1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's me Josh, and I'm here to tell 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: you it's official. We're going to be in Vancouver, b C. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: And Portland, Oregon this March. On March twenty nine, will 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: be at the Chance Center in Vancouver and on March 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: will be at the Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall in Portland. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: So come see us. Tickets go on sale this Friday. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Go to s y s K live dot com for 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: ticket links and info and everything you need and we'll 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: see you guys in March. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hellellujah 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: and welcome to Stuff you Should Know. I'm Josh, There's Chuck, 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: there's Josh t over there, and uh, this is, like 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: I said, stuff you should know. Hey, you know we 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: should plug Josh's record. Can you get that anywhere? Josh 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Migrant Worker? All right, he's got a new album out. 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: He's a very talented musician. What's the name of the 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: album self titled? I don't think they wrote out self titled. 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I think it's just called Migrant Worker. And it looks great. 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet, but the artwork is is amazing, 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: and I know Josh is talented, So yeah, go out 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: there and find it. Everyone. Jerry's not in a band, No, no, 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: weigh their individual talents against one another. But Jerry's not 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: in a band. What if Jerry is like secretly in 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: a Heart tribute band or something that would be that 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: would make my life. Yeah, well, I want to hear 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: the album to Josh. Okay, okay, says Josh um So Chuck. 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: I said Hallelujah to start this one off. And the 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: reason I did that because it was a nod to Pentecostalism, 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: which is why we're going to talk about today. That's right. 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I could have sworn we did an episode on speaking 32 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: in tongues. We did not. We did went on faith 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: healing and snake handling. Yes, both of those were excellent, 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: and we must have talked about speaking in tongues some 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: enduring both of those. Yes, but we're gonna talk about 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more because it's a big part of 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: the Pentecostal movement, which huge surprisingly and you may have 38 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: been the one that dropped that stat on me recently 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: about being the fastest growing sect of Christianity is that right, Yeah, 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: I did. It was the other the other day. I 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know where it was, and he said, well, maybe 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: it was just Ah, I can't remember what you said evangelical. Yeah, 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I think I that doesn't sound like me. I probably 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: said look it up. Of course I'm right. Oh goodness, 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: that was a great Josh impression. But it is true. 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: It is um, And I guess it just seemed counterintuitive 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: because I naively thought that pentecostal Ism was sort of 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: antiquated and something that was going away. Oh. No, that 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: how they get you. That's what they want you to 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: think of. The family spring on you. If there was 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: a snake in your face. They say, here, hold this center. No, 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: but we're gonna be respectful here because it's pretty interesting. 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: I think. Starting now, okay, uh, we need to get 54 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: in the way back machine, though, and go back to 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: where this all began. Um, not really where it all began, 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: because in truth that would be Biblical times, but where 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: it began as a modern thing, is uh not that 58 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: long ago nineteen o six in downtown Los Angeles they 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: had something going on called the Azusa Street Revival, which 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: we talked about that in The Faith Healing Episode two Yeah, 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: it was a very big deal. This was at the 62 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Apostolic Faith Mission in downtown l A. There right on 63 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Azusa Street. Um, downtown I looked l A looked very 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 1: different back then, obviously. Yeah, this is like the industrial 65 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: area I saw. Yeah, I mean now it's just downtown 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: l A. You're like the toy the toy zone. What 67 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: do you call it the toy zone, not the zone. 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: What do you call an area where district, toy district. 69 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: There's a toy district there is. Yeah, downtown he's got 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: a toy district. That's in a fashion district. It's where 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: like you go get raw fabrics off the truck or 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: cheap toys straight off the boat. That kind of thing. 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: Got okay, it's not like just a wonderlantern. I know. 74 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go see this. This 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: sounds amazing. I want to go to the toy zone. Yeah, 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: they zone. So, Um, this was going on back then 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: down there. Uh. And that was led by a minister 78 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: and African American minister from Louisiana named William Seymour. Yeah. 79 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: And what was interesting about this, um is that this 80 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: is six and at the Zooza Street Mission. Um, this 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: was a like a like black and white. I'm not 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: sure about Hispanic, but I would not be at all 83 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: surprised it was Hispanic as well. Okay, they were like 84 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: UM races worshiping together UM, and it was a very 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: big deal. Just that alone was a very big deal. 