WEBVTT - Episode 447 | Day and Night 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:01.880 The volume. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.280 Welcome to new Rory and Maul on Netflix. I was excited. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:17.400 You can never get this guy excited. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.320 Hey we're on Netflix. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.080 I've seen the greatest of shows with this guy, live 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.200 performances that blew my mind and mall just not even 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:28.720 being on Netflix does anything. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:29.840 It's very stoic. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:32.360 It's my j prince right there. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:35.640 I mean, we do need to do a twenty three 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.920 meters with you guys. I mean somewhere down the line. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.400 There's some relatives, some relations for sure. But yes, welcome 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.519 to our first episode on Netflix, well, our first new one, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.880 because we did upload some older episodes just so people 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.520 that were discovering the show could have an idea. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.120 But we are here, We have arrived. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.120 We are here, and then the forest of k Netflix 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:56.400 will never be the same? 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:01.880 Will readia for Netflix? 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:03.680 Should we do it like promote this the way they 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.520 promote all like the new podcast of like they're going 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.600 to say the craziest thing, No one's safe. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.120 Yeah, when these guys get on the microphone. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.080 The culture will shift as a result. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:17.360 The tectonic plates. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.119 Yes, nothing will be the same, but we are happy 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.319 to be here at on our new home. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.560 Yes Netflix, So yeah, man, let's get to it. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.280 Let's have some fun. Yeah, I add some uh unnamed 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.440 champagne here. I'll keep the logo this way. But you know, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.520 just I thought it was a nice, nice gesture. And 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.360 on a snow day too. I hope Netflix already Uh 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:40.600 we're complaining. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.920 Alcoholics always need a reason to drink, don't they. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.399 I think being on Netflix is a pretty good uh yeah, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.360 pretty good thing. And I was sober through the entire 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.440 snow experience. So nobody believes that I swear to God. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:52.960 Nobody believes that. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.160 You think that helps you do? I put that on 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:57.680 my mama. 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.720 You don't even talk to you, you know, I said, Rory, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.440 I said roral tweets. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.160 Is that close to it? 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.799 I said yesterday that said it was a girl that 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.280 said I swear out my life. And the dude responded 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.119 was like, bitch, you suicidal swear on something. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.960 Yeah, like you are, mama already to be You need. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.200 To monetize from Netflix alive? Can we do that? 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:24.600 I don't know, keep it, but listen, they they write 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:25.800 people live on Netflix. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.440 It's in the scripted series. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:28.960 Yeah, that is true. 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.040 It's so like I think, Oh, there's an intimacy coordinator 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.840 I feel like we need an intimacy coordinator. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.320 Is what do they do? 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:35.480 So? 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.160 Intimacy coordinator is someone that goes on the sets of 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.919 TV shows, movies and things like that for sex scenes 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.240 or like any type of like seeing that if those 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:45.920 two people, Yeah, like that. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.080 Would make people uncomfortable. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:47.840 Probably God. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.160 Yeah. So they like place like balls and like little 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.079 cover ups in between nipples and like they. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.560 Make sure like cover between nipples when. 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.160 People are having sex on Netflix while they're not actually 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:00.639 having sex, So there needs. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:00.880 To be covered. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:02.720 Don't cover my nipples. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.200 We covered my nipples for not not your nipples. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:06.400 Cover her nipples? 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.480 Yes, what so that she's comfortable. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.880 She's acting them all with pasties on and the sex 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:12.760 scene is just funny. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.560 She's not really fucking like she's No. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.240 I get that part, but I'm saying, you don't have 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.239 to cover the nipples for us to not like nobody 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:19.359 thinks we're really having sex. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.839 It's not about we're not, but it's uncomfortable for the actor. Yeah, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.480 but we still see nipples though sometimes, but it's not rubbing. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.080 I've never seen a sex scene and did not see nipples. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:30.480 What. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.960 No, there's yes, you can have. I saw the saw 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.680 the boob and it was Pasty's on a nipple. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:38.720 No, No, it's. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.040 Like hiding nipple purposely in the scene because it's not 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.920 Maybe are rated, they are covered by things like I. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.680 Get genitalia being covered. I get that part. But I've 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.320 never seen a really. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:50.720 Good sex scene. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.280 I'm doing a scene and I'm laying on my back 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.360 and there's a man on top of me. There is 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.320 something in between my orogenous zones so that when he's 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.280 rubbing against me, it's not uncomfortable for the both of us. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.800 Okay, all right, So won't be watching that movie. You 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:10.800 don't see it. You don't see it. It's for that actor. 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.839 No, I can tell I know a good sex scene 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.680 versus the sexcey where they had no chemistry. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:15.840 Those actors had the chemistry. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.560 Those are the ones with the pasties and the rogin 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.680 his zone blockers. I don't want to see a sex 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.200 scene with the rogin his zone blocker. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.480 All right, let me try to say disrespect, because I 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.440 have a lot of respect for for Chloe Bailey. In 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.400 that scene in that show that went viral, it's pretty 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.440 much the trailer. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.520 To to watch them. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.320 Yeah, when he's blowing her back out and you see 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.600 kind of her arch like the top of her cheeks. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.200 You don't think there was like close between them there. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.720 You can't I know that, Okay, I'm saying that if 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.400 if a woman is and she had paid, like even 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.719 though our shirt was off, she had things on her tips, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.599 you just can't see that, Okay, Okay, all right, maybe 0:04:53.600 --> 0:05:00.160 we're over explaining. No ononder they didn't get a mall emmy. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.800 I doubt there's been any real I think it's like 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.240 a like union mandated. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.920 You can't just have but ass sexies unless you're These 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.679 are not regular cups. These this is for the beer pong. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.920 I clean them, Okay. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.320 Marriage nobody's drinking that, don't worry about it. It looks 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.000 just for the camera. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.480 Rodging his own blockers. That's the celebratory zone blocker. 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:26.680 So what what would the intimacy counselor do for our show? 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:27.600 Coordinator? 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.159 Yeah, made one of our sketches, Yet. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.480 They would like make sure okay we're on. It's so 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.400 weird because we're on Netflix now and I'm like afraid, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.039 like my aunts are tuned in for sure. All the 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.920 crazy things I would say for the YouTube community, I'm. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.320 Over here, like you're afraid to say things on Netflix 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:45.160 but not YouTube. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.880 Yeah, just because I feel like Netflix is for the 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.000 like my aunts and them have Netflix, like my my 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.120 my mother has Netflix. My mother's not going to YouTube 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.760 to watch this show. Like it's just different. I don't know, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.240 it's so easily accessible. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.720 Yeah. I will say I went to my godfather's right 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.680 before the snowstorm and it was a bunch of adults 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.760 there and they were thrilled that it was on, like, oh, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:07.600 I can finally watch it. 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:08.159 Mm hmm. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.040 I was like, you do know YouTube? Like it was 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.800 on your phone? You could have like no, I don't 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.479 know how to do that. Now, could you go on 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:15.160 my TV and watch it? 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:15.480 Yeah? 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.400 The adults were thrilled. Where your whole older family is 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.400 going to see all the foul things that you say. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.919 And you may want to hire an intimacy coordinator for 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:25.600 times like this. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.760 For like times when Maul is like asking me if 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.880 I'm ovulating, like like I need intimacy over here, like 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.640 are you okay? Like is that okay? 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:34.320 Well? 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.360 By though, like this is I can't ask if you're ovulator? 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.520 What's wrong with that? That's like a major that's like 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.680 a normal bodily, i'd s. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.760 Yeah, that's how the population continues. I understand. Yeah, I'm 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.679 that you were concerned for the baby. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.240 I'm on the side of if you're ovulating, if you're 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.560 you know, on your monthly out listen, I'm one of 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.480 those out you can take the time off, like I'm 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:56.159 one of those guys. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.560 I can take this time off with I'm on my 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.000 monthly since win. I'm been onto my past for five years. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.120 Okay, baby, if you're on your menstrul, you're on your cycle, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.160 just send me the app so I can track it, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:09.880 and then I will give you to you. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:11.480 I have to be able to prove it. I have 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:12.560 to be able to prove it. I have to be 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.400 able to prove that she even the period apps, you 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.760 personally submit that in there, they can guess. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.000 But the baby gives it to me. Now, I can 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.320 kind of track it now. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.200 But what if she switches to birth control and it 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:26.640 changed has to control. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.640 She has to tell me that as her as her employer, 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.520 she has to tell me that, okay, left until my monthly. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.240 Okay, so send me to the date and then I'll 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.040 track it from there and then one day if you 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.280 come me like Ma you know what. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.240 I'm cramping. I'm not like listening. I'll check the app. Yeah, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:43.720 intimisson Coordinator, right, are you. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.960 Gonna keep pushing notifications on? 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.920 Yes? Absolutely? I want to know when baby deeds ovulating? Okay, cool? 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.080 You know that in that app you also track every 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.480 time you have sex too, So I don't know if 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.040 you want to put your push notifications on every time. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.480 You have to know I won't get no sleep. I 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:58.080 should be going. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:04.600 I'll be like, oh, baby, baby, go to bed. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.760 Baby D's added a. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.840 Yeah, yo. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:16.960 Imagine I had pushed notification, Oh baby having yo? Please 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.119 definite like yo, if you don't go, take your horny 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:22.800 ash to sleep? 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.480 Man, what's roll with you? It's a nasty collab calendar. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.000 Yes, we need it, though. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.200 We need to know when baby's not feeling well? What 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.360 the all women, not just baby, the all women. That 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.079 should be a thing. You're on your monthly you're not 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.960 feeling women should be able to stay home, man, that's 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.319 that's a natural thing. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.360 My favorite story of when a director needed it, Intimacy 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.000 Coordinator was Dame when he got sued. And I want 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.559 to make it clear that Dame beat this case. They 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.559 never say when Dame beats the lawsuits. He was directing 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.000 a movie and he told a woman he was too 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.400 uncomfortable to talk about sex with her and director that way. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.920 So he gave her a porno DP and say, yo, 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:54.480 go watch this. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.960 You know what I'm saying, intimacy? What is it? Coordinator? Intimate? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 She coordinated the way Dame explained it. 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.040 He was like, no, I was doing the respectful thing. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.760 It would have been disrespectful if I went to her 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.240 like I need you to suck like this, fuck like this. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.240 To me, I felt that was too inappropriately. Watched this, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.240 so I was like, yo, here you go, like, do 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.520 what they do on do what they do? Go in 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.560 the car and come back. Go in the car, got 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.840 seven minutes to get back here. Well, flick the bean. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:22.440 Come back. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.920 Let's get to the scene. Flick the bean, get to 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.840 the scene. How mars, how do you think you're doing 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.679 a scripted sex thy? Not really having sex? Like I've 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.920 thought about that. Would you want that last night? 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:34.560 Underneath you? 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:36.840 Somebody I wasn't at one top. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.679 Wait you have baby, she always shout it. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.480 Feel I would want somebody I wasn't attracted to, Like 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.120 I don't want my biggest crush. You know what I'm 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:52.280 saying as an actor, because then you know, it gets uncomfortable, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:53.560 get real uncomfortable. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.640 It's real. You might get an oscar. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.319 I can't turn myself on, might get an oscar. He 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.559 might slip it in by accident. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.000 See that's why, that's why he needs an intimacy coordinated counselor. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.880 That's essentially because she's into him, is what I'm saying. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.720 Yeah, I can't. I don't think. No, I would rather 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.400 have somebody I'm not attracted to. I've never explained to 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:12.680 explain it because it's work. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.680 It's the same thing where I won't want a podcast 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.400 with somebody that I'm attracted. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.920 To, like it's work. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.200 No, I mean, like, norady, y'all, no, shady, what are 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:21.760 you talking about? 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.760 Why would you want to because if I'm like. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.079 If I find you cute in it, like, it's distract 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:26.800 it's a distraction. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.760 Are you seeing what I'm saying? Because they don't flirting. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.720 I'm not acting like with y'all, I'm actively like being funny, 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.240 being a personality. If I'm attracted to them, like I'm like, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.120 I'm putting on my best riz like it's just it's 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:38.680 a distraction. 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.760 I can I'm an adult. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.800 I can have a coise those two different things, for 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.719 for sure, Like I'm not every day you want to 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.600 be funnier maybe when you're sitting there, but that just 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.760 makes for a better pot. But I could contain myself 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.800 from like really trying to flirt, like because I'm attracted to. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.760 Somebody, it's not even just even if even if you 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.439 aren't acting on it, it's a distraction. Like if I'm 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.880 looking at Rory like damn, yo, he looks so good, 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:03.560 I'm distracted. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:04.040 I can't. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.480 I can't put you pout for a little. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.120 I feel like you could fight through the urges every 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:12.080 day and somebody every day. Oh okay, I was thinking 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:12.560 more like not. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.000 A guess episode, No, every day every day. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.280 Working with somebody every day that you really want to fuck. Yeah, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.199 that's that's tough. At that point, I would probably try 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:24.120 to turn off that. Like now it's we work together, now, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.000 like this is we've decided this is. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.640 Never gonna happen again because we work together. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.920 I'm about to say I've dealt with that, like when 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.720 I was working, Like I've had jobs women that I 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.000 was attracted to, but once you work with them, for 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.240 like three months, you don't even look at them like that. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.120 Yeah, well, once you date some once you get to 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.920 know anyone, a crush is just a lack of information. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.080 So once you know somebody for more than three minutes, 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.920 you'd be like, I understand what, Well, we. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.760 Can go both ways because you can have a crush 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.640 on somebody and then once you really get to know me, like, damn, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:51.720 I really like this person. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.880 I know that, or excuse me, no, go ahead. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.280 Or they can say something that will turtle like turn 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:03.160 you off completely and like you I'm like. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.960 Okay, just put a beep there. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.760 Yes, she was so hot. It's funny that that's here. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:11.680 She was so hot. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.439 It's like, hey, do you have kids or like anything 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.200 like that. That's the one that puts it over the edge. Yeah, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.319 sometimes getting what you wish for is the absolute worst. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.440 Like have you even kind of not I don't want 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.880 to say red flags because that's just like a little annoyances. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:28.079 In the first thirty days, you're like, we'll push through these, 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.440 she's that bad, and then ninety days in you're like, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.800 this is the most annoying, bad bitch I've ever seen 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.600 in my entire I totally understand why nobody has stayed 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.520 with her longer than a year. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.520 Yeah, and then, but not only that, When you're working 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.240 with somebody that's attractive, you first meet them, like, damn, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.120 who's the new girl that just got high? She's bad 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.520 because I've been through that all the homies gold Peak. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.280 She nice after like three months, a couple of conversations, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.880 you like, that's Angela. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.240 Man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. She's cute, but 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.079 this is like, that's Angela like that. Sometimes it works out. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.720 Remember those two news anchors that she on their spouses 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.360 and I think they're together now, Like sometimes that's your soulmate, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:06.800 that's your twin flames sitting next to you. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.000 Yeah, and they. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.440 Probably figured that out on the air. That chemistry showed 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.120 up there that made them get like, you know, fuck 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.120 my family. Yeah, this is where I need to be, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.160 like work in here. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.800 You can't let your family keep you from the love 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:21.840 of your life. M I'm lying more Malan. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.600 That's from the Book of Nigga Damas. I love that book. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:26.439 I read that everything. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.839 The amount of children that have grown up fatherless because 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.920 of that theory and then ended up robbing us is 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.400 it is the reason why you shouldn't do that. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.400 Mom boy had a really cute girl that was working 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.920 in his store, and the other day I was like, yo, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.640 it's the cute because I hadn't seen no every time 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.080 like I go visit, I'm like, yohe's the girl that 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.360 used to work. He'sa nah fired. I was like, damn, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.520 what happened? He's like, Yo, she called out one day 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:49.640 to go protest? 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.760 Isn't that like protected? Like you can't fire somebody for 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.000 that small I'm not on. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.880 The mall side of what the protest is. We don't 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.640 need to put a name on the protest protests I support. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.480 You can't just not go to work that day. You 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.360 can't not go to work because you want to go protest? 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.760 Did protected? This job? Is protect? 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:12.320 You? 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:13.160 Really a company? 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:14.000 All right? 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.680 If that was the case, I could open up my 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.240 phone and find a protest every day every week. 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:19.160 I'm a protest. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.080 But I think that that's I think that's different. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.960 And even that like shit in the in mid twenty 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.880 tens when the protests were going crazy, Yeah, they got 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.160 crazier after six pm because people had to go to work. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.480 Oh yeah, at well, employment in most states like New 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.840 York employers can fire people for any reason, including public protesting. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.160 Yeah, well, I mean I can see how it can 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.360 get into the weeds of what you're protesting this and that. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.000 But if you just be like, yo, I'm not coming 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.800 into work because I'm going to protest, to me, that's 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.240 an easy fire. Like I think there's companies that be like, hey, 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.800 if you fully support this, everyone's going to take the day. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.560 We're taking a Wednesday off for all of us to 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.760 go do that. If you don't want to do it, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.200 take the day off. I could see that. But just 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.280 somebody calling in like. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.800 Nah, I'm going to protest personal. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.000 Oh, I mean you have first of all, you have 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.400 sick days, just saying And that's another thing I never understood, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.920 like when people like even like for example, when me 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.840 and my home girls go on vacation and they like, yo, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:15.520 I don't know what I'm gonna tell about. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.200 Tell them niggas, you ain't coming in. I don't understand 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.680 why you feel like you have to give them an excuse. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.840 Oh I'm sick. Oh, I don't feel good. Oh my 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:24.480 grandmother died. I'm not coming in today for personal reasons. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.680 Period. They don't have to ask you, they ask you. 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.000 I don't. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:29.600 It's it's for personal reasons. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.480 Show them when they fire you, can they say we 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.760 fired you for personal. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.560 They can't fire you for not coming in for personal reasons. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:35.240 They cannot fire it. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.320 If they can have a personal reason for firing you. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.160 I mean it's that well employment, you can fire me, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.920 but you better make sure that you cross your eyes 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.360 and dotted your cues or whatever the fuck, because I'm. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.040 Calling I used to dot my cues. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.480 I mean you kind of cross a Q is just 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.000 an oh, that's like halfway cross. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.160 They gotta splash it or something like that. Whatever, because 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.120 I'm calling them folk. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.400 If it's if it's a one time thing, yeah, of course, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.600 Like you can't ask somebody if that's not their character. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.640 Like they're not calling out or own a blate all 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.560 the time and they're just like, yo, I have some 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:03.600 personal things going on. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.240 Cool, But if that happens all the time, you'll yeah, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.280 but that's anything if anything happens all the time. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.160 I know a lot of parents with some older kids 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.280 that tell me they allow their kids to have a 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.960 few personal days from school. Well, I think that is 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.520 cool and important, and I'm a big advocate of mental health. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:18.640 Put better help ad here. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.280 Life doesn't care about your personal days, Like, are we 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.160 preparing your kids that in the right way? I think 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.360 the real world does not care about your personal shit. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.680 I understand that, but it's not about that. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.200 I don't want my kids to fucking implode and go nuts. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.880 I get it, But I'm still on the side of 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.120 how I was raised, Like, no, you're going to school 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.520 like you even funk about your personal probless. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.320 Not like working for you, like working through your mental 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.440 health issues, coming to work and doing everything you gotta do. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.680 How's that working for you? What do you mean you 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.480 think you're like okay? Or you think you could use 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.800 some personal days. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:58.280 I could definitely use some person I mean myself, I 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.000 could definitely use some personal days. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:00.600 Yeah. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.240 And I think it's case by case basis of what 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.120 happens in school, because school can be a very dangerous, scary, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.480 full of anxiety type of environment for some kids. And 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:14.480 I can identify and understand that. But if you cool 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.199 and you just want to day off, that's not how 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.520 the world works. Okay, you know that's fine with me. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.520 Here's the thing, the world don't work that way. We 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.200 have to put these episodes up I signed a contract. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.440 I have to do this because I said I was 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.160 going to do it, and that's how the world works. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.879 So yeah, even though I don't want to come in 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.000 here on certain days, I'm shoveling my car out Monday 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:34.840 morning with a Mars screaming or fucking head off in 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.480 the backseat, and I'm coming here. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.080 And all of those are choices that you made yourself 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.520 as a kid. You did not make the choice to 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.760 go to school or be born. You actually have no 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.520 say in any of that shit. You don't even gotta 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.919 choose what fucking classes you're taking when you're in middle school. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:48.280 So I mean me. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.520 Personally, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like it's a 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.199 kid by kid basis and a case by case basis. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.080 Like because I know my kid gonna wake me up 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.320 on day, I'm gonna go wake my kid up on day. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:57.080 Yeah, gotta go school. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.600 They gonnaokt me and be like, ma, I really can't 0:17:58.600 --> 0:17:59.960 do it today, And I'm gonna look at them my elf. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.520 We in the house. I can't do it. Togay either're 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:03.080 like whatever. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.480 So here's the thing I'm not saying I even stand 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.879 on either side with this, because I do get in. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:08.639 Listen. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.479 If Amar comes in her room in my room crying 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.520 in fourth grade of saying like I just can't do 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.200 it today, you think I'm gonna turn into a drill sergeant. No, 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.280 my fucking heart is gonna melt and I'm gonna be like, 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.560 just stay here, I'll hug you. But as my freshman 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.200 football coach said every single time, if you quit during 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.000 double sessions, yeah it'll be easy. Nothing wrong will happen 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.320 in your life, but it'll make the next thing easier 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.520 to quit. And then you'll just start a fucking pattern 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.040 of quitting when things are a little rough that morning, 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.560 and now you're just this fucking soft person that's gonna 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.440 sit there like, well, the last time I said I 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.040 wasn't going into school, everything was fine, and then that 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:45.959 just leads to you doing it all the time, and 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.680 now you a fucking dropout. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.280 And now you're stuck behind seven to eleven for OxyS 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.520 exactly because oxies make you feel better. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:53.679 You didn't want to go to school. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:56.520 So, I mean, I see both sides. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.399 I guess I'm asking everyone in the room what that 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.200 balance looks like, that's all, but I don't have the answer. 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:04.960 My nephew has this new thing of where he says 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.639 it's illegal. So like he told my sister it's illegal 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.040 for kids to go outside when it's twenty degrees, like 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.000 that's going to keep them going to school. But he 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:15.840 don't know what it's illegal for the teachers to take 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.440 them outside for recess. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.440 So he but he thinks it's illegal to just leave 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:26.639 the house like this. Nigga tried all not to know 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:27.240 it's illegal. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.560 Nigga, you getting on that bus, you will be outside 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.160 for ten seconds, then get on a hot bus. You 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.119 get off the bus. It's school for ten seconds to 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.240 go into hot school building. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.000 Now I kind of I respect that more than a 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.040 mental health day. At least you're trying to work the 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.800 system that's working you. Yeah, he's like, it's not legal 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.679 for kids. I see what I'm trying to do. It's 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.680 illegal for real to take. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.600 Kids outside for recess if it's below thirty five degrees. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:52.520 I think something like that. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.880 But he thinking like once he here, it's illegal for kids. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.080 He thinking like, oh no, I can't even leave my house. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.800 Just illegal for me to leave the house. Like that's 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.720 the keep you trying to play that card. Now, that's 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.439 so cute. Yeah, he'll be in school tomorrow. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:04.640 That see. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.639 That would almost convince me like you made a good argument. 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.040 You're wrong as fuck. But I appreciate the attention now 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.680 that I ain't working on my sister. That ain't happen, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:11.639 of course not. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:13.760 I feel like there's a balance. I feel like I would. 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.160 I would from the beginning of school year you get 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.040 you get two mental health days a school year to 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.760 a school year, I feel like that's but what. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.680 We're doing during those mental health days? You playing Xbox 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:28.840 if that's what you need to do. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.480 You've had mental health days from school? 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.879 Uh, well, back I couldn't do that. My mother was like, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.960 go to school. I just would skip, like you see 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:39.719 what I'm saying, So like, that's not something new that 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:40.880 that kids are just not doing. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:41.960 Why didn't you want to go to school? 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:42.160 Though? 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:48.399 There were times where, especially middle school, it's just so 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.520 especially as a girl, there's so much drama and just 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.520 weird shit that's going on, and people that are supposed 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.320 to be your friends are talking behind your back, and 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.440 then somebody's messing with a boy they're not supposed to 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:00.080 be with, And when you're young, you just feel you. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:01.760 Don't want to go to school because people have told Maha, 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.200 you're back, just it could be anything. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.800 When you're a kid, shit just feels heavier, like and 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.960 I know that sucks, But that doesn't change in the office. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.280 That doesn't change in adult worlds. No, it doesn't. It 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.720 does not change. And it sucks to say that. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.119 You kind of have to get not used to it 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.959 or think it's okay, but get exposed to it so 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.119 it doesn't affect you in a way that's gonna cripple 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:24.919 you as an adult. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.080 But shit like that goes on for a week, two weeks. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.320 If you take me one one day out of that 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.800 two weeks, it's not like you're avoiding the problem. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.000 It's just like, yo, today, I can't deal with this shit. 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.400 I hip check kids at the playground that even touching 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.439 marrow Like, I'm with you. If I find out that 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.199 there's been a week that she's been bullied by the 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.320 same group of girls, is yeah, it's gonna be time. 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:45.560 What's their last names? 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:48.000 Yeah, with my address dot com, we find on their 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:49.880 parents and we're going from there. 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.639 Bully and I would never let my kid run from now. 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:55.600 You're not running from bullying. But when sometimes shit you're 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.160 just overwhelmed, Like you got a lot of fucking homework, 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.320 you got all these fucking classes. Shit not go right 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.480 with your friends, You got sports, you got that. Sometimes kids, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.359 I get overwhelmed as an adult from dealing with a 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.200 whole bunch of shit. So when you're a kid and 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:09.159 you got all that going on, it's not weird for 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.240 you to get overwhelmed. So I used to skip, Like 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.119 I would skip a class or skip two classes and 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.960 go put my fucking headphones on, put on all the 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.399 Drake Raars from YouTube, and sit underneath the steps with 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:20.040 my headphones in. 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:21.720 And he was one of those first time classes. He 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:23.960 was one of the weird girls. I wasn't if I 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:25.399 saw you sitting under bleach, I was like it was 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:26.560 weird or right what she doing? 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.240 Not the bleeding, but like in the basement where the 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.199 gym is, like where nobody really goes, you know, the 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.640 art class basement shit like that. 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.240 Yeah, and just be have my hoodie on with my headphones. 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:36.400 Is just being my own little girl. 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.119 But I mean, of course there's stuff wrong with that. 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.160 But I don't think what I'm saying is. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:41.600 What you're saying. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.520 It I skipped school all the time, and it wasn't 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.359 to do progressive things. But I mean it's still with 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.879 things that taught me about life. Like I wasn't literally 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.560 just being like, yo, I'm so anxious just so I 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.640 could trick my mom so I could play PS two 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.400 for the rest of the day. Like that's where I'm 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.520 saying the meta to hell shit could just be used 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:03.920 and which is a perfect segue to yay, which we'll 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:04.159 get to. 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:08.240 But I mean that's what I'm more on the side of, Well, you're. 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:09.159 Not about just because you don't feel like going to 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:12.320 school that day doesn't mean that you're not going to. 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:12.920 School that day. 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.040 Yeah, well I think that that makes sense. But your 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.080 kids know how to manipulate you. You know how to 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.119 manipulate your parents. I knew how to manipulate mine. 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:19.840 On work system. 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.119 Yeah, like your kids know how to manipulate you. So 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.160 you could say, my kid won't be able to get 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.000 this or get this one off, but your kid will 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:28.440 be able to get one off, and as a parent, 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:29.359 you just got to learn to. 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:29.719 Deal with that. 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.320 I mean, I think it's it's not even your kid 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:33.840 getting it off. I think you know when your kid 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.120 is trying to be slick, and sometimes as a parent, 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.800 you just feel like, you know what, you can stay home, 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.040 but you know what they pulling. You know they're not sick. 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.760 You're like, yo, you just had those days where kids 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.160 just don't want to get it. You've had those days 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.800 you don't want to get up, get dressed, go to school, 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:51.520 like just was tired or whatever, but you weren't sick 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.440 like I used to to pay I don't feel good, 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.760 I feel great. I just didn't feel like getting on 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.159 the train, going all the way to hall them and 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.280 going to school. I didn't feel like doing that. But 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.639 I wasn't sick. I wasn't at home coughing and it had 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.600 a fever, none of that. I just I'm like, damn, 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.200 I gotta get I gotta go to school. 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.680 Especially days like this, going to school, school outside, it's 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:10.720 nasty outside. 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.679 I'm like, man, this is for what? But then I noticed. 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.000 That there be times where you feel like that you 0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.120 go to school before you know the school day is over. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.760 School really isn't that bad? School is? 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:22.640 I used to enjoy school when I was a kidd 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.240 So school is fun. Some days it ain't, but school 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:26.600 is usually fun, especially. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.480 School not fun like what was it about that day 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:32.280 where it was like school didn't feel fun today? It 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.440 was probably something petty like you ain't money, your homegirls 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:37.520 was beefing about something. 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.199 I wasn't speaking. But when you're in a. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.240 You liked like you saw him holding another girl's hand 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.440 in all way like the other period, like now. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.800 All of a sudden, this week sucks. It's like, no, 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.880 it doesn't. This week is fine. 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.920 Like you just are upset about something, and as a kid, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.960 you don't know how to handle your emotions and things 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:57.600 like that, so you run from it. I don't want 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.359 to go today. I'm not going to school. Why I 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.200 don't feel good? That's not that's not why that boy 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.359 didn't call you back, or he's he's flirting with another girl, 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.080 or you don't want to deal with that. And I 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.320 think as parents you know that because you dealt with 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.240 it right, and then when it's your turn you have kids, 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.359 you know like okay, and that's where you have the 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:17.680 conversation with your kids, like, yo, so. 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.080 What's going on, what's going on in school? What happened? 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.119 Because you know it ain't that they sick. It's not 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:23.760 your kid is not sick. Kid is fine. 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.840 They just don't feel like dealing with the social aspect 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:29.399 of being in the school today. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:30.959 That's what it is. 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:31.359 Now. 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.639 Before you get to that, I got to tell you something. 0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:38.760 We're back responsor abut boostmow Wi unlimited talk, texts and data. 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.199 Perfect segue. I don't know what it's like to be 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:42.720 in school. 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.440 Now with the phone, I can assume a lot more 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.360 weird bullying, weird drama, shit. 