WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: Bovino Calls It Quits, Prairieland Trial, War on Iran Continues

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<v Speaker 1>Old Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Executive Dysphonia, a podcast about people who are

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<v Speaker 2>in executive positions but can't hear well. Right, isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>what the show we're doing is?

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<v Speaker 3>This is it could happen here executive disorder.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I guess I have Executive Dysphonia.

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<v Speaker 3>Our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Garrison Davis. That was Robert Evans, also joined by James Stout,

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<v Speaker 3>with a segment later on by Mia Wong. This episode

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<v Speaker 3>we are covering the week of March eleventh to March eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was wrong about dysphonia. That's just horseness.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well yeah, that probably are people in the executive

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<v Speaker 4>branch who who a horse?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, horse and wearing shoes too big for their feet.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to start by issuing an apology.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, a serious apology.

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<v Speaker 3>We have both failed you the odd send ourselves as

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<v Speaker 3>an outlet by neglecting to cover a story the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it deserves to. Last week we reported on the

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo wild wings Espresso proteini, that's right, and promised an

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<v Speaker 3>in depth report on the drink upon delivery this past weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>which was National Expresso Martini Day. And there I was Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>March fifteenth, on my phone googling to find the closest

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<v Speaker 3>Buffalo Wild Wings when I discovered that the Espressoproteini was

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<v Speaker 3>in fact only to be served in five cities.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Illinois, Georgia, Texas, and the Sea World location in Orlando, Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>And I failed myself and you by not traveling specifically

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<v Speaker 3>to the Sea World location to try the Espresso Proteini,

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<v Speaker 3>which would have been the correct choice, That would have

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<v Speaker 3>been the right to deliver the sort of coverage that

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<v Speaker 3>you expect out of us and deserve. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>take a while to win your trust back, and we

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<v Speaker 3>understand this, and we are we are hoping to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to demonstrate that to you in the coming in

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<v Speaker 3>the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett, this isn't all your fault. You know, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>years ago that we should have moved the entire production

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<v Speaker 2>team to the Buffalo Wild Wings at SeaWorld. This was

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<v Speaker 2>a foreseeable mistake. Yeah, you know, Sophie and I are

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<v Speaker 2>to blame for this as well. Is all I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>and we apologize then.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, as a British person in the sea World location

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<v Speaker 4>in Orlando, Florida is our spiritual home, so that really

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<v Speaker 4>should have been at the very center of my bee.

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine how much more sunburnt you could be every

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<v Speaker 2>single day we record this podcast, James.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be I'm wearing a red shirt right now

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<v Speaker 4>for this, but you could probably never tell if I

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<v Speaker 4>lived in Orlando, Florida, if I was wearing a red

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<v Speaker 4>shirt or just had extensive sunburns.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So yeah, let's go over some small news ite ofs.

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<v Speaker 3>Meta is shutting down. It's VR Metaverse Worlds.

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<v Speaker 4>On June fifteenth, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuck being named Metah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the Horizon. Worlds continued to exist as a

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<v Speaker 3>mobile phone only application. The metaverse portion is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be sunseted. Like I said on the fifteenth of June.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be on there in June fourteenth, thrown up to

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<v Speaker 4>till midnight. Just it's enjoying my final moments of beauty.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a SeaWorld Orlando that I can visit in

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<v Speaker 4>the Metaverse? I bet there was too soon, James, too soon.

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<v Speaker 4>In the United District of Illinois, Evanston Mayor, Daniel Biss

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<v Speaker 4>beat Kat Abagazzali and Laura Fine. This one over thirty

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand votes. Cat won over thirty one thousand votes

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<v Speaker 4>and find the APAC back to candidate to got twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know it's a It was a. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a really impressive first campaign from Kat, who's a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. We're proud of her and her whole team.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah that's politics baby under the next thing, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Columbia student Laka Cordella was released from ice custody after

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<v Speaker 3>over a year in detention after government lawyers declined to

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<v Speaker 3>appeal a judge's third release order. Her name was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the four on the list that Marmon Donnie gave

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<v Speaker 3>to Trump during their last meeting.

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<v Speaker 4>Cuba is facing another blackout amidst its aging infrastructure in

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<v Speaker 4>a United States enforced blockade on the country. It has

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<v Speaker 4>been running largely on thermoelectric sola and natural gas sources

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<v Speaker 4>of electricity as imports from Venezuela have ceased. The United

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<v Speaker 4>States has threatened to tariff anybody sending oil to Cuba,

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<v Speaker 4>but on Sunday, Claudia Scheinenbaum, President of Mexico did say

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<v Speaker 4>that Mexico would continue to send aid to the Caribbean nation.

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<v Speaker 4>Also checking in on the show shields the Americas, which

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<v Speaker 4>we mentioned last week, Gustavo Petro, President of Columbia, has

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<v Speaker 4>responded to what is to be an Ecuadorian bomb falling

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<v Speaker 4>on Columbia. So we are a couple of weeks into

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<v Speaker 4>this and Ecuador's already bombed the wrong country. Oh good,

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<v Speaker 4>not great. It was an area very close to the border.

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<v Speaker 4>But Petro posted today on egg dot com, the everything website.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm blighted by the fact that groc thinks it can

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<v Speaker 4>speak Spanish better than meat. So I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 4>read whatever this shitty translation is. I suppose it has

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<v Speaker 4>been confirmed that the bomb in Colombian territory belongs to

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<v Speaker 4>the Ecuadorian Army. The investigation continues and a diplomatic protest

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<v Speaker 4>note will be sent. So yeah, that's Ecuador playing with

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<v Speaker 4>fire there. Yeah, finally PBS is reporting today. Then an

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<v Speaker 4>offer is on the table from the White House to

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<v Speaker 4>end the shutdown. I'm just going to read I guess

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<v Speaker 4>the terms that have been offered by the White House.

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<v Speaker 4>So the first one would be the expansion in the

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<v Speaker 4>use of body worn cameras by DHS law enforcement, and

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<v Speaker 4>they will increase congressional oversight by requiring retention of body

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<v Speaker 4>worn camera footage. The next one they would limit civil

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<v Speaker 4>immigration enforcement at certain sensitive locations. They go on to

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<v Speaker 4>say sensitive locations include places like hospitals and schools, which

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<v Speaker 4>is current practice. There were other places that were considered

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<v Speaker 4>sensitive locations previously, not to be churches, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a definitive list, and I don't does it mean

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<v Speaker 4>they will return to the old senstive places doctrine. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a little unclear. Yeah. They talk again about increasing congressional oversight,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly by creating mandatory review and compliance reporting from the

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<v Speaker 4>Spectro General of DHS. They talk about visible officer identification

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<v Speaker 4>and the administration would require officers to clearly verbalize their

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<v Speaker 4>agency and identification upon request when engaged official duties. And

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<v Speaker 4>then finally, they will adhere to existing practices of law

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<v Speaker 4>and practice of not deporting US citizens. And then they

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<v Speaker 4>go and say they only detain them of a crime

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<v Speaker 4>has taken place. Some of these appear like concessions, but

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<v Speaker 4>they kind of only matter in so much as you

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<v Speaker 4>trust them. They've always got like even the sensitive places

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<v Speaker 4>has an exemption for like a terrorist threat, given that,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, it was suggested very shortly after Alex Pretty

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<v Speaker 4>was killed that he was a terrorist attempting to kill offices, etc. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>none of this matters, and like it's still going to

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<v Speaker 4>be this is we are pleasing ourselves, right, So perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>we should move on talking of DHS, Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 4>Friend of the Podcast, Gregory Bovino.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Greg, Oh, Greg Gregy b.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's been a frequent frequent call zone all across

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<v Speaker 4>the cool Zone universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, friend of the Pod. But no, nothing Gold can

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<v Speaker 2>stay you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Nope, and sadly Greg cannot stay at his job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it'd be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Even before Trump took office, he was talking about retiring

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<v Speaker 2>in like two years, Like he's been talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's this is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Like super weird, but the timing of it is earlier

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<v Speaker 2>than he'd previously talked about wanting to do. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think pretty undeniably connected to you know, him being made

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<v Speaker 2>the sacrificial bond of the regime.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the fact that he he for instance said

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<v Speaker 4>shortly after Alex Pretty was killed by CBP agents, a

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty was planning to quote massacre agents. We have seen

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<v Speaker 4>no evidence that that is true.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>He's currently the chief patrol agent of the El Centro sector. Previously,

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<v Speaker 4>he was CBP's commander at large of its interior enforcement operations.