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: But what makes this the start of pentecostal is M 87 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: is that UM at some point, I think in April 88 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: of nineteen o six, they started holding UM three services 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: a day, seven days a week, and these were like 90 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: marathon hours long services each one. And the reason that 91 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: they were doing this is because if you're a Pentecostal Um, 92 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: you believe that the Holy Spirit UM had descended upon 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: the Azusa Street mission and was in baptizing all of 94 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: these people with fire and causing them to UM speak 95 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: in tongues, to dance, a clap, to sing, and basically 96 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: revived religion as as or Christianity as we know it. Like, 97 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: that's what happened here in Los Angeles starting in April 98 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of nineteen o six, that's right. And they get that 99 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: that goes back to the biblical days where the eleven 100 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: remaining disciples after Christ was crucified, because you know, Judas 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: was the twelve you know what happened to him. He 102 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: didn't pan out so well, he didn't pan out so well, 103 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't kill himself after that? Yeah, he hung himself. Hanged himself. 104 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I always get that wrong. I always get 105 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: that wrong too. But those eleven remaining disciples were baptized 106 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: in the Holy Spirit and filled with the Holy Ghost 107 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: and began to speak in other tongues during the Pentecost feast, 108 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: which was a Jewish feast named so because it was 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I think fifty days after uh, the Crucifixion, after Passover, 110 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: after Passover, and the in is Greek. Pentecost is Greek, right, Well, 111 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: well put chuck, oh yeah, yeah, So what happened at 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: that first Pentecost feast back in the first century, see 113 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: was um they were like you said, they were by 114 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: eight in the Holy Spirit. They were speaking in tongues. 115 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: They suddenly had powers to like heal and all this 116 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: happened at that Pentecost feast. Um. And in apparently in 117 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: the Bible it basically says, um, hang around and wait 118 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: for this to happen again, and you will know this 119 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: will be a sign that the second Coming of Christ 120 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: is at hand. And so again if you're a Pentecostal, 121 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: you believe that in April of nineteen o six, the 122 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit showed up on earth again and basically bathe 123 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: these followers in it in itself, in the Holy Spirit um, 124 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: and to announce that Christ was coming again for the 125 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: second time. That's right, and this um, if you are 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: a complete agnostic or atheist, nonbeliever, this all sounds very weird. Probably, 127 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: But even back then and now, if you are um 128 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: a non Pentecostal Christian, let's say, you might think it's 129 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: pretty weird too. Um. It got a lot of blowback 130 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: back in nineteen o six from U Christians and atheists alike. 131 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: The l A Times. It was a reporter who wrote 132 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: a story entitled Weird Babble of Tongues, where they wrote 133 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: about attendees breathing strange utterances and malving a creed, which 134 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: it would seem no sane mortal could understand. Devotees of 135 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: the Weird Doctrine practice the most fanatical rights, preached the 136 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: wildest theories and work themselves into a state of mad 137 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: excitement and so um. It wasn't just the Los Angeles 138 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Times that thought this was a little odd. There was 139 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: a guy named Charles Parham, who five years earlier is 140 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: considered possibly the actual founder of Pentecostalism. Because this is 141 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: really important. Speaking in tongues is the the basis. It's 142 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the thing that differentiates Pentecostalism from everything else. The idea 143 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: that you can speak in tongues and when you do 144 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: speak in tongues is because you are being baptized by 145 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit and your your souls being sanctified, and 146 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: that if you don't speak in tongues, you're not actually 147 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: saved yet. That's that's the big differentiator. Well back in 148 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: nineteen o one and topeaka Kansas, Charles param was preaching 149 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and one of his church members, Agnes uh Ose and 150 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I think her name was, started speaking in tongues. And 151 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: so some people are like, no, this was the first 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: appearance of this Holy Spirit that was announcing the second 153 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: Coming of Christ. Other people are like, yeah, yeah, Agnes 154 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: is great and we'll we'll give her her do. But 155 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: really it was the Zuzu Street Revival where it wasn't 156 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: just one person, it was everybody who came this this revival, 157 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: this um, this thing where people were dancing and clapping 158 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: and speaking in tongues. For essentially the first time ever 159 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: or at least since the the Apostles back in the 160 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: first century. Um, this went on for years. They held 161 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: three services a day, seven days a week, four years, 162 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: and people were coming and being ecstatic and having just 163 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: a heck of a time. Almost said, a hell of 164 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: a time at this mission. Um, it's like nine years total. Yeah, 165 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: and then spreading out and going out into the world 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: to basically say, Hey, everybody, Jesus is coming. Look busy. 167 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember that that was like Stephen King's favorite 168 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: T shirt for a teenager to be wearing, Jesus is 169 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: coming and look busy. Yeah. If you read his stuff 170 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: from the seventies, like in every book there's a teenager wearing. Yeah, 171 