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:47.840 Oh my god. 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.480 I wish I had a smart phone in high school, 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.240 so I don't know smart Maybe I would need a 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.199 mental health day if I had a smartphone in junior 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.080 high and high school, Like, yeah, maybe I would have 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.000 needed one. Because this is not I can't even escare 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.639 all the way to midnight. I'm able to talk with 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.560 everybody that I go to high school with. 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.199 So they want to take the phrase they want to 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.280 take the phones out of I mean, but I could 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:11.360 we were talking. 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.639 Don't get me wrong, but come on, when I was 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.800 different between then and now. 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.600 Facebook and Twitter we're big. When I was in high school, we. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.840 Had my Space and Facebook, but like it wasn't like 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:23.960 we didn't live and breathe it. 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.399 Now we lived and breathe Facebook. 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.680 When I was envy, I envy kids being in high 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.720 school now to have like Instagram and ship. 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:31.439 Nah, I wish I had that. 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:31.600 No. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.040 I imagine if I had a smartphone in between classes, 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:35.879 I get the interview kids in the school by how 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.720 they feeling, Like I would pod in between classes like 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.760 real quick three minutes, like yo, so how you felt 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:41.560 about that last class? 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:42.600 You jacking the teacher? 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:46.359 Jacking the teacher? I would be little. I don't know what. 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.479 Like social media. If I had it, I'm out there 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.720 even doing like teacher recaps for the underclassmen, like you 0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.800 could go back a year to CEO, I took the 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:55.320 same class. 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.480 Look at all my reviews. Yeah, give me your teacher reviews. 0:26:58.119 --> 0:26:58.520 For the day. 0:26:58.600 --> 0:26:59.320 Well they have that. 0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.919 Well it's mainly in college rate my professor dot com 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.000 because I used to use that. But these you have 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:06.879 to understand these kids from what I see my friends kids, 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:11.520 my ex'es daughter, like, they have so much pressure on 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.960 them because, for example, the girls. 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.200 Have it's just too much access. 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.480 So now these eighteen year old girls, seventeen year old 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.200 girls don't look eighteen, don't look seventeen. 0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:21.560 They got bussed on weaves. 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.879 They out here wearing the same shit that we wearing 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.080 we got the same fashion over a fucking outfit on 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.880 and then the little boys that are competing with them 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.639 are competing with these niggas that are playing fucking college hoops. 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.560 Because everybody has access to everybody, everybody feels like they 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.040 should look the way everybody else looks. On Instagram, there's 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.480 no blurred lines of this person is an adult and 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.960 this person is a teenager. It's very weird for them. 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:44.600 The kids are coming home asking poor kids, not regular 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.600 kids like not like well off kids, like poor kids. 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.600 We from the hood niggas, These little niggas asking for 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.560 Mary's for their birthday, for they fifteenth birthday for high school? 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.680 What why you want thousand dollar jeans? Y're all competing, 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:57.680 Like why are y'all? 0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:58.439 It's weird. 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.320 It's very very. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.760 They don't notice, like two pairs black jeans, blue jeans, 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.600 that's what you got that first that it lasts. 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.800 For the whole year of school, the old the old schools, 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.680 beef and BROCCOLI's. What was the first day of school 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.800 shoes old schools, beef and broccoli. 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:12.760 Even brocks on the first day. 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:19.120 Per Jordan's it was old schools, old school white on whites. Uh, 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.080 the air Force ones school we call them old schools. 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:24.840 In Upstates, there was. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.800 Always that was always old schools. 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:32.040 Old schools. That's crazy. I've never heard that before, white 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.520 on whites or old schools. 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.000 I didn't even notice that that was Upstate slang until 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.440 y'all just didn't know what I was talking about old schools. 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:40.920 I've never heard air forces we called old schools. 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.160 And how cold did you said on the first day 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.200 of school? You were in beefing brons We used to. 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.040 They used to wear that ship like it was cool, 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.239 like it was I love beefing like you didn't. There 0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:49.960 was no snow on the ground. 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.120 Niggas just put the their version of trying to steal 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.440 beefing brox is these so but the. 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.720 First got mont Clear sneaker slash boots. I like these boots. 0:28:58.760 --> 0:28:59.200 Good boot. 0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.960 Yeah, I mean it's elements outside, run. 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.400 From police, jump over snow banks. Yeah. 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.120 Before we get to Kanye taking his mental health day 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.960 from school, how did you guys handle handle the snowstorm? 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:12.800 Because the marus was talking like we was locked up 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.560 for a week. I had to remind her that the 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.240 snow day was twelve hours. 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.760 I know, but I ain't left the crib since Thursday 0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:19.480 when we recorded. 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.320 I think because of your health scare, you were already 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:26.240 like locked up and then you had a day of 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.240 freedom and then parole came locking. 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:29.760 Yeah, you had to go right back. 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:30.320 Yeah. 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:32.320 And like I said, like I was telling Rory, I'm like, yo, 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.280 I love being single, Like being single is for me. 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.920 But when all your homegirls is like they locked in 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.120 with a nigga, you just in the house. 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.320 I was in the house rocking like this. 0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:41.640 You only watched so much Law and Order, like you 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.959 only deal with so much rape. 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.000 So I'm just sitting in there, like, but that's. 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:46.400 Why you got to get off a Law and Order 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.560 and watch something else. You can't be watching a Law 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.040 and Order and you locked in the house. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:52.600 That's torture, that's a snow that's a snow day special 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.240 though order and a mental health is sick day. 0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:56.160 You just watched Long Order. 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.320 But like three to four days I was in there, man, 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.840 I was just cooking random shit like shit don't even 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.640 go together. Why am I boiler apples? Like I'm just 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.240 doing shit, you know what I'm saying, Like. 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.719 Yo, I did the same fucking thing. I made wings 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.320 in the crockpot. Early so they could cook for like 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.200 six hours for the second game. And then I was 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.480 just I bought all this food for no fucking reason. 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.800 I started making bowling. A's and my daddy's like, wait, 0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.400 we got chicken wings over here. 0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:21.440 You about to make bowling it. 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.240 I was like, I'm making everything, just putting shit together today, probably. 0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:26.640 Up grocery shopping was dumb. 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:28.720 I was like, I bought all I bought these groceries 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.280 and I cooked breakfast. 0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:30.719 That was it. 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.600 Everything else I was just like, you, dam I have 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.040 nothing to eat, and I was just looking at shit 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:35.960 in the fridge like bro. 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.920 I did an insta car order. My original instacr order 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.160 was one hundred and twenty dollars. My final receipt was 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.200 only forty five dollars because nothing was available to the niggas. 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:49.200 Ain't have avocados, green beans, green peppers, sliced cheese, sliced turkey. 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.000 I said, you niggas with what day was? Day was this? 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:53.440 This was Saturday morning? 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.680 Oh nah, you're a rookie. I know was supposed to Friday, Thursday. 0:30:56.680 --> 0:31:01.360 Friday's supposed to get that Saturday morning. That's the apocalypse 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:05.240 is twelve hours you supposed to get that days before. 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.600 You wait till twelve twelve hours left before the apocalypse. 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.440 Nah, it ain't gonna be nothing on the shelves. 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.880 My homegirls mitching Major shout to Mitchell Major that I 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.720 told them Thursday. I'm like, Yo, listen, y'all better get 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.040 some groceries because it's gonna be you know, I mean, 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.080 Sunday is gonna be rough. 0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.680 Ye, I ain't gonna be like. It ain't gonna be nothing. 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:22.400 They always say that. 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:27.400 I'm like, all right, guess who facetied me together Sunday afternoon? 0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:32.520 Agree to Why they ain't got no groceries. I'm looking 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.760 at the phone. I told y'all Thursday, go get groceries. 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.920 Everybody thought this storm Piege was another one, like, nah, 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:38.760 this storm is weak. 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.959 It is weak, but everybody else perception is everything. Everybody 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.560 else acted like it was the worst shit in the world. 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.400 So now groceries ain't available because everybody took it like 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:48.120 everybody went great. 0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.120 No, the storm wasn't weak though. That was a legit 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:50.800 snowstorm we. 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.240 Got, Yeah, but it wasn't that bad. What I'm from upstate, 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.600 that was nothing. If I get like today, I was 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.640 able to walk outside it's not that bad. 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.080 Well that's because they do a great job of, you know, 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.320 shoveling the sidewalks and things like that. But it's a 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:09.000 lot of snow outside for this era. Yeah, that's a 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.120 lot of snow for the last four or five years. Yes, 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:12.360 this was a lot. 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.280 But back to kids that take mental health days, it 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.040 was fine though, Like it really wasn't that that crazy. Yeah, 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.400 this used to be a very regular thing. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.520 But I was happy that. 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.240 Major in them because I mean, they'll deliver I don't 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.160 know what they deliver, food to meat or hurricane. 0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.640 Well Major Major had food from Saturday that she ordered 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.440 and didn't eat, so she ate that Sunday, so she 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.240 had to live like a fugitive for twenty four hours. 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.640 But I'm sure she's fine. 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.160 Do you, I mean, I know not. 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.440 Now, how do you decide who your companion is going 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.720 to be for the snow day when you're. 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.400 Single, you don't do what you've always done. 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.400 She comes through that night and when you wake up, 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:54.920 she snowed in. 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.040 Nah, you're setting up for the no no no. If 0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:59.880 a girl came to see you Saturday, she knew she 0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:01.200 was staying with you all day Sunday. 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.200 Fair no woman knew she was not leaving your house. 0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.479 But if you're like somebody like Pea's like, now, it's 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:06.920 gonna be fine. 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:07.920 I'll just leave in the morning. 0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.280 Because there's been times with inclement weather that I went 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.200 to somebody's house like I leave in the morning, and 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.920 then there was no way I was leaving the rookies. 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.560 I would never learning experience. 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.440 I would never go to a woman's house planning to 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.480 leave the next day when it's supposed to be a snowstorm. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.040 If I go to Onoe's house and the day before snowstorm, 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.040 I plan on staying there through the snowstorm, there's no 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:28.800 I'm stuck here. 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.160 Yeah, not stuck nowhere. Isn't grown man, it's not happening, 0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.880 all right. So see you did it, Dolo Dolo watched 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:35.880 the games chilled in the crib. That was it, man. 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.040 I had food. I had some hot cocoa. 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:39.520 I was good. That it's cute. 0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.000 Yeah, that was it, all right? You vegan so it 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.640 was with water. That's nasty. You got me twisted. You 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.480 think I drink hot chocolate with water? Yeah? 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.800 What else would you do with oat milk? Same thing 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.000 you put in your coffee? Yeah, that's it is vegan. Yeah, 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:58.680 always got jeve water. Really carrots carrots is funny? Fuck 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.360 up carrots all charity? You hate carrots all day Sunday. 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.880 I didn't think I didn't think you were Rudolph. 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.160 I just you know, no, yeah, be backing like yeah 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.600 oat milky never had that's. 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:11.680 Actually the only I've had it. 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.759 I've had it. Well yeah, fire, okay. 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.480 Yet, Maul, I see that Demerius is over there on 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.279 a phone that is not the all new iPhone Pro 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.399 seventeen designed to be the most powerful iPhone ever. 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:29.560 Is that Is that a flip phone? Yeah? 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.040 Are you concerned about traffic or someone trying to transfer 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:33.640 all your data? 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.640 You got no snowstorm updates on that phone? 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.040 Well, good news to Maris. 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It 0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:17.879 took out a whole ad, because I don't even think 0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:18.640 it's an article. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.240 I just think he took out a long ass ad 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.720 in the Wall Street Journal, starting out. 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.120 With to those I've hurt, and I mean, I'll save 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.640 everyone for the time for the most party, suggesting that 0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:32.800 after his accident that we all know started through the wire, 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.680 he said that that damaged his frontal lobe, which could have, 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:43.840 you know, led him to further further diagnosis of bipolar disorder. 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.200 Doctors were telling me he had, you know, small signs 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:52.120 of autism to begin, but he was suggesting that this 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.160 went undiagnosed and untreated, and it led him to hurt 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.720 a lot of people. It led him to loving the swastika. 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.840 It's who owns lexus? Because I know Kanye hit his 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.600 face on the steering wheel of his Lexus when he 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.600 got in a car accident. I'm just curious how that 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:09.719 landed on a swastika. 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:14.520 But yeah, well, because he probably hit the lexus logo, 0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.400 and then and then it kind of good. 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.919 Yeah, it's kind of like how you reversed the chat 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:24.200 GBT logo and it turns in never mind. So yeah, 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.160 he was apologizing for a lot of his behavior over 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.239 the years. He's he understands that he's hurt a lot 0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:34.120 of people. He went into a long, long description of 0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.480 what bipolar is and how it's diagnosed, and how the 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.920 doctors that he had suggested that that wasn't the case. 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.520 And now his wife, after he hit rock bottom, suggested 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.719 that he get some more help. And I think now 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.359 he is fully accepted that he does have bipolar type 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.239 one and he wanted to apologize to everyone the week 0:36:54.280 --> 0:37:02.080 before Bully comes out. So yeah, I don't forgive him no, no, 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.759 I see, I want to see what you're gonna say, 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:05.520 because everyone cares about mental health. 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:06.920 It's time to care about mental health. 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:07.640 Who's up? 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:09.960 I like this because I. 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.280 Think every white actor that has lost his fucking mind 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:17.000 off drugs, done some wild shit on Hollywood Boulevard always 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.240 has their moment when they sit down with fucking Diane 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.200 Sawyer and like, yo, I was going crazy, I had 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:22.960 mental health, and we. 0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.120 All wrap our arms around them and love them. 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:26.000 No, we don't. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.200 White actors are allowed to have fucking mental breakdowns and 0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:31.600 then get right back to the place they were supposed 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.520 to be. No. I have been on this pod saying 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.080 millions of things I disagree with Kanye West about not true, 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:38.879 But now I'm saying, why can't he get the same 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.680 luxury as as as fucking other people? 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:45.320 That's not true because if that's the case, nobody forgave 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:46.439 mel Gibson for his rant. 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.640 He was just on Joe Rogan where everyone's like, yo, 0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:49.880 it's go. 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:51.520 I don't mean that, don't mean that, don't mean that. 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.600 Don't mean people forgave him and wrap their arms around him. 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.080 Nobody forgave whole Colgan he's still a racist. 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:56.759 Well he's dead. 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.440 He probably has more reason to have CTE and concussions 0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:00.440 than anybody. 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.520 He's been getting body slams for seven or if you. 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:06.439 Don't think people forgave Hulk Hogan, Hulk Hogan never had 0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:11.280 a never once did it bro when he died. 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.759 When he died and people was posting about him on 0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.360 social media, they were people clowning people for that, like, oh, 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:18.759 y'all are really okay? 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.719 Social media is not a real place to what you're saying. 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:22.879 It doesn't matter what people saying. Where did he ever 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.400 take a loss in fame, money, jobs? 0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:26.839 Never? 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:28.839 His career only went up. 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:29.640 Never. 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.439 The more videos we got him cucking someone else's wife 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:33.439 and using the N word. 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.799 Don't I think he got another w W deal. No, 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:36.279 I don't think so. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.000 I don't think after that, Like, well, he was probably 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:40.040 already done wrestling. 0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:41.120 He was definitely done. 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.120 No, no, no, I mean like he kept working. He was 0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.200 still the face of what wrestling was. He did commentating, 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.080 like Hulk Hogan never went away. He had reality shows, 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:50.560 he had. 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.839 He didn't do no commentating talking about Yeah, like what 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:54.520 are you talking about? 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.640 Because he's a heel. You guys don't understand the game, 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.759 Like you don't understand the fact that people did not 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.960 forgive him. You really think h Cogan was canceled people? 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.719 Yes, yes, people were mad that people were saying rest 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:06.600 in peace to hole Kogan. 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.440 Okay, but okay, so here's a godcast thing I'm saying. 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.840 Here's this thing. Negativity tends to be commented, right. People 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:14.600 don't comment good things. The only common bad things. So 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.000 if you go in a comment section and it's full 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.120 of bad things. It doesn't mean that people only think 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.680 bad things. It just means that people who have negative opinions, 0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.920 I'm more likely to comment. That doesn't mean that nobody 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.439 forgave him. That's not true. There's plenty of people, I'm sure. 