand it are gonna prefer the longer ones.

1473
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: But for the casual one you might be getting, it's

1474
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: a smart play to have contained smaller bouts in terms

1475
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: of the rounds and the woman's one, I think they're

1476
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: gonna have what two minute rounds even if I'm not mistaken,

1477
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: it'll be shorter each.

1478
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: One, absolutely, and I think there's potential for combustibility in

1479
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: those fights. And look, show Time's been up front. We

1480
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Speaker 1: do what we do on Showtime Championship Boxing. We're also

1481
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: in this other lane and we're putting on fun fights,

1482
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: and I think there's a chance here to create attractions.

1483
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: And the opponent of Tommy Fury, by the way, Luca,

1484
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Anthony pretty Boy Taylor seven and five

1485
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: in MMA, but has won five in a row and

1486
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: he's a belator veteran. So you've got sort of this

1487
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: continued world of boxing in MMA and you know, social

1488
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: influencers coming together. Let's see if we can create new opponents.

1489
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: Let's see if the Jake Paul train can continue. Luke,

1490
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean, his success sort of in a lot of

1491
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,799
Speaker 1: ways dictates the long term success of this crossover bubble.

1492
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see if this can keep going. But you know,

1493
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: if you're a boxing fan just as well, you're gonna

1494
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: see some bangers. Ivan Branchick versus Montana Love is a

1495
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: very interesting fight, former champion against a guy who's trying

1496
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: to enter that conversation.

1497
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: And this is what I mean about belt or getting like.

1498
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: Bilt has to keep its core product what it is.

1499
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: They can't get out of it. But on the other hand,

1500
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: and they shouldn't. They should keep developing it. But what

1501
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying is for special case scenarios, you got to

1502
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: do special things. Correct me if I'm wrong. Be see.

1503
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: This is gonna be on Sunday, August twenty ninth, which,

1504
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: as you indicated, live from Cleean in Ohio on pay

1505
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: per view the day before that. It's Showtime Championship Boxing.

1506
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: David Benavidez is fighting. That's a real fight, real top

1507
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: level guys and bouts. I think at the uz Kenteki fight,

1508
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: I think it is who he's taking on there, right

1509
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: memory serves. So the point being here is Showtime didn't

1510
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: get away from what it does. It kept doing it.

1511
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,520
Speaker 2: It just added some extra stuff for these different opportunities

1512
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: to leverage him and I think it makes a lot

1513
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: of sense.

1514
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And by the way, don't sleep on that Benavidez

1515
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: Who's Kotegi fight, which will take place in Phoenix the

1516
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: night before. As you mentioned on showtime, Who's Cottigi a

1517
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: former champion, and we know Benavidez is just come forward

1518
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: all the time. Who's Kotagi also has the fun style.

1519
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,440
Speaker 1: This could be a fun little banger. And if Benavidez

1520
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: can survive in advance here, Luke, you know that Caleb

1521
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 1: Plant Canelo fight kind of just fell apart. Caleb Plant

1522
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: is the opponent, the IBF champion, unbeaten for Benavidez. They

1523
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: have history, they don't like each other. This should be fun.

1524
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: And also on that undercard, look, you remember David Benavidez's brother,

1525
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: Jose Benavidez Junior one fought Terrence Crawford for a welterweight

1526
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: world title. He's making a comeback. He'll be featured in

1527
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: that in that main card as well, so it should

1528
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: be interesting.

1529
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, b see a smaller fight.

1530
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: But we put it on here because I actually thought

1531
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: this is the first time that like if you had

1532
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: to pick out like the last three or maybe even

1533
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 2: four opponents Shaquer Stevenson has had. Could you name them?

1534
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could, but you're gonna be

1535
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 2: able to after this. Jamel Herring simplify himself and Shaquer

1536
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Stevenson have agreed to terms on a fight. We don't

1537
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: have a date yet, but I think it's gonna be

1538
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 2: November thirteenth. According to promoter Bob Aram, it was almost

1539
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 2: going to go to a purse bid. It did not. Stevenson,

1540
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: of course, undefeated sixteen and ZH Herring twenty three and two,

1541
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: but a big win over Carl Frampton. How much do

1542
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: you like this fight?

1543
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. And you know, I didn't

1544
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: know if Jamel Herring was on this level. I know

1545
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: he'd won a world title, and you know he's been

1546
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: in some tough fights. We remember two fights ago we

1547
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: kind of criticized him for the way he reacted to

1548
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: that injury and all that. Well, he came back against

1549
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: Carl Frampton and sent him to retirement. Luke an all

1550
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: time great and two division champion Carl Frampton. Huge win

1551
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: for Herring and what makes this fight great, Luke is

1552
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: not just that Herring's tough and we finally have a

1553
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: tough opponent for Stevenson to find out how good he

1554
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: is as he tries to win a title in the

1555
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: second weight class. It's that these guys know each other

1556
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 1: very well. They're in that extended sort of Terence Crawford

1557
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: bubble fighters who have trained together, who all get along well.

1558
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: But they've said, you know, we're gonna put the personnel aside.

1559
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: This is business. And what was interesting is this fight

1560
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: almost went the purse bid route, which is rare, again

1561
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: when they're both with the same promoter. This could have

1562
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: been disastrous for Herring Luke because under the specific rules

1563
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: of the WBO purse bids, they average out the fight

1564
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: perse of your last three fights to try to figure

1565
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: out what percentage. So even though Herring was the defending

1566
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: champion coming in, had this fight gone to PERSPID, he

1567
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: would have only made like something like thirty seven percent

1568
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: of the actual purse based on the fact that Stevenson's

1569
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: a bigger name and makes more money. It didn't end

1570
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 1: up going that route. It doesn't matter to fans anyway.

1571
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: October twenty third could be one of the dates. Also

1572
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: November thirteenth, as you mentioned, some talk it might end

1573
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: up being in New York's Madison Square Garden as well, Luke.

1574
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the theater or the Big Arena if they can

1575
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: package it, but it'll be on ESPN. Should be a

1576
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: very tough fight. I think Stevenson is of this ilk

1577
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: of five of these four lightweights we talk about that

1578
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: have next in the sport, I think he's gonna eventually

1579
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: move up to that weight class and be right with him. No,

1580
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: Stevenson's last win, Luke, was not exciting. It is what

1581
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: it is. But I think that if anyone of these

1582
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: young guys that are under twenty six years old are

1583
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: showing you a little bit of Floyd Flash, I hate,

1584
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 1: compared to anyone to flip May with her, but I'll

1585
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: show you a little Floyd Flash for Shaquer Stevenson because

1586
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: hit and not get hit. That's what he does, Luke.