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<v Speaker 4>That he was removed from that job in late January.

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<v Speaker 4>He gave an exclusive interview to bright Bot News. But

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<v Speaker 4>have a former Board patrol agent who writes for him,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm guessing that's why saying quote, watching these agents

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<v Speaker 4>out there giving it they're all in some of the

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<v Speaker 4>most dangerous of environments we have ever faced, was humbling cool.

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<v Speaker 4>He will be retiring just a few days after his

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<v Speaker 4>fifty sixth birthday. The agency's mandatory requirement ages fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've seen a lot of places citing that that

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<v Speaker 4>applies to offices hired after the middle of two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and eight, but Vino was hired in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 4>But at fifty five, with thirty years of service, he

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<v Speaker 4>would be eligible for optional retirement under the FERS. He

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<v Speaker 4>hasn't reached some minimum retirement age, so I think that

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<v Speaker 4>would impact the amount of retirement he gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, Oh yeah, yeah, he usually does, unless they

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<v Speaker 2>make a special exception. For him or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because previously, right, like previously, border patrol agents were

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<v Speaker 4>essentially hired. It's like federal employees or civil servants. It

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<v Speaker 4>was only after two thousand and eight that they're hiring

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<v Speaker 4>I guess came slow, slightly more in line with people

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<v Speaker 4>in the armed services, for instance, or police and so

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<v Speaker 4>like under first you'd have to do the thirty years

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<v Speaker 4>plus reach the minimum retirement age, versus under the newer

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<v Speaker 4>system when they have a mandatory retirement of fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel like this, plus Gnome, plus the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that you've mentioned up top Garrison, it suggests that the

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<v Speaker 4>tides are perhaps turning. Plus this, we've seen Republican sheriffs

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<v Speaker 4>in Florida opposing mass deportations this week, right, we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>Republican congress people making public statements about this. We are

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<v Speaker 4>probably beginning to see the beginning of the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the right being in lockstep behind mass deportations. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that means with going to see the end of

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<v Speaker 4>ice raids. I don't think that means we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>see the end no, of massive detention and of massive deportation.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's clearly as we are looking towards the midterms,

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<v Speaker 4>something that some parts of the Republican Party want to

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<v Speaker 4>distance themselves from.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's movement on this, and it shows that these

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<v Speaker 3>forces are fluid in can actually be changed through taking

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<v Speaker 3>like agency, like through through through imparting yourself upon the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's happened in Minneapolis for those for those weeks

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<v Speaker 3>to to, you know, months, showed that the world actually

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<v Speaker 3>can be changed through through mass action.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like like border patrol and ice went to Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 4>to fight, and it seems like they came off worse, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they were not able to subdue the city in

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<v Speaker 4>a meaningful way, and it has resulted in most of

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<v Speaker 4>their leadership being removed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to talk a little bit about something

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened this week that I kind of I felt

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<v Speaker 2>a deep sense of foreboding reading this article. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to sound like this is another piece of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Israel Palestine reporting, but it's really not. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>where this particular story is set. But we're we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about something that's going to be an increasing factor in

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<v Speaker 2>the lives of everyone gathering news and everybody consuming it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is poly market our gamble on everything happening in

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<v Speaker 2>the world app that apparently the world needed for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So on Tuesday, March tenth, twenty twenty six, as hostilities

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<v Speaker 2>continued between Iran and Israel, a ballistic missile got past

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's defense systems and landed in near the city of

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<v Speaker 2>bait Chemesh, just outside of Jerusalem. It did not land

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<v Speaker 2>near anything, but it looks like trees you can see.

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<v Speaker 2>There is video captured of the explosion and posted by

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<v Speaker 2>a journalist named Immanuel fabian oh Ye, who wrote with

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<v Speaker 2>his post, no injuries are reported in our end's latest

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<v Speaker 2>ballistic missile attack on Israel. The fourth to day one

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<v Speaker 2>missile struck an open area just outside bite Schemesh, first

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<v Speaker 2>responders say, and footage shows, and the footage doesn't show

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<v Speaker 2>a ballistic missile impacting. There is an explosion. This does

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<v Speaker 2>not look like fragments of a missile that were taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, based on what I know of ballistic missiles,

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<v Speaker 2>and based on what people who I know no more

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<v Speaker 2>than me know about ballistic missiles, this was an intact

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<v Speaker 2>ballistic missile hitting. It didn't hit a target that was valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't hurt anybody as far as we're aware, but

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<v Speaker 2>it got through the missile shield and a hit in

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli territory. Normally you would wonder, like, why does this this?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this matters, you know if you're a local reporter, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but why would anyone else care? Well, the day after

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<v Speaker 2>Manny Fabian posted this video and this brief bit of reporting,

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<v Speaker 2>he started receiving emails, weird emails, mostly in Hebrew, and like,

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<v Speaker 2>here's one example from Times of Israel piece that he wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for reaching out without a prior introduction, but I

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<v Speaker 2>assume we will get to know each other well. I

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<v Speaker 2>have an urgent request regarding the accuracy of your report

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<v Speaker 2>on the missile attack on March tenth. I would really

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate a response if possible. There is an inaccurate report

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<v Speaker 2>from you about the missile attack on March tenth, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's causing a chain of errors. If you could reply

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<v Speaker 2>to me tonight, you would be helping me, many others

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the state of Israel, and along the

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<v Speaker 2>way you would gain a good source.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fuck is going if you're this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>All you did was.

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<v Speaker 2>Post, oh, hey, a rocket hit, but it didn't hit anything, Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>not a big deal given the state of the war.

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<v Speaker 2>And he starts getting spammed with a bunch of similar

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<v Speaker 2>emails like this, And in addition to that, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>people like on Twitter responding saying like hey, One person

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<v Speaker 2>responded to one of his posts saying, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>saying they've received word from you that the missile strike

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<v Speaker 2>in Baite Schamesh on March tenth was in fact intercepted.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this true or did no such interaction occur? So

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<v Speaker 2>people start posting and sharing in other places that oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I reached out to this guy and he said the

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<v Speaker 2>missile was actually intercepted and it was just a piece

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<v Speaker 2>that fell, and he reported it wrong, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>at all what this guy had reported. So he's really confused.