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.239 I'm sure some of his hardcore fans, the majority of him. 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.319 I'm saying that, look at the audience. They don't care 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.520 about him being racist. He was never forgiven for that though, 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.400 And I'm about our community. He was never forgiven for that. 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.160 Okay, that's a that's in our community. 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.200 But he probably had He probably had a lot of 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:41.880 black front to lob a juries. 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.319 He probably had concussions. 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.080 I'm pretty sure he could have used the same excuse 0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.879 of I hit my head and my frontal low was there. 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:49.440 He could have. 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.560 But everybody has always known that. Kanye's family has been 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.000 coming out and saying that he was bipolar for years 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:57.160 and that he needs to take meds. 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:58.560 He was the one fighting against it. 0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.960 But people have come out forever and said Kanye is bipolar, 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:01.840 he needs to take mets. 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.359 That's not like that. This isn't a new like thing. 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.439 No, his mania, even twenty fifteen, he was doing stuff 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:12.600 with stone Cold Steve Austen as WW tough is enough 0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:18.319 that he was a commentator on like He's he kept going, 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:19.000 he was a judge. 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:20.640 He was a judge on the sixth season of this. 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.360 Yeah, you can't get canceled when the when by this 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.440 by yourself fan base. So Hogan can't be canceled by 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.359 black people, like that's not his main fan base. Kank 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.200 just the same thing, Like Kanye can't be completely canceled 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.000 by white people like they white people. If all white 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.360 people start hitting Kanye, it doesn't mean that Kanye is canceled. 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.120 Kanye came from the black community. We brought him up 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.600 and pitched him, so it's up to suggested to cancel him. 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:43.440 And we did not do that. 0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.440 We tried, we fake tried, but we never collectively came 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.320 and canceled Kanye, like Kanye was not really canceled. 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.200 Oh you can be canceled. You wake up and see 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.440 that being't in your account no more, that's canceled. That's 0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.880 the only cancel. I can't okay what you think is 0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:58.399 the social media. 0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:01.760 I'm curious because you that is good or I've been canceled. 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.760 You've said for years on podcasts in which I've agreed 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.120 and been staying corrected a lot of times with you, 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.480 Like when we went to the Daniel Caesar show at 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.880 in an Arena, You've said nobody has ever been canceled, 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.920 Like you can't really get canceled. 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:19.360 Hogan was not canceled. 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:23.919 I will say, I say, your fans don't cancel you, Okay, 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.640 people that supported you. Whenever you see somebody being canceled 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.120 or people calling for somebody to be canceled, nine times 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.719 out of ten, it's somebody that never even supported them. 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.960 It's never your fans. Because if you say something right now, Rory, 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.759 your fans not on Netflix, well not on Netflix, but 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:43.319 your fans probably know the context. They probably know you 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:44.759 know what I mean. 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:48.520 Yeah, I don't supported me. They know you. They follow you. Now, 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:49.919 somebody that don't know you know, followed. 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.120 They just hear something here a clip They were, oh 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:53.520 what is he? 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:54.480 Oh he's canceled. 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.400 They don't know you, they don't know the tone, they 0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.560 don't know the context, they don't know they don't get 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.400 your humor. So when you see people trying to be canceled, 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.640 calling if for somebody to be canceled, find somewhere would 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.080 they ever even supported who they were trying to cancel. 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.839 Yeah, no, that's why I said I stand corrected when 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.080 you've said that before. So that's why I'm going with 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:15.560 the same logic that you have here. I don't think 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.360 hul Cogan was ever really canceled. I think when he died, yes, 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.279 there was people on Twitter that were mad, especially at 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.279 black people, that were saying the rest in peace to him, 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:27.040 But I don't think that equates. 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.960 To him being canceled per se. 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.600 And Kanye, for the most part, if you were to 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.000 have a definition of it, yes, it would be him 0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.680 going on Drink Champs and saying I could say anti 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.120 Semitic things and Adidas would never drop me, and then 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.160 Adidas dropped him the fucking two days later. 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:42.959 Yes, that's a vert. 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.600 But not all of us have access to things that 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.279 can really be canceled more or less. Like I don't 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.040 have a billion dollars and if a company has the 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.879 ability to take that away from me, yeah, you kind 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.440 of just fucking canceled me. But Kanye, in his own right, 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.840 despite even the insane things he's done, is an extremely 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.880 creative and smart guy. Even if you take a billion 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.160 dollars from him, He's going to find a way to 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.840 make fun money. He's not a fluke as far as creativity. 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.920 No, No, he's talent. His talent is legit. So why this? 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:12.200 Why this? Now? 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.759 Do we think this is something that he actually feels? 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:17.200 Well, that's what I was going to say. 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:19.920 The one thing that I don't like about this the 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.239 whole ad or page in a Wall Street. All of 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.960 this is performative to me if Kanye, because I don't 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.319 we I think we all in this room, Kanye did 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.360 not write none of this. We know that he approved it. 0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.359 He read it and said, okay, put it out. Those 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:33.160 are not his words. 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.719 Now he's admitted to ghost writers before. Now I think rhyme, 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.040 fester consequence. Really, I think that that wasn't a shot. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.600 If he felt like this, right, if he felt like this, 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.560 If this is indeed, why won't he just say it? 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.160 He can go live on his social media, he can 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.280 put out a post a video and just saying like, yo, listen, 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.879 I got help, you know whatever whatever this and then 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.520 the Belly the Bully album coming up. 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.920 It's just performative. This is just promo. This feels like promo. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:02.960 It feels performative. 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.279 It feels like, you know, because we know Kanye and 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.120 we know that when he does this, it'sues because he's 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.120 getting ready to sell us something. So now it's like 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.840 the boy cry wolf. I don't look at this, and 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.799 I'm like, damn yay. Like Damara said, we been kind 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.319 of saying these things about Kanye. Hear is like, yo, 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.120 is he all right? He seems to be you know, 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:21.920 his emotions all over the place, like is he okay? 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.319 Like he need to get help things. So, yes, we've 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.080 been saying these things because we're watching it and from 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.399 our lens, it looked like this was somebody that we 0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:32.880 once knew and then now this is a whole different person. 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.040 Something seems a bit off about this person. Cool, now, 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.080 if this is in fact true and all that. First 0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.359 of all, we hope that he's getting the help that 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.799 he needs. We hope that, you know, he physically, that 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.359 he's getting better than taking care of himself. I don't 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.000 think that he should be in a state like this 0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.120 and you know, jumping right back into putting out music, 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:53.640 because then now you have to you know, you have 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.920 to travel, you have to perform, you have to do this, 0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:57.680 you have to do that, And it's like okay, but 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.240 now you're putting mental phys health to the back burner 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.680 of the rigorous grind of I have something to sell, 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.000 I have music out, I have to perform. I have 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.480 to be away from family, friends, you know, doctors or whatever. 0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.000 Like take if this is really what it is, take 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:18.880 the time to address this, get better, because now cool, 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:20.160 all these words have said. 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.160 We read this beautiful Wall Street. 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.719 Ad and all of this. What happens if a month 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:29.520 from now we get another rent and after the Bully 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.160 album is out and you know, we all hear it 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:32.960 and love. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.000 It or hate it. What happens when we get the 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.320 next rant? 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:37.440 Yeah? 0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.080 Like, then what is it like? You know what I mean? 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.080 So that's why I'm just like, I get it. 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.719 But to me, Wall Street Ad and all it it 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.400 just feels a little, a little stage, a little performative. 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:51.600 So I know. 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:56.560 He did an interview with Justin Leboy again, which by 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.280 the time we're recording this, I don't think it's out, 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.840 but the idea and see a clip yesterday that he 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.480 was talking about Bully being very positive. He felt like 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.919 it's his miseducation as far as every bar mattering, there's 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:09.879 nothing wasted there. 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.680 It is all about positivity. 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.160 He said, it's more like his Narls Barkley type of 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:16.799 album more than it would be eight A Weights because 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.239 Ata Waits even had Heartbreak in it, it was not 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.520 negative per se, but there's I mean, even if you 0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.880 get into the depths of atow Eights and where that 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.440 even goes with the devil, it's dark tones. He's saying 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.759 this is very much as positive and happy moment, and 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:33.680 then the next day he puts this out, I'm with 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.200 you more of its performative because he's trying to sell 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:41.359 us something. But what's wrong if artists do that? Like 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.919 even when Frank Ocean, Even when Frank Ocean came out 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:44.640 and said, Yo, you. 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:49.080 Using mental health, I'm as an excuse for your actions. 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.799 I don't think mental health gives you an excuse to 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.640 be an asshole, but it is a conversation to be had. 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:59.239 And I think Yay has had been an habitual line 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.080 crosser with all of that. And I'm not here to 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.400 defend Kanye in anything that he has said, even with 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.880 the excuse of mental health, because he clearly did ignore 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:08.400 it even when the people around. 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.320 Him were trying to tell him. 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.640 But if you get into bipolar this, and that doesn't 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.520 change anything, but some acknowledgment here. This is the most 0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.600 humble we've ever seen Kanye. But I'm with you. I 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:17.440 don't think he wrote a word. 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:22.200 Yeah, the most humble. This is the most humble. He 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.600 didn't write that. What are you talking about? 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:27.080 Some people can feel a way and not know how 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.000 to articulate their thoughts, right. Some people just suck at 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.959 articulating their thoughts. We've seen from people in this room, 0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:34.960 and sometimes when you're trying to explain yourself and you're 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:35.919 not good at it, you make sure. 0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.160 Kanye is very good at articulating his thoughts may probably 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:40.239 one of the best people ever. 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.080 Can be good articulating your thoughts in a rap about 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:44.719 a subject. 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:46.800 No, no, no, it wasn't no beat on when he articulated 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.160 somebody's thoughts. 0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.520 What I'm saying is when you're talking about something that's 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.440 sensitive to you, that you're still dealing with inside yourself. 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.120 And I'm not making excuses for Kanye, just generalized. It 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.040 can be. We come on this podcast and talk about 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.480 shit every day. Shit just fly out our mouth. We're witty, 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.120 we're funny, we're quick when we're talking about something that 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:07.120 has affected our lives. We ruined our lives. I've ruined 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.600 my family. Yeah, my words don't come out as smoothly, 0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:11.440 so I might need some help. I don't think that 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.759 there's anything wrong with that. I'd rather him do that 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.319 than to go sit in front of a computer and 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.160 let his thoughts and his mouth run away with him, 0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.239 and then he says something in the wrong way and 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.880 it's articulated wrong. People take it the wrong way, so 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.000 they write it up how they want it to be heard. No, 0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.440 he went and got a professional. This is how I feel. 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.800 Can you make this sound good? I don't think that 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:32.680 there's anything wrong with that. I don't think I don't 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:34.839 think it makes it any less sincere. 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:37.759 Pr, Yeah, that's publicist, that's what they do. 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.160 And even with this, Justin the boyd that it's gonna 0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.839 come out probably on his channel or whatever. The last 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:44.759 few ones did they have the edit button, Like he 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.440 can go on a rant and then they can, you know, 0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.000 Justin the Boy and be like oh damn, like they'll 0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:50.840 they'll find a way to cure it. 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:52.840 So I don't think that's bad. 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.200 But I'm asking if you think this is from a 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:59.200 genuine place, or is this now, because Kanye becomes the 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.560 theme of every album if you've noticed, and I'm not 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:03.640 trying to do the Kanye nerd thing, but yeesus. He 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:08.480 became that fucking brash, insane person for that project. Might 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.399 be with Dark Swiss to Fantasy, he became the cool, 0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:11.800 suave we only wearing suits. 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:15.279 He becomes what the album is. He's a manic fucking artist. 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.640 Because Bully is supposed to be so positive and now 0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.000 he's sitting with Justin le Boyce saying it's his miseducation. 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.560 Is this just a rollout or is this really where 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:25.319 his brain is at? 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:26.360 It's a rollout. 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.560 I've never seen Kanye apologize for a fuck thing he's 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.560 ever said. What Kanye be out here apologizing for shit 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:35.960 that he say. 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.879 Yeah, he's apologized before. 0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.320 I'm sure he's up. We've all apologized before, but Kanye 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:44.840 has never the latest. Kanye has never taken full accountability 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.840 for his mental health and the horrible ship that he 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.040 said in the way that it's affected. 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.319 Now, I will say, you're right there. 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:54.560 He's never directly, you know, attached it to mental health 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.759 and the car accident and frontal load damage and all 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:56.960 of that. 0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:58.719 I think no, I think the frontal load damnite ship. 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:00.400 I think that's a cop out. Me person, I think 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:01.200 that that's a cop I. 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:02.080 Do you want to know why? 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:03.640 I think it's old the cop out because if we 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.880 roll the tay back when he did the whole gotcha, 0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.400 it seemed like you knew exactly what the fuck he 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.040 was doing and saying, then when you this with the 0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:12.520 gotcha moment, when you lost all that money, it was like, 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.080 oh God, I told you they controlled everything. 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:17.120 Look they took all my money. It was like he knew. 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.480 He was very aware and cognizant of what he was 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.120 doing and saying I'm doing this on purpose to show y'all, Yes, 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.040 they run everything. Watch when I start saying this, watch 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.040 they take everything from me, gotcha. 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.839 And right to Maul's point, I did want to say, 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:34.120 that's very calculated, that's too low. Clears the motherfucker itough. 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:37.800 This is this another version of because I think again, 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.520 not trying to be the yays of genius, him not 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.360 saying that he wanted to see what it was like 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.239 to be fucking canceled. He knew what he was doing 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:48.319 and everything that he was saying with everybody, Cameron said, 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:50.560 on his podcast. I was just with Kanye, He's not 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.000 crazy what he's putting on. 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:54.319 I don't think. 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.960 Kanye is crazy at all. I think Kanye got to 0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:03.000 a level where he thought and forgot his place. You're 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.200 still a black man. You don't control this. Yeah, you're 0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:10.839 very talented, talented, creative. You can create anything and sell it. Yes, 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:15.040 but don't get it twisted. You're still a black man 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:18.359 in America. Bro, there's still a pecking overer here. So 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.279 you have to still walk a certain way, talk a 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.160 certain way. You can't just be out here doing and 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.360 saying whatever you want because you sold a bunch of 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:25.320 sneakers for Adidas. 0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.600 I agree with that. You can't do that. 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.160 Michael Droon sold a ship ton of sneakers from Miike. 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:34.280 Mike Ain never said what Kanye's. 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.320 Republicans naka. 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:37.880 Quickly Republicans. 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:41.640 I think Kanye was actually pretty lucid, even with a 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.680 bipolar brain, lucid in what he was doing with everything 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.080 he said after drink Champs, with the anti Semitic stuff. 0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:49.919 Is this still part of that experiment to see what 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.719 it is like to get out of being canceled. Is 0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.800 this is he literally doing because he brings up the 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:55.919 Truman Show all the time. 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.440 See all he does is that's that's what happens when 0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:01.359 you every polar brain, though. 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:03.960 And that's what I was about to bring up. I'm 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:06.879 you guys are describing. 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:08.480 Hey, he wants to feel like what it's like to 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:10.320 be canceled and then clime out of the cancelation. 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.600 That's bipolar manager shit. 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:15.480 He brings up the Truman Show his whole career, and 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.040 you can even he talks about with a bipolar brain, 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:19.600 how it can feel like that without bringing up the 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.560 Truman Show? Is this his version of getting out of that, Like, 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:24.759 let me say all the right things. And in a 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:27.200 time when we've cared about mental health more than any time, 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.960 it's been an excuse for everybody anytime anyone crashes out, 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.680 can't do nothing, Oh it's because of mental health. So 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:35.720 now he can take this time to prove his fucking 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:39.279 point and experiment in his bipolar brain that I'll just 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.560 say all the right things. He even said with some 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.279 of the bully clips before the justin leaboy shit, I'll 0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:46.399 just go back to doing the so shit, he'll be back. 0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:48.719 I'll just say all the right things. 