1587
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: He's brash, he's slick, he's dynamic, and we know Herring

1588
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: comes to fight your old boy the former Marine. Although

1589
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: that's not such a thing according to you, Luke.

1590
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: No, X Marine is not a thing. Former Marina is

1591
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: a thing. So I'm actually watching the video on the

1592
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 2: jab by one of his trainers. It's kind of interesting, Luke.

1593
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: We have talked about fight rumors, fight announcements before both

1594
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: the UFC ones we hit in this one. I'm not

1595
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: breaking any news here, And sometimes when there's a fight rumor,

1596
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: it's tough to find the source of the rumor on

1597
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: the Internet, where you're like, is this a real thing?

1598
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: Did somebody reporter or is somebody just talking about it?

1599
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: There's been some internet chatter, Luke, and I'd love to

1600
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: find out where it started. Of the idea of Tank Davis,

1601
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: our guy right pay per view star, fresh off that

1602
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: win against Mario Barrios, exciting at one where he moved

1603
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: up in wait he'd be going up to welter way

1604
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: to face Keith Thurman. Now, look, I'm not breaking any news.

1605
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's been some legitimate Internet chatter on this,

1606
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: even just as a fantasy fight. Luke, could you see

1607
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Tank Davis this early going up to welterweight and fighting

1608
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: real punchers like one time?

1609
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I that is so out

1610
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: there yet so intriguing. I don't even really know what

1611
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: to say about it, because I honestly feel like Tank

1612
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 2: could punch with him. I really do mean that. I

1613
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: think that's probably the limit of what who he could

1614
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: punch with. But he could do it, and he could

1615
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: have a speed advantage. But like, dude, Thurman can thump

1616
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 2: a little bit too man, And that's a small guy

1617
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: relatively speaking in Tank Davis, Like, you know, you're able

1618
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 2: to stand to Mario Barrios's punches. That's one thing. Keith

1619
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: Thurman's another level. I don't. I I'm not gonna say

1620
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: I hate it, because I wouldn't. But that's, you know,

1621
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: because everyone was bitter at Floyd for like, oh, you know,

1622
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: only gonna fight the PBC guys and fuck everybody else.

1623
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, well, that's where all the exciting fights are.

1624
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: And that's still true. But it's an interesting workaround, right

1625
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: if you go to Keith Thurman route, that's actually real.

1626
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 2: That's a hellrile workaround.

1627
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Dude, that's that's real, daring to be great. And here's

1628
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: the deal. Like, Thurman's only thirty two, but you know

1629
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: he hasn't fount in two years since the Pacquiel fight.

1630
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: He didn't fight for a long time before that. You

1631
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: remember the fight right before the Pacao fight, hos this,

1632
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, Lopez almost upset him and rocked him. I mean,

1633
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, Thurman at his best can certainly box and punch.

1634
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: We saw that in the great effort he put in

1635
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: there against Pacio. But he's been out for a while

1636
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: and Tank is surging. I'm just saying this. When Floyd

1637
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: became a star. Now, look, remember that argument I had

1638
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: with him in South Beach. Like in the end, Luke,

1639
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: Floyd fought everybody, Okay, mostly in the end. Sometimes there

1640
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: was some talk about the timing, But during that peak

1641
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: of his career we argued about the timing. You know,

1642
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: the best way to remove any of those arguments is

1643
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: take bold chances and keep betting on yourself. If this

1644
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 1: is something that's actually real, and Tank Davis wanted to

1645
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: do it, dude, we'd be heaping tons of respect on

1646
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: him and it would be rightfully. So I don't think

1647
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: you can lose, even if you lose in this type

1648
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: of setting, Luke, short of you know, getting knocked out

1649
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 1: cold right right and it being bad for you. So

1650
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: interesting thought here as we move forward into the second

1651
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: half of the year.

1652
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: All right, so before we go to Fan Subs and

1653
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Wheel of Death, real quickly, I forgot to do this

1654
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,839
Speaker 2: at the top of the show BC, if the producers

1655
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: have graphic, let's use it. We have been nominated for

1656
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: some awards. Whether or not we should have been or not,

1657
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: whether or not we'll win, it's up to you. But

1658
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: you can vote. So here's one Best MMA Programming nominee

1659
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: for the World MMA Awards. That's WORLDMMA Awards dot Com

1660
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: slash nominees. You can go and vote for us down there.

1661
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: And we're also on a very prestigious other one that

1662
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't even know the name of, like the Podcast

1663
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: Awards or something. Something a little bit generic. Morning Combat

1664
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: can win for Best Sports Podcast, the best Male Hosted Podcast.

1665
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 2: You go to Podcast Awards dot com slash app slash

1666
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: sign up with that. BC. Please take it away.

1667
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: All right, here's what we do every Wednesday. You know

1668
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: about this. You love it. Sometimes it's spectacular, sometimes it's

1669
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: boring as balls depends on Luke's demeanor at the moment.

1670
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: But sometimes there's questions Luke just doesn't want to answer.

1671
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: So we've created a segment built around that. Of course,

1672
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: it's called the Wheel of Death. Only this time Luke

1673
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: to spice things up just a little bit more, your

1674
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: BOYBC has given us. I don't know if this works.

1675
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we can do it every month. I don't know,

1676
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: but Luke, today is the debut Celebrity Wheel of Death.

1677
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: So here's the deal, Luke. I have reached out to

1678
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: ten different celebrities of various levels of fame and had

1679
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: them send in their own recorded question that they want

1680
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas to answer. So I'm gonna read to you

1681
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: your ten categories. Normally, the categories describe the type of

1682
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: question coming your way, Luke, this time the categories will

1683
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: describe which celebrity could or could not be asking you

1684
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: a question. We've got ten categories, you get five spins

1685
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: of the wheel. You get what you get. Here are

1686
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: your ten categories for Celebrity Wheel of Death. Big Booty

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01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: Latinas singer songwriter, raised in Marietta, Famous Featherweights, International man

1688
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:07,520
Speaker 1: of Mystery, Serious like a heart attack, Canadian journalists, sexy Strawways,

1689
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, first time, long time and surprising comedians.

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01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: In fact, Luke, you might be surprised at that one.

1691
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: So Luke, before we spin you got you're nervous. What

1692
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: do we got going on here? Luke?

1693
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: Nothing to it but to do it. Let's do this shit.

1694
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you got some celebrities coming your way. Luke,

1695
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: and this is these questions are not written by me,

1696
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: They're by them. So ten categories, five spins, go after it.

1697
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: I have a feeling you're using the word celebrity loosely.

1698
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: Here we go spin number one.