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<v Speaker 2>He has like, why are all these people bugging me

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<v Speaker 2>about this very minor story and why are they spreading

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<v Speaker 2>disinformation claiming that I debunked my own star when I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The obvious reason why is that people that day on

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<v Speaker 2>Polymarket on March tenth were gambling on when Iran would

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<v Speaker 2>strike Israel. There were fourteen million dollars wager that there

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<v Speaker 2>would be a strike on March tenth. The rules of

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<v Speaker 2>the bet per polymarket stated, this market will resolve to

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<v Speaker 2>yes if Iran initiates a drone, missile or airstrike on

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<v Speaker 2>Israel soil on the listed date in Israel time GMT

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<v Speaker 2>plus two. Otherwise, this market will resolve no. Missiles or

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<v Speaker 2>drones that are intercepted will not be sufficient for a

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<v Speaker 2>yes resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why fourteen million dollars was in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>It's people who had a lot of money on this event.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, specifically, And these people don't care if anyone

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<v Speaker 2>is right. They don't care that a missile was fired.

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<v Speaker 2>All they care about is whether or not the missile

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<v Speaker 2>made it through the defense network intact, right, because these

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<v Speaker 2>were people who I guess had bet against that because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want that to be the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He initially ignores these weird emails, and they start getting

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<v Speaker 2>more and more aggressive, and people are like, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna update the article, Daniel, Daniel, update the article. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to update the article. You know you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And after the weekend he starts getting messages like you

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<v Speaker 2>have exactly half an hour to correct your attempted influence,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that you receive countless inquiries you insist

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<v Speaker 2>on leaving it this way. If you do not correct

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<v Speaker 2>this by one am Israel time today March fifteenth, you

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<v Speaker 2>are bringing upon yourself damage you have never imagined you

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<v Speaker 2>would suffer.

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<v Speaker 4>That's already easer if I've ever seen one.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a bunch of shit like this. Someone said,

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<v Speaker 2>after you make us lose nine hundred thousand dollars, we

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<v Speaker 2>will invest no less than that to finish you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is insane, Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's inevitable if you think about how polymarket works, right

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<v Speaker 2>that once people are putting fortunes on the line around

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<v Speaker 2>stupid shit, you know, like betting whether or not, oh

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<v Speaker 2>the missile make it through or not on this That

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<v Speaker 2>is dumb, right, missiles and stuff that's very serious to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who live in the region. But

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<v Speaker 2>betting on it this way is fundamentally stupid. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>all poly Market's all stupid bets like this, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to increase inly come after people once they realize, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I can actually change and get a winning resolution

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever if I harass the journalist on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a vested financial interest in going after people over

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like this. So this particular story is happening in

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<v Speaker 2>Israel involves the reporting of an Israeli journalist. This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to stay limited to that conflict or to that

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<v Speaker 2>region of the world. This is going to be thing

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<v Speaker 2>that journalists all over the world increasingly deal with. This

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<v Speaker 2>is an important story and one that I think says

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty bleak shit about the immediate future of news

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<v Speaker 2>gathering in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>On the upside, Polymarket is about to open a splashy

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<v Speaker 2>new bar in Washington, DC called the Situation Room, and

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<v Speaker 2>I found Polymarket made a post on their substack in

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<v Speaker 2>which they announced this, saying, the world's first bar dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>to monitoring the situation. Imagine a sports bar, but just

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<v Speaker 2>for situation monitoring live Xpeeds, flight radar, Bloomberg terminals and

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<v Speaker 2>Polymarket screens. Grand opening this Friday. Imagine the first response.

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<v Speaker 3>This is every bar in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>First response is just someone saying, drink your way through

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<v Speaker 2>World War three, which just also every.

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<v Speaker 4>Bar in Washington, DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, someone else says this seems awful, but I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that perfectly aligns with your company in general.

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<v Speaker 4>Get on that passion.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh cool? Yeah, So I love poly market. It's good

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<v Speaker 2>that this is what we've turned society into. No notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll just add this to the list of things

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<v Speaker 3>that prediction markets will destabilize geopolitically. Yeah great, not just

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<v Speaker 3>the insider trading problems of people with you know, beforehand

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge of military strikes or certain world events, but trying

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<v Speaker 3>to influence the reporting of events to sway polymarket or

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<v Speaker 3>how she's decision on whether whether the market was correctly fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, interesting and yeah, foreboding.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, so yeah, here's some ads. You build the animals.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back. Here's some James. You've built the animals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lucky you. First you want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court, and then I'm going to throw to Garrison

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about some other court stuff. This is our

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<v Speaker 4>court segment. The Supreme Court has schedule cases for the TPS.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a temporary protected status pertaining to Syria and Haiti

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<v Speaker 4>for April, meaning these statuses will remain in effect, likely

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<v Speaker 4>until the end of June or July. The justices didn't

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<v Speaker 4>alter the position of the New York and DC judges,

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<v Speaker 4>who indefinitely postpone the termination of the TPS. The Trump

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<v Speaker 4>administration has hustled really hard to get this to the

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme Court. They first tried to get the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>to let them remove people while it waited to weigh

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<v Speaker 4>in on the case, and then they tried to get

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court to take the case before the second

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<v Speaker 4>Circuit had a chance to weigh in. This is called

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<v Speaker 4>thirty or right before judgment. Is how the case got

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<v Speaker 4>to the Supreme Court. This, I should note it's different

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<v Speaker 4>from the Venezuela case where the TPS was terminated because

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers are much smaller, and therefore it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be harder for the US government to show harm. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>it pertains to thirty forty thousand people, If I had

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<v Speaker 4>to guess. By contrast, it's very easy for people to

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<v Speaker 4>show potential harm in Haiti or Syria. Right, just to

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<v Speaker 4>give an example of Syria, that has been violence directed

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<v Speaker 4>against Alavites, Dru's people and Kurds largely unimpeded by the

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<v Speaker 4>government since a sad fell last year, and Syria remains

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<v Speaker 4>on the State Departments do not travel list. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>had some stuff about prairie Land. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>share in it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, let's talk about the prairie Land trial. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be doing a more in depth episode next week.

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<v Speaker 3>The started next week on prairie Land. It's about double

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<v Speaker 3>the length of today's summary, but I do want to

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<v Speaker 3>go over some essential information about the trial that concluded

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<v Speaker 3>last week. So last week, the Trump administration got their

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<v Speaker 3>first conviction in an antifoot heroism case. On Friday, March thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>eight people were convicted by a federal grand jury on

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<v Speaker 3>charges of riot, conspiracy to use and carry an explosive,

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<v Speaker 3>and providing material support to terrorists. One of the defendants

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<v Speaker 3>was convicted of attempted murder of a police officer, and

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<v Speaker 3>another person was convicted onto accounts of concealing documents, bringing

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<v Speaker 3>the total number of federal defendants to nine. This case

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<v Speaker 3>stemmed from the defense argued was a noise demonstration protest

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<v Speaker 3>outside of an ice attention facility in prairie Land, Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>last summer. On the night of July fourth, After protesters

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<v Speaker 3>through fireworks and vandalized property, DHS personnel called local police

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<v Speaker 3>for assistance. One officer arrived, drew his handgun and yelled

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<v Speaker 3>stop at a person in all black clothes who was

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<v Speaker 3>running away. One of the defendants, named Benjamin Song, then

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<v Speaker 3>yelled get to the rifles before firing toward the officer

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<v Speaker 3>with an air of fifteen, hitting him in the neck.

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<v Speaker 3>A week into the trial, US District Court Judge Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Pittman ruled at defense attorneys could not argue that the defendants,

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<v Speaker 3>including the accused shooter, were acting in self defense or

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<v Speaker 3>the defense of others against unlawful force just because the

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<v Speaker 3>officer had already drawn and pointed his handgun before Song fired.