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: that's like George Constanzas when he stumbled upon the thing 172 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: that if he looked annoyed every time someone passed his office, 173 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: then they thought he was working hard. Serenity. Now, Uh, 174 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: One thing we should point out to that the early 175 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Pentecostals were oddly ahead of the curve and allowing women 176 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: to take leadership roles in the church at a times, 177 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: and many times women of color. And this was not 178 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: the norm in nineteen o six in any capa city um. 179 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: So we should give them their due for that. Well. 180 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: In fact, William Seymour, the guy who was heading the 181 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: Zuosas Street Um revival Um, he married a white woman 182 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and he believed that the races um worshiping together was 183 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: a clear sign that you know, God was present, the 184 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit was present, and that this was like the 185 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: real deal, like this was really happening. But what's ironic 186 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: and kind of I guess tragic even about it is 187 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: that there was a faction that split off at the 188 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: mission um and a group left the mission and founded 189 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: basically their own branch of pentecostali Um. There's like one 190 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: really clear through line that aside from the um the 191 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: like religious beliefs of Evangelicalism and pentecostal um um. And 192 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: that is the politics of it, right, so true, So 193 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: there'll be some leader who comes along and says, no, 194 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: this and this literal interpretation is being interpreted incorrectly. We 195 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: know it's actually you're supposed to say this word. And 196 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this guy's got his own his 197 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: own church with his own followers, and they spread their 198 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: own word right Um. This happened at the Azuza Street 199 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Mission and out of that came the two largest congregations 200 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: UM that are in the United States at least, the 201 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Church of God in Christ, which is predominantly African American, 202 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: and the Assemblies of God, which is predominantly white. And 203 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: so what started out is this really amazing like um 204 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: racially mixed, multi racial UM ecstatic worship of God split 205 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: into two different factions of the same thing that divided 206 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: along racial lines. Amazing. Yeah, So let's take a break 207 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk a little bit about 208 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: what's happened since then, and uh, what Pentecostals believe and 209 00:12:53,559 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: why they're growing so quickly. Alright, So before the break, 210 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Church of God in Christ, largely African American, 211 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: six point five million members, not too shabby. Assemblies of 212 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: God three point two million members. Also, I mean a 213 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: lot of stats in here as we go, UM to 214 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: really drive home what what has happened here? What has happened? 215 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Something golful? It's not how I mean in NT six 216 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: percent of all global Christians were Pentecostals. By two thousand fifteen, 217 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: that had grown to twenty five from two fifteen. That's astounding. 218 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: It's like a nineteen percent jump and but also, Chuck, 219 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: that means that one in four one and four Christians 220 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: are Pentecostals. Now, yeah, and I think the stat from 221 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: that Washington Post article says one in twelve human beings 222 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: on planet Earth are Pentecostal, of just all humans. Yes, 223 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: And if you're a Pentecostal, you're like, well, that's clear 224 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: evidence that the Holy Spirit is spreading throughout the world. Um, 225 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: this is not just the United States, in fact, it is. 226 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: It is such a big deal because it's a global movement. UM. 227 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: What is referred to as the Global South UM, which 228 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: is Africa UM or regions of Africa, Latin America, Southeast Asia. 229 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: The Global South is booming with even with I'm sorry Pentecostals. 230 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: That's right, um, And I mean we'll talk a little 231 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: more about that, but just kind of put a pin 232 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: in that that that is I was right that it 233 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: is the fastest growing religion or religious sect. Yeah. So 234 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: there's this guy, he's a New Testament professor at evangel 235 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: University of Missouri named Martin middle Stat and he's quoted 236 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot in this Uh who wrote this was this 237 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Dave Ruse. I don't know, I didn't he might have 238 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: been Dave. But it seems like the author got an 239 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: interview with with Mr middle Statt. I don't know if 240 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: he's a doctor or not, but he he had a 241 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of great light to shine on this and kind 242 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: of what's going on. Lightbringer, he's a lightbringer? Um, he said, sorry, 243 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Dr Oh, you just called him doctor and he might 244 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: not be. But I also just called him Lucifer to well, 245 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: good point, Dr Lucifer. All right. So he said that 246 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: this is kind of like any kind of restoration or 247 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: renewal movement within Christianity that happens when and it's happened 248 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: over time in different ways, but that happens when Christians 249 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: feel like, hey, we've been ignoring something pretty important here 250 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: in the Bible directly from from Christ's words, and we 251 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: need to recover that in a big way. And in 252 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: this case, they're talking about the Book of Acts, which 253 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: details what we went over earlier of what happened with 254 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: the disciples after the passover. Right wait, wait and there 255 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: so like this this idea is that it's literally being recovered, 256 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: like there is this is literally happening. The Holy Spirit, 257 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: as prophecied, is returning to Earth and andy in hearkening 258 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: the Second Coming of Christ, right, yeah, so so like 259 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: these renewal and reform movements have happened before, and in fact, 260 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: some people trace Pentecostalism to one in the late nineteenth 261 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: century called the Holiness Movement. And these these renewals um 262 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that follow in the tradition of the Holiness Movement. They 263 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: are based on um, like a charismatic belief that's it's 264 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: really easier to explain what it's not, and that is 265 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: that stayed kind of call and response service where everybody 266 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: sits down, stands up all at the same time, and 267 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: it's it's very structured. Charismatic worship is the exact opposite 268 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: of that. It's not structured. It almost seems like things 269 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: are coming apart at the seams. Um. People are dancing 270 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: and clapping, everybody's almost doing their own thing, and it's 271 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of room for you to have 272 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: your own experience directly with the Holy Spirit, not necessarily 273 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: just through this preacher or this priest or whoever is 274 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: acting as the conduit like in a normal service. This 275 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: is like the Holy spirits there in the room and 276 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: everybody's interacting with it in their own way. Yeah, which 277 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Um sounds kind of fun, to be honest. I grew 278 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: up in a Baptist church that was the opposite. It 279 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: was one of these very sort of dry things. Every 280 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: Sunday you would get your sermon that had to wrap 281 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: up by noon because the pot roast was in the 282 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: slow cooker and the falcons were gonna come on in 283 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: an hour, and you could feel people getting anty. You know. 284 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: It was just one of those deals. That's the church 285 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: I went to. I remember we had a guy that 286 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: came and visited one week that sat on the front 287 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: row and started, uh started talking back, Oh yeah, oh yeah, 288 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: started and just with like you know, you know, all 289 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: all glory, hallelujah. So you know, they were just I 290 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? Everyone did? Everyone was 291 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: like what is this guy doing? Um, we don't do 292 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: that here. There was They didn't say that, but that 293 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: was the feeling. I think that man turned out to 294 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: be St. Paul. I just remember being a kid and 295 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: hearing him and seeing the reaction of people and getting 296 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: the feeling that they're all like, don't screw this up 297 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: for us, buddy, we uh yeah, right, were gonna doing things. Yeah, 298 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: we can get out of here. In forty five minutes 299 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: just clamb up. Um. I went to a funeral recently 300 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: at a Pentecostal church and it was something else. But 301 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: there there were people speaking in tongues and a lot 302 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: of like shouting back and and like like you were saying, 303 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: like that guy in the front row right there, Oh, 304 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I was in the thick of it. Yeah, And um, 305 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't just that one guy, it 306 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: was everybody there was doing that and they were doing 307 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: it like at their own, like on their own terms, 308 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: on their own speed, and um, it was really it 309 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: was something to see. It was really impressive. I would 310 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: pay cash money to see a hidden camera video of 311 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: you during that. I was playing it super cool. I 312 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: bet every once a while did you go right on man? Yeah, 313 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: I said, freebird. I'm not into this, but you guys 314 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: seem cool. No, I was. I was there and being 315 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: explicitly not judging of course, you know, Like I was 316 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: like I was a guest there, and I felt kind 317 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: of honored to have been invited because everybody knew who 318 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: knew me that was there knew that I'm not into 319 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: that at all. But I also didn't want to put 320 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: out any kind of vibe like I was being judging 321 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: or anything. Would you even go if you're just gonna 322 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: sit there and smirk, you know, that's no fun. Well yeah, exactly. 323 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 1: But also I was very um. I had a lot 324 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: of respect and admiration for the deceased, I thought, you 325 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: can say. I was also very drunk. I had taken 326 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: some shrooms a couple of hours before, and it really 327 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: made everything even more interesting. That's cool. I'm glad you 328 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: had that experience. Yeah, me too, Actually, me too. I 329 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: think people should experience all kinds of things in their 330 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: life like this that. But yeah, can possibly uncomfortable, exactly, 331 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: And and like I could also see I was like, yeah, 332 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you know, like if you're really kind of open to 333 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: this or even on the fence about it, you can 334 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: feel how somebody would get swept up and be like, yeah, 335 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: this is what I believe, you know. I mean, the 336 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: word charismatic is an excellent word for um for that 337 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: that type of worship, like it's perfect, but it's not. 338 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: And we tend to think of it as like Pentecostals 339 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: who just do that, and it's not. There's actually different 340 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: charismatic movements that revived other Christian sex to like Catholicism 341 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: had one back in nineteen seven, the Methodists had a 342 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: charismatic revival, and um, it's typically kind of looked upon 343 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: favorably by church leaders because they're like, all right, this 344 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: is a little weird. We might start having to go 345 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: an hour and a half of our services. But ultimately 346 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: what it represents is people coming along and saying this 347 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: religious sect is not dying. We're gonna breathe new life 348 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: into it. Or if you believe in this kind of stuff, 349 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit has chosen to breathe new life into 350 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: this sect to keep it from dying off. Or it's 351 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: good for business. That's another way to look at it 352 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: for sure. And we'll we'll talk about some people who 353 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: are who view the whole thing kind of transactionally to uh. 354 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: So we should point out to you here about the 355 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: different kinds of baptism. When we're talking about someone being 356 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: quote unquote saved or baptized in the Holy Spirit, this 357 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: is a you're at baptism. It is if you've seen 358 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: uh people get dunked in the pool or in a river. 359 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: If you're in a more rural church, that is a 360 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: water baptism that is merely a symbolic public gesture to 361 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: kind of celebrate and tell everyone, Hey, I had the 362 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: spirit baptism. I'm saved now, so hey, get a load 363 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, get a load of me. Watch I'll 364 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: get dunked. Yeah. But if you're a Pentecostal, you're basically like, 365 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: that's that's great. That's a nice first quarter step, right that. 366 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: And it's not just Pentecostals who believe that, Like I 367 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: think you know, if you're Catholic, when you're baptized, you're baptized. 368 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: It's just done. You have a water baptism and you 369 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: are officially baptized, your your your baby soul is not 370 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: going to go to purgatory any longer. You can finally 371 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: go to heaven, right with Like Baptists, I believe the 372 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: water baptism is enough too. But what differentiates evangelicals from 373 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: other other religious sects that believe that by Baptist baptism 374 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: through water you're saved right then? Um? Evangelicals are like, no, 375 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: you've just said that, Okay, I'm dedicating myself to God 376 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: into Christ specifically. But what differentiates evangelicals is that there's 377 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: still some other thing coming, and that's that baptism by 378 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit. Well, it was the different in my church. 379 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: It was you wait till you have that spiritual baptism 380 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: and then afterward you have the public water baptism. Oh 381 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: is that right? Okay, okay, so I've got that backwards. 382 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: But but that's what so so even so, then I 383 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: guess would Baptists be considered a type of evangelicals? I 384 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know either. But here's what I 385 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: found that differentiates evangelicals or that defines evangelicals. You're ready. 386 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: There's a scholar from Baylor. He's an historian, but he's 387 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: also an evangelical scholar named David Bebington, David W. Bebington, 388 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: and he defines evangelicals as subscribing to four big points. 389 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: One is that the Bible is the literal word of God, 390 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: where like, if you're reading that God wrote that, do 391 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: not question it, do not try to interpret it any 392 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: other way, Like it is literally on its face what 393 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: it means is the word of God. The second second 394 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: point is that Jesus, Jesus suffered on the cross and 395 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: died in order to cover humanity, and that you can 396 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: be saved by accepting that as fact. That Jesus Christ 397 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: is your savior. Man, I feel like we're having a 398 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: revival here ourselves. Okay, we've worked up this. The third 399 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: one is that you have to be born again by 400 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: a baptism by the Holy Spirit. So I don't know 401 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: if you could technically get away with not doing the 402 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: water baptism, because the evangelicals say it's that baptism by 403 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit where you're overcoming, you're clapping and singing and 404 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: speaking in tongues and all that. Well, not speaking in tongues, 405 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: but you're clapping and singing and you have like been 406 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: bathed and baptized by the Holy Spirit. That that's how 407 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: you're actually saved. Okay, okay. Point four is that you 408 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: have to be an activist um an evangelists who is 409 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: actively working on converting the world to Godliness uh and 410 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: Christianity to prepare for the second coming of Christ. It's 411 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: not enough to just be like, oh, they're doing it wrong. 