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: So are they going to read the questions or are

1700
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 2: you going to read the questions?

1701
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: Oh, singer songwriter? They are going to read their own questions, Luke,

1702
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: Let's go to the videotape. Celebrity number one.

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01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 7: Hey guys, Pennington James here live from the setup Organs

1704
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 7: of Combat as we get ready for our twenty twenty

1705
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 7: two music tour. And Luke questioned for you as ion

1706
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 7: bark onto the rock scene, which sellout band is your favorite?

1707
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 7: We're talking Nickelback, three Doors Down, Chris Daughtry. When you

1708
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 7: close the door at night and nobody's watching, and you

1709
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 7: abandon your death metal for a little modern rock, what

1710
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 7: is your guilty pleasure?

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: We'll see you soon.

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01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: New single out this Friday.

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 7: Check it out Pennington James on every music platform you

1714
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 7: could possibly listen to.

1715
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: Pennington looking good with that haircut, Luke.

1716
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this, I've never seen a person

1717
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: who would be more in love with the idea like

1718
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: Jay's such a failure he wouldn't even be eligible to

1719
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: sell out.

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow. So his question, Luke, is under the category

1721
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: of modern rock. You know, I think late nineties, early

1722
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: two thousands, maybe some of the shit you hear today.

1723
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: What is your favorite sellout? And Jay asked, Luke.

1724
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 2: Now, how are we defining sellout? What does that mean?

1725
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: Like so so poppy that they can't have any credibility anymore.

1726
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: That's why he put out there as examples, Nickelback. You know,

1727
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: I think of like Stained, I think of like I mean,

1728
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: are they all sell out? No, but they have a very.

1729
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Metallica, does Metallica cut class?

1730
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 1: I mean, in a hipster argument, you know, certainly Metallica

1731
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: had their sellout moments. If you're like, yeah, bro, Saint Aeger,

1732
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: it's actually not that bad. The drums don't sound like

1733
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: pots and pants. But I won't accept that, Luke. We're

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: talking about radio modern rock from that same era.

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01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: I'll say, oh, there's probably a couple of them. Three

1736
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 2: doors down has that one song called duck and Run.

1737
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: You ever heard that?

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01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: Yep?

1739
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I won't duck and run because I'm not

1740
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: built that way.

1741
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,839
Speaker 1: So they also that sing a be Without You Baby.

1742
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1743
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 2: See, I don't like any of that shit. It's just

1744
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: it's just their upbeat stuff. I don't like that one. Okay,

1745
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 2: I'll say that one. I'll throw another one in there,

1746
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 2: I'll throw and you know what, same kind of naming

1747
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,839
Speaker 2: convention I'll throw in. I think it's Three Days Grace

1748
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: because they have a couple of songs that have been

1749
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: played at every fucking agro lifting gym I've ever been in,

1750
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: and so you kind of get you know, the guitars

1751
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: are super shitt either like ever clear bar he just

1752
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: you know, totally tone deaf, but you know they get

1753
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: the blood pumping a little bit. So I'll say, you know,

1754
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: the names are similar, Three Days Grace, three Doors Down.

1755
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: How about that?

1756
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: Those are those are? Those are accurate? Accurate descriptions. I

1757
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: got a text, feel like, I got a live text

1758
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: from Jason Aaron that says Metallica is not sellout. He

1759
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 1: loves Duck and Ron and Citizen Soldier, and he also

1760
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: loves Three Days Grace. So I guess you accurately answered

1761
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: the question, Luke. I'm getting live live feedback. He says.

1762
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: He says, hate everything about you. I don't know if

1763
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: he's referring to that song by hate every thing about you?

1764
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible.

1765
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Luke. Hey, Spin number one is in

1766
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: the books there from our first celebrity, Pennington James. Thank

1767
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 1: you very much. Let's go to Spin two.

1768
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: Singer God, this is gonna be terrible.

1769
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: Hey, famous featherweights, Luke, let's see who we got here

1770
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: at one thirty five, let's go or one forty five.

1771
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: Excuse me, let's let's go to the videotape.

1772
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going?

1773
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: Guys?

1774
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: UFC fighter Billy Q here had a question for Luke

1775
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: for the wheel of death. All right, Luke, who is

1776
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 3: your number one underrated UFC featherweight in the whole world?

1777
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: Second question, if you had to pick any MMA journalist,

1778
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: who would be the favorite to end up in jail

1779
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 3: this year or to go to jail?

1780
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Luke. I want to say shout out to

1781
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: Billy Q. He's on his honeymoon right now and he

1782
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: stopped to help us out. So shout out to the

1783
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: great Billy Q. Look at two part question, what do

1784
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: you got?

1785
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 6: Uh?

1786
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: All right, let me ask quit what that second part?

1787
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: Did?

1788
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: I hear him?

1789
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 6: Right?

1790
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 2: Did he say which MMA journalists would be most likely

1791
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: to go to jail this year?

1792
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what he said.

1793
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. First of all. Shouts to Billy Q.

1794
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: He'll be the answer to my question about underrated by

1795
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: the ways. I'll add to that list because he had

1796
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: a ask whatever Gabriel, but he does he beat the

1797
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 2: fuck out of him. I'll add, I'll add Iliopsalporia. I'll

1798
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: add you know, I think Josh Emmitt at the top

1799
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 2: of that is kind of unhealed despite his ranking, So

1800
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: I'll put those three on the list. Shouts to Billy Que.

1801
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: He belongs on there too. Which MMA journalist that's the

1802
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: most bizarre question. He's like, he's gonna go to jail

1803
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: dot dot dot this year.

1804
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: Who's most likely of all the MMA journals to end

1805
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 1: up in jail?

1806
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 2: Luke, I feel like Gareth Davis probably has a lot

1807
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: of skills. It is like if anyone got caught at

1808
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 2: a swinger's party, he'd be like Gareth again.

1809
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't hate on that. I thought you were

1810
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: gonna say, Mike Bone on a plane he gets a

1811
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: little handsy looke, you know what I mean.

1812
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying like I'm against Gareth or what

1813
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 2: he's doing, like go party bro. But uh yeah, I'll

1814
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: say Gareth. I'll say Gareth the Warlock.

1815
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: I love it, Luke, I love it all right. Two

1816
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: spins in the book so far Celebrity Wheel of Death,

1817
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: of Monster Success.

1818
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: Luke, let's go to spin number three.

1819
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: Come on, Latina, big booty, Oh you fuck me, International

1820
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Man of Mystery and we have Austin Powers. I think

1821
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: we got the next best thing. Let's hit it.