0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:52.640 I'm just being that's a very, very thought out process. 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.239 You have to be on a certain clear headed, consciousness 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:59.080 thinking level to be able to think that far and 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.920 come up with a plan and then execute that plan. Now, 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:07.640 I'm not saying Kanye doesn't have some mental health issues 0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:09.520 or some mental health things he needs to address. I'm 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.600 not saying that I would never write that off. I'm 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:15.600 just saying, with all of this, the Wall Street ad 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:18.760 and all of this, and you know, you can't expect 0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:20.640 me to be like, oh, okay, well then not. I 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.239 totally understand. That's like, no, I get it. I'm not 0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:27.440 saying he don't have mental health issues. But what's going 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:29.840 to happen after all of this ad and the bully 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:31.480 come out and then we're back to another rent. 0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:33.520 That's if it happens. You talking about in the future. 0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:35.960 We don't know if that's going to happen. You can 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:37.799 only speak on what's going on right now, what you've 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:38.319 already seen. 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:40.600 Let's play the odds here, what are the odds that 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:41.640 he is going to have another run? 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.239 So I think there is there. There's definitely a odd 0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:46.719 that he will have another rant. But at the same time, 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:48.040 he's about to have a whole interview. 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:48.880 If he has. 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:53.160 Another rant, it doesn't take away from what he said. 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.960 If I'm I said that, if I'm bipolar and mannicut, 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:57.640 I'm in the process of ruining my life, and then 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.000 I get I med and look back and be like, oh, fuck, y'all, 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.239 I ruined my life. Let me come out and apologize 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.759 for it. It doesn't mean that I'll never be manned again. 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:07.120 It doesn't mean that I'll never make another sage decision. 0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.200 I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, what is all 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:11.160 of this for? Though? 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.960 But what is the ad and all? That's so back 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.440 to what I'm saying. It just feels performative. It feels 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.080 too as part of the whole, you know, the whole thing. 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:21.960 Well, that's a You're probably right, but I'm going to 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:23.560 give them the benefit of the doubt because anybody else 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:24.759 get the fucking benefit of it doubt. 0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.279 So I mean that's what I started with. We've seen 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.400 this with so many white actors and people that have 0:54:29.440 --> 0:54:32.720 lost their fucking minds. They never got any second chances 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.400 after they pulled moves like this where they got the 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.560 whole PR team to tell them exactly what to say, 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.759 put them in front of the right person. And now 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:41.560 we're like, yeah, you can start back in movies. You're 0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:43.800 fine now you listen, you were in Hollywood. 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:44.320 It was crazy. 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.799 Black people have not really gotten that luxury when they've 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:52.160 had mental breakdowns. That's kind of been specifically for the 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:55.799 rich white So yeah, I mean, if they can do it, 0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:58.000 I can't, Hey, post something in the Wall Street Journal 0:54:58.120 --> 0:54:59.839 and do the same pr move that everyone else does. 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:02.120 I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:04.040 I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm just 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.080 saying me as a person just looking at this, this 0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:10.000 just feels too as part of the play. 0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.839 Which again I think a couple of things can be true. 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:17.080 But separating from Kanye, do you think this is wrong 0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.080 for artists to do in general and not take advantage 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:20.680 of mental health? And again, I think that's a gray 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.799 area with what Kanye is doing right now, down to 0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:28.080 the Frank Ocean announcing he's gay on Tumbler right before 0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:30.840 Channel Orange. A lot of artists the only time they 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.319 want to speak is when they're putting out their music. 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.360 They speak to their music like they have to promote it. 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:37.400 There has to be a rollout. 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:40.799 I kind of hate when artists get that flat, like, oh, 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.040 you're doing this for the rollout. Everything's a rollout, this 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.400 for the rollout. A lot of artists up until the 0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:48.600 TikTok era did kind of mind they fucking business. I 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:50.600 know there was the DVD era, the blog era, this 0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:55.000 and that Instagram whatever, But for the most part, artists 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.840 say the biggest things when they're trying to sell something. 0:55:57.640 --> 0:55:58.399 Why wouldn't you? 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:03.760 Yeah, what's wrong with it? And a lot of times 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.439 a lot of artists, with the things they have to say, 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.680 ends up feeling okay to say after you record an 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.080 album that has to do with the themes in the 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.280 subject matter of what you're getting at, even down. 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:16.560 To like. 0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.640 The song that is one of the funniest things you 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.200 said that when Forrest Gump came on from Channel Orange, 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:24.919 was in the shower and you almost wrap yourself around 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:28.720 the curtain de lead turning that shit off. But who's 0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.479 to say that Frank didn't feel better about coming out 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:37.240 after writing that song, Like sometimes that can empower somebody 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:40.399 to say certain things about what is happening. So yeah, 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.680 do I think there's a lot of artists that are 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:47.480 calling paparazzi or fabricating making up these drama things like, oh, 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:49.200 we have to just get the internet talking when I 0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:52.799 sell some of course I'm not stupid, but I do 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.440 give a little bit more flat two artists like Frank 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.000 Kanye to a degree because Kanye kind of is the 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:02.239 reason we're all here, or with these dramatic rollouts, but 0:57:03.480 --> 0:57:06.440 sometimes that's the only time they want to speak. So 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:08.920 and if I have to sell something, and I'm not 0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:10.760 a marketer, I'm an artist. I sit in the studio 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.120 and make music. I don't know how to market. The 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.560 only thing I know how to do is be myself 0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:16.120 and talk about what's going on in my life. And 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.280 I don't want to do that with y'all until it's 0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:20.320 time for me to come out of my hole, which 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.200 is in the studio. That's the time I'm going to 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.320 get on every one of these platforms. 0:57:25.920 --> 0:57:30.480 But the only problem I have with that is the algorithm. 0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.240 Everybody's playing the algorithm game. 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:32.880 Have no choice. 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:34.320 How do you get into the algorith How do you 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:36.000 get to the top of the algorithm. And we know 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:39.240 that the algorithm rewards negativity, that's what makes it to 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:42.760 the top of the algorithm. You disrespect somebody, somebody has 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.960 a fight somebody, you know, whatever. That's what makes it 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.760 to the top of the algorithm. Disrespect, negative energy. 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:49.040 Right. 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:53.000 My only thing with Kanye is I feel like he 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.800 knew that. So a lot of the things he said 0:57:56.200 --> 0:58:00.800 were disrespect absolutely, That's how he controlled the whole. You know, 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.520 He's at the top of everyone's algorithm. You couldn't open 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.280 your phone, you couldn't go on social media and not 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:06.360 see Kanye at the top. 0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:11.240 Right. So, now, not in. 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.120 His personal business, but I think it's safe to say 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.440 that he may have taken the hit financially for some 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.560 of the things that he did and said over the lot, right, 0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:21.400 just a small smoke, just a little bit, just a 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.520 little bit, right, cool. 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:27.280 And personally and personally because you also have to understand 0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:29.720 he well no longer is married, but is tied in 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:32.120 he is for the rest of his well, I was 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:34.160 going to get to his ex woo. Yes he's married 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:38.040 to Bianca. Yes, since sorry, yeah married, My apologies. He 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:42.600 was married to a conglomerate, like, let's remember that as well, 0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.919 which affects everything that has to do with his personal life. 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:49.040 His personal life became a conglomerate by his choice. I'm 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.480 not giving him sympathy. Trust me, that was his fucking 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.720 choice as a grown ass man. But that, yeah, that 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:58.760 affects the Kardashian billionaire conglomerate. Not saying it's Adidas, but 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.560 it ain't that fucking far away from it. Now that 0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.480 affects you seeing your kids and then your own personal 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.200 money is fucked. 0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:08.080 Up based off the things you said. Yeah, because again 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.400 you get caught up in this negative thing. When I 0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:12.480 say some negative is right to the top of the algorithm, 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.960 right cool? Now you give us this in the Wall 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.640 Street at yo. You know mental health frontal load damage. 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.600 I didn't know undiagnosed. 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:20.040 Cool? 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.120 And if that's real, we understand that, like damn, that's 0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:25.440 you know, it's fucked up that that went undiagnosed all 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.360 of these years. Hopefully he's addressing that and getting help 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:31.640 for that. My thing is, why are we attaching that 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:33.680 to him? Why do you have to attach that to 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:37.360 sell something? Though, like Kanye's talent speaks for itself at 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.440 this point, Kanye don't have to do none of this 0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:42.520 to sell something. Kanye could just announced an album at 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.360 midnight and the numbers are gonna do what the numbers 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:44.800 are gonna do. 0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:48.120 I agree, So that's when I have a problem with this. 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.360 Like all of this role you don't need to use 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.360 this as an angle for your rollout to sell something. 0:59:52.400 --> 0:59:53.520 But this is the thing. 0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.400 You can't confirm that that's your opinion of what he's doing, 0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:58.920 but bouncing off the back of that's what it is, 0:59:59.280 --> 0:59:59.959 Bully is coming. 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:01.160 Okay, understood that. 1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:03.720 But what I'm saying is he could have wanted to 1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:07.320 say this for five months, right, So then say it no, 1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:11.200 Because this is the thing, y'all, especially when everybody hates 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:12.640 you or you feel like everybody hates you. 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:14.520 Right, let's reality versus your perception. 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.560 If you feel like everybody hates you, and on top 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:18.800 of that, you feel like you don't really owe people shit, 1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:20.520 and people are gonna talk shit about you anyway. People 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:22.240 are gonna sit on their podcast and not believe what 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.720 the fuck you're saying. Anyway. Okay, if that's the case, 1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:26.920 I'm going to use that to my advantage. If I 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:28.760 was an artist, I would do that too. I'm not 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:33.320 over here trying to convince y'all that I'm being that 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:35.760 I'm being real, or that I'm being authentic, because y'all 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:37.560 are gonna believe me or y'all aren't gonna believe me. 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:39.320 But if this, if I'm gonna come out and be 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:42.000 vulnerable with you when I've given you so much of myself, Yeah, 1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:43.400 I'm gonna attach it to my album. 1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:44.720 Yeah, I don't have to. 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:46.920 I don't have to improve to y'all that I'm being authored. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:50.520 I don't try to sell me something. Improve and be authentic. 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:52.400 So you're saying you will believe it, you will believe 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:53.440 this if Bully was coming in. 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.040 I'm saying that you would believe it or wouldn't believe it, 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.520 no matter if the album was coming out or not. 1:00:57.760 --> 1:00:59.800 You believe it if Bully was coming a year from now. 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.160 So then what's the point, Like, that's what if you're 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:05.560 not gonna believe it, You're not believe is. 1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:07.400 Because I think a lot of people feel like I feel, 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.520 which is like they don't matter that you have an 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.480 album coming next week, but we don't care. You could 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:13.440 have told us this, like I said, I didn't need 1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.440 this whole pr you know, press release thing. 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:17.120 I didn't need that. 1:01:17.440 --> 1:01:19.640 I would rather open my phone and see Kanye speaking 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:24.160 directly into a camera and being vulnerable, not no edit, 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:25.680 but none of that, and be like Yo, listen, man, 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.120 I said some things to me that would feel more 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:29.800 genuine in some words. And I'm reading in the world. 1:01:29.800 --> 1:01:31.840 I don't even read the Wall Street Journal, and I 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:34.400 know you'll start there. I don't even I don't even 1:01:34.440 --> 1:01:35.080 read that picture. 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:37.760 There's a group of people that read it. There's a 1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:41.040 group of people that, of course see his ship. His 1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:44.440 frontal low was opening up. Next, I just start opening opening. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.960 This is what I'm saying, this is we know what 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:50.520 this is. Let's just stop acting like we don't. Kanye 1:01:50.600 --> 1:01:54.600 don't have to do no promo Kanye, but Kanye on 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:58.720 his on his Instagram, they could just say Bully, that's it, 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:01.640 not and the numbers that's gonna do. 1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:03.200 He's gonna have the number one album. 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.240 Nope, which you mean no, I don't know about him 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:05.720 having enough. 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.800 Giveless Bad Buddy run another commercial. 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:12.120 That would be the I think his album's coming out 1:02:12.320 --> 1:02:14.840 February eighth. I think it's coming around the same fucking like. 1:02:15.400 --> 1:02:17.440 The only reason Kanye ain't got the number one album is. 1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:20.480 If everything after super Bowl is gonna be number one 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:22.840 for Bad Bunny. But all right, with that said, Kanye 1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:26.080 has surpassed that. Of course, anything with Kanye, that happens 1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:28.200 with us in this room. He doesn't need to do 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:30.200 a rollout. We are going to see it. I even 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.200 have Vultures too in my fucking laptop, and I don't 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.120 even think it got released, and I'm saying they sent 1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:35.720 it to me. It was just leaked. With I pay 1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:39.240 attention what I'm saying now. Kanye is so super past 1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:41.400 that entire thing. That's why he's one of the highest 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:44.720 streamed people on Spotify history. Even if he's twenty five. 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:49.400 That's still crazy. With that said, he with all his 1:02:49.480 --> 1:02:53.040 comments about the Jewish community and everything, does need to 1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:55.600 address that to sell the album because I think Bully 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.440 would go to deaf Ears. By deaf ears, I mean 1:02:57.600 --> 1:02:59.720 just the type of people in this room that pay 1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.400 its chance to hip hop. I'll tell you this, My 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:04.200 mom and her best friend were in my car. Wait, 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:06.600 let me finish. This is Kanye you told them about 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:06.800 I know. 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:07.960 I'm telling you people. 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:10.320 Don't Kanye puts out an album tomorrow his fans. 1:03:11.400 --> 1:03:13.400 Can we look up what Vultures did. Vultures Won that 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:17.520 came out on DSPs. Let's look at the numbers. You 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:19.640 think that one number one one nowhere near number one. 1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:22.320 How did he release I don't even remember the last 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:23.880 Kanye West album that went number one. 1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:26.000 Yeah, number one ain't as easy to come by as 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:28.000 like we think, well Kanye, no. 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:29.960 For Kanye either, Well, Kanye got kind of the way 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:31.440 he was releasing Ship and putting it out. 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:32.720 You didn't know if it was out, if it was not. 1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:34.920 It did go to number one. 1:03:35.480 --> 1:03:38.640 It no hip hip hop guys. I'm talking about number one, 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:39.440 where Kanye used to. 1:03:39.440 --> 1:03:42.640 Be Billboard two hundred Albums chart number one on the 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:43.560 Billboard two hundred. 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:44.480 Ain't no fucking way. 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:46.280 At that time, when Taylor Swift was coming out that 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:47.440 Kanye West was number. 1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:51.000 One, forget this Okay, We're back, Rory was wrong. 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:56.080 Completely fucking wrong. Vultures spent number one on Billboard for 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:59.160 two weeks. Carnival I was an incredible record, I was. 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:01.680 I was talking more about that album. Yeah, I spent 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.919 two weeks there. What was the first week sales Josh 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:11.960 one forty eight thousand, which is incredible, Okay, but I 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:15.120 still think that's lower numbers one forty eight for Kanye album. 1:04:15.560 --> 1:04:18.080 And my point was that I was getting to was 1:04:19.120 --> 1:04:21.880 the Pete Davidson in Game song is the one that 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:24.560 went the craziest for Kanye when it came to the 1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:28.400 news outside of the numbers, when he said, uh, Pete 1:04:28.440 --> 1:04:31.080 Davison dies at AIDS and put the video out that 1:04:31.360 --> 1:04:33.200 my mom and her friend listened to that records like, 1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:35.080 did you hear about the new Kanye, the one with 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:37.560 game Mom? That's the one you're talking about, because they 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:39.400 were talking about Pete Davidson and all the gossip shit. 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:42.200 So I was saying, to your point of Yeay, being 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:46.240 in that negative algorithm shit, he has to do stuff 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:49.560 like this to get to that next level. 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:52.640 Kanye doesn't have to do anything, and that's the point, 1:04:52.720 --> 1:04:53.920 and I think that's the point that people have to 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:54.480 understand by. 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:56.800 Okay, but do you also remember Vultures, which I was 1:04:56.840 --> 1:05:00.440 completely wrong about. Do you remember the Vultures rollout? Uh? 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:01.600 He had every. 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:05.280 Fucking right wing streamer. They were in that hotel room 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:08.560 streaming for fucking seven days. They were kicking women out 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:12.400 the fucking room. They were doing the Andrew tape rollout everything. 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:14.760 It was the most negative shit. So I'm saying he 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:16.920 still has to do stuff Vultures did. 1:05:17.360 --> 1:05:17.880 I was wrong. 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.160 Vultures went number one. But now to that point, Yeah, 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:26.040 he had a insanely negative rollout and a very public one. 1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:28.240 So you're saying he doesn't need to do that, Yes 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:30.640 he does. He needed to do that to make Vultures 1:05:30.680 --> 1:05:31.280 be number one. 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:33.960 No, because every other album went number one before that 1:05:34.000 --> 1:05:34.400 and he didn't. 1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:36.880 You don't remember all his antics through every album. 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.000 Ever, I'm saying he didn't have to do what he 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:41.400 did as far as a rollout on the Vultures album. 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:43.440 And I'm saying you don't have to promo your stuff. 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:46.120 I'm saying I think Kanye West is at a point 1:05:46.160 --> 1:05:49.120 in his career now with these things, these all the 1:05:49.160 --> 1:05:51.000 tricks and things that every other artist has to do. 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.960 He does not have to do that. He invented those tricks, though, 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:56.520 but I'm saying he doesn't. He no longer has to 1:05:56.600 --> 1:06:02.280 do that. He can just again Instagram yay Bully, So 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:06.240 all white letters, black background, Bully. That will be enough 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:07.560 people know the album is coming. 