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<v Speaker 3>Prosecutors compared this to Waco. Judge Pittman ruled that the

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<v Speaker 3>officer drawing and pointing his handgun at a fleeing suspect

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<v Speaker 3>is not quote unquote excessive as a matter of law

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<v Speaker 3>because as the officer did not actually use deadly force

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<v Speaker 3>or shoot first, and he listed three federal precedents for this,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get into this action and the role of Antifa

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<v Speaker 3>in the court case. This action was originally planned on

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<v Speaker 3>the encrypted messaging app Signal and via an in person

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote gear check meeting the day before the action.

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<v Speaker 3>Benjamin Song advertised the action in a larger group chat

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<v Speaker 3>of dozens of quote unquote trusted individuals. When asked about

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<v Speaker 3>bringing firearms. During action planning, Song repeatedly stated I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going back to prison, I'm not getting arrested. I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 3>guns unquote. So the trial, Song was characterized as the

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<v Speaker 3>de facto leader of the Antifa cell or affinity group,

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<v Speaker 3>but he did not have a close relationship with all

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<v Speaker 3>fellow defendants. At the gear check meeting on July third,

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<v Speaker 3>Song proposed to free detainees using quote unquote suppressive fire,

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<v Speaker 3>but this idea was shot down by others meeting attendees.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the defendants attended a daytime protest outside the

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<v Speaker 3>ice facility earlier that day, on July fourth, after which

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<v Speaker 3>they reported back to fellow defendants details regarding the facility

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<v Speaker 3>security prior to the nighttime action. Two defendants were neither

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<v Speaker 3>in these planning chats nor attended the gear check meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>but all of defendants that attended the protest carpooled in

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<v Speaker 3>two vehicles, bringing a total of eleven firearms, body armor,

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<v Speaker 3>eye facts, and all war black block which were all

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<v Speaker 3>presented as government evidence exhibits. The government argued that the

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<v Speaker 3>defendants were members of a quote unquote North Texas and

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<v Speaker 3>TIFA cell. The indictment describes Antifa as a quote militant

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<v Speaker 3>enterprise made up of networks of individuals and small groups

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<v Speaker 3>primarily ascribing to a revolutionary, anarchist or autonomous Marxist ideology

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<v Speaker 3>which explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States government,

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement authorities, and the system of law on Prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>argued that this cell was linked through a triple ven

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<v Speaker 3>diagram of the Socialist Rifle Association, the John Brown Gun Club,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Emma Goldman Book Club, which is a local

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<v Speaker 3>Zene Destro group that also put on community events. Prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>said that this ven diagram converged on quote unquote direct

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<v Speaker 3>militant action. The government called on David Kyle Sheeter as

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<v Speaker 3>an expert witness to testify about Antifa. Cheter's a member

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<v Speaker 3>of the Center for Security Policy, an SPLC designated hate group.

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<v Speaker 3>Defense tried to object to this witness's expertise, but the

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<v Speaker 3>judge informed the defense that they missed the deadline for

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<v Speaker 3>such objections, which would have been in a pre trial motion.

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<v Speaker 3>Much of this case was spent arguing over whether the

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<v Speaker 3>defendants were quote unquote antifa, what that even means, and

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<v Speaker 3>if it's relevant to the charges. According to Prairie Land,

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<v Speaker 3>support Committee court notes. Judge Pittman asked the prosecution, quote

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<v Speaker 3>is it necessary to prove this stuff about Antifa? The

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution responded that Antifa ideology, particularly black Block, was how

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the group operated. The judge pressed, whether it's Antifa or

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>the Methodist Women's Auxiliary, why does it matter? The prosecution

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 3>argued they took direct action against the ice facility. The

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 3>prosecution argued black Block and Antifa ideology were central to

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 3>how the alleged attack was carried out.

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 4>Quote.

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>The government described black Block for the purposes of this

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 3>case as quote dark clothing with head and face coverings

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 3>that concealed their identities, designed to hide each individual's identity,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 3>but also aid in a bet those members engaged in

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 3>illegal acts by making members indistinguishable from one another to

0:26:56.040 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 3>law enforcement. Now, all of this raises the question whether

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 3>this prosecution is against the defendant's political ideology or the

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>specific criminal acts of throwing fireworks or shooting at a

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>police officer, rather than being convicted of being members of

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Antifa the terrorist group, something that still doesn't really have

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>legal precedent. Prosecutors argued that the Antifa ideology, left wing

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.879
<v Speaker 3>anti authoritarianism, played a role in inspiring defendants formed the

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 3>basis of political affinity that brought the collection of individuals

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 3>together and relates to a collection of security practices, subcultural practices,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and associated tactics which were employed before, during, and after

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the criminal acts related to the Noise Demo protest. There's

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 3>been a lot of reporting on people being convicted for

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 3>possessing zines. These are short political pamphlets, usually with some

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of radical political ideology. There's a lot of anarchist

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 3>zines out there now. Zines did play a role in

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 3>this trial, a two part role. Prosecution argued that the

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 3>presence of insurrectionary zines is indicative of an alignment with Antifa,

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 3>even if possession of these zines itself is not a crime.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 3>The other relevancy of zines to this case relates to

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 3>the concealing documents charges against Daniel Ronaldo Sanchez Estrada and

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 3>his wife Marcela Roeda, based on transporting a box of

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 3>political zines from his wife's house to a friend's house

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>in dent In, Texas. The government claimed that Rieda called

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Sanchez Estrada from jail on July sixth, instructing him to

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 3>conceal evidence by telling her husband to tow her vehicle,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 3>which was at the action staging site. Quote toe it.

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>My phone is in the back. Do what you got

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to do. Just toe it unquote. The defense claimed that

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 3>she was worried about her car being repoed Centre's Estrada

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 3>never got to the car or the phone, but Raeda

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 3>also said, quote move whatever you need to move in

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>the house unquote. Sanchacestrada mentioned already being at the house

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 3>and replied, we're good quote unquote, in reference to moving

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>stuff from the house. Prosecution argued this meant moving evidence.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Defense noted that Raeda was talking about her pets at

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 3>the time. According to support committee notes, Sanchizstrada and his wife,

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Rida were found guilty of conspiracy to conceal documents and

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 3>other objects that would implicate Reeda in the riot and

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 3>shooting at the Prairie Land Facility. Now Nine of the counts,

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>count one, two, four, and five through ten cited Pinkerton versus.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>United States, nineteen forty six. The judge explained to the

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:58.239
<v Speaker 3>jury that a defendant can be criminally liable for the

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 3>offenses committed by a another co conspirator if the offense

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 3>was quote reasonably foreseeable and committed in furtherance of the

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy unquote. From very early on in the trial, prosecution

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 3>argued that song firing on the officers was quote unquote

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>reasonably foreseeable based on the planning of the protest and

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>previous statements made by Song. The jury found all defendants

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>charged guilty of counts one, two, three, and four that's riot,

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>material support, terrorists, and explosive charges, but did not find

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 3>other defendants besides Song, guilty of attempted murder or discharging

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 3>a firearm using this Pinkerton co conspirator liability. Lastly, let's

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 3>discuss two charges which now could carry worrying potential to

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 3>be used against protesters in the future based on this

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 3>case's precedent. First conspiracy to use and carry an explosive

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 3>and using and carrying an explosive during a riot. The

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 3>only explosives used were fireworks, and even the judge confirmed

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>in this case that it was established that the fireworks

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>caused no damage to the ice facility. Yet Stephen Brenneman

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>and ats explosives a special agent testified that fireworks still

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>meet the statutory definition of explosives under eighteen USC. Section