1822
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the warl up here as Brian me. I've

1823
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 6: got a question for you, Luke Thomas. You're a military fan,

1824
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 6: you're a bit of a military historian. You've had a

1825
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 6: little bit of that in your history. Which British regiment

1826
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 6: did Prince Harry servin? Which British regiment did Prince Harry Servant?

1827
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 6: Don't call a friend, don't go to Wikipedia, just answer honestly.

1828
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 6: Love to you both, peace out.

1829
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 2: Yes, fuck, that's amazing. That's amazing that I picked him

1830
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: for the answer to my second question. And he was

1831
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: the guy reading the.

1832
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: Third by the way, shout out, shout out to the Warlock.

1833
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: He was traveling back to the UK and he took

1834
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: time out the airport to help us out here, Luke.

1835
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: He is talking about, of course, Prince Harry of Wales.

1836
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Duke of Sussex. I don't, I don't know.

1837
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to look this one. I used to

1838
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 2: know this. I don't anymore. Hold On, let me see

1839
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: like an find it because I I don't know, right

1840
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: hold on? He was in did he go? Is he

1841
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: Royal Marines? I don't think so.

1842
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: No, he was in the He was commissioned as a

1843
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: cornet into the Blues and Royals, serving temporary temporarily with

1844
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: his brother William in the British Army.

1845
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: Luke. Yeah, but what unit? That's just the side so

1846
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: it looks like he was with the first Mech Brigade

1847
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:23,839
Speaker 2: out of the third Mech Division.

1848
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,879
Speaker 1: He was Blues and Royals, which was a cavalry regiment

1849
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: of the British Army. Luke proud of the household Cavalry.

1850
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't know that, didn't know that. But Shota Garet

1851
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: Davis all like giving him a hard times. He's a

1852
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: wild man. He's a wild man. He was act on

1853
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 2: a bus one time and he was telling me about

1854
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,520
Speaker 2: his sexual escapade. Boy, he has lived a life huh.

1855
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: He's an original, Luke. Okay, he's first time I met him,

1856
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: he put his hands down my pants. I'm actually not.

1857
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Kidding, Luke.

1858
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: That's him, that is That is all right? Here? Three down,

1859
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: two to go.

1860
01:26:55,640 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 2: Here we go, spend. Did you see Mikey's text?

1861
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 7: No?

1862
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: All right Canadian? Oh Jesus Christ. Wh you guys leave

1863
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: this topic alone? Please?

1864
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Is it really him? Look? Did we

1865
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: get him for this?

1866
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 7: Just?

1867
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: No chance? You got him? Zero chance?

1868
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: Come on? Come on, hell wands.

1869
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 2: Really?

1870
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 8: Ah, you're serious? Okay, I'll let them know. No, that's okay,

1871
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 8: all right, thanks. Oh hey, it's morning combat, Luke. I

1872
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 8: just took a really bad phone call.

1873
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 7: It.

1874
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 8: I hate to be the bearer of bad news here,

1875
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 8: but that was your bank. They're gonna foreclose on your

1876
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 8: home unless they say, if you're able to beat a

1877
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 8: UFC fighter and a three round fight in the UFC

1878
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 8: in the octagon, they'll spare you. They're gonna spare your home,

1879
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 8: but otherwise they're gonna have to foreclose. So I need

1880
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 8: you to pick a UFC fighter that you think you

1881
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 8: have a shot of beating in a three round UFC fight.

1882
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Anyway, see

1883
01:27:58,640 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: you guys soon.

1884
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Luke shout out to ab our Canadian friend. He basically

1885
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: read to you the plot of the movie. Here comes

1886
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: the boom start, Kevin James. But Luke, if you were

1887
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: were tasked with saving your house by challenging any UFC

1888
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: fighter to a three round fight, which fighter do you

1889
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: think you would have the best chance of beating? Obviously

1890
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: we're going open weight here, Luke.

1891
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, obviously, okay, all right, So who is the shittiest

1892
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: women's strawweight fighter, because that's the one I'm calling out.

1893
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the Andy Kaufman bit and just have

1894
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: to be the champion of beating.

1895
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Up the intergender champion.

1896
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, intergender champion. I honestly, dud, I would just

1897
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 2: I just lose my fucking home. I'm not trying to

1898
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: lose my home and lose my teeth.

1899
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well, the lowest rated. Now this is just

1900
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,440
Speaker 1: top fifteen. Obviously there's more fighters beyond that. But Felice

1901
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: Herrick right now is ranked number fifteen among UFC strawweight

1902
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to a very galented, beautiful fighter, Luke, you know, could

1903
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: you beat her in a three round fight?

1904
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Luke?

1905
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: This is this is the spirit of the question from

1906
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: from young Bronstutter.

1907
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I could, you know, obviously give him my

1908
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: size and you know relative welljeause, I'm forty two empathetic now,

1909
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 2: but I could probably win a grappling match without a

1910
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:19,879
Speaker 2: whole lot of issue.

1911
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, that sounds like a challenge, Luke.

1912
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm my days are I'm retired.

1913
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 2: I never really started BC, but I'm now officially retired.

1914
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1915
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 2: Police might beat my ass. You ever seen her in person, Dude,

1916
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: she's fucking bricked up. Yes, I don't want that smoke

1917
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: at all. Now, I just lose my home. Fuck it,

1918
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: you got you know what? I would torch it and

1919
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: then collect the insurance money and then blame it on you.

1920
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: Well. Producer Mikey is offering CM Punk, a one hundred

1921
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: and seventy five seventy pounder with limited experience as a

1922
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: guy you might be able to beat. Luke.

1923
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: I would say that if the UFC put on a

1924
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: fight between me and seem Punk, they deserve to, you know,

1925
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 2: have belt or become number one in the in the business.

1926
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: They should we I should never disgrace the octagon by

1927
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: being in there.

1928
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,599
Speaker 1: All right, Well, there you go, Luke. Four celebrities down,

1929
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: one left, Luke, spin number.

1930
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: Five, Spin that bitch. We gonna get one that I like.

1931
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: We'd never get the categories I like first time, long time. See.

1932
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about this.

1933
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: You don't even know who it's gonna be. Luke could

1934
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: be a big time celebrity, right, big time fans of

1935
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: our show.

1936
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 2: Right, are you gonna? Are you gonna draw a beard

1937
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 2: on Jay's face and permanent marker?

1938
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 7: No?

1939
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: I got somebody much more famous, Luke probably our most

1940
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: famous fan. Let's throw to it right now?

1941
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 9: Oh God, except fellas Damon the donk from Stockton here

1942
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 9: and I have a question to the Great Luke Thomas. Luke,

1943
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 9: what are you waiting for a brother? When are you

1944
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 9: gonna join me in BC and join the Three Nino Society?