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:08.280 That's it. 1:06:08.400 --> 1:06:11.800 This is Kanye West, one of the most influential artists 1:06:11.840 --> 1:06:15.040 of his time. He doesn't influential. He doesn't have to 1:06:15.080 --> 1:06:17.360 do these things that everybody else is. 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:19.240 He doesn't have to do that. I hear what you're saying. 1:06:19.320 --> 1:06:19.480 All. 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:24.760 But you have no baseline for the past. Let's say 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:28.400 past ten years, right, you have no wait ten years, 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.280 how long would it be damn time flying? Okay, let's 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:33.320 say past five years, five to ten whatever. You have 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:36.120 no baseline of him not doing wild shit to sell 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:38.320 album to say he doesn't need to be wild shit 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:39.240 to sell Twenty. 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:41.080 Years of Kanye's career has been that. 1:06:41.240 --> 1:06:45.280 Yeah, He's always done wild So you can't say Kanye's. 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:47.160 Always done wild shit to sell the album. This is 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:47.880 this is this is. 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:50.880 This is recast, this is really he hasn't always done 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:51.880 wild ship to sell the album. 1:06:51.880 --> 1:06:53.520 But past ten years in the in the age of 1:06:53.560 --> 1:06:55.600 the you need the internet to sell albums. 1:06:55.440 --> 1:07:00.960 Or or because the algorithm awards negativity. Okay, that is 1:07:00.960 --> 1:07:03.600 what I'm saying. He doesn't do negativity. Does he still 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:04.640 sell the same that was rory? 1:07:04.880 --> 1:07:06.440 I think yes, So this is Kanye. 1:07:06.480 --> 1:07:09.760 See before the before the algorithm, he was selling shipload 1:07:09.800 --> 1:07:14.080 of records, influencing all artists. After the algorithm, yes he doesn't. 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:17.160 He does not. He became a victim of that, he 1:07:17.240 --> 1:07:19.160 fell into that. I think he didn't need to do that, 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:22.280 and I think now he's realizing he didn't have to 1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:23.680 go that far. He didn't have to do all of 1:07:23.720 --> 1:07:25.640 that negative shit he was doing and saying those things 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:26.120 he was doing. 1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:28.360 Actually think this is perfect more because you're making an 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:30.720 amazing point. We're talking about all the negative shit he 1:07:30.760 --> 1:07:34.120 did to get number one with Vultures. Now he's doing positive. 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:36.280 Let's take out if we think somebody else wrote it. 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:39.520 This and that bully he said with justin Leaboys miseducation, 1:07:39.600 --> 1:07:42.280 it's only about positivity. Every bar is supposed to uplift 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:44.680 everybody in the world. He did a full apology of 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:46.760 his whole entire career in the Wall Street Journal. 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:50.000 Let's see what this could be. 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:52.280 What's his rollout for the gospel album? Because that was 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:53.440 positive rollout? 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:54.200 I love that. 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:55.440 What's his rollout for that? Oh? 1:07:55.640 --> 1:07:58.080 I mean even when he did with Sunday Service, Sunday 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:00.040 Service to travel the country Withould Requie, I thought it 1:08:00.080 --> 1:08:01.200 was aweso, it's beautiful. 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:03.520 I went to Yeah, thought it was great fucking fire. 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:04.200 Yeah. 1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:07.760 So no, okay, but things definitely turn in the Internet 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:10.959 after that time. The Internet was still negative at that time, 1:08:11.000 --> 1:08:13.840 but but it turned to everything negative type of world 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:15.840 that we're it currently in, right, now everything has to 1:08:15.880 --> 1:08:18.960 be negative. I'm curious to see to your point, with 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:23.320 him going with a positive rollout, what happens. I don't 1:08:23.360 --> 1:08:25.000 have any predictions. I have no idea. 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:26.360 For me, it's. 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:27.760 Always this and it will always be this with any 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:30.479 of these artists. I don't care about your rollout. I 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:31.639 don't care about your rollout. 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:34.439 Want you care if the music is good? What does 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:37.120 the music sound like? That's my thing. 1:08:37.160 --> 1:08:40.000 I don't care about this Wall Street ad. I care 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:42.320 about his mental health. Hopefully he's addressing that and he's 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:44.679 getting help for that. You know that part. 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:47.360 Yes, absolutely I care about But I didn't need the 1:08:47.400 --> 1:08:48.080 Wall Street Ad. 1:08:49.560 --> 1:08:53.400 Just again, I think it's actually a great experiment to 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:56.320 see if positivity even fucking works in a rollout. Yeah, 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.759 but it being humble, if being hey, I need forgiveness 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:01.679 because as I fucked up, I said a bunch. 1:09:01.520 --> 1:09:02.720 Of But how would you know if it works with 1:09:02.800 --> 1:09:05.320 Kanye's gonna go number one? 1:09:05.360 --> 1:09:06.000 No matter what. 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.160 You've proven me wrong with the Vultures, thing is actually 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:10.080 going to we'll have an answer. 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.280 The album goes as long as he stays away from 1:09:12.320 --> 1:09:14.479 Bad Bunny, as long as he. 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:16.639 Stays away number one, because that can change. Let's look 1:09:16.640 --> 1:09:19.120 at the stream sales, which I hate, who cares about that? 1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:21.519 But let's let's look at the sales, all right? What 1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:23.240 are we we used to do sales guesses? What are 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:23.880 you guys guessing? 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:25.480 Units? 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:28.800 Album equivalent units? 1:09:28.560 --> 1:09:30.400 That's it. It is soul because I don't even know 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:33.160 what two hundred. I don't even know what that means. 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:34.120 How many? 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:38.680 How many pre orders did Rocky have a million? How 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:40.680 many did he sell for? How many was his first 1:09:40.720 --> 1:09:42.559 week numbers? Because he has a number two. He didn't 1:09:42.560 --> 1:09:43.280 debut at number one? 1:09:43.360 --> 1:09:45.479 Right now, he had a number number one? 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:48.760 Yeah, over over bad bunny. Your congrats states. 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:51.400 That Rocky is he has a number one album one 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:52.120 hundred and twenty two. 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:55.880 I think he ate was does two hundred because I 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.040 do think with this Wall Street journalship. 1:09:57.560 --> 1:09:59.800 Plus Rocky debut a number one? Yeah? 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:02.599 Right now, congrats States have Rocky Gucci? 1:10:03.120 --> 1:10:03.280 Yes? 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:03.639 Great? 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:03.960 Yeah? 1:10:04.200 --> 1:10:09.920 I think if Vultures did one and Yeah is doing 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.839 his apology tour, I'm two hundred. 1:10:13.920 --> 1:10:17.360 I'm going one twenty. I'll go one twenty under Vultures 1:10:17.680 --> 1:10:20.920 unless unless he sells something and packs it out. Unless 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:23.360 he sells something, can you pull. 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:26.559 Up the rabbit, the rabbi that he was speaking with 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:29.080 a couple of months ago that shook his hand and. 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:35.559 That was crazy. That was fucking crazy. 1:10:35.840 --> 1:10:36.040 Yeah. 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:38.439 No, no, I've had a version of that. 1:10:38.600 --> 1:10:40.120 Rabbi. A lot of people have. 1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:40.519 Never heard that. 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:46.800 Is that rabbi? Uh did you Rabbi Yoshi Yosef? Yes, 1:10:47.320 --> 1:10:49.200 remember that Kanye made his amends. 1:10:49.400 --> 1:10:49.800 There we go. 1:10:49.880 --> 1:10:51.760 So then we got that, right baby, the follow me 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:55.560 that was November, following you everywhere? That was November? Where January? 1:10:56.479 --> 1:10:59.040 Now we get the Wall Street add apology tour. Do 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:05.040 you not see how how his team and staff are planning. 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:07.599 I say that I'm not disagreeing with you. So that's 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:08.120 where it's for me. 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:13.640 I say, performative, planned, need this, then we're going to 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:14.960 do that, and we're going to do this, and then 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:15.759 the album comes. 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:18.040 So it's every artist it's been performative. 1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:19.840 Yeah, But I'm just saying for what he's done over 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:23.120 the years and said, for him to now make this turn, 1:11:24.000 --> 1:11:26.719 you can't expect somebody like me to be like, oh yeah, 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:28.680 I feel him. You know, I don't expect you to. 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:30.240 But I also don't think that Kanye is doing this 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:30.479 for you. 1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:32.599 I'm one of his I'm one of his consumers. 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:33.400 Yeah, but you're. 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:35.639 Gonna cut you bought in his In his height of 1:11:35.720 --> 1:11:37.639 the Worst Ship, he was saying, you bought easy boots. 1:11:37.640 --> 1:11:39.280 You're not the person he's apologized and you know what 1:11:39.320 --> 1:11:41.160 I think, but he doesn't. 1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:44.439 But again, my thing is if you want to say, 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.320 apologize to people you hurt with your words, I'm always 1:11:47.360 --> 1:11:48.520 for that apologize. 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:51.240 Right. My thing is why attach it? 1:11:51.280 --> 1:11:54.200 Like you said, why are we getting an album coming 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:55.479 off the wall Street thing? 1:11:55.560 --> 1:12:00.200 It's just stop selling ship for a second. Sit down, yeah, 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:03.840 but sit down, get your mental health together, get your 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:07.000 life together. You mean your kids just growing up door. 1:12:07.439 --> 1:12:09.200 Stop selling shit for a second. 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:11.559 But he hasn't sold us anything in a couple of years. 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:14.240 Well you talking about he's been well, has been waiting 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:15.160 for his boots for a while. 1:12:17.200 --> 1:12:20.720 He sold a Swasi commerci last last February, I mean us, 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.160 But we're going into February the next year and I 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:23.759 still got. 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:25.240 Kanye kinda hasn't stoped selling stuff. 1:12:25.280 --> 1:12:26.960 But all right, well and we can close this because 1:12:26.960 --> 1:12:29.680 I know this dragged a bit, but you would like, 1:12:29.760 --> 1:12:32.840 do you consider artists a brand at this point? I'm 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:35.479 not a businessman. I'm a businessman like certain certain artists. 1:12:35.479 --> 1:12:39.840 Everybody niggas just saying no, no, no brand using artists in 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:43.679 the same vein ye one million. So you don't think 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:46.559 Pepsi beats to the drum of how we're going to 1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:49.519 move based off how we're selling something. Why is Kanye 1:12:49.520 --> 1:12:52.559 who is a brand at one point was just as 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:55.880 valuable as a major corporation that has been around for 1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:59.360 one hundred years, because that's how talented Kanye West was 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:02.200 with his vision. Why can he not move at the 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:05.160 same pace that every more major corporation does. 1:13:05.000 --> 1:13:07.080 Because he's saying that he has frontal lobe damage and 1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:08.759 mental health issues that he needs to address. 1:13:09.560 --> 1:13:15.240 Pepsi an ad with Kendall Jenner stotting racism by opening that, 1:13:16.280 --> 1:13:18.840 and I know it's the craziest commercial of all time. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:22.120 They had an Asian playing the violin at a riot. 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:27.760 Pepsi put out an ad, Yo, we messed up, We're 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.599 gonna do better. At least Kanye gave me some more 1:13:30.640 --> 1:13:32.519 words that made me feel like I'm actually talking to 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:35.720 a human being. And he's a brand that at one 1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:38.439 point probably not as valuable as Pepsi, but close in 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:42.439 the billions. Why can't he move the same way. His 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:44.439 life is a brand. He's always going to sell. He's 1:13:44.479 --> 1:13:48.400 selling his personality. He was married to the conglomerate of 1:13:48.479 --> 1:13:51.519 selling your personality their brands. The Kardashians are a brand. 1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:55.400 You don't get Skims without Kim selling herself her lifestyle. 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:58.920 These people, anytime they walk outside, they're selling themselves. I 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:00.760 don't mean that in a negative way, and I don't. 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:03.160 I don't, I don't. 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:04.840 Everything you're saying is correct. What I'm saying is if 1:14:05.040 --> 1:14:07.960 you're having mental health issues, if you're front, I think 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:10.360 all of you need. You need to sit the fuck down, 1:14:11.560 --> 1:14:14.120 go live on the off off of fucking farm somewhere 1:14:14.120 --> 1:14:17.000 for a couple of years, get your mental health together, relax, 1:14:17.200 --> 1:14:19.759 stop trying to sell push it in the consumer space 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:22.120 all the time, Like just fucking chill and relax. 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:24.160 You made enough money. Life is great. 1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:27.120 Get your fucking get your get your physical mental health 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:29.560 in order before you start to jump back into the 1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:30.920 space and want to sell shit again. 1:14:30.960 --> 1:14:33.360 That's like, that's all I'm like telling Pepsi to stop 1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:36.680 selling the Pepsi that's in our fridges every day. No, 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:39.439 that's not That's how you become a billionaire, that's how 1:14:39.439 --> 1:14:43.600 you go. That's the difference between Kanye also whole, but 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:45.920 he has done it outside of his lifestyle brand. That's 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:49.559 the difference. They sell things every goddamn day and Kanye 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.080 to Rihanna did not become a billionaire until she started 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:55.360 selling fenty and her lifestyle brand that she could match 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:57.479 with what she was doing with the music videos. 1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:59.840 Yeah, but her being Rihanna is not. Yeah, but what 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:02.120 do you talk What point are you making, Rihanna. I'm 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:04.280 not saying negative shit about a group of people in 1:15:04.280 --> 1:15:06.840 the world. Rihanna's not going on no, no, no. 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:09.320 We're talking about a separate, separate point the point. 1:15:11.240 --> 1:15:11.960 Stop trying to sell. 1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:15.280 I'm just telling you that he has the mind state 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:18.719 of a corporation because he is one. Now he walks 1:15:18.760 --> 1:15:21.519 outside and is being sold, so his mind is always there. 1:15:22.560 --> 1:15:26.519 That doesn't mean go fucking buy a Nazi chain. I'm 1:15:26.520 --> 1:15:28.800 not saying I'm not co signing that. I'm just saying 1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:32.160 where those types of brains are at. He's he's a corporation, 1:15:32.920 --> 1:15:35.240 not to the way some other rapper is that also 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:38.960 sells alcohol. You're talking about somebody that has entered billionaires. 1:15:39.200 --> 1:15:41.960 When Rihanna walks out every time when she's with Rocky, 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:44.120 when she's with her kids. Of course she's living her 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:45.920 life the way she wants to live it. You don't 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:48.000 think she's throwing on the fency coat. She knows her 1:15:48.000 --> 1:15:50.639 whole life is being sold every time she walks out 1:15:50.640 --> 1:15:51.439 that fucking building. 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:55.040 Okay, so dyah, that puts them on that MA wants. 1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:58.840 So here's the thing, MA, all authenticity, the majority. I 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:02.040 won't say all the majority honesty, the majority of the 1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:06.320 authenticity that we are sold because we are being sold authenticity, 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:08.680 because authenticity is what mixed. That's why we have so 1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:11.519 many influencers, right, and influencers that have become the new 1:16:11.560 --> 1:16:14.680 celebrities because they're just normal people that showed us our 1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:16.840 lives and now we relate it to them and now 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:18.519 we give them. We bought shit from them, and they 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:22.320 influence our lives. So authenticity a lot of times is forced, 1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:26.080 it's fake, it's acted, and some people are better at 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:26.799 it than others. 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:28.160 Kanye didn't take that route. 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.439 He didn't get in front of the camera like Diddy 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.400 did after the rape accusations come out and said hey, 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:35.639 I'm working on it with God me and my pastor 1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:38.840 and did the fake authenticity. He did it the way 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:40.439 that artists used to do it when the label was 1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:43.320 running everything. I'm going to put out a fucking press release. 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:45.000 Now I have a whole bunch of money, so my 1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:46.920 press release, I can force it to be seen by 1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:48.240 the people I want it to be seen by. 1:16:48.520 --> 1:16:50.679 And I can understand why that might rub you wrong. 1:16:51.040 --> 1:16:54.120 But please understand that even when people are doing the fakes, 1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:55.640 sit in front of the camera with the black T 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:57.639 shirt while they're in their kitchen and their kids are 1:16:57.680 --> 1:16:59.400 in the back playing and their wife is bringing them 1:16:59.439 --> 1:17:03.040 a play of food. That's staged too, but it's staged 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:03.919 to look authentic. 1:17:04.120 --> 1:17:04.880 Kanye just didn't. 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:06.879 Well, you look, Kyrie Tailer, this is all the stage. 1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:09.040 Everything is a state's and that's the way I live. 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:13.920 I agree with Kyrie and Kanyek learned that pretty early, 1:17:13.960 --> 1:17:15.880 and that's why I think Kanye believes a lot of 1:17:15.880 --> 1:17:16.679 shit that he's saying. 1:17:17.200 --> 1:17:18.120 So I'm with you there. 1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:21.559 But to the demericis point, Kanye has in the years 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:24.240 of gangster rap, came out with a fucking polo and 1:17:24.240 --> 1:17:27.439 said I'm a nerd dog like he he sold a 1:17:27.479 --> 1:17:31.719 group of people, a large group, authenticity of I'm around 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:34.400 a bunch of people that usually if you're in this position, 1:17:34.479 --> 1:17:36.400 you're gonna pretend like, no, I'm from Chicago, I'm a 1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:39.320 I'm g d. Now I'm a nerd. I'm an art 1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.400 student in a time when it wasn't cool to be 1:17:41.400 --> 1:17:44.880 an art student. So everyone took his introduction to the world. Also, 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:47.880 that's what he really he was. That was authentic on Kanye, That's. 1:17:47.720 --> 1:17:50.320 What I'm saying that that was in every that. 1:17:50.320 --> 1:17:51.800 Was his most authentic. That was him. 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:55.400 Yeah, he worked at the Gap. He was a gap kid. 1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:58.040 Well gap, he was a preppy kid. That's and there's 1:17:58.080 --> 1:17:59.840 nothing wrong with that, Like, of course the space for. 1:17:59.840 --> 1:18:00.280 That in him. 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:01.880 I'm just saying, at a time when it wasn't even 1:18:01.920 --> 1:18:03.720 cool to say that type of shit, you got to 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:05.520 that point authenticity. 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:07.840 And that's what got away from is in hip hop 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:09.599 you are rewarded for being authentic. 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:10.800 That's what it used. 1:18:10.800 --> 1:18:11.240 At a time. 1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:13.280 You couldn't even sound like other rappers at one point, 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:16.479 even if vocally and tone wise, we just had natural 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:18.519 just saying people like yo, that ain't gonna work. You 1:18:18.560 --> 1:18:21.439 sound too much like this person, or you look too 1:18:21.520 --> 1:18:24.240 much like that person, like you had to be authentic. 1:18:24.400 --> 1:18:25.400 Now it's just. 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:28.160 Cookie cutter shit. Put him on the conveyor belt, shut 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.240 him down the line. And I'm saying an artist is 1:18:31.320 --> 1:18:34.720 talented as Kanye should not fall into that because he 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:35.280 doesn't have to. 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:38.120 Well, when he was yelling listen to the kids, Bro, 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:41.640 I actually liked that. But now I'm I'm starting to 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:45.479 see where that disappeared, because I think you're handicapped in 1:18:45.520 --> 1:18:48.280 a good way because you grew up around three people 1:18:48.520 --> 1:18:52.520 that actually made the things they were living so authentic 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:54.639 that that was the lifestyle that was sold to the world, 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.400 and that's why they fell in love with that that company. 1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:00.200 Kanye ended up being a kid in that company as 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.320 far as his authenticity as well. And then Kanye started 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:06.080 listening to his own kids. He started listening to Playboy 1:19:06.120 --> 1:19:11.040 CARDI of what you should do, whereas no, all these 1:19:11.120 --> 1:19:13.360 kids do what they did because they saw you. And 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:16.519 I like listening to the kids, Bro. 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So kid Cutty replied, I'll be 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.160 honest with you, even when I was looking it up, 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:54.280 I don't know what sparked Cuddy doing this. 1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:54.680 I don't know. 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.800 Well, Jim Jones spoke first. Jim Jones Fair came on 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.320 this podcast. Jim Jones came out and said that people 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:02.960 only heard of Day and Night and Josh, can you 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:05.840 pull up the direct quote please, something along the lines 1:22:05.920 --> 1:22:09.400 of people only heard of Day and Night because Jim 1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:12.720 Jones remixed it, right, So then you get the internet, 1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.640 you get the New York Internet, agreeing with him in 1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:18.240 the other forty nine states, saying I've never even heard 1:22:18.280 --> 1:22:18.679 that version. 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:22.000 You know what's funny with that alone. 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.120 It's a cover of a song that's already out, So. 1:22:26.840 --> 1:22:29.080 Yeah, like, how can people only have heard it because 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:31.040 you remixed it or you made a cover of the song, 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:32.519 like that makes no sense. 1:22:32.640 --> 1:22:37.400 Okay, so people would know who Kid Cutty is, yeah, 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:39.200 he said, people with no Kid Cuddy. 1:22:39.600 --> 1:22:41.160 Okay, what was the original? 1:22:41.600 --> 1:22:44.040 So all right? I have some like actual talking about 1:22:44.080 --> 1:22:44.519 Day and Night? 1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:47.439 Yes, okay, So I have some actual, like. 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.639 Real knowledge into this timeline because I worked at Binnie 1:22:51.680 --> 1:22:56.559 Means when Binnie Means produced the video of Jim Jones 1:22:56.680 --> 1:22:58.800 in the booth. You can pull up Day and Night 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:03.840 remix Jim Jones. Aristotle produced that video. Bb Gun shot it. 1:23:03.840 --> 1:23:07.280 It was a by any Means production. At that time, 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:13.360 the song was still bubbling. Yes, did they play the 1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:16.240 Jim Jones verse first? That then got put into the 1:23:16.320 --> 1:23:19.120 Kid Cuddy Day and Night song on High ninety seven 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:21.280 on the radio when radio was still very very much 1:23:21.280 --> 1:23:24.120 prevalent in two thousand and eight and in the blogs. 