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 3>eight four four IJ because they contain gunpowder as defined

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 3>in the statute. Me and Robert have been to and

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>reported on a fourth of July protest also in front

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 3>of a government building back in twenty twenty, where people

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 3>launched a lot of fireworks up at that federal courthouse.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>A lot of fireworks and other places.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 3>And this was a very similar event with the launching

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>of fireworks at federal property, which now under this president

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>could be charged as a crime. Finally, let's talk about

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 3>providing material support to terrorists. That's eighteen Usc. Two three

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 3>three nine. This statute has two sections. One relates to

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>material support provided to a designated foreign terrorist organization. This

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 3>is not what the defendants were charged under. They're not

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>saying that Antifa qualifies as one of these designated foreign

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>terrorist organizations. That's not what's being argued here. The defendants

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 3>were charged under Section A, alleging they provided and attempted

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>to provide material support and resources including property that can

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 3>be money, services, training, communications, equipment like walkie talkies, weapons, explosives,

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 3>personnel including themselves, and transportation, knowing and intending that they

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 3>were to be used in preparation for and in carrying

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>out an offence identified as a federal crime of terrorism

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>or in carrying out the concealment of an escape from

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 3>set offense. The statute lists at least twenty eight possible

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>terrorism offenses. Relevant to this case are three eighteen Usc.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Eight four to four f It's maliciously attempting to damage

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 3>government property by means of fire or an explosive fireworks

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>count eighteen Usc. One three sixty one, willful depredation against

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>any property of the United States exceeding one thousand dollars.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>This is property damaged by other means exceeding that one

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars threshold, and eighteen Usc. One one four killing

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 3>or attempting to kill any officer or employee of the

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 3>United States. The government accused the defendants of providing material

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>support to terrorists in these three different ways, but to convict,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>the jury only had to decide there was proof beyond

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 3>reasonable doubt on one of these ways. They didn't need

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 3>all three.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 4>To quote.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 3>The jury instructions quote if a defendant's speech, expression, or

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 3>associations were made with intent to knowingly provide material support

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 3>or resources to be used to prepare for or carry

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 3>out a violation of federal law. Or to carry out

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>the concealment of an escape from such violation, then the

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 3>First Amendment would not provide a defense to that conduct unquote.

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Benjamin's song now faces a minimum penalty of twenty years

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 3>and a maximum of life imprisonment. Other defendants at Prairie

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Land to face sentences ranging from a minimum of ten

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>years to up to sixty years in federal prison, and

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>the husband convicted of concealing documents faces up to forty

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 3>years in federal prison.

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a very bleak case and I don't

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>really have much to add. It's very sad.

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, and it's worth understanding the specific way they're

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>using this material support statute. Yeah, just establishing someone is

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 3>a member of quote unquote Antifa is not really what

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 3>they're going after. But they're using Antifa as this way

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.959
<v Speaker 3>to link the defendants through this ideological unity to show

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>that there's a conspiracy, some kind of like political conspiracy

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 3>then could tied to offenses that are terrorism, like damaging

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 3>government property with the intent to influence or intimidate government policy. Right,

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 3>That's that's the sort of framing that was used in

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 3>the guilty Please for some other former defendants of this case,

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.040
<v Speaker 3>and that's what the government is trying to argue. Here.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna go on a break and return for one

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 3>final segment touching on the economy and.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 5>Iran as Brocky jazz Bod sarryl as Locking jaz Bond.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 7>Let's check in with the Strait of Frameuse, where things

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 7>are going extremely poorly for the US, Israel and every

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 7>country in the world that relies on oil and liquefied

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 7>natural gas, as well as helium fertilizer and a whole bunch

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 7>of other exports. All attempts to actually open the strait

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 7>have failed. Now, Iran has still been shipping a decent

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 7>amount of oil out to some extent, They've been able

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 7>to send their own tankers through and the US and

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 7>Israel have not attacked them thus far. Now there has

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 7>been some developments in terms of attempts to open the strait.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 7>Israel claimed they would help reopened the strait. We also

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 7>got a report in Reuters that Britain, France, Germany, Italy,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 7>the Netherlands and Japan have agreed to help open the strait.

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 7>This is a kind of weird group of countries. It

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 7>is the G seven, which is the good group of seven,

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 7>which is a very sort of influential group of American allies.

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 7>But it's the G seven minus Canada with the Netherlands

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 7>in its place, which is sort of odd. Now, this

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 7>is not going to do anything to actually open the straits.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.439
<v Speaker 7>There are two reasons for this. One is that none

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 7>of these countries have actually committed to do anything other

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 7>than quote, to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 7>passage through the Strait and start quote preparatory planning, which

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 7>means absolutely nothing. And the second reason is that if

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 7>all of these countries, you know, put every single naval

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 7>asset at the disposal for some reason, to put all

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 7>of them in the street and four news, it wouldn't

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 7>do anything to actually open the strait. There's a good

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 7>piece and defector about this called Trump to World, Please

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 7>help Me unshoot my own leg off, where the author

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 7>Albert Burneco points out, and I think this is a

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 7>very useful way of understanding the problem here that these

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 7>oil tankers are the size of skyscrapers. They're not getting

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 7>oil takers do the straight as long as a Runlet's

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.879
<v Speaker 7>do this. Every week I say this, and every week

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 7>a bunch of people go, oh, they're gonna open the

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 7>straight ooh do do do?

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 4>There's all these pre cycles, and.

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 7>Like the stock market, oil prices go down and the

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 7>stock market goes up, and then everyone collectively realizes it's

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 7>not true, and then the herd animals go back to

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 7>raising the stock prices. So this leaves us in the

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 7>same situation we were before, except everything has gotten significantly

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 7>worse because on Wednesday, Israel hit the largest natural gas

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 7>field in the world when they attacked Iran's South Pars

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 7>gas field. Now, as political points out, these are the

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 7>fields that fueled Iran's domestic energy grate, which means any

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 7>hit to them is extremely painful because it means that

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 7>people lose like heat and power. Now, Trump did very

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 7>quickly make an extremely funny post that is sadly too

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 7>long to read here begging Iron not to attack Cotter

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 7>or saying the US didn't know anything about it and

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 7>that Cotter didn't have anything to do with the strike.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 7>There's been a bunch of contradictory information. Netanyahu has claimed

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 7>publicly now that the US didn't know anything about the

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 7>strike in Israel unilaterally. There's also been reports that the

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 7>US knew it was going to happen this whole The

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 7>US didn't know anything about it. Please don't hit Cotter.

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 7>Seems to be a kind of pr strategy on their part.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.800
<v Speaker 7>It didn't work. Iran ignored it and retaliated on Thursday

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 7>by hitting Cotter's massive liquid natural gas processing facility. This

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 7>is one of the largest facilities in the world for

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 7>liquid natural gas, of which Catter is one of the

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 7>world's largest suppliers. I think they're the second largest of

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 7>liquid natural gas. I'm going to read this from Brouiters

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 7>because this is what the straight laced analysts are saying now. Quote,

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 7>we are now well on the road to the doomsday

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 7>gas crisis scenario, said Saul Kavona, can energy analyst at

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 7>MST Financial. Even once the war ends, the disruption to

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 7>liquid natural gas supply could last for months or even years.

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 7>Raiders got some statements from Catter's State natural gas firm

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 7>saying that they had lost seventeen percent of their total

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 7>export capacity and that was destroyed for three to five years.

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 7>That is catastrophic for significant parts of the economy worldwide.