1945
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 9: I mean, you don't need any more kids. We can

1946
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 9: already hear daughter's screaming every dang episode. Can you imagine

1947
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 9: you with another kid and no offense? But if Biler's

1948
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 9: gettin old, I don't think she needs another grand baby.

1949
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 9: You can't do that to her. Okay, So I did

1950
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 9: you a favor I know you like the facts, right.

1951
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 9: I picked you up right here some peer reviewed journalism.

1952
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 9: I will go to the Stockton Post Office tomorrow send

1953
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 9: this to DC just for you.

1954
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: Brother.

1955
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 9: Okay, you may lose your libido and sex drive, but

1956
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 9: it's okay. You're old and washed. Anyways, have a great

1957
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:30,520
Speaker 9: day and stay frosty.

1958
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Luke. It's a it's a legitimate question, as Mark ray

1959
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Mundy would say, when are you planning on joining the

1960
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Three Needles Society?

1961
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. I haven't really thought about it yet.

1962
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Uh I probably not far, honestly, probably not far. A

1963
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 2: buddy of mine is getting it in next month. Wait, no,

1964
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: this month, sorry, the end of this month. So he's

1965
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 2: the same age as me, but he's already got two kids.

1966
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: I don't know what my wife and I were waiting for.

1967
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: We don't have the other one. I don't know. Probably

1968
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: sleep probably next three years.

1969
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there is some some threat here, Luke, that

1970
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 1: you would lose your libido and everything that makes you

1971
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: a man. I've been there, Luke.

1972
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not quite like a dog getting neutered,

1973
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: But like, I mean, how much more pathetic could I be?

1974
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking at at the bottom of the

1975
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: barrel here all.

1976
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Right, hey, Luke, you gotta give it up to our

1977
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: five celebrity I mean that was that was that was great,

1978
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: pretty good.

1979
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: Billy Q was the was the you know what Billy

1980
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: Q and then Gareth MVPs. Really I gotta say. I

1981
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 2: would say I'm sorry for slandering Gareth, but I'm honestly not.

1982
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great slander, so I'm gonna

1983
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 2: stick with it.

1984
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: It was well timed comedy. Luke, would you would you

1985
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: spin the celebrity wheel again in the future? Is this

1986
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: something you're into?

1987
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

1988
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you to all submitters there and presenters.

1989
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: That's it for the Wheel of Death this week. But Luke,

1990
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 1: every Wednesday we also have another fun segment. It's where

1991
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 1: our fans get a chance to send in their gifts

1992
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 1: and pictures Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Of course

1993
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: your fan subs on Wednesday you're dead wrongs for Friday,

1994
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: and boy, I think do we have a lot of

1995
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: them this week already piling up. But Luke, let's hit

1996
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: this week's mail. It's called fan submissions.

1997
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 2: Fan Submissions.

1998
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: We've got mail all right, Let's see what kind of

1999
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: artwork are people sent in?

2000
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 8: Luke.

2001
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: This is from Abraham. He says, Hey, guys, day one

2002
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: fan here from North Florida. You've been following Luke since

2003
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: he took over the MMA hour. I have two. This

2004
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: is today, one from several weeks ago, wearing my one

2005
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: point oh merch uh. And can we go back to

2006
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: number one?

2007
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 6: Here?

2008
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Hold on a second? Hold on good this one. The

2009
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: first one is his one point oh merch And can

2010
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: you blow this up? Luke? Can you speak to his technique,

2011
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: his setup, How how he fills that t shirt out

2012
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: at all?

2013
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I mean hard to say exactly because you have to

2014
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 2: watch everything, uh in real time. But he's got his

2015
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 2: grip is not too wide, He's got a mixed grip,

2016
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 2: which is fine. He looks like he's breathing out into

2017
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: the belt, which is correct. He's got the right shoes on,

2018
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: just don't lean back too far. And everything looks pretty

2019
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: good man. And looks like he's in the right kind

2020
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 2: of gym too so. And he's got a deadlift jack.

2021
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: This is a real gym with a real deadlift. Great,

2022
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 2: great job like him.

2023
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: Abraham then says, for picture two, this one is from

2024
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: this week in my two point zero merch with slightly

2025
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: more weight. I've been a jiu jitsu guy for eight years,

2026
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 1: but got inspired to start lifting in March thanks to

2027
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas in his front yard gym. Thank you to

2028
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: both of you guys for great content. Mk all day

2029
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: in PS, can you guys get showtime to add a

2030
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: shipping order confirmation for your orders? Both times were incredibly stressful,

2031
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: not knowing if the order went through. Hopefully, Luke, we

2032
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: can run that tidbit up the chain to your boy

2033
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Krup and get to the bottom of that. But hey, Abraham,

2034
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 1: thank you for supporting us. This is look you inspired

2035
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: this guy to change his life.

2036
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 2: That's fucking awesome. I love seeing that there was someone

2037
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 2: I inspired years ago, or at least you know, they

2038
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 2: said I did to like pursue jiu jitsu, and then

2039
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: like five or six years later they got their black belt,

2040
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: which was like fucking awesome to see him. And I'm

2041
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 2: looking at the numbers here. If this guy's a novice

2042
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: lifter relatively speaking, novice intermediate, this is about four hundred

2043
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: on the bar here. And if if he's if you're

2044
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 2: a reasonably new lifter and you're at four hundred with

2045
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 2: clean technique. Dude, keep going, you'll hit five or six,

2046
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe even more. Good for him. Man, really happy to

2047
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 2: see it.

2048
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Our boy Abraham looking like the wwe rustler that now

2049
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: an aw Russef. He looks like Russef Crush. Yes, Luke,

2050
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: he looks like a Russian weightlifter. I have no idea

2051
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 1: what his background.

2052
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Is, and I don't think he stormed the Capitol on

2053
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: January sixth. He was the light rum instead.

2054
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: Hell no, Luke, no way, all right, Lewis is here, Luke.

2055
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 1: He's got two photos, he says, Please give a shout

2056
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: out to my beautiful daughter, Brianna. We are both huge

2057
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 1: MK fans, just a couple of donks bonding through MK

2058
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: all day, nearly every day. Love you guys. Can you

2059
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: zoom in here? Miniach? What do we got going on here?

2060
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 2: We got the point We look about man's collection, not

2061
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: this one where he's got his prescription drugs all in

2062
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: the back. Good to the other one, good to the

2063
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 2: other one. The other photo. Yeah, I was zooming on

2064
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: that one, bro, look at my man's serial collection.

2065
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: That's soid.