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:28.040 Was was that a moment when Jim Jones got on it? 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:29.200 Absolutely? 1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:35.160 So. Jim's right for the tri state to some degree. 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.519 But at this time Cuddy was living in Brooklyn and 1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:41.280 Jersey City, like Cuddy was working that record in New York. 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:44.759 That's how Jim probably hurt it because Cuddy was working 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:47.599 that record. But to say that that moment of Jim 1:23:47.680 --> 1:23:51.000 Jones shooting that video in the studio, the red lights, 1:23:51.040 --> 1:23:54.280 the blunt of going on that beat, that's what played 1:23:54.640 --> 1:23:57.720 at parties, in the club and on the radio in 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:01.120 New York City. Only speaking about that, but to say 1:24:01.160 --> 1:24:04.439 that Hot ninety seven in two thousand and eight didn't 1:24:04.439 --> 1:24:08.519 determine the hip hop market of all fifty states, you're bugging. 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.640 Maybe that's New York ego, but there's no way that 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:14.679 you're telling me that what Hot ninety seven was doing 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:17.120 in two thousand and eight did not dictate what a 1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:20.400 lot of places were doing in middle markets. Atlanta, of course, 1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:22.200 is always going to do their own thing, La is 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:23.920 always going to do their own thing. But if you 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:27.200 don't think people are not following what Hot ninety seven 1:24:27.280 --> 1:24:27.960 does in. 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:29.599 This period, you're bugging. 1:24:29.840 --> 1:24:30.040 Now. 1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:34.080 With that said, I saw Cutty's response. He's also completely correct. 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:37.600 That record was going bro it was going so and 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.080 I think Cuddy is a publint. It was a New 1:24:40.160 --> 1:24:42.639 York City remix, but it was one of those things 1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:44.719 in New York that became a staple of Jim Jones 1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:48.200 on that record. But that record was going doog like 1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:50.480 and I think it's a hit record. 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:52.080 Where we have to be And that even goes back 1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:54.559 to the conversation that me and Maal just eventually agreed 1:24:54.600 --> 1:24:57.200 to disagree on when it came to is Drake the 1:24:57.240 --> 1:25:01.000 reason why the Migos exist? You can say I made 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:04.000 this better and I put more eyes on this, which 1:25:04.000 --> 1:25:07.759 you can't say, is this your career would never exist 1:25:07.840 --> 1:25:11.080 without me. There's a difference. There's a difference between I 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:14.080 helped you and I helped you grow. But there's also 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:17.200 some things that would all were always going to jump off. 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:19.320 It might have just taken a little bit longer. Day 1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:21.400 and Night was always going to be a hit. Jim 1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:23.680 Jones knew that. That's why the fuck he hopped out 1:25:23.840 --> 1:25:26.720 as no Artist's song, because the ship was so hot 1:25:26.760 --> 1:25:27.519 he had to be on it. 1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:29.840 Also, Jim Jim is an incredible a and R so 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:33.400 is Jim has always been great at understanding what sounds 1:25:33.400 --> 1:25:35.200 good before he even knew how to wrap. 1:25:35.680 --> 1:25:37.439 Jimmy was that good at that. 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:39.320 So yeah, he heard a record like, oh, this shit 1:25:39.400 --> 1:25:41.320 is hard, I don't care what the world thinks. I 1:25:41.360 --> 1:25:43.360 think it's hot, so I'm gonna get on the record. 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:45.559 Jimmy's always been that way, so I know probably in 1:25:45.600 --> 1:25:48.559 his brain he's thinking, like, I don't care if that 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:50.200 was gonna be a hit. I was rapping on that 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:54.120 no matter what. And yeah, it brought shit. My BlackBerry 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:58.160 with the side scroll ringtone was Jimmy's version of Day 1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:02.040 and Night and two thousand and eight like that, that 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:05.200 was a record. It played in the party better and 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:07.720 then Cuddy Shit came in and it was a moment 1:26:07.760 --> 1:26:09.599 because they had both of them and Jim coming off 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:11.160 ball in like it was a thing. 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:16.040 I think, can we put up when Day and Night 1:26:17.120 --> 1:26:19.959 uh played on Entourage? 1:26:21.000 --> 1:26:23.080 Because I think that was the That was definitely big. 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:23.760 That was the moment. 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:27.360 It was also big like when same era when Entourage 1:26:27.600 --> 1:26:30.960 had Charles Hamilton Brooklyn girls on it, that was big. 1:26:32.640 --> 1:26:37.120 Aserage premiered a a different version of What's the Kanye 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:44.000 with t Pain Good Life. Go watch Entourage. They premiered 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:46.080 the song the day before it came out. It's a 1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:48.760 different version. Kanye changed it that night. 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:49.720 I get what Jim is saying. 1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:53.280 Jim definitely, you know when he did Day and Night 1:26:54.200 --> 1:26:57.200 that went platinum in the hood for sure, But I 1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:59.200 mean Day and Night was gonna be Day and Night 1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:01.839 if Jim never did that. Yeah, Like when you're getting 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:06.400 your song placed on the biggest show on HBO, the 1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:10.240 Monumental Show, Like, if your song is making it there, bro, 1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:12.960 Jim never If Jim never did Day and Night over 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:14.800 that song was gonna be what it is, Like. 1:27:14.760 --> 1:27:17.360 That Cutty is a talent that if there's a bunch 1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:19.599 of people in his circle life that never existed, he's 1:27:19.600 --> 1:27:21.080 still gonna be cutting Like, yeah. 1:27:21.160 --> 1:27:23.920 It's now, but now Jim's Jim's version diggle platin. 1:27:23.680 --> 1:27:28.280 The hood hood like we're going to like, we're not 1:27:28.320 --> 1:27:30.840 gonna do that, But it also went platin in the 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:32.280 hood because the Day. 1:27:32.120 --> 1:27:34.600 And Night song, the Cuddy song was so dead and 1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:36.320 so was so big. 1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:38.600 And in the context that you guys pulled up. I 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:40.679 have to give some pushback, just on a personal level, 1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:43.640 he said, my intern shot that video. I mean, if 1:27:43.680 --> 1:27:47.439 you considered Aristotle an interurn, I guess that's fair. But 1:27:48.040 --> 1:27:50.200 I want to give a lot of credit to Aristotle, 1:27:50.200 --> 1:27:54.000 who went on to shoot videos for fucking nas fab 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:58.719 j Cole has a feature film on Hulu right now, 1:27:59.200 --> 1:28:03.000 like aristotleto is super established, So I kind of wish 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:05.440 Jimmy would have not said it that way because Aristotle's 1:28:05.439 --> 1:28:05.960 so established. 1:28:05.960 --> 1:28:07.519 You could have said, you know, Aristotle would bb gun 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:07.920 shot that. 1:28:08.560 --> 1:28:11.200 So that air that aired November two thousand and eight 1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:14.880 on Entourage Day and Night when the Gym's Day and 1:28:14.960 --> 1:28:20.160 Night drop same around the same time, because that was 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:22.880 two thousand and eight. 1:28:23.680 --> 1:28:25.160 October, if anything. 1:28:25.320 --> 1:28:28.320 So okay, so Gym's came out October two thousand and eight. Yeah, 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:31.439 and the Autarge episode was November two thousand and eight, which. 1:28:31.320 --> 1:28:33.200 Means it was shot probably seven months before. 1:28:34.200 --> 1:28:35.720 Yeah, but we can't you got to speak to when 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:39.160 it was played though, like when people actually heard Damnage. 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:41.479 So yeah, it's around the same time. But Day and 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:43.800 Night was definitely taken off way before that. 1:28:43.840 --> 1:28:44.040 Yeah. 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:47.040 But yeah, I was about to say even then Entourage 1:28:47.120 --> 1:28:49.479 of when they shoot everything and then do the scores, 1:28:49.520 --> 1:28:51.880 I guess, but that was playing on radio. 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:54.840 Yeah, that was that was it was a reversh Yeah, 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:57.400 that was a that was a big record. But it's just. 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:01.040 I get what Jim is saying, know, like, because he 1:29:01.080 --> 1:29:04.000 did that, you know, his version of the record, it 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.720 definitely was big, you know what I'm saying. But I 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:09.200 just think that Jim just you know, the words, just 1:29:09.360 --> 1:29:11.360 the wrong choice of words. 1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:13.840 See you beat Mare, you do that a lot for people. 1:29:13.920 --> 1:29:15.840 You give people a lot of better figued out and 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:18.800 be like no, never FERIORI would he be like, you know, 1:29:18.880 --> 1:29:20.840 I feel like he was trying to say, and I 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:23.040 think he was trying to say, no, niggas know what 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:23.759 they be saying. 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:26.040 That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying. 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:28.120 Is he just it's the wrong choice of words that 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:31.960 he chose. Now, the song, his version was big. Jim 1:29:32.000 --> 1:29:34.160 Jones version of the song was big. It was, like 1:29:34.160 --> 1:29:36.240 I said, in the hood, everybody was playing that shit. 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:39.599 So I get why in Jim's mind and his perception 1:29:39.880 --> 1:29:42.760 is because everybody he's around that That's what he was saying, 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.519 was his version of it. So I understand that. But 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:48.559 for him to say what he said, I'm just saying, like, nah, 1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:52.200 you you definitely your version of it definitely was big. 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:56.640 But that song was that song with or without your version. Like, 1:29:57.160 --> 1:29:58.519 but we're not going to take it away from Jim 1:29:58.720 --> 1:30:00.479 Jim's version of Damn Night being a. 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:02.680 Hit because it was oh yeah, no, two things. That's 1:30:02.720 --> 1:30:03.160 what I'm saying. 1:30:03.160 --> 1:30:05.200 Just just the wrong choice of words that he chose, 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:07.040 that's all. I'm not saying that he didn't mean what 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:09.320 he said. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying 1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:12.640 he chose the wrong words, because day and night, Kid Cuddy. 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:15.040 He chose the right words to prove his wrong point. 1:30:15.320 --> 1:30:20.479 But even again, oh yes, yes, but also with somebody 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:24.000 that's been batting a thousand on cosons, I can see 1:30:24.000 --> 1:30:26.120 why he would think, like, no, everything that I co 1:30:26.280 --> 1:30:30.320 signed before everyone else does in my circle clearly seems 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:33.760 to be right. But also in two thousand and eight, 1:30:34.400 --> 1:30:36.240 the entire music industry had moved to LA. 1:30:36.360 --> 1:30:38.240 Yet let's not act like. 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:40.840 All the execs that was pushing everything with Cutty wasn't 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:43.000 in their cars going home like, oh shit, all right, 1:30:43.960 --> 1:30:46.400 Jimmy on this, this is going crazy in New York. 1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:49.479 Let's not act like that's not a thing at that time. 1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:52.120 You guys can say we're irrelevant now, and it's fine. 1:30:52.120 --> 1:30:54.960 We can argue about that at another time. In two 1:30:55.040 --> 1:30:58.479 thousand and seven to eight, Yes, it was a thing 1:30:58.680 --> 1:31:00.639 that Jim Jones and Kid Cutty were playing on Hoigh 1:31:00.720 --> 1:31:04.360 ninety seven NonStop for every exec on their drive home back. 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:04.840 To New Jersey. 1:31:05.920 --> 1:31:09.040 For sure, Like, yeah, I'm mad at that. 1:31:09.160 --> 1:31:11.920 Like that, definitely, I'm sure that helped Cutty in his meetings. 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:14.320 Cuddy is a genius. He's going to be cutting no 1:31:14.360 --> 1:31:16.200 matter what. But let's not act like at that time 1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:19.479 when everyone was gravitating towards that song with the execs 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:21.840 that lived in the energy of this city at that time, 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:25.000 that wasn't helpful. I know if I was in an 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:27.880 A and R office in every fucking morning I'm driving 1:31:27.880 --> 1:31:29.600 to work, and every night I'm driving to work, I 1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:33.719 hear this goddamn song with Jimmy's version on it coming 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:35.880 off the bones, Like, all right, cool Cuddy is at 1:31:35.880 --> 1:31:37.679 this point too. You have to understand it's two thousand 1:31:37.680 --> 1:31:39.920 and eight. They're just getting into the tight pants thing. 1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:43.160 This is eight to Ways and Heartbreaks. Nope, same, We 1:31:43.160 --> 1:31:45.160 talking about Kanye kind of being a trailblazer where it 1:31:45.160 --> 1:31:47.480 was cool to be a nerd just for him. 1:31:47.800 --> 1:31:48.160 All right. 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:50.640 The Hood is coson in this because don't act like 1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:52.719 the office at that time didn't think what the hood 1:31:52.800 --> 1:31:54.840 was thinking at that time. Jimmy was a good co 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:57.479 sign for what was going on. Cuddy is a little left. 1:31:57.600 --> 1:31:59.920 We heard he's working on this Kanye album. I don't 1:31:59.880 --> 1:32:01.800 know he wears weird tight pants. He's out of his 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:05.320 fucking mind. Yeah, a co sign from the Hood at 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:08.040 that time for an exec, like, all right, cool, the 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:12.040 Hood's fucking with it. This sound isn't that crazy because 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:15.120 we're coming off all rom browse shit at that time. 1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:20.240 This is polished. This is like eighties pop, weird dark 1:32:20.400 --> 1:32:23.880 tones and shit. Yeah, this is kind of nuts coming 1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:25.599 off that rom browse shit. That the Hood will fuck 1:32:25.600 --> 1:32:30.200 with this. That's important, Yeah, to how a record starts 1:32:30.200 --> 1:32:32.200 to get broken. I know everyone wants to take credit 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:35.360 once the record is number five on Billboard, But it 1:32:35.400 --> 1:32:39.200 takes the Hood to get it there, that's all, especially 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:39.439 if that I. 1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:40.720 Don't think it takes the Hood to get it there. 1:32:40.720 --> 1:32:44.000 But at this time with execs and in buildings, that's 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:44.400 a thing. 1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:45.880 Energy used to be a thing. 1:32:47.200 --> 1:32:48.720 That's where you get sav and Steve O best of 1:32:48.760 --> 1:32:51.040 both offices, people that actually used to go out into 1:32:52.080 --> 1:32:54.360 the street and figure out what the fuck was happening 1:32:54.840 --> 1:32:58.679 in not New York City but the entire country. Everything 1:32:58.720 --> 1:33:01.960 people say that the lab are missing is where you 1:33:02.120 --> 1:33:05.200 merge Jim Jones and Kid Cuddy with Day and Night. 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:06.320 That's when shit worked. 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:09.040 Ye all, right, hood co son and his weirdo shit 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:10.679 and I don't mean weirdo in a bad way. 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:13.160 Hood his co on and his weirdoshit. 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:15.280 Bottom line, this day and night was a smash. 1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:16.200 Cuddy out of here. 1:33:16.320 --> 1:33:19.240 And it doesn't matter A huge record, huge record, no 1:33:19.280 --> 1:33:20.840 matter who remixed it, huge record. 1:33:21.600 --> 1:33:23.679 Are you guys gonna watch this? Hit Boy and Mike 1:33:23.800 --> 1:33:25.520 Will made it versus. 1:33:25.400 --> 1:33:26.479 Oh kick ass? 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:26.880 For sure? 1:33:29.320 --> 1:33:32.280 I watched because a lot of records, Because h hip 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.080 boy Mike Will got a lot of fucking records. 1:33:34.080 --> 1:33:37.320 I'll tell you that. Yeah, I'm watching this. Who y'all 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:40.800 think is gonna win? Hit Boy? Yeah? You said that 1:33:40.840 --> 1:33:42.840 really quickly. I agree. But you said that quickly. 1:33:43.360 --> 1:33:45.000 I mean I say it all the time, and not 1:33:45.040 --> 1:33:47.599 just because that's my guy. Hip Boy might be the 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:52.559 most talented producer. When you can produce an entire collection 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:56.479 for Nas and then you know, produce for Beyonce and 1:33:56.520 --> 1:34:02.360 then you know, produce for you know, Nipsy, and you know, 1:34:02.400 --> 1:34:07.600 it's just the range that hit Boy has is it's undeniable, 1:34:07.640 --> 1:34:09.479 you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just it's unbia 1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:10.360 it is. 1:34:11.640 --> 1:34:14.360 But for the first ten I think Mike Will might 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:16.559 the first ten. I think it's gonna be up and up, 1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:18.960 but I think after after those ten, I think hit 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:20.000 boy will start to come in. 1:34:20.160 --> 1:34:20.680 Here's the thing. 1:34:20.800 --> 1:34:23.400 I think Mike will Is is kind of like the 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:26.559 Atlanta hit Boy because I'm with you. 1:34:27.600 --> 1:34:29.400 Hit Boy's range is absolutely insane. 1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:31.200 He can he can play a Beyonce. 1:34:31.439 --> 1:34:34.479 But if you can go from Meik Millon Ross Tupac 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:38.280 back and then go to Miley Cyrus record, Mike will 1:34:38.400 --> 1:34:41.240 has the most insane. He has ranged as well. Listen, 1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:42.800 there's a reason why this is gonna be dope. They 1:34:42.800 --> 1:34:47.800 both have in future. That's the point, hit Boy, it's 1:34:47.880 --> 1:34:49.920 not knows why you changed. 1:34:49.960 --> 1:34:52.200 And if you play that, If you play that future record, Mike, 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:54.360 what what happens to if throwing niggas in Paris? 1:34:55.000 --> 1:34:58.439 So niggas in Paris is automatic win? Right, automatic win? 1:34:58.520 --> 1:35:00.920 But you know what else is also a automatic win? 1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:04.320 Poured up? Poured up is an automatic win to me 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:07.120 for a lot of people. You gotta remember it's not 1:35:07.439 --> 1:35:14.400 it's not just about Rihanna up. I still got my money, 1:35:14.439 --> 1:35:18.719 yeah yeah, like and and make her dances automatic win. 1:35:18.880 --> 1:35:22.080 But also that Michael has Beyonce. Didn you do formation. 1:35:23.000 --> 1:35:26.120 Uh, was Formation him or hit Boy? No, that was 1:35:26.160 --> 1:35:29.200 Mike Will, Oh it was and don't get a twisted ship. 1:35:29.280 --> 1:35:32.200 Hip Boy has records on the last two Beyonce. 1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.080 Yeah, Project No, yeah, that is that's him? Were the 1:35:35.120 --> 1:35:37.559 sixteen candleship Like, but I don't know if that Black. 1:35:37.400 --> 1:35:40.320 Beatles Black in a versus today Black Beatles Black Beatles 1:35:40.320 --> 1:35:40.639 in the City. 1:35:40.640 --> 1:35:42.919 We talk about twenty sixteen, Like come on now. 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:46.400 No, this is this actually in a weird way, makes 1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:49.840 more sense than the Boy Wonder and Hip Boy Battle. 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:54.200 M hmm, yeah, because of the range you're talking about. 1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:58.160 Yeah, they both just have a lot of records, also 1:35:58.200 --> 1:35:59.479 with the same artists as well. 1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:04.920 In the jobs. Can you pull up that billboard top producers? Oh, 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:07.120 I didn't. I didn't like where was hit Boy at 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:07.360 on that? 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:11.760 I didn't know that Mike Will did Humble by Kendrick Lamon. 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:12.639 That's crazy. 1:36:12.800 --> 1:36:17.040 So all right, Humble and DNA versus Mad City, which 1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:18.920 is one of the craziest hit Boy beats of all time, 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:19.920 which is off good kid map. 1:36:19.920 --> 1:36:21.479 I think you're pulling up is this R and B 1:36:22.000 --> 1:36:24.439 was producers? Okay? 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:27.080 Yeah, but I mean a lot of these didn't go 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:30.960 with specific rings, like Boy Wonder has rightfully so hit 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:32.439 records with I Just want to show you one else, 1:36:32.479 --> 1:36:34.000 but has so many with Drake hit. 1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:34.479 Boy was on it. 1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:36.800 Move That Dope by Just Move That Dope. 1:36:36.520 --> 1:36:38.840 Control F and then type and Hip Boy, I'm gonna 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:40.200 you and I are going to go through like a 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:41.120 Microsoft word. 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:49.519 Move that Dope by Future pharrells. Wow, one of my 1:36:49.560 --> 1:36:50.599 favorite beats of all time. 1:36:51.280 --> 1:36:53.200 No hit Boy on the top producers of the twenty 1:36:53.200 --> 1:36:54.960 first century? Who did the list? 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:55.559 Rolling Stone? 1:36:55.600 --> 1:36:56.200 What you expect? 1:36:56.200 --> 1:36:58.400 Well, no, no Billboard. It's based off like actual data. 1:36:58.640 --> 1:37:01.559 Oh and my thing with hip Boy has I don't 1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:03.880 even want to call him cl classics because they're huge records, 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:06.839 but hip Boy has more of like the records Beyonce 1:37:07.040 --> 1:37:09.519 was experimenting on rather than the hit records. 1:37:10.080 --> 1:37:11.439 Niggas in Paris is a top song. 1:37:12.840 --> 1:37:15.320 Of course that should be like that's automatic win. There's 1:37:15.320 --> 1:37:18.479 nothing that a loan should put him somewhere based off 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:23.719 how many you have. So even if that's that's one, I. 1:37:23.600 --> 1:37:26.800 Guess, yeah know, though it is gonna be interested though 1:37:27.439 --> 1:37:29.040 no tire, it still works. 1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:32.960 Click Click goes Click is gonna go crazy. Sickle Mode 1:37:33.080 --> 1:37:35.120 is gonna go crazy. 1:37:35.920 --> 1:37:36.680 That's that's hip boy. 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:43.800 That's not like Will I know I'm hit boy. 1:37:42.800 --> 1:37:45.559 He's not even he's not he has to be pictures 1:37:45.600 --> 1:37:48.599 right there. He's literally as big as for real. 1:37:48.800 --> 1:37:50.880 So I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:55.480 Mike Will has more hits, hits, he has a significant. 1:37:55.280 --> 1:37:57.719 We've seen in verses where that doesn't necessarily mean. 1:37:57.560 --> 1:37:59.479 Everything got to be on others. 1:37:59.280 --> 1:38:02.760 It's it's kind of how you structure your playlist and 1:38:02.800 --> 1:38:04.719 how songs go against each other, Like. 1:38:04.880 --> 1:38:07.360 It's how Yeah, that's a very big part of the verses. 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:09.160 You can have more hits that don't mean anything. 1:38:09.200 --> 1:38:12.120 It's like when you play him versus like especially if 1:38:12.120 --> 1:38:13.240 I got to play a record. 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:14.799 First, it's like playing a hand of spades. 1:38:15.479 --> 1:38:17.400 You got to play your hand right, because now if 1:38:17.439 --> 1:38:22.000 I play, you know, one of my biggest records, and 1:38:22.040 --> 1:38:24.400 then you play something that people just like more, it's like, Okay, 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:26.960 who got that? Yeah, Like I'm not saying they might 1:38:26.960 --> 1:38:29.040 have charted the song I play, might have charted hiding 1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:30.639 the one you played, But as. 1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:34.799 Like in the jay z Jar another tip his biggest 1:38:34.840 --> 1:38:38.280 record New York, State of mont or Empire statement yeah, 1:38:38.520 --> 1:38:41.240 you think jay Z's playing that in his verses. No, 1:38:41.560 --> 1:38:43.760 of course, not like just because you have bigger hits 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:47.400 there doesn't mean anything. Yeah, and even I wouldn't say 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.559 Ludacris shouldn't have beat Nelly, but it shouldn't have been 1:38:49.560 --> 1:38:53.439 a wash. Nelly had had an awful Like how did 1:38:53.479 --> 1:38:55.000 you even think to structure it this way? 1:38:55.080 --> 1:38:57.320 Yeah, I'm excited. 1:38:57.360 --> 1:38:59.120 I'm curious if they're going to go one for one 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:01.519 or if it's going to be the fifteen minutes set 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:02.679 verse fifteen minutes set. 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:04.080 I think it should be that. 1:39:04.320 --> 1:39:05.840 I prefer that. I think it's cool that. 1:39:06.040 --> 1:39:08.680 I think that the whole versus is. I think we 1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:11.519 kind of got away from what it was at one point. 1:39:11.600 --> 1:39:14.560 It kind of turned into more of a just showcase 1:39:15.320 --> 1:39:18.200 of songs, and you know, performative is more performative now. 1:39:20.080 --> 1:39:21.920 So I like that way of doing it, like that, 1:39:21.920 --> 1:39:24.280 that type of setup, like you take fifteen minutes, I 1:39:24.320 --> 1:39:25.200 take fifteen minutes. 1:39:25.280 --> 1:39:27.080 Yeah, I mean the last one they did with cash 1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:28.679 money and no limit, they did it that way. And 1:39:28.720 --> 1:39:31.639 hopefully there's performers like I would love to see Race 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:34.080 Fremmer together again with Mike will JD. 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:36.200 Definitely dodged the bullet with that bad boy one didn't. 1:39:36.240 --> 1:39:42.000 He wouldn't want to be attached to that. 1:39:42.960 --> 1:39:44.719 And I'm talking about they was going for the Mercedes 1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:45.240 Benz Stadium. 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.120 I know that was gonna be I know they boot 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:49.879 that was that was gonna be a d and everything. 