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 7>As we are going to talk about in a second,

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 7>all of this is also happening in the context of

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 7>Trump's threats to destroy carg Islands, which is where ninety

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 7>percent of Iran's oil imports flow through, which would likewise

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 7>be absolutely catastrophic for the Iranian economy because it would

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 7>take a significant amount of time to repair. However, Comma,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 7>these are all kind of empty threats. Well, when I

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 7>say empty threats, I don't mean that the US or

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 7>Israel won't do it. I mean that it doesn't solve

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 7>the problem. Because the problem with any threat you can

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 7>make against Iran is like you already killed the Iyatola,

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 7>Like what else are you going to do? Right, you

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 7>can completely destroy Iran's economic capacity for a significant period

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 7>of time. But if you do that, then the Iranian

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 7>government is still just going to not open the strait. Right,

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 7>the more you attack them, the more incentive they have

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 7>to continue to retaliate. And that's what's going to happen

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.800
<v Speaker 7>if you continue this campaign, which it seems like the

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 7>US and Israel are determined to do. They're just holding

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 7>all this talk about like revenger to do phase of

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:06.479
<v Speaker 7>the war, and the war is going to now last

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 7>like several months longer. And again, the problem here is

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:11.959
<v Speaker 7>that the more that you attack critical infrastructure inside Iran,

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 7>the more that the Runian government gives less of a

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 7>shit about again destroying significant portions of the world's natural

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 7>gas supply, or hitting more oil facilities or you know,

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 7>and this is the one that I really haven't seen

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 7>any talk about, but is a thing that Iran could

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 7>do if they decided that, you know, this is like

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 7>the end for our people. Is starting to hit desalinization

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 7>plants in places like the UAE and Cotter, which are

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 7>i mean, infrastructure that will make the countries uninhabitable. And

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 7>right now there haven't been any attacks on them because

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 7>that's a really hideous thing to do, and it's also

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 7>the sort of absolutely last resort. But it's a thing

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 7>that like, you know, if you keep hitting them, they're

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 7>going to keep hitting more and more targets that are

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 7>going to significantly impact the lives of everyone in the

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 7>region and around the world. Now, now on the sort

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:05.479
<v Speaker 7>of economics end, we've been kind of in this little

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 7>bouncing up and down Stace's lock, A little bit of

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 7>this has been broken because of again we're now seeing

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 7>instead of just the already very very bad damage of

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 7>nothing can get through the strait, we're now starting to

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 7>see permanent damage to oil infrastructure right, and by the way,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 7>it's as as are worth noting Royer's reports that the

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:29.319
<v Speaker 7>estimated damage I think both from revenue lost and from

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 7>to actually repair the facility that Carter state run gas

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 7>company is talking about. They're talking about twenty billion dollars

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 7>of damage. This has finally caused a sort of tank

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 7>in the Asian markets, which are down around three percent

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 7>in a lot of places. We're seeing like somewhere between

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 7>two to three percent for things like the DK in Japan.

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 7>We're seeing like one percent down in Shanghai. And you

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 7>know this is because a lot of these countries, particularly

0:42:55.640 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 7>in Asia, use a large quantity of not just oil

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 7>but also natural gas from the Gulf, which means that

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 7>these are the countries that are on the front lines

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 7>of this crisis. Now, the Brent Crude Index, which is

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 7>your sort of basementk for oil prices, is over one

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 7>hundred dollars. Now it's staying over one hundred dollars. Experts

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 7>are saying it's only going to increase, which yes, no shit,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 7>of course, it's only going to increase. It's just going

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 7>to be continued to be more tax I have seen

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 7>some reporting saying that like worst case scenario, we could

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 7>see it at two hundred dollars. Two hundred dollars is

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 7>like a nightmare, like the nine dollars gasoline, unbelievable, hideous nightmare.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 7>I'm not going to weigh in on whether we're going

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 7>to get to that point before Trump like bails out

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 7>of this war, but it's going to continue to go

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 7>up as both the actual global oil supply is reduced

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 7>and also as the capacity for a rebound once if

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 7>this war ends, is decreased by the continued destruction of

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 7>oil infrastructure. So all in all, things continue to be

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 7>extremely bad, and the outlook for the global economy is

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 7>very bad. The outlook for the people of Iran is

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 7>very bad. The outlook for people across the world is

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:09.439
<v Speaker 7>not good.

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, miya. And for a final segment, I'm going

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.320
<v Speaker 4>to talk about the ongoing war against the rhyme, Yeah,

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 4>which I guess we're still deciding if it's a war

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 4>or not. Earlier this week, Donald Trump denied the existence

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 4>of uncrewed surface vessels, something Garrison and I talked about

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 4>in the podcast that came out earlier this week. I'm

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 4>just going to pay you the clip, so.

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 6>They put out phone and cornies during the Kamakazie boats.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 6>The Karma Kazie boats don't exist. They're fake and you

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 6>can almost see that when you look at them. Look

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 6>say yeah, because if they did exist, we'd hit them

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:49.760
<v Speaker 6>just like we hit other boats all over the place.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 6>But they don't exist. In fact, some of the people say,

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 6>where are the boats? Well, how come nobody's see the bots?

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 4>You know why?

0:44:56.160 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 6>Because it's AI generated, it's naked I found just before

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.879
<v Speaker 6>they've we started. But Narana is known for a lot

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 6>of fake news, and they deal with our fake news.

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 6>And I actually think it's pretty criminal because our media companies,

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 6>who have no credibility whatsoever, are putting out information that

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 6>they know is false.

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So uncrewed surface vessels.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Are real, Yes, they sure are. They've been used massively

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 2>in Ukraine among other places.

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. In fact, Robert, would you like to hear about

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 4>Saint Coom Commander Admiral Brad Cooper talking about uncrewed surface vessels.

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I will always listen to someone named Brad James. You

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>know that about me?

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Here you see a photo from March first of

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a naval drone storage facility located near the Strait of Hoar.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Moves so as you can see naval drones uncrewed surface vessels.

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 4>This is going to be an issue in this conflict

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 4>and many others going forward. People are going to do

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 4>any reality that they don't want to engage with by

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 4>saying that it is ai Yep and that's deeply troubling.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 4>So let's talk about what has been happening since we

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 4>last spoke Hag Island and only did the Persian Gulf

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 4>that is replete with oil infrastructure and storage facilities. It's

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:23.760
<v Speaker 4>the island through a large amount of Iran's oil exports travel.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a basically, so the most of the coast

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 2>of Iran is too shallow for the huge vessels that

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 2>are necessary to actually move crude oil and carg Island

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 2>is like a very rare deep water port basically, so

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of the hub.

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was struck by the United States last weekend

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 4>of raid. The plane that the raid only hit oil

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:49.439
<v Speaker 4>infrastructure on Kig Island. It's very hard to get any

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 4>independent information from Iran currently because of blackouts, because of

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 4>the lack of connectivity, and because of regime oppression. Right

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 4>so we just it's quite possible that what the US

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.120
<v Speaker 4>is saying is not true. It's also quite possible what

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 4>the Iranian state is saying it is not true. We

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 4>can confirm that there were strikes there using all kinds

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.160
<v Speaker 4>of information by satellite imagery, open source flight threatening, et cetera,

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 4>that strikes definitely happened. Strikes this week by the IDF

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 4>also killed Ali Larijani and Bassige Unit commader Hola Moreza Solemoni.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Shortly after these claims first surfaced, a note was published

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 4>in Lara Johanni's handwriting. But it is fairly certain now

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 4>that he is dead. Larijani's assassination, I guess, or killing,

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 4>whatever you wanna call it by the IDF is notable

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 4>because he's one of the people who would have had

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 4>the sway in the regime to negotiate with the United States.