2066
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 2: I'm done with Jack's tricks. He is having a good

2067
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 2: time at three am.

2068
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: He's got the gatorade, the spices, the UFC replica belt.

2069
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 1: But hey, Luke, he put his daughter behind a UFC

2070
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: belt and says they both watch MK together. It is

2071
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: a you know, a family bonding experience, Luke, it can.

2072
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 2: Be, especially when we talk about pornography.

2073
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: Shout out to both Lewis and Breana. Thank you for watching.

2074
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, I love you. All Right, Michael is here,

2075
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,839
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, guys, have not missed an episode yet. Downson,

2076
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: stay one. My two sons, ages eight and five, can

2077
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: ken your show? Oh? They call our show dad jokes

2078
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Thought Luke would appreciate my gimlet in my

2079
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: Camp David engraved glass that I got from a buddy

2080
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: that worked in the Obama administration. Direct from Camp David

2081
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: cheers from one fat forty year old dad to a

2082
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 1: couple of others.

2083
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: All right, that's awesome.

2084
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Shout out.

2085
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2086
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't have any Camp David paraphernalia, but I got

2087
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that my friends gave me when

2088
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: they came back from Iraq. So I love stuff like that.

2089
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: And you once your hair fell out out of stress.

2090
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 1: As a speech writer for the government.

2091
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Loop so that's right it did and favorite Michael.

2092
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: Thank you for supporting us and watching the show. Scott

2093
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: slides in with two photos Vegas splash pads with my

2094
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: three year old training to take on Luke's daughter and

2095
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: toddler take down one oh one. Thanks for the insightful

2096
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: coverage your two old donkey knk kings, Luke. That's your

2097
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: what your daughter's favorite play area right there?

2098
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 2: That's the number one go to these days. She loves

2099
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: that thing.

2100
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh look, that's the new heat available at Morning Coombat

2101
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: Dot store. The donk hat. Scott looking good in that.

2102
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah he's at a beach where you'd have to wear

2103
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: all your tennis shoes otherwise your feet would get sliced

2104
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: of shit. But otherwise great picture.

2105
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, sun's out, guns out. Big fan of this guy, Scott.

2106
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. It looks great on you. Okay, and

2107
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: keep your kids off the internet, thank you very much.

2108
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: Try not to drown your children in open air environments.

2109
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: All right. Anthony's here with two photos, he says, Hi.

2110
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Luke and Brian Anthony from Chicago emailing MK for my

2111
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: second fan submission. My first one was on Valentine's Day

2112
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: when my girlfriend surprised me with this green hoodie. Now,

2113
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: just when I thought she could not be any more amazing.

2114
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: Check out these photos from our trip last week to

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01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: her home country of Ecuador. She took me on an

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01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: adventure to the capital of Quito, the middle of the World,

2117
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: the volcanic hot springs, and most importantly, she introduced me

2118
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: to her family in Quensa Guensa Gwenca. The collage is

2119
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: a photo of the Middle of the World and the

2120
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: Basilika in central Keto. As for the second koto Basilica

2121
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 1: there got why my the one reading this, let's zoom

2122
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 1: in on this for a moment. Luke loved this guy, right, Anthony?

2123
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 2: I remember Ray? First of all, the sight scene looks

2124
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Actually, I don't know much about Ecuador, frankly,

2125
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: but uh, that's a hell of a That's a help, dude.

2126
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 2: What is Anthony waiting on? Put a ring on this

2127
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 2: girl around?

2128
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 6: Wow?

2129
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: Wow? I mean this is this is a very fine

2130
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: looking woman. Can you can you she loves MK Can

2131
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: you make this happen already?

2132
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 2: I see the show of hands. Raise your hand if

2133
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 2: oh friend, oh look at that that is awesome. Raise

2134
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 2: your hand if your girlfriend has taken you on an

2135
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,560
Speaker 2: international trip and got you swaged from your favorite podcast.

2136
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, okay, let me read this, Luke. Here

2137
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: we go. As for the second photo, she wanted to

2138
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 1: remind Luke that, despite his advice back in February, I

2139
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 1: have yet to bend the knee and pop the question.

2140
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: I made her a promise that I would propose once

2141
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: MK hits one hundred thousand subscribers. Just kidding. I have

2142
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: a plan and we'll report back with my third fan submission.

2143
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 1: Thank you to the whole crew for making us feel

2144
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 1: like family, Luke.

2145
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 2: That is per second. See, let me ask a question.

2146
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: We're doing this on air, right do you think he's

2147
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: waiting for us to put this on air? And then

2148
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 2: while this is airing, he then proposes to his girlfriend.

2149
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 1: That look if right now he is on one knee,

2150
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: he had like boys to men on bed and knee,

2151
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 1: and she's you know, she look, they might look they

2152
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 1: might be consummating right now. I don't know their religious beliefs.

2153
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 2: They might just be getting any professional counseling.

2154
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 1: Wow wow, shout out to Anthony there, please put a

2155
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: ring on it. Get it done. Well done there, sir,

2156
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going here with Vincent. He's got he says.

2157
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: All cats are friends to MK, morning, noon or night.

2158
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: These cats listen to Luke and BC while they dine

2159
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: on fancy feast. They've been together for fourteen years and

2160
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: love nothing more than kicking back on the one point

2161
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: zero merch and watching fights with their mom and dad.

2162
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Been waiting for a show about combat sports like MK

2163
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: since I was fourteen years old, and watching Randy and

2164
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: Chuck coaching the first season. It's tough. Love the boxing coverage.

2165
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: Love you guys, review more movies when you find time. Luke,

2166
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: I think his cats are named Bill and Nancy or

2167
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: something like that.

2168
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: Uh, looking great, Luke shouts to all the cat owners

2169
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 2: out there.

2170
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: All that sign no no, all right, all right, thank

2171
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: you Vincent A big supporter of those cats. Looking great?

2172
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: All right. Jason's here, He's got four photos, He says,

2173
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: what's going on in BC and Luke j from Boston

2174
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: back for the third time this week. I am once

2175
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: again paying my respects to the MK curse. We all

2176
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: know the curse is real, and unfortunately for Pitbull, it's

2177
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: time for him to carry on the streak. First, to

2178
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: Patricio Frede, there is a fifth dimension beyond that which

2179
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,719
Speaker 1: is known to man. It is a dimension as vast

2180
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,080
Speaker 1: as Big Country's belly and as timeless as Mike Goldberg's

2181
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,719
Speaker 1: play by play. It is the middle ground between Joshua

2182
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Fabia and Edmund Taverdian, between movement drills and touch butt

2183
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: in the park. And it lies between the pit of

2184
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 1: man's fear and the summit of his knowledge. This is

2185
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: the dimension of art and imagination, is an area we

2186
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: call the MK twilight zone. Very well done there, Jay,

2187
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: Next we have BC as Lord summer Isle in the

2188
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:06,679
Speaker 1: wicker the wicker Man, ready to burn down Pipples seven

2189
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 1: fight win streak. Look do you get this reference?