412 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: You have to go over and explain to them how 413 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: they're doing it wrong and how to do it right. Yeah, 414 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was I think all four 415 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: of those fall under what I grew up with in 416 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: my church. Okay, then what then? What separates evangelicals from 417 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: pentecostal is that Pentecostals believe that baptism by the Holy 418 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: Spirit involves specifically speaking in tongues, and that if you 419 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: don't speak in tongues when you're baptized by the Holy Spirit, 420 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: you haven't actually been sanctified and made pure so that 421 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: you can get into Heaven and you're a true you 422 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: know Christian. I guess right, all right, that clears up 423 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: a lot. Thank you. You can subscribe to my news letter. Um, 424 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: so let's talk about speaking in tongues. There are a 425 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: couple of ways that this can happen. Um. It's also 426 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: called spontaneous speech. UM. It could come through as a 427 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: foreign language that you don't know. They call that xenoglossia. 428 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: There's basically no documented case of that ever. Right, So 429 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: when I say this can happen, these are the ways 430 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: that it's broken down in theory um or nonsensical utterances, 431 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: which is called gloss lalia. And that's whinning. You know, 432 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen, well, if you've ever seen people 433 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: speaking tongues, or if you've ever seen the movie Cape 434 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Fear with Robert de Niro at the end when he's 435 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: going into the water. Um, that's that's what he's doing. 436 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: Is it sounds it's a nonsensical divine utterance, is what 437 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 1: it's defined as. Yes, supposedly God's the only one who 438 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: can understand what you're saying, but you're actually speaking in 439 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: a language that God understands. Right. And the other thing 440 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: is somewhere in the Bible it says that if you're 441 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna speak in tongues, you should only do it in public, 442 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: like if you're in church, you should only do that 443 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: if there's someone there to interpret that message. And Pentecostals 444 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: say nuts to that. They do because they the cynical 445 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: person would say, they don't have anyone there that could 446 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: interpret that accurately. Um, the believer would just say that's 447 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: They just say, that's a bunk. So back at a 448 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: Zuza Street mission during the Revival of nineteen o six 449 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: or starting nineteen o six, they they said they reported 450 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: so there was a newspaper, um called the Apostolic Faith 451 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Newspaper that was published out of a Zusa Street And 452 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Um they said that during the revival, people were speaking 453 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: in Greek, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Zulu, Chippewa. Uh yeah, Um, 454 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: and there's again there's no documented evidence that anyone has 455 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: ever um been given the gift of zena glossia, which 456 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: is where you are just fluently speaking another language that 457 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: you don't know that you you have acquired the ability 458 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: to speak another language without studying it in any way, 459 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: shape or form. No one's ever um documented that. But 460 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: that was one of the early interpretations of what was 461 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: going on at a Zusa Street, that they the Holy 462 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Spirit had come down given these people the gift of 463 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: zeno glossia, and now there they were to spread out 464 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: and become missionaries around the world too, so that they 465 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: could go spread the faith in these other native tongues. 466 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Um and a lot of people did do that. I 467 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: don't know that they were able to immediately go and 468 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: speak in these other native tongues, but they probably picked 469 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: it up pretty quickly because immersion is the best way 470 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: to do it. But people did spread out from Azusa 471 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: Street and become um Pentecostal missionaries and founded Pentecostal churches. 472 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: Like that really is like kind of like the the 473 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: the origin point for the entire faith. Well, and wouldn't 474 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: you say that it's clearly like the Pentecostal Um missionaries 475 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: have done a great job considering it. The fact that 476 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: it's growing in the Global South. Yeah, how else would 477 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: they have heard about this stuff? Right? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah. 478 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I think the proof is in the numbers, that that 479 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are out there spreading 480 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: the word, and that there's a lot of people who 481 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: are feeling pretty receptive to that. Should we talk a 482 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: little bit about some more numbers? Um? The Pulletzer Center 483 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Pulletzer Centers Atlas of pentecostal is M estimates that thirty 484 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand people convert to pentecostal is Um every day, 485 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: every day. Um. We were talking about the Global South. 486 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: The Redeemed Christian Church of God in Nigeria claims to 487 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: have five million members in Nigeria alone. There's an article 488 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: that I read called I think Christianity is dying. No, 489 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: Christianity is shifting dramatically from West Grandberg Michaelson from two 490 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen in the Washington Post. So should we talk 491 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: about more numbers or should we take a break and 492 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: talk about more numbers. Let's take a break and then 493 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk more numbers. Okay, okay, alright, Tock late lay 494 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: some numbers on us. Man. Let me see here in 495 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: more Christians were found in the global South than the 496 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: North for the first time in a thousand years. Uh. 497 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: In the Christian community in Latin American Africa alone account 498 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: for one billion people. Yeah, and that's I mean, that's 499 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty significant. How much how many or how I don't 500 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this, how much or 501 