1:39:49.880 --> 1:39:50.400 Hey JD. 1:39:50.520 --> 1:39:55.200 I know I know he happy that one didn't go down. Yeah, 1:39:55.439 --> 1:39:56.760 to have to pull that up and look at that 1:39:56.800 --> 1:39:58.120 over and over again on YouTube. 1:39:58.200 --> 1:39:58.479 Shit. 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:02.160 Speaking of Jad, I did listen to Ari lennox album 1:40:02.240 --> 1:40:03.880 Vacancye over the weekend. 1:40:04.560 --> 1:40:06.040 It's good, It's really good. 1:40:06.040 --> 1:40:11.759 It's it feels like Ari is more comfortable and less 1:40:12.040 --> 1:40:14.360 anxious than she was on the last project, because I 1:40:14.439 --> 1:40:15.960 know she was dealing with a lot of stuff behind 1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:18.720 the scenes with labels and this and that is this 1:40:19.040 --> 1:40:23.200 is this a fuck Dreamville? I wouldn't say that. They 1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:26.160 said it was a very horny album, but but Ari's 1:40:26.200 --> 1:40:28.080 always well, she got. 1:40:27.880 --> 1:40:30.000 Off the label and now she can be horny against. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.439 Okay, because you know, you squirted when you're comfortable. 1:40:33.040 --> 1:40:36.120 You got to be the most comfortable, got to be. 1:40:36.200 --> 1:40:37.639 If she's not comfortable, she ain't gonna squirt. 1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:37.800 Worry. 1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:39.000 I don't know if you knew that or I don't 1:40:39.040 --> 1:40:39.760 know that. 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:41.599 That's a call back, y'all. I'm not being over the freakdown. 1:40:42.560 --> 1:40:46.200 That's very funny. Uh. 1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:48.479 Well, all of Ari's music, I wouldn't say Ari's music 1:40:48.560 --> 1:40:52.640 is horny, but she's always talked about sex through or 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:56.040 just because it's a neo soul sound. Are you listening 1:40:56.040 --> 1:40:56.559 to the lyrics? 1:40:56.600 --> 1:40:58.400 First of all, the Neil's soul women are the most 1:40:58.439 --> 1:41:00.879 horny Jill Scott just because. 1:41:00.680 --> 1:41:03.000 They got the pepper liner to a MIC's and I 1:41:03.040 --> 1:41:04.360 feel like instance. 1:41:04.439 --> 1:41:06.400 And they got Bob Marley on the wall. Don't think 1:41:06.439 --> 1:41:08.000 that she ain't about to go in there and squirt 1:41:08.040 --> 1:41:08.679 all over the place. 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:11.800 Yo. Yeah, I mean, don't let that neo soul shit 1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:13.840 for you. Just shade but and all that, I know, 1:41:14.320 --> 1:41:16.479 But no, most of I want to say most, but 1:41:16.520 --> 1:41:19.120 a lot of Ari's music is I wouldn't say, just 1:41:19.160 --> 1:41:24.320 sexually explicit. Yeah, the record we did together, the first 1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:26.599 bar is ex videos. I don't need those anymore. 1:41:26.760 --> 1:41:32.040 Mm hmm, I know, I know, yeah. 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:35.160 But no, it feels it feels like she had less 1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:38.439 people in her ear and knowing her, this felt like 1:41:38.439 --> 1:41:42.840 an album that she actually had full fucking control with 1:41:42.840 --> 1:41:46.519 with j D and Brian Michael Cox because they executive 1:41:46.520 --> 1:41:48.560 produced the whole thing and they did everything in the 1:41:48.680 --> 1:41:54.559 compound Atlanta. No, it's good, It's very good. It stripped 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:56.720 all the fat of the last two projects where I 1:41:56.720 --> 1:41:58.200 felt like she was super in her head and had 1:41:58.200 --> 1:42:01.559 too many people telling her what to do. It's not 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:03.479 far off her regular sound. If you're an Ari fan, 1:42:03.520 --> 1:42:05.000 it's still an Ari album. 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:06.040 This shit what she wouldn't know. 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:09.120 She's with Interscope, so she was signed with Dreamville and 1:42:09.200 --> 1:42:12.840 Interscope left Interscope, I'm sorry, left dream Bilt just. 1:42:12.760 --> 1:42:13.599 Stayed within her scope. 1:42:13.680 --> 1:42:15.120 God, which is good too, because if you're not on 1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:17.280 a sub label, now you own fifty percent when I own, 1:42:17.320 --> 1:42:19.400 but you're fifty percent of your shit as opposed to 1:42:19.439 --> 1:42:21.960 twenty five because if you signed it with sub label, 1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:26.280 they take twenty five. And yeah, so signing direct to 1:42:26.280 --> 1:42:28.960 the labels, yeah, a bit more profitable. 1:42:29.160 --> 1:42:31.280 I'll get it. Shout out my Niga. 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:34.639 Ari, but yeah, no, check out Ari Vacancy. Really good album. 1:42:34.640 --> 1:42:37.760 Shout out to what JD got he got in his bag. 1:42:38.000 --> 1:42:40.080 He has little ad libs and shit on there. I 1:42:40.080 --> 1:42:42.280 felt like I was listening to some Aria shit back 1:42:42.280 --> 1:42:44.200 in the day. A lot of it is like two 1:42:44.200 --> 1:42:46.880 thousands of Mariah and I'm about to go run to 1:42:46.920 --> 1:42:49.160 it right now. No, and she and Ari was always 1:42:49.200 --> 1:42:53.080 great with valseatto shit, but she went more volsatto than 1:42:53.120 --> 1:42:56.080 I've ever heard her before on her previous projects. But 1:42:56.479 --> 1:42:58.360 now JD throwing a little ad libs in there, and 1:42:58.400 --> 1:43:00.800 I was like, Okay, I'm not mad at this shit. 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:05.160 JD and B Cox at the whole album fire. Yeah, 1:43:05.360 --> 1:43:05.800 in the. 1:43:05.800 --> 1:43:08.080 Studio that we've bentually they locked in and it just 1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:09.639 did the entire thing fire. 1:43:10.080 --> 1:43:11.360 So I liked. 1:43:11.439 --> 1:43:13.240 I liked that R and B compound there where they 1:43:13.280 --> 1:43:17.400 were Division eighty five and j JD. 1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:18.759 Even doing that for a lot of years. 1:43:18.760 --> 1:43:22.760 Man, Like I you know, I always speak highly JD, 1:43:22.880 --> 1:43:32.040 like he's what he's been doing, you know, the last. 1:43:29.560 --> 1:43:34.559 Fuck thirty years more than that Chris where I was born. 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:41.120 Yeah, Chris Cross was the early nineties were approaching almost 1:43:41.720 --> 1:43:42.960 JD's been working. 1:43:42.760 --> 1:43:45.360 Over thirty over thirty five years. 1:43:45.120 --> 1:43:49.120 Thirty five now sobly thirty eight probably thirty five years yeah, nineties. 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:51.200 Yeah, I'm ninety one. 1:43:51.880 --> 1:43:53.880 No, but even I don't think Chris Cross was even 1:43:53.880 --> 1:43:54.920 his first group. 1:43:56.680 --> 1:43:58.240 That might have been the first one, though. 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:00.080 I'm saying that was the first one that popped. But 1:44:00.120 --> 1:44:01.759 he's been working well. 1:44:01.600 --> 1:44:04.519 No, he's been I'm from about JD is a hip 1:44:04.560 --> 1:44:05.080 hop baby. 1:44:05.080 --> 1:44:07.479 He was back, he was jump came out in ninety two, 1:44:07.880 --> 1:44:08.280 ninety two. 1:44:08.360 --> 1:44:10.639 Oh, let's give him since the nineteen since nineteen ninety, 1:44:10.680 --> 1:44:11.559 let's give him since that. 1:44:11.680 --> 1:44:14.519 So I said thirty five almost thirty five years. Thirty 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:15.160 four years. 1:44:15.600 --> 1:44:18.360 Shit, It's funny anytime I've been to his compound and 1:44:18.400 --> 1:44:22.400 there's been like a big R and B artist there 1:44:22.439 --> 1:44:25.800 that didn't work with him prior. Every single time I've 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:27.160 talked with him on the side and be like, yo, 1:44:27.840 --> 1:44:30.120 I've never been with a legend that still touches the machine, 1:44:31.920 --> 1:44:34.160 which to me is a big big things. Like every 1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:36.439 time I get with a list legendary producer, they don't 1:44:36.479 --> 1:44:38.519 touch like they just be hitting space bar and some shit, 1:44:38.720 --> 1:44:39.360 and I'm like. 1:44:39.920 --> 1:44:41.120 All right, who who did that? 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:43.439 No, JD is still JD sits there and cooks up 1:44:43.479 --> 1:44:47.000 from scratch. He's going to hit every instrument when you're 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:47.720 in there, like. 1:44:47.960 --> 1:44:48.599 Shout out to him. 1:44:48.640 --> 1:44:50.439 And because I think they was number one, number two 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:53.400 on the Top Producers of the twenty thirt which they 1:44:53.439 --> 1:44:54.120 fucking should be. 1:44:54.240 --> 1:44:56.120 That's insane. Shout out to the guys. JD. 1:44:56.560 --> 1:45:01.080 Brian talks before we get to either voicemails or close 1:45:01.120 --> 1:45:03.040 out this first Netflix episode. 1:45:03.720 --> 1:45:04.799 Good job, guys. 1:45:04.960 --> 1:45:07.000 I do I really. 1:45:06.880 --> 1:45:09.719 Hope this Chad Hugo and Pharrell thing gets gets solved. 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:12.040 I'm not mad at at if Chad feels like he 1:45:12.120 --> 1:45:14.639 was done wrong and he's owed royalties. We know Chad 1:45:14.720 --> 1:45:17.640 Hugo is a genius the same way that Farrell is 1:45:17.640 --> 1:45:18.200 a genius. 1:45:19.120 --> 1:45:20.719 We know Chad is just kept to himself. 1:45:20.720 --> 1:45:23.200 But if you're not paying royalties, and I'm not saying 1:45:23.200 --> 1:45:25.880 Pharrell is even responsible for that, he could have put 1:45:25.920 --> 1:45:29.880 that in people's hands, his business management team and said, hey, 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:32.840 you figure out the publishing, make sure everyone's paid. I 1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:35.360 don't want to sit here and condemn Pharrell for those 1:45:35.400 --> 1:45:37.800 types of things because I don't know the information. If 1:45:37.800 --> 1:45:39.720 he did that shit, I'm here to condemn him, my 1:45:39.760 --> 1:45:42.840 favorite producer, I'd still condemn him. But I hope they 1:45:42.920 --> 1:45:43.519 figured this out. 1:45:44.160 --> 1:45:44.680 I don't want to. 1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:50.560 See my favorite fucking production duo just be in this 1:45:50.640 --> 1:45:52.280 place where no one's getting paid. 1:45:52.280 --> 1:45:56.200 What the heir owed this? This was sad sad to see. 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:01.920 Yeah, but if I'm Chad does yeah, fucking pay me 1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:05.479 what you owe me. I'm not gonna sit here for 1:46:05.560 --> 1:46:07.519 the for the love of the game, for the love 1:46:07.520 --> 1:46:14.080 of the game. No, and and and again, I don't 1:46:14.080 --> 1:46:17.080 we don't know the full details. They just said that 1:46:17.800 --> 1:46:22.800 Chad Hugo had filed a lawsuit for specific records Drop 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:25.920 It Like It's Hot, how the bat Girl Moneymaker? 1:46:26.040 --> 1:46:27.640 You know, just billion dollar songs. 1:46:27.880 --> 1:46:31.720 Right, some songs that literally kept on the lights of 1:46:31.800 --> 1:46:32.800 some of these offices. 1:46:33.800 --> 1:46:37.760 Still, yes, the back catalog is and I mean and 1:46:37.800 --> 1:46:40.280 that was at the time, you know who knows what 1:46:40.439 --> 1:46:43.400 MTV news with pr when they were like, oh no, 1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:45.640 it's a I think it was a million dollars for 1:46:45.720 --> 1:46:48.080 Drop It Like It's Hot that I was a kid, 1:46:48.439 --> 1:46:51.880 But I remember watching MTV and they asked Snoop Dogg 1:46:52.000 --> 1:46:53.960 was like, would you pay for that beat? It's like 1:46:54.000 --> 1:46:55.799 I had to pay Forell a million dollars for that beat. 1:46:56.760 --> 1:46:57.960 A million dollars for one beat. 1:46:58.320 --> 1:46:58.920 It was worth it. 1:46:59.400 --> 1:47:02.760 That's up front. That's not you still get. Yeah, you 1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:04.719 don't know anything. I don't know a lot of priters 1:47:04.760 --> 1:47:06.800 don't take any money upfront. You just get fifty percent 1:47:06.840 --> 1:47:08.080 pub and you can live for the rest of your 1:47:08.120 --> 1:47:10.800 life off that shit. Farrell was charging a million dollars 1:47:10.840 --> 1:47:13.120 a beat at that time in fifty percent. 1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:15.439 Publishing, and you don't know what that song is gonna do. 1:47:15.720 --> 1:47:18.479 It sounds great in the studio, we all vibe into it, 1:47:18.479 --> 1:47:20.920 the homies just fucking with it. We don't know what 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:22.880 this is going to do in the world, though, so 1:47:22.960 --> 1:47:24.960 I might be overpaying for this beat, and it's like 1:47:25.160 --> 1:47:26.439 that shit I ain't even recool. 1:47:26.960 --> 1:47:30.080 Now, obviously we know Chad is no novice to anything. 1:47:31.200 --> 1:47:34.280 I give for a lot of credit because, like Swizz, 1:47:34.680 --> 1:47:36.960 I've seen interviews where artists are like, why Swiz and 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:39.160 Pharrell were so great to work with. When I got 1:47:39.160 --> 1:47:41.840 to the studio, they had the beat and the hook 1:47:41.880 --> 1:47:44.679 already done. All I had to do was fill in 1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:48.280 the verses. This wasn't even a cookup session. You gave 1:47:48.320 --> 1:47:50.559 me a hit record. You're on the hook, you wrote 1:47:50.600 --> 1:47:53.479 the hook, here's the beat. I'm filling in three verses 1:47:53.560 --> 1:47:55.439 and we're done. I could do that in ten minutes, 1:47:55.640 --> 1:47:57.360 and now I have the biggest record of my life. 1:47:59.760 --> 1:48:00.559 If Fharrell is. 1:48:00.479 --> 1:48:02.439 Writing those hooks, yeah, I could see him taking more 1:48:02.520 --> 1:48:05.800 royalties in pub on certain things. But there's a lot 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:09.519 of Chad beats with the Neptunes that everyone says Farrell 1:48:09.560 --> 1:48:12.120 had nothing to do with, and Chad did all the beats. 1:48:13.240 --> 1:48:14.720 I don't know what's true at all. I just know 1:48:14.760 --> 1:48:17.479 they're my favorite production duo and I hope they figure 1:48:17.520 --> 1:48:19.840 it out. But I just don't think Chad, who's been 1:48:19.840 --> 1:48:24.040 mana his business and is quiet, is doing this for 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:24.599 no reason. 1:48:25.160 --> 1:48:28.720 Do you think that where there's smoke, there's fire in 1:48:28.960 --> 1:48:32.320 sense of like Pharrell being a little bit funny with money, 1:48:32.360 --> 1:48:36.320 because Kalise has been complaining about him for years as well. 1:48:37.680 --> 1:48:42.760 Possibly, and again I don't want to discredit Kalise whatsoever. 1:48:43.080 --> 1:48:46.000 I mean that that album in itself is like a 1:48:46.080 --> 1:48:49.080 two thousands classic. The amount of kids that came from 1:48:49.120 --> 1:48:52.479 that album. Tyler's a kid from that album. You listening 1:48:52.479 --> 1:48:55.439 to Tyler albums now and you can hear Thecalise's first 1:48:55.439 --> 1:48:59.040 album and you hear the same shit. I've also heard 1:48:59.080 --> 1:49:00.680 that she didn't write on it, but I don't want 1:49:00.680 --> 1:49:01.000 to take that. 1:49:00.920 --> 1:49:02.080 From Chalice because I don't fucking know. 1:49:02.120 --> 1:49:02.760 I was a kid. 1:49:03.000 --> 1:49:07.440 Yeah, But there's been so many conflicting points from producers, 1:49:07.479 --> 1:49:11.519 engineers on who wrote what, and a lot of people 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:13.920 have said, all right, Pharro wrote some of that shit, 1:49:14.040 --> 1:49:17.120 so why wouldn't he take royalties on it? 1:49:18.040 --> 1:49:21.240 So I don't know. It's the most confusing business on earth. 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.559 Yeah, if I make a T shirt, the T shirt's 1:49:24.560 --> 1:49:27.720 ten dollars, the designer charges this much, and we put 1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:30.360 it up for fifty percent markup, and the person distributed 1:49:30.360 --> 1:49:33.559 and gets ten percent. That's an easy business. I don't 1:49:33.560 --> 1:49:35.760 know what a baseline cost or what it's going to 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:38.800 affect how many points. I don't know what that is. 1:49:39.120 --> 1:49:41.720 If I make a baseline that we later find out 1:49:41.800 --> 1:49:44.000 is the reason why everyone loves this song, I'm going 1:49:44.040 --> 1:49:46.160 to be sitting there like, YO, give me my fucking money, dog, 1:49:46.720 --> 1:49:49.639 that's the reason why we all love this shit. Now, 1:49:49.680 --> 1:49:51.880 you can't do that with a T shirt. I sold 1:49:51.920 --> 1:49:53.240 you this T shirt for ten bucks. 1:49:53.640 --> 1:49:55.639 Yeah, this T shirt is always worth ten bucks. 1:49:57.280 --> 1:50:00.639 This moment was like, it's such a confused in business 1:50:00.640 --> 1:50:04.360 that it's enemies and awful people in it. 1:50:04.439 --> 1:50:06.120 For sure. It's not even when the people that are 1:50:06.160 --> 1:50:07.240 trying their best. It's tough. 1:50:07.280 --> 1:50:09.760 It's not a confusing business. People make it confusion. 1:50:09.880 --> 1:50:11.680 I'm saying we publishing specifically. 1:50:12.000 --> 1:50:16.400 That's still not confusing. Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra had 1:50:16.439 --> 1:50:17.080 no confusion. 1:50:17.600 --> 1:50:18.880 Well they're going to fifty fifty. 1:50:19.920 --> 1:50:21.879 You see how us that no confusion. 1:50:21.960 --> 1:50:24.719 But then no contracts and we never had a contract 1:50:24.760 --> 1:50:27.680 with each other, none of that handshake conversation. This will 1:50:27.720 --> 1:50:31.080 we this is how we rocket. People make it confusion 1:50:31.880 --> 1:50:35.000 when they start doing funck shit. It's not always function. 1:50:35.080 --> 1:50:39.519 But I'm saying, no, sometimes you might not. Sometimes two 1:50:39.560 --> 1:50:44.320 people can disagree on how much they brought to a project. 1:50:44.400 --> 1:50:46.920 You I bought this and you bought this. You might 1:50:47.040 --> 1:50:49.240 value this more, but I value this more. The fans 1:50:49.320 --> 1:50:51.280 value this more. It can get confusing. 1:50:51.560 --> 1:50:54.360 No, you make it confusion. We were having this conversation 1:50:54.439 --> 1:50:55.519 before anything goes. 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:55.920 Out this door. 1:50:56.120 --> 1:50:58.280 No, we're making what happens that song in the studio 1:50:58.560 --> 1:51:03.080 right again here, right now. We haven't touched the lyric, 1:51:03.200 --> 1:51:06.160 nothing has been played nothing. We're having a conversation. Yo, 1:51:06.200 --> 1:51:07.400 this is how we This is what we're doing. 1:51:08.360 --> 1:51:09.000 That's not work. 1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:11.240 That's I was gonna say that, but that's the creative process. 1:51:11.439 --> 1:51:14.760 You haven't created anything. You don't know what you're going 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:16.759 to create. Are you see what I'm saying. I can't 1:51:16.760 --> 1:51:20.080 tell you what my worth is right with with this beat, 1:51:20.320 --> 1:51:22.920 I'm making a beatcalices writing lyrics. I can't tell you 1:51:22.960 --> 1:51:25.760 what this beat is worth because I haven't created it yet. 1:51:25.800 --> 1:51:27.800 I can't tell you what these lyrics are worth because 1:51:27.840 --> 1:51:29.880 I haven't created it yet. Is the is the beat 1:51:29.920 --> 1:51:32.840 the most important? But important is the lyrics? You don't 1:51:32.840 --> 1:51:34.120 know the part. 1:51:33.960 --> 1:51:37.160 You're missing, is what I'm saying. You look at somebody. 1:51:37.200 --> 1:51:38.840 I don't know if any of these people were talking 1:51:38.840 --> 1:51:42.280 about have a more extensive catalog or more you know, 1:51:43.680 --> 1:51:48.680 value catalog than Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra, Pharrell. 1:51:48.400 --> 1:51:49.320 Whoever else you want to name. 1:51:49.360 --> 1:51:51.439 I don't know if their catalog is worth more than 1:51:51.479 --> 1:51:54.160 Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra. What I'm saying is the 1:51:54.160 --> 1:52:00.439 conversation that those two gentlemen add was very simple conversation shake, 1:52:01.640 --> 1:52:05.280 no confusion. Their entire career working together, none and they 1:52:05.320 --> 1:52:07.160 made a fuck ton of money with each other. 1:52:07.320 --> 1:52:10.360 Oh okay, okay, let's say, all right, Frank was writing 1:52:10.360 --> 1:52:15.000 everything and Frank sang everything. Now let's say they put 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:17.720 something down on a skeleton track where Quincy just had 1:52:17.760 --> 1:52:19.920 some strings playing and then he's gonna go with the 1:52:19.960 --> 1:52:23.599 whole orchestra and a bunch of musicians after Frank leaves, 1:52:23.800 --> 1:52:26.160 we have a fifty to fifty handshake. Now, if I'm 1:52:26.200 --> 1:52:29.080 a musician that played something wrote something on the song. 1:52:29.120 --> 1:52:31.120 That's what I think a lot of people misunderstand when 1:52:31.120 --> 1:52:34.479 they see Spotify credits. Writing writing doesn't mean you wrote 1:52:34.720 --> 1:52:37.720 necessarily wrote the lyrics writing the song. Child is a 1:52:37.760 --> 1:52:39.720 writer on all my stuff, even if he didn't write 1:52:39.760 --> 1:52:42.120 a lyric at all, because he wrote music on there. 1:52:42.520 --> 1:52:45.320 I put writers on everything that wrote music. It's not 1:52:45.360 --> 1:52:48.200 just lyrics. Now, if I'm a bass player and I 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:51.640 think I deserve seven point five percent PUB on this 1:52:51.880 --> 1:52:54.519 because the baseline is leading this entire thing, I don't 1:52:54.560 --> 1:52:57.799 give a fuck what handshake Quincy Jones and Frank Sinatra 1:52:57.840 --> 1:52:59.760 have on this. Quincy, this is coming out of your 1:52:59.760 --> 1:53:04.599 fifth percent. Yeah, yeah, we're going to have a conversation here. 1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:07.960 There's not everything else is coming out of the office. 1:53:08.080 --> 1:53:11.080 Like if Frank Sinatra, and what he's saying. 1:53:10.920 --> 1:53:12.799 Is I write music on that, I deserve pub. 1:53:12.640 --> 1:53:16.880 If Frank Sinatra and Quinsy Jones split fifty to fifty, right, 1:53:16.880 --> 1:53:18.840 they each have fifty to fifty if one of them 1:53:18.880 --> 1:53:23.280 brings in some people a chorus or a band or 1:53:23.320 --> 1:53:27.320 somebody to do something on there, you don't suddenly create 1:53:27.360 --> 1:53:28.960 more money out of thin air. If that has to 1:53:28.960 --> 1:53:30.040 come out of somebody's fitting. 1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:30.240 Yeah. 1:53:30.960 --> 1:53:33.400 Yeah, So we had that conversation with Frank. You know, Frank, 1:53:33.400 --> 1:53:34.759 I had to pay it bits da da da. 1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:36.880 All right, cool, But that doesn't even come up how 1:53:36.920 --> 1:53:38.880 publishing was simple that it. That wouldn't even be a 1:53:38.880 --> 1:53:42.920 Frank conversation. That would be a Quincy conversation because how 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.639 pub is split. It is fifty percent with the actual 1:53:45.720 --> 1:53:48.080 writing of the song, and the other fifty percent is 1:53:48.640 --> 1:53:52.320 split up between whatever's happening with the music. Now, if 1:53:52.400 --> 1:53:55.559 Quincy's taking fifty percent, if I know, even if I 1:53:55.600 --> 1:53:57.640 go in to do a record, I know out the 1:53:57.640 --> 1:54:00.559 gate I'm hiring musicians, and I don't play the game 1:54:00.600 --> 1:54:03.360 where I just give you a fee and take pub 1:54:03.640 --> 1:54:05.479 I just don't play that game. I'm going to be 1:54:05.520 --> 1:54:07.559 on the right side of history. You're gonna get your 1:54:07.600 --> 1:54:09.960 pub on that. But I know going in if I'm 1:54:10.000 --> 1:54:12.200 starting a record, if me and Nick Grant start a record, 1:54:12.400 --> 1:54:14.439 I know for a fact I'm going to hire some 1:54:14.560 --> 1:54:16.600 musicians that are probably gonna be able to play what 1:54:16.640 --> 1:54:18.880 I'm trying to do in Ableton way better than I 1:54:19.000 --> 1:54:21.160 ever could, and I'm going to give them their pub 1:54:21.200 --> 1:54:23.360 on that entire thing. So if me and Nick have 1:54:23.400 --> 1:54:25.240 a fifty to fifty split, if we're doing an EP, 1:54:26.400 --> 1:54:28.960 my pub is supposed to be diluted for everyone that 1:54:29.000 --> 1:54:31.679 comes in there and writes music. And now that pub 1:54:31.680 --> 1:54:35.120 gets diluted a bit more. If it's something that I'm 1:54:35.160 --> 1:54:37.560 doing on Ableton and I want you to replay it, 1:54:38.200 --> 1:54:40.680 now I can have that argument with you, like, hey, 1:54:41.320 --> 1:54:43.960 maybe you don't get twenty percent PUB on this, Maybe 1:54:43.960 --> 1:54:46.120 that's more of a ten to fifteen because I told 1:54:46.160 --> 1:54:48.280 you exactly what I wanted to do and you played 1:54:48.280 --> 1:54:50.480 it for me. And that's where I'm saying it gets 1:54:50.520 --> 1:54:54.640 complicated because there's no real consumer the t shirts ten dollars. 1:54:54.720 --> 1:54:55.760 We're selling it for twenty. 1:54:56.120 --> 1:54:59.360 That's a debate between two human beings and the song's 1:54:59.400 --> 1:55:01.680 not even out. Yeah, and also, Maul, you don't even 1:55:01.680 --> 1:55:03.200 know what the value of the song is going to be. 1:55:03.280 --> 1:55:06.680 I'm sure Frank Sinatra and Quincy Jones didn't have any problems, 1:55:06.720 --> 1:55:09.480 but I promise you there's probably people that were in 1:55:09.560 --> 1:55:11.760 the studio with them or around them that might have 1:55:11.840 --> 1:55:14.560 had a problem with some things with our goats that 1:55:14.760 --> 1:55:17.920 we all love to death and speak hi when they 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:21.640 walk in to a studio. We've talked about our favorite 1:55:21.640 --> 1:55:24.440 writers on this pod in the last two years. They 1:55:24.440 --> 1:55:26.800 don't get the pub they deserve because when it comes 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:29.800 with this artist, they're taking fifty percent pub even if 1:55:29.800 --> 1:55:32.440 they didn't write anything. So now someone that wrote a 1:55:32.440 --> 1:55:35.800 whole song is getting two percent PUB because it's also 1:55:35.880 --> 1:55:39.880 with a producer that walks into a studios like taking 1:55:40.000 --> 1:55:43.760 if I come in here, it's fifty percent PUB. And 1:55:43.800 --> 1:55:47.640 that's what people we speak about often and we champion 1:55:47.840 --> 1:55:50.440 That happens to some of our favorite writers. 1:55:50.600 --> 1:55:52.760 Writers we've had on this podcast that. 1:55:52.760 --> 1:55:57.120 Won't speak about it because it's complicated and it's political 1:55:57.120 --> 1:55:59.080 and they're trying to keep their job. But yeah, you 1:55:59.440 --> 1:56:02.920 want to work on a list artist, shit, be happy 1:56:02.960 --> 1:56:05.400 with three percent if you wrote a whole record, which 1:56:05.480 --> 1:56:06.840 is crazy because you deserve. 1:56:06.600 --> 1:56:09.600 Fifty good point, but one point still stands. 1:56:10.000 --> 1:56:14.360 Okay, Okay, people people put bullshit. 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:17.280 People put bullshit in the mix, and no they do. 1:56:17.360 --> 1:56:19.200 And I'm what I was really getting to and we 1:56:19.200 --> 1:56:22.240 can close. This is the conversation I'm saying when if 1:56:22.720 --> 1:56:26.480 Quincy is telling someone exactly how to play something, now 1:56:26.520 --> 1:56:29.560 we have a debate on what pubuo instead, and stead 1:56:29.560 --> 1:56:31.520 if there's been times where I've had you met Mitch, 1:56:31.560 --> 1:56:34.800 my bass player before Mitch just comes in, if we 1:56:34.840 --> 1:56:37.040 have an idea men a odd and tell them there's 1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:40.400 a different version of pub there. Then if I send 1:56:40.480 --> 1:56:43.280 Mitch a record and Mitch comes up with the fucking baseline, 1:56:44.240 --> 1:56:47.120 Mitch is taken at least fifteen percent on that he 1:56:47.160 --> 1:56:49.320 wrote a whole. I didn't even tell you what to 1:56:49.360 --> 1:56:51.440 do on the baseline. I gave you a skeleton and 1:56:51.480 --> 1:56:53.640 you came with a funky ass baseline. 1:56:54.360 --> 1:56:58.120 You taking fifteen percent at minimum. 1:56:58.440 --> 1:57:02.000 So if we're confusing to the average listener who isn't 1:57:02.040 --> 1:57:04.120 into music the way that we are, and they don't 1:57:04.160 --> 1:57:06.720 know about this type what we're saying into chat GPT, 1:57:06.800 --> 1:57:08.840 and it'll make a little bit more sense because I 1:57:08.880 --> 1:57:10.720 know that this can be fed be confusing for the 1:57:10.760 --> 1:57:12.040 casual music listener. 1:57:12.120 --> 1:57:13.480 They don't know what the fuck we're talking about. 1:57:13.560 --> 1:57:19.240 It's confusing to professionals and yeah, yeah that's and what's 1:57:19.280 --> 1:57:22.480 so fucked up is why everyone hates major labels is 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:25.360 everything we're arguing about somebody else ends up owning that 1:57:25.440 --> 1:57:26.080 wasn't even there. 1:57:26.920 --> 1:57:28.720 Yeah, now you want to write everyone's pistol. 1:57:29.040 --> 1:57:32.000 Yep, bully all right, Rory? 1:57:32.080 --> 1:57:35.000 It was fun, uh you know yeah, talking to you today, 1:57:35.480 --> 1:57:37.440 debating you do we have a debate today? 1:57:37.640 --> 1:57:38.440 I think we debated. 1:57:38.600 --> 1:57:42.000 Oh we had think we had healthy discourse. 1:57:43.200 --> 1:57:45.440 If I said something out of finished, I'm sorry. My 1:57:45.560 --> 1:57:46.640 front will load anything. 1:57:46.640 --> 1:57:47.520 There's a little. 1:57:48.960 --> 1:57:51.640 I'm not not smoking weed anymore. So my front lobe 1:57:52.200 --> 1:57:54.080 is a little more clear than it's ever been in 1:57:54.120 --> 1:57:55.160 the last few years, Wory. 1:57:55.200 --> 1:57:58.600 So next episode, I will tell you about the time 1:58:00.040 --> 1:58:03.760 slammed into a telephone pole and definitely fucked up my 1:58:03.840 --> 1:58:08.280 frontal loaf. Idn't explained so much? Why didn't. Oh you 1:58:08.280 --> 1:58:09.760 should have told me this when I first met you. 1:58:10.520 --> 1:58:12.360 It's actually a very function to lead with that. 1:58:12.880 --> 1:58:14.000 Like, hey, I was in a car accident. 1:58:14.040 --> 1:58:16.520 Frontal lobe was a little because in now I'm expecting 1:58:16.520 --> 1:58:20.240 anything after that, like, oh, I get it, I understand right, fair, Yes, 1:58:20.320 --> 1:58:22.520 you gotta lead with the frontal lobe injury, Rory. 1:58:22.560 --> 1:58:28.200 Well, yeah, Josh added to the list. My frontal lobe injury. 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:32.160 Yes of our next episode. 1:58:32.880 --> 1:58:38.560 All right, well, this has been fun. Welcome to the family. 1:58:38.760 --> 1:58:40.880 The Netflix family are here. 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