2190
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 2: I think this is from like the Outdoor Burning Man

2191
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: Festival or some shit. I'm not sure.

2192
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Next we have Paul B. C Bearer and

2193
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Luke Undertaker Thomas holding their lucky urn filled with the

2194
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 1: ashes of Pipples Championship run. Wow.

2195
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: It's when it's when the photoshops are both either amazingly

2196
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 2: good or amazingly shitty. That's that's the sweet spot right there.

2197
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and last, but certainly not Lease, why did y'all

2198
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 1: have to do this? I love Pipple, but we all

2199
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: know the curse is real, and his chances of winning

2200
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: on Saturday about the same chance as Ricky had at

2201
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 1: the end of Boys in the Hood. If you look

2202
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 1: closely enough, you can see the two donks taking him out,

2203
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean each Can you zoom in on that? Please?

2204
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: How am I the only one firing?

2205
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Fuck that? Wow? Ricky? I mean, dude, Ricky had that

2206
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: USC scholarship. He was really going places.

2207
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 2: Luke right, It's a pity.

2208
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 1: The only plus about his mom having the couches covered

2209
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: in the plastic is when they when when he bled

2210
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 1: all over it. At least at least the couch survived.

2211
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 2: Right, Luke. Yeah, A little wind clean that right up?

2212
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, that is rough stuff right there. Thank you

2213
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 1: Jay from Boston. Uh Segar slides in. He says, hey,

2214
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: gents love the show, especially Luke's ability to analyze fights

2215
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: in his command of the English language despite him being

2216
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 1: born in India. Ha ha, But BC, you, my friend,

2217
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: are the real gold medalist here. I'm one of your

2218
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: biggest fans. What the hell is going on here? This

2219
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: is that weird fellow that we sometimes uh oh yeah.

2220
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: Can we not get disturbing videos sent to us? Please?

2221
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I stopped putting this guy on. Have you seen

2222
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: this shit? Because it got weird? But thank you, saman

2223
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 1: Can we.

2224
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 2: Stop with the nightmare of fuel? Please?

2225
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: All right? Hey cg here, he says, BC checks out

2226
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 1: in art gallery.

2227
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 2: Wait. I was like, who am I k not gonna?

2228
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 2: Oh right? Okay, oh wow? I got it wrong. They

2229
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 2: got it wrong. It shouldn't have been Larta, it should

2230
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 2: have been uh Joanna, right, yeah?

2231
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 1: Or Antonina? Your choice there, Luke MK, all day, thank

2232
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: you very much. All right, Brian says, hey, donks, here's

2233
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: a little fansubmission. It has pained me that BC pulled

2234
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: this from his wall, but here's a little something for

2235
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: you guys. Shine on MK, Yes, Luke, a bunch of

2236
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: crazy diamonds. Indeed, look, the best album cover in rock history.

2237
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, it's pretty good.

2238
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 7: You know.

2239
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Why do you know why I love that album cover

2240
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: so much? Not just because the album is kick ass, badass,

2241
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 1: but Luke, that is us, right, like that, that's who

2242
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 1: we are. Right. I'm on fire, constantly on the verge

2243
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: of getting us burnt and fired. And you're the guy

2244
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: who's like, I can't believe I've extended my hand to this,

2245
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, professional friendship, next one? All right, Luke's got

2246
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: a crap. Here we go. Scott says, the Donks need

2247
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: one more resume.

2248
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Review, Kobe. I don't know if he qualifies. I don't

2249
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 2: know if he's done enough. But that's fucking hilarious.

2250
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a couple more here. Annamesh has more

2251
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: resume review curse memes for us. Yeah, how joke here, Luke.

2252
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: This is just a recap of everything you've done.

2253
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 2: Is a recap?

2254
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look at the after pictures, Luke.

2255
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: Yep, they're bad.

2256
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: You gotta hit Although.

2257
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 2: Son of all of them, Attasanya was what the only

2258
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 2: one who like he just lost but he didn't get.

2259
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 1: Like, no, he fought well too.

2260
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, fought well. All these other ones kind of got

2261
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 2: crushed a little bit.

2262
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, like absolutely crushed. Yeah, no doubt about it. All right.

2263
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: Jack says, Hey BC, the happy belated birthday from your

2264
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 1: fan down under in Melbourne. I thought this is how

2265
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: your conversation with Luke would have gone on your birthday

2266
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 1: if he had actually bothered to call you. Love the show,

2267
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: good luck with the podcast awards. I know it doesn't

2268
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 1: mean shit to Luke, but I'm sure it would to

2269
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: the people that bankroll you. I also have a dead wrong.

2270
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: I was hoping somebody would have surely senten now, but

2271
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: clearly not a lot of people watched the five Knockouts

2272
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: review of Dravante. It's your graphics department who stuffed up

2273
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: the final graphic in which it showed all the knockouts

2274
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: of Tank and they listed number one in five, both

2275
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: against Jose Padrasa. Okay, nobody cares about that. Thank you, though,

2276
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 1: for showing us that error. Luke. Let's see is this

2277
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: a video we got to check out here? What do

2278
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: we got?

2279
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2280
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: Can you read that.

2281
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 2: Conversation, Luke, hey BC on a scale of one to ten?

2282
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 2: How bad is your pain?

2283
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Pi? PI low level but never ending.

2284
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Well, we're both in credit washed white forty plus dads,

2285
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 2: so that's natural anyway. Happy birthday. Yeah, don't get into

2286
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: comedy writing, Jackie ye.

2287
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: All right, I don't get it, okay, Luke, David.

2288
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: Pie is the relationship between the circumference and the diameter

2289
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 2: of any circle three point one four one? Fine, thank

2290
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: you for that.

2291
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: I knew I know a pie is, Luke. I didn't

2292
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: know the meaning on this case, Okay, thank you. This

2293
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: is Damien from Stockton. Hey, fellas, I just started making memes.

2294
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. Let's see what we got here.

2295
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: That is sadly true, Luke, that is sadly true.

2296
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how bad of a tipper you were,

2297
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: and you were like unaware that you were bad.

2298
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, yeah, I'm getting better. In fact that

2299
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I overtipped this morning at the coffee place, I'm getting better, Luke.

2300
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay, good god.