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: how many inroads? How much inroads? Neither ones? It sounds 502 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: like I'm speaking in tongues. So the how the inroads 503 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: that Pentecostals have made over time, um, because there's like 504 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I think half a billion evangelicals and um, like two 505 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: thirds of those are Pentecostals right around the world. There's 506 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: like one point two billion Catholics, and forever the Catholics 507 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: have just been virtually untouchable, at least as far as 508 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: Christianity goes. Um. But the the Evangelicals are really kind 509 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: of starting to nip at their heels. And the other 510 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: thing that's that's um remarkable about it is just how 511 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: fast this is happening. Like like you're saying, it seems 512 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: like Onward was like a watershed chain and shift in 513 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: the growth of of Pentecostalism and evangelicalism around the world, 514 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: but it is kind of concentrated in that that Global South, 515 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people are trying to figure 516 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: out exactly why. UM. One of the reasons why is 517 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: because in the Global South, you know, parts of Africa, 518 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: Latin America, parts of Southeast Asia, UM, there there are 519 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: traditional religions still that are charismatic in structure right to 520 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: where you're interacting with spirits and you know, they have 521 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: an influence on your daily life and UM when you 522 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: engage in worship that may include dancing and singing and 523 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: individual expressions of being touched by you know, these these 524 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: spirits are the spirit and it bears a really striking 525 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: resemblance to Pentecostalism, so much so that if you kind 526 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: of trace Pentecostalism back you you can't help but wonder, 527 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: like did the exported religions from Frica to say, like 528 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: the Caribbean UM help shape Pentecostalism, and that Pentecostalism is 529 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of like a like a reformed version of reformed 530 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: Christian version of this kind of UM worship that's now 531 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: being re exported back to the Global South, and that 532 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: that is what this part of the explanation for this 533 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: UM really eager receptionism among people in Latin America and 534 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: Africa and Southeast Asia. So the idea is that it 535 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a mental leap at the very least, 536 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: It's not like it's probably harder to to UM, introduce 537 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: Pentecostalism to Catholics in Cleveland than it is to um, 538 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, people who follow Mashimo and Guatemala, because it 539 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: just because the type of worship bears a lot more 540 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: of a resemblance to to one another than it was 541 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: to say, like Catholics in Cleveland and the way that 542 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: they're used to worshiping. It makes sense so that they're 543 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: already kind of like okay, yeah, I get this, like 544 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: I can identify with this. It makes sense to me. Well. 545 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: The other thing too, that UM, I think of this 546 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: WAPO article, it gives a lot of food for thought 547 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: that Grandberg Michaelson tackles is uh immigration and migration UM. 548 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Two d and fourteen million people and this was four 549 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: years ago have moved from their country to another country 550 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: as migrants and refugees. UM. That's a lot of people, 551 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: and about half of those a hundred and five million 552 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: of those people are Christians, which is a way higher 553 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: percentage than the you know, the comparable percentage of Christians 554 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, so Christians are moving around the 555 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: world in big numbers everywhere, from the Middle East, in Africa, 556 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean. And he makes a really good point that 557 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: like the same people in this country who are advocating 558 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: against immigration in the United States, a lot of them 559 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: are would consider themselves Christian people's and so he's like, 560 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect between like these people coming up from Guatemala, Mexico, 561 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: a lot of which are Christian, saying well, we don't 562 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: want you here, even though that would help them further 563 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: a Christian and religious agenda, right exactly. And it's a 564 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: weird disconnect there, it is, because you're saying, like, well, 565 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, we are all Pentecostals here, but you're also 566 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: from a different country further south than us. So like 567 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: that's the dividing line. The other thing that he he 568 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: points out is that migration typically tends to strengthen religious 569 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: faith and increase it so that the people who show 570 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: up are typically super religious. And it's just a process 571 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: of migration can make you yeah, exactly, and to to 572 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: make it makes you be like, wow, there must be 573 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: a God or else I wouldn't have made it here. 574 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: You know. So that the people who show up on 575 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: your doorstep as migrants are typically extremely religious. And he 576 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: points out that like both sides of the political equation 577 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: should be happy about that. UM. That like these these 578 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: spiritual renewals and and religious movements, you know, they can 579 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: be a double edged sword. On the one hand, they 580 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: can have they can call for very strict um behavioral codes, 581 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: women's reproductive rights can fall by the wayside or just 582 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: be suppressed