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 4>You could make a case that the IDF killing him

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 4>is a way for a negotiated piece to be even harder, right,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 4>for this conflict to continue even more. He is also

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 4>a person who is responsible for massive crimes against the

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 4>citizens of Iran, right including the violent, murderous clampdown on

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 4>protests that we saw in January of this year, the

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 4>United States is also deploying the thirty first Marine Expeditionary

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 4>Unit to the Middle East as part of an amphibious

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 4>response group that includes the USS Tripoly. In fact, it's

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 4>approximately twenty five hundred marines who will be deployed. This

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 4>is the closest we've seen twenty official communication of United

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 4>States boots on the ground in the region. There's a

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 4>number of things that a marine expeditionary unit could do.

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 4>One of them is to do search and rescue or

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 4>provide evacuations for people on vessels in the Strait of

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 4>hornm Mooes that are struck right. Another of them is

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 4>to assault or take islands where Iran may have based

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 4>its military infrastructure, so to do things that are either

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 4>not possible or not easy with air strikes. Another one

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:08.800
<v Speaker 4>is to add more air power that's closer to the

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 4>region that the Tripoli can carry their thirty five lightnings.

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 4>So it could be that. Another one is for these

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 4>two thy five hundred marines to invade Iran, right and

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 4>to begin a land war to attempt to They could

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.800
<v Speaker 4>also be training Iranian opposition groups right that that's possible,

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't it's not like a core Marine Corps mission,

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 4>but there's a special Forces mission. But there's a number

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 4>of things it could be doing. There are also a

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 4>number of more Marine expeditionary units and other forces that

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 4>could be moved to the region. It's interesting to see

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 4>this just a few months after we saw that National

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Security strategy which focused heavily on the Western hemisphere. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 4>the US isn't going to involve its OLM Forever Wars

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 4>in the release anymore.

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe it.

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, shocking.

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>What's the status of these marines right now?

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I believe they are motoring who the region? Right? So

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Triple is a big boat. It's called an amphibious assault boat,

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 4>but that makes it sound like it's like a Higgins boat.

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, if this is not the boat that you

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 4>see in the DDA movement, okay, in fact, I don't

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 4>think it can actually have this particular one if I

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 4>understand correctly, doesn't carry those kinds of boats, Like it's

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 4>not set up for doing like a beach landing on Amphoebisssault.

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 4>But these Marine Expeditionary units are like the like the

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 4>first response, I guess like they have their own air power.

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:37.000
<v Speaker 4>They have helicopters. Yeah, obviously they come on a boat.

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 4>They can move quite quickly. They have the marine, so

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 4>a caople of doing infantry stuff. So like it makes

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 4>sense that this would be what they would send. Talking

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 4>of US forces in the region, a US case, one

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 4>pint thirty five aircraft crashed over Rock last week. This

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:55.280
<v Speaker 4>is not a combat aircraft, right, it's not a fighter bomber.

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 4>But to my knowledge, the only way out of these

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 4>planes is bailing. All six crew members on border confirmed

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 4>to have died. The United States SAT cons As has

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.240
<v Speaker 4>flown over six thousand sorties since OEF began.

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, a's Operation Epic Fury.

0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's great because Operation During Freedom had the same acronym,

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure that's not a mistake. But yeah, this

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 4>is Operation Epic Fury. It's a very high tempo, right,

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:26.439
<v Speaker 4>and it's a very crowded air space. The six thousand sorties, yeap, Yeah,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 4>that's a lot. Yeah, accidents like this will happen, right,

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Not everybody who dies in warfare dies in combat. And thirdly,

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 4>this means that another six people are coming home from

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Iraq and coffins as they have been since before. Many

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 4>of our listeners who were born and of course a

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 4>lot of people in Iraq who have no quarrel with

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 4>anyone that will also be innocent victims of this. It's

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't mean by any means to suggest it's only

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 4>US service people who are the victims. Here I want

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 4>to talk about the conflict between the United States and

0:51:56.920 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Hushda Chaby. The US has carried out ace series of

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 4>air strikes against PMF groups, so these are popular mobilization

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 4>forces for its Shia groups in Iran for the Islamic State.

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.719
<v Speaker 4>A strike on a house in Baghdad killed the leader

0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 4>of Katib Hasbola in a rug. The strike was confirmed

0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 4>on Sabrine News. Sabrine News is like their telegram outlet.

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 4>It's like an aligned telegram news outlet for the group

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah for the PMF, and they made the statement quote

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 4>we announced you the martyrdom of hajj Abu Ali al Asgari.

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 4>In the days since he's killing, we have seen many

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 4>attacks on United States facilities in Iraq. The embassy's SRAM.

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 4>SRAM is counter rocket artillery and mortar. When you see

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 4>videos of drones being shot down, when you see like

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 4>a you hear like a run and then you see

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.800
<v Speaker 4>a burst of like tracer fire and the drone explodes.

0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 4>It's normally the cram, so the embassy cram and is

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 4>destroyed drone. But other footage posted online shows an FPV

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 4>drone that's the first person viewdrone FPV drone. It looks

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:11.879
<v Speaker 4>like you're flying as opposed to let you're looking directly down,

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 4>flying over the embassy compound for almost two minutes. I'm

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 4>guessing it was a fiber optic controlled drone, right, so

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 4>there's no means of like jamming the signal, but this

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 4>is still a monumental failure for security. Right At the

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 4>same time, we saw two drones at least enter and

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 4>explode in the Victory Base, which is near Baghdad Airport.

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 4>The videos from those are bizarre. It seems that the

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 4>drone gets into the base and then it's just like WHOA,

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 4>what the hell. It didn't seem like they had a

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 4>clear target. It kind of flies around it like seems

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 4>so shocked that it was able to penetrate this supposedly

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 4>impenetrable area.

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<v Speaker 3>How much of these security systems are designed to counter

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 3>drones versus originally designed to counter older types of like

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 3>aerial threats.

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, drones is a broad category, I guess. So you

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 4>have like yoshahed drone, which kind of blurs the line

0:54:09.680 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 4>between a drone and a missile, right, it's like a

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 4>missile that can take a more varied flight path. Yeah, yeah,

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't just don't go in the arc like ballistically.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.080
<v Speaker 4>In those cases, there are things that there are things

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 4>that you can do to shoot them down. Right, you

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:24.720
<v Speaker 4>can have your Patriot missiles, you can use of see RAM,

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 4>you can shoot them down with various weapon systems on

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 4>an aircraft. But if we group FPV and like drop

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 4>A drones as commercial off the shelf drones, this is

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:38.439
<v Speaker 4>the thing, right, you know, the United States has been

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 4>supporting Ukraine since twenty one, since before twenty twenty two,

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:45.440
<v Speaker 4>but it's including since twenty twenty two with the false

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 4>scale evasion. It has not been supporting the revolution in Memmar.

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:54.320
<v Speaker 4>But clearly they have not learned enough from those two conflicts,

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 4>right in terms of the use of these small commercial

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 4>off the shelf drones, and this is now showing up

0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 4>as a weakness in their defense strategy. Like this is

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 4>a serious thing for the US government. For someone to

0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:13.319
<v Speaker 4>be and for them to just fly a recondrone over

0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 4>the embassy, like you know, obviously they now know where

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 4>everything is, and for them to publish that footage it

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 4>is like a public somewhat like humiliation, right, the sort

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 4>of security infrastructure. So finally, I guess a couple more things.