2301
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: I was wrong my whole life when I was poor

2302
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't recognize people for their work. Okay, keep

2303
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 1: it going, keep it going. You taught me how to

2304
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 1: give the people that clean your room. You know, a

2305
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: couple of twenties.

2306
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2307
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Let's see what we got.

2308
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:04,680
Speaker 2: I can't read it. You gotta blow it up. It is.

2309
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 2: It is a tough choice.

2310
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: He really is well done there, Damo. All right, let's

2311
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: keep Damien going. What do we got?

2312
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2313
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Bullshit? You could doe.

2314
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, First of all, that's very funny. Second of all,

2315
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 2: I didn't say I was good, that I was tall.

2316
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: That's it, all right?

2317
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: What else we got here? That is true? Look, you

2318
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: took that way too personal. Not really.

2319
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 2: First of all, we were on set and he wasn't insane.

2320
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he was kind of mean to you, but

2321
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't like super mean.

2322
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 1: Look, he recreated that scene in Oz where the guy

2323
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 1: ships on the other guy's face. That's basically what happened.

2324
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a little strong. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: little strong. And uh, listen, you're a big boy, but

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Speaker 2: you just bringing up something thing out of nowhere to

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01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 2: ship on me. I think it's a little different.

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Speaker 1: But whatever, all right, all right? Is that it for Damien?

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01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 1: Or we got any more of these two O nine treats? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The last one?

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01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta say these are good jokes, these aren't them.

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01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 2: They're really funny.

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01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: Really, here's a guy who I haven't heard from in

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01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: a while, Scott m Rizzo Luke. Two bases, one cup.

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01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Remember that time we were doing air base on the

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01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 1: on the old MK Luke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, that is great.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Hey, Antoine, all six foot eight

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01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: of him from Alaska continues to send in picks wearing

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01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 1: our gear and in the Beauty of Nature. Look this

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01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: guy slays up there too.

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: It's amazing. The FBI hasn't caught him.

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01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: Yet for unibombing or for that time at the Capitol.

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01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 1: Look which one?

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01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a wonderful day in January.

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01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 1: That's all all right, hey, Luke Pennington. James a little

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01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 1: upset with me at at the pick that I showed

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01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 1: Uriah Hall that had nothing thing to do with martial arts,

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01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 1: so he sent in this one. Luke, this is Jay

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01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,799
Speaker 1: Aaron back in the day as a martial arts master

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01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: in northern New Jersey.

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01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I mean, just a complete pretender his entire life.

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01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: I'd love to see that. You know what Aaron Brownstetter's question,

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01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,640
Speaker 1: it should be you versus Prime j three rounds to

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01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: save your house?

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01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 2: Luke me yep, oh, I don't. I don't you know?

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01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,759
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do weekend at Bernie's for rounds

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01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 2: two and three?

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01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, I don't know who sent this in,

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01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 1: but but this is a BC pressor meme. Sorry for

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01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: for who I didn't give credit to.

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01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 2: Well's see how is not quite right because the hat

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01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 2: that they gave you is part of the scumbag meme? Yes,

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01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 2: which does it make sense for this one?

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01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Luke?

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01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: Final fans of This is from me. You know, I

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01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: don't get much use out of the uh the old

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01:50:56,479 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: versache robe anymore. But my dog Molly, Luke looking rate

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01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 1: and at your thoughts.

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01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 2: There are poor people starving all over the world and

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01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:11,480
Speaker 2: you're just dressing up your hound in versace fucking clothes. Unbelievable.

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01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 1: Look at her, She's amazing. She's the best. So shout

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01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 1: out to Molly the wonder dog right there. Thank you

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01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: for your fansub Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is

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Speaker 1: the home for that. That's all we got for shit

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Speaker 1: this week, Luke. You speaking of shit, you probably have

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Speaker 1: to go uh.

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01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. But those were good. I gotta say.

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01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do this segment. I'm like, they weren't that great?

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01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 2: They were good today. Man, we love death was good

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01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 2: today too, So yeah, I did yourself PC. Great job.

2383
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Remind everybody if you want to try showtime you can.

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01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 2: You can do that for free for thirty days. If

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01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 2: you like it, you can keep it. If not, blah

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01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 2: blah blah. But you guys know the drill. Let's see,

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01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 2: we're all over social Morning Combat's name is the same

2388
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 2: everywhere on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube, just you know,

2389
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 2: Morning Combat with a KBC and I have slightly different

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01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 2: names between Twitter and Instagram. We have a merch store.

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01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 2: You can go to Morningcombat dot store for some of

2392
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: the merch that you saw all of the various fans wearing.

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01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 2: If you haven't got your hands on those, you can

2394
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 2: do that. And yeah, morning Combat at gmail dot com

2395
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: for Friday's Dead Wrong or any subsequent fans that you

2396
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 2: may want to get into and then vote for us

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01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 2: and stuff anything else we see.

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01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: I hope that guy proposed today. I hope he did.

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01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: If you did, send us like some kind of you know,

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01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 2: aftermath or confirmation or something we want to know, we

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01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 2: want to know, it'll be cool. Well, so Garrett, sorry,

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01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 2: not sorry, kind of sorry.

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01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: We're not really that fun in Ecuador. Luke. Are you

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01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: heading to South America sometime? Luke?

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01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got a vacation coming up here pretty soon.

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 2: So I am looking forward to, uh getting the fuck

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Speaker 2: out of the.

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01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: All right, So so they we're gonna get a little

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: bit of Luke and guests BC and guests maybe get

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01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 1: a little mail bag. So please continue to send in

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Speaker 1: your mail bag questions right to the Apple podscam.

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01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, we're doing the Apple pod scam. You

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01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: can go to them. Let's see the Apple Podcasts review.

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01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Give us the review five star, and then leave a question.

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01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 2: We'll scan the system that way, but we'll also answer

2416
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 2: your questions for mailbag episodes.

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01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,839
Speaker 1: Look, should you go to South America and not return?

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: What do you want me to You can read your

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01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: will right now. What do you want me to do

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01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 1: with the show?

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01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: Burn it and collect the insurance money? I kind of

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01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 2: black with four flat tires. Just burn it and leave it.

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01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean BC and Hawani does have a does have

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01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 1: a nice ring to it? Right? It sounds like something, right?

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01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 2: You make it through? You to make it through three

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01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 2: shows before you quit? Let me all right?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right Canadians, thank you?

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, So we are out of here for today.

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01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 2: I will live chat tomorrow and then the preview for

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01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 2: the weekends fights on Friday. All right, uh for BC,

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01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 2: for Malka, for CBS Sports, for showtime on Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, May all of your gains be loyal