outright. UM. But on the other hand, they 583 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: can also be good for society's morals, like they those 584 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: same strict behavioral codes also keep people in line and 585 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: keep them from doing crime. UM. And that that it 586 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: can it can be good and bad, like with the UM. 587 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: The it's called the Second Grade Awakening. In the middle 588 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: of the nineteenth century in America. It was a huge 589 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: religious movement, and it's credited with UM helping start the 590 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: movement to abolish slavery in the United States and to 591 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: UH to UH introduced the idea of women's suffrage. On 592 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: the other hand, it also introduced the Temperance movement, which 593 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: just was one of the worst things we've ever done. 594 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: But there there are like good and bad pluses and 595 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: minuses too general, you know, major religious movements and reawakenings. 596 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Um And I think what this guy is saying is 597 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pluses and positives that can come 598 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: with migrants, even though they're being portrayed in the exact 599 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: opposite light that there you know, rapists and murderers and criminals. Actually, 600 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: the people who are showing up as migrants are probably 601 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: more religious than the average American is, especially in America, 602 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: because religiousness in America is showing to be declining. So again, 603 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: you would think that people who were religious would want 604 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: their numbers to swell, even if it is through you know, 605 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: these migrants that they don't feel very highly about. It's 606 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: a very interesting juxtaposition, yes, very chuck, very So that's Pentecostals. 607 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: You got anything else? I got nothing else, man. They 608 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: are interesting. I was reading about them. They will break 609 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: off into a new church at the drop of a 610 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: hat over like a couple of words, man, And it's 611 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: happened very frequently. It's really interesting stuff to read their 612 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: history because it's also so modern and recent too. You know, 613 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: you can it's you know, a little over a century old, 614 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: so you can kind of recognize a lot of it 615 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: and identify with it. Okay, well that's it for Pentecostals. 616 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: And since I said that, it's time for listener mail. Uh, 617 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: this is a very very sweet email. Is this the 618 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: one janitors? Yeah? So if you remember, we talked about 619 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: with great fondness about our high school janitors in the 620 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: Transdermal Implant podcast. Of course, as you do. I'm not 621 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: sure how we got on that tangent. I don't even uh, 622 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: but this is from Emily. She says, Josh talked about 623 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: how his janitor was a grizzled older woman. Chuck mentioned 624 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: that his was a tall, lanky gentleman. But despite the differences, 625 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: you both remembered them with such affection and respect. It 626 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: gave me the warm fuzzies hearing you talk so fondly 627 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: of these people. For the simple fact that my grandma 628 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: was a high school janitor. She is one of the sweetest, 629 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: classiest people I've ever known, but one of the hardest 630 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: workers as well. She worked at the high school in 631 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: her little town of Gettysburg, South Dakota with my grandpa, 632 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: who was a science, art and health teacher for at 633 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: least twenty five years. My mom was born and raised 634 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: in this town and talks about whenever she was having 635 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: a bad day or didn't feel like going to class, 636 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: she would just find out where her mom was cleaning, 637 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: go hang out with her for a bit. That's so cute. 638 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: Like me, when it's my father, the principle, I would 639 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: do the same thing. Yeah, I think that's very sweet. 640 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: Needs to get out of here, come back to class here, 641 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: take some dome domes, and get out of here. As 642 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: for how my grandma enjoyed her work as a janitor, 643 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: she says she didn't mind most of the cleaning, except 644 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: whenever someone threw up. I can imagine you could. You 645 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: could go your whole life without ever getting used to that. 646 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: And Emily closes with this, I just want to remind 647 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: everyone out there that your janitor is someone's grandma or 648 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: mom or dad or uncle or whatever. They are special 649 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: to someone, so please treat them and their job with respect. 650 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I love the show, guys. Keep up with a good work, 651 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: and thanks for always being kind and respectful of everyone. 652 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: And that is from Emily. I hope we were kind 653 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: of respectfully Christians today. I'm pretty sure we were. I 654 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: think we did an okay job. Yeah, thanks a lot 655 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: for that one, Emily. She also sent a picture of 656 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: um a photo from the newspaper of her grandma and 657 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: grandpa together at school and they are a cute cute couple. Yep, 658 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: I love it. Well. If you want to tell us 659 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: something adorable, we love that kind of stuff. You can 660 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: get in touch with us by sending us an email, 661 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: Wrap it up, spank it on the bottom, and send 662 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: it off to Stuff podcast at iHeart radio dot com. 663 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of I Heart 664 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: Radios How Stuff Works. 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