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Iran is now militarizing the area of Kurdistan between the

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Iranian and Iraqi states. So that's the Iran Iraq border

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 4>in Kurdistan. Right. It seems to have issued orders preventing

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 4>people moving around the region as they habitually would people

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 4>move around because they've always moved around. People move around

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:53.840
<v Speaker 4>with their animals, right. The Iranian government appears to have

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 4>ordered its troops to shoot people who perceived to be

0:55:56.719 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 4>moving around without permission. People often get near the border

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.600
<v Speaker 4>with a ruck to access cell signal, and the government

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 4>forces appear to have left their bases in the region

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 4>in favor of occupying the mountains as what as local

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 4>educational institutions of sports facilities. Right, So that means that

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:16.960
<v Speaker 4>people in towns are now its threat. And Hengar has

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:20.520
<v Speaker 4>some incidents where people have been shot by security forces

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 4>in the region. Finally, then I want to talk about

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:30.040
<v Speaker 4>the resignation of the director of the National Countess Terrorism Center,

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Joe Kent. Kent resigned this week, saying quote, Iran posed

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 4>no imminent threat to our nation. It does seem that

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 4>that is where a lot of people stopped reading anything.

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Kent said, Yeah, are people who did not know who

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Joe Kent is, right and don't have access to Google

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 4>for reasons that I don't understand. Yeah, yeah, some really

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 4>incredibly shitty reporting on this. Kent went on in his

0:56:55.719 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 4>note to among other things, talk about the death of

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 4>his wife, which is genuinely tragic. Kent has some disgusting views, right, like,

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 4>but it does seem like the death of his wife

0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 4>was kind of a I guess a turning point. Is

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 4>that fair to say? Gair, Like, you've looked at Kent

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 4>a lot, like in his politics. He talks about it

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 4>a lot.

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's very load bearing for him.

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it's just with people aren't aware. His wife, Shannon,

0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 4>was a cryptologist and linguist attacked to the ISA Intelligence

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Support activity sometimes called Task Force Orange. She was in

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Mambij in Syria when she was killed by in Islamic

0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 4>State suicide bomber she was in the buffer zone, like

0:57:37.000 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 4>that that was like the buffer then that Turkey had

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 4>forced to exist. He calls that in his resignation to

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:47.959
<v Speaker 4>statement quote a war manufactured by Israel, and he also

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 4>seems to suggest that Trump was conned by Israel into

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 4>starting the war with it ran far too much reporting

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 4>has missed this context, So he's essentially using what on

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:00.920
<v Speaker 4>the face of it as an anti submit like saying.

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, he he like is he is he

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 3>is like an anti Semitic fascist.

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, his reason for retiring is like explicitly anti Semitic.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 3>This like yeah, this is the same justification that someone

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 3>like Nick Quentes uses to oppose the war in Iran.

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Not out of you know, principled solidarity. These people don't

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 3>care about civilians dying in Iran. No, And it's not

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 3>actually about any sort of like notion of anti imperialism.

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 4>No, it's anti Semitism.

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 3>They believe that this is a Zionist occupied government. Yeah,

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 3>in the zog meaning of the term, like there's like

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 3>literally literally like a total Jewish control over all state operations.

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Not linked to actual lobbying groups that lobby for Israel

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 3>within the United States, but conspiratorial framework invoking anti Semitic

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 3>tropes and stereotypes. This is the sort of an army

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.920
<v Speaker 3>that Joe Kent comes out of. As we are recording this,

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 3>Joe Kent has an interview dropping with Tucker Carlson, Yes,

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:05.760
<v Speaker 3>where he's going to expound on this. Carlson has similarly

0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 3>voiced these sorts of objections based on if any intelligent

0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.640
<v Speaker 3>person you know, reads into it based on anti semitism,

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 3>not actually based on again principal solidarity with oppressed people's

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 3>or anti imperialism.

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think if you're reading new sources of like,

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 4>oh wow, Trump is beginning to lose people, and they

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 4>have I mentioned any of this, really consider if you

0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 4>want to be reading those news sources. I'll just say that,

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 4>I guess. Caroline Levitt responded with a post on X saying, quote,

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 4>the commander in chief determines what does and does not

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.080
<v Speaker 4>constitute a threat because he is the only one constitutionally

0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 4>empowered to do so, and because the American people went

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 4>to the ballot box and it trusted him and him

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:51.000
<v Speaker 4>alone to make such final judgments. That is a remarkable

0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:53.120
<v Speaker 4>statement for those of us who lived through the whole

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Iraq has wnd's era.

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 3>But the United States has long history of involvement in

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the Middle East. And yes, the extent to which we

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 3>are partnering with Israel is often in support of our

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:07.000
<v Speaker 3>other objectives in the Middle East and our ability to

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:10.920
<v Speaker 3>use Israel as like a proxy state. That's why the

1:00:11.040 --> 1:00:14.200
<v Speaker 3>United States government has such a large interest in Israel.

1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Is we have other reasons for wanting to be active

1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:21.520
<v Speaker 3>and control parts of the region or influence the region.

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Often the priorities of Israel not always right, like

1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:29.120
<v Speaker 4>in the first time the United States invaded the Persian Gulf.

1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:32.120
<v Speaker 4>That often they are fighting alongside each other because they

1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:36.080
<v Speaker 4>have similar interest not because of any nefarious Jewish conspiracy.

1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, which very frustrating that it continues to be

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 3>something that needs to be reiterated.

1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even on the left, but it does.

1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 2>And the first time I started seeing people who had

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:51.440
<v Speaker 2>previously been doing other campus to shit start using the

1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>phrase zog, I was like, Okay, we've come, We've come

1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 2>full circle. Everything's where it was always going to be beautiful.

1:00:58.440 --> 1:01:03.440
<v Speaker 3>The normalization of zog and like goy across parts of

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the online left.

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Is from Anarchisparian of the New Turks, the Young Turks

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck the ty t they.

1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Call them the youngs has fallen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah well let yeah, let let's be honest, choosing that

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.880
<v Speaker 4>name didn't predispose them to the anti genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>She has always been like that, she's sucked for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But just seeing her use the freight the word GOI

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<v Speaker 2>like that was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, wow, Yeah I haven't seen that, Okay.

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I used to have to go to Telegram to see

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.160
<v Speaker 2>people boasting shit like that.

1:01:31.240 --> 1:01:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's sort of shit you would

1:01:33.240 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 4>hear like ham Radio, like it's just like old school racism.

1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, there is. There is this interesting emergence of

1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 3>like a red brown alliance specifically targeting like Israel or

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.720
<v Speaker 3>people's notions of Israel's global influence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, no, great, no great stuff at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we should just say, since this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the big news stories this week and

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<v Speaker 2>coming into next week, The New York Times has published

1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a in article with very extensive sourcing, including from people

1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 2>very close to Cesser Chavez, who reported that he sexually assaulted, raped,

1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:18.680
<v Speaker 2>molested an abused mix of girls and women, including a

1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:22.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of girls preteen girls started grooming them as young

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.320
<v Speaker 2>as eight or nine. In some cases, there's evidence of

1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:28.600
<v Speaker 2>molestation of girls as young as like twelve thirteen. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Delor Swerta, who was his very famously one of

1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:35.280
<v Speaker 2>his organizing partners for quite a long time, came out

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and said that he sexually assaulted her on raped her

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<v Speaker 2>on at least two occasions, which led to pregnancies. So

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<v Speaker 2>that is all coming out now, and it's all pretty horrific.

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